Actually, although Animar's protection prevents damage to it, trample damage will still go through, so Adam should've taken 10 commander damage and Ryan should've gained 10 life. Granted, it didn't matter for Ryan since he took infinite commander damage to the face the following turn, but still...
@@Thespqr1997 In this one game, it wasn't. Ryan took lethal commander damage immediately afterwards, so the lifegain didn't matter, and Adam would've still been at a healthy 18 life when he won.
Uril is that deck you thought of building a while ago, forgot about it, got excited to see it in a Muddstah video so you can see how it performs, then dies first without doing much lol. Great video as always though!
@@Caliban_80 Pretty much, yeah, but there's some fun stuff you can only really get the most out of with Uril. Because his power grows so high so easily, power matters cards like Return of the Wildspeaker, Garruk, Primal Hunter, Soul's Majesty, and Rishkar's Expertise become pretty insane. There's also my personal favorite, Mayael's Aria, which serves as a good utility enchantment that eventually serves as a wincon for later. But yes, I'd say Sigarda is pretty much strictly better, I just like Uril more.
@@michaelmcdonald2005 don't forget the point that yeah, Sigarda is probably better, but it isn't a yeti creature in the command zone. That's probably a big draw for some, myself included!
Uril would trample over animar dealing dmg to the player still. Animar can only block the amount of its toughness the rest still goes through just animar wouldn't take the assigned dmg
🤓 702.19b The controller of an attacking creature with trample first assigns damage to the creature(s) blocking it. Once all those blocking creatures are assigned lethal damage, any excess damage is assigned as its controller chooses among those blocking creatures and the player or planeswalker the creature is attacking.
Small heads-up: Galazeth Prismari is misspelled as "Primsari" in the video title :) That Animar Deck really wrecked havoc. I had one two and even without the eldrazi, the commander is just so strong. I eventually took it apart because it's power level was just too high for my playgroup. so many infinite loops came up i hadn't even in mind when building it.
Not necessarely, sometimes you just run good. There was no board wipe either. Remember that Adam was playing one of Ryan's deck, so Ryan knew what power level the deck was.
@@plain6677 my ghalta deck also has draws so much so my LGS has labeled it as a CEDH deck its around 100 dollars but still thrashes every game keep in mind i made this deck as a causal deck but damn it just wins games
One player just got their combo assembled first, that's all. Max was one card away from assembling his own combo: Triskelion or Walking Ballista would've ended the game.
Did I just miss something that gave Animar trample or something? Why couldn't Ryan block Animar with one of his colorless Spirit tokens? Or Max block with one of his green Oozes?
Because Max had so much mana in the form of creatures to sacrifice, he could have done some dumb shenanigans to reduce Adam's life total. After Adam paid 2 life to activate Spellskite to change the Mirage Mirror target to Spellskite, Max could have let the target change resolve, then responded by activating the Mirage Mirror targeting Jin, then activating it again in response targeting the Spellskite. Once it becomes a Spellskite Max could pay 2 life and change the original Mirage Mirror activation target to itself. Once the target is changed, the second Mirage Mirror activation will resolve turning Mirage Mirror into Jin, then the original activation will be targeting a Jin-Gitaxis again. Adam would have to pay 2 life like 5 times to finally stop this since Max had like 32 mana at his disposal. That 10ish life loss plus the 10 life Adam should have lost from Uril's trample would have put Adam pretty low on life Edit: oops nevermind, Adam would only have to activate Spellskite one more time since after the Mirage Mirror becomes something else it wouldn't have the ability to activate the copy ability to restart the loop
i thini that tour previous statement would work: activate the mirror, responding with spellskite, responding with mirror etc. It Will became a Battle between 2 mana and 2 Life until One player give up. than the last ability on the staci resolve First. so the mirror become jin or the spellskite and all the other activation fizzles.
Additionally, no matter how many activations of Mirage Mirror you put on the stack, the first one (which Spellskite redirected) will always resolve last, so that one will prevail.
Meren returns to hand if the CMC of the card is greater than the number of exp counters you have. If its less than or equal to, it returns to the battlefield
Meren will ALWAYS return a creature card at the end step. The only difference is where it goes: if experience is equal or higher than the mana value, it goes to the battlefield. Otherwise, it goes to the hand.
Animar being as lame as usual. After facing one way too often, you kinda get tired of seeing it, specially since it has pro white and pro black for some unfathomable reason.
I guess Animar is from before commander really blew up but commanders really shouldn't have protection from colors. If you play W, B or orzhov all you can hope is for your board wipes and artifact creatures. Most likely you'll be dead by turn 4-5 just from Animar commander dmg. The other two players are not incentivized to do anything about it either until you're eliminated. Just a dud game.
For the videos with strixhaven elder dragons as commanders it might be better to use the last name rather than the first. Prismari, quandrix, witherbloom, Lorehold, and silverquil are more recognizable
That's a fair point, but I'm not proposing calling it something completely different. It would be going by the name That's more commonly used for it. Like how you wouldn't call the ur-dragon "the" in the title of a video, you'd use "ur-dragon" you know? Like I get that technically "shadrix" is the first name of the silverquill elder dragon, but generally you'd call it "silverquill" when referring to it in shorthand.
I would like to note that even though Kevin had the Cyclonic Rift, Adam could've actually done the infinite combo on turn 4 and not 5 if he played the Arbor Elf, followed by the Generator, followed by a Free Spellskite, and have enough to cast the statue. That and Trample and Protection only protects the defense of Animar as the rest goes through, but I didn't think it would be relevant in the end considering Blightsteel, Ulamog, and Void Winnower pretty much sealed the game when he drew some of them from Mulldrifter. Depending on how it went, I probably would've held onto the Rift to Overload it, though it wouldn't have mattered. G.G. Also all the Slime in the world.
Meren will ALWAYS return a creature card at the end step. The only difference is where it goes: if experience is equal or higher than the mana value, it goes to the battlefield. Otherwise, it goes to the hand.
Futhermore after a big stack confusion even if he did reactivated the mirror to target the Jin, it ultimately goes to spellskite because it was the first target.
I swear you guys talk to my wife behind my back or something, every single time your gameplay has a commander I'm interested in, it's not listed. I'm not a net decker, but I love seeing other people's takes on my favorite commanders. Gives me additional ideas, maybe they've seen something I missed. If you guys manage to start actually listing the decklists instead of just "Coming Soon" or making a slot in the description just to leave it blank, I'll join and throw 50 dollars at Patreon...so frustrating. If you want to give insight into your meta, give insight into your meta.
I don't like the combos because a player wins out of nowhere who isn't a threat at the moment. While the other players are laboriously building up a board and trying to win.
The fact that these players didn't immediately team up on Adam demonstrates a level of badness that has me thoroughly disinterested in ever watching another video here again.
Actually, although Animar's protection prevents damage to it, trample damage will still go through, so Adam should've taken 10 commander damage and Ryan should've gained 10 life.
Granted, it didn't matter for Ryan since he took infinite commander damage to the face the following turn, but still...
7:43 - Trample damage still goes through as trample just cares if lethal damage was assigned to the blocking creature
yeah way to many people make this mistake
was rly frustrating to hear it in the video, since that is always relevant
@@Thespqr1997 In this one game, it wasn't. Ryan took lethal commander damage immediately afterwards, so the lifegain didn't matter, and Adam would've still been at a healthy 18 life when he won.
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@@DarkEinherjar in this game i would not have changed the outcome, but the difference in life is something that i think still matters either way
I really love when players have the tokens they need for what the deck can do
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This is exactly why I own about 20 saproling tokens for my Grave deck
My 2/2 cat token was so hard to find. Now I'm happy to have all of the tokens for my almost 50 decks.
my rule is if you don't have your tokens, well, you just don't have any tokens..
Imagine not owning foil tokens for all your decks
Uril is that deck you thought of building a while ago, forgot about it, got excited to see it in a Muddstah video so you can see how it performs, then dies first without doing much lol. Great video as always though!
I will say, my Uril deck is one of my favorites to pilot. Very explosive with just one enchantress, super fun voltron commander
I feel like Sigarda is just strictly better than Uril for what Uril is trying to do. Losing red is really not losing much at all.
@@Caliban_80 Pretty much, yeah, but there's some fun stuff you can only really get the most out of with Uril. Because his power grows so high so easily, power matters cards like Return of the Wildspeaker, Garruk, Primal Hunter, Soul's Majesty, and Rishkar's Expertise become pretty insane. There's also my personal favorite, Mayael's Aria, which serves as a good utility enchantment that eventually serves as a wincon for later. But yes, I'd say Sigarda is pretty much strictly better, I just like Uril more.
@@michaelmcdonald2005 don't forget the point that yeah, Sigarda is probably better, but it isn't a yeti creature in the command zone. That's probably a big draw for some, myself included!
@@tylerpetty577 Oh absolutely.
You love to see the non-overloaded Cyclonic Rift used in response to an infinite combo.
That Reboot reference though! 😁 Someone appreciates fine art.
I LOVE THAT REFERENCE!!! I completely forgot the name of that show but new exactly what you were talking about. Hahah
I really wana see that animar deck list holy crap, might have to build one some time haha
Uril would trample over animar dealing dmg to the player still. Animar can only block the amount of its toughness the rest still goes through just animar wouldn't take the assigned dmg
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702.19b The controller of an attacking creature with trample first assigns damage to the creature(s) blocking it. Once all those blocking creatures are assigned lethal damage, any excess damage is assigned as its controller chooses among those blocking creatures and the player or planeswalker the creature is attacking.
I really hope that Meren decklist comes up!
Small heads-up: Galazeth Prismari is misspelled as "Primsari" in the video title :)
That Animar Deck really wrecked havoc. I had one two and even without the eldrazi, the commander is just so strong.
I eventually took it apart because it's power level was just too high for my playgroup. so many infinite loops came up i hadn't even in mind when building it.
Galazeth looks much more like a dino than a dragon.
Can’t unsee
i dont think they had the whats the power level if your deck talk resulting in an easy win
Not necessarely, sometimes you just run good. There was no board wipe either. Remember that Adam was playing one of Ryan's deck, so Ryan knew what power level the deck was.
Animar had draws, it’s not like that all the time. And opponents had a couple turns to remove it while animar was tapped out
@@Keos027 Indeed. He drew Ancestral Statue with his opening hand. We were done for
@@plain6677 my ghalta deck also has draws so much so my LGS has labeled it as a CEDH deck its around 100 dollars but still thrashes every game keep in mind i made this deck as a causal deck but damn it just wins games
One player just got their combo assembled first, that's all. Max was one card away from assembling his own combo: Triskelion or Walking Ballista would've ended the game.
Did I just miss something that gave Animar trample or something? Why couldn't Ryan block Animar with one of his colorless Spirit tokens? Or Max block with one of his green Oozes?
Void Winnower prevented creatures with even CMCs from blocking
Void Winnower prevents the tokens from blocking since their mana value is 0, which is even.
@@zacharyrichardson2378 ooooh right, forgot about that, thank you
@@Googleflax Yep that was a sad moment for me lol
5:30 - Was spellskite already in his hand before casting the statue? O.o
Yes haha, I was piloting the deck for the first time and miss timed my play.
I mean..that Animar first hand was too good 😅
was v excited to see Galazeth and Uril
Do we have an update to the Animar decklist? Still says "coming soon" :/
DAMN! A REBOOT REFERENCE! I'm old...
I see Muddstah videoes, i like
Your videos are the thing I am waiting to watch after the Monday lecture every week. Thank you for the great content
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Hope to somehow see some spicy jank with these high powered commander. Or at least insane graveyard value because I love that too.
Nice seeing two of my favourite commanders in play! May need to upgrade Animar now! Also love the 9001 damage 😂😂
Loved that Reboot reference!
Love the channel can we please get a decklist for the Animar deck. I've been wanting to build him for a while
What, 9000? There's no way that can be right!
Insert Captain America “I understood that reference” meme for me for that Reboot reference
Because Max had so much mana in the form of creatures to sacrifice, he could have done some dumb shenanigans to reduce Adam's life total. After Adam paid 2 life to activate Spellskite to change the Mirage Mirror target to Spellskite, Max could have let the target change resolve, then responded by activating the Mirage Mirror targeting Jin, then activating it again in response targeting the Spellskite. Once it becomes a Spellskite Max could pay 2 life and change the original Mirage Mirror activation target to itself. Once the target is changed, the second Mirage Mirror activation will resolve turning Mirage Mirror into Jin, then the original activation will be targeting a Jin-Gitaxis again. Adam would have to pay 2 life like 5 times to finally stop this since Max had like 32 mana at his disposal. That 10ish life loss plus the 10 life Adam should have lost from Uril's trample would have put Adam pretty low on life
Edit: oops nevermind, Adam would only have to activate Spellskite one more time since after the Mirage Mirror becomes something else it wouldn't have the ability to activate the copy ability to restart the loop
i thini that tour previous statement would work: activate the mirror, responding with spellskite, responding with mirror etc. It Will became a Battle between 2 mana and 2 Life until One player give up. than the last ability on the staci resolve First. so the mirror become jin or the spellskite and all the other activation fizzles.
Additionally, no matter how many activations of Mirage Mirror you put on the stack, the first one (which Spellskite redirected) will always resolve last, so that one will prevail.
Protection from white would not stop all of the damage from a trample creature, if the creature was larger than the blocker.
Trample dmg goes through.
And the animat player coundnt use spellskite ability in response to Jin hability
Reboot was a dope ass show
Hi um from Brazil and watch ALL your vídeos , your are awesome. :)
Animar is my main. Love to see him go off.
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Made a animar mutate deck thats power is 6 is also a artifact that closer to 8 or 9
I actually get the Reboot reference 🤣🤣🤣
Big X spells and Hellkite Tyrant are great wincons for prismari
When is the animar deck coming out!?!?!
Why not just activate the mirage mirror again? Could just activate again in response to the spellskite activation.
It doesn't matter. The first activation will resolve last, so that one will prevail.
4:15 How does he get to return a 6 mana value card after just playing Meren?
Meren returns to hand if the CMC of the card is greater than the number of exp counters you have. If its less than or equal to, it returns to the battlefield
Meren will ALWAYS return a creature card at the end step. The only difference is where it goes: if experience is equal or higher than the mana value, it goes to the battlefield. Otherwise, it goes to the hand.
Animar being as lame as usual. After facing one way too often, you kinda get tired of seeing it, specially since it has pro white and pro black for some unfathomable reason.
I guess Animar is from before commander really blew up but commanders really shouldn't have protection from colors. If you play W, B or orzhov all you can hope is for your board wipes and artifact creatures. Most likely you'll be dead by turn 4-5 just from Animar commander dmg. The other two players are not incentivized to do anything about it either until you're eliminated. Just a dud game.
unless your doing elemental tribal animar is one of those commanders where it will always be the same.
For the videos with strixhaven elder dragons as commanders it might be better to use the last name rather than the first. Prismari, quandrix, witherbloom, Lorehold, and silverquil are more recognizable
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Or you can just learn what the cards are called 😊
That's a fair point, but I'm not proposing calling it something completely different. It would be going by the name That's more commonly used for it. Like how you wouldn't call the ur-dragon "the" in the title of a video, you'd use "ur-dragon" you know?
Like I get that technically "shadrix" is the first name of the silverquill elder dragon, but generally you'd call it "silverquill" when referring to it in shorthand.
I feel like you're calling out my pile of coins I use as tokens... for Mitotic Slime in particular, but I usually am going to win if I have that out.
Last time I faced animar loop bounce combo I a managorger on the board
I would like to note that even though Kevin had the Cyclonic Rift, Adam could've actually done the infinite combo on turn 4 and not 5 if he played the Arbor Elf, followed by the Generator, followed by a Free Spellskite, and have enough to cast the statue. That and Trample and Protection only protects the defense of Animar as the rest goes through, but I didn't think it would be relevant in the end considering Blightsteel, Ulamog, and Void Winnower pretty much sealed the game when he drew some of them from Mulldrifter. Depending on how it went, I probably would've held onto the Rift to Overload it, though it wouldn't have mattered. G.G.
Also all the Slime in the world.
How could he Pick Mikaeus from Graveyard wird 1 counter?
Meren returns anything to hand. She just reanimates based on XP counters.
Meren will ALWAYS return a creature card at the end step. The only difference is where it goes: if experience is equal or higher than the mana value, it goes to the battlefield. Otherwise, it goes to the hand.
I really want to feature my Windgrace deck on the channel!
Animar decklist?
How did spellskite get around the hand discard?
Spellskite changed the target from Jin-Gitaxias to spellskite. So Max never had a jin Gitaxias, he has a copy of Spellskite.
Futhermore after a big stack confusion even if he did reactivated the mirror to target the Jin, it ultimately goes to spellskite because it was the first target.
Animar doing what Animar does. That's just the way that it is.
I need the decklist from Animar, please 🥺
We need Animar deck list!
As always, either you play archenemy and kill animar every single time its cast or you lose.
Great intro
I swear you guys talk to my wife behind my back or something, every single time your gameplay has a commander I'm interested in, it's not listed. I'm not a net decker, but I love seeing other people's takes on my favorite commanders. Gives me additional ideas, maybe they've seen something I missed. If you guys manage to start actually listing the decklists instead of just "Coming Soon" or making a slot in the description just to leave it blank, I'll join and throw 50 dollars at Patreon...so frustrating. If you want to give insight into your meta, give insight into your meta.
spore frog...would ez won the game for max XD
So would've Walking Ballista, as Max already had Mikaeus in hand and a sac outlet on the field.
Spore frog would be good against Animar and the voltron, but would do nothing against Galazeth
Meren decklist pls
Animar was brutal here , but I loved seeing all the Eldrazi run over the board .
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I don't like the combos because a player wins out of nowhere who isn't a threat at the moment. While the other players are laboriously building up a board and trying to win.
Confused on protection and trample never played all the damage prevented does the player has protection from white too lol.
Blightbeetle laughs at animar
Game Over
User Wins
Animar???
Animar is brutal
First? Woah
The fact that these players didn't immediately team up on Adam demonstrates a level of badness that has me thoroughly disinterested in ever watching another video here again.
IF YOUR IN THE MUILTY ZONE STORE MAKE SURE THEY GOT MY PRODUCT'S SHIPPED
Animar is so corny. The protection is just unnecessary
infinite decks are so boring. would have loved to see the other decks pop off but alas
Booo animar
What a lame deck and ending. Seeing a win by such a cheap infinite is just.. yeah. Lame.
Animar decks are so boring. “ME CAST CREATURE.ME PLAY BIGLY DUDES. ME UNGA BUNGA” so many more interesting temur commanders