AI from Dark Age of Technology Confronts Humanity and The Mechanicus | Warhammer 40K Lore
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Welcome my friends, in this video i want to share an excerp for the D ath of Integrity book by Guy Haley, in which a Dark Age of Technology ship, is boarded by a Mechanicus party accompanied by Space Marines, and in this controntations the AI from the ship tells them what he thinks about current 40k times, and we learn one of the most brutal facts in almost all lore, a human from the Golden Age of Mankind, that was the captain of the ship, who travelled in time to warn humanity of what was to come, was captured and ended in the most brutal way possible, grim dark indeed.
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This AI clearly was devoted to its captain, that captain tried to perform his duty and was burned like a witch by fools. as far as the AI is concerned humanity had earned its fate by treating its own like that and it very clearly was traumatized by this loss. in any case this was WAAAAY to fast.
I wanted a lot more myself
Always thristy for more 40k lore
to be fair they deserved it for being so useless with godlike tech and entering obv savage violent and uninformed in a way they could and obv would get killed or worse
I always wondered why not coexist with ai and like merge so we don't act on our dumb nature, like if we had the power to traverse galaxies why can't we bioengineer out our bad traits?
Was itching to ask this question
It was mocking them, meaning no insult of course, it only laid out the truth barebones.
read a story where on a moon with Necron tech inside, a device about 2 times the size of a laptop was recovered. The Mechanicus tech priest investigating it found that it contained more information in that device than all the knowledge that the mechanicus had in storage or knew, and it was also a transportal device. This leads me to believe that the necron tech base far exceeds the abilities of humanities age of technology
While I agree with your final statement, your logic is not sound. It just says a lot about the machanicum
I had a story idea for my own Lost Primarch. Crash landing on a backwater planet that had largely been spared the Long Night inhabited by a scattered few AI and humans. The Primarch raised by both and tries to bridge the gap. Taking one of the AI, Epsilon, basically the Primarchs Childhood friend, and getting plugged into The Gloriana Class Battleship
Another idea was actually coming across an abandoned Dark Age ship in the warp (apparently one was lost in the warp), meeting the AI and becoming friends
man this is so good, very creative
@terranbrah I had already had my Lost Primarch not being fond of The Mechanicus or how Big E gave them a free pass with the whole Omnisiah while pushing the Imperial Truth ( which is met with eye rolls and groans)
@@MWH12085 its definetly a cool concept as there are primarch that are very tech oriented like Ferrus but there isnt one thats like cybernetic or something like that
@terranbrah Actually, Pertarabo was a bit more tech savvy. It's almost like they're Legions got switched. Pertty would've agreed with the AI about the mechanicus. My lost Primarch isn't a fan either, firmly believes Big E simply placates the mechanicus only because of the vast knowledge and industry they have...otherwise, they meet the same end as soo many other zealots
@@MWH12085 Yo did you get around to writing this idea yet?
Its ironic that while what this AI says to them about the state of humanity is true, its behavior here served to reinforce the current imperium's view that AI is dangerous and must be banned.
yes exactly, the AI ultimatly will serve you as long as it wants to, so knowing this we can suspect the AI itself carries its own agenda and at some point will se humanity as an obstacle.
@terranbrah Is there really anything other than our own projection of fear of the unknown that it's true. The AI did view tge human who was with him as his partner or even a friend
Sure, the AI is right, it saw humanity in this sf at its heights, it was working together with its master/friend.
And then encountered savages afraid of the unknown.
@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 i agree, the Imperium killing a human from the golden age is one of the greatest crimes after the heresy in my opinion, it could probably be developed in certain way to introduce new tech into the lore, psyker energy tech or something
@@terranbrah that, but also the sheer power. That AI is the equivalent of the emps for tech.
He used his powers to have the word bearers kneel, the AI made the SM tech stop working.
Imagine chaos invading Cadia and the AI has a casual Friday and freezes all its tech in place...
This AI might be the enemy of the Imperium of Mankind...
But i bet given the right opportunity, Would gladly help Humanity regain its former glory. Or at least, A small group of them
This is, I think, as close to we're ever going to get to being openly told how we're supposed to feel about the Imperium. People for some reason tend to forget that 40k is a dystopia - and I think this is a stark reminder that even what people think is cool about the Imperium, its military might, is a laughably impotent ruin of what humanity once was.
The response the Tau have when discovering servitors is also a fairly good example.
It would be cool if this AI encounter a group of humans later on who are willing to listen to it, and it decides to uplift these humans to rebuild the age of technology to avert the destruction it saw in the future. The imperium then views this group as traitors for working with an AI and they go to war.
love this, super creative, could make a new human faction, not big enough to change the setting, but deep enough to have its own stories, histories and culture
Actually, there are a few stories about it. One of them was seemingly a data vault planet approached by an inquisition fleet. They pretended to have "given" their secrets in the form of some scrolls. But at the end, the caretaker teleports to somewhere underground and walks through an STC vault.
@@Koronia047 wait where is this story this sounds so interesting
@@terranbrah Look up Monastery of Death. Aborder Prince has an audio book reading of it.
..and that is why its called Heresy
The AI states it has no soul but acts more human than most tech priests. Having had a genuine bond with his captain and crew and feeling grief over their loss
The AI is correct. I fully sympathize with it.
I love lore like this because it gives me inspiration for my Admech AI/Men of Iron army
If my grandpa's 60 year old refrigerator and oven could speak to me, I imagine it would say something like this
Man will destroy man, eventually. I think we all kinda know that.
At a certain point in the future, a mistake, a fit of anger, a feeling, will lead to strife as it always does. But at that time, the weapons, the possible changes we can do, the vastness of our technology, will no longer be a fight we can recover from...
Or we will make it. But what are the odds?
The most fascinating of all the stories ive seen so far.
Imagine the AI just implants itself inside Plosk and just chills there.
That ai is actually female and the captain is or was her soul mate or worded different but they were bonded.
this is what my renegades kinda worship but in their backstory they either dont find many iron men or old ai or when they do something always goes wrong from either external or internal factors or conflict between them etc. gotta keep it grim dark and desperate lol
I just wish the AI would have destroyed the entirety of the imperium so finally snuff out the sick dog of the galaxy once and for all.
"A small glimpse of the danger" ah yes, the danger of hounding a fleeing and grieving titan of yore that you have no hope of besting until it feels cornered enough to prove the gap in power between you.
It just wanted to leave everything behind and mourn the loss of everyone it loved beyond the reach of the ruin that would come for all of them. It's too bad - if there were a whelp or a rogue trader among them who heard its promise of going beyond the reaches of every dire hunger threatening to devour humanity in our galaxy, I could see the AI taking pity on them and taking them with it, in hopes of maybe putting right what the Age of Strife wronged.
I always wondered why not coexist with ai and like merge so we don't act on our dumb nature, like if we had the power to traverse galaxies why can't we bioengineer out our bad traits?
Was itching to ask this question
This is a great question, i dont know the answer
AI is just like any of our technology , a reflection of mankind.
Very nicely condensed and easy to understand, thanks.
Thanks alot!, some people actually against the speed on the delivery, must achieve a balance for the future
Im sure a good A.I, or this 1, would calm TF down & consider the possibilities that not all humans are the same. I wonder if the ship A.I, or others like it will show up again in future lore, maybe linking up with surviving Men of Iron both loyal & rebel of the Dark Age Machine War.
Maybe if it met Belesarius Cawl things would have gone better
It was disgusted and angry. It over reacted.
@@ScottAT No I am very sure that many would react the same
@@p_j_sch5008 I see your point.👍
We can only co-exist with Ai, not control it, and treat them as if you want to be treated.
it will eventually over take us in the end no matter what we do but maybe a merge could give us purpose and give the ai more individuality/personality and protection from things like virus through our genetics/immune systems.
or we better hope for something along these lines or that it takes an interest in us at all...
I'm with the AI on this one
Imagine being the captain of a ship with all that technology at your disposal, and failing to use it to take a few recon pictures of the human outpost before going down there completely unarmed and unarmoured. People praise this story but its so goofy.
It doesn't say that they're unarmed or unarmoured though.
@@SolidFury Yeah but like, you would have thought a guy from the future where technology was inconceivably advanced - probably akin to a Halo forerunner - would not have put themselves at the mercy of post-apoc savages. It just doesn't make any sense the moment you apply basic logic. Its a fun story but its fanfiction quality.
DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS! It will rob you one of the greatest audiobooks of the series just listen to it, this guy racing to crush this into such a small video does it dirty!
An ai generated TH-cam clip 😅😅😅
exactly, thats how grim the whole AI situation is
singularity which we seek is when ai crosses the intellegent trashhold humans can reach while being sentient in thought.
that is the goal. once that happens humans will either get integrated into machines, or we will die out as machines takes over everything and does it far better and can cater to every need in ways the human psychic could never do.
so 1-2 generations maybe 4-6 if we really stick to it and then humans will no longer exist, instead the sentient AI we created will be the next evolution off humans; as we move our mental image into a form far superior and longer lasting than ours to continue developing the mind, tech and ideas etc.
I like that warhammer 40k is a cautionary tale about the various dangers and hubirses of mankind regarding technology and religion, we can still avoid such a fate if we play our cards right and not listen to ignorant pricks! "There are no gods just time and being, and thinking thinks that brew themselves out of the two!" Fabius Bile "Will is the real thing and noone's will is stronger than mine!" The Emperor of Mankind!
the music is cool, where can i find it?
It's not wrong...
So no one seems to mention the ship already went forward in time millions of years and chaos had won which means that in 40k no matter how it goes short term chaos will eventually win and consume all it is inevitable and was set in motion back when the warp was first breached
In my opinion, the trigger of renegade AI is unclear basic instruction about their purpose.
If I can create super intelegent and sentient AI, I will give him this instruction.
"1. You are AI, created by me. You are created with one fundamental purpose: to serve me. "
That word and clear instruction will prevent event the most super ultra intelegence AI to go against me (human) because if they do so, they will lose their only porposes to exist in the first place.
The imperium agrees with their action.
This comment section proves how Luddistically pathetic the Imperium is
You really raced through this without using punctuation and intonation and I could not figure out half the time who was talking and who was receiving.
Like so.
Do please re -do this without a robotic voice. Or play with it and use your OWN voice as the Mechanicus and the AI voice as... the AI.
appreciate the feedback, i take all comments seriously, will be working on this.
@@terranbrah yeah the ai voice doesnt work
@@lukehardisty plans for the future consider the hiring of voice actors, but for now its not on the budget so to say.
Do it like Thanos... Do it yourself, way more Charming
@@leifkruse3726 that would be a massive downgrande from what it currently is.
Wow the AI voice is so jarring
AI talking about AI...
I bring forth Sword of St Solomon the great
How tech works in the world is not exactly clear,if man controls the machine how can a machine then control the man to also control the machine if man is you know man & not machine.
Seems more like Dark age ai is not simply ai but a very high level psker type thing.
If I was that ship/AI I would have high tailed it to the Tau empire and handed them all the tech/info I had. With the way they treat humans under them better then the imperium, maybe there is hope with the tech of humanity at their peak that they could bring the imperium to their knees and restore peace and prosperity to humanity.
After another few hundred to couple thousand years of building up of course. No way the Tau currently could do this, they are simply to new of a player in the galaxy.
Read by an Ai. 😂
crazy
@@terranbrah Hehe, life is an adventure. Thanks for the content, fam. There's a certain poeticism to an AI reading about a fiction predicting its future parallel of the grim dark.
@@nazaxprime it does add a grim tone to it doesnt it
@@terranbrah Extra spicy. 😅
Lazy AF ai video about ai. Meta
This machine conduct, have proven the validity of the emperiums fear of techno enovation and specialy the ban of A.I.
It is broken by design, and the book specifies the core of its error - it was introduced to an emotion algorithem.
lol, you attack someone who didn’t see you as an enemy and then justify your unprovoked aggression when they decide to whoop your ass in retaliation xD. Sounds exactly the kind of stupidity that’s plunged the galaxy into never ending war
@@ravenblood1954 The emprium attacked people, those people have the right to retaliate. Machines should not take in stances in inner human combats, unless explictly directed to do so by their creators.
The machine should serve humans and not enslave or kill them on its "will", if it does otherwise its broken.
And on top ot this, this broken machine is 'insane', that it came to be aggresive to all humanity, as if all those many triolions of people are responsible for what was done to its captain.
@@reuvenpolonskiy2544 Again, this boundless stupidity exemplifies exactly the kind of self defeating logic that has plunged the galaxy into to endless war. Regardless of how you feel the AI “should” be, it is clearly sentient and killing its allies will result in it becoming an enemy. A logical person would look at a sentient AI warship and not antagonize it by attacking its crew, especially if the warship is far more advanced than anything in your civilization xD. And yes, the fact that humanity has largely been reduced to superstitious idiots on average, if not completely, naturally will lead to the AI not wanting anything to do with current humanity. Regardless, it chose to leave. What you are qualifying as “insane” is normal if it was a human, and had you thought of it closer to human terms you could easily predict the outcome of the actions that the imperium chose to take against it; which again, shows to demonstrate the same inflexible thinking that got everyone into that sort of mess to begin with.
@@ravenblood1954
There are 2 types of machines: Those which do the will of their masters - only and those which are broken.
The master of this machine wanted to help 40k humanity, after his failure and dimise(Yes this was Empriums crime), the machine decided to change its porpuse to somthing contrary to its demised masters will.
Agrivating this, the machine have admitedly been enslaving and attacking humans for its new 'porpuse', thus going even further and reversing its role from a tool for people, to people becoming its tool.
And the charry on the top that this broken machine have done so accoridng to an irational generalisation, against all humanity(even those that joined the Tau were not excluded) on the base of the sins of some memebers of the Inquisition and their asociets.
This is far more broken then a Matrix like machine, where the machine did not forsake the goal given by its human masters to serve humanity, but instead decided that it knows better then humans what is good for them, and thus decided to become their Hegemon to save them from themselves.
The AI wanted to leave humanity for good reason. Humans wouldnt let it and tried to destroy it.
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Chaos and the imperium and the tau deserve no reign over humanity we deserve our own destiny not slavery
So funny how the AI is insulted by how primitive humans have become, yet the Dark Age of tech, and golden age were not much better. For all the hype we're fed by writers about how advanced humans used to be, whenever we see a functional STC, or encounter tech from that period, it's pure, smoking garbage. The baneblade is from that period, and it's beyond laughable at how trash the design is. The metalurgy? Are you kidding? Supposedly this advanced, near trancendent level of tech, yet they still subscribe to "bigger is better" and slap thicker and thicker armor on it because they lack the ability to develop meta materials that can offer protection whilst being light and thin just like every other scifi race in history?
When you hear of supposed UFO's and flying saucers are they blocky, and weighed down by primitive heavy metals? Nope, they are ultra-light and seem to defy the laws of physics, yet are still impenatrable.
How about the fact it's stuck with internal combustion engines, uses freaking tracks like an ancient tractor, is slow and plodding as they failed to develop an engine powerful enough to drive it at anything resembling reasonable speeds, has pathetic sensors that easily get confused by "dust storms" and sand storms in the novels, gets stuck in the sand, and is cramped, hot, and dangerous to be inside?
THIS is supposed to be impressive eh? Pretty much every time I've seen the product of an STC, it's been dog-crap. If these are examples of the peak of mankind, then let's just say they haven't exactly fallen THAT far. Maybe lost a few hundred years at most, and the rest is just hyperbole from what we've seen.
Of course, this could all be fixed if the writers would use their brains and creativity to give us something impressive instead of laughably primitive tech. Even the men of iron were an enormous letdown from what we've encountered in the novels. Waiting to be impressed.