For the $38k and 9 months spent at the reputable dealership/workshop, you would hope they picked up the transmission issue, the alarm, the mirrors, the rotors, the defective tyre and the list continues… 😅😅😅 Very informative video! Thanks for sharing!
This is a fantastic video for anyone considering an Arnage or any older Bentley/Rolls for that matter. I've spent the last 7 months sorting out a Continental R I recently purchased and can attest that if you are someone who wants everything up to snuff on these cars, you have to prepare for some serious expenditures. I do believe that using the dealer will push these costs even higher, but there's no escaping the cost of parts and extensive labor required to service. That said, once set up correctly, a Bentley really is a special experience and garners respect wherever you go. Can't wait for the followups!!
Don’t take this the wrong way, but you have more money than sense! Quick check on a few websites show as you could have bought a 50,000 mile Rolls-Royce Phantom with full dealer service history for less than you’ve paid for this. Although you have spent all this money on it I estimate it’s worth half of what you spent. You seem a really nice guy, but you really need to update your knowledge on mechanical things as I believe quite a bit of this work was probably not necessary. Going to a specialist dealer would’ve been immeasurably cheaper. I’m glad you’ve got what you want in the end.
Great video (amazing production values) and I am looking forward to watching the rest of the series. However, I can't believe you gave the Arnage to a Bentley main dealer to resolve the issues. Find yourself an independent Bentley specialist they will look after you better and charge you considerably less than the stealership. Plus Bentley independents are usually set up by ex Bentley main agent staff so they will have the experience and expertise to work on the older cars. None of the issues you listed are major issues and thus are relatively simple to resolve. I work on my own Aston Martin and I have done many of the jobs on your list myself, including rebuilding transmission valve blocks (though not on the Aston). I really enjoy getting the spanners out and its a great way to really bond with your car.
Dear arnage owner, I had the pleasure of 8 years ownership of a 2001 arnage rl in Hong Kong. My service range was very similiar to yours plus I had to replace the head gaskets plus pipes etc . I didn’t have to remove the transmission. This bentley model is the coolest I think and even Ms Yoko Lennon has one. Terry Chan
How you have not just walked away is a testament to the love you have for this car !!! Why did you not consider- 1 one from a person whom you could get tested ? Were you that in love with this color combo ? 2- would you have still go all in at the front knowing the $100k total at the end ? 3- did you consider a Privte shop with hourly rates less than the half $350 at the dealer ? Great video and thank you
You also mentioned the Airbag warning lamp. It´s the same as with my ´05 Arnage R. But you did´t follow up this fault in detail. What work has been done to fix this problem? Actually, what was the problem of it?
Yep for rich stupid people this seems like a great deal.. LMAO. Instead how about a regular joe buys one and maintains it reasonably and with some “very rare to find these days” common sense!!!...
I absolutely agree- main dealerships are ludicrously overpriced, those lists of items should have been £5,000 max, and listening to that overpaid dealership guy, he clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about! They saw u coming a mile off dude, and they are laughing all the way to the bank! The moral of this story is NEVER take a car that’s out of manufacturers warranty to a main dealership- they are crap, they overcharge massively for anything & everything, and they are likely to have a 17 year old apprentice with zero experience working on it out of customer sight. I’m afraid that absolutely ridiculous bill you paid those jokers will have helped a great deal to finance the ‘executive’ salaries they are paying people like that bozo on your video. FIND A PROPER INDEPENDENT RR/B SPECIALIST- never use main dealership charlatans like these idiots.
great video really enjoyed it but being a Bentley Arnage owner I would have never spent that money on the car.......list of works unfortunately all very normal for these cars but ridiculous labour cost using an official dealer.....enjoy the car!
This is scary because most folks who buy these will do so without this expectation. I've learned that any older luxury car is likely to require a large cash outlay to bring it up to snuff. However, is this degree of expense normal for pre-owned Bentleys?
From what I've come to learn, this is not unusual for those who want to own a car of this caliber, but don't have the mechanical skills or facilities to to it themselves. If I had to do it all over again, I would have preferred to buy a car that had been refreshed (as I did) vs one that needed an unknown amount of work.
People know how these are unreliable, money pits. I guess some people didn't get the memo. I saw a listing for a similar aged Rolls with over £75,000 worth of repair bills. I spent a week with a Rolls/Bentley restorer, and I know the amounts that await people in terms of the crippling financial obligations to keep these things on the road. It's horrific.
@@juststuff5216 Actually, this is only the case for a car that has not been maintained. All of this video producer’s expenses are related to past poor maintenance and unnecessary upgrades he wanted. I owned an Arnage from new and maintained it perfectly for 13 years. The second owner has owned it another five years and recently told me he’s only spent oil and fuel since he bought it from me.
@@LWVH81 Sorry, that wasn't what I experienced, and it certainly wasn't the experience expressed my restorer friend either. Owning two isn't really a fair comparison against someone who has worked on them day in day out for over 35 years, with the variations in models. Big bills are coming regardless!
I absolutely love the shape of the Arnage. Automotive art. However, having owned both the RR engine model and the BMW engine model, I would only buy a 4.4L BMW unit. Ironically the cheapest model, and the least produced, but far moire reliable. Whichever one you buy, do your research and you won't be disappointed. Don't, and you could well end up bankrupt...
Just checking in, how has it been going with the Arnage. I just took the plunge myself on a 2009 R. P.S. I have very similar interior specs...did you do anything with floor mats??
Well. Honestly. This man overpaid big time for a very very very poor example. Full history is a must. Cars at these pricepoints attract wannabe posers who want to drive this to pretend to be big even though they dont have the money to maintain it. These cars get so much abuse that way. You dont buy one at auction, with no history, with no knowledge of previous owner(s), for 42k 😂
Well Sir , you have excelent taste ! The Arnage is probably the last real Bentley , it hass that oldfashioned regal elegance and stance . The interrior is the pinnacle of taste and style . I am financialy not capable to own such a gem , so I bought a Rover 75 , some 5 years ago , a " poor mans Bentley " .
I was seriously thinking about buying an Arnage before seeing this video. Not any more ! I have had three Chrysler 300 crds (all with the Mercedes engine) and would strongly recommend that model to anyone looking for a big car offering 'presence' at great value for money, The car is often admired by strangers and looks and drives beautifully at 110k miles and 16 years of age. Servicing and the occasional repair all carried out at sensible prices by an independent garage with experience of Chrysler 300s.
don’t let this discourage you, those are fantastic cars , he just went the wrong way about it … first he bought the car without even looking at it , and checking it out throughly, and then he took it to a Bentley dealer giving him a blank check to fix everything needs fixing … so he got ripped off… he should’ve paid Bentley mechanic to check the car and go through it before buying it , and also find a good independent shop to fix the car up … but it seems that he is financially fit to finance all the work , which is awesome … bad thing is he won’t be able to recover a fraction of what he invested in it , if he decides to sell … but he may be living in $5.000.000 home and on $250.000 monthly income, we don’t know , in that case he doesn’t care , he got the car he always wanted , and the car that brings him a lots of joy , and that is all that counts at the end … good for him , car is happy , it is back in tip top condition , and he is happy owning it … we only go around once, make it worth
Dude you paid 42k for a Bentley Arnage with zero history? The previous owner couldnt believe his luck for sure. I looked at an Arnage yesterday here in the Netherlands, and it costs €28600. With full history available
Why is it that USA auctioneers seem to think that they all have to speak like demented turkeys, completely unintelligible to someone watching or actually there? Taking bids off the wall or talking up the price. I have no idea at the end how much the owner paid.
@@TheGadgetGuru I agree. I've purchased three Range Rover Sport models over the past 7 years. All were used, so upon purchase I immediately dropped each one off at my local Jag/Rover dealership and told the service advisor not to rush, but fix everything they found. I think that's best when buying used vehicles, especially since I don't buy warranties. Great video series 👍.
@@carycoller3140 Part two was just posted yesterday. I'll guess I'm a couple of weeks away from completing the third and final chapter of this series. However, if you have any questions, feel free to post them here.
I think the dealership saw a mug walking into the showroom Find yourself a good independent or learn how to do shit yourself Running older prestige motor means getting your hands dirty, otherwise $$$$$$
Wow. I was in the market until I watched this. You’re really all in at 90k. They are getting old as they approach 20 years. You better have deep pockets when you take on a project like this.
This video should be called "what not to do when buying an Arnage" 😅 unreal the amount you forked over to that dealership. You could have put an independent shop owners kids through college instead.
They’re fun and cheap to buy !! but horrible to own. I had a silver shadow, gorgeous, gorgeous car!!! I was so happy when I bought it and happy when I sold it a money money pit!
Complete Bullish!t... This video is how to own an Arnage if you are F ing rich!!... You could have saved thousands going to a independent shop or doing it yourself,
Don't buy sight unseen. Don't ɓuy without an engineer (not just a mechanic) to fully examine every part of the car inc: inner sills, inside gearbox and engine with endoscopic equipment with photographic report. 600 for a day's work to ĝet engineers report. If the Gentleman here, had known in advance, all the costs to fix these things, would he have looked for another car?? I would have left it and thanked my engineer, as I did almost buying an immaculate inside and out, Daimler Sovereign V8 & W12 cylinder models (The luxury brand owned by Jaguar two years ago. Buying price and final cost is vital to-do we'll. Buying at an auction. If they won't allow tests before you bid, walk away. Once you've had to pay for correction ŵork on top of RRSP, the former can never be re-cooped. Leave nothing to chance. Secure an Engineers report anytime you buy and enjoy the peace of mind that comes, knowing your paying a fair price, for your car and that you will know what might need to be worked om on the interim phase Happy motoring, Fergus
An excellent video. You have cured me of my lust for an older Arnage at a reasonable price.
Fr. I would like a Bentley body on my 99 Camry
For the $38k and 9 months spent at the reputable dealership/workshop, you would hope they picked up the transmission issue, the alarm, the mirrors, the rotors, the defective tyre and the list continues… 😅😅😅
Very informative video! Thanks for sharing!
This is a fantastic video for anyone considering an Arnage or any older Bentley/Rolls for that matter. I've spent the last 7 months sorting out a Continental R I recently purchased and can attest that if you are someone who wants everything up to snuff on these cars, you have to prepare for some serious expenditures. I do believe that using the dealer will push these costs even higher, but there's no escaping the cost of parts and extensive labor required to service. That said, once set up correctly, a Bentley really is a special experience and garners respect wherever you go. Can't wait for the followups!!
Thank you! Part two should be posted in the next day or so.
@@TheGadgetGuru just want to tell you that got hosed and ass raped by going to the dealership. Dumb as fuck.
What you are describing here is exactly what to expect: These cars are very very very expensive to own. Thanks for sharing your experience!
It would have been simpler to say;
"The local Bentley dealer, saw me coming!" 🤑🤪😜😆🤣
Great video Andy! I would love to see you do this format with an older Prevost Bus 🌴😎
Don’t take this the wrong way, but you have more money than sense! Quick check on a few websites show as you could have bought a 50,000 mile Rolls-Royce Phantom with full dealer service history for less than you’ve paid for this. Although you have spent all this money on it I estimate it’s worth half of what you spent. You seem a really nice guy, but you really need to update your knowledge on mechanical things as I believe quite a bit of this work was probably not necessary. Going to a specialist dealer would’ve been immeasurably cheaper. I’m glad you’ve got what you want in the end.
Great video (amazing production values) and I am looking forward to watching the rest of the series. However, I can't believe you gave the Arnage to a Bentley main dealer to resolve the issues. Find yourself an independent Bentley specialist they will look after you better and charge you considerably less than the stealership. Plus Bentley independents are usually set up by ex Bentley main agent staff so they will have the experience and expertise to work on the older cars. None of the issues you listed are major issues and thus are relatively simple to resolve. I work on my own Aston Martin and I have done many of the jobs on your list myself, including rebuilding transmission valve blocks (though not on the Aston). I really enjoy getting the spanners out and its a great way to really bond with your car.
Thank you for making this video - you saved me $90,000!
Dear arnage owner, I had the pleasure of 8 years ownership of a 2001 arnage rl in Hong Kong. My service range was very similiar to yours plus I had to replace the head gaskets plus pipes etc . I didn’t have to remove the transmission. This bentley model is the coolest I think and even Ms Yoko Lennon has one. Terry Chan
38k?
Big fucking ouch.
Love these old cars, but no desire to go broke owning one.
why did yo not go to a independent bentley specialist ?
Hindsight is always 20/20
@@TheGadgetGuru it is a great car, congrats . hope you were sitting down when you got the bills though
How you have not just walked away is a testament to the love you have for this car !!!
Why did you not consider-
1 one from a person whom you could get tested ? Were you that in love with this color combo ?
2- would you have still go all in at the front knowing the $100k total at the end ?
3- did you consider a Privte shop with hourly rates less than the half $350 at the dealer ?
Great video and thank you
I appreciate the insights on how to patiently shop for a Luxury dream car.
Thank you! It's been quite an adventure.
You also mentioned the Airbag warning lamp. It´s the same as with my ´05 Arnage R. But you did´t follow up this fault in detail. What work has been done to fix this problem? Actually, what was the problem of it?
I luv to see someone keep these beautiful machines on the road
Good to see someone looking at enjoyment of life not end of life
Nice! I have a white on tan Arnage as well. Yours looks great! Ill be following along!
Where do you get the wood trim serviced?
38k for that is an absurd ripoff
No, there was also a second round of fixing costing additional $6K, so the total for sorting it out exceeded $44K 😮
Yep for rich stupid people this seems like a great deal.. LMAO. Instead how about a regular joe buys one and maintains it reasonably and with some “very rare to find these days” common sense!!!...
I absolutely agree- main dealerships are ludicrously overpriced, those lists of items should have been £5,000 max, and listening to that overpaid dealership guy, he clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about! They saw u coming a mile off dude, and they are laughing all the way to the bank! The moral of this story is NEVER take a car that’s out of manufacturers warranty to a main dealership- they are crap, they overcharge massively for anything & everything, and they are likely to have a 17 year old apprentice with zero experience working on it out of customer sight. I’m afraid that absolutely ridiculous bill you paid those jokers will have helped a great deal to finance the ‘executive’ salaries they are paying people like that bozo on your video.
FIND A PROPER INDEPENDENT RR/B SPECIALIST- never use main dealership charlatans like these idiots.
more than happy with my 1995 Mercedes-Benz D300, 299,000 miles and runs flawlessly
great video really enjoyed it but being a Bentley Arnage owner I would have never spent that money on the car.......list of works unfortunately all very normal for these cars but ridiculous labour cost using an official dealer.....enjoy the car!
You lost me at "my assistant". 😂
This is scary because most folks who buy these will do so without this expectation. I've learned that any older luxury car is likely to require a large cash outlay to bring it up to snuff. However, is this degree of expense normal for pre-owned Bentleys?
From what I've come to learn, this is not unusual for those who want to own a car of this caliber, but don't have the mechanical skills or facilities to to it themselves. If I had to do it all over again, I would have preferred to buy a car that had been refreshed (as I did) vs one that needed an unknown amount of work.
@@TheGadgetGuruwhy do you think everyone was telling you to do this? Like you mentioned in the beginning of the video?
You need to rename this car “Carnage”
People know how these are unreliable, money pits. I guess some people didn't get the memo.
I saw a listing for a similar aged Rolls with over £75,000 worth of repair bills.
I spent a week with a Rolls/Bentley restorer, and I know the amounts that await people in terms of the crippling financial obligations to keep these things on the road. It's horrific.
@@juststuff5216 Actually, this is only the case for a car that has not been maintained. All of this video producer’s expenses are related to past poor maintenance and unnecessary upgrades he wanted. I owned an Arnage from new and maintained it perfectly for 13 years. The second owner has owned it another five years and recently told me he’s only spent oil and fuel since he bought it from me.
@@LWVH81 Sorry, that wasn't what I experienced, and it certainly wasn't the experience expressed my restorer friend either. Owning two isn't really a fair comparison against someone who has worked on them day in day out for over 35 years, with the variations in models.
Big bills are coming regardless!
I absolutely love the shape of the Arnage. Automotive art.
However, having owned both the RR engine model and the BMW engine model, I would only buy a 4.4L BMW unit. Ironically the cheapest model, and the least produced, but far moire reliable.
Whichever one you buy, do your research and you won't be disappointed. Don't, and you could well end up bankrupt...
Just checking in, how has it been going with the Arnage. I just took the plunge myself on a 2009 R. P.S. I have very similar interior specs...did you do anything with floor mats??
Well... I no longer wish to have a Bentley. Lexus will do just fine.
Yes, this is a horror story.
Next time this car sells, it will be like 22-27k at best.
Lexus IS far superior. Jaguar as well.
Well. Honestly. This man overpaid big time for a very very very poor example.
Full history is a must. Cars at these pricepoints attract wannabe posers who want to drive this to pretend to be big even though they dont have the money to maintain it.
These cars get so much abuse that way. You dont buy one at auction, with no history, with no knowledge of previous owner(s), for 42k 😂
@@sprezzatura8755jaguar is trash 🗑️
Why did you not just bring it to an independent repair shop
The initial quote from the service department at that Bentley dealer was straight-up highway robbery.
Well Sir , you have excelent taste !
The Arnage is probably the last real Bentley , it hass that oldfashioned regal elegance and stance .
The interrior is the pinnacle of taste and style .
I am financialy not capable to own such a gem , so I bought a Rover 75 , some 5 years ago , a " poor mans Bentley " .
Yeah, just try to buy a transmission actuator.
Always be prepared to pay for repair the same amount as the sale price of the car.
I was seriously thinking about buying an Arnage before seeing this video. Not any more !
I have had three Chrysler 300 crds (all with the Mercedes engine) and would strongly recommend that model to anyone looking for a big car offering 'presence' at great value for money, The car is often admired by strangers and looks and drives beautifully at 110k miles and 16 years of age. Servicing and the occasional repair all carried out at sensible prices by an independent garage with experience of Chrysler 300s.
don’t let this discourage you, those are fantastic cars , he just went the wrong way about it … first he bought the car without even looking at it , and checking it out throughly, and then he took it to a Bentley dealer giving him a blank check to fix everything needs fixing … so he got ripped off… he should’ve paid Bentley mechanic to check the car and go through it before buying it , and also find a good independent shop to fix the car up … but it seems that he is financially fit to finance all the work , which is awesome … bad thing is he won’t be able to recover a fraction of what he invested in it , if he decides to sell … but he may be living in $5.000.000 home and on $250.000 monthly income, we don’t know , in that case he doesn’t care , he got the car he always wanted , and the car that brings him a lots of joy , and that is all that counts at the end … good for him , car is happy , it is back in tip top condition , and he is happy owning it … we only go around once, make it worth
my dream of buying an Arnage just vanished
Dude you paid 42k for a Bentley Arnage with zero history? The previous owner couldnt believe his luck for sure.
I looked at an Arnage yesterday here in the Netherlands, and it costs €28600. With full history available
Why is it that USA auctioneers seem to think that they all have to speak like demented turkeys, completely unintelligible to someone watching or actually there? Taking bids off the wall or talking up the price. I have no idea at the end how much the owner paid.
You're a patient man.
As I said, I'd rather get it right than fast.
@@TheGadgetGuru I agree. I've purchased three Range Rover Sport models over the past 7 years. All were used, so upon purchase I immediately dropped each one off at my local Jag/Rover dealership and told the service advisor not to rush, but fix everything they found. I think that's best when buying used vehicles, especially since I don't buy warranties.
Great video series 👍.
I can't find Part 3.
@@carycoller3140 Part two was just posted yesterday. I'll guess I'm a couple of weeks away from completing the third and final chapter of this series. However, if you have any questions, feel free to post them here.
@@TheGadgetGuru In standing by patiently awaiting part 3.
Great video I’m looking forward to the next part
THIS IS SUCH A GREAT VIDEO ! YOU HAVE SUCH A GREAT ATTITUDE !
MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN MAD AS F**K OVER THESE REPAIRS & EXPENSES !
I think the dealership saw a mug walking into the showroom
Find yourself a good independent or learn how to do shit yourself
Running older prestige motor means getting your hands dirty, otherwise $$$$$$
Look at the service manager at the end he can't help but smirk the entire time when talking about how much they fixed on this car 😂
Having a sense of humor sure helps. (Don't kick the tires). :-))))). :-)))))
Wow. I was in the market until I watched this. You’re really all in at 90k. They are getting old as they approach 20 years. You better have deep pockets when you take on a project like this.
So u put 50 k in a $30,000 car that u paid 42k for? Could of bought a older ghost for less an have no issues at all
My god I was about to buy a 2004 for ~30k as a daily cruiser, expected to spend 15k on repair, thank god I didn’t!
My take away from this is
If you have deep pockets,you too can spend circa$100'000 to own a solid $60'000 arnage😳
lovely man
Benefit of dealing with a Bentley dealer is paying $40.000 for $5.000 job …
a brand new trans would have been cheaper
They saw you coming an took advantage 😂😂😂
I guess I’ll get a equuis
This video should be called "what not to do when buying an Arnage" 😅 unreal the amount you forked over to that dealership. You could have put an independent shop owners kids through college instead.
If you’re gonna do it, do it right !
Sir $38k for repairs is a complete ripoff I’m sure a independent would have charged you less then half
It was 90k😂
They’re fun and cheap to buy !! but horrible to own. I had a silver shadow, gorgeous, gorgeous car!!! I was so happy when I bought it and happy when I sold it a money money pit!
Basically, you need to be very rich to own one.
Sounds like a horror story. Paid $36k for the car and... $38k in repairs?? Get out of here!
Complete Bullish!t... This video is how to own an Arnage if you are F ing rich!!... You could have saved thousands going to a independent shop or doing it yourself,
Unbelievable. The worst ever advertisement for the Arnage. How to spend nearly100k for a 2005 Arnage nobody have cared for.
amazing i guess its all a tax deduction
What do you need to know? Simple .... don't do it!
This is silly.
blah blah blah....🤭
Don't buy sight unseen. Don't ɓuy without an engineer (not just a mechanic) to fully examine every part of the car inc: inner sills, inside gearbox and engine with endoscopic equipment with photographic report. 600 for a day's work to ĝet engineers report. If the Gentleman here, had known in advance, all the costs to fix these things, would he have looked for another car?? I would have left it and thanked my engineer, as I did almost buying an immaculate inside and out, Daimler Sovereign V8 & W12 cylinder models (The luxury brand owned by Jaguar two years ago. Buying price and final cost is vital to-do we'll. Buying at an auction. If they won't allow tests before you bid, walk away. Once you've had to pay for correction ŵork on top of RRSP, the former can never be re-cooped. Leave nothing to chance. Secure an Engineers report anytime you buy and enjoy the peace of mind that comes, knowing your paying a fair price, for your car and that you will know what might need to be worked om on the interim phase
Happy motoring,
Fergus