Jacinta Ruru: Co-governance is an opportunity for New Zealand | Q+A 2022
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 เม.ย. 2022
- Professor Jacinta Ruru, co-author of the report He Puapua, explains her vision for co-governance in Aotearoa New Zealand.
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Co-governance has got to be one of the dumbest ideas ever. Everyone should have the same political rights. End of story. Come on NZ
Correct !!!
Totally agree
Me to
@@janetihaka799 agreed by me and many many NZers !
We have never had the same political rights, obviously you weren't listening on here.
Sadly there is a big difference between Manakitanga (hosthamship) and how co governance plays out when you have bolshy proud young maori bulldozing their way through local communities, through their elders in a mad rush to gain power. My experience after working for years with maori rangatira, is that I have seen newcomers sometimes straight out of university, still in nappies, in so much of a rush to reap the rewards they walk all over and ignore the Little Red Hen produced over decades of devoted work. It is sad to see so many iwi boards trampling on both their own elders, their own heritage and on pakeha in the community who also have wisdom to share. in the process. There are of course many respectful young maori willing to learn but those that are in a rush to control the reins of power and money are all too often closer to the arrogant ignorant type who already know too much to be taught.
''proud'? arrogant
and the bolshy bulldozing pakeha doing similar stuff Stephen? Is it only wrong if you are a bolshy bulldozing Maori young person? A lot of necessary change is predicated by bolshy bulldozing younger people......but I take your point.
Tino pai raua atu tou korero.
I agree, we certainly do have many of our young ones with a new found education, desperate to dive in and take the reigns of power from those older or perhaps more wiser.
That's said, education is key and whether or not it may seems to be messing with the established institution, sometimes a fresh perspective can be valuable and centric to Iwi wider needs and certainly have their place in Iwi governance.
We must also remain mindful that appointments of younger skilled whanau into important Iwi roles are often supported and driven by forces and agendas within Iwi and Whanau that will give them a perceived slice or sense of Mana to act in the manner that they do, to challenge the institution and all that entails
This is usually the fault of existing governance bodies and their boards that do not put correct processes in place that will ensure clear rules of engagement and management along with clear accountability structures and practices to Board and stakeholders, these things can be exploited by these clever youngsters if not considered or importantly covered by the board.
This often fuels the wild imaginations of the.people and generates anger mistrust and misunderstanding.
For an academic they seemed unwilling to discuss or even acknowledge other perspectives on the governance issue. No a great example of critical thinking.
Remove them from our university’s as it is we the taxpayer whom pays them.
Thé Treaty of Waitangi did nothing of the sort; it was an agreement of governorship by the Crown with all the protections and benefits that that afforded both Maori and Pakeha
Thank you Susette💕the "Declaration of Independence 1835" is the document to focus on as well. This relates to Queen Victoria and is also like the Treaty Star mapped. In order to have clarity we must ascend to a Spiritual perspective also as everything is connected. God bless you and family. 🙏😇🕊️💖🎇
@@eugenerewi9076 The Treaty of Waitangi was entered into originally at the request of Maori chiefs who wanted their endlessly at war tribes to come under the governance AND PROTECTION of Queen Victoria. So much ignorance of history among kiwis
@@susettemclachlan8765 Governance and protection means governance of protection of British citizens. Governance does not usurp absolute sovereignty.
@@ex_orpheus1166 with that governance came centuries of benefits including Māori language literacy
@@susettemclachlan8765 They already had Māori language literacy prior to ‘governance’.
How do you separate people groups that are so intermarried ? We are one people in more ways than one
As long as they phrase it "Maori and everyone else" I want nothing of what they offer. NOTHING
Racist.
Nonsense. I choose a modern western multicultural liberal democracy not an ethno-dictatorship. If you want to see how that functions move to Africa. The treaty has been used as a political tool to segregate us and if we continue down this path it will have serious consequences.
And what would be those consequences jackass
Didn't answer any of the questions at all. She did nothing but straight dribble the entire interview. Only thing I got out of this is that she thinks this is a great opportunity for this country. Sounds like a Trojan horse to me.
what opportunity? we have 24% part moari in parliament already, statistically three times the population average for representation, and they are struggling
For a professor she uses “I Think “ a hell of a lot
Good grief. "Smiling assassin", "word salad", and "propaganda" were the only ideas that came to mind from that spiel. I've no idea in the world what she's actually advocating for, because she really didn't answer any questions without couching them in a complete re-interpretation of every word that came out of her mouth, like "democratic", and "amazing."
17% approximately of the population does not equate to a co-governance situation. Us and Them stuff is wrong. Lets just go forward together.
It's called virtue signalling . . . something Jacinda and lots of Californians seem to be good at (when a camera is pointed at them). This woman is a joke.
Australia has a referendum October 14 same day as your election.
Same world salad here on co governance. Isn't it weird?
Yes exactly, weird. Ours is probably more critical. Your referendum is basically a done deal - ie - a big no is expected. Our next step is to vote out the current government who is pushing the co - deal. The new govt may still hold a referendum on that though.
Guilt word salad. At the same time is strange. Many Australians don't know the similar word salads are happening here at the same time.
Un speech on free speech
Democracy is co-governance they are talking about Apartide.
moari are not indiginous , there came here by canoe
you are exactly correct the people who were here were decimated by Maori and had to seek sanction in the chathams where they were again preyed upon, but they think this ok for them but not when others do it to them. To be fair they did not start the wars it was a lack of talk by parties that got it all started as the British did not know that no one Maori had the right to sell land.
Load of garbage
This will be like the house of lords in the UK where you cant vote them out.....its undemocratic
I not sure what He Puapua is going to achieve. Maoridom already have their own political party -Te Pati Maori in parliament and there is a Maori Caucus in Labour. If Maoridom under the Treaty of Waitangi want more say in governing the country, put up more Maori candidates in all electorates whether general or Maori. We already have enough government bureaucracy now and don't want any more.
First,they (Maorí) should be New Zealanders,that would help them~
@@victoriaalexandrovnaegorova - Maori population are New Zealanders. I am not sure why you think they are not.
@@chrismckellar9350 i see POPULATION of them, but developed nowadays and intelligent at times~
@Chris McKellar
Because Maori want everything by Maori for Maori.
They want their own schools, their own courts, their own health system, their own orange tamariki, their own economy, their own government. And non Maori tax payers to pay for it.
How do non maori fit into what maori want for their "own people ".
Thats not the New Zealanders way that's the Maori way.
@@southpacific222 silly...they are small community any way,that's the way they proclaim,but not known worldwide,wise to be recognused as New Zealander. I don't feel comfortable under their taglines and phrases publicly. For the future, I don't want to see our big businesses,as ACCOR,Sofitel under their designation (for an instance)~
Wow there’s something “off” about her. She appears too nice but looks like she could snap at any moment at you! Lol. Kind of like a religious person at a commune.
She is a racist, sorry plastic pakaha, with "blue' eyes trying to push us into an Apartheid existance.
Yep like Marget Mutu.
One Kiwi one vote Voters able to vote out any lawmakers No to unelected Tribal leaders immune to the processes of democracy. No to racial separation in any aspect of life or governance
NZ belonged to Maori first. If anyone created racial segregation it was the colonials aka England which you are all part of. We are tangata whenua not all one people pffftt. I am NOT a NZer. Colonisation was based on racism and that’s exactly what you are spouting yourself. Racism. Period.
@@mwin3303 Actually, the Maori were not the first to NZ, but that is irrelevant. Missionaries came and were well accepted and the Maori turned away from killing, enslaving and eating one another. They invited the protection of Britain, which Britain gave reluctantly. The Maori went from a stone age culture to the modern world in just a few short decades. Colonisation was good for Maori. The Maori chiefs at the time of the signing of the Treat of Waitangi in 1840 with Britain and also the 1860 Kohimaramara Conference confirmed their gratitude for Christianity, European clothing, and European food. More than any other "indigenous" culture in the world, the Maori have benefitted immensely from European culture. Unfortunately, present politics has twisted the real history of NZ, so I can understand your incorrect understanding.
@@mwin3303 Science proves Maori was not the first peoples.
@@valeriehughes1008 what scientist? Who are they claiming is first? Where is the accepted scientific evidence?
@@markmunroe5919 poppycock. Maori knew the European lust for colonial expansion was taking land, resource and control from communities around the world. India, Australia, America to name a few. All the indeginious peoples of those colonies have suffered tremendously. Whilst I'm unsure about the cogovernece documentation. I'm confident the chiefs signed with intent to support such an act as cogovernece whilst they in fact margaliainised and sistemically disabled to the point of genocide.
How would this work on issues like immigration? Maybe okay at the moment but it could be a different world in 100 years and the decisions made now will be still standing. Stop reducing and start increasing New Zealand equality.
"It's time now it's 2022" - the year is just a number and should never be used as a reason to do something. There are a lot of Maori MPs in parliament right now and that's good. The amount of double speak in this clip from Ruru is dizzying
none of what she says can be backed with facts, actual facts
One people created by God.
Everything else is racist.
These people are evil.
But it is well known established fact that the power of the country is in the hanz of 16% of the population.
Agree 👍
Heres an idea, why not treat all New Zealanders equally? And don't copy Canada, people are leaving in droves.
Yes agreed we are not Canada :/We are original New Zealand people :)
Yes and I'll pack up my family and leave and I'm 53 years old and a 4 generation New Zealander .
Canada under Trudeau, is no example to follow.
He asks "Does the vision articulated break with the democratic principle of one person one vote?" She avoids answering this basic question directly but rather goes into a long spiel, the summation of which is yes. Not sure why Tame let her get away with that. Imagine if that was a National MP being interviewed..
this interview like all the others legacy media run are scripted, the questions are viewed beforehand and even often rehearsed to make sure theres no slip up in the wordsmithing... make no mistake, the cabal has fine tuned its propaganda outlets
Thanks for the warning,
She neither heard nor answered any of the points put by the interviewer. I have watched the development of these race-based policies for years. Once again the myth of "Maori" being somehow disadvantaged is trotted out to justify their argument. Thankfully I now live in Australia where I don't have to listen to this level of self delusion.
Well the same thing is on the agenda in Australia with the Aboriginal people. The difference is that the Aboriginals are the indigenous people of the land whereas the Maori arrived in NZ by boat from somewhere else much like the Europeans that followed.
And stay there your not welcomed bacj
@@eugenerewi9076 Ah well actually I would be because most NZ'rs are not Racist. But I guess playing the "victim" suits your narrative.
@Glenn Urquhart everything on here I about races
A woman who is more European than Maori lecturing us on a partnership between Europeans and Maori. Give me a break.
Be fair! it could have been Dutch or French speaking let alone the more global language of Maori.
It’s not an opportunity it’s a major step backwards.
Its an "opportunity" for her to seize power by creating an apartheid state.
There needs to be more respect by young maori of Pakeha Whenua, not onlyTangata whenua. There are at least as many pakeha who have a deep connection to this land and devotion to it as their are in maoridom. The land is an inheritance from our Creator. Stewardship is the fundamental responsibility we have in our relationship with the land. It is shameful when present day maori denigrate Pakeha Whenua on the basis of a difference of a mere few centuries between the arrival of our forbears who arrived by sail, stars and seamanship..
We need mutual respect, not the kind of bulldozer mentality I have experienced from a number of Johnny come Lately maori managers or iwi trust board folk. Leadership, whether maori or pakeha is meant to be deeper than that. It's not about power. It's about respect, privilege and responsibility, towards God, the whenua, elders and specialists, and towards those who live in our community or relate to our land. We need to beware of formal institutions that include only crown and iwi and cut out genuine and deep interests of Pakeha and wider NZ society.
That's spot on thanks Stephen.
Why now? Maori leaders have proven not to listen to its people in the last 2 years. In regards to health Mental/physical housing etc.
Why not?
Should of been done a century ago.
@@nextelectionwereverseitall Maori leaders should put itself in a position to remain sovereign. If Maori decide to get in bed with a treasonous Government don't cry when the snake bites.
@@chastautoko7177 and by now we would be the worst third world country try the simple things first looking after your children and getting a job.
@@nextelectionwereverseitall because it wouldn't be a democracy and our forefathers fought and died so we live under a democracy pretty simple really you simple person.
DITCH THE TREATY. One person one vote.
Open up the books and show us how much co governance will cost each year. 1 million ? 10 million ? 100 million? We cannot make an informed decsion without knowing this.
An Upper House!!!...that's exactly what we need more Government, more parasites....no thanks. At no stage does she articulate what co-governance actually means, just plenty weasel of words and obfuscations (she is a Law Professor after all). Maori already have seats at the table, as of 2020 20% of MP's were of Maori descent, with the Maori population at 17.5% (2021) representation looks about right. If there are "wonderful" opportunities then lay them out in the open and let the people decide. I'm tired of the Government hiding behind the "Representing the Crown" BS, you represent and are answerable to all people in NZ, King Charles doesn't get to vote.
it behooves me that academia fail to know the history of the country and the reasons for Maori asking for a treaty , they never invited Europeans to the land of new zealand, they traded with the whalers and sealers, and settlers which where coming here, learning the benefits of western society, all the while warring amongst themselves taking slaves and dwindling their population numbers, they asked the king to come and treat with them to sort law and order amongst the tribes and settler , no where in that process was co governance ever disgust, they seeded sovereignty plain and simple for protection against the lawlessness of the waring tribes , Maori received what they asked for , no modern interpretation can change that, history is history, making it up as you go along is a lie and we all know this,
Sounds like cultural segregation in a P.C. box. Them verses us. Why do we never learn? Lets just be equal and bring our children up knowing we forgave our differences and chose democratically to be as one people. Residents of Earth. Equal and Loved.
100% argreed Al Sutton, we are all equal, people from the earth :) Living in a mass multi culture New Zealand and we should have freedom of mind n choices to learn, love anything in life. Team work Al Sutton and change of government
@@pauldansby8285 try saying that to China or India.
Democracy is co-governance they are talking about Apartide.
@@chastautoko7177 go find your children mate I'll give you a hint they'll be in a stolen car backed into a liquor store.
The Treaty says nothing of the sort. But of course Maori see it as an opportunity. He Puapua sees everything, including minerals, water, and the air we breath as "taonga" - i.e. a treasure on which a royalty can be rightly claimed and extracted from everyone else. In other words Maori want a free ride at everyone else's expense - who wouldn't (as a Maori) think that's a wonderful idea? And in He Puapua, it even mentions petroleum as a taonga, something that Maori had no knowledge or understanding of whatsoever. Surprisingly, however, it failed to mention sunlight or solar energy, but the list of taonga was not intended to be exhaustive - just "by way of example." After all, we know that Maori have a claim to the airwaves and if He Puapua proceeds wind and (sea) wave power generation claims are just around the corner. Make no mistake, He Puapua is an outrageous "wish list" based on being of Maori ancestry (how much no one has quantified, but there are few, if any, full blooded Maori on Earth left) and of being of the "right" tribe or connections that the NZ Labour Party is keen to enforce on all New Zealanders. If you don't know NZ, people who identify as Maori have been leaders of political parties, Governor's General, Head of Govt Depts. and of business Corporations and some have achieved world acclaim in their sphere of activity. Here we have a Professor (there are many that identify as Maori), who has had the same opportunity as everyone else. So, surely this is enough? No, for Maori (and I qualify that in terms of activists and politicians of Ruru's ilk), it is never enough!
She is a plastic pakeha, piece of racial danger, OMG and we, the majority are just sitting back and letting this happen....
With Maori it will never be enough their greed is boundless - a very unhealthy attitude to pass on to their children... want, take with no work!
@@valeriehughes1008 The additional bad news Valerie is that this revisionist view point, which includes such patent divisive nonsense that Maori never ceded sovereignty, is what is now to be peddled not just to Maori, but to all NZ children under the new education framework and I'm not just talking of the history curricula. This and other reforms are creating an ethno-state and the future for all looks bleak.
@@valeriehughes1008 Amen to that Valerie. we need to STOP this rubbish treaty claim department, as you say they will NEVER stop sucking money...
As a maori finally we get to have it all suckers
Jacinta and Jacinda sound very alike, must've got the same training.
Would like to see her debate co-governance with Elizabeth Rata
we certainly dont need any Co -governance in anyway shape or form. it seems to me that Maori always want something and it should be stopped as lets face it we are all KIWIS and all have the same rights. So we should just get on and try and live our lives together
I’m sure very few people would argue with the principles of the Waitangi tribunal. The problem with that is maori just saw that as the thin end of the wedge and a weakness which they will continue to exploit until someone has the guts to stop it, or ordinary New Zealanders who have been here generations rise up against as the become more and more disenfranchised.
@Robin Tamihere totally agree with you Robin.
@Robin Tamihere maori have the same rights as all new Zealanders! I would argue that they have more rights in some spaces! Maori have it way better now then they did 50-60 years ago!
So, if I’m in a partnership in a business and I own 17.4% of the shares, then I have a 17.4% say in how that business is run. Māori are already represented in parliament by over 17.4% of seats, so surely they are already on the winning side in NEW ZEALAND.
@robintamihere4550 Yea thats some real nazi sounding shit about having the right pure racial blood entitling you to the land.
But the fact is people who were born in NZ and who grow up there during their formative years are all New Zealanders and all equally entitled to our country.
It doesn't matter how "pure" your blood is. As for being Indigenous. White New Zealanders have been in NZ for almost as long as Maori had been when the first White New Zealanders arrived. They are just as indigenous at this point.
And the UN is a corrupt organization run by elite bankers trying to socially engineer their stupid utopia.
I don't agree that races should have representation in government proportional to their percentage of the population.
If there were a ton of good Maori politicians and people were electing them then that's all that matters even if they ended up being 99% of the government.
Same if they ended up being only 1%. All that matters is that everyone gets to vote, the elections are fair, and that the media isn't controlled by any one faction and allows the truth to be told and everyone to have their voice heard.
A blueprint of how to turn the moderate middle into right wing...good lord.
He twice asks the "one person one vote" questiion. She rambles endlessly, but does not answe the question. And he lets her get away with it.
Jacinta is on the bong ...
She's not all there. A lot of buzz words. Absolute insanity
A pretty sketchy definition of democracy. 15% of the population having 50% of the decision making. The author is a dreamer with a vision which will place Maori at the top of the social hierarchy thereby making all others subservient.
You. Seem to know subservient , , ,
Take a look at south Africa in the pass and what's happening now. The 10% of white people there ruled 100% of the country so you had the minority ruling over the majority but now the tables have turned. But you are not an indigenous member of aotearoa so you will never be connected to this country like the tangata whenua are
She doesn't define "co-governance!" She talks all around it, but never defines it. NZ already respects the Treaty of Waitangi.
she says exactly what it is, over and over. What were u wanting to hear? She said there were details to be worked out...that this was a vision and an opportunity...and the time is now....or ripe for this 150 years after the treaty. I am proud and not afraid of this document, as a pakeha kiwi.
I'm really trying to wrap my head around this stuff from multiply angles and all i got here is co governance is good and you have to take away to gain ???
part moari and non moari, last full blooded moari died in the 1950's.
answer the questions lady. dead simple. Moari are not indegenous, they arrived here, aborigine are indegenous, they have no other land they came from
Be careful about what you are wishing for...
Here's a few of my thoughts on this topic, because I do think it is important to New Zealand and I do care about New Zealand as a whole. What I see is fundamentally wrong with the status quo is two different sides of the same coin. On the one side of the coin we have the crown that is built on domineering upper class entitlement and abuse of land and privilege that sought to conquer for materialistic gain and then on the other side of that same coin we have Maori entitlement to land beyond generations and Maori privilege, both are bad for various reasons.
What I saw with the flag debate in the John Key era was a longing from Key to bring a new sense of national identity but yet he loved mixing with the upper echelon of society aka the Royal family, but guess what? They are just people ole Johnny boy they are just people, that is it. What there needs to be is internal an external moral consistency that is transformative and not putting one group against each other, if you are seeking to change the flag then be morally consistent change the dynamic with which we view the crown, become a republic that is a fair democracy, one person one vote, trim down bureaucrats for a season til we get our books in order and at the same time honour and respect Maori and pakeha not lifting up or putting down one group ove the other. To heal generational wounds there must be forgiveness from both sides, but I see a clearer path forward one where we celebrate the multi ethnic colour that is New Zealand. The reason why the flag didn't pass is because there was a dichotomy present I was for the new flag change but it needed to be coupled with a fresh constitution of equity.
Lifting up races as superior or inferior or entitled is in actuality wrong at its core. Forgiveness and a fresh path forward not idolizing the past is the answer. I respect any position that takes us away from crown upper class entitlement and Maori entitlement they are both immature and quite frankly delusional positions.
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This is apartheid. Them and us. We are all people regardless of colour or race.
100% Apartheid if it ever got over the line, one minority group of the population having far more power than the greater majority. Maori never formed a country before Europeans arrived as they were too busy fighting each other, all together we formed the country of New Zealand.
Does this mean that you can eat your nextdoor neighbour if there is a dispute?
I’m amazed she’s looking at the camera and jack at the same time great skills
If this ever comes to fruition, I'm leaving the Country. There's already enough division in this country and she sounds brainwashed and delusional.
We can't even have a sensible discussion in NZ about who is REALLY a Maori in 2023 without being called a racist. Apparently if you are 95% German and 5% Maori you are a Maori, that's some creative maths going on. The reality is there are VERY few 50%+ Maori left in NZ, and it should not even need to be a discussion in a modern democracy anyway. The Treaty of Waitangi is as an abysmal poorly written ambiguous short document from 150+ years ago, the Crown absolutely did not intend to "Co-Govern", its intended to give Maori equal rights within the governance of the Crown. The Crown is now "largely" replaced by our modern elected democratic government, where every Maori gets a vote the same as everyone else.
@Robin Tamihere I have read both the Maori and English versions and in both Maori ceded rule to Queen Elizabeth and Crown. Did you know the Maori version is only 470 words long?, I am not kidding read it yourself!. If you buy a house the contract is usually 20,000+ words.
@Robin Tamihere mate read it yourself before commenting further, it's literally a 3 minute read lol
@Robin Tamihere John Key was in no way removed, If you are going to rely with such a long post loose all the crazy stuff. As for your first paragraph, NZ is a wealthy developed democracy lets try and keep it that way, you do not want to live in Zimbabwe V2 following a similar misguided path. You were not alive 170+ years ago, neither was I, don't expect me to support NZ moving away from a modern democracy where no one vote has more power than another.
@Robin Tamihere lol no one was kicked out of the UN and John Key cannot be removed by anyone but his own party. I am not sure what's going on with you, but you clearly have your own version of reality and I will leave it at that :)
We are all Indigenous Earthlings.
Your on a different planet. What you are saying to the rest of nz. Up you. Maori comes first in everything. 17%. Rule this place. What happened to everyone is equal. What happens to all kiwi's, who are not Maori, or parkeha, what about Indian, Asian, USA Canada, UK, and the rest of the world, who now live here. You only give special rights to Maori. Which is racist, like South Africa use to be. Shame on you. You are better than this. If you want to be part. Stand for parliament.
Bring back Winston!
October 14 in Australia is a referendum on this same gobble speak
This was offered to Maori right from the start.. we have had Maori politicians in government all along . Haven't Maori been allowed medical care from the government just as every other citizen and resident. They have and are recognized as New Zealanders.
Democratic NZ do we get to have a vote democracy on co governance
What a weak interview. She talked in circles and didn't answer many of the questions, but he never called her out on it.
I Say do it!!! Then when you see how bad it is you can change it back haha
Omg 😱 horror , the privileged few .. Jacinda ADERN has a lot to answer for . It’s only the mixed Māori that have made contribution. This is bullshite!! I don’t live there anymore and what’s happening is dangerous. They’ve always been given more than pakeha , it’s always been unbalanced and I personally don’t like it. Destroying my childrens and grandchildrens future .. they’ve been given so much , billions.. hate it. My fathers family were pioneers and developed a lot of Wellington . That would never have happened left to the warring tribes who ate their victims . Māori we’re not first , Mori ORI were , and Māori decimated them .. it’s absolutely bullshite . The smallest percentage of the total population , doing their best to control New Zealand 🇳🇿 and New Zealanders.. horrific Māori came from Tahiti , exploring the pacific , just like many others before and later . The control they’re trying to achieve is a disgrace , Jacinda ADERN is letting this happen , she’s an evil woman . For the record , I’d very much like if all the land that belonged to my ancestors in Wellington was returned to the family now , it’s rightful owners . The city would belong to them . It’s truly irresponsible what’s occurring in my home country . The elite so called group grabbing everything
Did Maori ask to be made beneficiaries in their own lands of Aotearoa NZ 1840???
Colonial government high jacked the 1840 treaty making past and present governments trustees , , , and the rest Maori n non Maori becoming beneficiaries , , , , who lost out losing 66 million acres? N their natural resources becoming a trading item to offshore intrists, , ,
Where in the future will NZs natural Springwater water be shipped
It's so good that you don't live in aotearoa anymore just like your ancestors don't live here anymore
@Jandeana spoken like a true colonist. And by colonist, I mean violent illegal immigrants who decimate all pre-exising population and start believing that they own everything.
It took more than 200 years to recognize Matariki as a public holiday, while Christmas and Easter were holidays from day 1. Co-governance is needed to reverse this bull shit, spread by colonial Pakeha.
@@sethkritarth my ancestors were not violent destructive destroying people . They built homes for all their workers , provided food income housing shelter , valued those who would work . Built the harbour , Wellington city , and more , I’m proud of how they helped people , not destroy and take by false claims. In fact further research shows Māori came from a very small tribe in china originally! Even here in Australia Māori are destructive , criminal activity is what they’re about as in New Zealand . It’s sad that it’s not changed ,tho’ there are those I’ve spoken with who’ve said , they’ve had better lives by leaving New Zealand and working for what they’ve built and lead better lives . Facts
@@Jandeana Who do you think those homes and harbor etc. were built to benefit? Lol. They were built to sustain the European population to settle, drive natives off their land, farm sheep and beef, and export back to Britain, in short, infrastructure to systematic exploitation. British colonizers like yourself love to take credit for these things, e.g. Britain credits themselves for building trains in India, in reality, the trains were built to transport resources and slaves to sell, in normal coach cars, there used to have boards saying, "dogs and Indians are not allowed".
By gun or by diseases, your ancestors are murderers of ~87% of native population, and every bit of white privilege you have, is because of the benefits of the crimes against humanity by your ancestors. Its disgusting that you have the audacity to portray the murderers as heroes and the oppressed as perpetrators.
ka rawe e te Ruru
Unfortunately the money goes to the Māori high up and will not benefit the poor Māori.
we should just give it all back and live on pincan island
When people start nearly every sentence with "so"", I immediately doubt their reasoning/arguments/comments/ideology.
Waiuku makes you think of tides (Waiuku River / Estuary), very nice indeed but without English colonization we would still hunt each other tribes in the bush, now you can say development leads to global warming and bush hunt doesn't... force Maori names for institutions but you won't go back to hunting - the economy must still provide - bringing back the past only sets us now into a weird mixed language Babel Tower mess... I know that if you forget your past you may not have a future, every culture runs away from its past at some point then suddenly everybody must feel sorry or guilty... weaponize guilt for material or political gain, right? - great plan for the future!
That was hard to watch. Ami the only one that really dislikes it when she says “aotearoa New Zealand”?
Just a question these "Maori" seen to be very white, what % do you need to have to be considered Maori, just asking....
What is wrong with the Maori Council? Where are those councillors? Why do they not step up and support their entity? Maori already have the same rights and their voice is just as loud as every other person's voice that speaks up!. . . This woman is advocating for that which we already have. . . I don't trust any Maori agents of the Government.
Anyone using today's Canada as a model is a great reset ambassador
Confused
Vote ACT in 2023 if you value Democracy
100% Apartheid if it ever got over the line, one minority group of the population having far more power than the greater majority. Maori never formed a country before Europeans arrived as they were too busy fighting each other, all together we formed the country of New Zealand.
I find my self agreeing at this point
She never answers the questions, she just talks around them
15% means at least 50% or so Maori think. Normal NZ's won't get a say.
@@W61K Yep, I am also noticing a suspicious over representation of Maori in top government department jobs, not to mention all departments getting renamed in Maori, I doubt even most Labour supporters voted for this.
Māori decision making means someone else will always pay!
With very little out come!
Can't see any Maori in her...🤔
@Jester Wens If you did a genetic test she would be at least 80% European. Most Maori are more European than Polynesian.
@Jester Wens tired of the truth huh, it kind of gets in the way of your racist agenda being mixed doesn't it
@Jester Wens congrats on being mixed, mixed identity
@Jester Wens yet you're mixed, so you're still in denial
How Maori do you have to be to count as Maori?
When Maori tribes conquered other Maori tribes, were they concerned with rights and treaties?
Jesus H. Christ... 😕 Is she Jacinda's waffle coach?
I thought we were against apartheid
The typical maori response to anything they seen as against them is intimidation, shouting and violence. Why would any sane NZer want more of that? Democracy means equal rights for all, which is what we’ve had, remember Sir Apirana Ngata? Maori have held themselves back with their constant blaming of their own shortcomings on others. There are good and bad in all races, and the people at the top use the others to divide and cause problems. Ordinary people just want to be happy and healthy and live their lives.
No no no.
The first nation deserves a government & a new palairment
It better to get king Charles 3 the head of commonwealth to approvals of this
If he doesn't like it then it can't be implemented
Why have general role & Maori role??
Who are these 'indigenous people' that she talks about? Maori are NOT indigenous to New Zealand. And they are NOT the fist to arrive and settle in New Zealand.
Why won't she answer the questions? Woke double speak. Maori already have a say. 7 out of 9 leaders and deputies were maori after the 2017 elections. Unelected seats is NOT democratic.
Stop trying to rewrite history. The Maori ceded sovereignty to the crown. End of story. They saw a much better future in this. Also, stop the bullsh@t about colonialism.
Well co governence is all gone now a new, government with all minority ideology recognised for what it is that is everyone should be equal one government one people.
When you have steel GPS nylon sonar propellers fridges ships and motorized transport
Then oppose every marine reserve government isent the right word.
When you exist with such change inovation and prowess as a typical human most gleam the impact and stupidity of not addressing balancing such impact.
It's called maths its called two edged sword.
This lady needs to look up the meaning of the word democracy.
17% of them things either people like them in parliament
When will we celebrate the major advances that Europeans brought to New Zealand - when will we recognise the waring factions between Maori tribes before Europeans arrived? Yes there were lots of things that Europeans did wrong but these are swamped by the things they did right - and now we have some patronising academics telling us that we should embrace Maori... with no mention of our own attributes. This will not end well. Anti-European racism is alive and well under Jacinda Arderne's government.
Completely agree with this statement most sense I’ve seen on here. I made this point a while ago and got labelled as “Racist”.
@Richard Ireland and you are racist
Increased complexity is not always going to make things work better, and there are many who do not believe or want to consider that Maori people and their culture have anything worth contributing, either through blind bias or through blatant ignorance, other cultures would rather stick to a worldview that enables their power base and reduces others powerbase. Let's face it, Maori want more power to control things, and that idea scares many non-maori.
Unhinged
Keep up the good globalist's agenda Jack
What a joke wake up , why should we give 50 percent of the house to someone how hasn’t earned it ! They get way more opportunities than pakeha people !! Benefits housing ect if they could forget the past and stop blaming everyone else for there problems we could all move on and live together as one !
first they trampled on and ignored he whakaputanga, then the created, te tiriti o waitangi and ignored that as well, now their crying because their scared about losing their hopes and their dreams not giving a damn they conspire to protect their crimes of receiving stolen property!
Lazy useless Maori looking for Handouts
Don’t make sense at all
Typical lawyer speak...Westminster system at work....go figure.
It's all bull shit...
White women knows what's best
How many times did she say " i think " Well, she can still go on thinking. We do not agree. She took advantage of western education, and is of maori/ european race.
No thankyou
Absolute truth Jacinta!
Lol get bent wokeist