Dr Kiraly was the chairman of the history department at Brooklyn College when I was a student there many moons ago. He was a very popular teacher, as you might expect, and an expert on military history. It was very difficult to get into any of his classes and unfortunately I was never able to. He lived until his late nineties.
Just a quick update, Contestant #3 was Bela Kiraly. Here is a link to his wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9la_Kir%C3%A1ly. It was hard to understand his pronunciation, but I know Bela is a very common Hungarian name. Thank you again for taking the time to share these. They are a great resource for people interested in recent history.
On Wikipedia, the Hungarian patriot's name is spelled Bela Kiraly. He returned to Hungary after the fall of Communism in that country in 1989 and was elected to the post-Communist Hungarian national assembly. He died in Budapest at the age of 97 in 2009.
Texas Shorty, or Jim Chancellor, as he is known by his real name, is even today a well respected senior member of the old-time fiddle community. He would have been only about 17 years old when this episode was filmed. A great fiddler!
@@ravendraws51 if true, that's pretty cool. Hope you can visit him as often as possible. He was born to play the Violin, Fiddle is what you do to a Violin. Lol... and if he was only 17 in this episode? He must have achieved greatness 34. Please tell him him a real nobody says "hey" 💖✌😊
@@ravendraws51 Well he probably wore out a couple of Violins by now, and it must of been like watching home movies I'll bet. They must be waiting with great anticipation for him to come home and play at any time forever. Because you see, we are all immortal. 💖✌
I don’t understand why the majority of questions the panel asked Brenda Starr’s creator were about other comic strips! Why should she be expected to know about the others?
Király Béla was a true hero, not only in his role as a leader of the Hungarian Revolution of 1956, but also in the way that he dealt with Jews at a time when Hungary was an ally of the Axis Powers. And by the way, Hungarian names are the opposite of most European names: family name first, and given name second. (I'm glad that he lived such a long time, and that he was able to witness the collapse of Communism in his homeland!)
As always, I'm astounded at how intelligent TV was 60 years ago. Whenever I hear the vocabulary of the people on quiz shows, I know their erudition would never fly now. I was fortunate to grow up watching shows like TTTT and What's My Line? I came here because I wanted to see Dale Messick, creator of my all time favorite comic strip, "Brenda Starr, Reporter." I think that panelists back then were blinkered by rigid gender stereotypes in the workplace and could not envision a woman comic artist being as successful as Dale Messick was. Their questions centered on successful male comic artists that Starr's creator would presumably be able to name, rather than particular questions about story lines and details in "Brenda Starr, Reporter."
Dale Messick's real name was Dalia Messick. She chose a gender neutral first name for her professional name exactly because most people in the newspaper business couldn't conceive of a woman cartoonist.
Given the minutely small volume of metal in fiddle strings, it wouldn’t make any appreciable difference in weight whether the strings were steel or iron. In fact, ductile iron is actually less dense than many grades of steel such that ductile iron fiddle strings might be lighter than steel strings by as much as a whole milligram. Maybe. The sound quality probably would be pretty bad though, so fiddlers should probably keep lugging around those heavy steel-strung fiddles.
In round 2, the panel thought they had an obvious choice in mind, only to be beaten by the not-so-obvious, thus the "primrose path" comment from Bud at the end.
+Steve Byrd I agree. But this is getting to be a bad habit on this show. Absolute *lies* . There is *no way* the person could *not* know the names of their own characters, etc. Was it a car or something? *They may as well have been pleading the 5th Amendment* . I just don't find it fun when a person *could* say, I don't recall or I don't know. Instead they sit with glazed over eyes sort of like a deer in the headlights. (Except deer are
@@marthahanley6650 Polly didn't ask the real Dale Messick then name of the car. She asked when a minor character (Lily Vine) first appeared in the strip. Lily was one of the most obscure characters in the strip and it isn't beyond the pale that Dale needed more than a few seconds to come up with an answer. Brenda Starr had been running for 20 years when this show aired with at least a hundred story lines and characters over that time.
At the time the best known Dale was a male...Dale Robertson, who starred in TALES OF WELLS FARGO. If this had occurred at the other end of the decade, after the TV commercial where a teenage boy exclaims after grabbing a woman in the pool because she looked like her daughter..."I thought you were Dale!", they would have been more likely to think a female could have that name.
@@tomservo56954 There was nothing that I could find online with a quick search. Don was 20 years younger and born in Buffalo. Dale was from Indiana and moved to NYC before starting "Brenda Starr". Since it is not a common last name, they could be distant relatives.
On the first one, I knew a few second after the questioning that wasn't #3. The country singers name is Ernest Tubbs, not ERNIE Tubbs And Polly Bergan, who I USED to like, unfortunately has REALLY gotten on my last nerve!!
I would have liked to have known if Tom knew how to pronounce it lol. I also thought the Texas geography questions were a bit silly given the enormity of the state, but I guess it was worth a shot. As you say, it would have been a dead giveaway.
Dr Kiraly was the chairman of the history department at Brooklyn College when I was a student there many moons ago. He was a very popular teacher, as you might expect, and an expert on military history. It was very difficult to get into any of his classes and unfortunately I was never able to. He lived until his late nineties.
BRO THE TEXAS SHORTY IS MY GRANDPA OMG- he gave me a fiddle but I never played so he laughed and took it back- I wish sooo bad I played it!
Just a quick update, Contestant #3 was Bela Kiraly. Here is a link to his wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9la_Kir%C3%A1ly. It was hard to understand his pronunciation, but I know Bela is a very common Hungarian name. Thank you again for taking the time to share these. They are a great resource for people interested in recent history.
On Wikipedia, the Hungarian patriot's name is spelled Bela Kiraly. He returned to Hungary after the fall of Communism in that country in 1989 and was elected to the post-Communist Hungarian national assembly. He died in Budapest at the age of 97 in 2009.
Texas Shorty, or Jim Chancellor, as he is known by his real name, is even today a well respected senior member of the old-time fiddle community. He would have been only about 17 years old when this episode was filmed. A great fiddler!
Hehe he’s my grandpa, he’s a real sweetie, love him tons
@@ravendraws51 if true, that's pretty cool. Hope you can visit him as often as possible. He was born to play the Violin, Fiddle is what you do to a Violin. Lol... and if he was only 17 in this episode? He must have achieved greatness 34. Please tell him him a real nobody says "hey" 💖✌😊
@@buddybates3247 sadly he doesn’t play much anymore, but he still loves it and had a good laugh at this clip
@@ravendraws51 Well he probably wore out a couple of Violins by now, and it must of been like watching home movies I'll bet. They must be waiting with great anticipation for him to come home and play at any time forever. Because you see, we are all immortal. 💖✌
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I don’t understand why the majority of questions the panel asked Brenda Starr’s creator were about other comic strips! Why should she be expected to know about the others?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Béla_Király
interesting game and contestants... This man was was truly heroic and moral in a time of horrific atrocities.
Király Béla was a true hero, not only in his role as a leader of the Hungarian Revolution of 1956, but also in the way that he dealt with Jews at a time when Hungary was an ally of the Axis Powers. And by the way, Hungarian names are the opposite of most European names: family name first, and given name second. (I'm glad that he lived such a long time, and that he was able to witness the collapse of Communism in his homeland!)
yes, I was inferring that in my comments...very heroic and honored by Israel for his courage and humanity at at time when there was none.
Man #1 in Game #1
Lady #1 in Game #2
Man #3 in Game #3
I loved the Fiddler. So good!
I was born May 8,1960.
5 months before I was born.
As always, I'm astounded at how intelligent TV was 60 years ago. Whenever I hear the vocabulary of the people on quiz shows, I know their erudition would never fly now. I was fortunate to grow up watching shows like TTTT and What's My Line? I came here because I wanted to see Dale Messick, creator of my all time favorite comic strip, "Brenda Starr, Reporter." I think that panelists back then were blinkered by rigid gender stereotypes in the workplace and could not envision a woman comic artist being as successful as Dale Messick was. Their questions centered on successful male comic artists that Starr's creator would presumably be able to name, rather than particular questions about story lines and details in "Brenda Starr, Reporter."
Dale Messick's real name was Dalia Messick. She chose a gender neutral first name for her professional name exactly because most people in the newspaper business couldn't conceive of a woman cartoonist.
Given the minutely small volume of metal in fiddle strings, it wouldn’t make any appreciable difference in weight whether the strings were steel or iron. In fact, ductile iron is actually less dense than many grades of steel such that ductile iron fiddle strings might be lighter than steel strings by as much as a whole milligram. Maybe. The sound quality probably would be pretty bad though, so fiddlers should probably keep lugging around those heavy steel-strung fiddles.
In round 2, the panel thought they had an obvious choice in mind, only to be beaten by the not-so-obvious, thus the "primrose path" comment from Bud at the end.
+Steve Byrd I agree. But this is getting to be a bad habit on this show. Absolute *lies* . There is *no way* the person could *not* know the names of their own characters, etc. Was it a car or something? *They may as well have been pleading the 5th Amendment* . I just don't find it fun when a person *could* say, I don't recall or I don't know. Instead they sit with glazed over eyes sort of like a deer in the headlights. (Except deer are
@@marthahanley6650 Polly didn't ask the real Dale Messick then name of the car. She asked when a minor character (Lily Vine) first appeared in the strip. Lily was one of the most obscure characters in the strip and it isn't beyond the pale that Dale needed more than a few seconds to come up with an answer. Brenda Starr had been running for 20 years when this show aired with at least a hundred story lines and characters over that time.
At the time the best known Dale was a male...Dale Robertson, who starred in TALES OF WELLS FARGO. If this had occurred at the other end of the decade, after the TV commercial where a teenage boy exclaims after grabbing a woman in the pool because she looked like her daughter..."I thought you were Dale!", they would have been more likely to think a female could have that name.
*Contestant #3 correct name is Király Béla Kálmán (name at birth) also known as Béla Király.*
3 for 3, but I remembered Dale Messick from WML and I am half-Hungarian so I had some clues in the final game.
She any relation to Don Messick, who did voices for cartoons?
@@tomservo56954 There was nothing that I could find online with a quick search.
Don was 20 years younger and born in Buffalo. Dale was from Indiana and moved to NYC before starting "Brenda Starr". Since it is not a common last name, they could be distant relatives.
@@loissimmons6558You are just guessing, again, my dear, which is not particularly helpful at all.
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I'm here just to look at Polly ❤
Polly Bergen is a broken record when it comes to relating why she voted for who she did!
What happens to a fiddler's dog?
What's the difference between a Fiddler and a dog ? The dog knows when to stop scratching !
The answer to what happen's to a fiddler's dog has to be that it howls when it hears the fiddle. Especially if it's a high pitched sound.
I like Tom, but sometimes he wastes his questions.
And it didn't help that he called further attention to Polly "look at me" Bergen. 🙄
On the first one, I knew a few second after the questioning that wasn't #3. The country singers name is Ernest Tubbs, not ERNIE Tubbs
And Polly Bergan, who I USED to like, unfortunately has REALLY gotten on my last nerve!!
Mexia, Tx is pronounced mu haya If he had pulled that one out it would have been a giveaway.
I would have liked to have known if Tom knew how to pronounce it lol. I also thought the Texas geography questions were a bit silly given the enormity of the state, but I guess it was worth a shot. As you say, it would have been a dead giveaway.
Actually, if you're a real old-timer, it's pronounced "muh-HAIR".
Polly is annoying
That's what I use fast forward for. She is endlessly irritating.