"BIRD STRIKE" -- WINDMILLS ARE KILLING THOUSANDS OF BIRDS
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- Green Energy Hypocrisy: "California's wind farms kill more than 80 Eagles per year and thousands of other birds daily, prompting calls by environmental groups for better wind power management......." (Fox News Video Description)
AS REPORTED by William La Jeunesse of FOX NEWS from Tehachapi, California, on August 16, 2011:
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Also refer to WALL STREET JOURNAL ARTICLE of 9/7/2009:
"WINDMILLS ARE KILLING OUR BIRDS"
(One standard for oil companies, another for green energy sources)
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This is infuriating! We can close a river to protect one fish and rope off a forest to protect one owl, but when it comes to BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, we have no problem sacrificing THOUSANDS of birds including protected ones without any consequences. What total and disgusting hypocrisy by the promoters of 'clean green' energy! :(
'Rules for thee, but none for me'
The government subsidizes the windmills that are killing the birds! Tax payers will be billed for the fine! The EPA should transfer the fine from their account to the Fish and Wildlife Service. Lets the leeches pay each other no more taxes?
Out Law Cats First: Wind turbines kill between 214,000 and 368,000 birds annually - a small fraction compared with the estimated 6.8 million fatalities from collisions with cell and radio towers and the 1.4 billion to 3.7 billion deaths from cats
I agree 100%!! Turbines are such a small percentage of the total losses compared to other causes, it barely shows up on the radar. They don't disrupt the wind currents any more than a tree their size. They negate more carbon dioxide with the power they produce, than a tree their size could ever absorb. Granted, turbines may not be a 'perfect' solution, but they are by far and away, the lesser of evils. I like them as well as solar power.
Your cat kill stats are WAAAY off. Most birds are killed by other birds. Circle of life they sing.
Wind turbines obviously have a flawed design. They should be covered with a metal cage, like a giant table fan, so birds can't get hit by the blades of the propeller
@Toolshed The sentence is incomplete. Anyway, there is something called
Vortex Bladeless Wind Power, its doesn't kill any birds.
Shocking that California chooses which laws to enforce.........
I live in California City CA. My grandparents live in Mojave, close to the windmills. like 600 feet from them. WE CAN HEAR THEM!!!!! They are running animals out of there homes. Where do those animals go? In our backyard, looking for somewhere to live and feel safe. There are old windmills farther back and those are leaking oil. when these newer ones start leaking, and they use more oil, its going to be a diaster!!! What do all those windmill loving people say to that? I dought they even know!!!
The noise generated by a wind farm us far less than the noise created by the traffic on the roads going past your house. It is physically impossible for you to be telling the truth.
The only way I've been able to hear a turbine, was to hop a fence, cross a equestrian path, and trespass onto the property, to get close enough to hear it over traffic noise, and the wind noise through trees and bushes. I could hear the "whirr" of the gears in the transmission, by putting my ear right against the tower. I've visited several sites, and could not hear them. they're not anywhere near as loud as road traffic.
I've heard the same sound dubbed onto videos of different turbines. That sound is a byte from a turbine that caught fire. Why? because a normally functioning turbine is so quiet, that it's hard to record over the sound of the wind blowing on the microphone of the camera!
I will admit, that the old ones had articulated blade tips, which could be pitched off plane, to moderate the speed of the rotor when the wind was too fast. Those DO make some sound once in a while, but the newer machines no longer employ that method. The newer ones pitch the entire blade, so there isn't the whipping noise caused by offset angles of attack. Until I actually hear a turbine for myself, that's what I have to say about that!
I'm a "big fan of the big fans", so I go looking for them, I've seen hundreds, and have heard none. I want to go to Altamont, or Tehachapi, and see the big farms there. I'm going to bring a video camera, and track all the birds going through there, and see if there's any possibility I can film one of the "fabled" bird strikes I hear so much about. There's only one bird strike I've seen, that looks authentic, the other, is clearly "photoshopped". Very rare. It would probably take me weeks of following birds with a camera, to actually capture a strike.
@@soldier4242 oh right I forgot you know exactly in Mojave where they live. It’s on the far West side. Did you hear the part where I said they were 600 feet from them? The main highway is a least a couple of miles from their house and we can’t hear it what so ever. Also Mojave is a super small town. Not a whole lot of traffic.
@@vincentrobinette1507 I will literally take a video of the windmills and the noise generated next time I’m there since you are so inclined to believe I’m lying.
@@frogodoom I'll look forward to that, The ONLY opportunity for me to hear them, is on video, not in real life. Here in Utah, we just don't get enough wind, to have wind turbines. You're lucky to have them!
I'm was for natural wind power in hopes we could then bypass the ocean drilling, or at least some of it. I'm also an animal lover and believe in protecting all creatures. What a mess. I had no idea these wind machines were killing gorgeous eagles. I don't know what to say. Why is life so darn complicated? Help!!!
Have no fear. It only happens a fraction of the number of times that it's reported. The number of bird strikes per year are but a few dozen. Not hundred, certainly not thousands. Birds are quite alert to movement, especially, when the movement is blades the size of commercial aircraft wings! I can't imagine a bird not seeing something like that. Just try to catch any bird. you'll know what I mean. With their eyes on the sides of their heads, they can see nearly 360 degrees. It's easier for them to see movement like that, than for us. I'm sure you would see a moving turbine rotor.
YEAH AMAZING GREEN ENERGY
WHERE IS PETA ???????
Bird Cuisinarts!! The Altamont pass farm is criminal and it should be shut down.
Post a video of a bird strike.(not just the aftermath). If you go to Altamont, or Tehachapi, you will have to track every bird that flies through there with your camera. You MIGHT get luck and actually see one. It's just too rare. All the videos you see on TH-cam are re-posts of the same incident, or faked, or "photoshopped". Get some REAL footage. If it happens as often as claimed, it should be easy. you'll find, it's nearly impossible. It happens about 1% of the number of times it's reported. Prove me wrong! Post your own video, and don't go by "hear-say". I've never seen it happen.
Also, this happens mostly to soaring birds species or to birds which are migrating.
California's had thousands of wind turbines for decades, ahead of the fad, but somehow the birds are just now being hit. I cringe at Windex commercials--those poor birds hit the windows... they hit cars, they fly into buildings ban it all
It's not the best solution
It's not the only solution, but rather part of the "trifecta" that would include solar, and electrical energy storage. Without energy storage, turbines can't amount to any more than about 20% of generating capacity without causing instability in the grid. That's because the wind is intermittent. Turbines aren't even considered co-operative, but rather, "negative load". Solar is slightly better, just because you can more easily predict its output. Both in combination is even better yet, but ultimately, without energy storage, there's no hope of renewable energy becoming the major player in generating capacity.
So why didn't they show all these dead birds under the turbines ?
Also gotta cut all the trees around windmills
Nuclear
Why do we need nuclear birds? 😂😂😂
Maybe people just don't know how many man-made constructions kill our feathered friends...I didn't know about the communication towers being another hazard for instance...sad world we live in all around.
You're right. Turbines may or may not be 2% of bird deaths, due to man made structures and domestic animals.(Way over exaggerated)
I've heard that many, many birds die from the newer glass skyscrapers. Literally splat against them in large droves.
Donald Trump wasn't kidding around this is crazy!
RC 1994 not really, just presented partial information to persuade.
th-cam.com/video/eNFEG46Mx8A/w-d-xo.html
OHHH 😂 i came to this video cuz I just watched a vid a trump saying "Bird graveyard
@devyn172 -- Actually, the blades create what's caused a 'sheer' image. The birds can't seem them when they're turning, even though they don't turn very fast. As well, most raptors are focussed on the ground looking for prey. They're not looking straight ahead of them.
Birds can sense movement nearly 360 degrees around, because their eyes are on the sides of their heads. Their peripheral vision is much better than ours. Just try to catch a bird, even when it's paying attention to something else. You won't succeed. I don't know what you mean by "sheer" image, but it seems pretty hard not to see something flailing through the air, that's the size of the wings on a commercial aircraft. Birds are VERY alert to any kind of movement.
@JungleUnderground of course geothermal is the answer. except that the free market, government, scientists, economists, and just about everyone not selling a geothermal system has determined that it's not of much use unless your Iceland (volcanic island in cold climate)
It's total hypocrisy. Those turbines are killing machines.
These windmills need to come down NOW!!!! Not one bird should die for these Green Energy pirates! Its all a big lie.
+Lyov Nikolayevitch We can make safe wind mills that kill no birds and produce more electricity if we could remove the General Electric monopoly from the controls of the industry.
I would love that. General Electric has done a lot of damage over the Years. If we reduce almost all government control except for limited and general environmental oversight, the pseudo forms of government manipulating the government, we would have no monopolies. That is why I am against strong centralized Governments that encroach on the freedom of the individual person. If government is not there than it cannot be manipulated by pseudo forms of government like GE.
so lets get rid of cars all plastic containers and cats because they all kill birds
general electric isn't the top manufacturer goldwind is #1 then it goes Mitsubishi, nordex ,REpower , siemans and there are about 5 more
wait...you forgot about planes
hahaha trumps right
Ever thought of putting a protective cage around it
just use heppolt wind turbine
how can the birds not see this? '
eagles are known for there eyesight.
yeah its sad but they should figure it out sommetime
I'll bet you've seen ONE video of an eagle strike. The same one that gets re-posted countless times. The one that shows an eagle being hit by a turbine was "photoshopped", then, it switches over to a re-post of the after math. There would be a lot more genuine videos of bird strikes, if it happened anywhere near as often as claimed. There are plenty of environmental extremists, that would be recording and posting, if only, it wasn't so rare. The number of strikes in a year are but a few dozen, not hundreds, definitely not thousands as claimed.
@MrZimzim: I'm not arguing with your stats -- wildlife and man's technology are in conflict everywhere. This video was just to raise some awareness that windmills are not 100% environmentally "friendly". As to the feline culprits in unnecessary bird deaths: it would be nice if the neighbors kept their well-fed killing machines inside when the birds are breeding (as is required by law here in theory).
Oh well we live in an imperfect world where every living thing competes for living space...
@devyn172: I am sure they see the windmills, but they are probably not aware that the blades change position as they try to fly thru....and then they get struck. :
Birds are very astute to any kind of movement. Especially blades the size of the wings on commercial aircraft!
poor birds
Cats have killed more birds
@@biguy617
Cats killing Eagles ??
That'll be a sight 😂
POINT EMERGING PROBABLY ENTERING 🐸
@@clarkkent7962 I see this as BS put out by Fossil Fuels to benefit them so they can continue to pollute the Earth for profit. Wind power works great in other countries. Germany and the Netherlands have it they are doing fine. Solar power lowers your electric Bill according to some ads I have seen.
@@biguy617
Yeah fair enough, I support calling out peoples BS as well. That's why I'm calling you out.
Cats killing endangered Eagles ay ?? 🐸👌🏻
Nice one 😂
shhh. keep this quiet otherwise we will be exposed as hypocrites.
Wind turbine pushers are full of lame rationalizations citing existing causes of bird deaths, as if the word CUMULATIVE has no meaning. They also don't like to talk about the unique way wind turbines kill bats, which are adept at avoiding most other structures via sonar. Wind turbines ruin bats' lungs with pressure differentials as they pass by the blades. I don't know if anything else man-made has that affect, so it's a serious concern.
wonder if there is some sort of sound that will drive the eagles away. there might be thermals there but if there are sounds that make them want to pluck their tail feathers out, they wont stay will they?
Ban these bird killer machines immediately .... Why they were allowed to install without any protective measures in first place? I am sure the protections like fan grills can easily be incorporated
Bats suffer worse than the poor birds! What a lot of people don't know is that the wind turbines kill even more bats than birds. Bats fly through the turbine area and die because the low pressure from the turbines explodes their lungs.
yeah! let's tear down those wind turbines and build more coal fired electric plants!
+Muy Gonzo That would be the cheapest and safest solution.
So you're okay with killing so many birds, including the Bald Eagle, for a little bit of energy? You're also okay with the people responsible for these birds not being held accountable, even though YOU would go to prison if you killed just one?
downward spiral windmills are not helping the entire worlds climate though.
Muy Gonzo today’s American coal plants are much cleaner and way safer.
There's a major difference between, making a decision to pick up a gun and purposely shooting a bald eagle, rather than a bald eagle not knowing any better to crash into a structure...I'm sure there's some way to redesign and make windmills more bird friendly in the future?? They serve a major purpose in our environment. I'm no windmill expert forgive me if I'm wrong. If we can build a wall we can build a way to save these birds.
I have a solutions to avoid deaths to birds on wind turbine, why not put wire mesh around the wind blades to protect the birds, take the electric fan as an example, electric fan is shrouded by wire mesh to protect us against its blades, the same with wind turbine, shroud the turbine with wire mesh to protect the birds, the holes on the wire mesh must not be very small but just enough size so that birds will not be able to enter, yes it will reduce the efficiency of the turbine but it will be a very small reduction, another solution is to install electronic device that will emmit sounds or electronic signals that will drive them away from the turbine, about bats, I have post a comments on Grady's Video. Thank's !
@birdlady423 The solution is to take down all the wind turbines. It's the most ineffecient way to make electricity ever. So expensive.
Wind and solar are cheaper than coal and much cheaper than nuclear. Depending on the area, competitive with natural gas.
NOW READ THIS NEWS ARTICLE (1/4/2012):
"FEDS PROPOSE ALLOWING WIND-FARM DEVELOPER TO KILL GOLDEN EAGLES"
The federal government is proposing to grant a first-of-its-kind permit that would allow the developer of a central Oregon wind-power project to legally kill golden eagles, a regulatory move being closely watched by conservationists...
(Go to MSNBC(dot)com or search for the above title -- cannot post the actual link here).
I would like to see more of the bird strikes recorded on video. If it really happens all that much, you think there would be footage of it. The fact is, that it's so rare, there only a few incidences ever recorded, and they just get re-posted time and time again. the others are often "photoshopped". The numbers of bird strikes are but a dozen per year, not hundreds, definitely not thousands. It probably happens about 1~2% of the times per year claimed by extremists. Way over exaggerated.
Go to a notorious wind farm, like Alamont, or Tehachapi, and track every bird that flies through there with a camera. You'll probably need a couple of weeks of doing that, and if you're lucky, you MIGHT see a bird strike. It's that rare. you won't get one if you just sit there for an hour, or even a full day. That's why there aren't any real number of videos. Trust me, if it happened that much, every "environmentalist" would be very quick to post videos of actual bird strikes. It's less frequent than bird strikes at airports, because the turbines are stationary. they don't fly into the birds. Bird strikes do happen, but it's rare. There is even an incident where Randy Johnson, of the Arizona Diamondbacks, hit a dove with a fast ball pitch. That proves that anything can happen, but not often.
Oh my! This is so very heartbreaking! Does anyone have any ideas for the solution?
Go to a notorious wind farm. Follow every bird that flies through there with a camera, and see if you can actually capture a bird strike as it happens. If you're there for 2 weeks, you might be lucky enough to see it happen. the problem is, you hear about it 100 times, for each time it happens. There aren't a lot of videos of it, because it's such a rare event. Sure, you've seen the eagle that was hit, and got it's wing broken, but that, and a couple of hawks are just re-posts of the same few documented cases. There is one, where an eagle circles around a turbine, then the camera edits over to the dead bird, but that strike was probably "photoshopped". You will be happy to know, that the numbers reported are greatly exaggerated.
Nuclear Energy, it is more efficient, safer, and cheaper.
Can't they put gigantor screen over the fans just like house fans? I mean it really not a crazy idea. These are absolutely beautiful birds dying again from our lack of effort
Yes!! But it would cost several thousand per turbine, so. Profits come first.
Birds of prey need a huge area to hunt and swoop down onto there prey.They are like your 747 jumbo airlines that just cannot pull up and change course.
Birds see better than we do. Their peripheral vision is nearly the full 360 degrees. I've never successfully snuck up on a bird and have caught it. They're very alert to any kind of movement, they will certainly notice blades the size of wings on a commercial aircraft flailing in the air. I just don't see how it can happen, but then, bird strikes at airports are fairly common, and as unlikely as it seems, Randy Johnson, of the Arizona Diamondbacks actually hit a dove with a fast ball pitch. That said, it happens once in a while, but it's very rare. Turbines may or may not account for 2% of bird deaths, caused by man made structures. Eagles have been dodging the flailing branches of trees for eons. They know how to navigate around them.
All for GE's profits.
If you're going to prosecute windmill builders for killing birds, what about airplane builders?
@birdlady423
Yes. Thorium reactors. Clean, little hazardous waste, inherently safe, not like uranium, lots of fuel widely distributed throughout the world sufficient for thousands of years. The Chinese are going for them now, by the time we have run out of money to subsidise these flailing things that produce insufficient and expensive electricity, perhaps we will borrow more money from the Chinese to buy their reactors from them.
Wind and solar are now cheaper than coal, much cheaper than nuclear. They're competitive with natural gas.
so oil spills are alright?
As long as man can kill for his own "green" survival, I guess that is okay to some.
New 5 year study from Norway shows that by painting one of the blades black you can decrease collisions by 70%, I hope this study can be replicated and becomes the new norm.
Hello the WHOLE reasons nothing is done about the bird kills is Democrats want to keep it hidden. Dems political agendas to get elected are all about wind farms and renewable clean energy. If the wind farms go away then what do Dems have left. Dems HATE oil companies and that's why they are fined but Dems LOVE wind farms, cant fine their agendas
Good question....
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We have turbines not far from our house and Birds are the least of the problems. Bat's are also being killed at a large rate, not by the blades but by the atmospheric pressure changes that cause their lungs to explode. You also have to look at the people that are physically ill because, of the turbine's.
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Is there anything that doesnt kill birds??
Killed by traffic, they fly into closed windows, cats, oil spills, solar arrays, other birds, disease, harsh winters, hot summers, bread, wind turbines, chimneys, drones.......etc
Conclusion: we need better birds!
damn... and this vid is 8 years old now.
Amazing never here it about the greener people
Spend some of those billions and install screens on the things!!!!