No glasses required - 360 degree view of Voxon Photonics 3D Volumetric Display
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- When you create a truly 3D display that can be viewed from any direction, it becomes necessary to film it in a way that accurately conveys its unique capabilities to an audience whose primary viewing platform is 2D video.
The best method we thought of was to use a 5-axis robot arm with tracking sensors located in the head unit that interfaced to the Voxon Photonics VX1s runtime engine which would allow scene-specific zooms and flawless 360-degree tracking.
That would have been very costly, however, so instead, we hung our tripod on a rubber cord from the ceiling and wound it up like a rubber band..
For more information please email contact@voxon.co or visit www.voxon.co
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Those 3D maps in military thrillers are one step closer to reality.
They probably already have those
The transparent displays from Avatar and Alien and every other future movie are already being used. Holograms are still years behind though so these are the next best thing.
@@TheTeehee11111yes it already exists ,,arctron" makes a 3D projection on a terrain model which then can be used to simulate all kinds of stuff. It's used for example for urban desing
bro thinks he lives in 1998
@@TheTeehee11111Nah bro, if you join the military you're getting your briefing on a white board with a PowerPoint presentation. Sorry to break it to ya. 😂
5 years from now the youtube algorithm will make this go viral
youtube said 3 weeks instead
im here for it !
One year later and it's in my feed
I'm thinking either 6 months to distract people from the election fraud in USA
Or 2 years later when the CIA does some shady stuff...it'll distract people to look at pretty lights
5 Years from now, Apple can steal the tech and call it revolutionary
Imagine how sick something like this would be for gaming. Like a dungeon crawler where you have to look through the three dimensional space to find certain elements
Just think instead of spending people's taxes on defense 😢.
govt. Supportd these kinds of things and provide money for innovation.
it's called camera rotation and its been a thing in games for a long time
This is even more stupid than "VR" and "flying cars"...
go back to the 90s and visit an arcade. these "holographic" glass+mirror based 3d displays were shit back then, theyre still shit now.
Imagine if people would stop falling for VR glasses and "holograms". Shit has been around for decades and it will always suck because its an old technology. Improve it and maybe
Wow, somebody finally made it possible. Nearly 50 years ago as a young aero eng I worked on a similar concept for air traffic control. Alas I could not figure out how to do it because the technology I needed was not available. Glad to see it now exists!
They are not what you're thinking it is. Open air 3d models like in the movies is not possible because light needs a medium to bounce off. You need smoke or a screen to do that.
Even the device in the video vibrates within various planes at a high speed giving you an illusion that the display is hanging in the air. It's a high tech version of that toy fan that shows images in 3d.
A movie like 3d volumetric display is impossible because of how Physics works. Light photons need a medium to bounce off mid way to your eyes and cannot rest in open space. 3d Glasses are the only way to achieve such an illusion.
@@mathurp6889 never say impossible
@@mathurp6889Not possible in the traditional sense. There are already workarounds being developed.
@@mathurp6889 photons do not need a medium to travel... neither can they "rest"
@@lilium-orchid Ahh thanks for the correction. I wrote it incorrectly. I meant that they need a medium to reflect from towards your eyes. They cannot rest in the open space and reflect off nothing. Which is why open air 3d models are not possible without a smoke screen. Although a company is trying to do that by using lasers to create plasma out of air and give off this effect.
It makes me realize how unique the imagination is and the role of science fiction writers. Because we can imagine it, it becomes possible. The science fiction writer points out a target somewhere out in the unseeable distance. And the human imagination charts a course to get there. Miraculous... how wonderful...
Greatly Said My man.
I really love this statement. You really put into words my emotions seeing this kind of stuff😂❤
Man I saw this comment the other day, and it has been making a fair bit of sense since then. Maybe that's just what makes art valuable in general. It reminds me of the quote "if you can dream it, you can do it," and maybe that's what art is for: dreaming it. I think you just made art make more sense for me xD
You're spot on-that's pretty much exactly how it happened! The conversation went something like this:
Gav: "That's impossible, holograms like that don't exist!" Will: "Exactly! So let's build one!"
And then came the hard part...
movies are actually tools used by the "real leaders" of the world to help introduce alien concepts to humans gradually..
I think this technology would gain a lot more attention if you were to modify Super Mario 64 to be playable with this display, probably the PC version. You usually have to start with something familiar before you can drag people in for the long run, and while using SM64 might be a little risky, it would be way more feasible than getting a classic first person shooter like Doom on this display, plus the proper depth that this display can show would be legendary for any 3D platformer.
The problem with a game like SM64 is the gameplay uses a lot of perspective ( Mario in foreground and large castle in background for example ). Games that work well are ones have been designed around a fixed play space like scrolling 3rd person titles ( Dota, League of Legends etc ). There were lots of games of this type back in the 80s, where each level was a finite space.
@@VoxonPhotonics well you can make super mario bros 2 from super nintendo for this. You can do some zelda games for this. There is so many possibilities with this technology. When will it hit the market??
@@VoxonPhotonics I agree with this other guy consider doing a 2d platformer and definitely keep continuing to look at things like dota.
@@VoxonPhotonics what about a 3d tetris.
@@VoxonPhotonics a modern galaga arcade machine using these could be doable and interesting.
This is so cool! This will add a whole new dimension of information to all kinds of things! The anatomy application and medical imaging seem particularly cool. You could look at medical images with a better sense than 2D projections.
I worked in medical imaging and this does not make much sense. What actually does make sense and my former company actually delivers is an AR mode for your Smartphone / Tablet where you can see into the patient with his DICOM volumes being rendered throught AR glasses. This is especially helpful when you have to hit a certain spot with least invasive techiques.
A dedicated holographic display would not make much sense because 1) the doc already can view the DICOM data as 3D volumes on a regular screen with precise (measurement) tools and 2) it would have no benefits over this compared to the AR approach.
Where i do see the real future is to use AR glasses that have stereoscopic displays, so that you can have "real" 3D being layered on top of the real life scene.
@@Donnirononon Yeah absolutely. I've worked on a VR application for viewing DICOMs with AI-processed segmentation layers before which had a lot of potential but was limited in that it couldn't be used during the surgery like an AR overlay could.
The tricky part is not just making it 'good enough' but passing a whole slew of medical certification requirements as well for various risk assessments.
@@DonnironononFor a patient this would be an easy way to explain a condition, so that it might be easier to understand. It wouldn't even have to be a visual of the patients body, just a visual tool to teach people about their own conditions
@@XiadaniLicarayen - You can see it just as easy on a normal screen.
This can be used in education sector for visualisation of subjects like physics which involve imagination. (like problems of mechanics etc)
Something like this could bring back Gaming Arcades!
Probably cost more than a quarter to play, though...
Maybe an arm and a leg and your first born and your Tesla
$6,800.00Price
Now it's all about how economical the resolution and the amount of colors the voxels can contain for mass production..
In order to make a volumetric image, we need to trade color depth for frame per second. We project slices of the scene at around 4000 images per second. So in the case of the VX1, that is around 500,000,000 pixels per second. You can see some colors where we are using dithering to approximate a full-color palette. If you watch our videos of our helical prototype, you will see the benefits of using 3 projectors.
@@VoxonPhotonics Godspeed.
Ahhhh! Still, in future you could probably just use wider data paths to send the extra colour bits down, right? It wouldn't have to be slower if you make it wider. Is this a projector and a reciprocating rectangular screen? Or is the problem that you can only send the projector so much data, and you don't manufacture those yourself?
Currently it does have the disadvantage of looking... "a bit 1990s" with the graphics. Is that to do with having to process so many pixels, that you have to render fewer polygons?
@@greenaum I honestly prefer the "future retro" aesthetic.... In my opinion this is PERFECT!
so what your saying is it isnt cost effective at all, and has drawbacks @@VoxonPhotonics
I want to see Adventure Time's Card Wars on this display, since it's essentially identical. It'd be a phenomenal way to play card games that summon things. Yu-gi-oh is another great example that would look amazing.
Yes
that would be so sick. i’d buy in a heartbeat
I was thinking Yu-gi-oh too!!!
This can be used in education sector for visualisation of subjects like physics which involve imagination. (like problems of mechanics etc)
The problem is making this widely available so the market can support the effort. If this is a niche toy, it'll never happen.
MTG Arena gave up pretty quick on making cool card animations after a very short stint, and they didn't even need to worry about reading a physical card and displaying a truly 3d model.
This technology needs to be used to play a children's card game!
Hope I can make it to the day seeing my children summon dragon and magician in backyard :))
*dark magician noises*
Card wars from adventure time will be a reality.
this but unironically
Devs won't even support unique animations and objects on existing tech (looking at you, WotC)
Seems we are finally getting close to the realm of Holograms.
holograms are suspended in air and those are still archaic compared to volumentric displays
Holograms are technically 3d images when viewed from different angles, but on a 2d plane. If you have ever seen the book marks that change, those are more similar to what is technically a hologram. What scifi movie holograms are would be volumetric displays, just projected on nothing/in air
$11,700?! Looks im gonna have to wait a few years/decades for a chance to try this out
this is so wild, we live in a time of VR, sophisticated AI robots, DNA nanobots, hologram displays, where all that was science fiction 20 years ago.
This is the first era in human history where we wrote fiction and lived to see it become reality.
I thought Jules Verne and HG Wells wrote a lot of fiction that became reality in their lifetimes. Heavier than air flight, lasers, instant comms over vast distances, travel to the moon etc.
@@emotown1 maybe they did but none of your examples were that. Telegraphs were invented in their youth, hot air balloons are extremely heavy, we never actually put men on the moon, etc
@@neetpride5919 Fаtherless behavior.
@@Ranstone nah, Jules Verne and HG Wells didn't even write about fatherless behavior
Since you guys are called voxon photonics, then how about making a demo with photon's wavefunction?
Sounds interesting, can you please send some more details of what that is to contact@voxon.co.
It should be used to display the Death Star plans
Just about to say the same. A lot of Bothans died to bring the Alliance that information.
Is that a block of Aerogel?
As a kid watching sci-fi movies in the late 80's and throughout the 90's, seeing this finally realized is really cool.
They are not what you're thinking it is. Open air 3d models like in the movies is not possible because light needs a medium to bounce off. You need smoke or a screen to do that.
Even the device in the video vibrates within various planes at a high speed giving you an illusion that the display is hanging in the air. It's a high tech version of that toy fan that shows images in 3d.
A movie like 3d volumetric display is impossible because of how Physics works. Light photons need a medium and cannot rest in open space. 3d Glasses are the only way to achieve such an illusion.
@@mathurp6889 I understand the point you're making. And I went into this with the exact same understanding. However, it's perfectly clear that this is an actual volumetric display because there are several angles shown, including from the bottom, and it's clearly a true volumetric display. I won't pretend to understand how this is being accomplished and I don't think you should either. But it seems clear that this isn't an illusion.
There's a "milky" looking inner box from what I can see. This seems to provide the medium for the light to reflect. But again, there's obviously much more to this technology than just simple reflection, at least in terms of specific output (because overly simplified, this is what's happening).
@@jw11432 I wasn't making guesses. i
I learnt how it works from their own TH-cam channel and webpage.
There is no smoke inside it. The plate vibrates up and down giving an illusion of 3d dispay.
Volumetric displays are actually common. I wasn't talking about those using gas or cloud. I was talking about displays that they show in movies where they can create images in open air without smoke.
In fact I just learnt that a company is trying to emulate that using pulse lasers that turns air into plasma and thus there is no need of smoke as a medium.
fantastic idea. I want arcade games built with this! Love the sci-fi 80-90's vibes. How did you manage to have the table moving a such high frequency?
Did you consider using an O-LED panel instead of a projector? By using O-led, it would become possible to stack them in order to have a higher display, right?
There used to be a table top arcade game in the 1980s that was sort of 3D. It used a CRT monitor laying flat pointed up and a big curved mirror at the back. Some how the two made it look like the character was 3D. It was a western gunfight theme if I recall correctly. edit: I didn't think it was 1991 but I see Sega's Hologram Time Traveller seems like what I am thinking of.
@dg-hughes I remember that. Very cool for back then aswell.
@@dg-hughes Wow. I wonder if that one can be found somewhere in the depths of eBay. I would certainly be interested.
This would be insane for things like displaying orbits and such. Since space is 3d, such a display could make for some very interesting things.
Kind of like this ? th-cam.com/video/jsp4yugiAao/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PRUeyFUzbFOvwvAf
The solar system itself is pretty much flat by itself due to the way it forms 😅 but yeah, if we're talking galaxy maps, or possibly maybe projecting a black hole with the correct gravitational lensing 👀👀
@@aogasdthe solar system might be largely along a plane, but the smaller bodies in it don't always orbit that way, and if you're looking at orbits around a single body they definitely don't always orbit that wgs.
Make it play doom
Isn't it nice to think that in future when we're old or maybe dead that as soon as a new way to see things some will say, "Make it play Doom."
Nioce.
m.th-cam.com/video/na7pvihXhYs/w-d-xo.html
wait, how does this work?
Speedy fans with many leds on it and start spinning til it's metric display 😅 guess so
They watched Star Trek Voyager and analysed the footage to reverse engineer the holo emitters
This needs more attention, it’s so dope
Thanks, please spread the word!
How far up can you build it vertically before framerate issues start to arise?
How I assume this works is a film traversing up and down at breakneck speeds which then slices of a 3d image are projected onto it, right?
But like, what happens when you decide to make a really tall one?
I don't think they'd need to make a tall one, just a cubic one.
I bet you could watch a movie on one if it were shaped like a cube.
@@vanillagorilla8696 what if it were huge and had some space for you to stand in the middle?
the huge one would be dope, reminded me a Blade runner reference.. I can imagine bigger version of this being used on architecture as an advertisement placeholder. We now have AI chatbots and AI image generators which unlocked possibility of AI personalities train on libraries of data.. Why not combine this tech, upscale it and make a fortune? Cuz they dont know how,.. my guess
its a spinning screen with depth
They missed a good opportunity to display CTN 0452-9. That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the thumbnail.
Honestly I just Ana De Armas dancing on my coffee table blade runner style lol
these things would break so insanely quick, i wonder if they could make a solidstate version using electric glass that can just become more opaque with an electric signal. might allow for increased fps or height too.
1:00 Imagine that chess like game Chewbacca and C-3P0 played in the original Star Wars movie. Now imagine at Disneyland’s Star Wars Galaxy’s Edge we have tables like that for people to play. Perhaps in the Millennium Falcon, Cantina, or waiting in line.
Ok how does this work?
PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THIS WORKS!!!
This technology looks great! But, I can only imagine what a catastrophic mechanical failure would look like.
And the volume...
@@TimmmmCam not any louder than a projector with cooling fans
th-cam.com/video/8h6uZK1Cey8/w-d-xo.html its not very loud actually, and we've not had any catastrophic failures yet thankfully
@@VoxonPhotonics Impressive!
@@VoxonPhotonics lol. That's good! The technology looks pretty cool.
Fascinating. I was talking with my friend how useful one of these would be when looking at walks/hikes across mountains
Yea it would be real great to carry a big glass cube up a mountain
Future thing is becoming real... Amazing
Imagine this being surrounded by touchscreen panels so that you could put your finger on top to control XZ and on one of the sides to control Y of the fully blown 3d cursor
Good point... the fully blown DD cursor.
or even simpler, IR touch so you don't need full panels
It looks like Aerogel. Have you tried projecting onto that with very focused light?
none of the videos on this channel has the raw audio of this operating, its always dubbed over with music, which indicates to me that its very loud/noisy.
but can you play doom on it?
Yes
All I can see is the scene in "Empire Strikes Back" where they are strategically analyzing the Battle of Hoth. Shits crazy
From the looks of it, it's probably a thin film going up and down really fast in a vacuum, right? How noisy is the display? Cost?
How the h*** does this work??? Shouldn't it already revolutionize the world
bro we got holograms already !?!??!!
imagine playing minecraft on this lol
Now imagen a whole room, While you play games or watch movies. That would be awesome!
Amazing technology! Need to try it in military mock-up technology
No glasses required... except for the special camera it has to be viewed through
My dumb ass thinking the tripod was part of the display
1:00 The chess would be feasible if the opposing sides were different colours :)
You are on the bleeding edge of display concepts, well done! I want one for my fractals.
Bleeding edge? No
This is simply reflecting light off translucent panels.
@@escapedcops08 More creativity and original thought featured in this video than you have mustered across a lifetime
@@escapedcops08 So what? It works. It didn't exist before. It's cheaper and simpler than most 3D volumetric displays. Also the resolution is only limited by the projector's specs, not the table hardware. Just increase the FPS and you'll have more resolution in depth. This is fantastic! I want one!
@@wingdingdmetrius8025 lmao fanboys got offended
@@escapedcops08"escape the cops" lmao
Is it the future yet?
The shit with the fly zooming into the fly infinitely is so sick
Do you remember those tabletop arcade games we used to get, that would be the perfect format for this technology.
Okay, don't tell us how it works then.
Holograms are slowly becoming a reality!
THIS IS INSANE !!!!
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How does it work? It looks stunning!
In simple terms, our DLL slices up 3D data into hundreds of layers and then projects them at around 4000fps onto a very fast-moving screen in perfect sync with the movement of the screen. It's like a 3D printer, only about 100,000 times faster and using light instead of plastic filament.
@@VoxonPhotonics that's amazing! But isn't that a lot of stress for the whole system?
@@ceserarus Not at all because we take advantage of the natural principle of resonance. The screen subsystem is designed to have a natural resonance of 15hz, so that when given a small input vibration, it naturally resonates up and down 8cm. The screen only weighs around 140 grams. As the screen vibrates up and down, it completes 30 passes of the volume every second.
@@VoxonPhotonics that is a really clever solution! Thank you guys for all the info. Do you want to make something more consumer friendly like Looking Glass did with the Portrait. I would really enjoy a small holographic display!
@@VoxonPhotonics Could you add more screens every 8cm to make it taller and add height to the display?
Looks like an ace combat mission briefing
If this is the Mk.1 version, I want the Mk.5 version built to be ~72cm X 109cm, at least, to have super-high resolution and in full colour so I can watch -pr0n- the footy in 3d. Oh, and I want to be able to zoom in... for replays, obviously! 😎😂
Looks like a cube of aerogel beingbused as the medium
can't wait to see this thing hooked to a live mri feed one day
Where can i buy this? 😆
This can be used in education sector for visualisation of subjects like physics which involve imagination. (like problems of mechanics etc)
I would buy one
Yea but can it run Doom?
The problem is, this technology has no killer app to advance it.
Maybe one day.
Imagine playing C & C
Remember in Star wars the holographic fighting ring on the millennium falcon?
This is the coolest thing ever.
Why aren't we making first-generation consoles with this? We could literally spam all the Gameboy and Arcade Classics through Unreal Engine with basically the same limit on color palette.
Tbh, I’m almost equally impressed by that wacky tripod setup 😭
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I am intrigued in how it works. Sorry but the explanation in description doesn't seem very clear to me.
I see 4 glass walls required and still you won't get immersive virtual environment in full color... Btw, I can have holograms in my living room too with my cheap VR headset. But keep it up, VR headsets in the 90s were really expensive and limited, now affordable and great, so maybe in 30 years this is good...
"No glasses required" but you do require a GIANT ROTATING TURRET
Neat... How many tens of thousands of dollars will it cost?
Tony Starks: I did that hologram thing like what 13 years ago!
Love your work Voxon team!
What they say: "Imagine games!"
What they think: "Imagine pr0n!"
What we'll get: **cyberpunk corporation advertising**
But can it run doom?!
m.th-cam.com/video/na7pvihXhYs/w-d-xo.html yes.
I've been thinking about looking into this myself, though I don't know how expensive a projector like this is (or if I can even find one). Obviously it probably wouldn't be worth trying to learn to make one myself, since I imagine it would be far too time consuming and expensive to make.
Besides, I imagine it's currently not possible to draw anything but wire frames for the moment at least. This kinda reminds me of those old 3D video games that were wire frames, though eventually they figured out how to make more 3D objects, then figured out how to texture them. I guess you guys are going to go through a similar process, but time will tell.
EDIT: I just saw your video on "ray traced baked lighting", so it seems you're already working on that.
why does this only have 800 likes? that`s insane. it`s some starwars grade of technlolgy!!
Does the display make a lot of noise? All demos are with an overlying soundtrack..
The big problem is: nothing feels solid. Everything is transparent because of the nature of light.
$6,800.00 Price tag is insane. Gotta make it a lot cheaper.
Possible to make this product cost around 200-300$? Than it would be wildly used
Like mama said, *USE YOUR WORDS* _Descriptions would be better than _*_PORN MUSIC._*
Does it use layers of Micro LED displays for this effect or is it something else completely?
Version 5+ of this could be amazing, if it continues to advance. Higher resolution, higher dynamic range, and high color depth. Animated dioramas -- Simulations of historical times in museums and schools. Or even just sports entertainment where you can move about the field to different vantage points all in real time.
How did they make a rectangular display? I'm familiar with their cylindrical display, based on rotating a fan that has LED lights on it. How does this one work?
This would be excellent as a decorative item.
For 3D games and engineering, anatomy and architecture classes. Why isn't it still successful?
Imagine decorating your gaming room with bright neon 3D vehicles and characters, or decorating your home with figurative or abstract moving 3D characters and images, like a kinetic sculpture.
Do we really need to waste energy for home decoration? Bro just buy some handcrafts
It comes with a big sound noise. You wouldnt want it as deco.
It's a spinning screen, so it makes some noise, and it's a lot bigger than just the projected object you see.
Help me, Obi-Wan! You're my only hope!
THE VOXON VX1 - $11,700 USD PLUS SHIPPING
Military aircraft mechanics have glasses that allow something similar to this in real time, seeing through the craft to follow the electrical components.
now imagine this for minecraft, what microsoft originally promised with the hololense but actually working
Is that a large block of hydrogel?!? If it is, this is genius. A display made out of this stuff would be very durable. Very nice presentation ❤️
Nope man that is even better... its a vibrating membrane. It vibrates so fast that you cant see it. The height is the oscillation range. The membrane is square
@martinsimeonov1563 ,that is even better. It's so rad how creative people can be.
sounds loud, is it loud?
@@EqualToBen i guess it is but there's lots variations showing a dome so i guess they use it in air like that only to tweak while the complete version has the transparent half-ball (probably vacuumed)
bullshit, its a simple fog generator. thats why its shot in low light conditions. they use multiple projectors (probably laser projectors) to project light into that space. shold be quite similar to this, just more refined: th-cam.com/video/v0bXuCIwtJo/w-d-xo.html @@martinsimeonov1563
Please state the nature of the medical emergency.
Very cool. Unlike youtube, which sucks.
If you don't make an Obi-Wan Kenobi animation, then what are we really doing here?
Time for another round in yourubes algorithm.
Nothing close to market yet I guess..
I want this, and I want to know how it works and what all is involved in making this useful amd practical.
How does that work…..
I saw those Voxatron games in there, don't think I didn't!