Marty Friedman INSULTED by Megadeth's lowball offer to reunite

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  • @christian.xavier.villagran
    @christian.xavier.villagran 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    What no warning? 😢 no second chance?

    • @wallofrock6725
      @wallofrock6725 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Dave 🤣

    • @judas_saves
      @judas_saves 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂​@@wallofrock6725

  • @Thedesertguy75
    @Thedesertguy75 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Let's just be grateful that Rust in Peace exists, no need to revisit that, those records with that lineup are iconic

  • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
    @skaldlouiscyphre2453 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Good for Marty standing his ground. Dave is a narcissist.

    • @theressomelovelyfilthdownh4329
      @theressomelovelyfilthdownh4329 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Also standing by his fellow band members, and not ditching them to become another jobber in Megadeath. I like Megadeath, but Dave knows Marty is worth something. Marty is happy doing his own thing and earning a decent living. You'd think Dave was being charitable by offering this great chance to be in a proper band again. Now he's the only remaining member of Megadeath.

    • @steve_pooch
      @steve_pooch 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Dave absolutely definitely is a narcissist. One of my good friends worked for him. Many times I'd play Metallica riffs on Dave's personal stage guitars before the show.....(*have a great show bud*)

  • @neutronstar7803
    @neutronstar7803 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Dave is greedy as fuck. Would Rust in peace, Countdown, Youtheunasia have sounded the same way without Nick and Marty ? absolutely not. Mustaine has always undeestimated the contributions of the other members to Megadeth sucess.

    • @panamajack5972
      @panamajack5972 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Even Ellefson deserves credit.

  • @bacongl
    @bacongl 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Megadeth is the Dave Mustaine band. Bands that are run by one dude are horrendous for creativity. Basically you are just a trained monkey. It's Dave's way or the highway. Nobody wants to deal with that unless it pays very well. If it doesn't then it is not worth it. A waste of time and effort. Butting heads is inevitable.

  • @jazzcat1056
    @jazzcat1056 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Seems like Dave always has to get his way.

    • @a_planet_on_fire
      @a_planet_on_fire 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Have you seen DM on Steve-O's channel? Something (new) is wrong with him.

    • @rodbelding9523
      @rodbelding9523 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yeah I know it's been said to death at this point, but it's Megadave, not Megadeth.

    • @jazzcat1056
      @jazzcat1056 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ no. Wonderful what it is.

    • @DemonDethchase
      @DemonDethchase 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@rodbelding9523 and The Hired Guns
      "Come join me, as I live dwell in the shadow of Metallica by my own choosing!"
      When you're already super successful on your own, I would have to say, no thanks.

    • @pakoutac
      @pakoutac 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@a_planet_on_fireStevo was horrible dude, did we watch the same interview?

  • @bdr113080
    @bdr113080 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I think the one thing that stopping Megadeth from being a band that could have a really good epic run that people would take notice of is the fact that it just feels like Dave Mustanie’s solo project and it has felt like that for sometime now.
    In the thing is Dave and Megadeth is the only band who knows that you can never have the original lineup that was on that first record and we don’t care because that’s not even what we call the classic lineup. No other band in history has that chance to wear it’s not even the first or second lineup that was considered a classic. It’s sad that Nick is no longer alive because I think today if I woke up and was on my phone and saw that that classic 90s lineup was back together in the studio recording an album I would get excited.
    I think this is why it might hurt their chances of getting in the rock ‘n’ roll Hall of Fame. Who do you induct? They’ve had 33 members in the band.
    Honestly, even if they kept their drummer, whoever it is right now if they were somehow able to bring Marty and the other Dave back, I think people would accept that. I get it’s Dave Zego, but even with Dave’s ego it should be something that if he actually thought about it like getting those two guys back in the band in announcing that you have the classic lineup or as close as you can get to it back together in the studio That would probably be the most successful metal album of the year .
    And before anyone makes a big deal out of Dave E. , that was the stupidest scandal in most most pointless scandal I had ever seen. So let me get this straight a rockstar Ws in a sexual relationship with a girl in her 20s? Oh no, he’s the only one I’m sure no other rockstar over the age of 45 has done this before. Honestly he was thrown out of the band. I thought that was so lame because it was clear that Dave Mustaine just wanted him gone and he was just going to use that excuse. I’m sure before he became a born Christian. He himself had done the same same thing probably 40 times.

    • @pauln6803
      @pauln6803 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dave Ellefson is something of a hypocrite, being a pastor and undoubtedly preaching monogamy and Christian values, whilst wanking over a girl's tits online.
      But still, way more was made of it with unfounded accusations being spread.
      I can also imagine crowds getting rowdy at shows, which I can't see Dave Mustaine and his ego taking with good humour.
      Ultimately I suspect Mustaine wanting a reason to fire Ellefson and replace him with yet another soon to be ex-member who would accept a lot less money in return for the exposure recording and touring with Megadeth would (or so they might think) bring.

  • @StockA4
    @StockA4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That backstage footage of the Budokan show in 2023 was available if you bought the livestream. I know the concert itself is on YT, but I've yet to see any backstage stuff outside the night of the actual show.

    • @realloganshow
      @realloganshow  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Someone must have uploaded the entire livestream then, and that's how I saw it. Thanks for this!

  • @eduardocoutinho4171
    @eduardocoutinho4171 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Dave must be tired doing this in his sixties. He is a tough guy to handle but he must know what he is doing because Megadeth is one of the biggest names in metal

    • @evangibeau4489
      @evangibeau4489 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The reason he’s in all these situations is because he’s so hard to handle - it’s why Megadeth has had consistent lineup changes and why he’s still dealing with this crap in his 60s. I love his work but he’s an egomaniac, and at the end of the day he truly feels that he is the epitome of Megadeth. It was never a group project, and that caused Mustaine to lose some insanely talented musicians, most notably Chris Poland and Friedman. I can’t sympathize with Mustaine when all the issues the band has had lead directly back to him

    • @eduardocoutinho4171
      @eduardocoutinho4171 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @evangibeau4489 yes i agree with you, he never gave the other guys credit, saying that he "told" marty what to do in the RIP solos. Like dude, Marty is leagues above you in soloing, also if you know that much why dont do It yourself?

    • @evangibeau4489
      @evangibeau4489 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @ He could do it himself, but he couldn’t write it. Dave took this aspect for granted in many of his guitarists. Marty was able to play off of Dave beautifully. Good musicians are hard to come by, Dave is lucky he’s had so many in his band throughout the years.

  • @guilty-of-being-right
    @guilty-of-being-right 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm going to see Marty play in Las Vegas , in late January 2025, at Vamps .

  • @zemlidrakona2915
    @zemlidrakona2915 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Megadeth has always been Dave Mustaine and friends. That's just the way it is, since he's always been the most talented guy in the band.

    • @judas_saves
      @judas_saves 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Most tallented? No... Talented - yes, but not the 'most'

    • @DrunkTranquility
      @DrunkTranquility 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Dave and his employees

    • @zemlidrakona2915
      @zemlidrakona2915 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@judas_saves Mustaine is BY FAR the most talented, unless all you are considering is guitar prowess. Every 2nd guitarist Megadeth has ever had is likely technically better than Mustaine. None of them can touch his songwriting however, which is way more important.

    • @judas_saves
      @judas_saves 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@zemlidrakona2915 Agree to disagree. I never said his arrangements and writing are bad - far from it! His IQ is pretty high, but his EQ... He would be even better if he'd let others in on the writing, like the Marty era, which is proven to be the best Megadeth era.

    • @zemlidrakona2915
      @zemlidrakona2915 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@judas_saves And what has Friendman done on his own? While Friedman is plenty good, he would just be one a dozens of other shredders if he hadn't played for Megadeth, and now he just produces music for his hardcore fans (most of which he wouldn't even have without Megadeth).

  • @richardmartino1969
    @richardmartino1969 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I saw megadeth in Boston 2017 with Chris Adler playing the drums
    It will always be in my top 5 concerts of all time🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @GBCR
    @GBCR วันที่ผ่านมา

    When Marty rejoined for a handful of shows in Japan a little while ago I said immediately he'd regret it and (from his own perspective) he shouldn't do it. But I figured why accuse someone before he even does anything? Let's cut Mustaine some slack, maybe he grew, maybe he'll be able to control himself. But of course two days later he was badmouthing Marty...

  • @MVProfits
    @MVProfits วันที่ผ่านมา

    Friedman back in Megadeth, and seeing them with Iron Maiden on the same night... wow, that would have been awesome.

  • @Borg14
    @Borg14 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    That drummer is going freaking crazy at 2:57

  • @johnnyb357
    @johnnyb357 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dave fucked up BIG TIME!

  • @AAAA-lt9hq
    @AAAA-lt9hq วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dave lowballing Marty in 2015 just reflects that, after Megadeth's 2002 breakup, Megadeth ceased being a band and became a Dave Mustaine solo project in all but name. "The System Has Failed" was even supposed to be a Mustaine solo record originally but the record company wanted the Megadeth name attached so it would sell more copies.
    Marty kissing Dave's ass at the Japan shows in 2023 makes it even sadder after hearing about this--the whole backstage interview where Marty praises Dave on and on made me wince.
    To understand this dynamic, one must realize Megadeth stopped being a band after Nick Menza was kicked out after "Cryptic Writings," and especially after "The World Needs a Hero" and the resulting litigation between Dave and Junior over the ownership of Megadeth rights (even then Dave had 80% ownership to Junior's 20%).
    So, any conversations about who else is in Megadeth don't matter. They're all hired guns from now on, even Junior who was paid around $10k a month when he rejoined Megadeth as a salaried employee. Imagine the insult of rejoining as an employee a band you started and originally had some control of, especially considering you were the only other consistent member.
    Dave already has a drummer who can play faster than he can ("Nightstalkers" being Megadeth's fastest song according to Dave at 195 bpm while Dirk can double bass at 16th notes at 240 bpm and has proven it on his TH-cam videos). I'd say he's getting a bargain in the drumming talent department.
    All that said, Dave is a legend and a great influence on my playing. But I wouldn't want to do business with him. I'm sure it would be fine sometimes, and a real drag other times.

  • @FrankTheDoomriderJohansen
    @FrankTheDoomriderJohansen 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    In a situation like this, if I was Marty and I could not just pick up the phone and call Dave to talk about the pay in a more man to man like brothers in metal then i would say fuck it. Funny how bands start out as buddies connecting and turns into managers and lawyer talking heads as go between. Pathetic.

    • @pauln6803
      @pauln6803 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      With perhaps the Poland/Samuelson lineup, Megadeth has always been a revolving door of hired guns.
      It's a business, with Dave Mustaine being the sole owner, hiring and firing people whenever his ego/paranoia/insecurities demands.
      One does not become a friend and partner in Dave's project, you sign a contract of employment.

  • @Stephen.na6
    @Stephen.na6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How can you lowball Marty Friedman? He’s WAY. Too good for megadeth nowadays his musicianship is way above thrash metal now, dave is lucky he would even consider it. It’s so disrespectful.

  • @fearpocalypse8062
    @fearpocalypse8062 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wasn't ready for the Ellefson sound effect lol

  • @brandonjackson5865
    @brandonjackson5865 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Supposedly JR. was jamming with Nick around the time they were thinking about the reunion and his chops weren’t up to snuff. Menza seemed to be turning things around but for a while he had some struggles and if you don’t use it you lose it, I think they were going to work with Nick to get him back to snuff for the reunion and then they lowballed both of them from their perspective. Marty wanted enough money to pay his crew and band in Japan so to not put his employees out, he should be commended for standing on that for his people, but also understand that it’s not Dave or Megadeth’s responsibility. This is all just what I’ve managed to piece together and I can’t guarantee it’s how it all went down. Also remember just how big Marty is in Japan he’s basically can’t walk down the street famous over there so he’s getting paid where as at the height of Megadeth’s popularity I guarantee unless he went somewhere music or guitar fan specific no one knew who he was, he never achieved household name success in the states he has achieved that in Japan also i can’t imagine the cost of living in Japan. It didn’t happen for a reason Marty also said he wanted to top RIP if he rejoined and Dave kinda of shot that down as in you can’t go back even though evenly album is supposed to be a return to RIP era Megadeth. I’d love to see Marty back in Megadeth full time but it’s not gonna happen and if it did they will never top those early 90s albums it wasn’t just them it was a special time in music look at all the music that came out from 89-94 it’s insane how many all time great albums came out in all genres during those years.

  • @LDN76
    @LDN76 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its called Mustainadeth for a reason people

  • @jimbothompson6540
    @jimbothompson6540 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Also if you read the mustaine biography... He mentions how there was a lot Arguing with the marty friedman nick menza lineup... nick and marty constantly complaining about money, he was being lowballed even back than

  • @mramos1126
    @mramos1126 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Chris Adler toured in 2016.

  • @theressomelovelyfilthdownh4329
    @theressomelovelyfilthdownh4329 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Seen Marty playing with Megadeath on the Rust in Peace tour in Belfast back in the day. Before that, he was just another one of those blokes I'd see in my friends issues of guitar player, or the like. Which is not the best way to be judging people, or their ability.
    Marty wasn't just some guy Dave hired on to be the stand in guitar player. His fingerprints are all over that album, It would be foolish to say he didn't do a lot for Megadeath whilst he was part of the band. Dave isn't asking him back because he can't find a decent guitarist capable of playing the parts. It's because that line up is worth something.
    You also can't blame Marty for not wanting to just walk off and ditch the band he's currently in. What are they supposed to do whilst Marty tours with Megadeath? Letting them sell merchandise, shouldn't be such a big deal. Just like paying Marty a fair wage shouldn't be either.
    He seems perfectly happy with the band he already has in Japan. Why throw that away, only to be hired on as a jobber for one tour? Quality of life matters as much as the numbers on your bank statement. Very few people get to do something they really enjoy for a living wage, so more power to Marty, I say. That and he clearly gives a toss about his fellow band members.

  • @johnnyalvarez2530
    @johnnyalvarez2530 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Megadeth needs to be renamed Megadave! He's had some good lineups but because of his greedy ego there only remins Dave he is the be all end all of his band. The lineup with Shawn Drover and Chris Broderick was his last great lineup, in my opinion.

  • @GloomExplorer
    @GloomExplorer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Remember, this is the guy who quit mid-tour (with no backup guitar player) because Risk bombed so hard and the fans hated it. Up until the last few years, whenever Marty was asked about those classic Megadeth albums like Rust, he acted like they weren't even that big of a deal and even bowed out of the remasters because he had no interest in it at all.

  • @SonOvLaw
    @SonOvLaw วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dave Mustaine gonna Dave Mustaine.

  • @josephkunath4173
    @josephkunath4173 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Megadeths last 2 albums were really good. Dystopia was fantastic.

  • @beaulavergne5557
    @beaulavergne5557 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what was the rate?? lol

  • @garryaldridge7325
    @garryaldridge7325 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Dave had so many chances to do something great again but his Ego said No to himself.Another Album with the magical classic Line Up and a Tour had brought Millions of Dollars🤷‍♂️Dave is out of mind since many years. the interviews he does the last years are Hard to listen,He seems like living in his own Cracy world.But i Admire his skills,Willpower and Music he gave us

  • @mikemorgan4774
    @mikemorgan4774 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Apparently Rust does take a nap once in a while.

  • @tallahoramismo
    @tallahoramismo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    🤔 *Who's got the bigger Ego-Dave Mustaine or Yngwie Malmsteen?*

  • @lc4754
    @lc4754 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very Sad. Marty is just a horrible person to be around.

  • @Rugz-smoke
    @Rugz-smoke 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Dave was insulted when the opportunity arose the first damn thing Marty asked was how am I go to get paid. Marty cares about only one thing. MONEY

    • @metalzonemt-2
      @metalzonemt-2 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Obviously that's what Dave cares about too, since he doesn't wanna pay him enough.

    • @crypticwritingonthewall
      @crypticwritingonthewall 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      no he doesn't lmao

    • @JesusLordOfLords455
      @JesusLordOfLords455 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      I definitely wouldn't tour for anyone unless I got payed well! Screw that 😅

    • @Gregbaltzer
      @Gregbaltzer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Nick Menza said the same thing in his book. He even said they refused to pay them for rehearsal time.

    • @deletedhero5579
      @deletedhero5579 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I mean if it's going to make him less money than doing his own solo stuff

  • @AndrewBarry-i9f
    @AndrewBarry-i9f 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    No wonder Dave Mustaine was kicked out of Metallica very early on. Metallica succeeded very well without him. Dave Mustaine is a money grub

    • @Jojo-bm4tb
      @Jojo-bm4tb 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      but thanks to metallica, we have now megadeth.

    • @mikatu
      @mikatu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      And yet Megadeth is 10 times better than Metallica!

    • @gansior4744
      @gansior4744 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@mikatu objectively or subjectively? Which Megadeth Album was successful in terms of sales, compare to Metallica? Megadeth didnt write anything outstanding after RiP, and they arent the household name. If you aren't in the sphere, you dont know what Megadeth is. Subjectively, I never found anything interesting there except RiP and Cryptic Writings

    • @pauln6803
      @pauln6803 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@mikatu
      Dave has phenomenal natural talent, but he's also worked with a series of incredible musicians.
      Megadeth wouldn't have achieved the success it did without their contributions, yet Dave still tells everyone that all the success is down to him alone, whilst everyone else gets the blame when things go wrong.
      Metallica on the other hand, is still a band consisting of four guys who play together because they still want to.
      Yes Metallica is a (highly successful) business too, but there has only been a couple of members change since Kill 'em All.
      And perhaps if Cliff wasn't killed, it would still be the same four guys.
      Metallica is still a band, Megadeth is Dave Mustaine's project, in which nobody has a certain future.

  • @AndyRoss-z3t
    @AndyRoss-z3t 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Megadeth has always been a one-man operation. A one-man show supported and advanced by "other" musicians.