Arma 4 ENGINE vs Arma 3 - Direct Comparison! Attention to Detail & Graphics! PC ULTRA 4K

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  • Arma 4 ENGINE vs Arma 3 - Direct Comparison! Attention to Detail & Graphics! PC ULTRA 4K
    Powered by the new Enfusion engine, Arma Reforger lets you fight for supremacy over 51 km2 of incredible island terrain in an authentic Cold War setting, or create unique scenarios in real-time with the Game Master curation mode. Return to Everon, the war-driven microstate from the hit game that started it all, Arma: Cold War Assault.
    Arma Reforger is the first step towards Arma 4 and a versatile, creative, fully-moddable platform for the future, offering a glimpse of things to come.
    My PC SPECS:
    MB: MSI Z390-A PRO
    CPU: i7 9700K
    RAM: HyperX Fury Black 32GB DDR4 3200MHz
    GPU: RTX 2080 SUPER
    SSD: ADATA Ultimate SU650 480GB
    Thank you for watching!!!
    #Arma4 #ArmaReforger #Arma4vsArma3
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  • @Nacalal
    @Nacalal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +388

    I feel like a lot of the missing effects aren't complete yet, glass shattering and underwater explosions may still be in dev, part of why they released reforger was to test and refine the new engine tech they've been working on, I think we'll likely see most of the missing visuals when we actually get ARMA 4 if not implemented later on in reforger.

    • @Krahamus
      @Krahamus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I personally think we will see in reforge since its building tech platform for them, they need community to test certain things, ofc they have in house devs on testing but it would take much longer to test everything by themself, not to mention performance is different from person to person, so community is great choice for testing things out, actually reforged is in Early access so its definitely will have things to come, ofc maybe not everything but most important things, since if they give everything on reforged i dont see what's the point buying a4, so i guess some features and things will be added to a4 witch not necessarily needs lots of testing

    • @murillobonacuore7743
      @murillobonacuore7743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      By the work they done with Dayz, im afraid these effects will never be implemented

    • @roderickfennell7385
      @roderickfennell7385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@murillobonacuore7743 this is different because this is their main franchise they’re gonna put more work into this

    • @murillobonacuore7743
      @murillobonacuore7743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@roderickfennell7385 you got a point, but the state this reforger game has released, worsier then arma 3 from 2013. I still dont trust Bohemian, even in their main franchise.

    • @JPOGame
      @JPOGame 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree

  • @allizdog5927
    @allizdog5927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    No ricochet sound when shooting into rock formations for both versions.
    I'm sure that could be improved. But that's why it has been released so all inaccuracies can be found.

    • @iamnobody8
      @iamnobody8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Omg and now i think there vere ricochet sounds in OFP

    • @LAxemann
      @LAxemann ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We're having a lot of ideas for everything projectile related, fingers crossed we can realize them. But I'm optimistic :)

  • @quadrono5714
    @quadrono5714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Apples to oranges comparison. If you wanna do a fair comparison, find some A3 alpha footage from Stratis circa Jan/Feb 2013 and compare it to Reforger. Showing Tanoa/Post-Apex A3 and compairing to Reforger's alpha is disingenuous. They have clearly stated that effects and destruction are turned off right now because they aren't ready. 80% of what you see in Reforger right now is placeholder assets, animations, and textures. It's a tech demo for Enfusion and that's it.

    • @xenio8736
      @xenio8736 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I feel like that after almost ten years they could have not released an early access like that and waited more. Because it is, for me, a bit lackluster even though I know things will come later.

    • @nicobenji0248
      @nicobenji0248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@xenio8736 They are not a AAA company and Arma was never really popular enough for them to get a good budget. Most smaller devs do early access cause they don't have enough people to just crank out a better game. 10 years sure but with a small team. Graphically Reforger looks good in terms of lighting and animations. It also appears to play as it should from the short amount of footage I've seen. But it's obviously missing details like the burnt/destroyed look for destroyed vehicles for example. But it's in alpha just like Arma 3 when it first came out. When Arma 3 first came out people made the same comments that it "should've been more" after a long dev cycle. But they were referring to gameplay mostly over graphics back.

    • @nicobenji0248
      @nicobenji0248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@xenio8736 What I mean is they are not like Rockstar, Activision, or EA. They have to release it in an early state so that people can back it until it's complete. Because they don't have the budget to keep working on the game so they need money coming in to complete it. EA releases games in an early state cause they can get away with it. They have the money to complete a game before release but they don't care to do that. That's the difference

    • @quadrono5714
      @quadrono5714 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@pilotman9819 The thing is, as stated above, Bohemia is a known quantity, they are not EA or Ubisoft who will release an unfinished mess. Their track record and game catalog speaks for itself. They make great games and they fix, add to and support them for years after release. I would have sent them $100 for Reforger if they had asked. Arma 4 will be epoch changing just like A2 and A3 were, it's worth the investment

    • @Opal-R
      @Opal-R ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pilotman9819 I think they suffer from Stockholm syndrome

  • @user-md7wm5io8l
    @user-md7wm5io8l ปีที่แล้ว +80

    The new Arma looks like a demo version of Arma 4, but the price tag is completely inadequate for such a demo

    • @mammasgullunge
      @mammasgullunge ปีที่แล้ว +3

      u do get the full game at release, this is just early access

    • @ceolnariazztv4073
      @ceolnariazztv4073 ปีที่แล้ว

      arma 3 alpha wasn't any bigger tbh though i miss mortars

    • @wb4324
      @wb4324 ปีที่แล้ว

      it has a small price..

    • @jibblywiffers2090
      @jibblywiffers2090 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mammasgullunge not true, arma 4 will be a seperate purchase

    • @duck_entertainment
      @duck_entertainment ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's literally a paid demo atm

  • @germie9739
    @germie9739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    people really need to take this with a grain of salt, because this is still very in development, meaning a better comparison would be Reforger Early access and Arma 3 Alpha, considering how Arma 3 is pretty much a finished product and Arma reforger is basically an Engine Testbed.

    • @obi-wankenobi8446
      @obi-wankenobi8446 ปีที่แล้ว

      They spent 8 years on Reforger

    • @foxtrotsierraproductions8626
      @foxtrotsierraproductions8626 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@obi-wankenobi8446 Wrong they spent 8 years on the engine

    • @yugen
      @yugen ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jagildown No, no it's not. Walk into any building and you will immediately see the difference between Reforger and DayZ/Arma and every other game that uses RV to handle terrain. DayZ uses Enfusion for the renderer and player controller but NOT for terrain. They wanted to launch DayZ on the full Enfusion engine but they ran out of time.
      Reforger is the first game to fully utilize the FIRST ITERATION of the full Enfusion engine. This is just the beginning, just a glimpse into the future and it's exciting.

    • @yugen
      @yugen ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jagildown yeah I know you don't care because you don't understand what it means to create a new game engine. You're literally just comparing surface details and visuals and making a hasty judgement based on that.

    • @yugen
      @yugen ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jagildown I've been gaming for about 35 years and the "final visual" isn't nearly as important to me as the game mechanics.

  • @Farmaros
    @Farmaros ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Want to play Arma Reforger and only have Arma 3? Turn the settings to maximum, turn on the grass, turn on the wind and play on Livonia.

    • @tamerlachauve5164
      @tamerlachauve5164 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      watth ?? bro arma 3 is 9999999999 better. I just wrote an entire book in the comments of another video to say how reforger is unworthy, arma 3 is a UFO and still very beautiful today, reforger is simply ugly it looks like a mix between fortnite and pubg, and roblox animations

  • @zuhardi
    @zuhardi ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Man arma3 is old but still looks beautiful. The game that kills thousand of hours in my life.

    • @alpha12321romeo
      @alpha12321romeo ปีที่แล้ว +2

      better to say
      'that enhanced the experience of thousands of hours in my life'

    • @abdulhameedrasooli8386
      @abdulhameedrasooli8386 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahah same here I have 12k hours and I still want to play like it's so addicted

    • @zoriiginalx7544
      @zoriiginalx7544 ปีที่แล้ว

      Arma 2 was better

  • @JamesDeal1982
    @JamesDeal1982 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A lot of these effects are just due to it being an engine they’re still building. So don’t worry. Arma 3 was out for what? Over a decade? It didn’t start out with all those great effects. Give it time. Once Arma 4 is out they’ll have the majority of it all working and it’s going to be amazing.
    Don’t let naysayers get you down. Be HYPED! New FrankieOnPC videos!

    • @nomansland120
      @nomansland120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the difference is that all the stuff they learned developing in A3 they seemingly completely forgot for A4... after so long time developing.. amazing.. slow

  • @glennpeterson1357
    @glennpeterson1357 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting. Would be good to see Reforger vs Arma3 from 2013. Almost 10 years on A3 has been improved a lot

    • @xGoodOldSmurfehx
      @xGoodOldSmurfehx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There would be almost no differences, they both use the exact same template to make the game
      For argument's sake here are the differences (none at all):
      ArmA 3 had CSAT (OPfor), NATO (BlueFor) & AAF (IndFor) on alpha release
      Reforger has USSR (OpFor), USA (BlueFor) & FIA (IndFor) on alpha release
      ArmA 3 had one map on alpha release (Stratis)
      Reforger has two maps on alpha release but initially had only one (Everon, +Arland added later)
      ArmA 3 had no flight model/no air vehicles, all vehicles and arsenal were basic on alpha (still is that way to this day without DLCs and mods)
      Reforger has no flight model/no air vehicles, all vehicles and arsenal are basic on alpha
      ArmA 3 vanilla still has very basic destruction physics and VFX 10 years after release (mods are excluded since Enfusion is still being developed and enhanced)
      Reforger vanilla has very basic destruction physics and VFX on alpha release (but is already comparable to ArmA 3 and is still being developed and enhanced)
      ArmA 3 was slow to be improved by mods due to lack of mod support on alpha release (the mods for ArmA 3 will be incompatible with ArmA 4 and Enfusion)
      Reforger has excellent mod support on alpha release (mods for Reforger will be completely compatible with ArmA 4 as a simple drag n drop action, figuratively speaking)
      ArmA 3 ran like dogshit on any system on alpha release (took them years to optimize it properly)
      Reforger gives me 60FPS on alpha release
      People can say what they want but looking at it objectively; you can see that even as a testbed for ArmA 4, Reforger is superior to ArmA 3 in everything except game maturity (time for content to be made and mods to be released)
      The major game changer is Bohemia walking away from the old engine onto a more customizable, user-friendly, feature-rich, visually-stunning game engine that replaces the old shitty and very inefficient Status Quo script language for actual C-Sharp/C++ language which is like replacing a train with a fighter jet

    • @glennpeterson1357
      @glennpeterson1357 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xGoodOldSmurfehx great comparison! :)

  • @Navencrest
    @Navencrest ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crazy thats a game from 2013 still look so good :D

  • @louisosmany9556
    @louisosmany9556 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    arma 3 is really beautiful…

  • @hawaiidispenser
    @hawaiidispenser ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I bought Reforger and it sometimes looks like the toddler version of a big kids toy. It should be kicking its ass in every metric, but it's not. It's not all bad, but I'll gladly stick with Arma 3 for now.

    • @avtomat6471
      @avtomat6471 ปีที่แล้ว

      You do realize Arma reforger isn't Arma 4 right... it's just a game preview (unfinished).

  • @patman3310
    @patman3310 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I mean this is the engine the game is being built on. This isn’t the game yet. And I can only imagine the mods on top of it

  • @SirBrandan
    @SirBrandan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The player models movements and positioning is so weird compared to arma 3.

    • @c3sxxzxxz726
      @c3sxxzxxz726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't worry it will be fixed

    • @c3sxxzxxz726
      @c3sxxzxxz726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      **On arma 4
      i guess it has to do with aesthetics and keeping up the old style but i am sure they will tone it

    • @hannorasmusholtiegel6044
      @hannorasmusholtiegel6044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's still in early development, animations will be changed

    • @nobitanobi6535
      @nobitanobi6535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Im pretty sure the animations and player models are from dayz so that’s probably why

    • @why_i_game
      @why_i_game ปีที่แล้ว

      The basic models and animations look terrible to me, much worse than Arma III. They look like cartoon characters, and movement is janky.

  • @julienfrisson9372
    @julienfrisson9372 ปีที่แล้ว

    impressive comparaison in 4k ! ;)

  • @h.a8681
    @h.a8681 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Honestly Arma 3 looks better in most areas

    • @whitehorsemilitia
      @whitehorsemilitia ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fully fleshed out game with visual effects. Reforger is a engine tech demo, that's why the tools are available for the users, you make your own effects.

  • @fabiankrug8571
    @fabiankrug8571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Very funny comparison. On the one hand arma 3 is almost 11 years old and before that in development for years. On the other hand arma 3.5, a development sandbox, which is only supposed to present a new engine, where modders can already deal with the tools. And yet the community seems to think they have to see it as a full game and competitor to arma 3.
    That's not related to this video, but rather to the comments here and on Steam.

    • @thatbants7134
      @thatbants7134 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      11? ArmA 3 came out not even 9 years ago lol

    • @Deniskoslov
      @Deniskoslov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah okay but the price is too expensive for the little the "game" have to offer

    • @fabiankrug8571
      @fabiankrug8571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thatbants7134 oh, yeah, you're right. In June 2012 it was shown on the e3 in LA, but you're right. That changes my hole point of view. I'm sorry I from now on claim the exact opposite. These one (two) years... how I could be so wrong....

    • @fabiankrug8571
      @fabiankrug8571 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Deniskoslov thats right from your point of view - maybe. But:
      it's part of bohemia's funding for arma 4 - funding the development of the infusion engine, so to speak. No one has to buy it, no one is forced. But everyone here will probably only be able to play the super great mods and QoL improvements (we all love) in arma 4 later, because the mod developers spend so much money on a sandbox today. Beside: Many of us love the feeling to get in it - from scratch.

    • @obi-wankenobi8446
      @obi-wankenobi8446 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol news flash, the new engine LOOKS AND RUNS LIKE TRASH. So so sorry for having an opinion.

  • @ugurarslan255
    @ugurarslan255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Beautiful

  • @ferrishils3020
    @ferrishils3020 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Представляю как она будет выглядеть через 1-2 года😍

  • @marv15
    @marv15 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    would love to see if they have improved vehilce colisions

    • @karomonarch
      @karomonarch ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They did, cars don't go into outer space or spontaneusly combust from a 40 mph impact anymore.

    • @harrypotter1973
      @harrypotter1973 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karomonarch 🤣

  • @garethstanden3732
    @garethstanden3732 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm running Reforger on i9700k OC and RTX 2070 Super. Anything more than MED settings and i'm below 50FPS. But thats on a Samsumg G9. How is it for others atm?

    • @obi-wankenobi8446
      @obi-wankenobi8446 ปีที่แล้ว

      Xbox Series X says it runs at 30fps BUT it actually runs between 10-15fps, with alot of screen tearing. Which is worrying since all the Series X consoles are exactly the same, and it says they had optimised the game for the console....

    • @tslater2005
      @tslater2005 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@obi-wankenobi8446 consoles will not handle this right

  • @FadedBlack3000
    @FadedBlack3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Bro I wish BSG (tarkov) made a sandbox like Arma style.The shit would be so immersive and the features and map details are insane .This new engine only has nice lighting and reflections that I see.

    • @KvltKommando
      @KvltKommando 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      tarkov engine/movement/control sucks dick in all aspects but variety and detail, I wouldn't want anything to do with it, i'd much rather see tarkov made on this engine or some branch of the quake engine

    • @nobitanobi6535
      @nobitanobi6535 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tarkov struggles having a couple of people and ai in a match but they are working in a game like that which is called arena, it was going to be a DLC but now it’s a separate game

    • @FadedBlack3000
      @FadedBlack3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@nobitanobi6535 arena will be nothing like Arma .Arena is gonna be like 3v3 small matches,like cod did in 2019.

    • @foxtrotsierraproductions8626
      @foxtrotsierraproductions8626 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its so funny that people really think, Tarkov can handle a Arma Sandbox 😂

    • @derpiesaurus
      @derpiesaurus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@foxtrotsierraproductions8626 I don't think anyone really does, it's more just a wish. Though I also wish that; Tarkov has ruined pretty much all military related FPS games for me, all the animations on stuff looks so janky and low quality like unity asset store level stuff compared to Tarkov, it's too good. Same with all the movement from FPS games.

  • @nasty7400
    @nasty7400 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They already said Arma reforger isn't Arma 4

  • @TrapisYT
    @TrapisYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    imagine this game with escape from tarkov animations

  • @d.b.5070
    @d.b.5070 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s almost like one of these is a full game and the other one is a showcase

  • @treeinafield5022
    @treeinafield5022 ปีที่แล้ว

    Useful comparison

    • @yugen
      @yugen ปีที่แล้ว

      How so?

  • @jaspervandijk27
    @jaspervandijk27 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You can't compare a engine by comparing effects in a game.

  • @elusivemite
    @elusivemite ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmm. Ten year old mature game on a mature engine Vs a wip on a brand new engine. Not sure what this is trying to prove?
    Engine itself feels good. Look forward to seeing this evolve and lay down the groundwork for arma4

  • @RuzzyID
    @RuzzyID 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've found it weird how they hold weaponry within Reforger, it looks.. scuffed, to say the least.

    • @Go_Coup
      @Go_Coup ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m not sure what you mean, but technique was different back in the ’80s.

    • @johnnycash3106
      @johnnycash3106 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Nah man the arms look horribly skinny. They break the wrist holding certain things and the characters look so not brute. They have a long way to go

  • @DikiyDrochila
    @DikiyDrochila 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Прикольно что в новой арме, естьзадержка звука, тоесть его распространение, граната взрывается, мы это видим, но звук доходит за несколько секунд, прекрасно!

    • @user-dl2ky7ep8w
      @user-dl2ky7ep8w 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Да согласен. Я в целом доволен новым движком. Есть косяки конечно, посмотрим на будущие патчи.

    • @DikiyDrochila
      @DikiyDrochila 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-dl2ky7ep8w я только заметил ,то что у гранаты нет физики) как в арма 2

  • @goatcar4599
    @goatcar4599 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:55 man I hate it when games make it so when you shoot a windshield once it just slaps a decal on it and calls it a day. I love it when games like arma reforger make so you actually have bullet holes in where the shot went. It makes it so much immersive.

    • @wtfdarus
      @wtfdarus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      true, the best example for glass physics is GTAV

  • @holthuizenoemoet591
    @holthuizenoemoet591 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still a sucker for arma 3 look and feel!

  • @shiranzahi
    @shiranzahi ปีที่แล้ว

    That means Arma 4 is also being made? 😍😍

  • @torturetuesday5191
    @torturetuesday5191 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reformer looks cartoony not realistic. But could be because it's still in development.

  • @tharealkeks
    @tharealkeks ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t forget guys Reforger Is a Game Previev

  • @krhonn
    @krhonn ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone knows that if you throw an object of 800g (1.7 pounds) against beach sand it bounces like a rubber ball ... physical, those crazy

  • @cooks37
    @cooks37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a stupid title. These effects are not engine effects. They are made in an engine for every game. So we have no idea what Arma 4 effects will look like. For Reforger they clearly weren't a huge priority at this point and the game is still in early access.

  • @Exav2
    @Exav2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The realism of the graphics is barely any different. You'd think after a decade they would be able to make player models a bit higher in the poly count like so many other games do

  • @cock_puncher2424
    @cock_puncher2424 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    arma 3 gun sounds, crack sounds and explosion, sounds like 8bit

  • @ParryLinn
    @ParryLinn ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly tho, I don’t see major graphic improvements that surprised me. I mean, with a bunch of mods in Arma3 I don’t feel any urge to buy reforger. Hope the actual Amra4 would be so much better than this.

  • @JingMitsuyamaCH
    @JingMitsuyamaCH ปีที่แล้ว

    Arma Reforger seems more like a tech demo than a "full" game. I think it would've been wise to either have waited until a more stable build was out to release or to flat out charge far less than 30 USD. I bigger insult is the fact that updates are not going to be a huge thing and that you don't even get as much of a discount for Arma 4. In the long run it would be more beneficial to just wait for Arma 4 and continue playing Arma 3 or playing an hour of Reforger to experience the changes first and get a refund lol

  • @MrMiniTakitos
    @MrMiniTakitos ปีที่แล้ว

    Arma Reforger looks like a unity engine asset flip game.

  • @Alcatraz509
    @Alcatraz509 ปีที่แล้ว

    For where reforger is they have a lot going for them.

  • @radekseky4571
    @radekseky4571 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's crazy how comparable the two games are in some aspects, excepts one runs at 90fps and one at 40 lol.

    • @VeryFamousActor
      @VeryFamousActor ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Once mods get going it'll get back down to 40, don't worry

    • @radekseky4571
      @radekseky4571 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VeryFamousActor Well I had 40 without mods so I don't even dare to imagine how bad it would be in Arma 3 with mods for me lol.

  • @lbpdluis
    @lbpdluis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    arma reforger its for the comunity to give feedback to build a better arma 4, so i expect this new engine to improve a lot

  • @coolcat-nq4mj
    @coolcat-nq4mj ปีที่แล้ว

    1:51 I'm not sure about you but that's definitely not how glass breaks

  • @yannickdeimel2000
    @yannickdeimel2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where are the nighttime comparisons?

  • @JoMiMi_h
    @JoMiMi_h ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "god I love Arma 4-"
    tHE GAME IS ARMA REFORGER NOT ARMA 4 _insert Cosmo yelling meme here_

  • @BloodKitten_
    @BloodKitten_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the comparison is unfair considering its not even complete, try again when it actually release, meanwhile, arma 3 is still the latest arma game for me.

    • @andrewwillis9759
      @andrewwillis9759 ปีที่แล้ว

      True but when you have people that are talking like reforger is the best thing ever i dont think its so bad to see a side by side. and i dont think reforger will ever release considering that its not really a game.

  • @gigigahdora3075
    @gigigahdora3075 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, Reforger need more time in the oven

  • @bokc_nonpopularsalt1011
    @bokc_nonpopularsalt1011 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about Modded Arma 3 vs Arma 4 Engine

  • @ANTIBATAR
    @ANTIBATAR ปีที่แล้ว

    ye sall about maping more realist on reforged,but all explosion and shoot seem more good on arma 3 still

    • @yugen
      @yugen ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are just visual effects, pretty inconsequential in the long term.

  • @MrAznSoldier
    @MrAznSoldier 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Stop calling it Arma 4 why the click bait title? Besides more people would be searching for the name reforger

    • @coreytaylor7577
      @coreytaylor7577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He didnt, It says Arma 4 Engine, which in fact truep

    • @Krahamus
      @Krahamus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reforged and arma 4 is using infusion engine witch basically arma 4 engine, since reforged will not going to be final product like arma 4, reforged is more like testing ground with help of community of new engine, future engine improvements, new features and other things, witch afterwards tested in reforged will be implemented in arma 4, so title is correct since arma 4 will be full product while reforged is not full product and you will not see certain features of arma 4 in reforged.

    • @allizdog5927
      @allizdog5927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's using the Arma 4 engine. Like the title said.

    • @jh5kl
      @jh5kl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coreytaylor7577 actually its just the initial iteration on the engine that they said they want to develop it with the community, specially the modders, these are just the foundations of the engine

    • @foxtrotsierraproductions8626
      @foxtrotsierraproductions8626 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Krahamus I dont know Infusion Engine and Reforged what is this ? OH you mean Enfusion and Reforger

  • @Pasha8204
    @Pasha8204 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unreal Engine3.0 in 4090rtx gt rules!!!

  • @Tigershark-qy2gq
    @Tigershark-qy2gq 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Until Reforger allows people to create their own missions with a map editor and play single player offline, this is just window dressing. So many of us just play this series of games for the single player map engine they've had in their games. I've been playing since Operation Flash Point, and own every single OFP, and ARMA. I still have all of them installed and still play them all. I prefer all the games that allow me to build my own battles and set it up the way I want. So Reforger is nice to look at, but doesn't give us looking for strong single player action any meat on the bone.

  • @nihil75
    @nihil75 ปีที่แล้ว

    And like all Arma games - it runs 100% on CPU, single thread!

  • @etgmaster44
    @etgmaster44 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wassup with the glass shatter? Source engine from 2004 can do better than that also with bullet impacts.

    • @meuhey
      @meuhey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you should know Bohemia engines specialize in large scale environments.

  • @yuriymactavish74
    @yuriymactavish74 ปีที่แล้ว

    Похоже игра из "прошлого" пока ещё лучше ;)

  • @skaiikru308
    @skaiikru308 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pour moi ARMA 3 c'est le plus beaux ✌️✌️✌️

  • @f1am3d
    @f1am3d 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is not an Arma 4 engine, it is Arma Reforger engine.

  • @Sqwince23
    @Sqwince23 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    you're only looking at the skin of the game. The engine is so much better than before. the flexibility and adaptability is beyond what Arma3 could ever be. all the mods you saw in Arma3 were VERY labor intensive. now with this editor it's all built in. the game will be endless community content because they have given all of the tools. the game runs so much better than Arma3. think of all the stuff that came out of just Arma3 like DayZ and Pub-G, that's just scratching the surface with the capabilities of the engine and workbench

    • @yugen
      @yugen ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good luck conveying this to the masses. This is what gamers don't understand. This is just the very beginning of a new engine that will unlock many possibilities that were never feasible before. I get so frustrated reading negative comments from people who cannot differentiate between a game engine and a game created with an off the shelf engine. The game engine is the most exciting aspect of this.

  • @Benglator1
    @Benglator1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reforger is not complete yet. Even Bohemian has stated on the game page that Reforger is that stepping stone from Arma 3 to Arma 4. So comparing Reforger to anything is doing nothing as they are using Reforger to refine Arma 4. Not my words but those from Bohemian Developers.

  • @123shade123
    @123shade123 ปีที่แล้ว

    why bother comparing stuff that they will polish at the end ? the first thing is stability on servers, its new engine so thing like that have priority than for example fire effects which can be upgraded real easily

  • @peadee2774
    @peadee2774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This isn't much of a engine comparison.. show optimization (put 200+ soldiers on the map and see that there is almost zero impact on performance whereas in a3 you will drop to 20FPS even on RTX3090ti and 5950x); reflections (even characters eyes reflects terrain), tiered weapon reloading system (extra shell in the chamber); hybrid death animation+ragdoll system; sound isolation inside buildings (when you are inside building anything you hear outside is muffled); character clothes getting wet; puddles generated while raining; 3D Picture in picture ADS; lighting; rain dropping on any surface (when you pop a window the rain will go through the hole); new AI that actively seeks for enemies using flanking and, in some situations, behaving almost like real players; mouse scrollwheel controlled stances and running/walking speed; Rocket launcher in prone position; secondary weapon doesnt have to be rocket launcher anymore (can be anything now); new interaction menu; interactive dashboards inside vehicles; way more animations: exit/entering vehicles, handbreaks, shifting gears and manual car transmission; advanced movement system allowing to climb over walls etc; advanded radio system allowing to set manual frequencies; melee fighting system (hitting with gun-stock); advanced inventory: uniforms are now separate parts, you can also have multiple layered container items inside each other, chest lights; characters body parts are now working even more independently off each other giving you possibility to hold different things in different hands; character now physically holds compass/watch/map; full physics-based destruction is in development now and will feature fully destroyble props and buildings (maybe even terrain deformations?); super useful modding tools which allowed modders to basically make amazing mods since day 1 (we now have even freaking minecraft and its been out few days lol - arma 3 will never have such mods) and i can go on and on ...

    • @vangezy6456
      @vangezy6456 ปีที่แล้ว

      And everyone kept on saying, "ArMa 3 Is BeTTEr ThAn ReFOrger"

  • @project_20xx
    @project_20xx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I dislike the way newer games look
    > High contrast
    > too clean
    > lack qol features
    both games lack in their own departments but arma 3 looks better overall

  • @coolcat-nq4mj
    @coolcat-nq4mj ปีที่แล้ว

    3:26 speed of sound is so slow

  • @childofconvienience
    @childofconvienience 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most things you showed are not representative of what Arma Reforger does better. Get some midrange to lang range comparion shots. And show the differences in lightning. Especially with lights at night not shining through walls. Or buildings having a dark interior from over 100m away. Those things were blatantly not possible in Arma 3. The close up is not that different.

    • @yugen
      @yugen ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing how they didn't compare global lighting! As just one small example. Another would be persistence of servers. Etc., etc., etc. It's so frustrating trying to engage with gamers who only want to be outraged at the onset. So fucking frustrating, especially when BI is one of a small handful of developers making custom engines to push their genre forward.

  • @sirfortescue1
    @sirfortescue1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the arma 3 footage without mods?

  • @adambalint3935
    @adambalint3935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes, it is a tech demo, nothing more. The Enfusion engine is definitely better. Look at those lights. I ask Bohemian dev team that please look lot of Arma3 mods like blasts, weapons and vehicles sounds, interactions etc and integrate these into Arma4. Very important effects are sounds, sparkles, blasts, fog, smoke, glass breaking, bullet hits on surface, projectile penetration on different materials.
    AND please, I don’t have to hit an enemy soldier more than twice to die.(often six times with an M4)

    • @obi-wankenobi8446
      @obi-wankenobi8446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the tech is crap, 8 years of work and all they have is a step backwards

    • @foxtrotsierraproductions8626
      @foxtrotsierraproductions8626 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@obi-wankenobi8446 Its a improvement in lighting, Performance, Vehicle Gameplay, Animations, Draw Distances, Graphics, Attention to Detail

  • @boris8489
    @boris8489 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Arma 3 with FX mods fully destroys Reforger.
    Also not a fan of the cartoony graphics..

  • @websurferrussialover7524
    @websurferrussialover7524 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't know but I think that ArmA reinforcer isn't good enough compared to the incredible arma3

  • @Reevesi
    @Reevesi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arma 3 looks fine to me

  • @Bubblyhiccups
    @Bubblyhiccups หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Arma 3 is still better with just about everything

  • @NOLA_playmaker
    @NOLA_playmaker ปีที่แล้ว

    They should be ashamed of those breaking animations for glass. It's like a two-stage break that looks cheap..

    • @yugen
      @yugen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They should not be ashamed, this is the first iteration of a new game engine. Such effects are just post processing and have very little to do with mechanics and tech.

  • @mohsenrabani8486
    @mohsenrabani8486 ปีที่แล้ว

    یا خدا سی گرافیک 😱

  • @surikt
    @surikt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Друг, у тебя стоят хэштеги с прошлого ролика)

  • @exileserver6644
    @exileserver6644 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unreal engine Arma when?

  • @bastianrekiem2925
    @bastianrekiem2925 ปีที่แล้ว

    ............................................................................................Arma R / Arma 3
    en mi elección:
    disparo: ⭕ / ✅
    granada agua: ⭕ / ✅
    viento: ✅ / ⭕
    vidrio estructuras: ☑ / ☑
    auto en llamas: ⭕ / ✅
    explosión auto por lanza cohetes: ⭕ / ✅
    vidrios coches: ⭕ / ✅
    granada en terreno: ⭕ / ✅
    balas en metal, tablas y roca: ✅ / ⭕
    cuerpo a tierra en pasto: ✅ / ⭕
    lanza cohetes a edificio: ⭕ / ✅
    humo granada: ☑ / ☑
    nado: ✅ / ⭕
    sol entre hojas : ✅ / ⭕
    ahora ustedes

  • @andream4314
    @andream4314 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think arma 3 Is still much Better: smoke, explosions and Fire of the new arma for me are ridicolous

  • @superthermite
    @superthermite ปีที่แล้ว

    and the Winner is Arma 3^^

  • @user-et7zy1uu4m
    @user-et7zy1uu4m 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Арма 3 все ещё на 1 месте так как там все прорисовано до мелких деталей да и + нужно всех выгнать из Арма 1 Арма 2 чтоб туда все перешли да бунт будет но через 5 лет он успокоится и все это примут как что нужно двигаться дальше

  • @user-sn4fc7bc5j
    @user-sn4fc7bc5j ปีที่แล้ว

    Count your blessings if you buy it early for the early access. Once they fix a lot of the issues, people will buy it anyways. Enjoy the extra $20-30+ tag because people didn't want to do the early access. I'll be glad to help be a part of making milsim stick to consoles finally like I've always wanted with Arma, HLL, and hopefully post scriptum and squad in the future 🤞. Need more realistic games like these for console

  • @ferdnandowang2688
    @ferdnandowang2688 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't see big different ...

  • @MrZelatur
    @MrZelatur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    shooting weapons are very simplified, looks a bit boring to be honest, the sound and visuals

  • @milkbubbles
    @milkbubbles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The graphics leave a little more to be desired in my opinion, the arma4 just barely looks different than arma3 and a3 came out in 2013. It looks like if someone loaded up arma3 with graphical mods and called it a day

    • @Krahamus
      @Krahamus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its not final release, its more of early access for arma4, so you will see a lot of improvements over time, if watched stream yesterday and it does look amazing for me at night, in rain and in general, dont expect to be battlefield level.

    • @murillobonacuore7743
      @murillobonacuore7743 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Krahamus so they cant sell the game already if its unfinished. Dayz for example, still carries most of the bugs since the first release. My advice: wait for the official release, Bohemian its not a reliable developer

    • @Person-el3sf
      @Person-el3sf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I disagree tbh, the graphics and environmental details are amazing. I’m just hoping they don’t get downgraded

    • @TwistLosi
      @TwistLosi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The lighting blows ArmA 3 away in various situations, especially inside buildings, night time light and shadows, and distant shadows at long range in forests etc. The physics are a lot better overall also, then there's stuff like actual moving water streams and wet surfaces now from rain etc which never existed in any ArmA.
      ArmA 3 is better looking then it's original state back in 2013 also from updates.

    • @chariothe9013
      @chariothe9013 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Graphic is fine since it's all about texture and pixel, the thing that make them beautiful is POST PROCESSING. And those can be implement later, or never since arma is never well known for post processing graphic but more on a raw texture side.

  • @julienfrisson9372
    @julienfrisson9372 ปีที่แล้ว

    comparaison arma 3 modded ?

  • @user-sm1sj5rl1d
    @user-sm1sj5rl1d ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10 лет😄

  • @cam_machi
    @cam_machi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, effects are basically the same

  • @DanielBerthellemy
    @DanielBerthellemy ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for a Arma 4 DayZ mod!

  • @byboble1
    @byboble1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    arma reforger loocks horible but with better grass,sky and trees

  • @GottiPlays
    @GottiPlays ปีที่แล้ว

    looks like a 2006 game

  • @oliverl89
    @oliverl89 ปีที่แล้ว

    A bit too saturated colors

  • @serpegipiopo
    @serpegipiopo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As duas são bem fracas na real, essa enfusion do arma reforger, que tanto falam em ser a engine para o novo arma 4 e dayz 2, está bem atrasada em relação às engines gráficas que outros jogos usam hoje em dia!

  • @smit3418
    @smit3418 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arma 3 SUPER 👌 😍

  • @DavidArochaGonzalez
    @DavidArochaGonzalez ปีที่แล้ว

    arma 3 FOREVER

  • @aninnerconflict3886
    @aninnerconflict3886 ปีที่แล้ว

    3 better then 4, thats the point.^^

  • @SealGuard
    @SealGuard 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so sad beacaus arma 3 best gams for RP and I thinks arma 4 have big potentiel but I say this gams was a realty simulateur of fight

    • @goover7533
      @goover7533 ปีที่แล้ว

      ? Why you talk about arma 4? We don't know about Arma 4..we need wait 1 or maybe 2 years

    • @SealGuard
      @SealGuard ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goover7533
      Yeah but for the moment all I see is a kind of Arma 2 that will try to get us out I'm not saying it has potential it's just that doing more than arma 3 will be complicated without copying a lot of things now graphics engine

    • @SealGuard
      @SealGuard ปีที่แล้ว

      thinkss gg trad XD

  • @TheYaq
    @TheYaq ปีที่แล้ว

    performence XD

  • @weedy7575
    @weedy7575 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's not Arma 4, that's dayz, not the same game as Arma 3

  • @ItsOlDino
    @ItsOlDino ปีที่แล้ว

    Not fair to call it arma 4 it’s maybe an early version

    • @yugen
      @yugen ปีที่แล้ว

      It's neither Arma 4 nor an early version of Arma 4. It's the first early access demonstration of the Enfusion Engine.