I do love the darkmoon we get in elden ring, but nothing will ever compare to the old hunters, release week, everyone online losing their minds over the Ludwig fight and then that masterpiece of a transition to phase 2 with the music and the sword reveal And the weapon itself is great, too
@@granthefato340also lorewise would technically be the most powerful as you are gifted the moonlight greatsword by a very powerful being,and the sword itself is extremely powerful and also has very special significance
Played a pure INT character and as much as I love the spells in ER I used nothing but the DMGS for like 50 levels after I got it. It trivializes most fights in the game.
For me I feel as though the moonlight from elden ring feels like the least sigificant/legendary. It’s got like 2 lines of lore and nothing else. Every other souls rendition of the moonlight greatsword makes it feel like a big deal.
also the fact that the elden ring version basically has just 1 attack animation with no variety is such a disappointment. i know its op but i got bored so fast with it
8:38 it’s is called DARK MOON because it’s from Ranni. She represents the dark moon and Rennala represents the full moon. I bet the GS Rennala gave Radagon was called Moonlight GS. but it was transformed into golden order GS so we may never know. E: GoldenOrderGS - “Telltale signs betray that this was once the greatsword bequeathed to him by his first wife, Rennala.”
@@2bizzystu868 neither are bloodborne and dark souls, or even armored core. The moolight greatsword is just the fromsoft signature item they put it in every game they make
In the world of Demon's Souls it makes sense for it to scale off faith because the old one is the source of both faith and magic. It illustrates the contradictory nature of the world that most people of the world don't realize.
The moonlight great sword is different in Elden Ring because it’s not the moonlight great sword at all, it’s the darkmoon great sword which gives off frost instead of magic. The original moonlight great sword was turned into the golden order great sword by Radagon.
Recently i did another bloodborne playthrough with a heavy focus on farming the best gems in chalice dungeons, and the moonlight sword does crazy damage when fully beefed up. One of my favorite weapons
Yepp and a lot of people miss out on the weapon variants (like lost) that can get you different gem slots so you can build around beam damage, thrusts when in not transformed, etc..
Even without farming chalices the sword does insane damage. The secret to maximising its potential is not going pure Arcane. My AR was around 689 before the DLC and I don't farm for blood gems and all the gems I have on it were naturally acquired in the base game. Had 30 Str, 20 Skl and 32 Arc.
People tend to compare it to LHB since you'll get higher damage earlier but by the time soft caps start rolling in, the multi-stat scaling of HMS will surpass it.
It's super good, and each attack is amazing against certain enemies. Need pure physical? Non transformed. Want to do the max amount of damage possible? Full charged attack, both the beam, and blade deal damage. Need to blast an enemy into their back? L2.
Technically not a weapon, but true, that sorcery imo is 10x more useful than the Moonlight GS itself. I almost never use Moonlight GS, but I constantly use Old Moonlight.
I really love specifically how the ML sword fits into the lore for the top 2 here. The Moonlight Greatsword usually does have some good lore don't get me wrong, but specifically ER and BB's swords are best to me story-wise. In Elden Ring, there are implied to actually be multiple MLGS that are given out by the Carian Royal Family as marriage gifts. The Golden Order Greatsword was actually a MLGS itself (presumably the Full Moon Greatsword) that Radagon got from Rennala and forged into a golden faith based sword instead. And as such, the time we get the Dark Moon Greatsword for ourselves, from becoming the consort of the Dark Moon Carian, fits well with everything else we know, and also feels like a serious occasion given how long of a questline you actually have to go through to get to this point with Ranni. And in Bloodborne, sure it's a boss drop, which doesn't make it too different from the variants of it transfused from Boss Souls, but it's different in the lore relevance that this is *Ludwig's* greatsword, one that was so legendary it spawned imitators (that you can actually find for yourself!) and he even uses it in the fight once he goes from beast back to man. It's not just "one of Seathe's weird experiments stuck to his ass for some reason, or "this was seathes at some point and now it's yours," or "we found it being eaten by slugs in a poison swamp lmao." It feels like a genuine boss weapon because it's the weapon genuinely used by that boss. It makes it one of the most iconic MLGS in the series in my opinion, (alongside Demon Souls obviously just because Demon Souls has the sheer badass factor.) Really, they both feel like *reveals* when you see them, as opposed to "oh shit, it's the funny sword." It feels like you genuinely put in the work, and *found* them, and they feel like meaningful rewards for the obscure and optional work put in to get them.
I agree. Moonlight is incredibly important to the story of King's Field, being one of the two Dragon Swords (Other being Dark Slayer) designed if not actually created by Seathe (Kings Field Seathe, not DS Seathe) and Guyra, to kill each other and try to take over each other's domain. Moonlight is tied to Guyra, and is the strongest weapon in the those games. As such, you only get to use it for like...5 minutes in each game, but you can feel something so special about Moonlight in those 5 minutes. Souls 1-3 just drop in the game somewhere like a piece of shit. I love the BB and Elden Ring variants just because they felt legendary again, they felt important.FROMSOFT really outdid themselves with those 2 games specifically.
To be more fair on Demon's Souls, you find it being eaten by slugs presumably because that was the fate of Moonlight Knight Vito - the owner of the sword. Him being in Valley of Defilement specifically also makes a lot of sense, given Astrae's residence there.
5:50 I hear what you’re saying but I like that it’s a faith weapon just to beef up the faith path otherwise it would be pretty barren so it had to be a faith weapon in this game given how much more thing magic users have to play with
in dark souls 1 there is an extra durability ring, and you can repair stuff at your bonfire if you buy the powder kit (tho it consumes souls and you need to go through every item one by one manually which is annoying)
The Bloodborne version is my favorite, too. Aesthetically, I’m not a fan of how wide the moonlights tend to be, so being able to swap between the narrower steel blade and the wider magic blade was very nice.
in Bloodborne, not only is the animation fantastic, but the sound! THE SOUND! I loved that weapon and was tragically disappointed when the Elden Ring variant was lame.
The ER Moonveil is a variant of the Fromsoftware Moonlight. It hasn't always been a greatsword; it's also been a thin, gas powered blade in older Armored Cores.
5:32 the source of magic and miracles in DeS is the same, the only difference is one is from knowledge and research and the other is faith. It was wielded by one who went the faith route so I think it's cool and makes a lot of sense here 👀
You forgot the golden order gs from er, I know it's kinda different, but it's stated to actually be the mlgs but it also does holy damage, and holy damage has been done with the mlgs before (aka demon's souls)
When Dark Souls 2 released you used to be able to cast Crystal Weapon on the Moonlight GS. And since the magic buffs in DS2 scale off of elemental damage, that thing used would hit like a TRUCK
Great video, thanks for the info/insight. I legit just started a run like this of all games and after only equipping it in DS1 I already scratched that game off my list. The ranking in my head was the same as this video (before watching it)!
It's definitely between the HMS and the DG for me. I love the HMS for the transformation and moveset. I love the DG for the frost status and the free projectiles after the buff. And you get them as a reward for either beating one of the best bosses or completing one of the best questlines.
I actually like how the darkmoon stands out amongst the other moonlight greatswords. Helps it feel fresh; after so many years of it being pretty much the same.
I think you forgot about the repair sorcery in ds1, so you basically have infinite uses of the heavy attack if you have that. Sorcery, intelligence, and moonlight great sword go very well together
@@_BBAGG_ ok but if you're using a sorcery build you'll have plenty of sorceries to deal damage with at your disposal. But yeah ig for Mgs only run, it isn't extremely helpful, but at least it's something
I think the Elden Ring one is the best. If you are close enough and do a heavy attack, the sword itself and the projectile will connect, dealing insane damage. The only problem I have with it is that I like faith builds more because they are more versatile.
The reason why the moonlight greatsword does magic damage is because magic damage has the same source: the Old One, the magic, though, is shaped differently, and you can see that when you need to face the final boss, Sage Freke and Saint Urbain have a completely different interpretation of the Old One if spoken to. PVE wise, I think it’s fine, its magic damage in DeS isn’t resisted by everyone like in DS1, and it’s much better than fire damage resistance wise.
In fact, there is a ring that increases the durability of weapons in Dark souls 1, Shiva of the east sells it in Blighttown after talking to him in the Dark woods garden
I’ve done this! My ranking is pretty much the exact same… but my nostalgia REALLY favors the DeS version. It feels like that’s the Faith answer to offense. I did a similar run earlier in 2023 where I played the Lucerne in every game. Mirdan Hammer in DeS and Church Pick in Bloodborne (a reach, I know). While it got VERY repetitive, I had a great time with it. Elden Ring’s was my favorite just because of the variety of Ashes of War. These runs are really cool, seeing how long-standing weapons change, or what they retain.
I'm sure someone has pointed this out already so I'm probably just being annoying but in Dark Souls 1 there is a shopkeeper in Undead Burg near the ladder bonfire down a flight of stairs in the tower where the two spear hollows are near the bonfire that sells a repair box for 1,000-10,000 (i dont remember how much) souls that unlocks the ability to repair your weapons and armor when resting at a bonfire. don't know if you knew this but you do now!
DS2's MLGS is being slept on hard, especially when you compare it on the PvP side of the game, which easily puts it in the top 3 of the Soulsborne series. Unlike the others, you can actually Enchant DS2's MLGS for pure physical damage, allowing it to completely bypass Great Magic Barrier and other creature's Magic resistance. While the beam deals no damage, it makes for an excellent bluff in PvP. DS2 has a very generous cancel window when it comes to cancelling attacks, which allows users to create various feints. It's the only MLGS that can parry. The only real downside to DS2's blade design is that the blade is opaque rather than translucent, which makes it look more bland compared to other versions. While the MLGS in DS2 has a decent Strength and Dexterity requirement, DS2 is also the only game to have armors that have stat requirements, so it's only a minor inconvenience in the long run.
Fun fact about the elden ring moonlight greatsword. There is technically 2. The way I see it the Darkmoon is the 2nd iteration created for Ranni to give to her husband after the original moonlight greatsword which was given to Radagon by Renalla got reforged into the golden order greatsword after he left her.
Not really. Sekiro is really disconnected from the usual Soulsborn stuff, so it doesn't have a Moonlight. If the Divine Dragon's blade is compared to anything, it would be Storm Ruler, since the Dragon's swings launch blades of wind.
@@Erick-ue6fh no, Miyazaki literally said in an interview that the Moonlight Greatsword wouldn't be in Sekiro. The Divine Dragon's Seven Branched Sword's glow is at best a mild reference, but it also launches waves of wind like Stormruler, not Moonlight.
The Bloodborne one just for me is just so unique to me that one time I started a new play just to kill Ludwig early (pain in the ass but did it) so that i could play the entire game with it.
Quick corrections on the ds1 moonlight greatsword, you can repair the sword at the bonfire if you bought the repair box from Andre (and a couple other merchants and/or blacksmiths). There's the wood grain ring which lowers the durability loss on weapons; however I don't remember if that actually affects the moonlight projectile's durability cost
I can't believe people deny it purely because it has a branched sword shape. Like yeah it does, but I don't see how that would disqualify it at all, the MLGS has a different shape and form in every game
In DS1 you can buy the Repairbox, which does allow you to repair weapons and armor at a bonfire so you don't have to return to a blacksmith as you stated.
You actually can repair at a bonfire in DS1/R. But you need the repair box sold to you from Andre and then can repair weapons and armor at any bonfire with an additional option.
@@youwy still incorrect information that you HAVE to go to a blacksmith just to repair the weapon when the option to repair is available at the bonfire, even if it isn't just resting at it.
Ludwig is the only boss that use the moonlight greatsword and this is why ludwig is one of the best fromsoft boss but he is not my favorite fight in bloodborne
I don't get why so many people say that, it so clearly isn't Moonlight, literally the only connection is the glow, and it isn't the right color. In all the fantasy games Moonlight is a heavy western style greatsword that glows blue, and launches waves of moonlight. The Divine Dragon's Seven Branched Sword literally is none of that, it's green, is a Seven Branched Sword rather than Greatsword, and launches wind like Stormruler, rather than Moonlight. Also Miyazaki literally said in an interview there wasn't gonna be a Moonlight Greatsword in Sekiro. At best the glow is a mild reference, but that's still a hard sell when glowing blades are just cool and super common in fantasy.
The answer is king's field 3. No contest is regens your mp and hp and it's sword magic is broken op. But also the mlgs has a counterpart in elden ring golden order greatsword.
Happy to see the DS3 Moonlight at 3 at least I was super confused too. When people were saying it’s terrible. I think people get so caught up on the scaling being B. When it’s base stats are pretty high. With the Magic Clutch Ring and Dusk Crown you can get an AR of 670+. I was chucking bosses for 1200-1600 HP off of two R2’s or L2’s. Another benefit of the L2 similar to Bloodborne’s is against normal mobs. Many times it will cause them to fall on their back.
The Faith scaling is a super deeplore thing. There's actually a talisman that lets you cast sorceries and miracles. It depicts the great old one and explicitly states that miracles and soul arts are fundamentally one and the same. (A theme Fromsoft revisits in Elden Ring with Radagon)
I just acquired my first moonlight GS (ever) in Elden Ring. Having on,y completed DS1 and 3 before this, I’m still a noob to FromSoft games but I’m psyched to finally have this iconic weapon in my arsenal. Also I think Ranni’s quest line was pretty cool. Thanks for the video!
Amazing video. I have a level 500+ character in blood-borne and the Moonlight great swords endgame scaling is among the best in the whole game, really only out done by Ludwick Holy blade. Its DPS, even with an unoptimised build A.k.a. 27.5 physical damage upgrades gems instead of arcane gems is still pretty insane.
Feel like the one in ER came up short... dedicating an entire button to the charge up and only giving it one special attack just felt underwhelming compared to previous versions.
Actually the Holy Moonlight Sword is one of the strongest weapons in Bloodborne, they just made the damage scaling weird. Even though it has A in Arcane, B for Strength, & C for Skill when fully upgraded, it gets the most damage from STR > Skill > Arcane
I think Elden Rings MLGS is the best because the cost:benefit ration for it is insane. For a small bit of FP you get an absolute BEAST of a weapon. Frost damage is a powerful status in ER as said in the video, lowers defenses, increases stamina usage (PvP), burst damage every time it procs (like bleed), and can be reset with fire damage (I’m sorry Rusty). The benefits this weapon gives off of such little FP (in comparison to your average FP bar) is insane and is why imo it’s the best version of the weapon.
we need the ultimate moonlight, using pure int scaling/requirements, having long range projectiles that track well, can aim upward, can be altered at a blacksmith, especially to gain S scaling, gets a wide variety of moves for its beams, has a cold status effect and doesnt eat up durability, just magic/ammo (also cant forget the teal color)
For some reason, the moonlight blade (BB) scales better with strength than arcane. I would use it on a build with 50 str, 25 dex and 25 arc, or 50 arc if you're planning to go to 150.
Dark moon is that colour because its literally tied to ranni's darkmoon which shares the same colour, which in my opinion looks nicer and way more special anyway. i dont understand the confusion. also bb's moonlight is probably the least satisfying one to use outside of spamming stance lmao
8:32 it´s the Dark Moonlight Greatsword, because Ranni rebuild the moonlightgreatsword she got from her mother, the same thing Radagon did with the Golden Order Greatsword (which makes it a Moonlight Greatsword too)
MOONLIGHT-07 (ACfA) is one of two non-blue laser blades in the game. in the Moonlight's case, it's purple; the other non-blue is the Dragonfang from Rayleonard.
I agree with this ranking entirely. If the MOONLIGHT in the Armored Core series was included, then I'd put it in 2nd or 3rd place, because overall, it's been the best laser blade in the series. If the Moonlight Sword from King's Field was included, I'd put it in 1st place, because it's always the best weapon in every King's Field game (except King's Field II), it plays an important role in the series, and it's the original Moonlight weapon.
I think the Dark Moon Greatsword is a good design because its a twist on the traditional Moonlight Greatsword. The blade also has a really awesome texture and the frostbite effect is thematically really cool and suits Ranni's nature
I completely understand not wanting to do the armored core series that game is very reliant on combos and if you just had a moonlight would be a pain the ass
Fun fact about the ER Moonlight great sword, the reason it's the "Darkmoon" great sword is because the original Moonlight great sword is the one given to Radagon in marriage to Rannala, but was turned into the Golden Order Great sword after he left her and reforged it. So if you wanna blame someone for the look, blame Radagon lol. Jokes aside, it was most likely because of this, and also for continuity reasons that Ranni's sword was a dark blue hue, since her entire thing is her dark cold moon. As to speculations for what it might have looked like, it might have been a fully ethereal blade... If you look at the Golden Order Great sword, it has no real physical form, made up of essentially the solid golden light and even still is see through. So we were to use this as reference, it probably would have been a really cool great sword made entirely of moonlight.
Honestly you should also have rated the old moonlight spell moonlight shotel and abdullah's Moonblade (each one is technically just a different version of the moonlight sword)
Just a note, there are several ways of repairing the DS1 MLGS other than what you mentioned. The East Wood Grain ring makes your weapons durability decrease less, and you can buy a repairbox from any blacksmith so you can repair weapons at a bonfire. Alternatively you can grab the Repair sorcery from either Dusk or Elizabeth and it repairs your gear to full each cast. So, please check for such things
you actually can repair your weapons in at bonfires in ds1! if you buy the weapon repair kit from a smith (andre and giant confirmed, unsure about vamos or rickert) you’ll be able to repair weapons while resting. There might be a separate one for armor I don’t remember but you can definitely repair weapons
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repairbox exists in ds1, no? it costs souls to repair but you can do it at any bonfire though
I do love the darkmoon we get in elden ring, but nothing will ever compare to the old hunters, release week, everyone online losing their minds over the Ludwig fight and then that masterpiece of a transition to phase 2 with the music and the sword reveal
And the weapon itself is great, too
please elden ring dlc make a True Moonlight Greatsword or smth that would be so metal
The chills I got, definitely a top from soft moment in gaming fr
@@granthefato340also lorewise would technically be the most powerful as you are gifted the moonlight greatsword by a very powerful being,and the sword itself is extremely powerful and also has very special significance
@@lolbots686 well idgaf about the lore i just want a cool green sword not a blue one
@@lolbots686 plus i mean the most powerful sword im the game is just being held by some random dude for some reason so i dont think it really matters
I like the one in ER the most just because it has this MASSIVE quest tied to it that properly gives it the legendary status
Played a pure INT character and as much as I love the spells in ER I used nothing but the DMGS for like 50 levels after I got it.
It trivializes most fights in the game.
For me I feel as though the moonlight from elden ring feels like the least sigificant/legendary. It’s got like 2 lines of lore and nothing else. Every other souls rendition of the moonlight greatsword makes it feel like a big deal.
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@@protonjones54 don't remember,just google protogen with mask
One of the only legendaries that feel legendary
for me bloodborne one is the best one. most fun mechanically and best aesthetically too
also the fact that the elden ring version basically has just 1 attack animation with no variety is such a disappointment. i know its op but i got bored so fast with it
Bloodbornes is really basic
@@sycomonky4993bro wdym two unique move sets with a thrust variant and transform moves? Are we thinking of a different blood borne? 😂
@@sycomonky4993do you not know what basic means?
@sycomonky4993 are you mentally ill?
8:38 it’s is called DARK MOON because it’s from Ranni. She represents the dark moon and Rennala represents the full moon. I bet the GS Rennala gave Radagon was called Moonlight GS. but it was transformed into golden order GS so we may never know.
E: GoldenOrderGS - “Telltale signs betray that this was once the greatsword bequeathed to him by his first wife, Rennala.”
If we are following the Ranni/Rennala theme the sword Rennala gave Radagon was likely called Full Moon Greatsword.
Elden ring and dark souls aren't tied together
@@2bizzystu868 neither are bloodborne and dark souls, or even armored core. The moolight greatsword is just the fromsoft signature item they put it in every game they make
@@Livan-yuruikamiBB is questionable tbh. We got Aldritch dreaming of sea world.
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Sekiro hands down has the best MLGS, especially the epic cutscene with Mist Noble pulling it out of his butt.
Yeah, Mist Noble is so fucking hard. And when I learned that to use the MLGS you need to beat him in under 3 hours, I was like, HOW can you do that
“Ah, you were inside me all along. My guiding moonlight”
Divine Dragons sword looked and functioned similarly to a mgs, prob the closest thing
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In the world of Demon's Souls it makes sense for it to scale off faith because the old one is the source of both faith and magic. It illustrates the contradictory nature of the world that most people of the world don't realize.
Nerd
@@smurfie8412 Bro is calling everyone with game knowledge a nerd😂
Also, the original moonlight sword from King's Field was a holy light weapon that banished evil. It was pretty much the excalibur of the series.
@@ilikevideogames4331*master sword
The moonlight great sword is different in Elden Ring because it’s not the moonlight great sword at all, it’s the darkmoon great sword which gives off frost instead of magic. The original moonlight great sword was turned into the golden order great sword by Radagon.
Nice to know
So does the golden order greatsword come close to be a sunlight greatsword ?
Nerd
@@smurfie8412ur watching this video too u arent better than any of us you nerd
Interesting 🤔
Recently i did another bloodborne playthrough with a heavy focus on farming the best gems in chalice dungeons, and the moonlight sword does crazy damage when fully beefed up. One of my favorite weapons
Yepp and a lot of people miss out on the weapon variants (like lost) that can get you different gem slots so you can build around beam damage, thrusts when in not transformed, etc..
Even without farming chalices the sword does insane damage.
The secret to maximising its potential is not going pure Arcane. My AR was around 689 before the DLC and I don't farm for blood gems and all the gems I have on it were naturally acquired in the base game.
Had 30 Str, 20 Skl and 32 Arc.
People tend to compare it to LHB since you'll get higher damage earlier but by the time soft caps start rolling in, the multi-stat scaling of HMS will surpass it.
It's super good, and each attack is amazing against certain enemies. Need pure physical? Non transformed. Want to do the max amount of damage possible? Full charged attack, both the beam, and blade deal damage. Need to blast an enemy into their back? L2.
I can farm for days and only get trash drops :/
I am sad DS3's Old Moonlight from Midir is not in this list.
That blue turquoise teal color of the Moonlights are so iconic
Technically not a weapon, but true, that sorcery imo is 10x more useful than the Moonlight GS itself. I almost never use Moonlight GS, but I constantly use Old Moonlight.
I really love specifically how the ML sword fits into the lore for the top 2 here.
The Moonlight Greatsword usually does have some good lore don't get me wrong, but specifically ER and BB's swords are best to me story-wise.
In Elden Ring, there are implied to actually be multiple MLGS that are given out by the Carian Royal Family as marriage gifts. The Golden Order Greatsword was actually a MLGS itself (presumably the Full Moon Greatsword) that Radagon got from Rennala and forged into a golden faith based sword instead. And as such, the time we get the Dark Moon Greatsword for ourselves, from becoming the consort of the Dark Moon Carian, fits well with everything else we know, and also feels like a serious occasion given how long of a questline you actually have to go through to get to this point with Ranni.
And in Bloodborne, sure it's a boss drop, which doesn't make it too different from the variants of it transfused from Boss Souls, but it's different in the lore relevance that this is *Ludwig's* greatsword, one that was so legendary it spawned imitators (that you can actually find for yourself!) and he even uses it in the fight once he goes from beast back to man. It's not just "one of Seathe's weird experiments stuck to his ass for some reason, or "this was seathes at some point and now it's yours," or "we found it being eaten by slugs in a poison swamp lmao." It feels like a genuine boss weapon because it's the weapon genuinely used by that boss. It makes it one of the most iconic MLGS in the series in my opinion, (alongside Demon Souls obviously just because Demon Souls has the sheer badass factor.)
Really, they both feel like *reveals* when you see them, as opposed to "oh shit, it's the funny sword." It feels like you genuinely put in the work, and *found* them, and they feel like meaningful rewards for the obscure and optional work put in to get them.
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I agree.
Moonlight is incredibly important to the story of King's Field, being one of the two Dragon Swords (Other being Dark Slayer) designed if not actually created by Seathe (Kings Field Seathe, not DS Seathe) and Guyra, to kill each other and try to take over each other's domain. Moonlight is tied to Guyra, and is the strongest weapon in the those games. As such, you only get to use it for like...5 minutes in each game, but you can feel something so special about Moonlight in those 5 minutes.
Souls 1-3 just drop in the game somewhere like a piece of shit. I love the BB and Elden Ring variants just because they felt legendary again, they felt important.FROMSOFT really outdid themselves with those 2 games specifically.
To be more fair on Demon's Souls, you find it being eaten by slugs presumably because that was the fate of Moonlight Knight Vito - the owner of the sword. Him being in Valley of Defilement specifically also makes a lot of sense, given Astrae's residence there.
@@gnostic-achamoth I guess, but it still feels like it was just throw in there like a piece of shit.
@@ravensnest97he literally explained that it's not the case
Dark souls 3 had the tiny Moonlight shotel, would have been cool to rate that one even if its a different class, still has the beam attacks
By that metric you'd also have to rate Moonveil, since it's also a moonbeam sword.
@@calvinwarlick8533 sure, but he did cover moonveil already in the sekiro section
@@jevmenyt3422 No, it was mentioned as part of the "Sekiro doesn't have a Moonlight Sword" joke. Moonveil itself wasn't rated.
@@meg2844 yeah but im sure the lore of it is that its a replica.
I think it doesnt even deal magix damage or throw any beams
@@jevmenyt3422Would the moon veil not count as a replica? Even if it actually shoots beams it's like a samurai saw the mgs and went YOOOOOO
The fact that you can raw the MLGS and use it with mininum stats in ds2 makes it a top tier to me automatically.
5:50 I hear what you’re saying but I like that it’s a faith weapon just to beef up the faith path otherwise it would be pretty barren so it had to be a faith weapon in this game given how much more thing magic users have to play with
Yeah, if there's any build that needs help with doing more damage, magic is the last one on the list.
Bloodborne's Moonlight is way better, more versatile!
Cooler looking too
@@LordSleven Exactly 👍🏽
All bloodborne weapons are more versatile
uses bullets 🤮
@@zachclark2936 Others use durability 🤮
The frost damage on ER makes it a top contender for sure!
in dark souls 1 there is an extra durability ring, and you can repair stuff at your bonfire if you buy the powder kit (tho it consumes souls and you need to go through every item one by one manually which is annoying)
I forget about that ring. I never take off havels and fap ring 😅
@@youwy THE LEGEND NEVER DIES
yeah considering how important rings are in DS1, nobody is using the silly wood ring
East Wood Grain Ring doesn't affect durability lost through special attacks like Moonlight Greatsword's ranged attack.
Did DS1 have a Repair sorcery or am I thinking of DS2?
The Bloodborne version is my favorite, too. Aesthetically, I’m not a fan of how wide the moonlights tend to be, so being able to swap between the narrower steel blade and the wider magic blade was very nice.
I love that the ranking wasnt just AR damage. Look, lore, cutscene, quest line, etc. Very cool video
in Bloodborne, not only is the animation fantastic, but the sound! THE SOUND! I loved that weapon and was tragically disappointed when the Elden Ring variant was lame.
13:50 There is one ring that reduces durabillity cost, the "East Wood Grain Ring". You can buy it from Shiva of the East for 10,000 souls.
8:55 how the godskin apostle dodge-
jumped your moonlight beam was preatty epic!
The ER Moonveil is a variant of the Fromsoftware Moonlight. It hasn't always been a greatsword; it's also been a thin, gas powered blade in older Armored Cores.
Sure but I would say Darkmoon greatsword is the actual Moonlight greatsword that we usually think off.
I’m pretty sure it’s also in armored core 6
5:32 the source of magic and miracles in DeS is the same, the only difference is one is from knowledge and research and the other is faith. It was wielded by one who went the faith route so I think it's cool and makes a lot of sense here 👀
You forgot the golden order gs from er, I know it's kinda different, but it's stated to actually be the mlgs but it also does holy damage, and holy damage has been done with the mlgs before (aka demon's souls)
When Dark Souls 2 released you used to be able to cast Crystal Weapon on the Moonlight GS. And since the magic buffs in DS2 scale off of elemental damage, that thing used would hit like a TRUCK
Great video, thanks for the info/insight. I legit just started a run like this of all games and after only equipping it in DS1 I already scratched that game off my list. The ranking in my head was the same as this video (before watching it)!
It's definitely between the HMS and the DG for me. I love the HMS for the transformation and moveset. I love the DG for the frost status and the free projectiles after the buff. And you get them as a reward for either beating one of the best bosses or completing one of the best questlines.
A celebration weapon to the FS games, now fitting for the eves in a ranking video.
Happy new year mate, may all blessings be in your path
I actually like how the darkmoon stands out amongst the other moonlight greatswords.
Helps it feel fresh; after so many years of it being pretty much the same.
I think you forgot about the repair sorcery in ds1, so you basically have infinite uses of the heavy attack if you have that. Sorcery, intelligence, and moonlight great sword go very well together
Only has 1 use and repairs 150 durability, so that's only 3 extra heavy attacks per rest.
@@_BBAGG_ ok but if you're using a sorcery build you'll have plenty of sorceries to deal damage with at your disposal. But yeah ig for Mgs only run, it isn't extremely helpful, but at least it's something
I think the Elden Ring one is the best. If you are close enough and do a heavy attack, the sword itself and the projectile will connect, dealing insane damage. The only problem I have with it is that I like faith builds more because they are more versatile.
The reason why the moonlight greatsword does magic damage is because magic damage has the same source: the Old One, the magic, though, is shaped differently, and you can see that when you need to face the final boss, Sage Freke and Saint Urbain have a completely different interpretation of the Old One if spoken to.
PVE wise, I think it’s fine, its magic damage in DeS isn’t resisted by everyone like in DS1, and it’s much better than fire damage resistance wise.
In fact, there is a ring that increases the durability of weapons in Dark souls 1, Shiva of the east sells it in Blighttown after talking to him in the Dark woods garden
“You were at my side all along.
My true mentor, my guiding moonlight.” - People who mained the Moonlight Greatsword for all of the Souls Games.
Awesome video, bro. Moonlight Greatsword is super iconic in all the souls games.
That dodge at 7:51 though.
I’ve done this! My ranking is pretty much the exact same… but my nostalgia REALLY favors the DeS version. It feels like that’s the Faith answer to offense.
I did a similar run earlier in 2023 where I played the Lucerne in every game. Mirdan Hammer in DeS and Church Pick in Bloodborne (a reach, I know). While it got VERY repetitive, I had a great time with it. Elden Ring’s was my favorite just because of the variety of Ashes of War.
These runs are really cool, seeing how long-standing weapons change, or what they retain.
I'm sure someone has pointed this out already so I'm probably just being annoying but in Dark Souls 1 there is a shopkeeper in Undead Burg near the ladder bonfire down a flight of stairs in the tower where the two spear hollows are near the bonfire that sells a repair box for 1,000-10,000 (i dont remember how much) souls that unlocks the ability to repair your weapons and armor when resting at a bonfire. don't know if you knew this but you do now!
DS2's MLGS is being slept on hard, especially when you compare it on the PvP side of the game, which easily puts it in the top 3 of the Soulsborne series.
Unlike the others, you can actually Enchant DS2's MLGS for pure physical damage, allowing it to completely bypass Great Magic Barrier and other creature's Magic resistance. While the beam deals no damage, it makes for an excellent bluff in PvP.
DS2 has a very generous cancel window when it comes to cancelling attacks, which allows users to create various feints.
It's the only MLGS that can parry.
The only real downside to DS2's blade design is that the blade is opaque rather than translucent, which makes it look more bland compared to other versions.
While the MLGS in DS2 has a decent Strength and Dexterity requirement, DS2 is also the only game to have armors that have stat requirements, so it's only a minor inconvenience in the long run.
Fun fact about the elden ring moonlight greatsword. There is technically 2. The way I see it the Darkmoon is the 2nd iteration created for Ranni to give to her husband after the original moonlight greatsword which was given to Radagon by Renalla got reforged into the golden order greatsword after he left her.
The sword used by the Divine Dragon I believe is meant to be Sekiro's version of the Moonlight Greatsword.
Not really. Sekiro is really disconnected from the usual Soulsborn stuff, so it doesn't have a Moonlight. If the Divine Dragon's blade is compared to anything, it would be Storm Ruler, since the Dragon's swings launch blades of wind.
@@joshuaarnett762even armored core have the moonlight great sword. The sword used by the Devine dragon is meant to be it.
@@joshuaarnett762the moonlight greatsword isn’t a soulsborne weapon, it’s a fromsoft weapon.
@@kevinnigins9488 true, but the Divine Dragon's Sword still really isn't Moonlight. It's glowing, but it launches waves of wind, not light.
@@Erick-ue6fh no, Miyazaki literally said in an interview that the Moonlight Greatsword wouldn't be in Sekiro. The Divine Dragon's Seven Branched Sword's glow is at best a mild reference, but it also launches waves of wind like Stormruler, not Moonlight.
The Bloodborne one just for me is just so unique to me that one time I started a new play just to kill Ludwig early (pain in the ass but did it) so that i could play the entire game with it.
Quick corrections on the ds1 moonlight greatsword, you can repair the sword at the bonfire if you bought the repair box from Andre (and a couple other merchants and/or blacksmiths).
There's the wood grain ring which lowers the durability loss on weapons; however I don't remember if that actually affects the moonlight projectile's durability cost
I firmly believe the Divine Dragon's sword is the Moonlight Sword in Sekiro. It's a magic glowing teal sword that fires an arc projectile
I can't believe people deny it purely because it has a branched sword shape. Like yeah it does, but I don't see how that would disqualify it at all, the MLGS has a different shape and form in every game
In DS1 you can buy the Repairbox, which does allow you to repair weapons and armor at a bonfire so you don't have to return to a blacksmith as you stated.
hes just not educated on ds1
I’m surprised you didn’t mention Evergrace. It has a Moonlight greatsword variant too.
You actually can repair at a bonfire in DS1/R. But you need the repair box sold to you from Andre and then can repair weapons and armor at any bonfire with an additional option.
I was talking more about just resting at the bonfire doesn’t replenish the durability like it does in the other games.
@@youwy still incorrect information that you HAVE to go to a blacksmith just to repair the weapon when the option to repair is available at the bonfire, even if it isn't just resting at it.
@@loudmouth138🤓
@@youwythis is a massive fucking L 😂😂 ofc the ER fanboy youtube goober knows fuckall about the games
something you missed about the bloodborne version is that the projectile actually has the parry property that bullets have which is awesome
Ludwig is the only boss that use the moonlight greatsword and this is why ludwig is one of the best fromsoft boss but he is not my favorite fight in bloodborne
1:50 yknow the repair box exists right
i always have considered sekiro's moonlight greatsword to be the divine dragon's sword
I don't get why so many people say that, it so clearly isn't Moonlight, literally the only connection is the glow, and it isn't the right color. In all the fantasy games Moonlight is a heavy western style greatsword that glows blue, and launches waves of moonlight.
The Divine Dragon's Seven Branched Sword literally is none of that, it's green, is a Seven Branched Sword rather than Greatsword, and launches wind like Stormruler, rather than Moonlight. Also Miyazaki literally said in an interview there wasn't gonna be a Moonlight Greatsword in Sekiro. At best the glow is a mild reference, but that's still a hard sell when glowing blades are just cool and super common in fantasy.
@@joshuaarnett762 the amount of people I have had to tell this 😅
The answer is king's field 3. No contest is regens your mp and hp and it's sword magic is broken op.
But also the mlgs has a counterpart in elden ring golden order greatsword.
I completely agree with this list.
Happy to see the DS3 Moonlight at 3 at least I was super confused too. When people were saying it’s terrible. I think people get so caught up on the scaling being B.
When it’s base stats are pretty high. With the Magic Clutch Ring and Dusk Crown you can get an AR of 670+. I was chucking bosses for 1200-1600 HP off of two R2’s or L2’s.
Another benefit of the L2 similar to Bloodborne’s is against normal mobs. Many times it will cause them to fall on their back.
This is pretty spot on, and BB's MGS is just...perfection.
The Faith scaling is a super deeplore thing. There's actually a talisman that lets you cast sorceries and miracles. It depicts the great old one and explicitly states that miracles and soul arts are fundamentally one and the same. (A theme Fromsoft revisits in Elden Ring with Radagon)
Gotta pay homage to the oldschool Moonlight swords like LS-MOONLIGHT from Armored Core or THE Moonlight from King's Field...
i hope they add a green OG moonlight greatsword in Shadow pf the erdthree
I just acquired my first moonlight GS (ever) in Elden Ring. Having on,y completed DS1 and 3 before this, I’m still a noob to FromSoft games but I’m psyched to finally have this iconic weapon in my arsenal. Also I think Ranni’s quest line was pretty cool. Thanks for the video!
what about the moonlight sords in king's field and armored core?
How do u have solaire’s armor buddy 1:03
Did you do the unthinkable
The Sword of Moonlight in King’s Field was so absurdly overpowered
Amazing video. I have a level 500+ character in blood-borne and the Moonlight great swords endgame scaling is among the best in the whole game, really only out done by Ludwick Holy blade. Its DPS, even with an unoptimised build A.k.a. 27.5 physical damage upgrades gems instead of arcane gems is still pretty insane.
What about Moonlight Swords from King`s Field and Armored Core? =)
Bloodborne's moonlight gratsword is my most favorite, the animations, the ordinary swordt transformation, the speed and moves.
Never seen what you look like, I thought I saw Ice Poseidon lol. Great content btw
i really liked the ds3 special poke
Feel like the one in ER came up short... dedicating an entire button to the charge up and only giving it one special attack just felt underwhelming compared to previous versions.
Coming back to this. Is that the dlc armor 7 months early ? In the elden ring section
I remember the DS2 one pre nerf could be buffed with crystal weapon.
1:55 there is a ring that you can buy from shiva that lowers the durability Lost of your weapons
Actually the Holy Moonlight Sword is one of the strongest weapons in Bloodborne, they just made the damage scaling weird. Even though it has A in Arcane, B for Strength, & C for Skill when fully upgraded, it gets the most damage from STR > Skill > Arcane
Bloodborne’s is peak. The reveal and lore, the moveset, the versatiliity…man.
I think Elden Rings MLGS is the best because the cost:benefit ration for it is insane. For a small bit of FP you get an absolute BEAST of a weapon. Frost damage is a powerful status in ER as said in the video, lowers defenses, increases stamina usage (PvP), burst damage every time it procs (like bleed), and can be reset with fire damage (I’m sorry Rusty). The benefits this weapon gives off of such little FP (in comparison to your average FP bar) is insane and is why imo it’s the best version of the weapon.
Where is the Moonlight from Ninja Blade?
we need the ultimate moonlight, using pure int scaling/requirements, having long range projectiles that track well, can aim upward, can be altered at a blacksmith, especially to gain S scaling, gets a wide variety of moves for its beams, has a cold status effect and doesnt eat up durability, just magic/ammo (also cant forget the teal color)
Moonlight
From Armored Core 4
I like the frosted look more than the teal one for elden
Great work
For some reason, the moonlight blade (BB) scales better with strength than arcane. I would use it on a build with 50 str, 25 dex and 25 arc, or 50 arc if you're planning to go to 150.
Dark moon is that colour because its literally tied to ranni's darkmoon which shares the same colour, which in my opinion looks nicer and way more special anyway. i dont understand the confusion. also bb's moonlight is probably the least satisfying one to use outside of spamming stance lmao
Nah bloodborne's is the best. Has the most variety and isn't unbalanced as hell like ER's. Looks cooler and is much faster to obtain too.
@@Sephirothkingdom782 no, no, no, ur opinion ig, and sure but irrelevant
Demons souls is definitely my favorite tbh I hate weapon arts and always having to worry about durability. Plus it looks so cool glowing
Elden Ring Darkmoon Greatsword comes with a complimentary God-Wife, S-Tier
Happy new year my guy!
8:32 it´s the Dark Moonlight Greatsword, because Ranni rebuild the moonlightgreatsword she got from her mother, the same thing Radagon did with the Golden Order Greatsword (which makes it a Moonlight Greatsword too)
MOONLIGHT-07 (ACfA) is one of two non-blue laser blades in the game. in the Moonlight's case, it's purple; the other non-blue is the Dragonfang from Rayleonard.
I agree with this ranking entirely. If the MOONLIGHT in the Armored Core series was included, then I'd put it in 2nd or 3rd place, because overall, it's been the best laser blade in the series. If the Moonlight Sword from King's Field was included, I'd put it in 1st place, because it's always the best weapon in every King's Field game (except King's Field II), it plays an important role in the series, and it's the original Moonlight weapon.
I think the Dark Moon Greatsword is a good design because its a twist on the traditional Moonlight Greatsword. The blade also has a really awesome texture and the frostbite effect is thematically really cool and suits Ranni's nature
i feel like the divine dragons sword in sekiro was supposed to be theyre moonlight great sword
Not sure if anyone clarified, but there is a durability ring in Dark souls 1 (at least in the remastered version) called the East Wood Grain Ring.
I completely understand not wanting to do the armored core series that game is very reliant on combos and if you just had a moonlight would be a pain the ass
1:51 you can buy a repair kit you know. Or is that only remastered?
KF3's Moonlight Sword is obviously the best, because it quite literally made you invincible.
Fun fact about the ER Moonlight great sword, the reason it's the "Darkmoon" great sword is because the original Moonlight great sword is the one given to Radagon in marriage to Rannala, but was turned into the Golden Order Great sword after he left her and reforged it. So if you wanna blame someone for the look, blame Radagon lol. Jokes aside, it was most likely because of this, and also for continuity reasons that Ranni's sword was a dark blue hue, since her entire thing is her dark cold moon.
As to speculations for what it might have looked like, it might have been a fully ethereal blade... If you look at the Golden Order Great sword, it has no real physical form, made up of essentially the solid golden light and even still is see through. So we were to use this as reference, it probably would have been a really cool great sword made entirely of moonlight.
Honestly you should also have rated the old moonlight spell moonlight shotel and abdullah's Moonblade (each one is technically just a different version of the moonlight sword)
Just a note, there are several ways of repairing the DS1 MLGS other than what you mentioned. The East Wood Grain ring makes your weapons durability decrease less, and you can buy a repairbox from any blacksmith so you can repair weapons at a bonfire. Alternatively you can grab the Repair sorcery from either Dusk or Elizabeth and it repairs your gear to full each cast. So, please check for such things
Yeah this video was very poorly researched.
You missed the Golden Order sword, its the wedding moonlight sword Rennala gave to Radagon. Which he later changed into a Fth weapon
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the BB MGS use only Physical damage untransformed and only Arcane damage when transformed?
you actually can repair your weapons in at bonfires in ds1! if you buy the weapon repair kit from a smith (andre and giant confirmed, unsure about vamos or rickert) you’ll be able to repair weapons while resting. There might be a separate one for armor I don’t remember but you can definitely repair weapons