Why did the Weimar Republic Fail? (Short Animated Documentary)
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History Matters: "Mister Moustache"
TH-cam demonetization algorithm: "Outstanding move"
666th like
The comment above this is literally the same
😂😂😂😂
How is it you can’t say “H__ler,” but you can say “Stalin?”
@@HVACSoldier well Mr H really racked up the numbers in his relatively short term in power. Stalin was around for longer so was more of a "slow burn" the sharper shock sticks in the mind of people more. That and the way S is treated in history books is rather better than he deserves.
But where's James Bisonnete
3:37 here
lol
Third to last name, I believe.
@@PROsto100ful Yeah but where's the Flash dude then? :(
What happened to my boi David Archaeologist?
Everyone is a millionaire!
- Germany, 1923
Every man a king
"If everyone's super, no one will be"
EVERY KING A FISH
Yet some politicians still trot it out to idiotic voters ignorant of history.
2 Bratwurst in every pot!
The fact you have to say "Mr. Moustache" instead of a person's s ACTUAL NAME in a history related video shows how messed up TH-cam has become as a concept, let alone a business.
herrzimm the problem is the preferences of advertisers. Most don’t want to be associated with the unpleasantnesses in human history.
TH-cam should create a “history” category of ad spaces to sell to travel companies, film studios, and video game companies.
Andrew Farrell exactly
@@armorsmith43- The ads not wanting to be associated with something still shows the fact that TH-cam is messed up as a business model if you have to avoid using a real person's NAME.
The "why" no longer matters if you have to avoid saying the NAME of a person who did a thing or else you will be punished. And the arguement that it is because of the ads doesn't hold up when you consider the fact the same companies will buy ad-time on TV where They will dedicate an entire episode talking about the same person and use their name at least 30-40 times in an hour. But TH-cam won't let you say that name once in a 4min video.
Everything is screwed up when the ADL types run things.
I wonder if that's why everything is screwed up right now? 🤔🤔
@@grangermontag1824 The problem is that TH-cam's algorithm sucks... don't really see what the Anti-Defamation League has to do with it
History Matters: “Mr Moostache”
TH-cam demontization algorithm: Clever girl
why's that?
@@herrsan
His video would be demonitized if it included the name Hitler.
Mr. Mustache and “you know who”.
@feste he did say third Reich... and you said Hitler
And I said Hitler!
Twice!!
damn, he may be demonitised
The work of the Jew.
"Mr Moustache"
I see the new line of "Mr Men" books has been published....
I doubt that would be permitted, given who Mr Moustache is intended to be. Good joke, though.
@@arandomyoutubeaccount3166 I think you didn't get the joke.
Next we've got:
Mr Bald
Mr Asia
Mr Also There
@@anttibjorklund1869
Of course I got the joke. I was making my own joke about how here Mr Moustache = Hitler.
I don’t remember reading about this “Mr. Moustache” in my history books.
neither can i
@Mohammed Abdullah Did he painted everybody with a moustache ?
@Aggressive Tubesock r/wooosh
@Aggressive Tubesock bruh
@Aggressive Tubesock something came in the mail today
Two corrections: The republic was not declared in Weimar, that happened in Berlin.
It’s called Weimar republic because that‘s where the constitution was written
There are more mistakes in the video, for example the Kaiser never intended to abdicate and he didn't flee the country, he was in the military HQ in Belgium so he was already outside of Germany.
@@mikaelb.2070 What he probably meant was that Wilhelm was forced to also abdicate as the King of Prussia and left because of the revolutionaries
Mr. mustache
TH-cam: hey that sounds family friendly.
Also TH-cam: now let’s spin the wheel of chance to see if get monetized
Even though i dont upload videos its so true it hurts. Wtf are they doing there..
that's me
History matters has mention hitler name in orther vídeos. Besides he loves making fun of his moustache, check out his video about the annexation of austria 1938
If they/he were to properly spell it monetised, then it of course would get demonetised.
Why would they demonetize a video about Super Mario?
One of the many factors is that no-one, not even its own officials, really felt that the government created by the 1918 revolution and abdication was legitimate.
Officials: How are we still in business? How are the people listening to us? Wtf is wrong
That is an overstatement, most citizens and offivials not only felt it was legitimate, but liked democracy better than monarchy. It would be more truthful saying that to large an amount of citizens and even some officials were antidemocratic, notably the last president Hindenburg.
@@Tigerfox_ That's on democratic propaganda.
No it`s not, it is the current consensus of german historical science and thus what I teach in school.
@@Tigerfox_ Eh, but schools are just indoctrination machines for the state, so that really doesn't say much.
"I want to feed my kids."
Hyperinflation: I'm gunna stop you right there.
My teacher in elementary school said, that one of his ancestors worked voluntarily in church as boy. One day, the priest rewarded them by giving them a huge pile of money. He was super happy, until his parents told him, that it was worthless.
Feed them the money
@@user-xb9yv2ci4c oh damn
I know its a joke, but I have to correct you a little:
It was not the Hyperinflation that triggered the economic crisis of the Weimar Republic but actually the Deflation of the late 20s and early 30s.
The conservative government, being shocked by the Great Depression and remembering the hyperinflation opted to save money during the crisis, which absolutely killed the economy.
So, in the end, the money printer wasn't the problem, but rather not using it at the right time.
Mr.Moustache
*How to avoid demonitisation 101*
I also like it when the TH-cam symbol is put in place of the "nasty thing" on German armbands and flags of the later 30s & early 40s.
is demonitasation a process through which one becomes a demon?
Chaplin lookalike.
Don't anger the ADL
@@firstcynic92 "nasty thing" How dare you insult the symbol of my god. The darn chrystians have already done enough to harm my religion but now you even atribute my faiths simbols to them, unbalievable
Fun fact: the Federal Republic of Germany today has most of its foundings and even it's constitution almost identical to the Weimarer Republik, just a bit tweaked and polished up after Mr. Mustache showed how to exploit it. For it's time it was pretty impressive.
Something's wrong, I can feel it.
I like the constitution demanding armed revolt in the face of a totalitarian rise
If it's "its foundings" it's also "its* constitution" and "its* time". (It's = "it is" and nothing else!)
@@AgentTasmania yep! Germanys constitution allows democracy to be defended under all costs. So if some new Mustache Man shows up, it's a bullet in his skull for him.
@@einundsiebenziger5488 settle down/
I can't help but notice a single important detail here.......
Yep
Mr. Moustache: **exists**
Weimar Republic: *_"Why do i hear Boss Music?!"_*
Why do I here Wagner?
You, sir, win an internet.
Literally
Weimar couldn't have given Funny mustache man a better chance at being *voted* into power even if it tried
Adolf Hitl- I mean Mr. Moostache
TH-cam algorithim: Mission failed, we'll get 'em next time
😂😂
Why do I read it with gohsts voice?
When you said Mr. Moustache, I just died laughing. What a clever way to call Hitler
Last time I was this early
Ten minute history promised a "times I screwed up my narration" montage
Ever heard of the "Dolchstosslegende" (Stab-in-the-back myth)? It cant be overstated how big its impact was...
It's crazy that in my school we only scratched the surface. Only years later I learn how much this conspiracy theory impacted the citizens
@@muffinfighter3680 And now I have a new weapon to use against conspiretards: "If you believe conspiracy theories are true, you think like a Nazi!"
@@muffinfighter3680 I wouldn’t call it a conspiracy just a result of typical war time censorship, especially since the front lines ended in enemy territory and oh yeah they won the war in the east
“Myth”
@@bruhbruh-us6gl Yes, it was a myth. Also, claiming that Jewish people were strong enough to end the German Empire really says a lot about the "master race", doesn't it?
Can we take a moment to appreciate how well he explained how the Weimar republic failed so simply in just a 3 minute and 40 second video? Not just appreciate how well he said "Mr Mustache"
No, we can't, because it only fitted into 3 minutes 40 seconds because it was oversimplified to much.
@@Tigerfox_ Yeah true.
see my comment above/below
Did you ever check which books they were burning?
Remarques' books were burnt for being anti-war, if you want to continue defending those thugs
“Mr Moostache”
Help
Should depict Mr. Moustache with the G logo in his arm band.
Should depict him with the TH-cam logo.
Liamjm
Alternate History hub already do it
@@nickhueper2906 Everyone needs to do it.
@@liamjm9278 Amen to that. Facebook users should do then same 3:-) .
Wokeness at its worst. Depicting the Hakenkreuz isn't advocating for it.
If anyone wants more details, "The Coming of the Third Reich" by Richard J Evans is an approachable book by an excellent historian for a historical glimpse into the everyday life of different Germans in the Weimar Republic and how this led to its downfall in detail. It has 2 sequels, surprise.
Mr. Moustache is my favourite anime character
It's my most hated
@@cheems4061 maybe mr. moustache is a really nice guy, he could of just been confused with the austrian leader in ww2 who was leader in 1933 and was a dictator.
In history, anything that wasn't concrete enough, fails.
Aka, everything fails.
Excuse me, what do you mean by "wasn't concrete enough"?
@@maxx1014 and another wehraboo...
You mean Roman concrete?
@@maxx1014 I think he means article 48 of the Weimarer constitution which was called the Notverordnung. It allowed the Reichspresident to rule without consent of the parliament in times of "emergency". That is also why the President of Germany was called "Ersatzkaiser" (Replacement-Emporer).
Weimar Republic: **fails miserably**
*This enraged Mr. Moustache, who punished Republic severely*
... which led into the more economic downturn...
Edit: this chain has to be continued.
...which enraged Hjalmar Schacht, who punished the banks severely...
Punishing severely? There's a tax for that.
@@cossih7548 Taxation for taxation, huh?! TO THE GUILLOTINE!!
@@arandomyoutubeaccount3166 oHoHnOOnonO
lol i like how big tech has gotten so bad that history channels aren't allowed to mention naughty historical figures anymore without giving them funny cute nicknames
because that won't have any disastrous unintended consequences in a generation or two
it's already happening, run!
To be fair TH-cam itself doesn't have a choice, if most advertisers deem it inappropriate to advertise their product on a historical video, TH-cam can't exactly force them
it really won't
@@MCTogs nice try $h¡ll
@@MCTogsblame the race/gender commies ruining everything for everyone
From what I understand of history, Germany wasn't guilty of causing WWI any more than Britain and France were guilty of causing WWII by "joining" their ally Poland in war. Germany, in WWI, was allied to Austria-Hungary, so when they declared war, Germany was bound to join them. When Poland was threatened by Germany, Britain and France "declared war" on Germany, though did absolutely nothing to stop them. Britain and France abandoned Poland but remained at war with Germany.
And to be fair, the treaty of Versailles was absolutely and wholly unjust, punishing Germany (and Austria-Hungary) for the war in a way that completely destroyed their economy to the point of ruin, and even removed the German monarch, causing the instability that led to the Weimar Republic. I'm not sure what the Western Powers hoped to accomplish by destroying the German state (by the way Germany wasn't even invited to the peace negotiations in WWI), but it's not surprising to me that extremism took hold. Germans were impoverished, starving, and desperate following the "Great War." Any people in such a situation would be looking not only for someone to blame, but for a solution. All the events that followed, whether intended or not, are as much the fault of the Western Allies as they are the Nazi Party. The Nazi's wouldn't have existed except for the injustices done to Germany after WWI.
Germany promised Austria that they would back them no matter what, this blank check issue is a big part of why Germany gets blamed. If Austria wasn't told it could do whatever it wanted and still have German protection it may not have been bold enough to risk war with Russia by invading Serbia. Also, Germany was at the heart of many of the pre-war build-ups, like Wilhelm dramatically increased tensions between Britain and Germany during the Anglo-German Naval Arms Race which is part of the reason the alliance systems formed the way they did. Then the matter of the peace treaty, if you look at the treaty of Brest-Litovsk, Germany enforced much harsher conditions on Russia than the allies enforced on Germany so it's a little hard to be sympathetic there. There wasn't much reason to invite Germany to the peace conference in fact doing so may have made the problem worse, the only difference between the peace treaty and an unconditional surrender was words, if the German government had been invited to the peace conference nothing would have changed and their reputation at home may have tanked even further.
Did you guys know Germany repaid the final part of it's ww1 war reparation only in 2010?
My history teacher said they finished payment in 1990...
I hate France
Most people: Fry core.
History Matters: FREECORPS.
?? Freecorps is an actual German word xD
@@ichessegerneviel3566 It's freikorps tho
@@CollinBuckman Schnitzel, Bratwurst 🤔
@@ichessegerneviel3566 Österreich
0:34 it's Deutsches Reich, small misspelling
Kellerbaron There is no such thing as a „small“ misspelling when it comes to the very name of your topic. It is just disqualifying.
I am too late! I wanted to point out this too! :)
So what you're saying is that it's good, but it's not Reich?
Lord Rork Kellerbaron spelled it correctly, but the film didn’t.
@Asher Davis better than a regular Nazi
I am German and we worked 2 years in our history lessons on this topic. Impressing to see this shortened to just 3 minutes :D
but not particularly well it has to be said.
I nearly had a heart attack when I didn’t hear James Bissonette at the beginning of the sponsors
Mr. Mustache
TH-cam: Oh, I see what you did there
Mr. Moustache is easy, but I'm amazed at how you drew a recognizable Thälmann
I love the shorter vids. Very quick and educational!
"Votes, yo"
Mr. Moustache: I'm gonna stop you right there
Moustache man offered a solution that was extremely compelling and in his first few years of given small chances by various groups and political and corporate powers he slam dunked what they wanted in a time when everyone was failing. Eventually it just became natural to assume he could only bring success.
>the only way to get anything done was to use the president's executive power
Congress never being able to agree on anything:
The problem was that the president could just enact article 48, with which he could rule without needing the consent of parliament, but only in cases of emergency. Emergencies were not defined tho so it was open for abuse.
That combined with many different parties, no minimum of how many seats a party had to have in parliament and like half the population (in the later years of the republic) voting for parties openly calling for the abolishing of the republic, and you get a presidential dictatorship from the right-leaning conservatists in hopes of keeping the communists and far-right-leaning radicals out of power
Thanks for the new video! And nicely done too--an excellent encapsulation of the Weimar Republic.
History matters:”Mr.moustache”
TH-cam:”Mission failed we Will get Him Next time”
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Wow this was a great video my friend, you always make such educational and entertaining content, keep up the great work!
Can’t say hitler on TH-cam or else you get demonetized. So what does he do? He calls old Adolf Mr mustache. Pure class. That’s why I love this dude and his videos.
When you don't mention James Bisonette first I get anxiety
"The Weimar Republic was unstable because of the voting system"
*Proceeds to describe pretty much any present-day European parliamentary system*
I love your channel keep up the great stuff
I loved this, thanks! One question: at 1:34 do you actually mean "hard to overstate"?
"one day for no reason at all..."
The republic fell because a Certain "Mr. Moustache" wasnt allowed to join the vienna art institute
Mr.mustach committed high treason in 1923 and wasn't hung like he Sould have been instead sent to a luxury resort for a short time that in large part is why it failed
@@bobross8786meh, if it wasn't him it would have been someone else. It was doomed to fail from the start
@@BudMasta True , but if not for that man maybe we wouldn't have had 6000000 murders and another world war
@@bobross8786 the first peace conference was nothing more than a truce. Everyone of the time knew it wouldn't last. So again, I think you're off here.
@Fiasco Thank you for pointing out the facts about SOCIALISM /COMMUNISM I wish more young people today would realize there not gonna get any free stuff from bernie or any other political parasites . With that being said hitler should have been hung . Stalin too .
6 seconds is. Great roast. Very polite, straight to the point. 10/10 would watch again
Russia under Yeltsin was very similar to the Weimarer Republic and it had to fail as well.
Very cool, History matters.
Very cool.
German government: Can we have democracy?
The Public: We have democracy at home.
At home: *DEUTCHES REICH*
Reich doesn't necessarily mean empire in German. It simply means "realm". Deutsches Reich translates to German Realm, similar to how the German name for France is Frankreich, or French Realm.
@@Christopher_TG Well, the thing is that the name “Deutsches Reich” was directly taken from the German Empire, also known as “Kaiserreich”. Yes, you can translate Reich to realm, but the German Reich in its original form was by no means a realm but an Empire with an emperor, a claim no government of the Weimar Republic ever gave up.
@@willywodka1924 No, it means "German Realm" ... You seem to be forgetting how Germany come into existence as a unified and how the German Empire consisted of 26 states included 4 kingdoms, 6 grand duchies, 5 duchies (6 before 1876), 7 principalities, 3 free Hanseatic cities,and 1 imperial territory,
Also the correct term would be Deutsches Kaiserreich however Wilhelm I didnt like it and it was never official, Deutsches Reich was the official name of Germany from 1871 until 1945.
@@willywodka1924 It isn't necessary about Empire. It is simply "realm","country" without any connotations about system of government. For example France in German is "Frankreich" INCLUDING French Republic.
Of course some connotations were altered after WW2, because of association of it with NSDAP.
I mean that’s what happens when you unfairly punish a country that didn’t even start a war
The Reichsmark was literally reduced to wallpaper by 1924. The Treaty of Versailles was pretty much ineffective. All it did was kick the proverbial can down the road giving us the Third Reich and World War II. The dismal failure that was the League of Nations didn't help matters whatsoever either.
The treat of Versailles wasn’t really inefficient, it were the countries enforcing the treaty after the war.
France and GB both new that their population wouldn’t stand for another war, just after WWI and that neither of their countries were prepared for one.
That lead to a treaty enforced on a nation more powerful and willing to fight then the nations enforcing the treaty.
Why did you show Lenin as a ghost? At the time you were referencing he was still alive.
In 1924, he is dead.
Ohlourdes Padua Yup, the Leader of the Communist Party he shows is Ernst Thälmann, who became party leader in 1925
Should’ve been Marx
@@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 The year was 1924, and Vladimir Lenin... was dead.
@@janmichaelcjamisola This left only two men who could succeed him, Joseph Stalin and Leon Trotsky, both wanted the other gone.
History Matters: "Mister Moustache"
TH-cam: "I know what it's like to lose"
ah yes, history class has prepared me for this exact video
i dont know how you do it but your videos are superior!
Happy new year
I had a heart attack when James Bizenette wasn't first
Next time call “Mr. Moustache” the “Charlie Chaplin Knockoff”
Your voice is hella soothing dawg
I pose this question to my advanced US History students: Did the Treaty of Versailles make World War II Inevitable? This video gave me a few more ideas to throw in for them to think about.
Did it?
@@YourHaloCreations I would argue that the Treaty of Versailles, combined with fhe Great Depression, did make Germany desperate which triggered a series of events leading to World War II
@@CStone-xn4oyWhat about Japan’s actions starting in 1931. How much were they influenced by the treaty of Versailles and the Great Depression?
@@graceneilitz7661 That is a fair point and I should have specified in my original post that those things made the war in Europe inevitable. Japan felt alienated after the Treaty of Versailles but I still think the military would have still seized defacto control of the government so the seizing of Manchuria and the invasion of the rest of China would still happen.
First and thank you for this I always want to know more about the Weimar Republic.
History with Hilbert has a bunch of videos on the subject
GOD I LOVE DEMOCRACY TO DEATH-Chancellor Palpatine
Sebastian Primomija
Also Palpatine: I’m an Emperor now
@@divusgaiusjuliuscaesar4657 Both Napoleons did the same thing Palpatine did
nb2008nc you forget what I did
I like to compare real life events to Harry Potter and Star Wars
Neal Star Wars is basically what happened with Caesar and the rebels are literally the assassins
History Matters: Mr. Moustache
TH-cam Algorithm: Impressive. Most Impressive.
Mr. Moustache: **exists**
Weimar Republic: *_"Why do i hear The Coffin ⚰️⚰️⚰️ Dance Music?!"_*
Liked this, having just helped my nephew revise for his GCSE History (a brilliant course btw)!
The Rentenmark/Rentenbank after hyperinflation was huge in establishing confidence in money as was the Dawes Plan allowing the US to invest in German industry (plus Locarno pact and later being invited to join the League of Nations), leading to jobs and a growing economy and confidence. A liberal constitution (Weimar) with women's & voters rights was significant too as were modern cultural shifts (bauhaus?). Things were improving well after hyperinflation.
Then came the Wall St Crash in 1929 and the US banks / businesses had to call in German loans which plunged Germany back into economic depression and support for Weimer easily leaked away in a time when extreme ideologies were readily accepted, and was seized upon by Hitler particularly, who had realised he couldn't just rely on the brownshirts and violence, but needed political manouverings aswell to advance the Nat Socialists (NSDAP)cause. Hence for example he would promote traditional values under a single strong leader and scare folks about eg communists seizing their land (for the common good, part of their ideology).
Forcing the president to hold further elections early in the '30s Hitler gained many seats in parliament and ultimately as Chancellor (more political manouverings) forbade communists from taking their seats in the Reichstag thus achieving massive parliamentary superiority and so the ability to change the constitution (and create the post of Fuhrer and Cabinet, not parliamentary, rule). The rest, as they say, is also history!
“Spinning Three Plates”
**Everyone Liked That**
and Party Boyco!
@@TheBasil36 but what about Azarka Flash? :(
James Bisenette and Sky Chappell were very late. You got me worried.
last i was this early I was in a life support machine
A suggestion for another 3 minute video: South Tyrolean Liberation Committee , a seccesionist movement that acted aganst the Italian state and commited a number of bomb attacks, culminating in the great fire-night, or as the locals called it 'Die Bummserei' , the great banging, because of the loud banging sounds that echoed in the valleys.
CGP Grey fans who have watched “rules for rulers” will note that the ability to cancel reparations payments is a pot of money you can offer to your keys to power.
which is a garbarge video by the way
@@livinglifeform7974 Agreed I like that channel though.
Aljae what are your critiques of the video?
I think the model it presents isn’t all-describing, but it does seem to be a useful lens.
@@armorsmith43 As usefull as Machiavelli's "The Prince". Read that instead.
Dreagostini I’ve read that. The Dictator’s Handbook has comments on it.
2:30 makes for quite a foreboding bingo card rn
Great content!
Germans in Weimar Republic also suffered from a certain cultural issue. There was a sudden rise in the exposure of pornography, homosexuality and transgenderism. No wonder someone stepped in...
@Belgian Nationalist truer words could not have been spoken sir.
People ignore how significant this was for fueling the anti Jewish sentiment.
Although it was an extremely small minority of them involved with these institutions but the general public didn't see it that way
Why does this sound familiar
And we see it happening again here in North America….. every single time we let the Little Hats just take and inch….
And again what does this also prove? People in society will come to despise degeneracy due its societal ills causing collapse and destruction of the nuclear family and Christian values.
The trolling levels of the TH-cam algorithm here are just beautiful.
Nearly got a heartattack when I didn't hear the name of James Bizinet, but luckily he was mentioned at the end.
Here I am, dropping everything for your videos again😂
Lol
"every man is a millionaire" - germany 1923
*a wet dream that went down hill*
The US is going to be v2 of this
All I wanted for Christmas was James Bisenette to be named first. All I got was a pair of socks. Oh and a great video.
Versaille should have been mentioned but great video!
Never forget James Bissinet, you will be missed
Mr Moustache, one of the less well known Mr Men.
History Matters: "Mr. Moustache"
TH-cam wanting to demonetize: "All around me are familiar faces-"
Please, next video with the topic "Why have so many dictators a moustache?"
We have such a good stable democratic country - Stresseman
Great Depression: *"Let me introduce myself*"
"Oh shit" - Gustav Stressedman
Ancient Accounts - Animated History You could say he was... a stressed man...
It's _Stresemann_ .
Also, him saying "oh shit" when the Great Depression hit would be quite astonishing, as he died a few weeks before that (on Oct 3rd 1929).
Nice, a video about the Weimar Republic! In my eyes the Weimar period is the most interesting period in European history. History with Hilbert has a great series on the Weimar Republic in which he goes into how it was formed, what made it vulnerable, its downfall and all the important issues plaguing it. Also, Guy Bloke has a funny video about the Weimar Republic.
It was the worst time in Europe- post ww1.
Death of Europe -forever
You're joking
@@amadiohastruck4331 Well, to be fair, I might have been a little overly excited 2 years ago. But no, I wasn't joking, it's incredibly interesting.
Very BRILLIANT analysis
0:41 yeees *yeeees* . Clever little detail
"the only way to get anything done is to use the president's executive powers", sounds a bit like the US over the last 10 years
0:23 lol
You guys haven't done a ten minute history in a while. Wish you guys would.
Since James bizanette got replaced i always listen till the end just in case. not sure if that was his intention, but if it was: genius, just genius
DeutSches Reich is missing an S in this video. In German the "sh" sound like in "sheep" is written as "sch", not just "ch".
Short answer: WW1
Long answer: World War One
It also did not help to allow party seats with too small a share of the vote - that is a problem that most countries with proportional representation tend to avoid.
Gee this all sounds so familiar...