scythe vs weed trimmer

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  • @matthewrydl7209
    @matthewrydl7209 6 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    That scythe is too short for you. A proper scythe you should be able to stand straight, with the heel of the scythe resting that on the ground. Let the heel of the scythe guide the cut as supposed to and just let the tool do the work. The heel of the scythe will place it at the proper height and allow it to glide over rocks and stumps.

    • @angelkitty132
      @angelkitty132 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      The Scythe also wasn't sharp enough, the weed wacker did a better job.

    • @angelkitty132
      @angelkitty132 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      he said " if youll notice (the weed wacker) does a better job closer to the ground".... sir.... that is because you don't know wtf you are doing... I have scythe weeded before, I have owned and used a scythe... when you buy the right size one, and you maintain it like your supposed to, I guarantee you will cut grass just as low to the ground as a weed wacker.

    • @69beowulf96
      @69beowulf96 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That exactly what I wanted to say.

    • @williamlong8859
      @williamlong8859 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@angelkitty132 Thank you, after the correct sized tool, form and technique is everything. Scythe cut not only can be much closer to the ground, but would be if done with correct tool and technique. Dure will also take practice.

    • @willdwyer6782
      @willdwyer6782 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      With an American scythe you have to squat a little bit. With an Austrian scythe you don't.

  • @Frontdesk_tragedy
    @Frontdesk_tragedy 6 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    "Not in the best shape..." dude looks pretty good from where I'm sitting

    • @guitardaddy6
      @guitardaddy6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That's because you are fat

    • @andrewjin6618
      @andrewjin6618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@guitardaddy6 damn, straight to the point. I like that

    • @yolk5377
      @yolk5377 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@andrewjin6618 pretty sure he's not straight to the point
      just an asshole

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@yolk5377 Straight to the asshole

    • @Wisp58
      @Wisp58 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yolk5377 yea

  • @84greenbear
    @84greenbear 6 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    I was taught to have the heel of the scythe and the tip of the blade to be as close to the ground as possible and use a twisting motion of your torso. It's very important to have a very sharp blade and to have the scythe adjusted to your body correctly so you don't slouch over. If you don't adjust it right your back will let you know. Very loudly! Especially the next day haha!

    • @garagebandbeatsandsuch4808
      @garagebandbeatsandsuch4808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      84GreenBear exactly

    • @flynick
      @flynick ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Another nice thing about the scythe is that your neighbor won't wake you up at some ungodly hour on a Saturday morning

  • @wayneguccione1482
    @wayneguccione1482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Also the scythe will NEVER leave microplastics! Began using a string trimmer and stumbled upon the enviromental impact and got rid of it. I read about a biodegradable string, which takes ~ 10 years to decompose but still decided against string trimmers. Also, most gas ones pollute MUCH more than a car.

    • @ChanceHolland-eo3yj
      @ChanceHolland-eo3yj 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I still use a weed eater a 2 stroke and it 31 years old I think now still runs good tanaka

  • @resiin_5713
    @resiin_5713 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "I learnt how to use it from an old guy" lol. Classic

  • @FortyTwoBlades
    @FortyTwoBlades 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Looks like you could stand to mess around with your nib (side grip) positions and you may need your tang angle adjusted and your edge ground thinner. In dry grass like that having a toothy edge from a coarse stone helps a lot to keep the stalks from slipping off the edge. The edge should only be about 7° per side--VERY thin.

  • @flintlockDave
    @flintlockDave 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many times I had to use one of these in the field on my Grandfather's farm great video

  • @fredrickdakine
    @fredrickdakine 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, thanks for the compare! Many others pointed out errors in scythe sizing and body mechanics when it's used here.. I think this may be the reason you ended up with so much uncut hay. Because the blade was at too much of an angle, it didn't skim along the ground cutting everything in it's path; instead it angled upwards creating diagonal slashes through the grass. Definitely the kind of mistake I could see myself making.. hopefully I'll be able to correct it having watched these videos :-)

  • @peterwilliamson4296
    @peterwilliamson4296 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this clip and the "can do it" attitude. Thank you sir.

  • @moralesmonster5724
    @moralesmonster5724 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You can always trust somebody with a weed tattoo on there chest lmao 😂

  • @kathleenisabellastanford6861
    @kathleenisabellastanford6861 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super informative! Thank you so much for making this video!

  • @WJCTechyman
    @WJCTechyman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was fascinating. I wonder if you would get a better result for length from a brush cutter instead of a line trimmer. I used a brush cutter and it doesn't seem to mulch the grass quite as much as a line trimmer.

  • @billmcyrus
    @billmcyrus 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm wondering how well the scythe would do on denser weeds. My weed eater is terrible right now and am thinking of replacing it with a scythe, wondering if I'd even have to forge my own to get one.

  • @lordgundorofherdoren1368
    @lordgundorofherdoren1368 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Nice to know that someone still uses scythe and i finally saw it in work.

    • @shanewickline2216
      @shanewickline2216 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you saw it in use poorly, he's very clueless on how it actually works

    • @callmenorman631
      @callmenorman631 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheArcWelder ?

  • @aguilayserpiente
    @aguilayserpiente 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thoughtful instruction. Muscle power is calorically more efficient than gasoline power as you demonstrated.

  • @Max_Le_Groom
    @Max_Le_Groom 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    His voice sounds so mellow and cheery.

  • @MtnBadger
    @MtnBadger 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In fact, Scythe supply has TH-cam videos including one about mowing a lawn with a scythe and it's by an old man (owner, I believe) and the part he mows is super even and short and he talks through the whole thing. It's the right tool and technique that is the secret. Get a European scythe.
    Happy mowing. :)

  • @theeddorian
    @theeddorian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You have that scythe too far off the ground for a good cut. I put myself through junior college mowing firebreaks with scythe just like yours. I cleared the break to about 1/2 inch above the ground. I let the heel rest lightly on the ground and and swept in a circular motion, standing pretty well up right. The scythe is a great tool and thanks for showing this. The weed whacker is also noisy, dusty, and costs money to operate.

  • @Slic_Nuts
    @Slic_Nuts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wicked beard. how long have you been growing it out?

  • @teeqo1576
    @teeqo1576 6 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    But does he have the skulltrooper?

  • @andrewvanderpool5082
    @andrewvanderpool5082 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What scythe does he use to mow his hemp field though?

  • @nigelcarren
    @nigelcarren 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    ZZ top at the weekend. LOVE IT ! Altogether now: "He got legs, mind you don't lose them, because this is SHARP etc"

  • @Max_Le_Groom
    @Max_Le_Groom 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which hay is better for mulch though?

  • @albinfiskare
    @albinfiskare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    damn good effort, but when i learned to swing the scythe i could get far closer to the gound than with a weedwhacker/trimmer. Also you get a much cleaner cut with the scythe (better for hay AND biodiversity in the long term)

  • @michalismaloney7951
    @michalismaloney7951 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Loving the tat man, Smoke Your's

    • @autismchild1049
      @autismchild1049 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He had a joint in a bottle in an other video

  • @nadigai
    @nadigai 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved my brushcutter!

  • @Boc3phu5
    @Boc3phu5 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long is the blade on that scythe?

  • @nobody_8_1
    @nobody_8_1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank-you for this informative youtube video 👍

  • @ChrisMartinez-py7mv
    @ChrisMartinez-py7mv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video buddy!

  • @steveh1551
    @steveh1551 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Scythe mowing is super beneficial in so many ways

  • @geraldofabianoartes3074
    @geraldofabianoartes3074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfeito. Parabéns pelo trabalho. Grande abraço. Brasil

  • @kostasberetzikis3297
    @kostasberetzikis3297 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Καλά τα λες μεγάλε .Στην Ελλάδα όμως έχουμε πολλές πέτρες μέσα στα λιβάδια και το δρεπάνι όλο χτυπάει. (GR)

  • @swimeride
    @swimeride 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have blade but where would I find a new handle for it?

    • @BBQDad463
      @BBQDad463 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Find an area where there are many farms. Locate the agricultural supply store. Hereabouts, it is "Tractor Supply." They should have snaths. You will also need a whetstone, a ball peen hammer, and a scythe anvil.
      The edge of the blade must be peened before use. Touch it up throughout the day with the whetstone.
      You can find lots of information on the scythe online.

  • @p1stolp.521
    @p1stolp.521 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the scythe look's like therapy to me...

  • @4Fecta
    @4Fecta 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video! Thanks man

  • @Reish1
    @Reish1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a scythe but its a giant harvest scythe so i can barely hold it

  • @haymaker299
    @haymaker299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another advantage of the less-shredded hay, besides the bigger volume, is that the nutrition is better captured. As books on haymaking explain (go read them if you want references), the more you knock the leaves off the hay while processing it, the poorer the nutritive value conveyed to the livestock. Not that the nutrition drops to zero (it doesn't), but it can be reduced by quarter or half. The commenter who chastised the presenter about the shredded hay being better for the animal is not as informed as he imagines himself to be. This video is useful, regardless of anyone's whining about the details of his technique or snath position adjustment.

  • @sebass9578
    @sebass9578 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So this is where TH-cam recommend me at 3am

  • @tallcedars2310
    @tallcedars2310 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to learn the old ways for sure. We might be taken back to the old ways if things keep going the way they are with price and technology. Normal farmers can barely afford farm machinery even now. This makes me think that we are being forced out of farming so we are reliant on corporate harvesting only. But tools like the scythe are still being made and sold so buying one now for the fun of it, might keep one ahead of that game.

  • @TheSmileyTek
    @TheSmileyTek 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got the exact same Husqvarna weed trimmer

  • @kiwizkiwiz6639
    @kiwizkiwiz6639 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make more informational videos on wheat please

  • @nickmeyer3101
    @nickmeyer3101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Out here on the farm" sounds like somebody has never seen a farm lmao 🤣

  • @woblobsterbeatboxer5124
    @woblobsterbeatboxer5124 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much

  • @marthacarrigan8349
    @marthacarrigan8349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Done properly with the scythe! And your body shows the benefits of doing the work right. ; >

    • @andrews4596
      @andrews4596 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet he can get real fit with that hand scyth

  • @pigeonsmlgsus9784
    @pigeonsmlgsus9784 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hay, that's pretty interesting.

  • @UnsterblicheKonig
    @UnsterblicheKonig 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's an easier way. And there's a way that keeps your body looking like that. Keep doing what you do brother.

  • @ikrdude5417
    @ikrdude5417 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your chest tattoo dude.

  • @draven3838
    @draven3838 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sharpness counts with a syth,you've got to have it really sharp in order to do a good job of haying

  • @captnhowdy01able
    @captnhowdy01able 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You need a handle built to your height and arm reach, you are supposed to keep the blade low as possible to the ground to where the whole blade glides across the ground. And your only movement is in the torso area.

  • @lauraswan8647
    @lauraswan8647 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like a weed trimmer

  • @1rewd133
    @1rewd133 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're making my back hurt just watching. You need a longer/larger scythe so that you're upright.
    Digging the cleome tattoo ;)

  • @bradentyler7183
    @bradentyler7183 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    But is he a purple skully

  • @johnhurtme
    @johnhurtme ปีที่แล้ว

    If a scythe is set right, the cup that the bottom of the blade makes is always in contact with the ground. If it is sharp and the handle is set right, there's no knees involved it's all twist and step.

  • @mkg1079
    @mkg1079 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much are you willing to well this account for?

  • @joelgerard7869
    @joelgerard7869 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greg - you're ripped, bro.

  • @Aaron.Reichert
    @Aaron.Reichert 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    They both have their niche. Each is better at its own job.

  • @zg2964
    @zg2964 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have no idea why TH-cam is recommending scythes to me but i never knew they were this effective. Makes me want to buy one to freak out my neighbors.

  • @GodfreyEnjoyer1
    @GodfreyEnjoyer1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really love it that the comment section has some professional scythe user. TH-cam is great :D

  • @mattquellobello
    @mattquellobello 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The new Jiro's skin look really real

  • @lukewarmwater6412
    @lukewarmwater6412 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am pretty good with a weed trimmer, but the sythe did a better job just as fast or faster... where can I get one?

    • @wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695
      @wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lehman's selles them

    • @lukewarmwater6412
      @lukewarmwater6412 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ....>

    • @wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695
      @wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luke Warmwater it's www.lehmans.com

    • @ryc3rz
      @ryc3rz 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      try scythesupply.com and get a European style scythe. Watch some videos about it and you'll see how much superior it is to the English style scythe in this video. Generally speaking European(Austrian) style scythe is much lighter and easier to use.

    • @lukewarmwater6412
      @lukewarmwater6412 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am lazy, I am cheap, I have a small area. thanks for the advise.my yard is flat and smooth, and this seems like the way to go two, three times a year when it is tall enough to be dryed and used for feed or stuff.

  • @ratfinkron5793
    @ratfinkron5793 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol love the cannabis leaf tat

  • @andywiththeskills
    @andywiththeskills 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is why the grim reaper carries a sycthe

  • @carlosmarcosportocarrerogu8434
    @carlosmarcosportocarrerogu8434 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hola saludos desde Perú hermosa herramienta

  • @geraldofabianoartes3074
    @geraldofabianoartes3074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magnífica parabéns pelo trabalho. Grande abraço Brasil

  • @carmenherrera9158
    @carmenherrera9158 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video

  • @kerronmcsween6095
    @kerronmcsween6095 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could get one

  • @binyamina8850
    @binyamina8850 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do I feel like this guy has a hidden weed farm

  • @tikonderoga1271
    @tikonderoga1271 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Clicked on the video for the awesome body stayed for interesting knowledge.

  • @j0n314
    @j0n314 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    you can't even use the scythe, it does a better job than the weed trimmer if you can use it

  • @karimfersi3898
    @karimfersi3898 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    How much for the account

    • @andrews4596
      @andrews4596 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      6 bales of hay

    • @cawssy7922
      @cawssy7922 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eisal Mazard 25 feet

    • @andrews4596
      @andrews4596 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hide the pin in your hay bail, the children will look all afternoon 🤠👍

    • @andrews4596
      @andrews4596 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hide a sharp pin in your hay bail, the children will be looking all afternoon 🤠👍

    • @olddeadaccount2901
      @olddeadaccount2901 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      LMAOOO

  • @TheKFCManager
    @TheKFCManager 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool chest tat mate

  • @paulkazjack
    @paulkazjack 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good on him. Shame there's not more like him.

  • @curranjohnson7489
    @curranjohnson7489 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My man holds the sweet cheeba close to his heart

  • @obamagaming3654
    @obamagaming3654 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    so use the sythe and then get the weed after that use the weed thingy to cut off the excess

  • @stanwebb2272
    @stanwebb2272 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On the Scythe you need to move the handles up a few inches on it to meet your body portions!!! You will kill your lower back and get no work done the second day because of it!!!!

  • @misteranonym4067
    @misteranonym4067 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe I have a tip. If you 1.) harden (hammering) and 2.) sharpen it very well and 3.) cut the green grass --> you can also cut it to the ground with less effort ;)

  • @radamanthys_0154
    @radamanthys_0154 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "It always comes to the Hunter's helpers to clean up in these sort of messes"

  • @paulwalter3562
    @paulwalter3562 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Here in Romania, almost every household has one.

    • @gregpryorhomestead
      @gregpryorhomestead  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wish I had a European scythe! This one is an old American model for heavy brush. It's also for a smaller person. Your scythe technology is gorgeous!

  • @williamajthompson9166
    @williamajthompson9166 ปีที่แล้ว

    To be fair though. I would have that knocked down quicker and better cut with a trimmer. A couple things calculate in to the efficiency of a trimmer. The brand, what is their engine tech like, what kind of head are you using, brush cutters can be built to have discbine type heads on them that allow for proper heavy weed cutting while not leaving plastic fibers behind.
    Those type of commercial type units will be better suited to make hay on a better budget.
    Then you can get a power head and power scythe. Which is a hedge trimmer attachment for speed cutting field growth areas like around water ways. Get a bike handle power head with harness. Hit the trigger and walk along your paths. Come in up to 26 inch length units. Can make hay pretty quickly without the need of a tractor.

  • @timr5174
    @timr5174 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    tractor and a cycle cutter works wonders for hay fields

  • @poolsidemike1
    @poolsidemike1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anybody hear the bigfoot calls in the backround?

  • @zandiskoul
    @zandiskoul 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Get a sized scythe so you can do a wider rotation and double your clearing potential

  • @iiNekoMattyii
    @iiNekoMattyii 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    that weed trimmer sounded like the ghosts from luigis mansion on 3ds

  • @PHDinTHC-OG
    @PHDinTHC-OG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the old folks know what they were doing hay bro

  • @Kylesmith-qc1bx
    @Kylesmith-qc1bx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    This man doesnt know how to use a scythe or even a hay fork

    • @qazmatron
      @qazmatron 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      For great scything technique: th-cam.com/video/VVn1kiZnldQ/w-d-xo.htmlm50s

    • @Flosem1
      @Flosem1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed.

    • @vic8268
      @vic8268 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You mean a pitch fork?

    • @triumphant39
      @triumphant39 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Well, he's trying. Can you start off as a master, or does it take a while to get there?

    • @Ironbuket
      @Ironbuket 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The scythe is too small for him as well. Even if he knew the technique he would injure himself contorting in to the position to get the blade on the ground for the entire sweep

  • @shipmastershadowofintent5249
    @shipmastershadowofintent5249 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I much prefer a scythe . No loud motorized noise. I keep in shape and honestly I'm just not up for buying gas or buying new parts . When a scythe handle will last over a life time . The blade will need sharpening but that's it

  • @vuelee5313
    @vuelee5313 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool tattoo

  • @HammadAhmed.
    @HammadAhmed. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    1:30 Normal people, 1:38 Tfue.

    • @starkstark4186
      @starkstark4186 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fortnites gay

    • @vampya
      @vampya 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@starkstark4186 chill out I know everyone plays forntite and you want to be a cool kid but no need to cry online about people making jokes about it

  • @DrWondertainment821
    @DrWondertainment821 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The other nice thing is that a scythe won't leave you with that vibration tingle.

  • @T3t4nu5
    @T3t4nu5 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's also a good workout

  • @jdogg661420
    @jdogg661420 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    get a custom european one made for your height and arm length practice proper technique and you wont be gassed your back wont hurt its super simple and you can actually cut a lot more then you did. you have like a half stroke going on so you could actually get twice as much grass as that in same amount of time. proper technique is more moving your full body and not so much your arms.. and you basically twist farther around each way.. but ya

  • @foxesdreamofelectricsheepi1505
    @foxesdreamofelectricsheepi1505 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    haha youre the king of reaping mate, "not in my best shape" :D

  • @carlosayala6754
    @carlosayala6754 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you need a longer handle

  • @hielokasama5574
    @hielokasama5574 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Based on preference

  • @songsabai3794
    @songsabai3794 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Each tool has their own use.

  • @user-dk7su3lp6e
    @user-dk7su3lp6e ปีที่แล้ว

    the sound of the trimmer in ff though lololol

  • @Whisperingwhispp
    @Whisperingwhispp 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys can we stop being so mean to this guy he is showing us something he is nice, So can we be nice

  • @BonkMachine
    @BonkMachine 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who needs a gym when you have a scythe!

  • @JoelWetzel
    @JoelWetzel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need/want something that requires less space to swing for cutting grass in my mom's overly ornamented yards. I'm having to use a hedge trimming scissor tool while on my knees to get in all the areas too small for the gas mower. If it were up to me there'd be gravel everywhere and so no threat of the city getting up in our business.

  • @sierrabravo2420
    @sierrabravo2420 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where bouts in SC are you? I live in the Pee Dee. Really liking your channel.

    • @gregpryorhomestead
      @gregpryorhomestead  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Near Florence.

    • @sierrabravo2420
      @sierrabravo2420 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      gregpryorhomestead Nichols here. By chance do you know any herpers who'd come take my Copperheads away? I've had 7 in one year.

    • @sierrabravo2420
      @sierrabravo2420 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      gregpryorhomestead How do you make a snake trap? I don't want to kill them.