Rather have a replacement fender that is the same length as the original - but do away with the black plastic, just chrome the whole length like the front.
While I agree the plastic was .. cheesy, I personally liked the functionality of having a proper fender over the tire that will minimize water/mud slopping up on my backside. ;) Had a cousin who seen my NEW KLR250 and told me the 1st thing that needed to go was all the plastic covers. I never removed anything and it was beneficial for all the rides. It also helped the resale 15 some years later. People were chomping at the bit for that bike. :)
Yes! Especially, fender deletes on sport bikes. The license plate is so far up and under the passenger seat/fender that some cops will pull you over because of it. And that’s an encounter that I don’t need.
Honestly, the best thing about this fender delete kit is the LED license plate light. I could care less about the “clean look” of less fender style. The more fender you have, the better it is in deflecting any mud or muddy water onto your back/neck. As fo the bottom holes not lining up, ever heard of drilling out the holes a tad bigger so that they line up with the license plate?
If you live in a climate with lots of sun it’s a good idea. For others who have to ride on wet roads it’s stupid. The standard set up stops water and crud getting on the back of your jacket. Those missing bolts at the bottom of numberplate look terrible and I bet the plate rattles when you ride it.
Here in the UK tail tidy is very popular purely because of the look. Personally, I like the original and also keeping the dirt under the fender and off me. Each to their own though
I really do not see a point of rear fender delete. You just trade in function over looks. Now, when you are driving in rain or mud, you get everything on your back. You are riding Honda Monkey, it is cool without this useless addon.
Agree mtlsi, worthless downgrade. Nothing but looks, and I think it looks worse now. One tip for riding, you want to be visible, so you also removed 3 reflectors, two on the side and one on the rear to make you less visible when you did that fender delete downgrade, good job. So you purchased a retro looking Monkey bike but you are not happy with the retro look so you want it to look more modern now, just buy the Grom instead.
@@JT-ov2yr Totally agree. No respect for people playing with motorcycles and poo-poo basic safety, for the sake of looks. I always want to be as visible as possible on the bike. Certainly doesn't look like you comprehend the risks associated with this sport.
I think I'd rather leave it on, I see they reason you wanna delete, its kinda modern plastic on a retro chrome bike, but it is matt black, so it doesn't jump out, and really it does have a useful function, if you live in sunny parts of the world, absolutely delete it, but for countries like U.K. that get 50/50 rain or shine, best keep it on if not a fair weather rider... we all know Honda's research and development is 2nd to none, they don't put useless stuff on to downgrade the looks, they are normally minimalistic in their design so there must be good reason, and I welcome it, and the option to remove it cleanly, and that it's done in matt black (flat?) so's not to pop! 👍🤗
I’m 6foot,1 and am a big guy so I like the stock plastic extension it makes the bike look longer, putting this mod on has no practical porpoise except the shorter it is the more mud and road grit you get on your back.
Throws out environmental solder sleeves, uses scotch locks, ends up with big wad of electrical tape *facepalm* Solder sleeves are about the best connection for wire subject to vibration and the elements.
I could be wrong but I don't believe you strip the wire ends before inserting them into to those connectors. They have little things in them that cut through the sheathing.
Hi Alex, watch all your videos, great stuff! However, I own a ‘21 Monkey as one of my 8 others (Ducatis, MZ, Yamahas, Piaggio) and I’ve decided by all means to leave it bone stock and don’t crave any mods as it’s a classic
Those connecters Look like they would do a good job, but I didn't care for how bulky the finished product ended up being. I would have probably left the plate cover off. This is about the simplest bike I have ever seen a fender eliminator installed on.
Yoshimura makes a nice product, if a bit overpriced. I have their tail tidy kit on my CRF450L and it's a solid item which is important for the beating it takes off road. For those on a budget, the MNNTHBX kit is very sturdy and looks nearly the same as the Yosh once installed other than it does not include a plate light. I sourced a Rizoma universal light and mounted to the MNNTHBX plate holder. Any universal plate light shoukd work, including those that double as plate mounting bolts.
Tommys style lol I thought you were going to turn it into a rocking chair with pipe and slippers. Now the volume is good on this upload but again Tommys was very quiet on the walk round on the 7 seater Gladiator. In the UK we would have to refit at least the rear facing reflector pretty sure the side also but not MOT'd a bike in a few years.
The original Honda Mini-Trail 50 (pre-monkey) didn't have the obscenely long rear fender, which was something I hated about the Monkey. I didn't have any problem with mud ending up on my back. I recall that the license plate itself was kind of a deterrent. I like the license plate light. I could adapt that to my Super Tenere.
Can't wait to see you guys get your hands on a Honda Navi. I just got mine and I can't find any accessories other than a couple of factory Honda items like rear rack and wind deflector.
I am buying a Monkey this week. I’ve been reading many of the channels dedicated to the Honda Monkey. I’m 60 yrs old. I though about doing some performance mods i.e., yoshimura exhaust, chimera air intake … But then I saw that you have to reprogram the computer or chips on the monkey to adjust for the modifications. Then one TH-camr said the reprogramming wasn’t working and he had to go back to the original exhaust and air intake. Question: should I leave it alone? Just as the manufacturer intended ? JC
I love mine. Looks awesome. Believe it or not the oem lobster tail caught fling. I found out immediately when I found chain lube fling on my backside right after doing this mod. Still... the looks factor is too much to pass up not doing this mod though.
This is what I did: th-cam.com/video/YOtFL0Ulb-s/w-d-xo.html Dismantle the back of fender. Cut the plastic fender to same length as Chrome fender. Shave the end and reflectors from metal part below the plastic. Attach the metal part back to its original place and attach the plate to that. Tidy, sturdy and doesn't cost anything. If wanted make a small bracket for original license plate light without it's cover and place that above the license plate. P. S. I think the plate is on much nicer angle when doing this mod yourself compared to many of these off the self fender tidy stuff.
I worked for CL and those scotchlocks are designed for solid phone wire and not stranded wire. Also you have a high open there,techs use a tool to ensure that button is pressed down completely. Please don’t used these.
Sorry laddie, but your video is a good demo of what not to do. Those heat shrink butt connectors are solid and 3M Scotch locks should never be used on a motorcycle. What a big LOL... I hope no one follows your video.
Alex, you forgot the roll of duct tape. When the wild man is out and about, terrorizing the neighborhood he'll need a strip of tape over the plate so he's not identified. Wouldn't want the poor guys on the inside to deal with his wrath if he got caught. I'm just sayin.
You clearly have never ridden a Monkey/Grom/Z125 Pro. I've been riding 30 years, ridden all sorts of bikes, and I've have more fun on the aforementioned bikes (have owned them all) than just about any other except for maybe my 450 dual sport off road. It's hard to explain to some folks, but it amounts to riding comically small bikes on public roads and getting to ride wide open ALL the time. Yes, they're slow, but you really do feel like you are riding something you shouldn't on the street. You can also kinda sorta get away with riding down paths, sidewalks, and in culverts if you don't act like too much of a fool.
Rather have a replacement fender that is the same length as the original - but do away with the black plastic, just chrome the whole length like the front.
The Yosh wire connectors are awesome. Not sure why you would mock something you apparently never used
Usually yosh fender kit looks awesome but In the Monkeys case, stock looks much better and completes the rear end nicely....
While I agree the plastic was .. cheesy, I personally liked the functionality of having a proper fender over the tire that will minimize water/mud slopping up on my backside. ;) Had a cousin who seen my NEW KLR250 and told me the 1st thing that needed to go was all the plastic covers. I never removed anything and it was beneficial for all the rides. It also helped the resale 15 some years later. People were chomping at the bit for that bike. :)
I have never understood fender deletes. I guess these folks only ride on dry surfaces in dry weather.
Yes! Especially, fender deletes on sport bikes. The license plate is so far up and under the passenger seat/fender that some cops will pull you over because of it. And that’s an encounter that I don’t need.
Champing. Champing at the bit.
Honestly, the best thing about this fender delete kit is the LED license plate light. I could care less about the “clean look” of less fender style. The more fender you have, the better it is in deflecting any mud or muddy water onto your back/neck. As fo the bottom holes not lining up, ever heard of drilling out the holes a tad bigger so that they line up with the license plate?
If you live in a climate with lots of sun it’s a good idea. For others who have to ride on wet roads it’s stupid. The standard set up stops water and crud getting on the back of your jacket. Those missing bolts at the bottom of numberplate look terrible and I bet the plate rattles when you ride it.
Solder and Heat-Shrink is a better way to go than those Scotch-Locks.
Like those heat shrink solder things that was included...
Here in the UK tail tidy is very popular purely because of the look. Personally, I like the original and also keeping the dirt under the fender and off me. Each to their own though
I really do not see a point of rear fender delete. You just trade in function over looks. Now, when you are driving in rain or mud, you get everything on your back.
You are riding Honda Monkey, it is cool without this useless addon.
The rear fender has no function except to comply with DOT requirements. I have had no problem with back spray from this kit on my Honda Monkey.
Agree mtlsi, worthless downgrade. Nothing but looks, and I think it looks worse now.
One tip for riding, you want to be visible, so you also removed 3 reflectors, two on the side and one on the rear to make you less visible when you did that fender delete downgrade, good job.
So you purchased a retro looking Monkey bike but you are not happy with the retro look so you want it to look more modern now, just buy the Grom instead.
@@JT-ov2yr Totally agree. No respect for people playing with motorcycles and poo-poo basic safety, for the sake of looks. I always want to be as visible as possible on the bike. Certainly doesn't look like you comprehend the risks associated with this sport.
I think I'd rather leave it on, I see they reason you wanna delete, its kinda modern plastic on a retro chrome bike, but it is matt black, so it doesn't jump out, and really it does have a useful function, if you live in sunny parts of the world, absolutely delete it, but for countries like U.K. that get 50/50 rain or shine, best keep it on if not a fair weather rider... we all know Honda's research and development is 2nd to none, they don't put useless stuff on to downgrade the looks, they are normally minimalistic in their design so there must be good reason, and I welcome it, and the option to remove it cleanly, and that it's done in matt black (flat?) so's not to pop! 👍🤗
I actually like the stock one better. It keeps the mud off the back of my shirt.
I’m 6foot,1 and am a big guy so I like the stock plastic extension it makes the bike look longer, putting this mod on has no practical porpoise except the shorter it is the more mud and road grit you get on your back.
Throws out environmental solder sleeves, uses scotch locks, ends up with big wad of electrical tape *facepalm*
Solder sleeves are about the best connection for wire subject to vibration and the elements.
Drill the holes on the bottom a tad bigger so the bolts fit
Those 3m connectors wont be water tight if you can see the exposed wire. 7:17
I could be wrong but I don't believe you strip the wire ends before inserting them into to those connectors. They have little things in them that cut through the sheathing.
Hi Alex, watch all your videos, great stuff!
However, I own a ‘21 Monkey as one of my 8 others (Ducatis, MZ, Yamahas, Piaggio) and I’ve decided by all means to leave it bone stock and don’t crave any mods as it’s a classic
Those connecters Look like they would do a good job, but I didn't care for how bulky the finished product ended up being. I would have probably left the plate cover off. This is about the simplest bike I have ever seen a fender eliminator installed on.
Ehh,stock is fine
Yoshimura makes a nice product, if a bit overpriced. I have their tail tidy kit on my CRF450L and it's a solid item which is important for the beating it takes off road.
For those on a budget, the MNNTHBX kit is very sturdy and looks nearly the same as the Yosh once installed other than it does not include a plate light. I sourced a Rizoma universal light and mounted to the MNNTHBX plate holder. Any universal plate light shoukd work, including those that double as plate mounting bolts.
Tommys style lol I thought you were going to turn it into a rocking chair with pipe and slippers.
Now the volume is good on this upload but again Tommys was very quiet on the walk round on the 7 seater Gladiator.
In the UK we would have to refit at least the rear facing reflector pretty sure the side also but not MOT'd a bike in a few years.
Improved departure angle
Nice job! I would love to see some performance mods.
That was a nice quick install.
The original Honda Mini-Trail 50 (pre-monkey) didn't have the obscenely long rear fender, which was something I hated about the Monkey. I didn't have any problem with mud ending up on my back. I recall that the license plate itself was kind of a deterrent. I like the license plate light. I could adapt that to my Super Tenere.
Nice and quick install. Great watch !
Thanks Alex!!..been waiting to see this bike again...looks great for starting out.. Cool 😎!!
Can't wait to see you guys get your hands on a Honda Navi. I just got mine and I can't find any accessories other than a couple of factory Honda items like rear rack and wind deflector.
Everyone needs a monkey 🐒. I'm not kidding either. 😄
Love My 2022 Banana Yellow Monkey 🐒 😁💟
I’m thinking of adding a tail tidy and cutting down a stiff rubber semi mudflap to keep my back dry.
Taking off the rear fender is stupid.
They make these things called drill bits for holes, would look way better with four bolts and no rattling.
Love your videos! Love the Monkey! You guys need a tripod!
Hope he'll take it off road some. Put more AT tread tires and hit trails.
Getting rid of the hideous US spec rear light and indicator unit should’ve been your first mod in my opinion.
I am buying a Monkey this week. I’ve been reading many of the channels dedicated to the Honda Monkey. I’m 60 yrs old. I though about doing some performance mods i.e., yoshimura exhaust, chimera air intake …
But then I saw that you have to reprogram the computer or chips on the monkey to adjust for the modifications. Then one TH-camr said the reprogramming wasn’t working and he had to go back to the original exhaust and air intake.
Question: should I leave it alone? Just as the manufacturer intended ?
JC
You could've gone with smaller bolts and bigger washers for the bottom holes of the license plate.
I love mine. Looks awesome. Believe it or not the oem lobster tail caught fling. I found out immediately when I found chain lube fling on my backside right after doing this mod. Still... the looks factor is too much to pass up not doing this mod though.
Clean!
My knees hurt looking at it
Thank you
Great video!
Sorry guys but it looks horrible, stock was way better.
Should have used the heat shrink connectors yoahi provided they solder when heated their not crimp connectors and the locks you used are junk
Now you get a spray of muddy water up your back. Why do this?
I think maybe the licence should on the out side of the frame？
I thought you said the plate frame was "Super high quality"???
Alex! Holding down the fort here in Colorado. Good job on the monkey. 3m splicers are great. Looks sweet!
This is what I did:
th-cam.com/video/YOtFL0Ulb-s/w-d-xo.html
Dismantle the back of fender. Cut the plastic fender to same length as Chrome fender. Shave the end and reflectors from metal part below the plastic. Attach the metal part back to its original place and attach the plate to that. Tidy, sturdy and doesn't cost anything. If wanted make a small bracket for original license plate light without it's cover and place that above the license plate.
P. S. I think the plate is on much nicer angle when doing this mod yourself compared to many of these off the self fender tidy stuff.
Didn't show the final profile shot of the bike? WOW.....before and after? rookie
Nice Porsche
I worked for CL and those scotchlocks are designed for solid phone wire and not stranded wire. Also you have a high open there,techs use a tool to ensure that button is pressed down completely. Please don’t used these.
I like the stock look and the mod look………… to each they’re own.👀😎👍👏👋✌️🇨🇦
#Justsayin
why not put reflectors on the bottom holes.....
does this void the warranty?
who wants a brighter plate light?, not me
Looks great! According to Colorado statute 42-4-206, you need to add reflector to replace the one removed.
Just drill out your plate holes then all 4 will fit
No way near as good as my tail tidy
Gotuhunibit? 🤔
too expensive...$137.
scotchlocks are terrible. never use them again.
Sorry laddie, but your video is a good demo of what not to do. Those heat shrink butt connectors are solid and 3M Scotch locks should never be used on a motorcycle. What a big LOL... I hope no one follows your video.
Alex, you forgot the roll of duct tape. When the wild man is out and about, terrorizing the neighborhood he'll need a strip of tape over the plate so he's not identified. Wouldn't want the poor guys on the inside to deal with his wrath if he got caught. I'm just sayin.
Weight saving? It Was plastic then put a metal. Very logical lol
Yoshimura kit is way overpriced...other options out there for half.
Lots of effort, with a questionable value. Don't forget to install IMMEDIATELY!! 😂
Yall need to review real bikes.... Like a ninja 400, Triumph trident, anything that has enough power to actually be excited about
Ha ninja400 is a real bike. You need a role model other than dr phil
You clearly have never ridden a Monkey/Grom/Z125 Pro. I've been riding 30 years, ridden all sorts of bikes, and I've have more fun on the aforementioned bikes (have owned them all) than just about any other except for maybe my 450 dual sport off road. It's hard to explain to some folks, but it amounts to riding comically small bikes on public roads and getting to ride wide open ALL the time. Yes, they're slow, but you really do feel like you are riding something you shouldn't on the street. You can also kinda sorta get away with riding down paths, sidewalks, and in culverts if you don't act like too much of a fool.
@@wreckedrc5137 better than a grom at least 😂
How many times is this dude gonna say 'Honda Monkey' ? We, in the bike community, know who makes the Monkey 125.
Thats a new monkey, so it's not honda, its made by skyteam so its skyteam monkey, its sold with name honda