This is the first low note tutorial that actually deals with what I'd call low notes. Most other teachers on here are tenors or countertenors trying to get a few baritone notes in, while I'm over here trying to break past my F2 floor.
@@WSlopeAggie You can do it. Get that A0 and keep going. I'd love to hear your B0, especially if you've got some meat on it. It's hard to find actual basses and I love hearing every one I can. Out of curiousity, do you ever use your upper register and is there any way we could chat about it? I'm getting so tired of people with more common voices telling me that voice registers aren't a real thing and that I must just need the right kind of practice to magically acquire a baritone's vocal break placement or something. I'd just like to chat with literally anyone else who gets the struggle of not having any "radio/karaoke music" written for their voice.
@@ExcessDenied0 Chest B0 sounds absurd. I figure basses are an octave below tenors so you'd figure they'd bottom about F1 or scrape a bit lower. I can scrape to about C#2 but you dont want to hear below D#2. I figure anyone with zero octave notes has heavy growl involved.
In my personal experience, letting notes get a little more "breathy" around 2-4 semitones above your floor while descending and allowing your head to slightly slump toward your chest can be helpful in reaching that extra semitone below
I recently lost some of my low range, improper singing was the culprit, and ive started singign properly now but never seemed to be able to get it back, but this is the first tutorial to have actually worked, thank you chris!
It took me years to realize my lower tone is garbage because I'm naturally a countertenor and I kept trying to learn singing like a baritone. Though I could hit the low notes, my tone made them practically unusable. This really helps fill in my low end better than anything else I've seen. Thanks Chris!
@@sinekonata i'm afraid i can't help you with that but since you're on youtube already, you might as well look it up here. Otherwise, the rest of the internet is pretty vast
@@chrisschmeitz1139 I mean you used the term "breaking the pitch", did you learn that term somewhere or did you come up with it out of instinctive knowledge?
@@sinekonata i have learned music theory but i haven't learned the term anywhere, i'll watch the video to see what i meant because i don't know anymore Edit: actually, i think i just meant singing without losing the note, sustaining it properly Edit: yeah, in the video he says he uses the fry while just not breaking the pitch, i was right in the previous edit. Hope it helps
fun fact there actually is a way you can sing octave(s) lower, it’s a technique that uses vocal fry too called subharmonics that can go an octave below your speaking voice, it’s basically a mix of chest voice and fry, my lowest note with it as a tenor is a c2, the super cool thing is there’s different levels to subharmonics that go even lower, there’s some really good videos about it here on youtube if y’all wanna check them out,i recommend a guy named david larson
Seconding this, David Larson is a cool and helpful dude. I can get down to A0 now, personally. (My voice is already naturally placed low to start though.) You ever see some of the stuff beatboxers can do with subharmonics? It's awesome.
@@ExcessDenied0 hey I am trying to learn singing lower. Iv seen David Larson's vids but can't really achieve subharmonics and other stuff. Where can I find good training and understanding? Please help.
@@bernardfernandes3537 That's a good question... I'm not aware of any teachers who would teach subharmonics, and I taught myself mostly through experimentation. You might have luck with someone who teaches screaming, as the techniques can be very similar. Honestly though, try using a vocal fry, get it really even/consistent, then gradually apply just a little bit of vocal compression until it starts to turn into a note. The trick with subharmonics is that they aren't actually as low as they sound. It'll feel like you're singing the same note, but 1-2 octaves higher than what you're hearing. You can also try choosing a comfortable note to sing on, then adding fry to it and supporting it with just a little compression. The air flow has to be just right, or it'll break. Subharmonics are fragile, so breath control is really important to get a good handle on. Don't try to overly darken your tone when you're just starting to learn, and don't worry about how low the note is, just try to get the right sound. If it starts to feel uncomfortable, stop for a few hours and try again later.
i found a trick that works with this: I dont try to sing one tone lower but a whole fifth. just going through the octaves, singing 1 5 1 5. then i sometimes i can hit an F1, which is not that usable because its very vocal-fry-ish (maybe a subharmonic, I dont know), but its still a sound I never made before.
That lesson on your Discover Your Voice course made me experiment with my lower chest voice and resonance and I remember going so low I woke up with a headache and regret (puch line). You are so mind-opening Chris! The way you describe things and apply them yo your voice and make us listen to the consequence...a true treasure to someone like me, trying to learn how to sing. Thank you, man!
Many thanks Chris. I'm like you, E2 is generally OK while D2 really isn't, and I need that one for my choir position, male-voice B2. Mornings I've got it, then I lose it during the day. I'll be working harder now!
You're amazing Chris. Your videos are so great as you cover so much ground in all aspects of singing. Your courses are also knowledge and applications that last a lifetime.
If you want to sing like him to cover it can be done one song at a time with practice but if you are wanting to sing to your own music with his voice your gonna need the right band to to give you that land to get lost in...cuz without his type of melodies it's not gonna work...good luck to ya...learn from others..be yourself
Another weakness of mine! This is perfect, I can't wait to try these out. I hope people understand how good you are at creating things for people to play with. Personally, I feel like I'm learning how to sing better by actively playing with your lessons versus listening to someone give a dry presentation on the habits of good singers
Awesome as always. Thanks man! I've struggled to sing an E2 but when doing that sound you did (when you found that note) I was able to do it with ease. I tend to struggle below F#2. I will practice going lower in this way.
I have a pretty high pitch voice in general. But my semi-pro tip is to find a song you almost can sing confortable without you sounding too weak, and just playing around with it until you sound good, not forced, unnatural or too weak. A good song that works well enough for me is crash test dummies mmm mmm mmm. Before I started practicing I really sounded weak and unnatural. Now I can pull it off well enough that I would be confortable singing it on stage. But I really can't go any lower than that.
@@AnymMusic Geoff is definitely a low baritone, I promise. He's just really specialized his voice for the stuff he wants it to do, and that's pretty awesome imho.
This video was awesome man, there are so many obscure techniques for singing lower (often into the 1st octave) that many oktavists (contrabasses) use. Would love to see a video or just your opinions on some of them (ie. subharmonics, ingressive phonation, strohbass)
Oktavists are the most insane basso profundos the eastern orthodox church could find. They're doing all this stuff with their voices. People use subharmonics to try and sing like oktavists.
comically_large_chungus many oktavists use techniques such as strohbass or VVM to achieve the insane lows the term oktavist as defined by oktavist.com is basses who can sing down to a Bb1 in a choral setting, however a friend of mine had the pleasure of speaking to the man who is in charge of the website and he asked if oktavist was a voice type or a role and the answer came back as it being a role, another friend of mine (Alexander mayang on TH-cam if you wanna check out his channel) has interviewed a decent handful of oktavists and profundos and he asked some of them if using a different method other than modal voice was legitimate, the answer from people like Glenn Miller and Vladimir Miller came back as yes, Joel frederickson said that even he will sometimes use strohbass for some of his lowest notes, you are for sure right that many try to imitate them with subharmonics, I should have been more clear in what I said, I can only think of one oktavist who uses subharmonics, his name is Pavel myhakotin
comically_large_chungus strohbass has yet to have a clear explanation from what I found, if it’s chest fry mix then I need to work on mine bc mine is not loud enough, VVM is similar to kargyrra except the underlying growl is not loud enough to be heard over the choir and only the desired note is heard
Happy birthday mate! I'm celebrating mine today too (on the 6th) with lots of singing. Im on week 5 of the online course, doing the major scales today, good fun!
Hello Chris! Can you please make a video "How to sing like Luciano Pavarotti"? Or something like that. I think it would be great because opera is probably one of the most difficult vocal techniques. what do you think?
Would be great. I can inform you a bit, I am training not exactly opera but a vocal set up very similar to opera. Basically you need to learn to lower you larynx and darken the vowels enough in your mix so that you open up your voice and enter a specific placement within your voice that is called “coperto” or covered mixed voice. It has the brightness and lightness of mix but the added projection of a more open throat and a lower larynx, plus a chestier sound. It’s super loud. Although I will say it is very advanced and it’s quite counterintuitive. If you want to learn more, I can give you some yt names. Although obviously this won’t make you sound exactly like Pav, this is just how he approached the passaggio area. He talks about this himself
@@toothless2323 Thanks! By the way, I successfully graduated Chris's vocal course and mixed etc. And now I sing in my mixed voice pretty well. But I was wondering how to sing opera and stuff like that. My head voice is pretty good and I can sing opera in my head voice. But the main problem is I can't sing opera in my chest voice. I try to lower my larynx but I can't hit high notes, for example "Nessun dorma". I just don't know how to sing it
@@ulfrik7825 I learned that, for me at least, it's more of a relative lowering of my larynx. When I am in my middle range singing opera, my larynx is quite far down (although not all the way). But as I move up I allow it to move up with me, as long as it is at any given time lower than when I am singing the same pitch in a more contemporary style. That being said, I do train the muscles and try to gain the strength to lower it even further, but when I am actually performing the aria I tend to not go as low as possible, because I always want a bit of leeway. That's all just on larynx position, but as you know there's some more stuff to it.
Steffen Thole yeah, covered mixed voice is the idea of darkening the vowels to a more woofier sound if you will and this will naturally lower the larynx. Not the the maximum as you say, but quite significantly. This opens the voice up in that copperto manner and allows for that singers formant and that second formant in the third harmonic to boost the sound. Second formant singing. Pav was called the master at this technique, and one can visually see this harmonic and formant relationship with a power spectrum.
@@SteffenThole and how am I supposed to sing high notes with lowered larynx? I can sing in mixed voice with lowered larynx. It's one of the 2 possible ways to do that. But I don't know how to sing with chest voice and lowered larynx and this frequent vibrato. It's just confusing. I hope Chris will make a video about that. Because i'm just stuck
My lowest note had seemed like an E2 like yours - just managed to hit a C2. What? That's mad! I can only usually do that before I clear my throat first thing in the morning!!!
Hi Chris. It's nice to see you adressing this subject. I wondered if you would, given your emphasis on mix voice and high screams:) Regarding the exercise at 4:00, how do you consciously move your larynx? I feel my neck getting really tense when I try it; it might even be the first time that I feel pain doing one of your many... noises:P Also, your Adam's apple is very visilble, so we can see your larynx move up and down, right? Mine is invisible, so I don't have that visual feedback xD Thanks!
You can put your hand up to your neck and feel your adams apple... that works for me sometimes :) For better control over your larynx and how to manipulate your vocal tract without tension, if you want, check out my course: Discover Your Voice: (that's a big question to answer in a youtube comment or single video :) www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/discover-your-voice/
@@chrisliepe Got you. I did watch your free lessons, might enroll to your course in the near future. You're doing really great stuff on youtube, love your approach based on sensation rather than vague talk about body parts without care for practical execution.
Great lesson as always Chris! Personally, I discovered the joy and necessity of singing low after watching your Corey Taylor breakdown. It's awfully underrated when you're "shooting for the stars" as an ambitious, male singer :P Question/ suggestion: Any chance you could dive into the style and technique of female singers like Maria Brink (or Lzzy Hale or Amy Lee)? I'd be delighted to learn ~more~ anything about Maria's unique style and technique. Cheers from Germany!
with a combination of vocal fry and chest voice you can actually sing a octave lower than the actual note youre singing. this is called "subharmonics" with that tecnique i managed to do a B0 while my lowest chest note was B1 PD: i lost my B1 now is a C#2 PD2: you actually did a lot of subharmonics in the video 💀
It’s worth noting too that there are many high voiced singers with absurdly developed lower registers. Nina Hagen especially in her youth was a prime example, as well as Paul McCartney. Both have sung to A1(!). There are limits to resonance and it is less asymptotic than in the upper reaches of your voice, but you can still do quite a good deal. A lot of what we often describe as damaging the voice to a lower pitch is indeed simply lowering the voice by adding weight and grit to it. Lauren Bacall is a great speaker’s example!
nina hagen's mezzo-soprano voice and her low 2nd octave/1st octave notes never coexisted, her severe vocal cord damage forced her tessitura lower and as a result her ability to belt in the 5th octave disappeared along with the formation of a bass register. basically her voice was no longer high by the time she could sing well below the bass clef. mccartney is a great example though, could sing to C2 or so in chest voice and had very strong vocal fry abilities down to A1, while being able to hit high 4th and low 5th octave belts
@@heliotropeskies5918 Actually! She was singing as low as the mid second octave and as high as the upper sixth octave altogether by the early 80s. Look up her album Nunsexmonkrock. But you’re right, her voice lowered severely by and into the 21st century. But still, such low notes are quite atypical on a woman.
Hi Chris! First of all THANK YOU for such amazing videos. You are really didactical when it comes to teach, and this is a lot helpful. Now I got a question: when I do vocal fry it's a lot easier to me to do it inhaling air than exhaling. It is right to do it that way? Since now, thank you again and sorry for mi english! Cheers from Argentina!
Glad you enjoy the videos! Makes my day to hear that :) It might be easier to inhale and experience fry, but it's a lot less useful. Practice exhaling and fry more and it will become more natural.
rare for a vocal tip video to push as low as D2 in a low note demonstration lol. ken tamplin got to a D2 i think as well in his ring of fire cover where he talked of the difference between lowering and dropping the larynx but by and large vocal instruction videos are made by tenors or women who can barely (if at all) touch the 2nd octave and because of that sometimes its more difficult to perceive what one could or should sound like at the bottom of their natural chest registration. just out of curiousity, chris, what is the lowest note u would say u've ever sung in chest voice?
I havent watched yet, but I have to ask. The other day I sung into my note identifier and hit B1 very loud and comfortably. I couldnt believe it so I looked up other males singing that note and to my surprise I was right, i could do it and was so damn happy. Now a few days later ive tried and I cant hit anywhere near that, and it feels like the note is getting caught in my throat and wont go down to the chest and allow me to sing lower. It cant have just been a fluke, ive always had a low pitch voice. Any tips?
What is this magic voodoo elixer? I went from a lowest of F#1 down to a C1 a couple of times. And not ghost -like, this actually had some force behind it; rough but solid. Still need to get higher than that stupid D4 to be much use in or rock cover band, tho, not a lot of call for this. I wish it was the other way around. And wow did I get some strange looks from my wife!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this the subharmonic register or something completely different because I’ve managed to go from E2 to Eb1 with subharmonics but I’m not sure if I’m doing this right.
I have naturally high pitched speaking voice. I can get my voice lower and sing some notes using this kind of training, but then I can't still access them quickly when singing a phrase with that one low note. Guess I have to train more dilligently to be able to do that.
Great tutorial! I think i just hit a C#2 with your method in chest voice, how do i know if it counts as chest and not as fry? Whats the definition of chest notes? How do i hear the difference, is it just that its a consistent note without that raspy fry sound?
Hey Chris! i’ve been running into this problem where i can sing a “La” sound and go pretty high up with it (higher then i thought my voice could go without going into falsetto) but my problem occurrs when i try to sing the lyrics and my voice restricts me and makes this horrible cracking. It’s quite annoying cause i can’t figure out what is doing this!! if you could help that would be great.
Please do Lewis De Jong from Alien Weaponary I think you will love to hear his voice especially on the songs Blinded and Whispers I would love to hear you try their song Kai Tangata as well Please please love from New Zealand
This sounds more like subharmonics. I'm hitting an F1 now, but before i couldnt go below a D2. my normal speaking voice is around A2 or G2, so i guess that was an advantage.
The problem for me is that my voice is deeper than your lower resonance. Sometimes when I try to do vocal fry, my voice will just sorta let out a sound the equivalent of gas being slowly released from a tube.
@@chrisliepe I haven't tried the course yet, also I think it might've been because I was trying to keep my voice down, that and I tried to do it laying down.
@@chrisliepe do remember that very very low pitches won't be that resonant off mic. Even people like Geoff Castellucci have their voice booster at parts just to have those a low AF notes give more oomph
My range is much closer to Colter Wall, Mark Lanegan, Sven Friedrich, etc., so this was far more comfortable for me. One problem I consistently have is an enhancement of my lisp (broken teeth, twice broken jaw, ah well) which makes everything sound much lazier.
That sounds dope tbh i love lazy sounding low singers it gives you a very bluesy quality like jim morrison and stuff also lisps add character go for it
Im no singer by any means but on my scale my lowest comfortable note is a g1 i thi k my voice is considered tenor its not deep at all. Not siper high either. I picked up sub harmoics almost instantly and after a day i had a small range in subs. Let me know if i can assist in getting there
Also sidenote* my lower range is way better when I do false cord screams. I hope I'm not doing anything wrong or if that should happen, I don't feel any pain.
I don’t know my voice type but some day I bottom out at a G2 and some days I bottom out at an F2 lowest I’ve bottomed out at a D2 with fry I’ve bottomed out at at an E1 and chest fry I regularly stop at an A1
Definitely a tenor, likely a high tenor. Speaking of "chest fry" that sounds interesting but i've never really gotten how to do it. I tend to just get into a mix using fry and that opens up bottom range. From there i just growl as heavy as i can and if it works i can get down to G1 or so.
@@magmarok8209 that guy doesnt know what he is talking about he is bullshitting If you are a young man like 14 or so then you are most likely a Baritone maybe a bass in the future. If you bottom consistently at E2 or lower definately a Bass Now if you can hit easily A4s yeah that would make u a tenor but G2s for an untrained tenor is pretty extreme
@@somekindofdude1130 after starting vocal training I regularly bottom out at Eb2 with resonance and C2 Db2 a good bit weaker. B1 and Bb1 are there but not good sounding or inviting. But I prefer to use subharmonics and chest fry for anything lower than an F2 since I really sound best from G2 to C5 and I’m most resonant from F2 to C4 I can get up there though. Around G5 Ab5 with the occasional Bb5 squeak. But I’m training in the basics right now.
Not sure if you'll even see this, but I just went through puberty a few months ago (13yo) and I got through my fry phase, now my lowest note before slipping into strohbass / something like chest-fry and losing a bit of my resonance is C#2 / Mid C2 on a good day, and I can work to a pretty mediocre subharmonic F1 (Just started learning them, it's very fun to use and to hear progress), and fry into a low and clear E1, and (not sure if this one counts) a low Db1 with a lot of airy overtones that doesn't really get picked up as a low note on any pitch recording software and I can only measure it on a piano (I know for a fact it's not a D4 though so I don't know yet how those softwares work). I don't know if this is hurting my voice or not, but if anyone has anything to say I'd be glad to listen and take your advice. PS: i have no idea what i am doing so any suggestions on where to go from here would be amazing aswell.
If you feel good while doing it, you're not causing any damage. STOP if pain does become a thing. Working with lower notes with proper airflow and support rarely causes any discomfort! Enjoy the new phase of the journey!
Update: either my vocal cords are tired from yesterday or my brain just decided to turn me from toilet-monster into a sewer monster, I'm now able to full-voice a low A1, maybe even pop into a G#1 and a G1 for a bit. will also post updates on how this goes 'cause this is too much fun.
This is the first low note tutorial that actually deals with what I'd call low notes. Most other teachers on here are tenors or countertenors trying to get a few baritone notes in, while I'm over here trying to break past my F2 floor.
I'm trying to break past my B0 floor, I can do it with chest voice since I'm a contrabass buuut...it's not exactly strong.
@@WSlopeAggie You can do it. Get that A0 and keep going. I'd love to hear your B0, especially if you've got some meat on it. It's hard to find actual basses and I love hearing every one I can. Out of curiousity, do you ever use your upper register and is there any way we could chat about it? I'm getting so tired of people with more common voices telling me that voice registers aren't a real thing and that I must just need the right kind of practice to magically acquire a baritone's vocal break placement or something. I'd just like to chat with literally anyone else who gets the struggle of not having any "radio/karaoke music" written for their voice.
@@ExcessDenied0 Chest B0 sounds absurd. I figure basses are an octave below tenors so you'd figure they'd bottom about F1 or scrape a bit lower. I can scrape to about C#2 but you dont want to hear below D#2. I figure anyone with zero octave notes has heavy growl involved.
@@WSlopeAggie I'd love to hear some of those low chest notes recordings 😊
Are you in the BSN ?
In my personal experience, letting notes get a little more "breathy" around 2-4 semitones above your floor while descending and allowing your head to slightly slump toward your chest can be helpful in reaching that extra semitone below
I recently lost some of my low range, improper singing was the culprit, and ive started singign properly now but never seemed to be able to get it back, but this is the first tutorial to have actually worked, thank you chris!
You're so welcome!
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This dude unlocked an E1 in chest for me, what a mad lad
What the fuck lol I'm 15 and can only get a B1 😂
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Chris, thanks for your tips for singing low notes. As a bass I could routinely sing Db2. Using your technique I can now sing E1 (41 Hz).
It took me years to realize my lower tone is garbage because I'm naturally a countertenor and I kept trying to learn singing like a baritone. Though I could hit the low notes, my tone made them practically unusable. This really helps fill in my low end better than anything else I've seen. Thanks Chris!
how low did you get by chance
@@muslimmetalman My lowest note started as an A3 and I'm almost down to E3 now
@@s.kanessuperbiatv6464shit and I though my voice is extremely high (speaking voice around D2-F2) 😭
@@ondrejlukas326 my speaking voice is pretty bright too so it's easier to reach higher notes, but it's hard for me to darken to go lower
@@ondrejlukas326D2 to F2 is definitely low
The combined voice of chest and fry is subharmonics, it's a great technique to sing without breaking the actual pitch.
Where can I read or watch some more info on what exactly breaking the pitch means for music?
@@sinekonata i'm afraid i can't help you with that but since you're on youtube already, you might as well look it up here. Otherwise, the rest of the internet is pretty vast
@@chrisschmeitz1139 I mean you used the term "breaking the pitch", did you learn that term somewhere or did you come up with it out of instinctive knowledge?
@@sinekonata i have learned music theory but i haven't learned the term anywhere, i'll watch the video to see what i meant because i don't know anymore
Edit: actually, i think i just meant singing without losing the note, sustaining it properly
Edit: yeah, in the video he says he uses the fry while just not breaking the pitch, i was right in the previous edit. Hope it helps
Not necessarily. You can also use a chest-fry mix, without using subharmonics.
fun fact there actually is a way you can sing octave(s) lower, it’s a technique that uses vocal fry too called subharmonics that can go an octave below your speaking voice, it’s basically a mix of chest voice and fry, my lowest note with it as a tenor is a c2, the super cool thing is there’s different levels to subharmonics that go even lower, there’s some really good videos about it here on youtube if y’all wanna check them out,i recommend a guy named david larson
Seconding this, David Larson is a cool and helpful dude. I can get down to A0 now, personally. (My voice is already naturally placed low to start though.) You ever see some of the stuff beatboxers can do with subharmonics? It's awesome.
@@ExcessDenied0 hey I am trying to learn singing lower. Iv seen David Larson's vids but can't really achieve subharmonics and other stuff. Where can I find good training and understanding? Please help.
@@bernardfernandes3537 That's a good question... I'm not aware of any teachers who would teach subharmonics, and I taught myself mostly through experimentation. You might have luck with someone who teaches screaming, as the techniques can be very similar. Honestly though, try using a vocal fry, get it really even/consistent, then gradually apply just a little bit of vocal compression until it starts to turn into a note. The trick with subharmonics is that they aren't actually as low as they sound. It'll feel like you're singing the same note, but 1-2 octaves higher than what you're hearing. You can also try choosing a comfortable note to sing on, then adding fry to it and supporting it with just a little compression. The air flow has to be just right, or it'll break. Subharmonics are fragile, so breath control is really important to get a good handle on. Don't try to overly darken your tone when you're just starting to learn, and don't worry about how low the note is, just try to get the right sound. If it starts to feel uncomfortable, stop for a few hours and try again later.
@@ExcessDenied0 thanks alot. That's very detailed bruh. I'll work on it.🤘🏻
@@bernardfernandes3537 Good luck, man!
i found a trick that works with this: I dont try to sing one tone lower but a whole fifth. just going through the octaves, singing 1 5 1 5. then i sometimes i can hit an F1, which is not that usable because its very vocal-fry-ish (maybe a subharmonic, I dont know), but its still a sound I never made before.
That lesson on your Discover Your Voice course made me experiment with my lower chest voice and resonance and I remember going so low I woke up with a headache and regret (puch line). You are so mind-opening Chris! The way you describe things and apply them yo your voice and make us listen to the consequence...a true treasure to someone like me, trying to learn how to sing. Thank you, man!
Thanks for sharing!!
Many thanks Chris. I'm like you, E2 is generally OK while D2 really isn't, and I need that one for my choir position, male-voice B2. Mornings I've got it, then I lose it during the day. I'll be working harder now!
You're amazing Chris. Your videos are so great as you cover so much ground in all aspects of singing. Your courses are also knowledge and applications that last a lifetime.
The best, most comprehensive video out there on the topic.
Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
it may be getting obnoxious by now but how to sing like Jonathan Davis is still top of my request list \m/
He's still on my list for sure ;)
If you want to sing like him to cover it can be done one song at a time with practice but if you are wanting to sing to your own music with his voice your gonna need the right band to to give you that land to get lost in...cuz without his type of melodies it's not gonna work...good luck to ya...learn from others..be yourself
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Another weakness of mine! This is perfect, I can't wait to try these out. I hope people understand how good you are at creating things for people to play with. Personally, I feel like I'm learning how to sing better by actively playing with your lessons versus listening to someone give a dry presentation on the habits of good singers
I'm glad you're resonating with what I'm doing! (See what I did there?)
@@chrisliepe Regarding your pun, I think I got the chest of it. (I'll see myself out now)
This is the BEST video I have found regarding sub-harmonics and vocal fry. I really enjoy the small attention to detail in your explanations!
low notes are so beautiful and underrated
Awesome as always. Thanks man! I've struggled to sing an E2 but when doing that sound you did (when you found that note) I was able to do it with ease. I tend to struggle below F#2. I will practice going lower in this way.
I have a pretty high pitch voice in general. But my semi-pro tip is to find a song you almost can sing confortable without you sounding too weak, and just playing around with it until you sound good, not forced, unnatural or too weak.
A good song that works well enough for me is crash test dummies mmm mmm mmm. Before I started practicing I really sounded weak and unnatural. Now I can pull it off well enough that I would be confortable singing it on stage. But I really can't go any lower than that.
Basically go incrementally lower and lower till your absolute limit
Awesome Video! I love singing Bass. Basso Profondo, Tim Foust, Geoff Castellucci, Avi Kaplan, Mikhail Zlatopolsky and all that...
I wish I could do that but I'm a damn baritone (no Geoff is a bass idc what he says 😂. Dude has a lower voice than I can even reach total)
@@AnymMusic I'm a dumb tenor
@@AnymMusic Tim and Geoff are bass baritones, Avi Kaplan is definitely a basso cantante, Mikhail of course basso profondo
@@AnymMusic Geoff is definitely a low baritone, I promise. He's just really specialized his voice for the stuff he wants it to do, and that's pretty awesome imho.
This video was awesome man, there are so many obscure techniques for singing lower (often into the 1st octave) that many oktavists (contrabasses) use. Would love to see a video or just your opinions on some of them (ie. subharmonics, ingressive phonation, strohbass)
Oktavists are the most insane basso profundos the eastern orthodox church could find. They're doing all this stuff with their voices. People use subharmonics to try and sing like oktavists.
comically_large_chungus many oktavists use techniques such as strohbass or VVM to achieve the insane lows the term oktavist as defined by oktavist.com is basses who can sing down to a Bb1 in a choral setting, however a friend of mine had the pleasure of speaking to the man who is in charge of the website and he asked if oktavist was a voice type or a role and the answer came back as it being a role, another friend of mine (Alexander mayang on TH-cam if you wanna check out his channel) has interviewed a decent handful of oktavists and profundos and he asked some of them if using a different method other than modal voice was legitimate, the answer from people like Glenn Miller and Vladimir Miller came back as yes, Joel frederickson said that even he will sometimes use strohbass for some of his lowest notes, you are for sure right that many try to imitate them with subharmonics, I should have been more clear in what I said, I can only think of one oktavist who uses subharmonics, his name is Pavel myhakotin
@@isaiahgilliam1 strohbass is essentially a chest fry mix. Idk what VVM is tho.
comically_large_chungus strohbass has yet to have a clear explanation from what I found, if it’s chest fry mix then I need to work on mine bc mine is not loud enough, VVM is similar to kargyrra except the underlying growl is not loud enough to be heard over the choir and only the desired note is heard
@@comically_large_chungus most use subharmonics (Especially if they go down to E1)
Happy birthday mate! I'm celebrating mine today too (on the 6th) with lots of singing. Im on week 5 of the online course, doing the major scales today, good fun!
I love low subharmonic voice and these i suppose helps me observe lower notes, along with just playing with actual vocal fry, its very helpful
I haven’t even watched yet and I’m loving this, thanks for the song choice too lol i got excited because I don’t know the songs you usually practice
you are the best teacher
Hello Chris! Can you please make a video "How to sing like Luciano Pavarotti"? Or something like that. I think it would be great because opera is probably one of the most difficult vocal techniques. what do you think?
Would be great. I can inform you a bit, I am training not exactly opera but a vocal set up very similar to opera. Basically you need to learn to lower you larynx and darken the vowels enough in your mix so that you open up your voice and enter a specific placement within your voice that is called “coperto” or covered mixed voice. It has the brightness and lightness of mix but the added projection of a more open throat and a lower larynx, plus a chestier sound. It’s super loud. Although I will say it is very advanced and it’s quite counterintuitive. If you want to learn more, I can give you some yt names. Although obviously this won’t make you sound exactly like Pav, this is just how he approached the passaggio area. He talks about this himself
@@toothless2323 Thanks! By the way, I successfully graduated Chris's vocal course and mixed etc. And now I sing in my mixed voice pretty well. But I was wondering how to sing opera and stuff like that. My head voice is pretty good and I can sing opera in my head voice. But the main problem is I can't sing opera in my chest voice. I try to lower my larynx but I can't hit high notes, for example "Nessun dorma". I just don't know how to sing it
@@ulfrik7825 I learned that, for me at least, it's more of a relative lowering of my larynx. When I am in my middle range singing opera, my larynx is quite far down (although not all the way). But as I move up I allow it to move up with me, as long as it is at any given time lower than when I am singing the same pitch in a more contemporary style. That being said, I do train the muscles and try to gain the strength to lower it even further, but when I am actually performing the aria I tend to not go as low as possible, because I always want a bit of leeway. That's all just on larynx position, but as you know there's some more stuff to it.
Steffen Thole yeah, covered mixed voice is the idea of darkening the vowels to a more woofier sound if you will and this will naturally lower the larynx. Not the the maximum as you say, but quite significantly. This opens the voice up in that copperto manner and allows for that singers formant and that second formant in the third harmonic to boost the sound. Second formant singing. Pav was called the master at this technique, and one can visually see this harmonic and formant relationship with a power spectrum.
@@SteffenThole and how am I supposed to sing high notes with lowered larynx? I can sing in mixed voice with lowered larynx. It's one of the 2 possible ways to do that. But I don't know how to sing with chest voice and lowered larynx and this frequent vibrato. It's just confusing. I hope Chris will make a video about that. Because i'm just stuck
My lowest note had seemed like an E2 like yours - just managed to hit a C2. What? That's mad! I can only usually do that before I clear my throat first thing in the morning!!!
Was wondering how to say what a great teacher you are but suffice to say: I love you !
Seeing this video pop up in my subscription feed gave me so much joy! Thanks for following through on this one!
Hi Chris. It's nice to see you adressing this subject. I wondered if you would, given your emphasis on mix voice and high screams:)
Regarding the exercise at 4:00, how do you consciously move your larynx? I feel my neck getting really tense when I try it; it might even be the first time that I feel pain doing one of your many... noises:P
Also, your Adam's apple is very visilble, so we can see your larynx move up and down, right? Mine is invisible, so I don't have that visual feedback xD
Thanks!
You can put your hand up to your neck and feel your adams apple... that works for me sometimes :) For better control over your larynx and how to manipulate your vocal tract without tension, if you want, check out my course: Discover Your Voice: (that's a big question to answer in a youtube comment or single video :) www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/discover-your-voice/
@@chrisliepe Got you. I did watch your free lessons, might enroll to your course in the near future. You're doing really great stuff on youtube, love your approach based on sensation rather than vague talk about body parts without care for practical execution.
@@arthursimsa9005 Great! I'm so glad the approach is meeting you where you're at!
Thanks for sharing this. It's interesting, even if you can't go very low... But hey, every one has a voice, so...
A how to sing like Ville Valo would be cool after this 😅
Yes, damn YES!!
I was waiting like forever for this video!!!!!
Please do how to sing like John Cooper of Skillet. Their comatose comes alive version of their song Forsaken would be an amazing example to do.
In the morning I can get D#2 pretty resonant but in the middle of the day it's harder to get to those notes. Below G2 is a bit difficult.
YAAAAAAAS finally!
Thanks again for another great tip that now I can help my clients as well.
This is an excellent lesson! Thankyou as always, Chris!
Can you do a video on natural pitch control and enunciation when singing at different pitches
Liked before watching because I know it's gonna be good.
Great lesson as always Chris! Personally, I discovered the joy and necessity of singing low after watching your Corey Taylor breakdown.
It's awfully underrated when you're "shooting for the stars" as an ambitious, male singer :P
Question/ suggestion:
Any chance you could dive into the style and technique of female singers like Maria Brink (or Lzzy Hale or Amy Lee)?
I'd be delighted to learn ~more~ anything about Maria's unique style and technique.
Cheers from Germany!
Thanks so much!! I appreciate the feedback and the suggestion. :)
I’d love a breakdown of Claudio Sanchez’s voice, from Coheed & Cambria.
Love the videos, would love to see you talk about some country singers. Morgan Wallen and Luke Combs would be my top picks
loved this Chris. Thanks!
Can you do a video on Michael Poulshen from Volbeat?
Awesome man thank you for you amazing videos
12:09 Suddenly, Bob Belcher
ty after practising i now have a Bb1 in chest and my subharmonic register has gone down to a c#1
with a combination of vocal fry and chest voice you can actually sing a octave lower than the actual note youre singing. this is called "subharmonics" with that tecnique i managed to do a B0 while my lowest chest note was B1 PD: i lost my B1 now is a C#2 PD2: you actually did a lot of subharmonics in the video 💀
thank you chris
👍Thank you! 🙏
It’s worth noting too that there are many high voiced singers with absurdly developed lower registers. Nina Hagen especially in her youth was a prime example, as well as Paul McCartney. Both have sung to A1(!). There are limits to resonance and it is less asymptotic than in the upper reaches of your voice, but you can still do quite a good deal. A lot of what we often describe as damaging the voice to a lower pitch is indeed simply lowering the voice by adding weight and grit to it. Lauren Bacall is a great speaker’s example!
nina hagen's mezzo-soprano voice and her low 2nd octave/1st octave notes never coexisted, her severe vocal cord damage forced her tessitura lower and as a result her ability to belt in the 5th octave disappeared along with the formation of a bass register. basically her voice was no longer high by the time she could sing well below the bass clef. mccartney is a great example though, could sing to C2 or so in chest voice and had very strong vocal fry abilities down to A1, while being able to hit high 4th and low 5th octave belts
@@heliotropeskies5918 Actually! She was singing as low as the mid second octave and as high as the upper sixth octave altogether by the early 80s. Look up her album Nunsexmonkrock. But you’re right, her voice lowered severely by and into the 21st century. But still, such low notes are quite atypical on a woman.
Please teach us how to sing like diana ankudinova! Thanks. For. Your videos
Hi Chris! First of all THANK YOU for such amazing videos. You are really didactical when it comes to teach, and this is a lot helpful. Now I got a question: when I do vocal fry it's a lot easier to me to do it inhaling air than exhaling. It is right to do it that way? Since now, thank you again and sorry for mi english! Cheers from Argentina!
Glad you enjoy the videos! Makes my day to hear that :) It might be easier to inhale and experience fry, but it's a lot less useful. Practice exhaling and fry more and it will become more natural.
@@chrisliepe THANK YOU so much! I will do that, of course! c:
I want to develop into a bass, I'm 14 and my C#2 and D2 are getting better resonance.
im reaching c0 with this wtf, thank you
rare for a vocal tip video to push as low as D2 in a low note demonstration lol. ken tamplin got to a D2 i think as well in his ring of fire cover where he talked of the difference between lowering and dropping the larynx but by and large vocal instruction videos are made by tenors or women who can barely (if at all) touch the 2nd octave and because of that sometimes its more difficult to perceive what one could or should sound like at the bottom of their natural chest registration. just out of curiousity, chris, what is the lowest note u would say u've ever sung in chest voice?
can you do a video about subharmonics pleaaaaase? :)
Thanks!
I havent watched yet, but I have to ask. The other day I sung into my note identifier and hit B1 very loud and comfortably. I couldnt believe it so I looked up other males singing that note and to my surprise I was right, i could do it and was so damn happy. Now a few days later ive tried and I cant hit anywhere near that, and it feels like the note is getting caught in my throat and wont go down to the chest and allow me to sing lower. It cant have just been a fluke, ive always had a low pitch voice. Any tips?
Great video! I love low singing. Can you, please, make a video "how to sing like Dave Gahan"? Thanks!
11:46 definitely sounded like Matt Bellamy for that first few seconds!
What is this magic voodoo elixer? I went from a lowest of F#1 down to a C1 a couple of times. And not ghost -like, this actually had some force behind it; rough but solid. Still need to get higher than that stupid D4 to be much use in or rock cover band, tho, not a lot of call for this. I wish it was the other way around.
And wow did I get some strange looks from my wife!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is this the subharmonic register or something completely different because I’ve managed to go from E2 to Eb1 with subharmonics but I’m not sure if I’m doing this right.
Thank youuuu
You're welcome!
I have naturally high pitched speaking voice. I can get my voice lower and sing some notes using this kind of training, but then I can't still access them quickly when singing a phrase with that one low note. Guess I have to train more dilligently to be able to do that.
You ever consider doing voice-over work for the next Exorcist movie?
as soon as someone says vocal fry in any of these videos my mind never goes to ways to extend your lower chest voice but in stead to subharmonics
I am 16 and C#2 is comfortable in normal day
Nice!!
0:02 why is there a swastika in the back?
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4:37 sub harmonics slip hahah great
Great tutorial! I think i just hit a C#2 with your method in chest voice, how do i know if it counts as chest and not as fry? Whats the definition of chest notes? How do i hear the difference, is it just that its a consistent note without that raspy fry sound?
Hey Chris! i’ve been running into this problem where i can sing a “La” sound and go pretty high up with it (higher then i thought my voice could go without going into falsetto) but my problem occurrs when i try to sing the lyrics and my voice restricts me and makes this horrible cracking. It’s quite annoying cause i can’t figure out what is doing this!! if you could help that would be great.
Look up my video on how to sing high notes and phrases. That should help :)
Please do Lewis De Jong from Alien Weaponary I think you will love to hear his voice especially on the songs Blinded and Whispers I would love to hear you try their song Kai Tangata as well
Please please love from New Zealand
And also first!!!!
This sounds more like subharmonics. I'm hitting an F1 now, but before i couldnt go below a D2. my normal speaking voice is around A2 or G2, so i guess that was an advantage.
What do you think about Peter Steele from Type O Negative?
Making a video on him right now actually :)
@@chrisliepe Are serious? Hahaha. That deserves my subscription.
@@PEMAMETAL hehe.. yep! Good timing :) Thanks for the sub! The video will prolly go up love later this week or early next week
The problem for me is that my voice is deeper than your lower resonance. Sometimes when I try to do vocal fry, my voice will just sorta let out a sound the equivalent of gas being slowly released from a tube.
Try doing the exercise through a straw and see if limiting that airflow helps you get fry more consistently. Have you tried my free voice course yet?
@@chrisliepe I haven't tried the course yet, also I think it might've been because I was trying to keep my voice down, that and I tried to do it laying down.
@@chrisliepe do remember that very very low pitches won't be that resonant off mic. Even people like Geoff Castellucci have their voice booster at parts just to have those a low AF notes give more oomph
I practiced chest-fry and now i can connect chest and fry well. Is that be a good practice?
Yes!
My range is much closer to Colter Wall, Mark Lanegan, Sven Friedrich, etc., so this was far more comfortable for me. One problem I consistently have is an enhancement of my lisp (broken teeth, twice broken jaw, ah well) which makes everything sound much lazier.
That sounds dope tbh i love lazy sounding low singers it gives you a very bluesy quality like jim morrison and stuff also lisps add character go for it
G2, that's my absolute lowest
I feel like, the more I practice worse I get. When I practice, my voice gets high-pitched and very weak and aired. What should I do?
You should do a reaction video for a Mark Lanegan or Screaming Trees song
Ohhh... Screaming Trees!! That'd would be COOL
When doing this, my throat (vocal chords I assume) hurt. I feel them vibrating so much. What am I doing wrong?
Cool, love ur shit bro!
How to sing like Shaun Morgan from Seether please
Do you listen to skillet chris? Like their song monster?
I really like Skillet!
Im no singer by any means but on my scale my lowest comfortable note is a g1 i thi k my voice is considered tenor its not deep at all. Not siper high either. I picked up sub harmoics almost instantly and after a day i had a small range in subs. Let me know if i can assist in getting there
I hope this works for me, I have a C#2 in chest on a regular day, maybe I could reach a B?
I think so!
I watched a few videos about lower singing and I just discovered I had a really resonant bass range. Guess I'm a bass lol.
Also sidenote* my lower range is way better when I do false cord screams. I hope I'm not doing anything wrong or if that should happen, I don't feel any pain.
As long as you feel like you're getting your engagement above your vocal cords and not below, you're in good shape :)
Can you do an episode on the singer Ronnie Radke from Falling in Reverse and also Escape the fate?
Andy Biersack video Next?
I don’t know my voice type but some day I bottom out at a G2 and some days I bottom out at an F2 lowest I’ve bottomed out at a D2 with fry I’ve bottomed out at at an E1 and chest fry I regularly stop at an A1
Definitely a tenor, likely a high tenor. Speaking of "chest fry" that sounds interesting but i've never really gotten how to do it. I tend to just get into a mix using fry and that opens up bottom range. From there i just growl as heavy as i can and if it works i can get down to G1 or so.
@@muslimmetalman I’m a Robert plant type got it.
@@magmarok8209 thats actually right on the money
@@magmarok8209 that guy doesnt know what he is talking about he is bullshitting
If you are a young man like 14 or so then you are most likely a Baritone maybe a bass in the future.
If you bottom consistently at E2 or lower definately a Bass
Now if you can hit easily A4s yeah that would make u a tenor but G2s for an untrained tenor is pretty extreme
@@somekindofdude1130 after starting vocal training I regularly bottom out at Eb2 with resonance and C2 Db2 a good bit weaker. B1 and Bb1 are there but not good sounding or inviting. But I prefer to use subharmonics and chest fry for anything lower than an F2 since I really sound best from G2 to C5 and I’m most resonant from F2 to C4 I can get up there though. Around G5 Ab5 with the occasional Bb5 squeak. But I’m training in the basics right now.
Not sure if you'll even see this, but I just went through puberty a few months ago (13yo) and I got through my fry phase, now my lowest note before slipping into strohbass / something like chest-fry and losing a bit of my resonance is C#2 / Mid C2 on a good day, and I can work to a pretty mediocre subharmonic F1 (Just started learning them, it's very fun to use and to hear progress), and fry into a low and clear E1, and (not sure if this one counts) a low Db1 with a lot of airy overtones that doesn't really get picked up as a low note on any pitch recording software and I can only measure it on a piano (I know for a fact it's not a D4 though so I don't know yet how those softwares work). I don't know if this is hurting my voice or not, but if anyone has anything to say I'd be glad to listen and take your advice.
PS: i have no idea what i am doing so any suggestions on where to go from here would be amazing aswell.
If you feel good while doing it, you're not causing any damage. STOP if pain does become a thing. Working with lower notes with proper airflow and support rarely causes any discomfort! Enjoy the new phase of the journey!
@@chrisliepe Thank you for the advice!
Update: either my vocal cords are tired from yesterday or my brain just decided to turn me from toilet-monster into a sewer monster, I'm now able to full-voice a low A1, maybe even pop into a G#1 and a G1 for a bit.
will also post updates on how this goes 'cause this is too much fun.
I only get fry when I inhale.
Do you breathe in or out? thx
OUT... at least for now :)
@@chrisliepe man i love u :) I will work on this
What do you think of subharmonic singing?
It's pretty cool... haven't experimented with it too much myself though yet :)
When I'm inhaling I can sing a few semitones lower than when I'm singing normally. It's weird
Bro you have to react to sinful passion by Dimash!!
What's the mic you're using? Is it too expensive? 🙈
Mojave MA 300... It's not too bad. They make great mics starting around $300
@@chrisliepe Sounds great man. Thanks for answering me. Already suscribed to your free course. Going to try to follow as much as i can.
For me comfort low note is A#2. But when im sick, i can sing D2, C2, B1 :(
Honestly I wouldn't mind having morning voice or sick voice all the time with the extra notes I get 😂
Hi, what is the references of your microphone ? thank's ;-)
Mojave MA300s
@@chrisliepe Thank's ok i see! the price is nice too ... so i can understand why your sound is nice ;-)