I wouldn't discount the fish stocking hypothesis either. Before this stuff became regulated people had an understandable fascination with introducing fish to different bodies of waters for the hell of it.
My ex's father did this to a drainage pond once. Unfortunately it was only a temporary one. So the first time I went to her home, I came up to the sight of thousands of small dead and dying fish on the road. Turns out they had drained the pond earlier that day.
So I volunteer at a nature sanctuary that has several artificial ponds on its grounds (former farm). Neither are connected to a water source and are fed only by rain, so when fish appeared in the larger one, we were all confused. They're small, like minnows, and we're not sure what species they are, but they seem to have settled in well enough and are feeding the herons still. Our guess has been that either eggs or a pregnant female hitched a ride into the pond on the feathers of a waterfowl, but I'll bring this idea up to the staff, too! We'll probably never know for sure, but it's a cool mystery to share with guests.
I think fish eggs can also lay dormant in places until the time is right ... This is based on how some animals can do this as well , and i think it makes sense for this to be a whidespread caracteristic
@TristanMorrow Possibly. We haven't gotten any in hand to confirm species yet, only sighted birds picking them out of the water and seen water disturbances indicative of fish. I'm actually interested in capturing one to identify what we have on our hands, but that might be difficult. They stay away from the spaces I can access the water without disrupting the environment too much, and with it being a nature sanctuary, tromping in there willy nilly is out of the question. One day...
@davidegaruti2582 Oh yeah, definitely. Issue with that is that this pond has NEVER been stocked. It was created as a water source for livestock in the 1900s, and we have no evidence of stocking having taken place. Of course, there's always the chance someone just wasn't taking notes that day, but records are pretty thorough from my understanding.
In the UK, within the lake district, which are all ancient glacial lakes from the ice age, I believe there is at least a handful of endemic unique fish species only found in one lake!
Some fish have evolved sticky eggs that are known to stick to the exterior of birds as well. A crane or other water-treading bird may stand in a spawning ground, get sticky eggs to attach, and those eggs then hatch in another body of water while the sticky mucus protects the egg from drying out.
I had a similar experience. I was hiking in the Shenandoah mountains on a trail that followed a stream/waterfall and in one of the small pools near the top of the mountain I saw probably a dozen trout. What amazed me most wasn't necessarily how they got there, but the fact that such a tiny pool was able to support so many fish that were all at least 6 inches long.
Another way you missed is sometimes rain (and even tornadoes) picked up some fish from a body of water and dumped it somewhere else, at least some of them should survive when hit the ground. This happened not long time ago in Texas.
I think there's a non-zero chance of being deposited by a large bird, like an Eagle. Eagle catches its prey, flys back to its nest, but gets interrupted by another Eagle, and drops it into the upper lake. It's a rare occurrence, but if the lake is around for 10,000+ years, there's a lot of time for that to happen, and you only need two.
@@ryancormack6934 yeah that's definitely a better chance than the fish actually surviving and finding a mate that also had to get there someway. But if it's just about the transport of eggs, then I think the mechanism in the video is better. Aquatic birds eat fish eggs, some of them only relief themselves after landing again, and some percentage of fish eggs may survive. The transport of multiple eggs this way is entirely plausible, especially with for example social or outright migratory bird species that may take similar routes in great numbers.
I wasn't sure if you were gonna mention being dropped by birds, like, as a grown adult fish still alive, not as egg poop. I currently live by the water, and you'd be surprised how often birds will lose their catches. Had a fish in the yard the other day x'D It's not often, but it happens, haha.
I've come across a fish just straight up laying on the ground with some feathers around. Odd cases like this CAN happen, but you would need more than one fish at roughly the same time for them to even have a chance to copulate.
In Utah, the Division of Wildlife Resources actively stocks Rainbow and Brook trout in some lakes, mainly reservoirs. They dont do it as much as they used to to protect the native Cut Throat Trout. Many remote mountain lakes in Utah still have legacy trout from when stocking was more widespread in the 1950s-1980s. I like the idea of ducks ubering eggs 😅 that may account for some.
For the Alps, this is not correct. Most fish in these kinds of lakes are artificially put there by humans. But not awesomely cool by plane, just with cars and buckets.
My parents made a pond when they build their house. They put a few different fish in there like perch and catfish but then people started fishing out crappies. Nobody put them in there, I'm assuming this is what happened because they get lots of ducks and geese.
My favorite explanation for panspermia (life from space) is that at one point between inflation at the beginning of our universe and it cooling down to now, there was a time when the universe was on average a nice room temperature or any temperature depending on the time. It could have originated in so many places, but only surviving until today in a few (like here) but could have traveled here from somewhere else originally.
I remamber someone telling me as a kid when I asked, that the fish eggs sometimes get stuck to birds legs and that's how it happens. Is that compleatly not true?
@MinuteEarth might just be a theory Kind of like how monkeys made it to south america....they said nature made rafts I aint never seen a 100 monkeys on a branch floating lol
I had the same experience in the rockies. Way up a mountain in a teeny tiny stream there was a large trout in a small pool! How on earth did it get there!? Now I know!
I wouldn't discount the overflow connection theory either. You can find fish in the skimpiest of streams. If one rainy seaon connects the lowest lake to the mid elevation lake, trout can get a foothold. Then maybe 1000 years later another rainy overflow event occurs connecting the mid lake to the high lake. The connection can happen one lake at a time over thousands of years.
I heard that fish, amphibians and other water critters get caught between the feathers of water loving birds and when these birds go from a old lake to a new empty one they most likely introduce water Flora and Fauna and create new ecosystems :3
does option 4 reasonably exist: that the mountain grew underneath the lake. not in this particular case per se, but couldn't mountains in general grow in areas where there are lakes and then carry the lakes up as they grow?
Hurricanes and Tornadoes can also transport all sorts of aquatic species dozens of miles. Even Pliny the Elder noted fish and frogs "raining from the sky" in his Historia Naturalis, which typically happens when waterspouts suck up creatures in lakes and rivers,.
by jove! this is really incredible, "shit in a lake" is a bit yucky to think about! I knew it was said that the stork brought the "baby deliveries" but, not like this! 2:20 It's called panspermia, the "alien insemination" hypothesis, in the 2001 movie "Evolution": A meteorite falls in Arizona creating an "alien insemination/invasion".
@@MinuteEarth Maybe "alien insemination" didn't work on Earth, but who knows, a similar "delivery" to that isolated lake, on some alien world right now!
I have always been fascinated by the thought of "how in the heck do random isolated bodies of water get fish in them..?" I guess we will never know. It's kind of on the same level as "how did the universe begin..?" Lol
I remember watching 'I did a thing', and he was wondering how fish got into his pond. Someone in the comments said the same thing. Bird probably pooped minnow eggs into it.
...LMAO Oh my. That's.. Interesting. I know birds poop plant seeds everywhere, but I didn't know they also pooped FISH seeds everywhere. Also, those globes are beauuutiful! 🤩
Abiogenesis is increasingly difficult to stomach. Mostly because they Keep Losing time for it to Happen on the Planet. The current Fossil Record, has been pushed back to within... i wanna say something like 800,000,000 years or so? ...of the time where Earth was first theoretically stable enough to support such a process. Basically, when Earth cooled enough after the Moon Formation. .... Alternative suggestion: Hawk Drop Fish? *Fish Eggs Caught in Wet Feathers/Fur?* tornado fish release?
I am from the rockies and it is way way more probable a bird of prey just dropped a fish it had caught vs the duck. That is what they taught us in school.
I mean I hear tales of herons and other fish-eating birds just accidentally let loose and their fish just dropped onto the ground, maybe one got too slippery and slipped from a bird’s claw to the lake
There's some evidence that certain eggs (and even fish themselves) can survive dry patches and then re-animate once water returns. In this case, we're pretty certain that the lake was carved out by a glacier and was never part of a river system
Can't it be lake that wasn't always isolated? I don't know how old this species is, but geography changes all the time throughout history. Could it once have had river access? or could the land have risen slowly overtime (we're talking a very longtime in that case)? ***I'm by no means an expert and I am basically just doing the equivalent of thinking out loud on the internet.***
Was there more than one fish? Poop survival rate is very low, the location is remote, and a population requires a minimum of 2 to begin. If there was a population, I'd think the poop hypothesis unlikely.
Comment 20 here, those fish got picked up by wind and weather and moved and rained in - the most common and obvious methode, that also obviously managed to bring in 2 or more (a breeding pair) Damm int is the worlds dumb stat.
I wouldn't discount the fish stocking hypothesis either. Before this stuff became regulated people had an understandable fascination with introducing fish to different bodies of waters for the hell of it.
My ex's father did this to a drainage pond once. Unfortunately it was only a temporary one. So the first time I went to her home, I came up to the sight of thousands of small dead and dying fish on the road. Turns out they had drained the pond earlier that day.
people do it all the time with artificial lakes here, both so people can fish in it, but also to create a sustainable eco system.
@danilooliveira6580 where is 'here'?
@ Brazil
My manager's son, who really really likes to fish, stocked a pond on a nearby university so he could have his own backyard fishing spot.
So I volunteer at a nature sanctuary that has several artificial ponds on its grounds (former farm). Neither are connected to a water source and are fed only by rain, so when fish appeared in the larger one, we were all confused. They're small, like minnows, and we're not sure what species they are, but they seem to have settled in well enough and are feeding the herons still.
Our guess has been that either eggs or a pregnant female hitched a ride into the pond on the feathers of a waterfowl, but I'll bring this idea up to the staff, too! We'll probably never know for sure, but it's a cool mystery to share with guests.
It's a _Gambusia affinis_ perhaps?
I think fish eggs can also lay dormant in places until the time is right ...
This is based on how some animals can do this as well , and i think it makes sense for this to be a whidespread caracteristic
@TristanMorrow Possibly. We haven't gotten any in hand to confirm species yet, only sighted birds picking them out of the water and seen water disturbances indicative of fish. I'm actually interested in capturing one to identify what we have on our hands, but that might be difficult. They stay away from the spaces I can access the water without disrupting the environment too much, and with it being a nature sanctuary, tromping in there willy nilly is out of the question. One day...
@davidegaruti2582 Oh yeah, definitely. Issue with that is that this pond has NEVER been stocked. It was created as a water source for livestock in the 1900s, and we have no evidence of stocking having taken place. Of course, there's always the chance someone just wasn't taking notes that day, but records are pretty thorough from my understanding.
In the UK, within the lake district, which are all ancient glacial lakes from the ice age, I believe there is at least a handful of endemic unique fish species only found in one lake!
a minute earth video sponsored by a company that sells minute earths? that's just pure comedy gold right there
hang on a minute...
@@MinuteEarth how on earth.....
Some fish have evolved sticky eggs that are known to stick to the exterior of birds as well. A crane or other water-treading bird may stand in a spawning ground, get sticky eggs to attach, and those eggs then hatch in another body of water while the sticky mucus protects the egg from drying out.
Stocked lake. It can even be done on foot with backpacks. Remote lakes that don't get fished often don't need to be regularly topped up.
Nature finds a way
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Life.... finds a way
Na na naah naah nah Nana nah nah nah nah (jurassic noises)
Facts.😅😅😅😅😅
I had a similar experience. I was hiking in the Shenandoah mountains on a trail that followed a stream/waterfall and in one of the small pools near the top of the mountain I saw probably a dozen trout. What amazed me most wasn't necessarily how they got there, but the fact that such a tiny pool was able to support so many fish that were all at least 6 inches long.
probably cannibalising the smaller ones
Why did the fish climb the mountain?
This is not a joke, there is no punchline. I’m wondering.
Q: Why did the fish climb the mountain?
A: "Because it's there" -sir Edmund Gillory
This sounds like a poorly written AI attempt at comedy. And I'm here for it
Well there’s a type of fish that climbs up waterfalls
And now I'm wondering if there is a punchline and you just didn't figure out yet
To get to the other tide
Another way you missed is sometimes rain (and even tornadoes) picked up some fish from a body of water and dumped it somewhere else, at least some of them should survive when hit the ground. This happened not long time ago in Texas.
Rain doesn't pick up fish. Tornadoes, sure, but not rain.
@@SgtSupaman Yea you got it
2:07 shows a tornado
I think there's a non-zero chance of being deposited by a large bird, like an Eagle.
Eagle catches its prey, flys back to its nest, but gets interrupted by another Eagle, and drops it into the upper lake.
It's a rare occurrence, but if the lake is around for 10,000+ years, there's a lot of time for that to happen, and you only need two.
Or a fish with a belly full of eggs
That might be a better theory, because one fish egg (usually) can't breed.
You only need two...but two at roughly the same time, not over the 10,000 years. The duck theory makes more sense I think
Also, you need more than 2 to make a stable population
@@ryancormack6934 yeah that's definitely a better chance than the fish actually surviving and finding a mate that also had to get there someway.
But if it's just about the transport of eggs, then I think the mechanism in the video is better. Aquatic birds eat fish eggs, some of them only relief themselves after landing again, and some percentage of fish eggs may survive. The transport of multiple eggs this way is entirely plausible, especially with for example social or outright migratory bird species that may take similar routes in great numbers.
I like how Team Aqua's Archie was subtly used at 1:21
Subtle as a brick. So love the references though.
How did the fish get here? Poo-lease.
i can tell this comment in gonna get popular
It'll hang with the right cohorts
it'll be good at sports
I wasn't sure if you were gonna mention being dropped by birds, like, as a grown adult fish still alive, not as egg poop. I currently live by the water, and you'd be surprised how often birds will lose their catches. Had a fish in the yard the other day x'D It's not often, but it happens, haha.
I've come across a fish just straight up laying on the ground with some feathers around. Odd cases like this CAN happen, but you would need more than one fish at roughly the same time for them to even have a chance to copulate.
Was that a notification sound at 1:49?
shhhhhhh
@@MinuteEarthtoo late, we know 😂
😂 Ding,
Learn something new every day. Thank you!
In Utah, the Division of Wildlife Resources actively stocks Rainbow and Brook trout in some lakes, mainly reservoirs. They dont do it as much as they used to to protect the native Cut Throat Trout. Many remote mountain lakes in Utah still have legacy trout from when stocking was more widespread in the 1950s-1980s. I like the idea of ducks ubering eggs 😅 that may account for some.
So cool - thanks for sharing
For the Alps, this is not correct. Most fish in these kinds of lakes are artificially put there by humans. But not awesomely cool by plane, just with cars and buckets.
What do you mean it isn't correct? The video even went over artificially transported fish.
there is a similar lake in mount rinjani (indonesia). Its sulfur lake in top of mountain but the fish live overpopulated there.
My parents made a pond when they build their house. They put a few different fish in there like perch and catfish but then people started fishing out crappies. Nobody put them in there, I'm assuming this is what happened because they get lots of ducks and geese.
My favorite explanation for panspermia (life from space) is that at one point between inflation at the beginning of our universe and it cooling down to now, there was a time when the universe was on average a nice room temperature or any temperature depending on the time. It could have originated in so many places, but only surviving until today in a few (like here) but could have traveled here from somewhere else originally.
I remamber someone telling me as a kid when I asked, that the fish eggs sometimes get stuck to birds legs and that's how it happens.
Is that compleatly not true?
That's what I learned too! There's no evidence it's true despite a bunch of research into it - David
@MinuteEarth might just be a theory
Kind of like how monkeys made it to south america....they said nature made rafts
I aint never seen a 100 monkeys on a branch floating lol
What's option number 'Fishnado'?
Wow those mova globes are cool. Reminds me of when those levitating globes were all the rage like a decade ago
My favorite minute earth ever!
I had the same experience in the rockies. Way up a mountain in a teeny tiny stream there was a large trout in a small pool! How on earth did it get there!? Now I know!
34 seconds?!?!? WOW
I’ve always wondered about this
1:01 damn those fish are having the time of their lifes
A common way has to do with birds, but where a bird has caught a fish, and then drops it on its way to a nest or eating location.
I wouldn't discount the overflow connection theory either. You can find fish in the skimpiest of streams. If one rainy seaon connects the lowest lake to the mid elevation lake, trout can get a foothold. Then maybe 1000 years later another rainy overflow event occurs connecting the mid lake to the high lake.
The connection can happen one lake at a time over thousands of years.
That's cool.
I heard that fish, amphibians and other water critters get caught between the feathers of water loving birds and when these birds go from a old lake to a new empty one they most likely introduce water Flora and Fauna and create new ecosystems :3
does option 4 reasonably exist: that the mountain grew underneath the lake. not in this particular case per se, but couldn't mountains in general grow in areas where there are lakes and then carry the lakes up as they grow?
I always wondered that and thankfully i don't have to know
Hurricanes and Tornadoes can also transport all sorts of aquatic species dozens of miles. Even Pliny the Elder noted fish and frogs "raining from the sky" in his Historia Naturalis, which typically happens when waterspouts suck up creatures in lakes and rivers,.
Yeah, it rains tadpoles in louisiana and other ares quite often.
I'm getting a MOVA! ❤
0:26 Please don't show me that cursed thing in the top left corner, again!
by jove! this is really incredible, "shit in a lake" is a bit yucky to think about!
I knew it was said that the stork brought the "baby deliveries" but, not like this!
2:20 It's called panspermia, the "alien insemination" hypothesis, in the 2001 movie "Evolution": A meteorite falls in Arizona creating an "alien insemination/invasion".
"Panspermia" is quite the term
@@MinuteEarth Maybe "alien insemination" didn't work on Earth, but who knows, a similar "delivery" to that isolated lake, on some alien world right now!
Crypt lake on the Alberta/USA border? I was surprised to see a ton of trout there, I wish I had brought my fly rod and got a permit.
"interlachen ducky excretion" might be my new favorite pun from this channel
1:20 what is Archie doing there?
Loved the pokemon reference
Interesting
*Me:* Nikola, why does this globe spin?
*Tesla:* .*lifts one eyebrow and gives me a nod*
I always wondered
Baby shart... doo doo doo doo do doo baby shart
1:20 team aqua!!!!
Fish cannon
I have always been fascinated by the thought of "how in the heck do random isolated bodies of water get fish in them..?" I guess we will never know. It's kind of on the same level as "how did the universe begin..?" Lol
I remember watching 'I did a thing', and he was wondering how fish got into his pond. Someone in the comments said the same thing.
Bird probably pooped minnow eggs into it.
1:24 lol, Team Aqua. That game is 23 years old from 2002. wow
Don't tell me that :(
...LMAO Oh my. That's.. Interesting. I know birds poop plant seeds everywhere, but I didn't know they also pooped FISH seeds everywhere. Also, those globes are beauuutiful! 🤩
Abiogenesis is increasingly difficult to stomach.
Mostly because they Keep Losing time for it to Happen on the Planet.
The current Fossil Record, has been pushed back to within... i wanna say something like 800,000,000 years or so? ...of the time where Earth was first theoretically stable enough to support such a process.
Basically, when Earth cooled enough after the Moon Formation.
....
Alternative suggestion: Hawk Drop Fish? *Fish Eggs Caught in Wet Feathers/Fur?* tornado fish release?
How is a vegetable raft anything like a chunk of land
Human: Fish, how did you get here?
Fish: I got pooped from here.
Human: ...
I put them there of course
We now have a minute earth from minute earth.
"about 2 out of every 1000 eggs survive the duck's digestive tract."
Fish: "so you're telling me there's a chance."
Could it be possible that the trout lived in the water before it was a lake and got isolated when the rest of the water receded?
I would love to buy one of those globes to support you and they look so cool. But unfortunately they are way too expensive for my budget 😢
I always pictured that some fish eggs just got caught up in some feathers or fur or something and then taken to another water body
I am from the rockies and it is way way more probable a bird of prey just dropped a fish it had caught vs the duck. That is what they taught us in school.
I wasn't ready for the duck poop transport.
yooooo minuteearth a minute ago????
I’ve asked myself the very same question
Wow
It's interesting how we can get used to unusual things quickly. Seeing a non-stick-figure person all of a sudden was almost a jump scare, heh.
I mean I hear tales of herons and other fish-eating birds just accidentally let loose and their fish just dropped onto the ground, maybe one got too slippery and slipped from a bird’s claw to the lake
When I was a teenager my mother stopped me from introducing snakes I found in the mountain to the Metropolitan Park of Santiago.
I put it there. It's my hobby
Actually they just spontaneous generationed. Nerd.
Wouldn't it be possible that the
lake once was part of a river that changed curce over the centuries?
There's some evidence that certain eggs (and even fish themselves) can survive dry patches and then re-animate once water returns. In this case, we're pretty certain that the lake was carved out by a glacier and was never part of a river system
Can't it be lake that wasn't always isolated?
I don't know how old this species is, but geography changes all the time throughout history. Could it once have had river access? or could the land have risen slowly overtime (we're talking a very longtime in that case)?
***I'm by no means an expert and I am basically just doing the equivalent of thinking out loud on the internet.***
You also got the other bird method... caught and then it got free and fell in.
TIL fish seeds are distributed by birds just like many other plants
It is just "frog rain", but with fish
Bird feet and feathers are the most common way.
Another hypothesis is that fish eggs may stick to the legs of water birds.
But doesn't it mean that it had to happen at least twice in a lifespan of one fish in order for it to reproduce?
Could fish eggs have been picked up by a storm and blown into the lake?
She's as cute as her voice!
at first, i thought santa claus bring the fish😂
Or a fish egg stuck to the duck's feathers then dropped off in a new lake.
Was there more than one fish?
Poop survival rate is very low, the location is remote, and a population requires a minimum of 2 to begin. If there was a population, I'd think the poop hypothesis unlikely.
Minute earth: advocating for "hour" Earth a bit at a time 😊
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same way you got there, he climbed
wait... OH SHI...!
so an egg patch got eaten, some of those survived, got pooped out in that EXACT lake, and got the chance to reproduce
Or they were just always there. When the mountains formed they got separated from the great ocean.
When your eggs are so tough you can use birds to spread them like pollen
Wow. So I guess plants are not the only species that get animals to poop out their offspring into new locations.
Comment 20 here, those fish got picked up by wind and weather and moved and rained in - the most common and obvious methode, that also obviously managed to bring in 2 or more (a breeding pair)
Damm int is the worlds dumb stat.
Sharknado
Who knew babies brought down by birds are true
Birds. Brids bring them there.
I always guessed birds picked them up and flew to their nests to eat them but then accidentally dropped them.
The volume on this video is obnoxiously loud.