@@initialize21 very humble from you and its true federer is more skilled , djoker more durable physicly and mentally more clutch so very very difficult comparaison in my opinion its like flipping a coin the 2 goats vs each other at every surface except grass where federer would be favorite
@@angerisdiscipline3913 Federer in his prime was extremely clutch. It was only when Djokovic began getting a mental edge over Federer did Federer start losing close matches which was well past his prime. Prime fed is not the same as Old fed mentally. Like 2018 Djokovic choking matches is not the same as 2022 Djokovic being a mental beast.
@@user-oe4wr9tn2n oh come on dont tell me this , are you blind ? Well in his prime he couldnt choke to roddick because he beat his ass every time in straight sets but still many mental collapses come to mind for prime FedEx vs safin 2005 ao , vs nalby TMC 05, vs and especially that mental barrier vs Nadal strating from Rome 2006 to wimbledon 08 ,to the tears of Ao 2009 , Delpotro 2009 no comparaison what so ever
Every single time I See Prime Roger/Novak/Rafa, it's just SCARY! Like, how good are those 3. How out of this world and next level?! I'm watching these old highlights, and I catch myself noticing how far Novak has come and I can tell it was because of matches like this one and other brutal battles vs Rafa. I know that the 3 fan groups keep trash talking each other, but take a moment to simply appreciate how INSANELY AMAZING the Big 3 are and how they helped each other reach the next level!
when the knob turns beyond 10 to 11 and you thought it was impressive.. then the GOATs clash and turn it up to 12, 13, 14.. absolute madness gone are those days though.. I think djokovic is feeling a little lonely on tour now
When he played his best tennis he was untouchable. His range of shots were unequalled. We are lucky to have witnessed not just a genius at work but a modest and thoroughly likeable bloke. Thank you Roger 👌👌
And remember peak Murray could even dethrone peak Djokovick quite often including becoming the #1 player in the world by beating Djokovick handily. Murray was a beast at time (and i believe even has a winning record against Federer)
The most gifted tennis player ever, bar none. The Caravaggio of sport compared to the paint by numbers backboard baseliners with no imagination. Pure genius.
Oh snap! That short half-volley FH at 3:12 vs. Djokovic is the shizz! Roger on the 2 remaining fast courts in Cinci and Dubai after they slowed down all the other courts in 2008 was always a thing a beauty. I still maintain that the slowing of all the courts (including the grass at Wimbledon) was what the great equalizer for Djokovic. Murray and Nadal. Well, that and age, because nobody can remain at the very top of their game forever unless the competition is just plain mediocre like it is right now.
Only peak Sampras can match and no one else. Djokovic probably deserves an honourable mention though. But aside from peak Sampras nobody can truly match and I say this as a humble human. However peak Sampras would push peak Federer to his absolute limits for sure. Watch Sampras matches in the early and late ninetees and you will get to know why.
Federer fans before 2020: Roger has the most Slams, that's most important, that's why he is the goat Federer fans after 2020: Slams don't matter 😂 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The last time Fed won Djokovic in a Slam was 2012 Semifinal🤣🤣🤣 He has never won against Novak at a Wimbledon final He has not beaten Novak at a Major final in 15 years He has a losing record to Novak in finals 6-14 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Novak - Roger's stats Novak leads 19-1 Novak leads 19-1 Head-to-head tallies All matches (50): Djokovic, 27-23 All finals (20): Djokovic, 13-6 (one walkover not included) Grand Slam matches: Djokovic, 11-6 Grand Slam finals: Djokovic, 4-1 ATP Tour Finals matches: Tied, 3-3 ATP Tour Finals finals: Djokovic, 2-0 (one walkover not included) ATP Masters matches: Djokovic, 11-9 ATP Masters finals: Djokovic, 5-3 Other matches: Federer, 5-2 Other finals: Tied, 2-2 Best of five-set matches: Djokovic, 11-7 Matches lasting five sets: Djokovic, 4-0 Best of three set matches: Tied, 16-16 Matches lasting three sets: Djokovic, 10-5 Winning the match after losing 1st set: Djokovic, 7-1 Winning the match-saving match points: Djokovic, 3-0 All sets: Tied, 73-73 Deciding sets: Djokovic, 14-5 Tiebreak sets: Djokovic, 16-12 Deciding Tiebreaks: Djokovic, 4-0 Results on each court surface[edit] Hard courts: Djokovic, 20-18 Outdoor: Djokovic, 14-13 Indoor: Djokovic, 6-5 Grass courts: Djokovic, 3-1 Clay courts: Tied, 4-4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- McEnroe's brilliant response to Fedtards m.th-cam.com/video/xoNPkG4UQaY/w-d-xo.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
@@syedwaqarahmed5963 People come and go,...but history books are forever. So in a few years, no one will give a sht about Federer same as no one gave a sht about Sampras after Federer. Federer is far behind Djokovic now and not only in Slams, So yeah,..whatever can make you calm and dormant you can lie to peace yourself,..
The most elegant racquet ever used. Loved this cosmetic. Loved the way Federer used to play with this. When he moved up to the 97 it lost some of the mystique. It had to be done. What a display of sublime brutality.
@@blainekennedy Wilson K-Factor 90. I still use it to keep my strokes fundamentally honest. When I need a boost of power I move up to the K-Factor 95 (Del Potro's version)
Roger in total god mode here. 2009 was the last genuinely dominant year for him in the slams with maybe 2017 a contender. Someone hit the nail on the head below when they said that the slowing down of the courts from 2008 onwards was one of the key reasons why Novak and Nadal started beating Roger on a regular basis and hence why he lost his invisibility. But Fed in this form is the highest level of tennis that's ever been played imo. God I miss watching Roger play. He was a total one off.
Nadal was already beating Federer right from 2005 but yeah Federer lost his edge against the field after 2010 when courts slowed down and offensive tennis became a lot less rewarding. Nadal was just a horrible matchup for Federer before 2015.
Fed in 2009 Cincinnati is so underrated because people always mention his performance at the 2015 Cincinnati, but in terms of level this one was right up there.
@@apathak34 aside from the year end tournament, where the court is still fast. that's why nadal has never won it and unless the field gets decimated by injuries, he never will. federer always had his number even when nadal beat him throughout the year and it was never a close battle. head to head is quite respectable now, clay is always in nadal's favour, but since 2017 nadal barely won a set outside clay and was blown away most of the time. also, fed is the only player to bagel nadal 3 times. it's a pity for fed how 2009 uso turned out. he was by far the best player for a full year and deserved the calendar slam. delpo snatched that uso (and good for him), and nadal snatched the auso, but federer's level was absurd. only his self doubt cost him those 2 slams.
I love watching Fed’s strategy on court. He sets up his opponent so well and sometimes they don’t see it coming. He knew Murray was going cross court with that forehand and he just lit it up.
This tournament was a masterclass, thanks for the upload! Another match that gets little attention while to me it is one of Roger TOP performances is his match against Del Potro at AO 2009. Absolutely nuts.
Yep. Federer is my tennis god with Nadal as his awesome cousin. Looking through this video is so nostalgic. Thanks so much for putting it together. As an aussie my best are: Evonne, Arthur, Ash Barty, Sam Stosur, Pat Rafter, Thanasi, Leyton, Ayla, Alex, Johnny Millman, thank all of you for your efforts and i cant wait to see some new blood coming in. Love ;)
I'm not sure he is human at his peak. Certainly a level up from the just get it back over the net gang with agressive pinpoint shotmaking across the different strokes that embarrased top players. Off the court someone who respected the game and was a family man staying calm and professional throughout his career - phenomenal.
Federer's peak was the highest level of tennis ever. The problem after 2010 was to maintain that level over 5 sets. It became more and more difficult to play that offensive brand of tennis.
From the day Roger changed his racket, his game has also changed completely. You can see that from how loosely he still holds the racket here - that was something completely different from 2011. And let's be honest, from 2011 he reached exactly 3 grand slam and 17 before he changed his racket. So if that's not an indication, then I don't know! In his prime, he was certainly the best player who ever had a tennis racket in his hand, but you have to be honest, this magical thing he had had disappeared from 2011
Brother ... your whole hypothesis is inaccurate ... Federer changed his Racket to -97-98' frame from 2014 season after trying the same on clay in Gstaad in 2013 .... he won 4 grand slams after 2011 and reached 08 grand slam finals unlike you mentioned that he reached 03 GS ... Yes after changing racket his fluid whip motion on forehand and the sweet spot of forehand went down leading up to slowing the forehand side but that was a trade off with bringing more balls into play and driving the backhand instead of chipping it Get your facts right
So hard to compare the Big Three and say who is greatest. The 5 year age difference between Roger and Rafa, and the 7 year age difference from Roger to Novak def had an affect an the outcomes of some of their matches once Roger got into his 30's and Rafa and Novak were still in their 20's. But unfair to Rafa and Novak to say the outcome would have been different with a smaller age gap...no one knows.. To me Roger is the standard...he showed Rafa and Novak what if would take to be a GOAT; the dedication, training, support team, logistics, scheduling and being a fierce competitor...Roger is the map to all that. Rafa became the protagonist and Novak the antagonist. Together they ve made the greatest era of tennis that will ever be.
I think all three when they are in top Form are insane. In different ways. Feds ability to hit any shot and the aggression that comes with it. Nadal just hits shots from everywhere and doesn’t miss attacking shots. Nole just becomes a wall that fires cannons back.
Federer fans before 2020: Roger has the most Slams, that's most important, that's why he is the goat Federer fans after 2020: Slams don't matter 😂 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The last time Fed won Djokovic in a Slam was 2012 Semifinal🤣🤣🤣 He has never won against Novak at a Wimbledon final He has not beaten Novak at a Major final in 15 years He has a losing record to Novak in finals 6-14 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Novak - Roger's stats Novak leads 19-1 Novak leads 19-1 Head-to-head tallies All matches (50): Djokovic, 27-23 All finals (20): Djokovic, 13-6 (one walkover not included) Grand Slam matches: Djokovic, 11-6 Grand Slam finals: Djokovic, 4-1 ATP Tour Finals matches: Tied, 3-3 ATP Tour Finals finals: Djokovic, 2-0 (one walkover not included) ATP Masters matches: Djokovic, 11-9 ATP Masters finals: Djokovic, 5-3 Other matches: Federer, 5-2 Other finals: Tied, 2-2 Best of five-set matches: Djokovic, 11-7 Matches lasting five sets: Djokovic, 4-0 Best of three set matches: Tied, 16-16 Matches lasting three sets: Djokovic, 10-5 Winning the match after losing 1st set: Djokovic, 7-1 Winning the match-saving match points: Djokovic, 3-0 All sets: Tied, 73-73 Deciding sets: Djokovic, 14-5 Tiebreak sets: Djokovic, 16-12 Deciding Tiebreaks: Djokovic, 4-0 Results on each court surface[edit] Hard courts: Djokovic, 20-18 Outdoor: Djokovic, 14-13 Indoor: Djokovic, 6-5 Grass courts: Djokovic, 3-1 Clay courts: Tied, 4-4 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- McEnroe's brilliant response to Fedtards m.th-cam.com/video/xoNPkG4UQaY/w-d-xo.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bagel or not no one cares about it lmao, a bagel doesn't mean you win the match, even Murray did bagel Nadal and then what ? Does that make him a better player ? It's not a criteria at all in anything but np
Novak is the better player but no one comes even close to Roger's elegance and grace. Watching him play when he's on feels like you're watching tennis the way it was intended to be played. Not sure if there's ever been a more aesthetically pleasing player in any sport. So glad I got to watch his prime.
Man it’s crazy to see how refined Djokovic has become now. He seems like he’s making those extra unnecessary movements that were probably wasting more energy than necessary. I’m not a Djokovic fan but I can absolutely respect the dedication to refine your craft.
It seems likely that Novak will wind up with the most slam titles at this point, and IMHO seems like the most complete player tennis has seen. Roger strikes me as the most elegant player; there was an effortless quality to his peak-level execution. The toughest fighter was and is Rafa. As a notorious gunslinger once said, "They forgot to put the quit in this villain." Of course ultimately, the winner has been us the fans. Thanks guys, it has been a privilege watching your play over the years:) (My fav match was '09 Wim Fed - Rod. I've never pulled harder for a guy to win; Andy played a hell of a match against Roger!)
I disagree. If anyone is a complete player - it's Roger Federer. Novak is great, no doubt, but he's a baseline hitter and a defensive player. Roger is more skilled than Novak. The numbers won't change that.
"Roger strikes me as the most elegant player; there was an effortless quality to his peak-level execution. The toughest fighter was and is Rafa. As a notorious gunslinger once said, "They forgot to put the quit in this villain." Of course ultimately, the winner has been us the fans." 100% agree with this part!
@@antoniomarine1567 Well said. I'm not the biggest fan of Djokovic but I do think he will be the most complete player. You can make a case for GOAT for any of these three players - GOAT will never equal most championships for me. Tennis was the most fun to watch with Federer and Nadal imo.. Alcaraz now climbing into the conversation, if he can get his leg cramps under control
@@alexandergoldman I don't think Novak is the most "complete" player - because there are facets of Roger's game that are superior to Novak's. I will say Novak will go down as the WINNINGEST player in history. And I agree with you - you could make the argument for all the big three. Aren't we luck to have lived in these times! Also agree - Roger vs. Rafa is as good as it gets. Though I did get a glimmer of hope the first time I saw Alcaraz play Sinner! Alcaraz has the fight of Nadal with the hands of Roger - he's going to be fun to watch!
What separates this version of Roger to the one later in his career is his agility. He's such an unbelievable shot maker and when he could sprint around and rip inside out fhs regularly and play elite defense it was unfair to the rest of the tour.
I remember how devastatingly confident Federer was after his Wimbledon 2009 title surpassing Sampras' 14 majors. In the Montreal masters 1000 right after Wimbledon, he was a bit shaky getting used to the shift from grass to hard court, but here in Cincinnati, just a week after his loss to Tsonga in Montreal, he was a monster. He had been always struggling with his form against Murray at non-slam events ever since the start of 2008, but he showed he could beat anyone if and when he's at his absolute best with unshakable confidence.
The mental aspect is huge. Unlike Djokovic, Federer has much more mood swings in his confidence. At his most stable, he'll make the most insane shots and not throw away multiple match points to Djokovic.
Murray among the fab 5 is the most dangerous among them.His confidence is the only chink of his armour.He is likely to abandon his game when he sees that the fellow memver of fab 5 is on to their game.His fitnees is never in question throughout his career but his just not that confident when his facing opponents with a superb game.That s wgy many occassions his losing to them regularly
G-d mode is RIGHT! I wish we had gotten to the point where he faced a doubles team where he can use the doubles lines and they can't. I think he would've beaten the two of them. ESPECIALLY when he played like THIS!
Federer's biggest problem during his entire career was Novak. Federer was extremely difficult to play against Novak as their results show. I'm Serbian but I love Federer and that's why Federer is the man in the first place, unlike Nadal, who is jealous and who broke every bone in his body just to win more titles Than Novak. In terms of style and play and Federer plays the most beautiful tennis
Pete Sampras, Jim Courier and Andre Agassi ALL held the #1 ranking during Roger's reign. Also, Djokovich, Murray and Raphael Nadal all held the #1 spot towards the back end of Federer's ultimate reign. How long was Serena's #1 ranking How about Tiger, clearly dominant, without glitches...until the day... She found out!
Federer forgets his signarure shot is the forehand.When he developed his backhand it was favorable for any opponent he faced in any stage of the tournament.That is why Novak cannot beat Roger when he was still utilizing his forehand.Many opponents can attest to that.When the press requested a change on his game he quickly obliged to that request.That is how sporty Fed is He never wants to dominate his opponents on the first place he also wants them to up their game.If any player on the Fab 5 will have the same opportunity as Fed had I think they rather stick to their bread and butter so as not to let their opponents have a winning opportunity like Fed did.That is by far the best compliment you can give to any opponent to see Him Imprive and beat you in any occassion.Cause beating them on the regular basis will not make the match interesting cause its just like watching a movie you already watched even if its a good one once you know the ending its not so interesting to watch.This is why Novaks game cannot come close to Rogers cause he rely on opponents weakness rather utilize his game to make an advantage.A blitz game or hasty one will always favor the player who utilize it rather than using a counter play always it defeats the players Individual excellence.An dalways greatly affects the opponwnt in front of you.
Nole should hire some guy with better pro experiences and/or proven records to begin his pro career. In other words, he was not pushed enough and/or taught enough in his early years, like before 2010. Otherwise there is no such debate for GOAT
there's no need to work tennis when you know how to play it like Rogi does... !!! { ... schad numä , dass äs nümmä machsch , Rogi , ds tennis spilä ... }
This isnt that close. You cannot argue without stats, and stats prove that Djokovic is #1. It doesnt matter if you go slams, h2h, total titles, it doesn’t matter. In fact, argument can be made that Fed is #3. And sampras is not far behind! Sorry!
It always seems like that when Roger is in full flow. 'Cause full flow Roger won't require from you to make sprint along the baseline. That's one of the reasons why Nole-Rafa rivalry feels like so intense. It doesn't take anything away from Nole-Roger rivalry. As a tennis fan, I thoroughly enjoyed Nole-Fed matches even more so than Rafa-Fed matches. It's like fire and ice.
I believe Federer came in to the sport when the old legends were just leaving. Sampras Agassi rafter rios Davydenko ect, meanwhile he dominated for a good 4-5 years while novak nadal murray were maturing in their game. When they did it got very difficult after for Fed.
Eh, quando Federer era al top non ce n'era nemmeno per Nole, il quale ha iniziato ad essere superiore a Roger dal 2015 in poi, anche credo proprio per ragioni anagrafiche......
Roger had a very spoiled up bringing and armchair tennis players oogling over the marketing job.. it reflected in his play agaisnt Nadal/djoki he only won 33% of their GS matches over his career and was only 4 of 14 in GS finals agaisnt them. Fedsqaush game was very weak mentally along with his weak backhand where he lossed to djoki 3 times in a row at Wimbledon finals on his supposed best surface and with the crowds on his side too...Couldn't even beat Nadal once at French..Fed's game never evolved same old sqaush style that he got the goldilocks era 2003-2009 where he won 15 slams in a very Low level Era.. The only true ambassador and statesman to the game of tennis is Djoki who post match speeches are very articulated as with Fedsqaush it is very empty/simple as he bumbles through but he did Sell lots of running shoes and watches
Djokovic PEAK 2011 and 2015 is the absolute THE BEST in the history of tennis. This version beats Federer 6x-7x on grass..... 8x out of 10 on hard. Federer 2006 was not able to deal with non peaked Nadal... Pathetic. Federer was still peaked in 2011... 2012 .... 2013.... Peak Djokovic would expose every version of Federer's BH. Specially not mentally stable Federer from his so called peak times. If Federer's prime and peak was so short .... Then Federer is pathetic. But we all know that Federer's peak is much longer .... Its just Djokovic made him look average. If Djokovic would start his free glutein diet earlier than in 2011.... Djokovic would have now already 28 GS minimum. GOATkovic. :))
Prime Roger is just insane. No one will stand a chance.
@@theokim2280 nah even prime Djokovic has no chance
@@theokim2280 nope, prime Fed is better than prime Djokovic, and I say this as a Serbian. Peak Fed has skills that peak Djokovic simply doesn’t have.
@@initialize21 very humble from you and its true federer is more skilled , djoker more durable physicly and mentally more clutch so very very difficult comparaison in my opinion its like flipping a coin the 2 goats vs each other at every surface except grass where federer would be favorite
@@angerisdiscipline3913 Federer in his prime was extremely clutch. It was only when Djokovic began getting a mental edge over Federer did Federer start losing close matches which was well past his prime. Prime fed is not the same as Old fed mentally. Like 2018 Djokovic choking matches is not the same as 2022 Djokovic being a mental beast.
@@user-oe4wr9tn2n oh come on dont tell me this , are you blind ? Well in his prime he couldnt choke to roddick because he beat his ass every time in straight sets but still many mental collapses come to mind for prime FedEx vs safin 2005 ao , vs nalby TMC 05, vs and especially that mental barrier vs Nadal strating from Rome 2006 to wimbledon 08 ,to the tears of Ao 2009 , Delpotro 2009 no comparaison what so ever
His dancing movement and forehand in his peak were something else.
His touch has always been out of this world.
Miss these years it always felt right when he was a top of the rankings.
Agreed. Tennis doesn’t feel the same without seeing his name in the top 10
Roger Federer at his peak is unbeatable, creativity and intelligence are displayed, he remains inspiring
Every single time I See Prime Roger/Novak/Rafa, it's just SCARY! Like, how good are those 3. How out of this world and next level?! I'm watching these old highlights, and I catch myself noticing how far Novak has come and I can tell it was because of matches like this one and other brutal battles vs Rafa. I know that the 3 fan groups keep trash talking each other, but take a moment to simply appreciate how INSANELY AMAZING the Big 3 are and how they helped each other reach the next level!
when the knob turns beyond 10 to 11 and you thought it was impressive.. then the GOATs clash and turn it up to 12, 13, 14.. absolute madness
gone are those days though.. I think djokovic is feeling a little lonely on tour now
Scariest forms I saw of the big 3, Novak AO 2016, Nadal RG 2008, Federer 2004-2007 ( unmatched)
When he played his best tennis he was untouchable. His range of shots were unequalled. We are lucky to have witnessed not just a genius at work but a modest and thoroughly likeable bloke. Thank you Roger 👌👌
Murray had won Montreal the week before and was confident. Federer made him seem like a R1 match, swatting him aside.
And remember peak Murray could even dethrone peak Djokovick quite often including becoming the #1 player in the world by beating Djokovick handily. Murray was a beast at time (and i believe even has a winning record against Federer)
The most gifted tennis player ever, bar none. The Caravaggio of sport compared to the paint by numbers backboard baseliners with no imagination. Pure genius.
His foot work and upper body dynamics just flows like a calm stream. So beautiful to watch.
Oh snap! That short half-volley FH at 3:12 vs. Djokovic is the shizz! Roger on the 2 remaining fast courts in Cinci and Dubai after they slowed down all the other courts in 2008 was always a thing a beauty. I still maintain that the slowing of all the courts (including the grass at Wimbledon) was what the great equalizer for Djokovic. Murray and Nadal. Well, that and age, because nobody can remain at the very top of their game forever unless the competition is just plain mediocre like it is right now.
You make a good and often-overlooked point
Exactly, I've always said that lol
think he was untouchable at london masters too though that court was slow like u said.
@@jagbot London is also low-bouncing
@@TheBaconator1347 nadal gets clueless on low-bouncing surfraces. no wonder only statistically the greatest ;)
Peak Fed has the highest peak easily out of the Big 3. He’s the GOAT and I say this as a Serbian!!
Only peak Sampras can match and no one else. Djokovic probably deserves an honourable mention though. But aside from peak Sampras nobody can truly match and I say this as a humble human. However peak Sampras would push peak Federer to his absolute limits for sure. Watch Sampras matches in the early and late ninetees and you will get to know why.
@@syedwaqarahmed5963 A compelling argument.
@@syedwaqarahmed5963 On clay?
Federer fans before 2020: Roger has the most Slams, that's most important, that's why he is the goat
Federer fans after 2020: Slams don't matter 😂
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The last time Fed won Djokovic in a Slam was 2012 Semifinal🤣🤣🤣
He has never won against Novak at a Wimbledon final
He has not beaten Novak at a Major final in 15 years
He has a losing record to Novak in finals 6-14
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Novak - Roger's stats
Novak leads 19-1
Novak leads 19-1
Head-to-head tallies
All matches (50): Djokovic, 27-23
All finals (20): Djokovic, 13-6 (one walkover not included)
Grand Slam matches: Djokovic, 11-6
Grand Slam finals: Djokovic, 4-1
ATP Tour Finals matches: Tied, 3-3
ATP Tour Finals finals: Djokovic, 2-0 (one walkover not included)
ATP Masters matches: Djokovic, 11-9
ATP Masters finals: Djokovic, 5-3
Other matches: Federer, 5-2
Other finals: Tied, 2-2
Best of five-set matches: Djokovic, 11-7
Matches lasting five sets: Djokovic, 4-0
Best of three set matches: Tied, 16-16
Matches lasting three sets: Djokovic, 10-5
Winning the match after losing 1st set: Djokovic, 7-1
Winning the match-saving match points: Djokovic, 3-0
All sets: Tied, 73-73
Deciding sets: Djokovic, 14-5
Tiebreak sets: Djokovic, 16-12
Deciding Tiebreaks: Djokovic, 4-0
Results on each court surface[edit]
Hard courts: Djokovic, 20-18
Outdoor: Djokovic, 14-13
Indoor: Djokovic, 6-5
Grass courts: Djokovic, 3-1
Clay courts: Tied, 4-4
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@@syedwaqarahmed5963 People come and go,...but history books are forever. So in a few years, no one will give a sht about Federer same as no one gave a sht about Sampras after Federer. Federer is far behind Djokovic now and not only in Slams, So yeah,..whatever can make you calm and dormant you can lie to peace yourself,..
His footwork was like a ballerina but his games were savage
The most elegant racquet ever used. Loved this cosmetic. Loved the way Federer used to play with this. When he moved up to the 97 it lost some of the mystique. It had to be done. What a display of sublime brutality.
What racquet did he use back then?
@@blainekennedy Wilson K-Factor 90. I still use it to keep my strokes fundamentally honest. When I need a boost of power I move up to the K-Factor 95 (Del Potro's version)
@@TheWinezen I wonder about fundamentally dishonest strokes, what they may be, lol.
@@ikarugaxx3749 Old smaller head size rackets are excellent with touch and feel so they help you be consistent with your technique .
@janparchanski9242But during his prime years he still used to make less UE despite playing with smaller racquet frame
Roger in total god mode here. 2009 was the last genuinely dominant year for him in the slams with maybe 2017 a contender.
Someone hit the nail on the head below when they said that the slowing down of the courts from 2008 onwards was one of the key reasons why Novak and Nadal started beating Roger on a regular basis and hence why he lost his invisibility.
But Fed in this form is the highest level of tennis that's ever been played imo.
God I miss watching Roger play. He was a total one off.
Nadal was already beating Federer right from 2005 but yeah Federer lost his edge against the field after 2010 when courts slowed down and offensive tennis became a lot less rewarding. Nadal was just a horrible matchup for Federer before 2015.
Fed in 2009 Cincinnati is so underrated because people always mention his performance at the 2015 Cincinnati, but in terms of level this one was right up there.
@@apathak34on clay
@@paul5324 Nadal was beating him on hard court as well.
Check out their head to head.
@@apathak34 aside from the year end tournament, where the court is still fast. that's why nadal has never won it and unless the field gets decimated by injuries, he never will. federer always had his number even when nadal beat him throughout the year and it was never a close battle.
head to head is quite respectable now, clay is always in nadal's favour, but since 2017 nadal barely won a set outside clay and was blown away most of the time. also, fed is the only player to bagel nadal 3 times.
it's a pity for fed how 2009 uso turned out. he was by far the best player for a full year and deserved the calendar slam. delpo snatched that uso (and good for him), and nadal snatched the auso, but federer's level was absurd. only his self doubt cost him those 2 slams.
Had they not slow down the courts, Roger would have the most for sure.
he was almost toying with the others
Almost? Lol
Federer is the absolute No.1 tennis player of all time.
Less grand slams and losing h2h vs Nadal and Djokovic. How is he the goat...
@@fad2679 If you need to ask you are not a true tennis fan. Roger is a genius and a delight to the eye.
@@annewalden3795true tennis fans don’t judge by the eye 😂
@@NamTran-xc2ip I disagree.
god mode content
Those old cindy courts were lightning quick
I love watching Fed’s strategy on court. He sets up his opponent so well and sometimes they don’t see it coming. He knew Murray was going cross court with that forehand and he just lit it up.
He could just generate so much easy power of both wings in his prime.
And then add the level of class and finesse he had… pure art
When he played at his best ("god mode", if you like) he could pull a winner out of nowhere. Truly awesome.
This tournament was a masterclass, thanks for the upload! Another match that gets little attention while to me it is one of Roger TOP performances is his match against Del Potro at AO 2009. Absolutely nuts.
Yep. Federer is my tennis god with Nadal as his awesome cousin.
Looking through this video is so nostalgic. Thanks so much for putting it together.
As an aussie my best are: Evonne, Arthur, Ash Barty, Sam Stosur, Pat Rafter, Thanasi, Leyton, Ayla, Alex, Johnny Millman, thank all of you for your efforts and i cant wait to see some new blood coming in. Love ;)
"The Rocket"?
I'm not sure he is human at his peak. Certainly a level up from the just get it back over the net gang with agressive pinpoint shotmaking across the different strokes that embarrased top players. Off the court someone who respected the game and was a family man staying calm and professional throughout his career - phenomenal.
Federer's peak was the highest level of tennis ever. The problem after 2010 was to maintain that level over 5 sets. It became more and more difficult to play that offensive brand of tennis.
My god. Nobody could touch him. Even Murray gave up at the end.
2:07 is one of the ultimate embarrassments if you are a professional tennis player.
The faster the courts, the betterer the Federer
1:40 - When Federer was in his prime, even the mishits were in. ;)
From the day Roger changed his racket, his game has also changed completely. You can see that from how loosely he still holds the racket here - that was something completely different from 2011. And let's be honest, from 2011 he reached exactly 3 grand slam and 17 before he changed his racket. So if that's not an indication, then I don't know!
In his prime, he was certainly the best player who ever had a tennis racket in his hand, but you have to be honest, this magical thing he had had disappeared from 2011
Brother ... your whole hypothesis is inaccurate ... Federer changed his Racket to -97-98' frame from 2014 season after trying the same on clay in Gstaad in 2013 ....
he won 4 grand slams after 2011 and reached 08 grand slam finals unlike you mentioned that he reached 03 GS ...
Yes after changing racket his fluid whip motion on forehand and the sweet spot of forehand went down leading up to slowing the forehand side but that was a trade off with bringing more balls into play and driving the backhand instead of chipping it
Get your facts right
Cincinatti 2015 was something else
Neh he was much better in 09
So hard to compare the Big Three and say who is greatest. The 5 year age difference between Roger and Rafa, and the 7 year age difference from Roger to Novak def had an affect an the outcomes of some of their matches once Roger got into his 30's and Rafa and Novak were still in their 20's. But unfair to Rafa and Novak to say the outcome would have been different with a smaller age gap...no one knows.. To me Roger is the standard...he showed Rafa and Novak what if would take to be a GOAT; the dedication, training, support team, logistics, scheduling and being a fierce competitor...Roger is the map to all that. Rafa became the protagonist and Novak the antagonist. Together they ve made the greatest era of tennis that will ever be.
Roger is the leader, the others are just followers. and one of them is basking in the sunshine of weakest era ever, piling up on the statistics
Federer almost bagelled a peak Novak on hardcourt lol. When Federer is in the zone he is a freak
cincinnati 2015 was also something else
and the scary thing is 2015 wasn’t even prime federer
Cant care about who's a goat. Federer was best of his generation!
Master dancing in his fort. Such Eye-pleasing...
I think all three when they are in top
Form are insane. In different ways.
Feds ability to hit any shot and the aggression that comes with it.
Nadal just hits shots from everywhere and doesn’t miss attacking shots.
Nole just becomes a wall that fires cannons back.
Peak Federer with full confidence and speed was just a different beast! Just awesome!!!
Federer at his god best hahaha
Every shorter ball into his forhand is an automatic winner... Wow 😎🍾
I love how every opponent is there like: "well this is fucking stupid"
To those who think Novak is better. Remember a 31 year old Federer Bagelled Novak in 2012 Cincinnati final.
Federer fans before 2020: Roger has the most Slams, that's most important, that's why he is the goat
Federer fans after 2020: Slams don't matter 😂
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The last time Fed won Djokovic in a Slam was 2012 Semifinal🤣🤣🤣
He has never won against Novak at a Wimbledon final
He has not beaten Novak at a Major final in 15 years
He has a losing record to Novak in finals 6-14
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Novak - Roger's stats
Novak leads 19-1
Novak leads 19-1
Head-to-head tallies
All matches (50): Djokovic, 27-23
All finals (20): Djokovic, 13-6 (one walkover not included)
Grand Slam matches: Djokovic, 11-6
Grand Slam finals: Djokovic, 4-1
ATP Tour Finals matches: Tied, 3-3
ATP Tour Finals finals: Djokovic, 2-0 (one walkover not included)
ATP Masters matches: Djokovic, 11-9
ATP Masters finals: Djokovic, 5-3
Other matches: Federer, 5-2
Other finals: Tied, 2-2
Best of five-set matches: Djokovic, 11-7
Matches lasting five sets: Djokovic, 4-0
Best of three set matches: Tied, 16-16
Matches lasting three sets: Djokovic, 10-5
Winning the match after losing 1st set: Djokovic, 7-1
Winning the match-saving match points: Djokovic, 3-0
All sets: Tied, 73-73
Deciding sets: Djokovic, 14-5
Tiebreak sets: Djokovic, 16-12
Deciding Tiebreaks: Djokovic, 4-0
Results on each court surface[edit]
Hard courts: Djokovic, 20-18
Outdoor: Djokovic, 14-13
Indoor: Djokovic, 6-5
Grass courts: Djokovic, 3-1
Clay courts: Tied, 4-4
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McEnroe's brilliant response to Fedtards
m.th-cam.com/video/xoNPkG4UQaY/w-d-xo.html
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wow, extraordinarily hard coping
Bagel or not no one cares about it lmao, a bagel doesn't mean you win the match, even Murray did bagel Nadal and then what ? Does that make him a better player ? It's not a criteria at all in anything but np
I do! 😁 That was sweet!!!
This Federer would have annihilated the tour today (aug 2023)
You can only say what everyone else is saying, total god mode, and didn't he look like he was loving the last few points, a killer look in his eyes.
3:40 Back when Federer had long curly hair. Between those curls, you could see the Nike swoosh
Did Murray just smack a ball with his hand at 3:00 ?
Yeah lol I was looking for this comment
Novak is the better player but no one comes even close to Roger's elegance and grace. Watching him play when he's on feels like you're watching tennis the way it was intended to be played. Not sure if there's ever been a more aesthetically pleasing player in any sport. So glad I got to watch his prime.
Thank you Roger 🙏🏻🏆
Man it’s crazy to see how refined Djokovic has become now. He seems like he’s making those extra unnecessary movements that were probably wasting more energy than necessary. I’m not a Djokovic fan but I can absolutely respect the dedication to refine your craft.
It seems likely that Novak will wind up with the most slam titles at this point, and IMHO seems like the most complete player tennis has seen. Roger strikes me as the most elegant player; there was an effortless quality to his peak-level execution. The toughest fighter was and is Rafa. As a notorious gunslinger once said, "They forgot to put the quit in this villain." Of course ultimately, the winner has been us the fans. Thanks guys, it has been a privilege watching your play over the years:) (My fav match was '09 Wim Fed - Rod. I've never pulled harder for a guy to win; Andy played a hell of a match against Roger!)
I disagree. If anyone is a complete player - it's Roger Federer. Novak is great, no doubt, but he's a baseline hitter and a defensive player. Roger is more skilled than Novak. The numbers won't change that.
"Roger strikes me as the most elegant player; there was an effortless quality to his peak-level execution. The toughest fighter was and is Rafa. As a notorious gunslinger once said, "They forgot to put the quit in this villain." Of course ultimately, the winner has been us the fans." 100% agree with this part!
@@antoniomarine1567 Well said. I'm not the biggest fan of Djokovic but I do think he will be the most complete player. You can make a case for GOAT for any of these three players - GOAT will never equal most championships for me. Tennis was the most fun to watch with Federer and Nadal imo.. Alcaraz now climbing into the conversation, if he can get his leg cramps under control
@@alexandergoldman I don't think Novak is the most "complete" player - because there are facets of Roger's game that are superior to Novak's. I will say Novak will go down as the WINNINGEST player in history. And I agree with you - you could make the argument for all the big three. Aren't we luck to have lived in these times! Also agree - Roger vs. Rafa is as good as it gets. Though I did get a glimmer of hope the first time I saw Alcaraz play Sinner! Alcaraz has the fight of Nadal with the hands of Roger - he's going to be fun to watch!
No sure how anyone can seriously consider Novak a more complete player than Roger. It absolutely makes no sense if you have eyes.
Roger's tennis at his best is more than tennis. It's plain art.
Federer, simply the best!
What separates this version of Roger to the one later in his career is his agility. He's such an unbelievable shot maker and when he could sprint around and rip inside out fhs regularly and play elite defense it was unfair to the rest of the tour.
I remember how devastatingly confident Federer was after his Wimbledon 2009 title surpassing Sampras' 14 majors. In the Montreal masters 1000 right after Wimbledon, he was a bit shaky getting used to the shift from grass to hard court, but here in Cincinnati, just a week after his loss to Tsonga in Montreal, he was a monster. He had been always struggling with his form against Murray at non-slam events ever since the start of 2008, but he showed he could beat anyone if and when he's at his absolute best with unshakable confidence.
The mental aspect is huge. Unlike Djokovic, Federer has much more mood swings in his confidence. At his most stable, he'll make the most insane shots and not throw away multiple match points to Djokovic.
@@anonymousl5150 ikr Federer on hard & grass + nadal on clay when in prime with djomovic's mentality is what we call goat built
Murray among the fab 5 is the most dangerous among them.His confidence is the only chink of his armour.He is likely to abandon his game when he sees that the fellow memver of fab 5 is on to their game.His fitnees is never in question throughout his career but his just not that confident when his facing opponents with a superb game.That s wgy many occassions his losing to them regularly
Simply the best
God I miss him
Huge forehands
1. PRIME FEDERER
2. PRIME NADAL
3. PRIME DJOKOVIC
Federer prime was easily the best player ever to hold racket
It was all his shirt !
Love that EYYYYYYY!
آي روجر وحش أيقونة عندما يكون جاهز بدنيا لا أحد يقارعه لا أحد حتى تنس
هل رأيتم طريقة لعب
لهذا لقب بكوكب تنس
The run at 2:26👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
G-d mode is RIGHT!
I wish we had gotten to the point where he faced a doubles team where he can use the doubles lines and they can't. I think he would've beaten the two of them.
ESPECIALLY when he played like THIS!
Funny enough, this wasn't even his peak. 2009 was a great season for Fed, but it was far away from 2005-6 form.
Federers highest level was higher than anyones. But also the courts were faster then which was his advantage.
Federer's biggest problem during his entire career was Novak. Federer was extremely difficult to play against Novak as their results show. I'm Serbian but I love Federer and that's why Federer is the man in the first place, unlike Nadal, who is jealous and who broke every bone in his body just to win more titles Than Novak. In terms of style and play and Federer plays the most beautiful tennis
Super!!!👏👏👏👍👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥💪☝️💯
@1:10 murray
the greatest shot faker of all time. moves fast, racquet fast, thread the needle, ball slow, djokovic left to watch at 07:02
If it wasn't so elegant, it'd be a joke.
Fed was sweating. Who knew. He played better with his 90
Djoko 2015 2016 was the highest
THIS IS LITERALLY GOD, NOTHING ELSEE
Dude. Players like Novak and nadal have dominated Federer and they have these same highlight reels.
the biggest narcissist among tennis players
Pete Sampras, Jim Courier and Andre Agassi ALL held the #1 ranking during Roger's reign. Also, Djokovich, Murray and Raphael Nadal all held the #1 spot towards the back end of Federer's ultimate reign.
How long was Serena's #1 ranking
How about Tiger, clearly dominant, without glitches...until the day... She found out!
Federer forgets his signarure shot is the forehand.When he developed his backhand it was favorable for any opponent he faced in any stage of the tournament.That is why Novak cannot beat Roger when he was still utilizing his forehand.Many opponents can attest to that.When the press requested a change on his game he quickly obliged to that request.That is how sporty Fed is He never wants to dominate his opponents on the first place he also wants them to up their game.If any player on the Fab 5 will have the same opportunity as Fed had I think they rather stick to their bread and butter so as not to let their opponents have a winning opportunity like Fed did.That is by far the best compliment you can give to any opponent to see Him Imprive and beat you in any occassion.Cause beating them on the regular basis will not make the match interesting cause its just like watching a movie you already watched even if its a good one once you know the ending its not so interesting to watch.This is why Novaks game cannot come close to Rogers cause he rely on opponents weakness rather utilize his game to make an advantage.A blitz game or hasty one will always favor the player who utilize it rather than using a counter play always it defeats the players Individual excellence.An dalways greatly affects the opponwnt in front of you.
Great !
Nole should hire some guy with better pro experiences and/or proven records to begin his pro career. In other words, he was not pushed enough and/or taught enough in his early years, like before 2010. Otherwise there is no such debate for GOAT
Lol wtf is with old Djoker's serves😂
What a year?
Federer should have easy 30 slams..And what a shame he had no mental..He should serve a ace more against Djokovic in 2019 Wimbledon, 2005 2007 us open
the goat
this ver. Federer vs Alcaraz ?
I'm pretty sure the video has more speed. I don't know how much. Maybe 1.25? You can see movements from both players which are accelerated.
If you don't mind me asking. What year was this?
2009
Djokovic is the Goat, simply bcause he gets most trophy.
Fed is the God, bcause he played a perfect tennis.
Is anybody here with 23 GS ?😊
Mucho slice
there's no need to work tennis when you know how to play it like Rogi does... !!!
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This isnt that close. You cannot argue without stats, and stats prove that Djokovic is #1. It doesnt matter if you go slams, h2h, total titles, it doesn’t matter. In fact, argument can be made that Fed is #3. And sampras is not far behind! Sorry!
To be fair it seems like novak wasn't in a great form that day , still a great performance tho
It always seems like that when Roger is in full flow. 'Cause full flow Roger won't require from you to make sprint along the baseline. That's one of the reasons why Nole-Rafa rivalry feels like so intense. It doesn't take anything away from Nole-Roger rivalry. As a tennis fan, I thoroughly enjoyed Nole-Fed matches even more so than Rafa-Fed matches. It's like fire and ice.
This was 2009 right?
Federer is ancient history thanks to Djokovic😀
I believe Federer came in to the sport when the old legends were just leaving. Sampras Agassi rafter rios Davydenko ect, meanwhile he dominated for a good 4-5 years while novak nadal murray were maturing in their game. When they did it got very difficult after for Fed.
You realize 2017-2023 is similar to 2003-2007
Eh, quando Federer era al top non ce n'era nemmeno per Nole, il quale ha iniziato ad essere superiore a Roger dal 2015 in poi, anche credo proprio per ragioni anagrafiche......
Roger had a very spoiled up bringing and armchair tennis players oogling over the marketing job.. it reflected in his play agaisnt Nadal/djoki he only won 33% of their GS matches over his career and was only 4 of 14 in GS finals agaisnt them. Fedsqaush game was very weak mentally along with his weak backhand where he lossed to djoki 3 times in a row at Wimbledon finals on his supposed best surface and with the crowds on his side too...Couldn't even beat Nadal once at French..Fed's game never evolved same old sqaush style that he got the goldilocks era 2003-2009 where he won 15 slams in a very Low level Era.. The only true ambassador and statesman to the game of tennis is Djoki who post match speeches are very articulated as with Fedsqaush it is very empty/simple as he bumbles through but he did Sell lots of running shoes and watches
Ееееееееууууууу!!! 👍
Djokovic PEAK 2011 and 2015 is the absolute THE BEST in the history of tennis. This version beats Federer 6x-7x on grass..... 8x out of 10 on hard.
Federer 2006 was not able to deal with non peaked Nadal... Pathetic. Federer was still peaked in 2011... 2012 .... 2013.... Peak Djokovic would expose every version of Federer's BH. Specially not mentally stable Federer from his so called peak times. If Federer's prime and peak was so short .... Then Federer is pathetic. But we all know that Federer's peak is much longer .... Its just Djokovic made him look average. If Djokovic would start his free glutein diet earlier than in 2011.... Djokovic would have now already 28 GS minimum.
GOATkovic. :))
No way Djokovic is better than peak Federer on grass and fast hard courts like Shanghai/Cincinnati