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I'm not surprised. For the last 1-2 years I was in a band I used the Electro-Harmonix 44 Caliber pedal power amp with my modeler in to a Mesa 4x12. I was competing with the volume of a drummer, bass player and 2 other guitar players. The other 2 guitar players had tube amps, Engl Savage and an EVH 5150 (50 watt). I had plenty of volume and I thought the 44 Caliber was pretty clean sounding, just turned the bright switch on. Good time to be a guitar player.
I love your channel Jon. Always awesome sounds. 👍 I already bought the TKIY booster from Lichtlaerm because of your video and it replaced my TS9DX as boost in front of my JMP-1. So, I will do it also with this pedal. It's a very handy and good sounding solution for my analog preamps. Keep on rocking!
My big amps are great but lately I've been gigging with a pedal board setup just like with pedals from This Heavy Earth: boost, preamp and poweramp. It works and sounds great.
My experiment was 2x magnum 44. Rewired my 212 in stereo. Used my helix both outputs left and right No it’s not a wide stereo sound but it was very clear and very loud. Sounded extremely good
I saw someone in the comments mention using a similar pedal from This Heavy Earth Pedals. I notice that the control layout, electrical specs, and overall functions are the same as this pedal. Other than the pedal from This Heavy Earth having mini pots for the presence and depth controls. And its about $25 cheaper. I wonder if they could potentially be the same pedal with different graphics? Like how some companies will have license agreements to sell the same or similar products with their names on them. A cool comparison video showing the internals of these pedals would be very interesting. Either way, I liked your video. Your tone sounds great as always!
Holy F... this is exactly what I was looking for... a year ago. But I might still get it. I now have a Amptweaker Depthfinder (for presence + resonance knobs) into a Mooer Depth Bomb (30watt power-amp pedal). It gets fed by a Victory tube-preamp amps. I've been looking for a 'poweramp simulation' (kind of sag, presence + resonance, impedance curve) but in the analog domain. There are some preamp pedals that have something built in, but finding it standalone ahs proven difficult. I have given up on it so now I have a digital poweramp sim + IR at the end of my chain to go into a FRFR cab, and haven't used my normal guitar amp since. This might kick it back into action :). Hughes & Kettner Stompman is also on the list though (you did a video on that as well :)).
Great vids john. I'm on a budget , and leave it up to recording engineer friend to do the DAW work. I usually focus on the guitar gear for now. Thanks.
A 1x12" is loud, no matter the wattage you pump in it. Just so you know 😉.
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the most awesome thing is the the chip used to get the 60w is available for around 8 euro. i built an amp with that and if you are good at soldering, and you do not need the other features you can build amazing stuff with the TPA3118
Would be nice to hear a comparison between this power amp and the Seymour Duncan and a tube power amp(or return of a tube head). It sounded good in the mix but a little muddy on the playthrough.. then again, it could be I'm being a tube snob😂... Hearing with our eyes instead of ears.
Probably a stupid question, but what's pedals like this supposed to be connected to? Can it be connected directly to a mixer or soundcard or does it have to be connected to an amp or cabinet to get the best sounds? For exampke, could I connect it to my Roland Jazz Chorus to get better distortion with my other pedals?
What is more useful than the power rating is its dB. A dB meter is as cheap as $25.00 USD on AliExpress including shipping. If the amp can hit 95dB it will keep up with a drummer in a Rock trio. Anything but dB with a type C amp means nothing.
I understand the pedal adjusts to basically whatever power you feed it but what are the amperage requirements for 60W? 30W? Etc… I know the other John Browne ran his at 240mA and only got around 4 watts. Lichtlaerm doesn’t have this info on their site yet as far as I can tell.
@@danielringl8501 check out ‘the other John Browne’s vid on this pedal around the two minute mark he discusses power supplies and how he was running 18v at 250ma and getting around 4.5 watts
Would it be correct to assume that this pedal does NOT do the power amp OD thing but is pure clean power over the entire volume range? i noticed that there is no gain knob and that you played it on 2 the whole time so that's where my assumption comes from...I'm one of those louder(tonally) is better apologists so for me the preamp od always plays a support role for the power amp od. imho there is really NO excuse for a pedal power amp or solid state amp or whatever to not simulate the sound of a cranked power section and have a separate gain control to set it how you want...just my 2 cents... sounded good though
You're just a hack and a crazy one at that. If you want power tube distortion, get a tube amp and an attenuator. These are class D power amps, they are not meant to clip, why would you want your class D power amp to have its own distortion circuit? You make no sense and that would just be stupid to make.
Your asinine comment just tells me you understand nothing about what you just babbled about. This is a class D power amp, these are meant to be CLEAN. You're just throwing random terminology that doesn't apply to this type of product. If you want TUBE power amp distortion, you need to get it LOUD, so to deal with it, get a tube power amp, crank it and use an ATTENUATOR.
@@JohnWiku What part of SIMULATE the sound of a cranked power amp did you fail to comprehend? Quilter and EH get it, and in the SS amp world Peavey, and Marshall get it as well....even Crate got it back in the day when they were still around So no, i'm not being unreasonable at all
@@ChrisCleekI get it all, and you should buy those devices you mentioned then. The goal of this device was not what you're here babbling about, and you don't have to buy it just because it exists.
The thing is Class D doesn't "sound" like anything on it's own which makes you think it sounds bad. If you see Class D technology as a blank canvas to build a good sounding circuit on you can make devices with Class D in them sound great - it's a lot of additional circuitry and work, tho!
@@danielringl8501 No... your head is stuck in the Tube Amp paradigm. There is no law that states EQ must be on the preamp. Indeed there are other power amp pedals that include Bass Mid Treble. If I'm using analog pedals in front and they have good EQ control or I have an EQ pedal, I'm good, but with a modeler or profiler (which I'd be using), it's a pain in the ass to access those controls, and often just want a quick set of main knobs to ensure the overall tonality is quickly adjusted for all tones to adapt to the room. This was a miss if they wanted to make life easier for folks using modelers or profilers.
@@Guitarman007rename the presence control to TREBLE, rename the resonance control to BASS, you're just "missing" a mids control. Just to educate yourself a bit further, check the difference between traditional Fender or Marshall type "TMB" passive tone stacks, versus other types of tone stacks, especially the active type. I don't know what type of tone stacks they are using here, but a "2 knob" active baxandall EQ can be more powerful at shaping tone than a "3 knob" Fender/Marshall passive EQ.
@@JohnWiku Yeah, I'm aware and yes always possible, but when he was demo'ing the controls I heard more difference in the high end than the low end, which means the low end is likely very low, probably similar to the Depth control of my Fryette Power Station. While it's great to have, it's not quite the range of low end I usually need to accommodate differences in room environments, but wouldn't know till I tried, but def need that mid control to quickly adjust while I'm playing if necessary.
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My personal Thomann recommendations: thmn.to/thocf/cv37zixo68
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I'm not surprised. For the last 1-2 years I was in a band I used the Electro-Harmonix 44 Caliber pedal power amp with my modeler in to a Mesa 4x12. I was competing with the volume of a drummer, bass player and 2 other guitar players. The other 2 guitar players had tube amps, Engl Savage and an EVH 5150 (50 watt). I had plenty of volume and I thought the 44 Caliber was pretty clean sounding, just turned the bright switch on. Good time to be a guitar player.
Incredible music in every video Jon does.
Thank you!
My "high gain" setup is exactly an Aquaria into a Gehenna, so this is the most accurate pedal/amp demo I'm ever going to see! Thank you!
Holy Crow! That sounds epic as hell dude. Love it and the Valiant Jupiter is really nice. Always wanted to see one in a metal setting.
Thanks! Love the Jupe
I love your channel Jon. Always awesome sounds. 👍 I already bought the TKIY booster from Lichtlaerm because of your video and it replaced my TS9DX as boost in front of my JMP-1. So, I will do it also with this pedal. It's a very handy and good sounding solution for my analog preamps. Keep on rocking!
Love the videos, man. Content is well produced, clear, to the point, and well paced. Thanks for the effort!
Thank you!
My big amps are great but lately I've been gigging with a pedal board setup just like with pedals from This Heavy Earth: boost, preamp and poweramp. It works and sounds great.
Sounds great! That riff at the 1:11 is nasty 🔥🤘🏻
Sick company producing incredible pedals!!!! Sounds so good!!!! Will be ordering one for sure. Cheers!
So happy i invested in the cioks DC7 .. this is a game changer!
What a time to be alive as a guitar player
My wallet would argue.
My experiment was 2x magnum 44. Rewired my 212 in stereo. Used my helix both outputs left and right
No it’s not a wide stereo sound but it was very clear and very loud. Sounded extremely good
Daniel from Lichtlaerm really knows his shit! Awesome Pedal!
But man... that Valiant Jupiter in Candy Apple Red... Dream Guitar!
What the nice tone u get bro... pretty nice
This in my book is a game changer 💯👍🏻
Would love to hear it with ToneX.
Damn. Awesome riffs. As always.
Thanks!
I saw someone in the comments mention using a similar pedal from This Heavy Earth Pedals. I notice that the control layout, electrical specs, and overall functions are the same as this pedal. Other than the pedal from This Heavy Earth having mini pots for the presence and depth controls. And its about $25 cheaper. I wonder if they could potentially be the same pedal with different graphics? Like how some companies will have license agreements to sell the same or similar products with their names on them.
A cool comparison video showing the internals of these pedals would be very interesting.
Either way, I liked your video. Your tone sounds great as always!
Cool product..and mixes are sick👍🏻
So many cool toys. Not enough money
Sounds \badass/ love it with the Heavy Menace
NICE. SOUNDS GREAT
Holy F... this is exactly what I was looking for... a year ago. But I might still get it. I now have a Amptweaker Depthfinder (for presence + resonance knobs) into a Mooer Depth Bomb (30watt power-amp pedal). It gets fed by a Victory tube-preamp amps.
I've been looking for a 'poweramp simulation' (kind of sag, presence + resonance, impedance curve) but in the analog domain. There are some preamp pedals that have something built in, but finding it standalone ahs proven difficult. I have given up on it so now I have a digital poweramp sim + IR at the end of my chain to go into a FRFR cab, and haven't used my normal guitar amp since. This might kick it back into action :). Hughes & Kettner Stompman is also on the list though (you did a video on that as well :)).
Sounded great!
I really like all the Lichtlaerm pedals!
Me too!
Great vids john. I'm on a budget , and leave it up to recording engineer friend to do the DAW work. I usually focus on the guitar gear for now.
Thanks.
I’m a stereotypical bedroom guitarist, but have been thinking about getting some analog stuff, and this seems like this is what I would want.
A 1x12" is loud, no matter the wattage you pump in it. Just so you know 😉.
the most awesome thing is the the chip used to get the 60w is available for around 8 euro. i built an amp with that and if you are good at soldering, and you do not need the other features you can build amazing stuff with the TPA3118
This seems mega convenient.
I'm still hung up on that iso-cab. That thing is a game changer without a doubt.
Sounds good eh? If I use the word game changer people will get mad, but it certainly has had a profound impact on my sound and workflow! I love it :)
Nice I've been looking at seymour duncan powerstage but this looks like a good option too
I played last saturday with my band. I used a harley benton gpa100 through a beringer 412. I sounded great.
When you said Tony, because Iron Man, my first thought was Iommi, the drop C# was just a coincidence😂
🔥 Another good one
Would be nice to hear a comparison between this power amp and the Seymour Duncan and a tube power amp(or return of a tube head).
It sounded good in the mix but a little muddy on the playthrough.. then again, it could be I'm being a tube snob😂... Hearing with our eyes instead of ears.
You should definitely check out the sE Electronic V7x as a speaker microphone!
agreed really good
That is pretty sweet
Wow, Daniel is the MF'n man 🤘
Please run HX Stomp into this into iso cab
Clanky bass tone !!
Can you do a video , just playing through a quality high end gain amp / with a few effects in a live rig demo , with no DAW ?
Did you try it with a bass setup?
Awesome video as always BTW 👍 thx!
I haven't tried it with a bass, no
Probably a stupid question, but what's pedals like this supposed to be connected to? Can it be connected directly to a mixer or soundcard or does it have to be connected to an amp or cabinet to get the best sounds? For exampke, could I connect it to my Roland Jazz Chorus to get better distortion with my other pedals?
You should connect this to a guitar speaker cab
Demo song: This "clicky" attack comes from bass guitar? Regards!
What is more useful than the power rating is its dB. A dB meter is as cheap as $25.00 USD on AliExpress including shipping. If the amp can hit 95dB it will keep up with a drummer in a Rock trio. Anything but dB with a type C amp means nothing.
Ive been following you for a while, and the the guitar never sounded as good as it does in this video.
Thank you! Imagine how good this pedal is!
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I understand the pedal adjusts to basically whatever power you feed it but what are the amperage requirements for 60W? 30W? Etc… I know the other John Browne ran his at 240mA and only got around 4 watts. Lichtlaerm doesn’t have this info on their site yet as far as I can tell.
Where did you get that info in the last part? John literally said the opposite!
It'll draw around 2A at 24V :)
@@danielringl8501 check out ‘the other John Browne’s vid on this pedal around the two minute mark he discusses power supplies and how he was running 18v at 250ma and getting around 4.5 watts
Poweramp in a pedal? That is sick.
Hell yeah man!
Not very new, there are a few of them, like the EHX Magnum, the Harley Benton GPA 100...
But this one is interesting
How do you think it would pair with a quad cortex?
Are you reviewing ares from hynotone?
Sounds huge but is it loud enough with heavy hitter drummer and full band without house monitors
Yeah, it's loud! Be sure to use a power supply that can handle the wattage though
@SonicDriveStudio cool thank you great video as usual 👍🏼
Do you think it would be loud enough to rehearse with a drummer using it with a preamp pedal and directly into a 4x12?
@LB-pp7pu yes, but be sure to use a 24v power supply for maximum headroom
@@SonicDriveStudio Ok, thanks!
No it’s still solid state it’s not enough for Metal .
@redeyeify have you tried it?
Will be reviewing hynotone ares?😘
Yes
is it suitable and powerful enough for bass ?
Only at low volumes, so for home practice and stuff. Low end eats a lot of headroom
What madness is this?!?!
Madness I tell you! Madness!
Would it be correct to assume that this pedal does NOT do the power amp OD thing but is pure clean power over the entire volume range? i noticed that there is no gain knob and that you played it on 2 the whole time so that's where my assumption comes from...I'm one of those louder(tonally) is better apologists so for me the preamp od always plays a support role for the power amp od. imho there is really NO excuse for a pedal power amp or solid state amp or whatever to not simulate the sound of a cranked power section and have a separate gain control to set it how you want...just my 2 cents... sounded good though
You're just a hack and a crazy one at that.
If you want power tube distortion, get a tube amp and an attenuator.
These are class D power amps, they are not meant to clip, why would you want your class D power amp to have its own distortion circuit? You make no sense and that would just be stupid to make.
Your asinine comment just tells me you understand nothing about what you just babbled about.
This is a class D power amp, these are meant to be CLEAN.
You're just throwing random terminology that doesn't apply to this type of product.
If you want TUBE power amp distortion, you need to get it LOUD, so to deal with it, get a tube power amp, crank it and use an ATTENUATOR.
@@JohnWiku What part of SIMULATE the sound of a cranked power amp did you fail to comprehend? Quilter and EH get it, and in the SS amp world Peavey, and Marshall get it as well....even Crate got it back in the day when they were still around So no, i'm not being unreasonable at all
@@ChrisCleekI get it all, and you should buy those devices you mentioned then.
The goal of this device was not what you're here babbling about, and you don't have to buy it just because it exists.
@@JohnWiku I don't understand why you're getting so butthurt about it but whatever i said what i said, and i stand by it. deal with it.
So would you say class D is finally starting to sound good?
Well as you can hear, this one sounds really good!
The thing is Class D doesn't "sound" like anything on it's own which makes you think it sounds bad. If you see Class D technology as a blank canvas to build a good sounding circuit on you can make devices with Class D in them sound great - it's a lot of additional circuitry and work, tho!
That presence knob of the Pandora is weird. 95% of it´s possible positions it sounds dull and on the last 5% it opens up. I don´t like....
ah damn if only it has Bass, Mid, Treble EQ on it... oh well... pass.
The preamp and pedals that you're going to run into it will probably have those controls. Presence and depth are very powerful though
That would be a full amp, tho: Bass, Mid and Treble are part of the preamp circuit, not the power amp. And this is.... well... a power amp!
@@danielringl8501 No... your head is stuck in the Tube Amp paradigm. There is no law that states EQ must be on the preamp. Indeed there are other power amp pedals that include Bass Mid Treble.
If I'm using analog pedals in front and they have good EQ control or I have an EQ pedal, I'm good, but with a modeler or profiler (which I'd be using), it's a pain in the ass to access those controls, and often just want a quick set of main knobs to ensure the overall tonality is quickly adjusted for all tones to adapt to the room. This was a miss if they wanted to make life easier for folks using modelers or profilers.
@@Guitarman007rename the presence control to TREBLE, rename the resonance control to BASS, you're just "missing" a mids control.
Just to educate yourself a bit further, check the difference between traditional Fender or Marshall type "TMB" passive tone stacks, versus other types of tone stacks, especially the active type.
I don't know what type of tone stacks they are using here, but a "2 knob" active baxandall EQ can be more powerful at shaping tone than a "3 knob" Fender/Marshall passive EQ.
@@JohnWiku Yeah, I'm aware and yes always possible, but when he was demo'ing the controls I heard more difference in the high end than the low end, which means the low end is likely very low, probably similar to the Depth control of my Fryette Power Station. While it's great to have, it's not quite the range of low end I usually need to accommodate differences in room environments, but wouldn't know till I tried, but def need that mid control to quickly adjust while I'm playing if necessary.