Women love the quote, 'Behind every great man is a great woman.' But why does no one talk about how behind every toxic man, there’s often a toxic woman?
Because its the modern era, the west is a bit dysfunctional once again, also everyone ain general in and outside the west are dumb then it being inherently bad most times kinda. That and people are always either sheep, wolves, and barely shepherds or something like that.
If a woman said this exact same thing you'd flame him. Your bias is so obvious in all your videos, even if the man is wrong, he's right and the woman is wrong. The reason the "behind every great man is a great woman" is because no one acknowledged intelligent women for a long time and they still don't.
You know the shittiest part in all this? The simple guys and gals who don’t know the first thing about this “game” get the short end of the stick. Women who are hopeful and romantic meet other broken women and get guided away from the simple, “boring” 9-5 guys and towards the bad boy who is going to use them and toss them away. Men? Shit, I could make a goddamn essay on the blame and abuse that we suffer through that no one bats an eye at. Some dude can go out of their way to try to take care of a broken woman and wind up broken themselves.
As a man, it is NOT your responsibility to "fix and repair" a "broken" woman who is not family. That is on HER, not YOU. Let's be honest with so many women nowadays, they end up "broken," most likely due to their own moral failures and poor life decisions. They weren't smart enough to see five minutes ahead of themselves and discern between the "bad boys" and authentically good men. That is NOT your fault. This film was released in March 2007; it's almost eighteen years later. But things have gotten worse considerably. Ken (portrayed by Mars Callahan) may come off as too idealistic. His philosophy and methodology might have worked in the 20th century and maybe even in the 2000s if you were fortunate, but when the 2010s started, the game just took a nosedive for men. Sal (portrayed by Matthew Lillard) seems to be the kind of guy who is the lone survivor who was right all along with how things are going now. The game is clearly rigged, and men must take measures to protect themselves and put their interests first (unless children are involved). Now, so many guys don't even become "players or womanizers"; they never get involved with them because they never even get the chance, or men walk away. As a man in the English-speaking Developed World, it can be too risky to be romantically involved with a woman, and it's simply not worth it in many regards. - divorce/marriage failure - infidelity/promiscuity - STDs/STIs - misattributed paternity/paternity fraud - false accusations/allegations - domestic abuse - weaponizing children against the father - financial instability/ruin - jeopardized mental health - trust issues - family court I'm not saying we should give up entirely, but we must be aware of the glaring issues and risks and take proper precautions if we are to attempt an endeavor like this.
Behind every toxic man is a toxic woman, behind every toxic woman is a toxic man, and behind every abusive/manipulative/toxic person is another one of the same kind. This is where the phrase “hurt people hurt people” comes from
And yet the guy can still identify it and acknowledge it. Which is why the solution is getting together and agreeing upon rules to not "do it anyway" and then we hold each other accountable for messing with those rules through laws and social norms, instead of perpetuating hookup garbage. But hey, screw all that, liberation is much better right?
Then socially we should push to disencourage selfishness even outside of relationships. But for some reason we do the opposite? I swear it seems like A TON of effort goes into making sure we treat eachother this way when the opposite is actually really really easy
Words coming from what sounds to be a madman, but in reality, is smarter & more aware than anyone else in the room, never have more true words been spoken.
Please watch the full clip and the good man good woman clip, actually watch the full movie. This is why Andrew Tate is popular. When you don't catch him doing a rant about how pathetic the men who pay him money are and how women aren't good for anything other than being able to make him money and literally had a course teaching men how they could become pimps like he was. His defenders just points to the thing that generally are true, but more important than that. They hit you on an emotional level because several generations of young men were told they were either nothing or dangerous. Not saying this character is as bad as Tate, Sal is a player, a f boy all it whatever. But he's simply a guy who found out some hard facts of life at a very delicate point in his life. And he as a result stopped growing. The point of the movie is to by no means prove that he's the bad guy who everything he says has to be defeated for good to win and evil to be vanquished. What the movie gets SOOOO right is that if you are lucky enough to be surrounded by a group of men your age who knew you for most of your life. They will accept you as you are, and if you are happy living life the way you are. That is A okey. But those that really know you, are going to validate your concerns and still not be afraid to challenge what you are saying when they know it's not coming from a real place. He's putting on a persona. We all have personas in one form or another. But these kinds of friendship in particular can see through it. Because those are the types of friendships you've had. Where you spent hours upon hours seeing the persona completely Crack. In desperation they look to you for help and you have no idea what to do or what way you truly should help them. But you don't allow yourself to second guess in those moments. You let instinct and logic take over and try to be as objective as possible without losing compassion.
@@Saiya4779 Not a fughen one. Yet three of them have decided to break me down until I couldn't function. Each time I listened to that idiot talking about winding up alone as if it's some kind of horrific hellish future, instead of the peace of mind, body, and soul that it actually is. Women MUST learn to take accountability or this will continue until civilization collapses. It's happened before, multiple times, and we aren't the exception to the rule.
I think it goes even deeper. Behind every toxic man is a toxic girl who broke his heart. But behind every toxic girl is a lack of proper parenting that taught her to respect others. And it's not like men are taught to do this either. People are raised too fragile. They believe respecting someone else means to give up such a huge part of themselves, and that it's only worth it if the other person has proven themselves. But it shows how small they are, and how weak they are. That a simple action like consideration for another's feelings is such a drain on themselves, such a monumental sacrifice. They say the other person isn't entitled to it and that they must protect their own peace. But how utterly sensitive must someone be that one uncomfortable conversation is enough to break them?
it's true, parents raise boys and girls differently. Women are raised as if they deserved everything and everyone must given to them, while boys are raised to earn everything while they see their sisters get everything, the sisters see the men need to earn it and can't have anything. This goes later on life when they are adults, it causes self steem issues for men, but women? They become toxic, thinking men don't deserve anything unless they work hard for it, and they deserve anything because of who they are. This is an issue rooted into families. Both boys and girls should be raised equally, so this vicious circle stops. Both boys and girls should earn everything and not just recieve things freely, except for care, love, attention from their families. Everything that isn't necessary shoudl be earned, while basic needs should be given to them so they can eunderstand empathy,, and being raised equally can help them not having such issues later in life.
@@AnarchySystem Girls being spoiled is an overcompensation for how women were, and are, treated in society. It's like a pendulum, where girls go from being raised to only do housework and find a suitable man, to instead being spoiled and treated like a princess. But people in general are not good at balance.
There's often toxic men behind toxic girls too. When a girl has too much "baggage" its usually because she's tired of getting played with by playboys. Granted sometimes women go for the "hot, dangerous, exciting" guys that everyone knows (except maybe her) is going to break her heart. But guys do the same thing too. The reality is that its not either gender's, both have blood on their hands, both are equally responsible. It's a people issue.
When a girl is toxic it is because of bad parenting. When a boy is toxic it is because he was hurt before. Do you even realize the double standards your mind mades up?
There is not one hint of wisdom in it. Girls are statistically not only more but younger groomed. So the girl who was "hurting" him was just in younger years used and abused and his solution is being the bigger abuser, always. I hope you enjoy fairness and love amber hearts because this would be fairness. Horrible people only dating other horrible people.
That would have made an impact if love wasn't absolutely dead now a days. Relationships on average last 2- 4 years, marriage is around 8 then you better hope she don't take it all along with the kids and leave you back at square 1. I'll take my chances alone until further notice and I know I'm not alone in that.
I can't help but think of Hemingway who had his heart broken one time then started a string of relationships where he'd Marry, Cheat, Divorce and Repeat.
"Is this how it always ends? Relationships? People hurting each other, breaking each other's hearts, their sanity, then moving on just to do it to somebody else?" "No. For the sake of our next lover, we must be better. Open your heart to it, to the suffering, the pain, the regret. Let it feed you, let it show you what you must do to ensure it will never happen again. To you, or your next. The cycle ends here."
What if there is no way to get a next one because there was never a first one in the first place and every attempt to start gets blocked by feminists and other toxic people getting in your way?
@@thehippie3610 It’s a speech from God of War (2018) although edited to fit the context of the video. The original speech was a conversation between the two main characters who are father and son with the son asking if the life of a God always ends with sons killing their Father as the main character did in the original trilogy of the series.
The only problem is that it pretends that the lonely virgin males don't exist. The romantic monogamous ones who only talk with a few girls and then got falsely accused, and fearing for their freedom, the guys simply dropped off the grid and play games on their computers instead of interacting with real people.
@@hayatefaith4273 This. Even when it's put as plainly as possible that men behave they do because of women they still circled around to "well it's because men are bad."
@hayatefaith4273 life is a lot more nuanced than "nuh-uh it's your fault." The first step towards reconciliation is acknowledgment. I've been on both sides of this particular type of pain, so I know for a fact that it IS a cycle.
@@hayatefaith4273 you have the right to be mad at certain people, but once you start grouping them all into a group then you’re going into a very dangerous territory, that is what he’s criticizing on the side of criticizing women.
Its the constant, gleeful hostility of some women towards men. And the absolute radio silence from any other woman when they start running their mouths.
Men do that too though honestly. How many friends of guys know he's cheating on his girl and never say a word? Its not a gender issue, its a people issue.
@@MrJustonemorevoice No man I know that I would call "friend" does that. Just like no woman I know that I call a friend is openly hostile towards men. In both cases it's a small minority of people, but they do exist. You're more aware of women being hostile to men because you're a man, you're naturally more sensitive to it. If you were a woman it would be the other way around. There is no "good" gender, there is no "bad" gender, there are just people.
Personally yes, I don't want to be emotionally compromised by a woman and deal with them much real talk because they may slow me down or its the other way around honestly with me even. I wanna enjoy my life, let other people stress it out if it ends up working out somehow lol.
Every single person on Earth has a before and after phase of life. Sometimes it's about a relationship. Sometimes its about becoming a parent. Sometimes its about war. Whatever it is, there is usually one big event in people's lives that changes them and they can't see life the same anymore. They become a different person after that. If you're lucky, you can fix the problems with your adjustment and become a better person. If you're not lucky, you become a really bad person who hurts people.
Good for you. It ain't really anything special. But can have serious repercussions on you mentally. It feels very empty with someone you do not love, even worse after.
It doesn’t really matter in the long run. Relationships are kind of meaningless to people who don’t relate to anyone. Plus most people are superficial, fake or do shit things to others while claiming themselves victims or self justified for it. Why have those headaches in your life and call it anything more than a burden? Its why life is more easier to deal with alone.
If your unlucky enough to be robbed, it is not conducive to think everyone you meet from that point on is a robber. Learn to discern good from bad, pearls from marbles, and you will be alright. You let the wrong one in, however it is prudential to still open the door so you can some day let the right one in. May anyone who has been abused be allowed to heal and grow, and may in the end they find the peace and happiness they seek.
Complete horseshet. Not even close to an appropriate analogy. You don't know the robber. You aren't intimate with the robber. You haven't invested in, trusted, and willingly shown the robber your vulnerabilities. They aren't the ones committing treason against you, betraying the trust and love you've built up for them because they're strangers. It is foolish to place your fate in the hands of people incentivized to use you as a resource AFTER gaining your trust and loyalty. All your comment is boils down to trying to shame men into compliance so that the parasitic relationship between modern men and women continue in perpetuity.
@ricorosson5752 a perfect analogy, it is not, however the pain you hold blinds you to its wisdom, I do not shame the hurt, but offer them to put down that burden and look with eyes of discernment. If the person let in caused such pain then truly they were a stranger; no matter how much it felt as if they were known. Closing ourselves off because we were hurt does a far larger disservice to us then the risk of being hurt again, it may prevent more hurt but it also prevents anything good, and leads to the same bitterness you have come to me with, but I don't accept your bitterness, you may carry that burden if you wish, but know so long as you do, you will not find peace. My message is that you have eyes to see, and reason to discern with, but that the pain you cling to is your choice, not once did i say you must be with anyone, only that closing off your heart makes finding someone worthy impossible. in fact my very last statement has no reference to any sort of relationship, it was that you may heal and grow from your past suffering so that you can find peace and happiness. I know not what that will manifest as for anyone, nor would I ever seek to limit anyone in the path they walk, I hold no judgement to those who seek companionship, or those who prefer solitude, my hope is that All may find Peace and Happiness.
@@metalmanexetreme You're responding to nothing. Notice how youtube has deleted my comment? You're making a whole loft of assumptions about me, and you're denying reality to boot. Keep going though, makes you look more foolish than you already are ^.^ No. Being alone isn't bad, and it's NOT a disservice to yourself or anyone else. The only people that say that are those that want the grift to continue and demand that men stay on the plantation. Not gonna happen, sunshine. Get your head out from betwixt your lower cheeks if you want to talk with the adults. Life isn't a disney fairytale, and that is a fact.
The fucking difference is that you most likely didn't know the robber. You know the cheater, you know them too damn well. What happens if that person is your parent? Someone who is supposed to love you unconditionally, someone you look to protect you from strangers? Pos women don't exclusively come from romantic relationships, plenty come from parental relationships.
It took SO long to get over my first girlfriend breaking my heart. I was lucky enough to not go down a very dark path. Now I’m married to the woman of my dreams. I hope everyone else who’s been hurt by that girl, also finds that amazing one that puts those pieces back together.
Shaggy was used to dealing with ghosts every now and then. But there are limits.He only became toxic after the thirteenth ghost.. there is only so many times you can be "ghosted" before it changes you. This semi cryptic stuff isnt for everyone. Tap that below if you got it.
@@n1nj4l1nkBrave comment for someone who "Explain Like I'm 5" applies to. OP was making something called a joke, based on the actor being Shaggy from the Live Action Scooby Doo movies. Scooby Doo is a children's mystery series, primarily in cartoon form where a group of teenagers hunt for "ghosts" (usually a guy dressed up in some Halloween costume) and occasionally real ghosts and monsters which is part of OP's joke. "Ghosting" is also a double entendre for cutting off a relationship abruptly without any conclusionary event such as a fight or an announcement of sorts and is the pun being made by OP. And yes, this ridiculously verbose writing style is a form of sarcasm making fun of you and your reading comprehension or rather lack thereof.
Can't blame anybody. We all play a part in perpetuating the problem. You're doing the same thing to an innocent girl that was done to u. The cycle of pain continues.
@@argiedude3762 Good for you, but the cycle doesn't stop at you does it? That's arrogance to think so, the cycle may slow for you and pick right back up again for any kids you have or God forbid any relatives.
This is a conversation NOBODY is ever going to be ready to have, but that's why it exists, to remind you of reality and pull you out of your comfort zone in exchange for an understanding.
Not always, there are people who don’t wish to inflict the pain they experienced on others and through it learn how NOT to hurt people. We’ve all experienced hurt, but you can make the decision to be better.
@yellowblanka6058 i know but sometimes people are unable to do that and that cycle continues, I agree with you people are able to make better choices but sometimes people don't, guess it all depends sometimes u know
We can choose to rise above our circumstances no matter our past or what was done to us to be better people, or become just like the people who hurt us and become a part of the cycle. But we have no right to complain about the nature of the cycle of pain if we ourselves choose to be a part of it.
@@hayatefaith4273 your take is just as extreme as feminazi who say that all men are r@p1st. Both of you are the same. One of the problem is some people follow their emotion and tend to have extreme thought.
My husband was fine til we married, then turned toxic. I was faithful, happy, grateful to him for all he did for me. He would accuse me of things I wasn't doing. Treating me in ways suddenly that made no sense. Then I met his ex that he dated before me and it all clicked into place. She was a rough one. Kinda shocked she isn't in prison. It literally took 10 years before he finally started treating me right. We are doing pretty good now.
Someone else in the comments put it simply, "Hurt people hurt people." So we, as people (not separated into men and women) need to do our best not to hurt others- or if we do, we need to find a way to fix it. It's a human problem. I know I've certainly hurt someone. He hurt me, too, though unintentionally (I only realized it was unintentional afterwards- we were both only 15 at the time, and rather silly). I apologized and did my best to fix what I did. He forgave me and did his best as well. We were able to be friends later. I learned from my mistakes and haven't made them again. If I hadn't self-reflected and put in the effort, he certainly could have been toxic going forward. It would have been his choice to respond to his pain in that manner, but I would still bear some blame. I could have chosen to be toxic, as well, if we hadn't worked it out. Thankfully I had good role models and knew that I had to make things right. I was hurt again a few years back. He didn't mean to, I think, but that didn't make it any less painful. We didn't have a chance to resolve the issue. But I know that I have to deal with my pain myself, and not take it out on others. This hurt person won't hurt other people again. I learned my lesson a long time ago.
His friends call him out in the movie and yeah this whole channel is about how men are always right and women are always bad. I'm happy to see people finally breaking the brainwashing like you.
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 I mean you have channels that do the same for women. It makes perfect sense why this channel exists because it's not wrong, it's just only one half of the story. Think channels like this are the only thing keeping a lot of men from ending it because women generally hold the mass media and kind of give these issues no attention. That's the importance of holding both sides accountable to the same degree. The Yin creates reason for the yang to exist.
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 did you got triggered during the first part and did not watch the whole video? This video covers both sides of the coin.
That’s sad and all, it REALLY is, but as a grown man, as a human being, I’m not gonna take my frustrations and trauma and repeat this trash & toxic cycle on a new woman that has done nothing to me.
Easy to say, sometimes trauma makes monsters, not an excuse for terrible behaviour but when you're told seeking help makes you weak you tend to stay messed up.
Fellas, speaking as a man who's faced my fair share of hurt and heart break, I feel it equally as important to balance this beam by mentioning that you are still responsible for your actions. Your broken heart might make commitment or emotional connection challenging. That is fair, and I'm sorry you're still hurting. But if you're one of the "MoSt RoMaNtIc Of ThEm AlL" and break hearts in turn for the fun of it, that is 100% on you. Only you can decide and act on what you want to do. The moment your emotions become decisions and actions, the ONLY person who can be held accountable for them is YOU, and not Stacy from the past.
It's funnier when you think that people that realize this about each other a lot of the times end up together, and share their mutual dislike of people.
This film was released in March 2007; it's almost eighteen years later. But things have gotten worse considerably. Ken (portrayed by Mars Callahan) may come off as too idealistic. His philosophy and methodology might have worked in the 20th century and maybe even in the 2000s if you were fortunate, but when the 2010s started, the game just took a nosedive for men. Sal (portrayed by Matthew Lillard) seems to be the kind of guy who is the lone survivor who was right all along with how things are going now. The game is clearly rigged, and men must take measures to protect themselves and put their interests first (unless children are involved). Now, so many guys don't even become "players or womanizers"; they never get involved with them because they never even get the chance, or men walk away. As a man in the English-speaking Developed World, it can be too risky to be romantically involved with a woman, and it's simply not worth it in many regards. - divorce/marriage failure - infidelity/promiscuity - STDs/STIs - misattributed paternity/paternity fraud - false accusations/allegations - domestic abuse - weaponizing children against the father - financial instability/ruin - jeopardized mental health - trust issues - family court I'm not saying we should give up entirely, but we must be aware of the glaring issues and risks and take proper precautions if we are to attempt an endeavor like this.
Excuse me? English speaking DEVELOPED world? Development is a constant thing, every country constantly develops, it’s just that the West is (currently) in the lead. You are incorrect about your use of the word developed in this case
I love that everyone in this clip is a little bit smart… but mostly idiots and it reads like a very natural “drunks pontificating like they’re scholars at the bar”
That’s why it’s called invino veritas the ancient Persian when discussing philosophy or ethics even politics would first discuss the matter drunk then repeat the discussion sober if both discussions came to the same conclusion that was deemed to the correct course of action
@@vioveo7440what gets me is the people in complete denial of how true it is. This comment is the movie night edition of "attack" the person not the argument
Just talk to someone in public, you find atracktive, it will work someday, trust me. I am a 22 year old 60kg, 183 cm tall, guy. I look like a stick, I act like a child because I grew up without a father and I still got chances and let me tell you: in the end, when you fuck up, it's you who fucked up, not the situation you are in not, your abusive parents not you not having money or a car. In the end you have the control over everything. Don't let other people and espacially your self doubt take that away from you, otherwise you have already lost. Stay strong, try to improve yourself every single day, bit by bit, fail as much as you can and never stop learning from that
@@leonpreiler9995 - Spare us. When one plays life on hardcore for next to nothing in return. While the other is on easy mode and acts so entitled. It shows then the game is broken. So for all the agency we have as individuals, which yes can go a long way, it's despite operating in a broken game.
@@leonpreiler9995 Man, I understand you are one of those who created your character with your own hands/will, but not everyone is born or becomes an Atlantean from Ayn Rand’s novel. The first thing we need is a stable economic and political situation in the countries of the first and second world, at least. So that places or clubs could appear where people could have similar statuses and not meetings of losers of different levels. Now the situation is similar to the interwar period with notes of the Weimar Republic in the heads of different people...
To summarize, a villain isn’t born but created. A person isn’t born a scumbag, life could make them a scumbag, just as how your not born knowing, your taught to know. It isn’t right to say men are scumbags or that women are terrible because at the end of the day something made them that way in their life.
And Matt is right. Most men grow up being taught how to treat women, most women grow up being taught what to expect from men. A lot of guys get treated like sh*t because some girls have put up their walls to protect themselves, because too many other guys wanted them for their beauty. Guys have a lot to do with inflating girls' egos by throwing constant compliments and flirtations at them, but women also have a lot to do with men today choosing not to date anyone. Too much attitude and complaining from a girl drives a guy to his breaking point at times.
Probably the most honest movie I've seen when it comes to Man/Woman dynamics. Where the first act is the guys, from all angles, the second are the women from all angles, then the third is the two groups together and the application of those angles.
Whether y'all love or hate this guy y'all gotta admit he's got a point y'all wouldn't believe me if I told ya'll how many good men I've seen give the best years of their life to a woman only for a woman to manipulate and take advantage of them I mean just think about it for a sec you guys these women wouldn't want us men to treat them like that so what gives them the right to treat us men like that I just can't help but curious🤨🤔🤨🤔
I think the reason that guys don't deal with breakups nearly as well as women, is because men don't have the support system that women usually do. Men, you need to step up and be there for your bros when they are going through a hard time. It's why the "male loneliness epidemic" is so bad. Because men aren't as emotionally available for their platonic friends.
I have my brother and brother in law, but I am severely lacking in both male and female personal friends who I can talk and hangout with. I guess I could try my coworkers at my job but I need way more. I’m a little bit of an introvert and I struggle with ADHD all my life.
Getting your heart broken once doesn't excuse your behavior afterwards. It just kind of sounds like this guy never took responsibility for his own emotions and just pushed them on to everyone else instead of trying to heal. If you're a womanizer, it's not because someone hurt you, it's because someone hurt you and you chose to stay hurt.
Well same goes for the Women who created him. You immediately jumped on him being the problem but this is because both sides do the same thing. Its easy to say turn the other check hard to do and most people will chose revenge over forgiveness.
Ah yes, because a man is totally excused to be a monster because a woman broke up with him/divorced him or rejected him. Meanwhile women are seen as disposable commodities who lose value the second they show signs of aging beyond 18. Let's not forget that women were/are not seen as legally human throughout history. The modern west is an anomaly where women are granted basic human rights. Men lament that their adult human partner has a free will and can leave them. Meanwhile women have to live in constant fear of these unstable, repressed, violent brutes known as men. You guys are always reminding us that our rights can be stripped away at any moment, and yet I'm supposed to feel sorry for you?
3 year relationship, 3 years of healing after. Then a 1 year with another 3 years of reflection. Next relationship lasts a few months followed by 2 more years of trying to find a "different" type of women since it could be "who you choose". If you think a dudes gonna sit there after 12 years of mostly healing and keep hurting himself playing the slow game you are out of your noggin. If treating women bad gets me laid in a week vs being nice taking months-years at a certain point fighting their system is just handicapping myself.
@boangherrazvan3977 I jumped on him being the problem because he is the problem. Why should other people get hurt because of his actions, just because someone hurt him first? All the other women have nothing to do with the first one.
I’ve done my fair share of bad things, but my very first girlfriend was with someone else and I found out and she broke up with me for it and ever since then trust hasn’t been the same for anyone
So CLOSE! So close to true understanding, then the other guy puts all the blame back on the men. The difference between a man and a woman in the writers’ room.
I also feel this way about the first half. Like, they don't really address how this guy just placed the blame for his actions towards all women on the actions of one woman. The fact is both genders are capable of being awful towards each other.
Thank you, feeling insane until this comment lmao. It's like people want it to be made "even" just to go "well both sides..." nope no, that's downplaying the entire issue.
@@hayatefaith4273 You are correct, it isn't an even issue... men by far cause more pain and heartache than women do. I honestly did not think men were even capable of love until I turned 21 and met 'the one'. Until I met his father, I did not even know men were capable of being the faithful ones. The pain and suffering they cause to women before they even reach 21 is incomprehensibly destructive to whole civilizations, but will whine and cry about the one woman he felt entitled to because she was, and I quote, "a sexy piece of ass" rejected him. If men want less toxic women, they should focus on stopping other men from creating them in the first place.
The fun part is after all 5 men give monologuing about their perspectives then the girls arrive and go to the bathroom where the conversations replay from the other side THEN the characters merge into a date movie😂
Oof that beginning. Can just be lied to by someone pretending to be what they aren't while expecting you to act like what you aren't. Wish more healthy adults would just tell kids that passionate love will fail, while practical love will turn passionate because it creates an environment for it to thrive.
There are studies out there conducted by actual psychologists (not ones you find on psychology today) that illustrate that men and women typically cheat for the same reasons: They feel lonely in the relationship that they are in. This whole "Men cheat for pure physical reasons and women emotional" deal is pretty much BS. An argument can be made, however, that men are far more impulsive at infidelity than women because men will let that loneliness build and build and build until it just bursts one day whereas women will recognize it and go out seeking new companionship but not leave.
If behind every toxic man is a toxic woman, and behind every toxic woman is likely a toxic man, where did it start? There must've been SOMEONE, man or woman, who was either just toxic for the sake of it because they're immature, or because issues from other points in their lives seeped through into their love life. The reality is, it's not always a result of the cycle simply perpetuating itself, it's PEOPLE who perpetuate it. Whether they themselves are victims to said cycle or not. Break the cycle, be better, you don't have to perpetuate the problem just because you don't see a way out. Find your way out.
100% agree, one of my best friends is like this, he is a womanizer who pursues and sleeps with every girl he can find. But I watched him stop doing that for a year, because he was in love with a her, and she strung him along, and no matter how much we warned him she was using him he was to head over heels. Then she cheated on him with one of his best friends, and he was shattered. Since then he has doubled down on the ladies and has distanced himself from a lot of people, its really sad, I am one of the few people he still talks to but he doesn't open up as much as he used to.
Honestly it is an all together sad moment in time. When the prospect of freedom is overshadowed by the absence of goodwill. Honor. It is such easy thing to say, much harder to live by. For with honor comes honesty, honesty begets courage, and with that courage the stoic ability that lies on all men to brave any storm that comes in his life. You can’t put it all on yourself though and sparing others the hard truths you yourself accept. But don’t be too giving either. Try and keep the balance o suppose. ❤❤❤ Take care of yourself and each other.
Women love the quote, 'Behind every great man is a great woman.'
But why does no one talk about how behind every toxic man, there’s often a toxic woman?
Everyone wants the credit. Nobody wants the blame.
Because its the modern era, the west is a bit dysfunctional once again, also everyone ain general in and outside the west are dumb then it being inherently bad most times kinda. That and people are always either sheep, wolves, and barely shepherds or something like that.
If a woman said this exact same thing you'd flame him. Your bias is so obvious in all your videos, even if the man is wrong, he's right and the woman is wrong. The reason the "behind every great man is a great woman" is because no one acknowledged intelligent women for a long time and they still don't.
@@spinmaster0 Exactly
Women also doesn't say this either " behind every great women there is great men " 😂
“Frankenstein they Abhor”
“Frankenstein was a whore”
“Leave my wife out of this”
Plain gold.
😂
Will Smith said "calmly"
@@hayleigh60 Nice HP refrence
Damn, writers woke up that day and decided to write straight facts!
Some woman: "UmMm, ThAt'S oFfEnSiVaH!"
@Thorninjag, did you stop the video when they stopped talking about women or something 😂?
Behind every toxic man is a woman who was never the problem.
And women threw a fit
@@truthseeker7815 No, I watched entirely. There's still people who would keep pushing.
1:53 “Because people are selfish and they don’t care.”
EXACTLY.
by that you mean Women. Gotchya Incel
100%
Matthew Lillard is such an underrated actor. The accent was weird but the dialog was great.
Are you challenging me?
I think he’s supposed to be inebriated but I’ve never seen the movie/show.
What accent?
@@danyelleorr-mcneil4711 It sounds like an occasional break into some New Jersey accent.
@plainOldFool oh, ok. I can see that. Or, hear that, lol. Otherwise, he sounds like same old Matt to me. Lol
“Because we do it anyway”
Powerful words of reason
“For the most part we’re not kind, we’re not strong and we’re certainly not wise…”. Beautifully stated.
You know the shittiest part in all this? The simple guys and gals who don’t know the first thing about this “game” get the short end of the stick.
Women who are hopeful and romantic meet other broken women and get guided away from the simple, “boring” 9-5 guys and towards the bad boy who is going to use them and toss them away.
Men? Shit, I could make a goddamn essay on the blame and abuse that we suffer through that no one bats an eye at. Some dude can go out of their way to try to take care of a broken woman and wind up broken themselves.
As a man, it is NOT your responsibility to "fix and repair" a "broken" woman who is not family. That is on HER, not YOU. Let's be honest with so many women nowadays, they end up "broken," most likely due to their own moral failures and poor life decisions. They weren't smart enough to see five minutes ahead of themselves and discern between the "bad boys" and authentically good men. That is NOT your fault.
This film was released in March 2007; it's almost eighteen years later. But things have gotten worse considerably.
Ken (portrayed by Mars Callahan) may come off as too idealistic. His philosophy and methodology might have worked in the 20th century and maybe even in the 2000s if you were fortunate, but when the 2010s started, the game just took a nosedive for men. Sal (portrayed by Matthew Lillard) seems to be the kind of guy who is the lone survivor who was right all along with how things are going now. The game is clearly rigged, and men must take measures to protect themselves and put their interests first (unless children are involved). Now, so many guys don't even become "players or womanizers"; they never get involved with them because they never even get the chance, or men walk away. As a man in the English-speaking Developed World, it can be too risky to be romantically involved with a woman, and it's simply not worth it in many regards.
- divorce/marriage failure
- infidelity/promiscuity
- STDs/STIs
- misattributed paternity/paternity fraud
- false accusations/allegations
- domestic abuse
- weaponizing children against the father
- financial instability/ruin
- jeopardized mental health
- trust issues
- family court
I'm not saying we should give up entirely, but we must be aware of the glaring issues and risks and take proper precautions if we are to attempt an endeavor like this.
Helped a broken girl, she broke me for no reason other than her own ego.
Why did u help her?@@princeraghavvashishth6281
@@princeraghavvashishth6281most likely she was trying to get even with men no matter how good you were to her and that’s the sad part
I remember a TH-camr who said “The best place to go husband shopping is on the island of Broken and Misfit boys”
Behind every toxic man is a toxic woman, behind every toxic woman is a toxic man, and behind every abusive/manipulative/toxic person is another one of the same kind. This is where the phrase “hurt people hurt people” comes from
I was gonna say it's really a never ending chain.
They got a good point, the root of the problem is everyone’s selfishness.
And yet the guy can still identify it and acknowledge it. Which is why the solution is getting together and agreeing upon rules to not "do it anyway" and then we hold each other accountable for messing with those rules through laws and social norms, instead of perpetuating hookup garbage. But hey, screw all that, liberation is much better right?
Then socially we should push to disencourage selfishness even outside of relationships. But for some reason we do the opposite?
I swear it seems like A TON of effort goes into making sure we treat eachother this way when the opposite is actually really really easy
@@hayatefaith4273 The word is "discourage" btw 😂
@@mrkiky language is communicative, me do good job
@@hayatefaith4273 But the reason we don't is always the same.
It's not profitable for the big guy. The rich guy at the very top.
Words coming from what sounds to be a madman, but in reality, is smarter & more aware than anyone else in the room, never have more true words been spoken.
Please watch the full clip and the good man good woman clip, actually watch the full movie.
This is why Andrew Tate is popular. When you don't catch him doing a rant about how pathetic the men who pay him money are and how women aren't good for anything other than being able to make him money and literally had a course teaching men how they could become pimps like he was. His defenders just points to the thing that generally are true, but more important than that. They hit you on an emotional level because several generations of young men were told they were either nothing or dangerous.
Not saying this character is as bad as Tate, Sal is a player, a f boy all it whatever. But he's simply a guy who found out some hard facts of life at a very delicate point in his life. And he as a result stopped growing. The point of the movie is to by no means prove that he's the bad guy who everything he says has to be defeated for good to win and evil to be vanquished. What the movie gets SOOOO right is that if you are lucky enough to be surrounded by a group of men your age who knew you for most of your life. They will accept you as you are, and if you are happy living life the way you are. That is A okey. But those that really know you, are going to validate your concerns and still not be afraid to challenge what you are saying when they know it's not coming from a real place. He's putting on a persona.
We all have personas in one form or another. But these kinds of friendship in particular can see through it. Because those are the types of friendships you've had. Where you spent hours upon hours seeing the persona completely Crack. In desperation they look to you for help and you have no idea what to do or what way you truly should help them. But you don't allow yourself to second guess in those moments. You let instinct and logic take over and try to be as objective as possible without losing compassion.
Director: Uhh…Matthew. Your next line was ‘Zoinks!’
🤣🤣
Matthew: "Are you challenging me?"
Shaggy is off the deep end
I knew he looked familiar 😂
Because Scooby passed away and Velma left him
@@TonyRedgrave-of9od Velma became lame and gay.
😂🤣Ever since I seen that actor he will never not be the live-action version of Shaggy at least in my opinion
@@TonyRedgrave-of9od damn now that's a very dark reality Universe timeline Etc
Majority of men has that one girl that completely broke him!
It can also be more than one
Curious, how many girls did you break?
@@Saiya4779 Not a fughen one. Yet three of them have decided to break me down until I couldn't function. Each time I listened to that idiot talking about winding up alone as if it's some kind of horrific hellish future, instead of the peace of mind, body, and soul that it actually is.
Women MUST learn to take accountability or this will continue until civilization collapses. It's happened before, multiple times, and we aren't the exception to the rule.
💯
Still not an excuse to be a shitty man
I think it goes even deeper.
Behind every toxic man is a toxic girl who broke his heart. But behind every toxic girl is a lack of proper parenting that taught her to respect others.
And it's not like men are taught to do this either.
People are raised too fragile. They believe respecting someone else means to give up such a huge part of themselves, and that it's only worth it if the other person has proven themselves.
But it shows how small they are, and how weak they are. That a simple action like consideration for another's feelings is such a drain on themselves, such a monumental sacrifice. They say the other person isn't entitled to it and that they must protect their own peace. But how utterly sensitive must someone be that one uncomfortable conversation is enough to break them?
it's true, parents raise boys and girls differently. Women are raised as if they deserved everything and everyone must given to them, while boys are raised to earn everything while they see their sisters get everything, the sisters see the men need to earn it and can't have anything. This goes later on life when they are adults, it causes self steem issues for men, but women? They become toxic, thinking men don't deserve anything unless they work hard for it, and they deserve anything because of who they are.
This is an issue rooted into families. Both boys and girls should be raised equally, so this vicious circle stops. Both boys and girls should earn everything and not just recieve things freely, except for care, love, attention from their families. Everything that isn't necessary shoudl be earned, while basic needs should be given to them so they can eunderstand empathy,, and being raised equally can help them not having such issues later in life.
@@AnarchySystem Girls being spoiled is an overcompensation for how women were, and are, treated in society. It's like a pendulum, where girls go from being raised to only do housework and find a suitable man, to instead being spoiled and treated like a princess.
But people in general are not good at balance.
There's often toxic men behind toxic girls too. When a girl has too much "baggage" its usually because she's tired of getting played with by playboys. Granted sometimes women go for the "hot, dangerous, exciting" guys that everyone knows (except maybe her) is going to break her heart. But guys do the same thing too. The reality is that its not either gender's, both have blood on their hands, both are equally responsible. It's a people issue.
@@AnarchySystem, erm… I don’t have a sister
When a girl is toxic it is because of bad parenting. When a boy is toxic it is because he was hurt before.
Do you even realize the double standards your mind mades up?
There is a lot of wisdom in this dialogue even for a bunch of sad drunks
Wisdom comes from honesty.
Honesty comes from Grey Goose vodka.
The whole movie is like this it takes a lot of different perspectives but none of them are wrong😢
"There's a lot of truth in a full bottle of liquor, and a lot of lies in an empty one."
~Jimmy Buffett
There is not one hint of wisdom in it.
Girls are statistically not only more but younger groomed.
So the girl who was "hurting" him was just in younger years used and abused and his solution is being the bigger abuser, always.
I hope you enjoy fairness and love amber hearts because this would be fairness.
Horrible people only dating other horrible people.
Everyone who has been hurt, will always mirror their pain toward the next person who trusts them
That should be chiseled in stone, like a warning from the ancients.
Notice his buddy didn’t say he was wrong just that he might want to consider giving another one a chance
That would have made an impact if love wasn't absolutely dead now a days. Relationships on average last 2- 4 years, marriage is around 8 then you better hope she don't take it all along with the kids and leave you back at square 1. I'll take my chances alone until further notice and I know I'm not alone in that.
@@mattstewart299 amen to that bro 🍻
I can't help but think of Hemingway who had his heart broken one time then started a string of relationships where he'd Marry, Cheat, Divorce and Repeat.
Picasso.
"Is this how it always ends? Relationships? People hurting each other, breaking each other's hearts, their sanity, then moving on just to do it to somebody else?"
"No. For the sake of our next lover, we must be better. Open your heart to it, to the suffering, the pain, the regret. Let it feed you, let it show you what you must do to ensure it will never happen again. To you, or your next. The cycle ends here."
What is this from?
An interesting reinterpretation.
What if there is no way to get a next one because there was never a first one in the first place and every attempt to start gets blocked by feminists and other toxic people getting in your way?
@@thehippie3610 It’s a speech from God of War (2018) although edited to fit the context of the video. The original speech was a conversation between the two main characters who are father and son with the son asking if the life of a God always ends with sons killing their Father as the main character did in the original trilogy of the series.
@@risingphoenix2529Fact and the only way to break that curse is to be a good father that is what Zeus was lacking.
I like that this clip acknowledges fault on both sides rather than just trying to unilaterally blame women.
The only problem is that it pretends that the lonely virgin males don't exist.
The romantic monogamous ones who only talk with a few girls and then got falsely accused, and fearing for their freedom, the guys simply dropped off the grid and play games on their computers instead of interacting with real people.
Why? It makes it a lot more phony and is obviously only done to "not feel one sided".
@@hayatefaith4273 This. Even when it's put as plainly as possible that men behave they do because of women they still circled around to "well it's because men are bad."
@hayatefaith4273 life is a lot more nuanced than "nuh-uh it's your fault."
The first step towards reconciliation is acknowledgment. I've been on both sides of this particular type of pain, so I know for a fact that it IS a cycle.
@@hayatefaith4273 you have the right to be mad at certain people, but once you start grouping them all into a group then you’re going into a very dangerous territory, that is what he’s criticizing on the side of criticizing women.
Its the constant, gleeful hostility of some women towards men.
And the absolute radio silence from any other woman when they start running their mouths.
Men do that too though honestly. How many friends of guys know he's cheating on his girl and never say a word? Its not a gender issue, its a people issue.
@@AbominationalFailure Yup, I've gotten this from the male populace and know a lot of men who've gotten the same from women.
@AbominationalFailure The Top 1% maybe who can get dates. Most don't even make it past the job interview.
@@AbominationalFailure You must have some really scummy friends because I do not agree with that in the slightest.
@@MrJustonemorevoice No man I know that I would call "friend" does that. Just like no woman I know that I call a friend is openly hostile towards men. In both cases it's a small minority of people, but they do exist.
You're more aware of women being hostile to men because you're a man, you're naturally more sensitive to it. If you were a woman it would be the other way around.
There is no "good" gender, there is no "bad" gender, there are just people.
William Afton makes a good point.
Personally yes, I don't want to be emotionally compromised by a woman and deal with them much real talk because they may slow me down or its the other way around honestly with me even. I wanna enjoy my life, let other people stress it out if it ends up working out somehow lol.
facts
Pain, is not the excuse to becoming a villain and hurting other people, find strength and keep spread love, whatever it takes
Nah the world will spit in your face for trying to spread love.
Idealistic tripe. Gain some life experience before you run your hole about something you obviously have never been subjected to.
@@hayatefaith4273this!
@@hayatefaith4273 yoi were there? Lol
@@voradorhylden3410 where? Earth?
Every single person on Earth has a before and after phase of life. Sometimes it's about a relationship. Sometimes its about becoming a parent. Sometimes its about war. Whatever it is, there is usually one big event in people's lives that changes them and they can't see life the same anymore. They become a different person after that. If you're lucky, you can fix the problems with your adjustment and become a better person. If you're not lucky, you become a really bad person who hurts people.
I hope this goes viral
BROOOO SHAGGY WHEN HES OFF THE WEED HES A GENIUS!!
good thing i never been a relationship and still a virgin
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Good for you. It ain't really anything special. But can have serious repercussions on you mentally. It feels very empty with someone you do not love, even worse after.
lucky
cope
It doesn’t really matter in the long run. Relationships are kind of meaningless to people who don’t relate to anyone. Plus most people are superficial, fake or do shit things to others while claiming themselves victims or self justified for it. Why have those headaches in your life and call it anything more than a burden? Its why life is more easier to deal with alone.
Thank you....this needed to be said I love Matthew Lillard bro
Velma's rejection is something Shaggy never really got over.
If your unlucky enough to be robbed, it is not conducive to think everyone you meet from that point on is a robber. Learn to discern good from bad, pearls from marbles, and you will be alright. You let the wrong one in, however it is prudential to still open the door so you can some day let the right one in. May anyone who has been abused be allowed to heal and grow, and may in the end they find the peace and happiness they seek.
Complete horseshet. Not even close to an appropriate analogy. You don't know the robber. You aren't intimate with the robber. You haven't invested in, trusted, and willingly shown the robber your vulnerabilities. They aren't the ones committing treason against you, betraying the trust and love you've built up for them because they're strangers. It is foolish to place your fate in the hands of people incentivized to use you as a resource AFTER gaining your trust and loyalty.
All your comment is boils down to trying to shame men into compliance so that the parasitic relationship between modern men and women continue in perpetuity.
@ricorosson5752 a perfect analogy, it is not, however the pain you hold blinds you to its wisdom, I do not shame the hurt, but offer them to put down that burden and look with eyes of discernment. If the person let in caused such pain then truly they were a stranger; no matter how much it felt as if they were known. Closing ourselves off because we were hurt does a far larger disservice to us then the risk of being hurt again, it may prevent more hurt but it also prevents anything good, and leads to the same bitterness you have come to me with, but I don't accept your bitterness, you may carry that burden if you wish, but know so long as you do, you will not find peace.
My message is that you have eyes to see, and reason to discern with, but that the pain you cling to is your choice, not once did i say you must be with anyone, only that closing off your heart makes finding someone worthy impossible. in fact my very last statement has no reference to any sort of relationship, it was that you may heal and grow from your past suffering so that you can find peace and happiness. I know not what that will manifest as for anyone, nor would I ever seek to limit anyone in the path they walk, I hold no judgement to those who seek companionship, or those who prefer solitude, my hope is that All may find Peace and Happiness.
@@metalmanexetreme You're responding to nothing. Notice how youtube has deleted my comment? You're making a whole loft of assumptions about me, and you're denying reality to boot. Keep going though, makes you look more foolish than you already are ^.^
No. Being alone isn't bad, and it's NOT a disservice to yourself or anyone else. The only people that say that are those that want the grift to continue and demand that men stay on the plantation. Not gonna happen, sunshine. Get your head out from betwixt your lower cheeks if you want to talk with the adults. Life isn't a disney fairytale, and that is a fact.
The fucking difference is that you most likely didn't know the robber. You know the cheater, you know them too damn well. What happens if that person is your parent? Someone who is supposed to love you unconditionally, someone you look to protect you from strangers? Pos women don't exclusively come from romantic relationships, plenty come from parental relationships.
It took SO long to get over my first girlfriend breaking my heart. I was lucky enough to not go down a very dark path. Now I’m married to the woman of my dreams. I hope everyone else who’s been hurt by that girl, also finds that amazing one that puts those pieces back together.
Shaggy was used to dealing with ghosts every now and then. But there are limits.He only became toxic after the thirteenth ghost.. there is only so many times you can be "ghosted" before it changes you.
This semi cryptic stuff isnt for everyone. Tap that below if you got it.
This is right at the top of the "deep for a 12 year old" list.
You really thought you were saying something.
@@n1nj4l1nkBrave comment for someone who "Explain Like I'm 5" applies to. OP was making something called a joke, based on the actor being Shaggy from the Live Action Scooby Doo movies. Scooby Doo is a children's mystery series, primarily in cartoon form where a group of teenagers hunt for "ghosts" (usually a guy dressed up in some Halloween costume) and occasionally real ghosts and monsters which is part of OP's joke. "Ghosting" is also a double entendre for cutting off a relationship abruptly without any conclusionary event such as a fight or an announcement of sorts and is the pun being made by OP.
And yes, this ridiculously verbose writing style is a form of sarcasm making fun of you and your reading comprehension or rather lack thereof.
@@1UpEXPOP also made a reference to the movie “Thirteen Ghosts”, which also starred Matthew Lillard, lmao.
@@xxsideouz8953 Scooby-Doo also had a series involving thirteen ghosts so it works on two levels
Villains weren't born, they're made by those they thought loved them
Can't blame anybody. We all play a part in perpetuating the problem. You're doing the same thing to an innocent girl that was done to u. The cycle of pain continues.
I think the cycle could stop if we stopped expecting one side to fix it because this is the same excuse women use for their hoe phase.🤷
I can, dude, my grandpa was abusive and yet my dad wasn't.
And I have had my heart torn out, and yet here I am, trying to be better and brave.
@@argiedude3762 Good for you, but the cycle doesn't stop at you does it? That's arrogance to think so, the cycle may slow for you and pick right back up again for any kids you have or God forbid any relatives.
I can
Or instead of becoming the player, some men decide to not play the game at all.
This is a conversation NOBODY is ever going to be ready to have, but that's why it exists, to remind you of reality and pull you out of your comfort zone in exchange for an understanding.
This had me feeling so many different ways. I love how the writers took you on a journey. Beautiful work. Beautiful.
There is more to life than wasting it on those who do not value you.
To sum it up, hurt people hurt people 😢
Not always, there are people who don’t wish to inflict the pain they experienced on others and through it learn how NOT to hurt people. We’ve all experienced hurt, but you can make the decision to be better.
@yellowblanka6058 i know but sometimes people are unable to do that and that cycle continues, I agree with you people are able to make better choices but sometimes people don't, guess it all depends sometimes u know
No matter how many times I hear him, I can never unhear Shaggy.
We can choose to rise above our circumstances no matter our past or what was done to us to be better people, or become just like the people who hurt us and become a part of the cycle. But we have no right to complain about the nature of the cycle of pain if we ourselves choose to be a part of it.
After 30 years I don't get laid unless I'm shitty. What does anybody expect?? I would be nice but nobody wants it
@@hayatefaith4273 your take is just as extreme as feminazi who say that all men are r@p1st. Both of you are the same. One of the problem is some people follow their emotion and tend to have extreme thought.
My husband was fine til we married, then turned toxic. I was faithful, happy, grateful to him for all he did for me. He would accuse me of things I wasn't doing. Treating me in ways suddenly that made no sense. Then I met his ex that he dated before me and it all clicked into place. She was a rough one. Kinda shocked she isn't in prison. It literally took 10 years before he finally started treating me right. We are doing pretty good now.
Fear? No, you learn what the game really is.
Aside from that tidbit, this is a great speech.
Behold absolute truth. In both it's glory and horror.
Shaggy is spitting facts
There is such a thing as letting someone down easy
Someone else in the comments put it simply, "Hurt people hurt people." So we, as people (not separated into men and women) need to do our best not to hurt others- or if we do, we need to find a way to fix it. It's a human problem.
I know I've certainly hurt someone. He hurt me, too, though unintentionally (I only realized it was unintentional afterwards- we were both only 15 at the time, and rather silly). I apologized and did my best to fix what I did. He forgave me and did his best as well. We were able to be friends later. I learned from my mistakes and haven't made them again.
If I hadn't self-reflected and put in the effort, he certainly could have been toxic going forward. It would have been his choice to respond to his pain in that manner, but I would still bear some blame. I could have chosen to be toxic, as well, if we hadn't worked it out. Thankfully I had good role models and knew that I had to make things right.
I was hurt again a few years back. He didn't mean to, I think, but that didn't make it any less painful. We didn't have a chance to resolve the issue. But I know that I have to deal with my pain myself, and not take it out on others. This hurt person won't hurt other people again. I learned my lesson a long time ago.
This wasn't acting. Not one bit. It's genuine truth from the heart.
Loneliness....
It's not a choice, it's a necessity.
- Me
This hit deep. I said the same thing. " I will never get my heart broken again."
From "Hack the Planet" to "Zoinks," shaggy has been through the ringer.
Don't forget 13 Ghosts
And William afton
What is the name of the movie?
The problem with the second half is that he only focused on men. That advice should be for both sides.
His friends call him out in the movie and yeah this whole channel is about how men are always right and women are always bad. I'm happy to see people finally breaking the brainwashing like you.
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 I mean you have channels that do the same for women. It makes perfect sense why this channel exists because it's not wrong, it's just only one half of the story. Think channels like this are the only thing keeping a lot of men from ending it because women generally hold the mass media and kind of give these issues no attention. That's the importance of holding both sides accountable to the same degree. The Yin creates reason for the yang to exist.
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 did you got triggered during the first part and did not watch the whole video? This video covers both sides of the coin.
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259I noticed that about tbis channel they don't really talk about the other side of it
@@BreakupBouncethis is is literally the only video where you do that.
He is not wrong
1. FACTS!
2. Cool! A Matthew Lillard movie I haven't seen. I'll check it out
What is the name of the movie?
@@RestyMervinPonioIt's in the video title. What Love Is 2007
@@form4li7y Thank you.
The grass is always greener when you water it, not abandon it.
Sometimes that woman can also be their mother... let that one sink in.
That’s sad and all, it REALLY is, but as a grown man, as a human being, I’m not gonna take my frustrations and trauma and repeat this trash & toxic cycle on a new woman that has done nothing to me.
W Take
Easy to say, sometimes trauma makes monsters, not an excuse for terrible behaviour but when you're told seeking help makes you weak you tend to stay messed up.
That is logical. It is just sad that logic is seldom part of the equation for many a heartbroken person.
@@antonakesson Yeah many hurt too much and far too many want to be a victim and play woe-is-me.
Fellas, speaking as a man who's faced my fair share of hurt and heart break, I feel it equally as important to balance this beam by mentioning that you are still responsible for your actions. Your broken heart might make commitment or emotional connection challenging. That is fair, and I'm sorry you're still hurting. But if you're one of the "MoSt RoMaNtIc Of ThEm AlL" and break hearts in turn for the fun of it, that is 100% on you. Only you can decide and act on what you want to do. The moment your emotions become decisions and actions, the ONLY person who can be held accountable for them is YOU, and not Stacy from the past.
Steve-o from SLC Punk after making it to Harvard. Punk rock. That’s punk rock. 🤘🏽
It's funnier when you think that people that realize this about each other a lot of the times end up together, and share their mutual dislike of people.
True. Me and my friends hate people too. It's really cathartic to just vent about how people just suck ass.
This film was released in March 2007; it's almost eighteen years later. But things have gotten worse considerably.
Ken (portrayed by Mars Callahan) may come off as too idealistic. His philosophy and methodology might have worked in the 20th century and maybe even in the 2000s if you were fortunate, but when the 2010s started, the game just took a nosedive for men. Sal (portrayed by Matthew Lillard) seems to be the kind of guy who is the lone survivor who was right all along with how things are going now. The game is clearly rigged, and men must take measures to protect themselves and put their interests first (unless children are involved). Now, so many guys don't even become "players or womanizers"; they never get involved with them because they never even get the chance, or men walk away. As a man in the English-speaking Developed World, it can be too risky to be romantically involved with a woman, and it's simply not worth it in many regards.
- divorce/marriage failure
- infidelity/promiscuity
- STDs/STIs
- misattributed paternity/paternity fraud
- false accusations/allegations
- domestic abuse
- weaponizing children against the father
- financial instability/ruin
- jeopardized mental health
- trust issues
- family court
I'm not saying we should give up entirely, but we must be aware of the glaring issues and risks and take proper precautions if we are to attempt an endeavor like this.
Excuse me? English speaking DEVELOPED world? Development is a constant thing, every country constantly develops, it’s just that the West is (currently) in the lead. You are incorrect about your use of the word developed in this case
I love that everyone in this clip is a little bit smart… but mostly idiots and it reads like a very natural “drunks pontificating like they’re scholars at the bar”
What gets me is most of the comments section nodding along like they're Plato, Aristotle, and Socrates.
That’s why it’s called invino veritas the ancient Persian when discussing philosophy or ethics even politics would first discuss the matter drunk then repeat the discussion sober if both discussions came to the same conclusion that was deemed to the correct course of action
@@vioveo7440what gets me is the people in complete denial of how true it is. This comment is the movie night edition of "attack" the person not the argument
first thing I thought when I saw the title was:
yep that's true, but it goes both ways, hurt people: hurt people.
2:00 I did that. My wife forgave me. I don't deserve that. What this guy is saying is 100% true.
Leave my wife out of this 😂😂😂
Matthew Lillard is a gem
either a toxic women will make a man toxic or a broken one
you normally see the actor for shaggy's part but the last part ...even more important
And now the sad thing is guys don’t even get a chance to have ‘the first’ one
Just talk to someone in public, you find atracktive, it will work someday, trust me. I am a 22 year old 60kg, 183 cm tall, guy. I look like a stick, I act like a child because I grew up without a father and I still got chances and let me tell you: in the end, when you fuck up, it's you who fucked up, not the situation you are in not, your abusive parents not you not having money or a car. In the end you have the control over everything. Don't let other people and espacially your self doubt take that away from you, otherwise you have already lost. Stay strong, try to improve yourself every single day, bit by bit, fail as much as you can and never stop learning from that
@@leonpreiler9995 - Spare us.
When one plays life on hardcore for next to nothing in return. While the other is on easy mode and acts so entitled. It shows then the game is broken.
So for all the agency we have as individuals, which yes can go a long way, it's despite operating in a broken game.
Yep and that's entirely their fault
@@leonpreiler9995 I half agree at most
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Man, I understand you are one of those who created your character with your own hands/will, but not everyone is born or becomes an Atlantean from Ayn Rand’s novel. The first thing we need is a stable economic and political situation in the countries of the first and second world, at least. So that places or clubs could appear where people could have similar statuses and not meetings of losers of different levels. Now the situation is similar to the interwar period with notes of the Weimar Republic in the heads of different people...
To summarize, a villain isn’t born but created. A person isn’t born a scumbag, life could make them a scumbag, just as how your not born knowing, your taught to know.
It isn’t right to say men are scumbags or that women are terrible because at the end of the day something made them that way in their life.
Truer words have never been spoke tbh.
🤔These Dudes is speaking facts!!
This aged perfectly. It’s only more true today than when he first said it.
His rant hit emotionally in the soft spot.
And Matt is right. Most men grow up being taught how to treat women, most women grow up being taught what to expect from men. A lot of guys get treated like sh*t because some girls have put up their walls to protect themselves, because too many other guys wanted them for their beauty. Guys have a lot to do with inflating girls' egos by throwing constant compliments and flirtations at them, but women also have a lot to do with men today choosing not to date anyone. Too much attitude and complaining from a girl drives a guy to his breaking point at times.
This hit extremely well. I wish the other two hadn't been trying so hard to be funny.
this vid makes me feel like i have a Dad again.
Shaggy Calm The Aura Down!!
Probably the most honest movie I've seen when it comes to Man/Woman dynamics. Where the first act is the guys, from all angles, the second are the women from all angles, then the third is the two groups together and the application of those angles.
Whether y'all love or hate this guy y'all gotta admit he's got a point y'all wouldn't believe me if I told ya'll how many good men I've seen give the best years of their life to a woman only for a woman to manipulate and take advantage of them I mean just think about it for a sec you guys these women wouldn't want us men to treat them like that so what gives them the right to treat us men like that I just can't help but curious🤨🤔🤨🤔
Great scene
Man’s life in one video 😩😩💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I think the reason that guys don't deal with breakups nearly as well as women, is because men don't have the support system that women usually do. Men, you need to step up and be there for your bros when they are going through a hard time. It's why the "male loneliness epidemic" is so bad. Because men aren't as emotionally available for their platonic friends.
I have my brother and brother in law, but I am severely lacking in both male and female personal friends who I can talk and hangout with. I guess I could try my coworkers at my job but I need way more. I’m a little bit of an introvert and I struggle with ADHD all my life.
Not fear. Realization, recovery, resentment, revenge. Also "we've all done it" is another fallacy. Some of us have morals, ethics, and willpower.
That man preaching
100% truth from being to end!
Getting your heart broken once doesn't excuse your behavior afterwards. It just kind of sounds like this guy never took responsibility for his own emotions and just pushed them on to everyone else instead of trying to heal. If you're a womanizer, it's not because someone hurt you, it's because someone hurt you and you chose to stay hurt.
Well same goes for the Women who created him. You immediately jumped on him being the problem but this is because both sides do the same thing. Its easy to say turn the other check hard to do and most people will chose revenge over forgiveness.
HE pointed out it was a vicious cycle. But it is a cycle, not just a one-sided demonization of men.
Ah yes, because a man is totally excused to be a monster because a woman broke up with him/divorced him or rejected him. Meanwhile women are seen as disposable commodities who lose value the second they show signs of aging beyond 18. Let's not forget that women were/are not seen as legally human throughout history. The modern west is an anomaly where women are granted basic human rights. Men lament that their adult human partner has a free will and can leave them. Meanwhile women have to live in constant fear of these unstable, repressed, violent brutes known as men. You guys are always reminding us that our rights can be stripped away at any moment, and yet I'm supposed to feel sorry for you?
3 year relationship, 3 years of healing after. Then a 1 year with another 3 years of reflection. Next relationship lasts a few months followed by 2 more years of trying to find a "different" type of women since it could be "who you choose".
If you think a dudes gonna sit there after 12 years of mostly healing and keep hurting himself playing the slow game you are out of your noggin. If treating women bad gets me laid in a week vs being nice taking months-years at a certain point fighting their system is just handicapping myself.
@boangherrazvan3977 I jumped on him being the problem because he is the problem. Why should other people get hurt because of his actions, just because someone hurt him first? All the other women have nothing to do with the first one.
I’ve done my fair share of bad things, but my very first girlfriend was with someone else and I found out and she broke up with me for it and ever since then trust hasn’t been the same for anyone
So CLOSE! So close to true understanding, then the other guy puts all the blame back on the men.
The difference between a man and a woman in the writers’ room.
I also feel this way about the first half. Like, they don't really address how this guy just placed the blame for his actions towards all women on the actions of one woman. The fact is both genders are capable of being awful towards each other.
@ then just like them, you’ve completely missed the point. So eager to place blame, you’ve limited your capability of self-reflection.
Thank you, feeling insane until this comment lmao. It's like people want it to be made "even" just to go "well both sides..." nope no, that's downplaying the entire issue.
@@hayatefaith4273 You are correct, it isn't an even issue... men by far cause more pain and heartache than women do. I honestly did not think men were even capable of love until I turned 21 and met 'the one'. Until I met his father, I did not even know men were capable of being the faithful ones. The pain and suffering they cause to women before they even reach 21 is incomprehensibly destructive to whole civilizations, but will whine and cry about the one woman he felt entitled to because she was, and I quote, "a sexy piece of ass" rejected him. If men want less toxic women, they should focus on stopping other men from creating them in the first place.
The fun part is after all 5 men give monologuing about their perspectives then the girls arrive and go to the bathroom where the conversations replay from the other side THEN the characters merge into a date movie😂
“When I was 16” can’t imagine carrying that pain for years you gotta let it go and just take it as a lesson it’s not all personal
Ain't how emotions work, bud.
It's not easy to forgive and forget. I still have a huge list and it keeps getting bigger.
Home did take it as a lesson. Just not the right one.
Shaggy is the smartest man on the planet after me.
Oof that beginning. Can just be lied to by someone pretending to be what they aren't while expecting you to act like what you aren't. Wish more healthy adults would just tell kids that passionate love will fail, while practical love will turn passionate because it creates an environment for it to thrive.
"Is the grass greener on the other side or did we just stop taking care of our own lawn"
The thing is if a guy cheats on you it is purely physical to us for women its emotional far worse if a woman does it then a man
There are studies out there conducted by actual psychologists (not ones you find on psychology today) that illustrate that men and women typically cheat for the same reasons: They feel lonely in the relationship that they are in.
This whole "Men cheat for pure physical reasons and women emotional" deal is pretty much BS. An argument can be made, however, that men are far more impulsive at infidelity than women because men will let that loneliness build and build and build until it just bursts one day whereas women will recognize it and go out seeking new companionship but not leave.
Fuk I though I was the only afraid of giving everything to fall in love of one girl again
But the writers were right on this one
If behind every toxic man is a toxic woman, and behind every toxic woman is likely a toxic man, where did it start? There must've been SOMEONE, man or woman, who was either just toxic for the sake of it because they're immature, or because issues from other points in their lives seeped through into their love life.
The reality is, it's not always a result of the cycle simply perpetuating itself, it's PEOPLE who perpetuate it. Whether they themselves are victims to said cycle or not. Break the cycle, be better, you don't have to perpetuate the problem just because you don't see a way out. Find your way out.
100% agree, one of my best friends is like this, he is a womanizer who pursues and sleeps with every girl he can find. But I watched him stop doing that for a year, because he was in love with a her, and she strung him along, and no matter how much we warned him she was using him he was to head over heels. Then she cheated on him with one of his best friends, and he was shattered. Since then he has doubled down on the ladies and has distanced himself from a lot of people, its really sad, I am one of the few people he still talks to but he doesn't open up as much as he used to.
That Awkward Moment is sooooo gooooood.
Honestly it is an all together sad moment in time. When the prospect of freedom is overshadowed by the absence of goodwill.
Honor.
It is such easy thing to say, much harder to live by. For with honor comes honesty, honesty begets courage, and with that courage the stoic ability that lies on all men to brave any storm that comes in his life. You can’t put it all on yourself though and sparing others the hard truths you yourself accept. But don’t be too giving either. Try and keep the balance o suppose.
❤❤❤
Take care of yourself and each other.
Well if that doesn’t hit the nail on the head i don’t know what will