This nerf barely touches Ashen Dawn, same guy who top 3’d Adepticon with them just swept a tournament over the weekend with them post nerf. Just dropped the banners and swapped mage to priest to get D5 on the AD
Really! Ha, I guess the 50-or-so points lost isn't as big of a hit as I thought it was. Then again, in my head, I forgot that they even took standards, so those would be a very easy drop... Owie!
That change to controlling objectives really annoys me, the way I though it worked before was really easy to explain: you have to have more scoring stands than your opponent has total stands. Bam. Nice and simple, makes it harder to control zones with multiple units present.
Yes you got it right 😆 More scoring than enemy scoring, more total than enemy total Your example (3 med vs 3 light is a tie, 3 med + 1 light > 3 light) is spot on I do agree making this a special rule would help. But just actually writing the rule in the book at all would help. The devs confirmed twice on the discord (since the April update) that the intent is "more scoring and more total", but the packet just doesn't bother to say that. I don't know why. I assume everyone at PB is running on 3 hours sleep and caffeine while trying to maintain and develop 2 games, 8 armies, model production, lore, aghm, worlds, an app, and a TTRPG.
That would be an interesting way to do it, and there's precedent with other units having limits (usually a limit on how many of a mainstay unit can be brought in a given warband but I don't see why we couldn't expand that to an army limit). Then again we may just see people doing 2 units of 5 Ashen Dawn, ha!
The Mantle of the Devoted item can only give an attached Infantry unit Fanatic now. Because of that, attaching a character to a Tontorr or Apex Predator via riding it will not give the unit Fanatic so it can't chant tier 3.
This nerf barely touches Ashen Dawn, same guy who top 3’d Adepticon with them just swept a tournament over the weekend with them post nerf. Just dropped the banners and swapped mage to priest to get D5 on the AD
Really! Ha, I guess the 50-or-so points lost isn't as big of a hit as I thought it was. Then again, in my head, I forgot that they even took standards, so those would be a very easy drop... Owie!
That change to controlling objectives really annoys me, the way I though it worked before was really easy to explain: you have to have more scoring stands than your opponent has total stands. Bam. Nice and simple, makes it harder to control zones with multiple units present.
Yes you got it right 😆
More scoring than enemy scoring, more total than enemy total
Your example (3 med vs 3 light is a tie, 3 med + 1 light > 3 light) is spot on
I do agree making this a special rule would help.
But just actually writing the rule in the book at all would help. The devs confirmed twice on the discord (since the April update) that the intent is "more scoring and more total", but the packet just doesn't bother to say that. I don't know why. I assume everyone at PB is running on 3 hours sleep and caffeine while trying to maintain and develop 2 games, 8 armies, model production, lore, aghm, worlds, an app, and a TTRPG.
Woohoo, nailed it! And don't forget they're also travelling around to a bunch of events, so 2 hours of sleep :)
They can also limit the number of Ashen Dawn units to 2.
That would be an interesting way to do it, and there's precedent with other units having limits (usually a limit on how many of a mainstay unit can be brought in a given warband but I don't see why we couldn't expand that to an army limit).
Then again we may just see people doing 2 units of 5 Ashen Dawn, ha!
@@tableitgaming I prefer facing 2 units of 5 to 3 units of 4 ;)
Eidolon in city states can give parry to any unit it is leading.
Those big brutes with Parry seems like a good way to neuter a few people's character builds!
100 kingdoms order of the sword have parry, OD characters can get it, and wadruhn have a chant for it
good call out! Isaac's excited for new parry for his W'adruhn.
W'adrhŭn does not have Parry last I checked. They have Counter-Attack though.
Not sure what you guys are talking about, but W’hadrun top tier conquest still has three actions… where is the change for Tontorrs and Apex Predators?
The Mantle of the Devoted item can only give an attached Infantry unit Fanatic now. Because of that, attaching a character to a Tontorr or Apex Predator via riding it will not give the unit Fanatic so it can't chant tier 3.
Spires hot takes next?
We're going to continue on the hot takes video! We do want to do Dweghom in advance of the new campaign release but this is on the list!