Yes same here. Such a rich conversation and so proper in every way. I couldn’t possibly manage this. These topics need a degree in literature with a major in philosophy, and maybe a masters in politics and cinema lol
There are times where you can’t pull people out of a dark hole, all you can do is go and sit there with them for a while and be totally present and hold the space from a place of love
What if it becomes clear that this person has been in this hole for a very long time and there is little to no chance of them ever allowing themselves to leave this state?
@@locked3724 You still can't abandon them. You still have to give it a try. You wouldn't want others to abandon you in your dark times so you can't walk away from someone else. If nothing else, you've given them companionship for a while.
That story about Derren Brown's ex partner's terminally ill mother made me feel incredibly moved, as it proves a human genuineness, warmth and authenticity about Russell Brand.
♥I remember that story from Darren but didn't think it was just from this recording. But I agree with you and add that since it was a private conversation (of half-forgotten moment) it places Russell further into realms authentic - ever shrinking at least by and/or even according to media and it's own standards.
@@djosearth3618 yeah. It gave him credence at the beginning of the conversation.. Darren is adept at controlling the script. But, I believe in Russel and believe the circumstances happened.
Russell, I am so impressed with your talent, breadth, depthe, and scope of your mastery of personal and interpersonal relations...Ive been a Dr since 1998 and I am so humbled by your understanding human nature. You have a brand new fan. Many thanks.
Very interesting that Derren keeps complimenting Russell on being present with strangers. I met Derren after his show on his first UK tour, some 15 years ago now. He took time to meet and talk to a queue of people. He was funny, kind and engaging with everyone, he was open and warmer than his on-stage persona. Lovely man.
Me too! The first time I met him was after watching his second stage show ‘Something Wicked This Way Comes’ (in Gravesend, Kent). There was only me and a few others waiting for him as he wasn’t famous then. But the fifth time I saw him was a completely different story! It took ages to wade through the fans at stage door to get him to sign my two books of his. 😬🤓
The depth of these type of conversations took me years of both personal and traditional academic education to comprehend. Even look at Russell's notes and talking points. This is really well done and amazing. Thank you.
Im not wordsmith. But Owen you explained it accurately as well. I suppose my lacking vocabulary may reach similar folk as me who are hands on so any clarifications make the process much more streamlined. 🙏😘🧠🤓
That was touching, how Russell shared a moment with his partners mother. Sometimes people just need to be recognized and given an ear to hear. He set her at ease by showing concern an putting her at ease. Empathy goes a long ways. Who would have thought? He’s precious! ❤️
Aye but did you notice Mr Precious couldn’t remember it taking place, shows you how far his obsession with himself stretches. Sorry I shouldn’t be on here, he does my head in , sorry again!
@@johngibb3802 It seemed like that story was some Derren Brown influence trick. That whole story seemed out of place and felt like he was trying to take control of the conversation.
Just a wonderful conversation..I could listen to them all day. Russell is a really underrated interviewer as he never starts totally rambling about his own opinions, he let's the guest talk and it feels like a lovely natural conversation...absolutely outstanding stuff
Can relate to what Derren said he wanted 'proper' conversation. It's about really connecting and being open. Glad I found this. Just read Derren's book Confession of A Conjuror and enjoyed how he thinks. Great and stimulating conversation. Thanks Russell and Derren.
This is the most interesting conversation I have watched two people have in my life and I spend the majority of my free time, when I ever have any, watching people on the net ( not TV ) conversing about different enlightening subjects. Well done, peace.
They say we have the ability to heal ourselves I believe that when I had 3 strokes they said you'll always be paralyzed I didn't accept that..when the paralysis started to dissipate I asked the physical therapist will I ever be able to run again she said you need to put that out of your head I didn't accept that I was able to eventually run a little 2 years later however painful so your own mind can have an affect on your health.
Maybe your body would of healed regardless of your mind? The doctors are not always right, most of the time they are just guessing on the extent of illness or disease and have no clue how much the body is going to internally heal itself or not. If your body was destined physically to never walk again then no amount of will power is going to make that happen. I understand though that people like to take ownership of their achievements, even if they are sometimes pure luck, thats our narcissistic side expressing itself.
@@kylenegould5420 Im not sure they have a capitalist agenda, probably they just dont want to give you false hope and tell you you're going to skipping down the road in a few weeks, it would be more empathetic to play down the recovery and let the persons natural hope guide them to a level of recovery that they are comfortable with, that way they wont feel like a failure if they dont hit the doctors optimistic targets of recovery. Regardless, well done on your recovery, and you have every right to be proud of yourself for the hard work you've done to achieve it.
@@docholiday8315 thank you..i live in Chicago they have one of the highest rates of healthcare fraud the doctors and health workers here are unfortunately that greedy and uncaring and they will lie just unbelievably to get paid they ruined my medical records forever by lying about my condition to get paid more to this day they have epilepsy on my record they refuse to remove it all though it's a lie...chicago is on a corrupt police state level most people could never comprehend.
@@kylenegould5420 Sorry to hear that it sounds horrendous. I'm from the U.K where we have a government funded national health service, there is not much corrupt money to be made in healthcare here so it's not too bad. If healthcare becomes privatised in this country though then im sure we would start to see problems of that nature too. Best wishes from across the pond.
I have watched your videos for about 3 months now, Older like this one and new. What you have shown me was how much I need to work on myself on NOT putting people in a box of just one thing. We are all so complex and when we open our minds we have so much common ground to build on. Thank you.
I really enjoyed this podcast. Derren opened up alot more on this podcast than when he appeared on Joe Rogan. The friendship these two have really came through and opened up the conversation. Brilliant. Thoroughly enjoyable.
I absolutely love your kind warm and openness to all thoughts and ideas and concepts as you learn and grow from new ideas or those ideas that you may even disagree! You have truly loving energy about you. It's really lovely!
Love Russell’s point/question at 34:00 - Would love to see Derren do something solely based on the manipulation of social media, taking on the subject matter of The Social Dilemma documentary.
Half way through and a minor thing I noticed, but very telling of both of them. There were no, or very few "ums" and "ahs" in this conversation. Well spoken and intelligent guys. I love these real conversations so much more than mainstream scripted interviews 👍
I absolutely LOVED Derren growing up, always recognized his intelligence in his performances but never knew he was such a sensitive and self inquiring soul. What a beautiful man
I can't relate to Instagram or snap. I feel like those things were put in place to keep our minds completely distracted. What I've realized in the past few years is that life is more than looking glamorous and perfect. Showing love and empathy goes a lot farther. Peace and love come with not being obsessed with others acceptance. Give yourself 5 stars regardless of others approval. Happy Easter! Positive vibes everyone.
Yes I agree.When we stop seeking approval we realise it not only releases us,but it also gives freedom to others as well.We are less likely to judge when we no longer fear the judgement of others.
I'm so glad to see your comment as i feel the same way about social media too everyone i meet is shocked that i don't have instagram twitter or snap. Life is a lot more peaceful and enjoyable without those sites they are just a horrible distraction from real life experiences and growth,stay beautiful and positive vibes right back at you :)
Right, you exist regardless of that pat on the head. By yourself or someone else, doesn't matter. Being connected and open to all there is to offer is the best state to be in.
@@Youbarkimeow Virtual reality will never replace natural experience...just a trick to generate money and gain control. People think I'm odd because I stopped watching the Tv 8 years ago...But I see that most of them lack any true gumption.Thanks for responding Tara...Keep up the resistance my friend. ((-:
I wouldn't say Russell is INCREDIBLY intelligent..... He just has a larger than usual vocabulary and it's quite cultured and traveled from being famous and having opportunities none of the rest of us have
@@fletchy88 he understands quite a lot and can communicate it so that's fairly intelligent, Derren Brown is a genius but still has flaws that have humbled him. Either way, great watch.
Watched from start to finish. Two of my favorite people having an interesting conversation ..The most time I've ever spent watching a video on TH-cam : )
Hi. I am honoured to watch video with Russell Brand and Derren Brown, have a lot of respect for both of you. I got so much out of this talk, explaining awareness of awareness. The other day I was considering my original (core) trauma was when I became aware I am experiencing consciousness. I was going to suggest for you with language and talking with your 2 year old, instead of "I am angry", replace with "I am doing anger" or "I am doing tired" 'i am doing excitement". So the usefulness of the word doing helps to identify it as a passing state of experience, rather than creating it as part of your identity. This helps me a lot, not to become overwhelmed emotionally. Thank you both for this amazing video and for everything else your passions have drawn you to create and share with the universal consciousness (with people). I wish for you both nothing but the best in all things. Metta. Michelle
Positive mind, state of mind effects your life. Be positive, be nice to others your life will be better. Every day I feel blessed just to be here. I feel lucky everyday, have a wife and 2 kids that are amazing.Life is a gift all other stuff is a distraction
@U bik First off Darren's belief is Darren's belief he is human therefore his beliefs will alway be evolving (as illustrated by his views on atheism in this interview). What is in his book is his truth but not fact and it is something to take in and digest however way you wish. Now having said that, wtf are you on about? What you said basically just expands on what I said lol
What a quote. Seriously. I especially love how _affirmative_ it is. It's commanding respect.....and then explaining _why_ in such obvious terms. Love it!
Utterly brilliant. More Derren on your podcasts please Russ! Love how you look at topics with somewhat opposing viewpoints with such insight, compassion and understanding ❤
Many of the people around you may need to be shocked out of playing life, or gently coaxed out of it. I think all of us are capable of this deep thought, just not used to or practiced in it.
The reason you can’t find any is that people are afraid to do this because it makes them unpopular. That’s more important to them than philosophizing about life. I think one poet said most people go to their deaths with an unexamined life. They never asked what it was all about. It reminds me of Frank Burns in M*A*S*H “he had an original thought once but it died of loneliness.”
Me too..... I DESPISE people that "play life" ... like literally play fucking caricatures of themselves and have COMPLETELY different versions for different people!!!!!! HATE HATE HATE IT!!! Have some fucking BALLS and be who you ARE the EXACT same around EVERYONE at ALL times!!!!! And people like me who can actually do that get viewed as weirdos or awkward or micro aggression bla bla fucking bla...... NO..... no no no...... im just being MYSELF..... the real actual one.... not some fucking fake version to everyone you meet. Utterly PATHETIC. It's weak..... and pathetic.
Unfortunately most people get caught up in playing life. I myself have but have snapped out of it and just going with the flow enjoying life till I get to work lol 😆
2 brilliant minds discussing such interesting topics, I've been going through some tough times recently and just knowing that there are people put there who want to discuss these topics really helps, also reading the comments makes me feel less isolated, I'd love to talk, party or rave with so many of you. The Internet can be a force for good in the hands of people who are skeptical and open minded. Thanks Russel and Derren.
Could you please get Derren Brown and Jordan Peterson in a room together, their expertise in psychology and sociology are so on the polar ends of the spectrum I would love to hear them find some common ground. Anyone who agrees- like this comment to get Russell’s attention! Lol
Yeah it's really lovely to hear conversations from people who genuinely care. I've been pretty crap during lockdown too (live alone etc) I've found a lot of help from Russell, and actually Sam Harris' app has been good too
Thank you both. I love this. We are made to function perfectly. I find that Each emotion is to indicate whether I am heading towards or away from my life’s path. My mind finds me choices. Any discomfort/pain/disease is a calling for me to steer back into my path. Love and hugs 🤗
Love it! Russell sharing his enlightenment and Derren seeming to be very similar in outlook. And such a nice, self aware, humble man in spite of his extraordinary achievements. And such a warm rapport between these two gents.
Speaking to the common man with truth and love is the only way this message will get through.We all understand truth and love but the message out there from media is to hate others.To do the right thing has always been the hardest thing to do.
We all have traits of narcissism, I've always thought Russell your a warm lovely fella the first few mins just proves I was right. Also a recovering addict like many, many people i did 10months clean, had a bit of a session if you will two or three weeks ago which I'm absolutely gutted about and I'm certainly not telling people about, only ones I don't know. The guilt the next day was, crippling it really was I'm just glad I didn't continue to use in the following few weeks. I'm slowly learning you never leave the woods totally. I wish any addicts out their all the luck in the world, you can do it if I can anyone can. Misshap aside. For me I have to burn energy like there's no tomorrow. I'm as mad as a box of frogs, at the best of times. God bless everyone who reads this. I'm struggling with religion a bit, I've found my higher power its god for me and not Necessarily how most perceive god. Even without practicing religion proper just having a belief is extremely powerful. I need to get a bible I can actually read, I've got the tiny one that was bought for me as a baby. I digress.
You've got this mate. I also stumble from time to time but I'm beginning to realize what it means and what it takes to be a man. Purpose, integrity, discipline, courage. I found the SMART recovery system to be what suits me but I don't think that's enough on it's own, we have to enjoy the journey of discovery and mastery of both body and spirit. Wish you well on your quest.
I could literally see Russel being shy and paranoid that Derren was going to read his mind - So Derren hypnotised him in the first time he spoke to feel SUPER CONFIDENT and Russel lit up - and then the charming compliment. What a wonderful gift to be able to do that. Not manipulate them - but help them feel confident. Although Russel became really over bearing once he felt confident which was a shame. Although I do love Russel!! Vulnerability is lovely - people dont like feeling vulnerable and its sad. I dont like feeling it, was a huge reason why I used to drink, but I was more pleasant vulnerable than I was when I was a Piss head.
I just stumbled on this podcast today as something to listen to while working and I immensely enjoyed the conversation. I'd seen Derren's Netflix show, which is fantastic, but had no idea that he was so exploratory in his worldview/mindset. I really related to much of what was discussed. Thank you!
How does this have hundreds of dislikes? It's a weird type of human , that enters a conversation as a bystander , then sticks around to say they didn't like the content- nobody cares .... Most humans find Russel refreshing , and frankly Derren is a rockstar.. to come here just to dislike this shows the true negativity based support system some humans operate on.. I actually don't think I've dislikes a video ever- nobody forced me to be here so I move on if I'm not entertained. Doing an amazing job Russ keep it up.
I have never tried to show people any other version of myself and its only recently I've realized how uncomfortable that makes people who cant be themselves
Being real all the time scares people. It leaves a feeling that you expect them to be the same with you, which we do right? Thing is they don't want to get away from the routine they're in that provides them their comfort.
@@Adam-qs5ir Since I stopped being what others want me to be most of my lifelong 'friends' turned their back on me. Since I started being a real human being with independent thoughts. Even in social circles online if you don't conform to the theme / group narrative you are seen as a threat and often groups of people team up on me and especially women try to ridicule me for not conforming to what they want me to be. If my narrative doesn't support their illusion bubbles. It's quite sad, but most actually live in a fake world created for society. People buying social status based on their income / badge on their cars, etc. In most service positions people are respected for their ability to buy and that goes to their heads thinking they are more than they are until the money runs out. I use to entertain my friends and realized they put me in that box when I started having real problems due to a variety of issues, etc. Most constantly distract themselves with some substance or food, tv, shopping addictions and project the norms of the industries onto each other such as the beauty / fashion industry. Looking at another human beings shoes and then deciding if they deserve the respect of the women, etc.
@@francoisnel5253 completely agree mate..... People are pussy holes.... Scared to be themselves.... It's pathetic. You know why.... Because people aren't as happy and fucking smiles and jokes most of the time... Most of us most of the thing just want to fucking chill and shit the fuck up.... But that's not "outgoing" or sociable and is ACTUALLY.. unbelievably deemed a 'bad' thing..... It's fucking mental.... Introverts... Less friends.. Less respect.... Less everything.... It's pathetic... And ironically... The introverts are the ones who aren't actually scared to be themselves...... I personally believe most extroverts are just pretending for social status.... And it makes me sick. Pathetic.
Hmm. This comment made me think. I've realised that because of a lifetime of social constraints... I've actually lost touch with who I am, or was. It is too late to recapture the funny spontaneous lad I was...if I started behaving like that now, people would assume dementia. So I've repressed myself convincingly. Sad.
@@allosaurusfragilis7782 Likewise, but for me, it's to protect myself. Everyone seems to be out for themselves, and some will use manipulation as a tool and use people like vampires to suck them dry. Like a bottomless pit, draining them and moving on.
Excellent talk, I've recently been pondering that many of the issues in my own life are the result of an overactive avoidance of discomfort. It seems like the same impulse that's designed to keep us safe i.e. fire burns, so stay away from it, being injured hurts, so stay safe e.t.c. can also become too restrictive when applied to other forms of discomfort such as social discomfort, fear of the unknown for example.
I was one of the people that got "healed" on stage. It was so bizarre. I had been so stressed lately and my shoulders and muscles were super stiff and sore. So I decided, before Derren started, to believe 150% what he was doing was real. I mean, why not? He started and I got this adrenaline rush and I felt my shoulders relax and the blood rushed to my brain and everything became very vivid. He asked those who had felt change to come up on stage. I am super insecure and my heart was beating out of my chest but still I went to the stage and he asked me what had changed. I can't remember what I said because the adrenaline being on stage, having Derren Brown infront of me and everyone watching was rushing through my body and I just did what he told me. I think because I went into this willingly and decided to believe it and throw all doubts away I was able to feel the full effect of this "healing" process. The day after my shoulders were sore because of the adrenaline rush but my muscles were very relaxed. So in a sense, it worked for me XD and it's both scary and interesting to see how much BELIEVE in something can effect you mentally and physically.
It's the placebo effect... And before you think I'm knocking your experience, or undermining it, I'm not! I think the placebo effect is a marvelous ability our minds / bodies possess, and something that instead of ridiculing, people should learn to respect it and harness it! The word placebo has come to mean fake, not real, fooling yourself.... So people tend to not want to associate with it, in fact want to somehow prove to everybody that they are too "clever" to be so easily fooled. Whereas I feel like the cleverest people are those who tap into any and every resource available to them to get through a situation... And a lot of times in life, the ONLY resource available is to man-up, grow some balls, face the facts, mind over matter or whatever phrase you choose to call it. The power of our own sheer will and determination to get through something, pain, loss, grief, despair, fear, sadness etc, with no tools other than our ability to take it on, face to face, and rise up above it! In so many situations, that's all we have, and it's incredible! We have the ability to "believe" things are not as bad as they are, not too painful that we can't cope with it, not too overwhelming that we'll crumble and fail in front of everyone. Whether it's mantras, yoga, meditation, prayer, spells, incantations, affirmations, confidence building, ego boosting, life coaching etc etc... They're basically all doing the same thing: allowing you to focus, take it head on, and have the sheer will to beat, whatever it is that's threatening to beat us! Derren always does these little "selector" mind games at the start, so that those who say they felt something, are the ones who are the most suggestible. The ones who give into the experience just as you described! He could randomly pick out people from the audience who are rigidly sceptical and determined to not be brainwashed, but then his stage will be filled with fail after fail in every experiment! It's far better for him, and far more successful for the show, if he sets a little task in the beginning, and those who raise their hand have surrendered themselves to him... People determined to go under, to trust him, and to give themselves over to the experience. That's his way of digging out those in the audience who are more than willing to experience the power of their own minds. In a way, Derren himself didn't heal you...he just tapped into your own resource, and helped you to find your own inbuilt placebo effect... YOU healed you! And that's an incredible strength of mind power that you have, not a weakness or gullibility as some would reject it as! It's time for people to embrace all the placebos in life and feel proud that their imagination has the strength to carry them through their struggles! Too many people choose to block out suffering, drink, drugs, risky behaviours etc, simply because they don't know how much power they possess inside, to cope otherwise! They are so fearful of failure, so certain that's their fate, that they choose to fail deliberately, so that they at least have some control of their own misery. Like, it's a foregone conclusion that they won't succeed in overcoming something, so by agreeing to fail, they can console themselves that they at least made the decision on their own. How powerful their minds are to convince themselves of failing before even trying! If they could only willingly tap into that mind power and turn it on it's head, how much different the outcome would be! I bet it was a surreal experience, but remember, it's not just down to Derren, the will to rise above pain came from you! Otherwise you'd have never been chosen in the first place! 😘😘😘
Thanks for sharing, I find super interesting your experience exactly because I don't believe in anything and this stops me from having any kind of similar experience yet I find them fascinating. I wished more people would share with the same clarity
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 yes, I completely agree with you and you are most certainly not undermining my experience :) I'm a very critical thinker but I am fascinated to see how far the mind can take us like you seem to do too. At Derren's show I allowed myself to believe that he would affect me, influence me and help me with his words, eventhough I knew full well that I was the one who was effecting my own body. But after this experience I have a better understanding on how people feel in these kind of ceremonies. It's really an adrenaline rush, and it's no wonder that people connect it to a higher power when they don't understand it. It would be interesting to see if people can call out this "power" within themselves, like you said, to achieve things. Very interesting topic indeed.
@@gudemik5335 Np! I'm an atheist myself 😊 and have been most of my life so I didn't understand why people sought these kind of Christian ceremonies. I was curious and this was a great opportunity for me to just fully commit and let go and try for myself and feel how it was to have this kind of faith. I'm still an atheist, but I understand now why people seek this adrenaline rush. I hope you have an opportunity to try as well someday.
Thank you for this. A true and worthy philosophical discussion between two intelligent and aware people (and how rare it is on the social media forum). Both of you very eloquently express many of the ideas, concepts and feelings people of a contemplative inclination (which ought to be everyone) experience and struggle with but don't have access to a means of expression for. A very rewarding watch which reminds one that the unexamined life is indeed not worth living - or at the very least, a lot more bewildering and frightening than it ought to be.
That's exactly what is happening. Derren appeals to the ' male brain' or left brain which is useless since we need balance of female and male energies within us. The problem with Derren's ' Stoicism' is that it is too left brained or ' male energy' orientated and falls under Yin. Russell's meditation is a right brain function ' Female energy' which connects with the unseen, empathy, creativity compassion. The Universe basically is male and female energy. There must without question be a balance within us of these energies to find peace. Derren is also a fan of NLP and CBT therapy which again arise from SToicism ( male energy) he is also very much a mathematical thinker , again left brained, CBT and NLP are useless to highly emotional or empathetic people that ' feel' everything in this world. This is why he says he is only a little bit ' liberal left' it's almost a 'centrist' position ( middle of the road etc) Never ever deny the female energy, creative energy within you ( or male energy if you are female) doesn't matter how foolish you think you look, never ever repress who you really are. Stocism might help if you are not particulary an emotional person but it is futile in the grand scheme of things. So when he says " Why everything is more or less ok" in his book it is false he also goes on about having a ' good death' my feeling is that Stoicism helps him stay grounded because he is ultimately afraid of losing control. He does not believe in energies beyond the physical world and is very much science based and non spiritual and has never experienced astral travel to other worlds or dimensions. Believe me they exist, and consciousness is not wedded to the body, we are not our bodies. When Derren says he has never needed to meditate because he has never suffered Anxiety is not really an answer. Meditation is for anyone that wishes to truly understand the higher self and the knowledge that comes from the Universal mind where everything is deeply connected.
@@Mysterywhiteboy78 i partially disagree, as we go deeper into NLP specially at Derren's level it becomes more intuitive and emotional than what you think, NLP is done right when it is intuitive. We all have different balance of male & female, i don't think it's as black and white.
A very tolerant, tactfull and wise guest who has a great sense of humour, based in stoicism, what a great gift to you russell and us. He's there already. A man of grace, his humility proves his power.
@@williamusrex6417 I love Russel, but even he would tell you that Terence McKenna is right up there too. do check him out, you're in for a treat if you do.
I agree that Russell is a very lovely man and I can totally see him being this way with Derren's mom. That was a beautiful piece of insight to get about him straightaway in this interview.
LOVE THIS SESSION SO MUCH!! Very well conducted Russell, you two bounce off each other so well! I particularly loved Derren's story about the Parrot sanctuary at the end ☺️ Would love to see Derren on here again at some point in the near future 🙌🏻
It was a good book, Happy. I read it twice and I'm so dim that I still need to read it again to try to completely get my head around it, lol. Derren truly is a clever chap. I was comforted by the fact that I couldn't relate to the idea of people wanting bigger cars, houses, more material stuff, etc, etc, I think that could be a decent place to start, not caring about what people think about the car you drive and so on. So, soooo much to learn though. I could probably re-read the book over and over until the day I die and still not fully remember and act upon the content! One thing's for sure, you learn something new every day. Like someone says here in the comments about a fool thinking he's a genius and Derren being the polar opposite of that. What a clever, humble chap. Then you've got Russell - can be hilarious and also very deep. Sometimes Russell speaks so many long words so quickly that I have to "rewind" and put the videos on a slower speed and even then, still listen to it a few times. Oh, how I wish I had a clever brain like these two guys. I guess I try, accept my limitations but do my best, all anyone can do eh. Crikey, I ramble a load of rubbish, and I know that nobody cares lol! If you ever have insomnia, be sure to come back here and read my comment - I can definitely help you fall asleep. Although Derren could probably do that a lot quicker than this comment with his skills.
NO he is not! That is his whole shtick to pretend to be a man of the humble people but actually he is a full on elitist and despises the lowly people. He pretends to be against big money corporations, banks, ect but everything he supports is beneficial for the global elite and terrible for the lowly common people who are too dumb and backward to understand his highly compassionate and intellectual takes. BRAND HATES THE PEOPLE AND LOVES THE ELITE!
Your broadcasts are the most interesting pieces of thought I heard for a long time. To be precise, since I had philosophy classes about 20 years ago. There is so much stuff you are talking about and there is so much content. I thank you very much and wish to see you live any time soon. Kind regards
it is not the truth at all, derren tried church, when you try Jesus you don't go back!, a bit of advice to you all, if you are constantly questioning things and searching, try the Answer!, his name is Jesus Christ and he is the way, the TRUTH and the life as he says in the Gospel of John, and trust me I have tried EVERYTHING, from all drugs and drink to catholic to atheist to jedhi!!! you don't even have to believe me though, go straight to the source and humble yourself with a honest heart and ask the Lord Jesus to reveal hiself to you and I PROMISE you he will..........................WATCH OUT though because what you ask for he will give you in bucket loads. God bless.X
Jesus will tell you to differently I would think. We are nothig without Our Father. The jesus tune being pushed is an agenda. Jesus saved us already. But we have to connect to our father and open our ears to listen. Its our choice still and you cant be saved unless you choose to be saved.
Oh yessss The Christ Jesus is 100% real, trust me. He is the Way the Truth and the Life. I won't bore everyone with my testimony but He is the ultimate problem solver. Open your heart and have Faith in Christ the Redeemer and the Prince of Peace. Nothing beats having Jesus in one's Life.. No drink or drug trumps having the Love of Christ in one's Life❤️❤️😊😍
Adjectives of more than two syllables always form their comparative with more. ... The adjective “common” does not come under this category. Common is a two syllable word but ends with “-er ” So in my opinion Clever , cleverer ,cleverest is correct.
I made ya google it. :) Cleverer as well as More clever Gentler as well as More gentle Quieter as well as More quiet Farther as well as Further Friendlier as well as More friendly
I found myself watching his reflection in the window more than the focus of the camera. Comparative I’d say to how we view self and other. An ideal in one hand, solid, metaphysical and the true form in the other.
I agree; Derren does seem enlightened in a very unassuming way. A mirror to how to live a good life as you feel able and capable, and accept yourself, your strengths, your limitations, the time for downtime. You’re a different animal in same jungle Russell. Love your work! Love both these men. xx
Being concerned with politics shouldn't be looked down on. It's not lesser than pondering global consciousness when people are suffering & dying due to policy.
I think the point is that it's draining in that it is quite a negative endeavour in our society, politics is to solve problems instead as what it should be which is to do good: for DB he said he's not confrontational enough, that at heart he's too accommodating, for RB he said he just needs to retool himself and I imagine views his current work as coming at it from the side...or indeed from within: IMO neither looked down on it.
I think the point is that it's draining in that it is quite a negative endeavour in our society, politics is to solve problems instead as what it should be which is to do good: for DB he said he's not confrontational enough, that at heart he's too accommodating, for RB he said he just needs to retool himself and I imagine views his current work as coming at it from the side...or indeed from within: IMO neither looked down on it.
OMG you are a great teacher❤️ I have been praying for wisdom and teachers . These are all the things I have tried to speak to others with -- to no avail... Russell so damn proud of you my friend...I used to not like your life ...you were boring to me...-- a lower frequency.. but Bravo! Thank you for sharing this beautiful information with all of your guests. Being a Christian and relationship with God and Jesus, understanding who I am. Jesus tells us who we are. .I love the scripture that Jesus spoke before His ascension " You will do all the same things I have done but even greater things..." Quantum Physics supports the scientific aspect of who we are scientifically...Love this episode...He gave me the words for understanding where I am in my journey. It resonated MY TRUTH ....THANK YOU GUYS, LOVE YOU, MICHELLE
I loved the grape & water break. That instantly sort of regulated my busy mind that i didn’t realize was so busy. The sound of you guys chewing a few juicy grapes was lovely, honestly & I went inside and had a few myself. Sometimes we need to just pause to taste the grapes right in front of us instead of thinking endlessly about how we are going to acquire more grapes in the future.
I heard this for the second time tonight and it’s so sweet how Russell says he’s more comfortable with talking about who we are. “We’re not apes.” Deep and adorable. 💜
The combination of these two great minds - Derren Brown and Russell Brand - in a dialogue together was mesmerizing, meaningful, and momentous! I have studied many of the great thinkers they mentioned (Foucault, C.S. Lewis, Aquinas, Richard Bandler, etc) and I just loved this! Whoo-whoo! Such a treat! This was incredibly insightful. Also, when 1:10:20 Brand was talking about emotions like anger that you can witness, he was referring to Praxis where a temporary emotion (glee, rage, doubt) gets morphed into a noun, a set thing, when in reality it is just a temporary state. Brand is so Zen. I swear they were using anchors the whole interview with the grapes! LOL! Superb!
Absolute Authenticity is connection to the light in us all that weaves its silky, loving, gentle, vulnerable, infinitely Interconnected threads in and out and all around everything, everyone, every star and sound wave throughout and throughin the Universe.
I have lived in Ibiza for 10 years. All the brand and bling aside - many, many people gravitate here because you are allowed to offer a truly honest version of yourself from the get-go. And those who have learned to do that, seem to gravitate towards each other. I, like so many others, have been flushed down the shitter by covid. My plan is to lean into the wind and see where it takes me. Surely, I can't go wrong? ;) Peace and love to one and all xx
Yeah right they go there on holiday get hooked on the cheap coke then end up staying there begging you to come into a bar so they can get commission on you 😂
@@longshotkdb I agree with Mel O'Brien here. What you attempted to construct as a coherent sentence is no use of the English language that I'm familiar with.
@@melvynobrien6193 im quite confident its perfectly coherent, even though Is é Béarla mo dhara teanga. why are you using quotation marks and ad hominem attacks? you seem very emotional melony ...
exit 1Ø1 As someone who understands the pettiness of the ad-hominem ‘logical fallacy’ and it’s usage - surely you can see how your initial Comment rubbed a few people the wrong way?
we all have our own realities 🦋 yet we are all connected in the universal consciousness of evolution even after we cross over 🌻 you will have to have your own personal experience with an open mind to realize or understand this 🥀 ☮
"...it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven...it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." -The Eye of the Needle
Could you imagine just working for someone this excellent and the influence and informal education one would gain by mere exposure to his thoughts? It beats Oxford hands down. His wife is also as lovely in character. What a privilege to hear these videos.
When u get a guest like Derren Brown, one gets him to talk more and specially questions about his way of subtle suggestion to create a hidden message within a normal conversation, that changes free will. That is his highest skill. His memory comes next.
These are the intellectual conversations I've always dreamed of having with the friends I always wished I had
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well said
o snap
Yes same here. Such a rich conversation and so proper in every way. I couldn’t possibly manage this. These topics need a degree in literature with a major in philosophy, and maybe a masters in politics and cinema lol
George Cawood checked out the app thanks. I’ve applied for access - seems fair enough. I obviously showcased my extensive grammatical flair. 🥳🤩😂
There are times where you can’t pull people out of a dark hole, all you can do is go and sit there with them for a while and be totally present and hold the space from a place of love
A true humanistic approach
What if it becomes clear that this person has been in this hole for a very long time and there is little to no chance of them ever allowing themselves to leave this state?
@@locked3724 You still can't abandon them. You still have to give it a try. You wouldn't want others to abandon you in your dark times so you can't walk away from someone else. If nothing else, you've given them companionship for a while.
Winnie the Pooh and Eeyore ..
@@locked3724 the point of being present is experiencing moments while it's happening. Projecting to a future outcome is NOT being "present"....
I can't believe what i'm seeing. Russell Brand and Derren Brown in one space having a conversation. I love love love both of them.
@@gewizz2 Good one
Me too. The icing on the cake bwas when Derren said, " Can i tell you a brief parrot story?"
@Stephanie Larassati ● SAME ● 💟💟💟💟💟🇨🇦😍🥰
@@sadieinnes-smith8263 YAAAASSSSS!!!! 😍🇨🇦💟
How wonderful for you
That story about Derren Brown's ex partner's terminally ill mother made me feel incredibly moved, as it proves a human genuineness, warmth and authenticity about Russell Brand.
I think it demonstrates the same for Derren Brown. It shows how he values such positive character traits.
♥I remember that story from Darren but didn't think it was just from this recording. But I agree with you and add that since it was a private conversation (of half-forgotten moment) it places Russell further into realms authentic - ever shrinking at least by and/or even according to media and it's own standards.
@@djosearth3618 yeah. It gave him credence at the beginning of the conversation..
Darren is adept at controlling the script. But, I believe in Russel and believe the circumstances happened.
Russell, I am so impressed with your talent, breadth, depthe, and scope of your mastery of personal and interpersonal relations...Ive been a Dr since 1998 and I am so humbled by your understanding human nature. You have a brand new fan. Many thanks.
Charles is that a pun? 😉
"Feelings are not you, they are something you have". Yes! Thank you, this is just the reminder we all needed.
Jade Leah very true All humans need to hear that !!!!
I think they are something that has you
I recommend you Eckhart Tolle, then
@@fancywrong6405 That's when you don't work with yourself, or do inner work
Thoughts are not you either. You think, therefore...
Very interesting that Derren keeps complimenting Russell on being present with strangers. I met Derren after his show on his first UK tour, some 15 years ago now. He took time to meet and talk to a queue of people. He was funny, kind and engaging with everyone, he was open and warmer than his on-stage persona. Lovely man.
Quite humble i feel...It is as though he has "imposter syndrome"* despite all he has achieved. *en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome
@@omarei he's a macaroni nigga. Impasta
Me too! The first time I met him was after watching his second stage show ‘Something Wicked This Way Comes’ (in Gravesend, Kent). There was only me and a few others waiting for him as he wasn’t famous then. But the fifth time I saw him was a completely different story! It took ages to wade through the fans at stage door to get him to sign my two books of his. 😬🤓
@@YoungManDub HAHAHAHAHAHA SO FUNNY
@@markcotton3481 thank Andre 3000 for that
One of those conversations that make you feel truly connected with each other. No bullshit, no pretence - just honesty and humour.
The depth of these type of conversations took me years of both personal and traditional academic education to comprehend. Even look at Russell's notes and talking points. This is really well done and amazing. Thank you.
"I have to let go of the idea of happiness and embrace the idea of purpose."
Purpose definitely brings happiness.
Im not wordsmith. But Owen you explained it accurately as well. I suppose my lacking vocabulary may reach similar folk as me who are hands on so any clarifications make the process much more streamlined.
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Why
Darren Goldsmith I cant see what you are replying to but why not?
Thier is no purpose in life; just life and live it with total tranquility & happiness. Please discover: 'Sadhguru'- Mystic .
That was touching, how Russell shared a moment with his partners mother. Sometimes people just need to be recognized and given an ear to hear. He set her at ease by showing concern an putting her at ease. Empathy goes a long ways. Who would have thought? He’s precious! ❤️
Aye but did you notice Mr Precious couldn’t remember it taking place, shows you how far his obsession with himself stretches. Sorry I shouldn’t be on here, he does my head in , sorry again!
@@johngibb3802 Don't worry, you're not alone. Here for Derren too.
@@johngibb3802 It seemed like that story was some Derren Brown influence trick. That whole story seemed out of place and felt like he was trying to take control of the conversation.
@@johngibb3802 What has having a bad memory got to do self obsession.?
@@HitTheBricks89 feels more like that person is obssesed with russel qnd is just projecting
This one of the best conversations/interviews I have seen for a long time. Blessings to both of them.
one of the best podcasts period.He takes words away from my thinker straight into my heart ,every interview.Love this man/these men.
You need to get out more
Just a wonderful conversation..I could listen to them all day. Russell is a really underrated interviewer as he never starts totally rambling about his own opinions, he let's the guest talk and it feels like a lovely natural conversation...absolutely outstanding stuff
Like looking in the mirror for Russell. Bit cheeky as well.....
Russell is anything but underrated!!
Can relate to what Derren said he wanted 'proper' conversation. It's about really connecting and being open. Glad I found this. Just read Derren's book Confession of A Conjuror and enjoyed how he thinks. Great and stimulating conversation. Thanks Russell and Derren.
This is the most interesting conversation I have watched two people have in my life and I spend the majority of my free time, when I ever have any, watching people on the net ( not TV ) conversing about different enlightening subjects. Well done, peace.
I didn't know I desperately wanted to see a convo between russel and derren until I saw the title of this video! A great meeting of minds
They say we have the ability to heal ourselves I believe that when I had 3 strokes they said you'll always be paralyzed I didn't accept that..when the paralysis started to dissipate I asked the physical therapist will I ever be able to run again she said you need to put that out of your head I didn't accept that I was able to eventually run a little 2 years later however painful so your own mind can have an affect on your health.
Maybe your body would of healed regardless of your mind? The doctors are not always right, most of the time they are just guessing on the extent of illness or disease and have no clue how much the body is going to internally heal itself or not. If your body was destined physically to never walk again then no amount of will power is going to make that happen. I understand though that people like to take ownership of their achievements, even if they are sometimes pure luck, thats our narcissistic side expressing itself.
@@docholiday8315 yeah maybe..doctors are just sometimes cold and greedy and they want you to stay sick so they can make a lot of money
@@kylenegould5420 Im not sure they have a capitalist agenda, probably they just dont want to give you false hope and tell you you're going to skipping down the road in a few weeks, it would be more empathetic to play down the recovery and let the persons natural hope guide them to a level of recovery that they are comfortable with, that way they wont feel like a failure if they dont hit the doctors optimistic targets of recovery. Regardless, well done on your recovery, and you have every right to be proud of yourself for the hard work you've done to achieve it.
@@docholiday8315 thank you..i live in Chicago they have one of the highest rates of healthcare fraud the doctors and health workers here are unfortunately that greedy and uncaring and they will lie just unbelievably to get paid they ruined my medical records forever by lying about my condition to get paid more to this day they have epilepsy on my record they refuse to remove it all though it's a lie...chicago is on a corrupt police state level most people could never comprehend.
@@kylenegould5420 Sorry to hear that it sounds horrendous. I'm from the U.K where we have a government funded national health service, there is not much corrupt money to be made in healthcare here so it's not too bad. If healthcare becomes privatised in this country though then im sure we would start to see problems of that nature too. Best wishes from across the pond.
I have watched your videos for about 3 months now, Older like this one and new. What you have shown me was how much I need to work on myself on NOT putting people in a box of just one thing. We are all so complex and when we open our minds we have so much common ground to build on. Thank you.
Don't break the mirror....
I really enjoyed this podcast. Derren opened up alot more on this podcast than when he appeared on Joe Rogan. The friendship these two have really came through and opened up the conversation. Brilliant. Thoroughly enjoyable.
I absolutely love your kind warm and openness to all thoughts and ideas and concepts as you learn and grow from new ideas or those ideas that you may even disagree! You have truly loving energy about you. It's really lovely!
Derren is such a sweet man I am totally impressed w// his honesty. A well balanced man.
Love Russell’s point/question at 34:00 - Would love to see Derren do something solely based on the manipulation of social media, taking on the subject matter of The Social Dilemma documentary.
Two years later... still my favorite podcast!
Keep up the great work, Russell🤙
Half way through and a minor thing I noticed, but very telling of both of them.
There were no, or very few "ums" and "ahs" in this conversation.
Well spoken and intelligent guys. I love these real conversations so much more than mainstream scripted interviews 👍
I absolutely LOVED Derren growing up, always recognized his intelligence in his performances but never knew he was such a sensitive and self inquiring soul. What a beautiful man
He probably didn't used to be such a sensitive caring soul. But he let go a adolescent ego
I can't relate to Instagram or snap. I feel like those things were put in place to keep our minds completely distracted. What I've realized in the past few years is that life is more than looking glamorous and perfect.
Showing love and empathy goes a lot farther.
Peace and love come with not being obsessed with others acceptance. Give yourself 5 stars regardless of others approval. Happy Easter! Positive vibes everyone.
Yes I agree.When we stop seeking approval we realise it not only releases us,but it also gives freedom to others as well.We are less likely to judge when we no longer fear the judgement of others.
Woke Af well said 👍🏼
I'm so glad to see your comment as i feel the same way about social media too everyone i meet is shocked that i don't have instagram twitter or snap.
Life is a lot more peaceful and enjoyable without those sites they are just a horrible distraction from real life experiences and growth,stay beautiful and positive vibes right back at you :)
Right, you exist regardless of that pat on the head. By yourself or someone else, doesn't matter. Being connected and open to all there is to offer is the best state to be in.
@@Youbarkimeow Virtual reality will never replace natural experience...just a trick to generate money and gain control. People think I'm odd because I stopped watching the Tv 8 years ago...But I see that most of them lack any true gumption.Thanks for responding Tara...Keep up the resistance my friend. ((-:
Feel more centred just from listening to these two talk.
then you need to go back to the drawing board
Two fantastic human minds together here. Loved watching their fluid conversation.
I love Russell since his inception of being famous and the journey he has took to how he is now. Bloody Brillitant stuff.
Two incredibly intelligent men who both bamboozled their way into the consciousness great chat
I wouldn't say Russell is INCREDIBLY intelligent..... He just has a larger than usual vocabulary and it's quite cultured and traveled from being famous and having opportunities none of the rest of us have
I'm not saying he's dumb or anything..... Just... Let's not go so far as to say he's "INCREDIBLY intelligent" 😂😂😂😂😂...... He's not.
@@fletchy88 free thinking is intelligent in its own way so he is intelligent as I believe ignorance is only what lacks intelligence
@@fletchy88 he understands quite a lot and can communicate it so that's fairly intelligent, Derren Brown is a genius but still has flaws that have humbled him.
Either way, great watch.
@@mrtuber00 agreed
Brilliant we can hear proper debate and conversations rather than 30 sec TV soundbites and interruptions by the interviewer.
"You can decide that all of those things are fine" This podcast just saved me, thanks Derren.
This was the best conversation I have heard in such a long time. I am glad that I could sit in on it.
Watched from start to finish. Two of my favorite people having an interesting conversation ..The most time I've ever spent watching a video on TH-cam : )
Hi. I am honoured to watch video with Russell Brand and Derren Brown, have a lot of respect for both of you. I got so much out of this talk, explaining awareness of awareness. The other day I was considering my original (core) trauma was when I became aware I am experiencing consciousness. I was going to suggest for you with language and talking with your 2 year old, instead of "I am angry", replace with "I am doing anger" or "I am doing tired" 'i am doing excitement". So the usefulness of the word doing helps to identify it as a passing state of experience, rather than creating it as part of your identity. This helps me a lot, not to become overwhelmed emotionally. Thank you both for this amazing video and for everything else your passions have drawn you to create and share with the universal consciousness (with people). I wish for you both nothing but the best in all things. Metta. Michelle
Words dont mean shit. There's no magic in words.
Positive mind, state of mind effects your life. Be positive, be nice to others your life will be better. Every day I feel blessed just to be here. I feel lucky everyday, have a wife and 2 kids that are amazing.Life is a gift all other stuff is a distraction
Life is a *school* , all other stuff is a distraction.
@U bik First off Darren's belief is Darren's belief he is human therefore his beliefs will alway be evolving (as illustrated by his views on atheism in this interview). What is in his book is his truth but not fact and it is something to take in and digest however way you wish. Now having said that, wtf are you on about? What you said basically just expands on what I said lol
"Never compare the outside of me to the inside of you." It's interesting isn't it? Thank you for sharing
Learning how to believe in your own thought is so powerful, right?
Why do I never remember funny jokes and insightful quotes? So thanks for the moment
Or the other way round .
What a quote. Seriously. I especially love how _affirmative_ it is. It's commanding respect.....and then explaining _why_ in such obvious terms.
Love it!
Classic formula for shadow projection
Utterly brilliant. More Derren on your podcasts please Russ! Love how you look at topics with somewhat opposing viewpoints with such insight, compassion and understanding ❤
i wish i had known people around me who would talk this deep and not be distracted with playing life.
Many of the people around you may need to be shocked out of playing life, or gently coaxed out of it. I think all of us are capable of this deep thought, just not used to or practiced in it.
The reason you can’t find any is that people are afraid to do this because it makes them unpopular. That’s more important to them than philosophizing about life. I think one poet said most people go to their deaths with an unexamined life. They never asked what it was all about. It reminds me of Frank Burns in M*A*S*H “he had an original thought once but it died of loneliness.”
Me too..... I DESPISE people that "play life" ... like literally play fucking caricatures of themselves and have COMPLETELY different versions for different people!!!!!! HATE HATE HATE IT!!! Have some fucking BALLS and be who you ARE the EXACT same around EVERYONE at ALL times!!!!! And people like me who can actually do that get viewed as weirdos or awkward or micro aggression bla bla fucking bla...... NO..... no no no...... im just being MYSELF..... the real actual one.... not some fucking fake version to everyone you meet.
Utterly PATHETIC.
It's weak..... and pathetic.
Unfortunately most people get caught up in playing life. I myself have but have snapped out of it and just going with the flow enjoying life till I get to work lol 😆
@@garyfrancis6193 fantastic line. Poor Frank...
2 brilliant minds discussing such interesting topics, I've been going through some tough times recently and just knowing that there are people put there who want to discuss these topics really helps, also reading the comments makes me feel less isolated, I'd love to talk, party or rave with so many of you. The Internet can be a force for good in the hands of people who are skeptical and open minded. Thanks Russel and Derren.
Could you please get Derren Brown and Jordan Peterson in a room together, their expertise in psychology and sociology are so on the polar ends of the spectrum I would love to hear them find some common ground. Anyone who agrees- like this comment to get Russell’s attention! Lol
They both seem to carry an air of disguised anger. Getting to the bottom of that would be truly fascinating.
That would be really good!
Was he the Doctor on Deep Space 9?
@Citizen 1491 not anymore, and it wasnt the diet, it was the medication he was prescribed thats almost impossible to get off.
Two of my fav men in UK having a really fun, deep, and inspiring conversation. A great pleasure to listen to, thank you so much!
Love these interviews. I've been so depressed for two days and Russel always brings me up out of the blues.
Yeah it's really lovely to hear conversations from people who genuinely care. I've been pretty crap during lockdown too (live alone etc)
I've found a lot of help from Russell, and actually Sam Harris' app has been good too
I hope you're feeling better
Meditate rewire your brain you got this god bless
Good. I hope the blues don't reappear. All the best.
Thank you both. I love this. We are made to function perfectly. I find that Each emotion is to indicate whether I am heading towards or away from my life’s path. My mind finds me choices. Any discomfort/pain/disease is a calling for me to steer back into my path. Love and hugs 🤗
Love it! Russell sharing his enlightenment and Derren seeming to be very similar in outlook. And such a nice, self aware, humble man in spite of his extraordinary achievements. And such a warm rapport between these two gents.
An amazing conversation to share with us Russell. Derren was the best! Good interplay between you gents. Thank you for the ever illuminating content
Just finished Derren's book, Happy, it's stoicism for dummies. Read it.
i just bought it
@@jacksawild it's a good read, I've mostly forgotten it now though.
@@samdunn717 apply em in ur life
Not frm amzn please..
Speaking to the common man with truth and love is the only way this message will get through.We all understand truth and love but the message out there from media is to hate others.To do the right thing has always been the hardest thing to do.
We all have traits of narcissism, I've always thought Russell your a warm lovely fella the first few mins just proves I was right. Also a recovering addict like many, many people i did 10months clean, had a bit of a session if you will two or three weeks ago which I'm absolutely gutted about and I'm certainly not telling people about, only ones I don't know. The guilt the next day was, crippling it really was I'm just glad I didn't continue to use in the following few weeks. I'm slowly learning you never leave the woods totally. I wish any addicts out their all the luck in the world, you can do it if I can anyone can. Misshap aside. For me I have to burn energy like there's no tomorrow. I'm as mad as a box of frogs, at the best of times. God bless everyone who reads this. I'm struggling with religion a bit, I've found my higher power its god for me and not Necessarily how most perceive god. Even without practicing religion proper just having a belief is extremely powerful. I need to get a bible I can actually read, I've got the tiny one that was bought for me as a baby. I digress.
You've got this mate. I also stumble from time to time but I'm beginning to realize what it means and what it takes to be a man. Purpose, integrity, discipline, courage. I found the SMART recovery system to be what suits me but I don't think that's enough on it's own, we have to enjoy the journey of discovery and mastery of both body and spirit. Wish you well on your quest.
@@johnfoster1580 very kind. Same to you👊🏼
I could literally see Russel being shy and paranoid that Derren was going to read his mind - So Derren hypnotised him in the first time he spoke to feel SUPER CONFIDENT and Russel lit up - and then the charming compliment. What a wonderful gift to be able to do that. Not manipulate them - but help them feel confident. Although Russel became really over bearing once he felt confident which was a shame. Although I do love Russel!! Vulnerability is lovely - people dont like feeling vulnerable and its sad. I dont like feeling it, was a huge reason why I used to drink, but I was more pleasant vulnerable than I was when I was a Piss head.
I just stumbled on this podcast today as something to listen to while working and I immensely enjoyed the conversation. I'd seen Derren's Netflix show, which is fantastic, but had no idea that he was so exploratory in his worldview/mindset. I really related to much of what was discussed. Thank you!
Derren Brown is so incredibly sensitive in such a beautiful and progressive way. Love the man.
Loved the plot twist at the end with the parrot, causing havoc between the elderly couple!🤣👏
Fantastic interview guys, loved every minute. 🔮
How does this have hundreds of dislikes? It's a weird type of human , that enters a conversation as a bystander , then sticks around to say they didn't like the content- nobody cares .... Most humans find Russel refreshing , and frankly Derren is a rockstar.. to come here just to dislike this shows the true negativity based support system some humans operate on..
I actually don't think I've dislikes a video ever- nobody forced me to be here so I move on if I'm not entertained.
Doing an amazing job Russ keep it up.
I have never tried to show people any other version of myself and its only recently I've realized how uncomfortable that makes people who cant be themselves
Being real all the time scares people. It leaves a feeling that you expect them to be the same with you, which we do right? Thing is they don't want to get away from the routine they're in that provides them their comfort.
@@Adam-qs5ir Since I stopped being what others want me to be most of my lifelong 'friends' turned their back on me. Since I started being a real human being with independent thoughts. Even in social circles online if you don't conform to the theme / group narrative you are seen as a threat and often groups of people team up on me and especially women try to ridicule me for not conforming to what they want me to be. If my narrative doesn't support their illusion bubbles. It's quite sad, but most actually live in a fake world created for society. People buying social status based on their income / badge on their cars, etc. In most service positions people are respected for their ability to buy and that goes to their heads thinking they are more than they are until the money runs out. I use to entertain my friends and realized they put me in that box when I started having real problems due to a variety of issues, etc. Most constantly distract themselves with some substance or food, tv, shopping addictions and project the norms of the industries onto each other such as the beauty / fashion industry. Looking at another human beings shoes and then deciding if they deserve the respect of the women, etc.
@@francoisnel5253 completely agree mate..... People are pussy holes.... Scared to be themselves.... It's pathetic.
You know why.... Because people aren't as happy and fucking smiles and jokes most of the time... Most of us most of the thing just want to fucking chill and shit the fuck up.... But that's not "outgoing" or sociable and is ACTUALLY.. unbelievably deemed a 'bad' thing..... It's fucking mental.... Introverts... Less friends.. Less respect.... Less everything.... It's pathetic... And ironically... The introverts are the ones who aren't actually scared to be themselves...... I personally believe most extroverts are just pretending for social status.... And it makes me sick. Pathetic.
Hmm. This comment made me think. I've realised that because of a lifetime of social constraints... I've actually lost touch with who I am, or was.
It is too late to recapture the funny spontaneous lad I was...if I started behaving like that now, people would assume dementia. So I've repressed myself convincingly. Sad.
@@allosaurusfragilis7782 Likewise, but for me, it's to protect myself. Everyone seems to be out for themselves, and some will use manipulation as a tool and use people like vampires to suck them dry. Like a bottomless pit, draining them and moving on.
Excellent talk, I've recently been pondering that many of the issues in my own life are the result of an overactive avoidance of discomfort. It seems like the same impulse that's designed to keep us safe i.e. fire burns, so stay away from it, being injured hurts, so stay safe e.t.c. can also become too restrictive when applied to other forms of discomfort such as social discomfort, fear of the unknown for example.
I was one of the people that got "healed" on stage. It was so bizarre. I had been so stressed lately and my shoulders and muscles were super stiff and sore. So I decided, before Derren started, to believe 150% what he was doing was real. I mean, why not?
He started and I got this adrenaline rush and I felt my shoulders relax and the blood rushed to my brain and everything became very vivid. He asked those who had felt change to come up on stage. I am super insecure and my heart was beating out of my chest but still I went to the stage and he asked me what had changed. I can't remember what I said because the adrenaline being on stage, having Derren Brown infront of me and everyone watching was rushing through my body and I just did what he told me.
I think because I went into this willingly and decided to believe it and throw all doubts away I was able to feel the full effect of this "healing" process.
The day after my shoulders were sore because of the adrenaline rush but my muscles were very relaxed. So in a sense, it worked for me XD and it's both scary and interesting to see how much BELIEVE in something can effect you mentally and physically.
I think that’s more evidence showing the power of our mind over our physical bodies, as is shown in placebo tests. It’s what you believe.
It's the placebo effect... And before you think I'm knocking your experience, or undermining it, I'm not! I think the placebo effect is a marvelous ability our minds / bodies possess, and something that instead of ridiculing, people should learn to respect it and harness it! The word placebo has come to mean fake, not real, fooling yourself.... So people tend to not want to associate with it, in fact want to somehow prove to everybody that they are too "clever" to be so easily fooled. Whereas I feel like the cleverest people are those who tap into any and every resource available to them to get through a situation... And a lot of times in life, the ONLY resource available is to man-up, grow some balls, face the facts, mind over matter or whatever phrase you choose to call it. The power of our own sheer will and determination to get through something, pain, loss, grief, despair, fear, sadness etc, with no tools other than our ability to take it on, face to face, and rise up above it! In so many situations, that's all we have, and it's incredible! We have the ability to "believe" things are not as bad as they are, not too painful that we can't cope with it, not too overwhelming that we'll crumble and fail in front of everyone. Whether it's mantras, yoga, meditation, prayer, spells, incantations, affirmations, confidence building, ego boosting, life coaching etc etc... They're basically all doing the same thing: allowing you to focus, take it head on, and have the sheer will to beat, whatever it is that's threatening to beat us! Derren always does these little "selector" mind games at the start, so that those who say they felt something, are the ones who are the most suggestible. The ones who give into the experience just as you described! He could randomly pick out people from the audience who are rigidly sceptical and determined to not be brainwashed, but then his stage will be filled with fail after fail in every experiment! It's far better for him, and far more successful for the show, if he sets a little task in the beginning, and those who raise their hand have surrendered themselves to him... People determined to go under, to trust him, and to give themselves over to the experience. That's his way of digging out those in the audience who are more than willing to experience the power of their own minds. In a way, Derren himself didn't heal you...he just tapped into your own resource, and helped you to find your own inbuilt placebo effect... YOU healed you! And that's an incredible strength of mind power that you have, not a weakness or gullibility as some would reject it as! It's time for people to embrace all the placebos in life and feel proud that their imagination has the strength to carry them through their struggles! Too many people choose to block out suffering, drink, drugs, risky behaviours etc, simply because they don't know how much power they possess inside, to cope otherwise! They are so fearful of failure, so certain that's their fate, that they choose to fail deliberately, so that they at least have some control of their own misery. Like, it's a foregone conclusion that they won't succeed in overcoming something, so by agreeing to fail, they can console themselves that they at least made the decision on their own. How powerful their minds are to convince themselves of failing before even trying! If they could only willingly tap into that mind power and turn it on it's head, how much different the outcome would be! I bet it was a surreal experience, but remember, it's not just down to Derren, the will to rise above pain came from you! Otherwise you'd have never been chosen in the first place! 😘😘😘
Thanks for sharing, I find super interesting your experience exactly because I don't believe in anything and this stops me from having any kind of similar experience yet I find them fascinating. I wished more people would share with the same clarity
@@tamielizabethallaway2413 yes, I completely agree with you and you are most certainly not undermining my experience :) I'm a very critical thinker but I am fascinated to see how far the mind can take us like you seem to do too.
At Derren's show I allowed myself to believe that he would affect me, influence me and help me with his words, eventhough I knew full well that I was the one who was effecting my own body.
But after this experience I have a better understanding on how people feel in these kind of ceremonies. It's really an adrenaline rush, and it's no wonder that people connect it to a higher power when they don't understand it.
It would be interesting to see if people can call out this "power" within themselves, like you said, to achieve things. Very interesting topic indeed.
@@gudemik5335 Np! I'm an atheist myself 😊 and have been most of my life so I didn't understand why people sought these kind of Christian ceremonies. I was curious and this was a great opportunity for me to just fully commit and let go and try for myself and feel how it was to have this kind of faith.
I'm still an atheist, but I understand now why people seek this adrenaline rush.
I hope you have an opportunity to try as well someday.
Thank you for this. A true and worthy philosophical discussion between two intelligent and aware people (and how rare it is on the social media forum). Both of you very eloquently express many of the ideas, concepts and feelings people of a contemplative inclination (which ought to be everyone) experience and struggle with but don't have access to a means of expression for. A very rewarding watch which reminds one that the unexamined life is indeed not worth living - or at the very least, a lot more bewildering and frightening than it ought to be.
It's like the left brain and right brain having a conversation.
That's exactly what is happening. Derren appeals to the ' male brain' or left brain which is useless since we need balance of female and male energies within us. The problem with Derren's ' Stoicism' is that it is too left brained or ' male energy' orientated and falls under Yin. Russell's meditation is a right brain function ' Female energy' which connects with the unseen, empathy, creativity compassion. The Universe basically is male and female energy. There must without question be a balance within us of these energies to find peace. Derren is also a fan of NLP and CBT therapy which again arise from SToicism ( male energy) he is also very much a mathematical thinker , again left brained, CBT and NLP are useless to highly emotional or empathetic people that ' feel' everything in this world. This is why he says he is only a little bit ' liberal left' it's almost a 'centrist' position ( middle of the road etc) Never ever deny the female energy, creative energy within you ( or male energy if you are female) doesn't matter how foolish you think you look, never ever repress who you really are. Stocism might help if you are not particulary an emotional person but it is futile in the grand scheme of things. So when he says " Why everything is more or less ok" in his book it is false he also goes on about having a ' good death' my feeling is that Stoicism helps him stay grounded because he is ultimately afraid of losing control. He does not believe in energies beyond the physical world and is very much science based and non spiritual and has never experienced astral travel to other worlds or dimensions. Believe me they exist, and consciousness is not wedded to the body, we are not our bodies. When Derren says he has never needed to meditate because he has never suffered Anxiety is not really an answer. Meditation is for anyone that wishes to truly understand the higher self and the knowledge that comes from the Universal mind where everything is deeply connected.
@@Mysterywhiteboy78 i partially disagree, as we go deeper into NLP specially at Derren's level it becomes more intuitive and emotional than what you think, NLP is done right when it is intuitive. We all have different balance of male & female, i don't think it's as black and white.
@@rzr_9114 I didn't say it was black or white.....
@@Mysterywhiteboy78 just read your comment. A very profound and excellent response.
Love this comment too. Checkout a book called the master and his emissary
A very tolerant, tactfull and wise guest who has a great sense of humour, based in stoicism, what a great gift to you russell and us. He's there already. A man of grace, his humility proves his power.
Darren is a gorgeous human being. Not unlike yourself Russell. You Brits are fabulously refreshing.
Hanora Brennan thank you
I’m not. I’m awful.
I never realized how sharp and articulate Russell is. Good conversation most definitely! Thanks you guys
Organic Man oh he is the most articulate man I’ve ever heard.
@@williamusrex6417 I love Russel, but even he would tell you that Terence McKenna is right up there too. do check him out, you're in for a treat if you do.
But i wouldnt say more articulate than darren.
He’s brilliant. 👍🏻
Just take a breath once in awhile ....
Thanks for this Russell! I'm an American whose been a DB fan for many years. What a treat to watch this interview. Cheers!
Mandela effect my friend
I agree that Russell is a very lovely man and I can totally see him being this way with Derren's mom. That was a beautiful piece of insight to get about him straightaway in this interview.
LOVE THIS SESSION SO MUCH!! Very well conducted Russell, you two bounce off each other so well! I particularly loved Derren's story about the Parrot sanctuary at the end ☺️ Would love to see Derren on here again at some point in the near future 🙌🏻
This conversation is bringing me so much excitement. Giddy!
It was a good book, Happy. I read it twice and I'm so dim that I still need to read it again to try to completely get my head around it, lol. Derren truly is a clever chap. I was comforted by the fact that I couldn't relate to the idea of people wanting bigger cars, houses, more material stuff, etc, etc, I think that could be a decent place to start, not caring about what people think about the car you drive and so on. So, soooo much to learn though. I could probably re-read the book over and over until the day I die and still not fully remember and act upon the content! One thing's for sure, you learn something new every day. Like someone says here in the comments about a fool thinking he's a genius and Derren being the polar opposite of that. What a clever, humble chap. Then you've got Russell - can be hilarious and also very deep. Sometimes Russell speaks so many long words so quickly that I have to "rewind" and put the videos on a slower speed and even then, still listen to it a few times. Oh, how I wish I had a clever brain like these two guys. I guess I try, accept my limitations but do my best, all anyone can do eh. Crikey, I ramble a load of rubbish, and I know that nobody cares lol! If you ever have insomnia, be sure to come back here and read my comment - I can definitely help you fall asleep. Although Derren could probably do that a lot quicker than this comment with his skills.
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We all good at things and bad at other’s; we express,become our selves by the choices we make :what we pickup and what we put down?)🙈🙉🐵✊🖖🙏🥃🥃🥃😎
Russell Brand is a true man of the people
NO he is not! That is his whole shtick to pretend to be a man of the humble people but actually he is a full on elitist and despises the lowly people. He pretends to be against big money corporations, banks, ect but everything he supports is beneficial for the global elite and terrible for the lowly common people who are too dumb and backward to understand his highly compassionate and intellectual takes. BRAND HATES THE PEOPLE AND LOVES THE ELITE!
Enjoyed this conversation very much without having to interact. Just what I needed being a fly on the wall. Thank you both
Your broadcasts are the most interesting pieces of thought I heard for a long time. To be precise, since I had philosophy classes about 20 years ago. There is so much stuff you are talking about and there is so much content. I thank you very much and wish to see you live any time soon. Kind regards
Russell, thanks for your courage to speak out truth. Difficult to do these days. Big love
Russell does a great job on these podcasts!
it is not the truth at all, derren tried church, when you try Jesus you don't go back!, a bit of advice to you all, if you are constantly questioning things and searching, try the Answer!, his name is Jesus Christ and he is the way, the TRUTH and the life as he says in the Gospel of John, and trust me I have tried EVERYTHING, from all drugs and drink to catholic to atheist to jedhi!!! you don't even have to believe me though, go straight to the source and humble yourself with a honest heart and ask the Lord Jesus to reveal hiself to you and I PROMISE you he will..........................WATCH OUT though because what you ask for he will give you in bucket loads. God bless.X
Jesus will tell you to differently I would think. We are nothig without Our Father. The jesus tune being pushed is an agenda. Jesus saved us already. But we have to connect to our father and open our ears to listen. Its our choice still and you cant be saved unless you choose to be saved.
Oh yessss The Christ Jesus is 100% real, trust me. He is the Way the Truth and the Life. I won't bore everyone with my testimony but He is the ultimate problem solver. Open your heart and have Faith in Christ the Redeemer and the Prince of Peace. Nothing beats having Jesus in one's Life.. No drink or drug trumps having the Love of Christ in one's Life❤️❤️😊😍
@@gailkitching3623 Here here, sister ❤️❤️🙏
Derren Brown, cleverer than he thinks of himself.
Yeah, rare breed. He's a bit of a genius
Cleverer is not a real word. 😛
Adjectives of more than two syllables always form their comparative with more. ... The adjective “common” does not come under this category. Common is a two syllable word but ends with “-er ” So in my opinion Clever , cleverer ,cleverest is correct.
I made ya google it. :)
Cleverer as well as More clever
Gentler as well as More gentle
Quieter as well as More quiet
Farther as well as Further
Friendlier as well as More friendly
@@terrykrow7820 You're right, _cleverer_ and _more clever_ are both correct.
You're just really good at bringing out people's humanity aren't you, my friend?
I found myself watching his reflection in the window more than the focus of the camera. Comparative I’d say to how we view self and other. An ideal in one hand, solid, metaphysical and the true form in the other.
I agree; Derren does seem enlightened in a very unassuming way. A mirror to how to live a good life as you feel able and capable, and accept yourself, your strengths, your limitations, the time for downtime. You’re a different animal in same jungle Russell. Love your work! Love both these men. xx
Brand & Brown. Two of my favourite people....couldn't get any better.
Being concerned with politics shouldn't be looked down on. It's not lesser than pondering global consciousness when people are suffering & dying due to policy.
I think the point is that it's draining in that it is quite a negative endeavour in our society, politics is to solve problems instead as what it should be which is to do good: for DB he said he's not confrontational enough, that at heart he's too accommodating, for RB he said he just needs to retool himself and I imagine views his current work as coming at it from the side...or indeed from within: IMO neither looked down on it.
I think the point is that it's draining in that it is quite a negative endeavour in our society, politics is to solve problems instead as what it should be which is to do good: for DB he said he's not confrontational enough, that at heart he's too accommodating, for RB he said he just needs to retool himself and I imagine views his current work as coming at it from the side...or indeed from within: IMO neither looked down on it.
Politics are a man made religion.
russell please dont put your podcast behind a paywall. Your voice needs to be heard. Go on to patreon. People will support you!
@The New Paulo Coelho I love Paulo, how are you the new Paulo Coelho?
his words maybe
OMG you are a great teacher❤️ I have been praying for wisdom and teachers .
These are all the things I have tried to speak to others with -- to no avail... Russell so damn proud of you my friend...I used to not like your life ...you were boring to me...-- a lower frequency.. but Bravo! Thank you for sharing this beautiful information with all of your guests. Being a Christian and relationship with God and Jesus, understanding who I am. Jesus tells us who we are. .I love the scripture that Jesus spoke before His ascension " You will do all the same things I have done but even greater things..." Quantum Physics supports the scientific aspect of who we are scientifically...Love this episode...He gave me the words for understanding where I am in my journey. It resonated MY TRUTH ....THANK YOU GUYS, LOVE YOU, MICHELLE
I loved the grape & water break. That instantly sort of regulated my busy mind that i didn’t realize was so busy. The sound of you guys chewing a few juicy grapes was lovely, honestly & I went inside and had a few myself. Sometimes we need to just pause to taste the grapes right in front of us instead of thinking endlessly about how we are going to acquire more grapes in the future.
I could watch these two talk all day
I heard this for the second time tonight and it’s so sweet how Russell says he’s more comfortable with talking about who we are. “We’re not apes.” Deep and adorable. 💜
The combination of these two great minds - Derren Brown and Russell Brand - in a dialogue together was mesmerizing, meaningful, and momentous! I have studied many of the great thinkers they mentioned (Foucault, C.S. Lewis, Aquinas, Richard Bandler, etc) and I just loved this! Whoo-whoo! Such a treat! This was incredibly insightful. Also, when 1:10:20 Brand was talking about emotions like anger that you can witness, he was referring to Praxis where a temporary emotion (glee, rage, doubt) gets morphed into a noun, a set thing, when in reality it is just a temporary state. Brand is so Zen. I swear they were using anchors the whole interview with the grapes! LOL! Superb!
Thank you. Listening and hearing both of you is food for my growth. Forever grateful x
Absolute Authenticity is connection to the light in us all that weaves its silky, loving, gentle, vulnerable, infinitely Interconnected threads in and out and all around everything, everyone, every star and sound wave throughout and throughin the Universe.
I am glad you have your channel Russell, you are authentic. Much to do nowedays, I wish you well.
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I have lived in Ibiza for 10 years. All the brand and bling aside - many, many people gravitate here because you are allowed to offer a truly honest version of yourself from the get-go. And those who have learned to do that, seem to gravitate towards each other.
I, like so many others, have been flushed down the shitter by covid. My plan is to lean into the wind and see where it takes me. Surely, I can't go wrong? ;)
Peace and love to one and all xx
I love Ibiza for the same reasons... Looking forward to going back as soon as it's possible.... 🙏
Yeah right they go there on holiday get hooked on the cheap coke then end up staying there begging you to come into a bar so they can get commission on you 😂
Awe, two of my favourite people! Love, love, love! Next time, please invite Stephen Fry, too.
I have always had a crush on Derren. He is such an excellent person and that magnetism shines through his handsomeness.
"Giant tracts of humanity evolving beyond the systems that we operate in" maybe the best line I've heard in a while
"Meaning trumps happiness". Wow. I shall meditate on this 🙏
Fantastic podcast.... Two blokes chatting about the human condition. 😉
????@@garethevans566 what the actual fuck are you attempting to say? at least try and formulate a coherent sentence.
@@longshotkdb "Try to formulate" is the proper English, moron.
@@longshotkdb I agree with Mel O'Brien here. What you attempted to construct as a coherent sentence is no use of the English language that I'm familiar with.
@@melvynobrien6193 im quite confident its perfectly coherent, even though Is é Béarla mo dhara teanga. why are you using quotation marks and ad hominem attacks? you seem very emotional melony ...
exit 1Ø1
As someone who understands the pettiness of the ad-hominem ‘logical fallacy’ and it’s usage - surely you can
see how your initial Comment rubbed a few people the wrong way?
we all have our own realities 🦋 yet we are all connected in the universal consciousness of evolution even after we cross over 🌻 you will have to have your own personal experience with an open mind to realize or understand this 🥀 ☮
Yes the real Revolution is the evolution of consciousness 🌈 xxxxxxxxxxx
"...it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven...it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
-The Eye of the Needle
Could you imagine just working for someone this excellent and the influence and informal education one would gain by mere exposure to his thoughts? It beats Oxford hands down. His wife is also as lovely in character. What a privilege to hear these videos.
2 beautiful human beings and one beautiful conversation. Thank you 🙏🏻💗
Brilliant, simple and profound at the same time. Thanks guys.
I saw Derren + Russel, I clicked and realised I had no idea what would happen in this chat = a joy :-)
22:50 Russell writing down "emotional manipulation"
Derren brown my G. never a leader or follower bee. No flags. No borders. No gods. No masters. Freedom to all. Faster! Faster!
When u get a guest like Derren Brown, one gets him to talk more and specially questions about his way of subtle suggestion to create a hidden message within a normal conversation, that changes free will. That is his highest skill. His memory comes next.