People have no clue Williams got shot The guy still has to make a living George Chuvalo had to watch his sons wither. Beneath these warriors are People with sadder tales than people could understand
Wish I could go back in time and work for Williams. Great man, great fighter, disgusting managers. Cleveland was robbed again and again, even in death. Bless you, Champ. :(
My father was George's sparring partner over here in England when he fought here in 63 also Zora folleys and Henry Cooper's Jim wicks would not let him fight chuvalo as Zora folley had knocked cooper out and he was an old man
Interesting to note that George Chuvalo only had like 15 or so amateur fights . Where a guy like Ali had close to 200 , he was 198 lbs at age 15 .. couldn’t find anyone to fight in Canada . He was born in the wrong era in the wrong place in a lot of ways turned pro at 19 just didn’t have the time to develop properly ..
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 I’ll have to agree with u on that this time. But my question is how’d u think about today’s boxing and how do u think it would have fared against old school?
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 thank god ur not deluded unlike some boxing fans that think modern would obliterate old school . It’s the opposite actually. Today’s crop would be beaten into a bloody pulp.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 he wasn't that effective at it. He shifted pretty good but he always drops his hands. But once he gets in close,,,, he's all over you.
And you'll see George Chuvalo combinations from head to body. Look at his back muscles and you'll see why he's able to throw those hard hitting combinations.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 Lucky that you have a autograph. Both guys well mostly early 80s and before used freeweights and bodyweights to get those muscles. And remember these guys are not in their primes either and still in shape. Keep up the good work man.
Howard Cosell is so full of himself, only trouble is he full of BS, I liked when Scott LeDoux kicked his rug off. It couldn't happen to a more deserving jerk. I though Chuvalo out pointed Williams, nothing wrong with that fight, way better than junk heavyweight fights of today.
Man, he ain't no bum. Champ of Canada, 63 KO's, never knocked down, Canadian. Canadians ain't no bums. He's a Great brawler, don't underrate Chuvalo, give him credit. His chin ain't glass, now that's for sure. He's been in the ring with Foreman, Frazier, and Ali. He's the best contender ever. Canada's Greatest.
Cleveland Williams kinda reminds me of James Bonecrusher Smith. Two Gentle giants who's tenacity never matched their size & power. Both, I feel came along in the wrong era, ruled by all time greats, Ali, Liston, & Tyson.
STR8Fightah ‘76 He was shot .357 magnum at point blank range which caused a lot of damage and accelerated his downfall. Therefore if that incident didn’t take place one he would’ve given Ali a better showing and even beat him and earned World Champion Status.
STR8Fightah ‘76 Ali avoided Williams pre Liston 64. He feared facing the Cat. He was knocked down by Sonny Banks and Henry Cooper average fighters at best. Telling me Cleveland Williams would’ve been easy beat. I disagree completely
@@clubberlang589 I agree & disagree with ya. I dont think Ali avoided him & I think he would've beat him regardless. I do understand such a significant injury would hender Williams career, hence making him less dangerous as expected, given his size & strength. So I agree that fight would've been more difficult if Williams never got shot.
This announcer made a big error. Chuvalo did not fight for the title 3x! When he fought Frazier, joe had not yet met Buster mathis and thus did not even have the NYS version of the title.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 Chuvalo was in a tough spot .. he was too tough for a up and comer to risk a nothing fight on ..I can see why Ali didn’t want to fight him before the Liston fight after the mauling he did to Dundee’s guy Dejohn ..
@@bobbyhulll8737 I think the NOI had a part in Terrell’s victory and Chuvalo’s loss. It wasn’t that good of a fight, really. Terrell threw about 3,000 jabs and Chuvalo chased him round after round.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 he was supposed to fight Ali before the Liston fight too much of a risk . I don’t blame him George wasn’t ever going to be an easy out of you haven’t watched this doc it’s excellent goes into detail on it all th-cam.com/video/9O_9ANas7NQ/w-d-xo.html
The commentator made a fact wrong on Chuvalo's title fights, which he fought 2 times not 3. First, he lost to Ernie Terrell for his WBA Heavyweight title and second to Muhammad Ali for his World Heavyweight Title. Chuvalo's fight with "Smokin" Joe Frazier was a non-title fight when Frazier was coming up and not for World Heavyweight Title.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 True, but I think the theory that the WBC (World) and WBA planned the unification between Muhammad Ali and Ernie Terrell which they fought in February 6, 1967, a year and a half after Chuvalo fought Terrell and a year after Chuvalo fought Ali the first time.
2383Scorpio Me too. The NOI probably threatened a manager of Chuvalo’s or something so that Ali could fight Terrell and have all the belts. You can see in Chuvalo’s fight with Terrell in the last rounds he wasn’t really fighting... he was just trying not to be knocked out because he knew he was going to win it (by the judges.) either way. So I agree.
![George Chuvalo vs. Jerry Quarry [HW.[Dec.12th-1969]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/SUWGNkHQiGA/mqdefault.jpg)
![Cleveland “The Big Cat” Williams vs. Ernie Terrell II [April.13th.1963]](/img/n.gif)
People have no clue Williams got shot
The guy still has to make a living
George Chuvalo had to watch his sons wither.
Beneath these warriors are People with sadder tales than people could understand
but MuHamAdHaliAli iS tHe GrEAtEsT BoXeR!!!!
I saw this closed circuit. Nice to see it again. Two top warriors passed their peak. It was a war. Thanks for this.
Wish I could go back in time and work for Williams. Great man, great fighter, disgusting managers. Cleveland was robbed again and again, even in death. Bless you, Champ. :(
Seems Sonny put liniment in Williams eyes before Cleveland got ko'd
@@midnighttrucker19 spot on sir.👍
@@midnighttrucker19 If an untruth is repeated enough
@@midnighttrucker19 yeah that liniment was called a jab, then a hook.
This looks to be the undercard of Ali vs. Buster Mathis. That bout is in full colour... how come this footage’s colour has varied?
Ali hyped his fights, so he got attention from media.
Great fight. Love watching Chavulo when he gets inside and opens up👌🥊🥊 Not flashy by any means but it worked for him, one rough and tough fighter.
Combination punching to the body and head by Chuvalo. Williams was lucky to escape with his life.
My father was George's sparring partner over here in England when he fought here in 63 also Zora folleys and Henry Cooper's Jim wicks would not let him fight chuvalo as Zora folley had knocked cooper out and he was an old man
Interesting to note that George Chuvalo only had like 15 or so amateur fights . Where a guy like Ali had close to 200 , he was 198 lbs at age 15 .. couldn’t find anyone to fight in Canada . He was born in the wrong era in the wrong place in a lot of ways turned pro at 19 just didn’t have the time to develop properly ..
1970’s = The golden age
And '60's, man. You can not forget the '60's.
'60s IMO was the Greatest decade for boxing. Middleweights, Heavyweights, etc.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 I’ll have to agree with u on that this time. But my question is how’d u think about today’s boxing and how do u think it would have fared against old school?
Old-School would school new school
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 thank god ur not deluded unlike some boxing fans that think modern would obliterate old school . It’s the opposite actually. Today’s crop would be beaten into a bloody pulp.
One of Cleveland Williams biggest weakness was his defense. As we all can see he was physically strong and he had fast hands. Pity he was shot.
James Richardson Yes, very unfortunate that he was shot. But couldn’t this man do the philly shell?
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 he wasn't that effective at it. He shifted pretty good but he always drops his hands. But once he gets in close,,,, he's all over you.
Shot. In more ways than one.
And you'll see George Chuvalo combinations from head to body. Look at his back muscles and you'll see why he's able to throw those hard hitting combinations.
I also got his autograph.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 Lucky that you have a autograph. Both guys well mostly early 80s and before used freeweights and bodyweights to get those muscles. And remember these guys are not in their primes either and still in shape. Keep up the good work man.
antonio mosley And you should go see the 2pac mixes! I put boxing highlights over them. It’s dope.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 Interesting I'll watch it later.
The Cleveland Williams at this time had lost a lot of his muscle tone clearly past his prime
Howard Cosell is so full of himself, only trouble is he full of BS, I liked when Scott LeDoux kicked his rug off. It couldn't happen to a more deserving jerk. I though Chuvalo out pointed Williams, nothing wrong with that fight, way better than junk heavyweight fights of today.
Truth
The fight was on NOVEMBER 17th, not September, in 1971. Ali fought Mathis in the main event.
Nice footage. Sadly George fought in one of the toughest boxing eras. If he fought today he would most likely be a champ
Oh hell yeah, man. It’ll never be like the Old-School. Nothing could match it.
Robert Kelly How do you know that??
George doesn't have many skills besides a chin
Man, he ain't no bum. Champ of Canada, 63 KO's, never knocked down, Canadian. Canadians ain't no bums. He's a Great brawler, don't underrate Chuvalo, give him credit. His chin ain't glass, now that's for sure. He's been in the ring with Foreman, Frazier, and Ali. He's the best contender ever. Canada's Greatest.
There is nothing sadly in fighting in golden era. So he never held a belt. Thats desteny or something.
Ayyy nice vid👍
👀👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 this was BRILLIANT
That should be November 17, not September 17.
pardon me.
Cleveland Williams kinda reminds me of James Bonecrusher Smith. Two Gentle giants who's tenacity never matched their size & power. Both, I feel came along in the wrong era, ruled by all time greats, Ali, Liston, & Tyson.
Foreman, Frazier.
STR8Fightah ‘76 He was shot .357 magnum at point blank range which caused a lot of damage and accelerated his downfall. Therefore if that incident didn’t take place one he would’ve given Ali a better showing and even beat him and earned World Champion Status.
Bashir Hayek Hadn’t Williams been shot before his bout with Ali, Williams still couldn’t have beaten a 1966 Ali.
STR8Fightah ‘76 Ali avoided Williams pre Liston 64. He feared facing the Cat. He was knocked down by Sonny Banks and Henry Cooper average fighters at best. Telling me Cleveland Williams would’ve been easy beat. I disagree completely
@@clubberlang589 I agree & disagree with ya. I dont think Ali avoided him & I think he would've beat him regardless. I do understand such a significant injury would hender Williams career, hence making him less dangerous as expected, given his size & strength. So I agree that fight would've been more difficult if Williams never got shot.
This announcer made a big error. Chuvalo did not fight for the title 3x! When he fought Frazier, joe had not yet met Buster mathis and thus did not even have the NYS version of the title.
why didn't Chuvalo get to fight Henry Cooper for the commonwealth title ...
Henry Cooper ducked Chuvalo.
Henry Cooper said Chuvalo was a dirty fighter.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 Chuvalo was in a tough spot .. he was too tough for a up and comer to risk a nothing fight on ..I can see why Ali didn’t want to fight him before the Liston fight after the mauling he did to Dundee’s guy Dejohn ..
@@bobbyhulll8737 I think the NOI had a part in Terrell’s victory and Chuvalo’s loss. It wasn’t that good of a fight, really. Terrell threw about 3,000 jabs and Chuvalo chased him round after round.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 he was supposed to fight Ali before the Liston fight too much of a risk . I don’t blame him George wasn’t ever going to be an easy out of you haven’t watched this doc it’s excellent goes into detail on it all th-cam.com/video/9O_9ANas7NQ/w-d-xo.html
Williams would've won had he not been completely and utterly shot. As a matter of fact, he quite likely would've stopped Chuvalo.
He wouldn’t have knocked him down, though.
If and buts are candies and nuts
Maybe on cuts, but not by knockout or TKO. Chuvalo was one of those iron-chinned guys who just didn't go down.
@@hodell82 why not TKO? A very green Foreman and Frazier were able to TKO Chuvalo.
@@abe7434 stopped the fights on cuts with frazier and the ref was a dumbass on the foreman fight
Chuvalo , throwing combinations, don't believe it !
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The commentator made a fact wrong on Chuvalo's title fights, which he fought 2 times not 3. First, he lost to Ernie Terrell for his WBA Heavyweight title and second to Muhammad Ali for his World Heavyweight Title. Chuvalo's fight with "Smokin" Joe Frazier was a non-title fight when Frazier was coming up and not for World Heavyweight Title.
2383Scorpio Actually, Chuvalo WON that fight- He lost by the judges.
(Chuvalo vs. Terrell)
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 True, but I think the theory that the WBC (World) and WBA planned the unification between Muhammad Ali and Ernie Terrell which they fought in February 6, 1967, a year and a half after Chuvalo fought Terrell and a year after Chuvalo fought Ali the first time.
2383Scorpio Me too. The NOI probably threatened a manager of Chuvalo’s or something so that Ali could fight Terrell and have all the belts. You can see in Chuvalo’s fight with Terrell in the last rounds he wasn’t really fighting... he was just trying not to be knocked out because he knew he was going to win it (by the judges.) either way. So I agree.
2383Scorpio Btw, are you subscribed to me?
2383Scorpio No, actually he was right. This is 1971. Chuvalo didn’t fight Ali until 1972. 😉
Dislikes are from social justice warriors that loot and riot for George Floyd.
That I pissed off.
what you say ?
@@palereaper I said BLM is a lie and all you fools fell for it.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 BLM is a lie tho
@@palereaper Yup. They don't protest for the blax that have been kilt by other blax.
Daylight robbery all day
Chuvalo beat dat boy silly.
@@THEDONSTR8Fightah76 nope robbery all day long
@@Jj-ty7qh Nope Chuvalo won fair and square you bitter black racist.