I may have said this before, but this was the best interview ever. It was so interesting, that it would seem a panel discussion might be in order. Finally something that addresses the questions and ideas some of us have had since we can remember, but no one to talk to who didn't have a blank stare when you're sharing thoughts beyond the "written page."
Brilliant. We......Are Mythvision. Been a Mythvision watcher while a witness even before knowing anything about the Lloyd Evans Channel. Derek was fundamental in exploring the possibility of a Jesus myth... Now this is a treat.
Thanks Derek for being such a truth seeker and thought pioneer. You certainly are a passionate caring deep human🤗 I’ve been following you for a few years, about as long as I’ve followed Lloyd. I like getting multiple perspectives(ex jwitness here). Most people don’t have a quarter of the curiosity you do?! It’s probably a blessing and a curse but mostly I wouldn’t have it any other way..😅🥰🙏 Thank you Lloyd for having Derek on!🎉❤
Although I tune into Lloyd’s channel much more frequently, I have watched many of Derek’s interviews with scholars on his channel…appreciated them all. So informative! Mahalo! I have to say I most thoroughly enjoyed being able to see him get interviewed for a change and hear part of his personal journey as a spiritual person. Makes me appreciate his myth vision channel even more. The work you both do to raise awareness and bring truth to people is needed. Keep it up!
Derek lambert you helped save my life watching your first videos. In the first page of the bible it says God is in all of us so I believe when they saw God sees and knows all you do so I’m guessing it means we are our own God in a way, we should respect ourselves a lot more and live out best beautiful lives. Harm nobody else and forgive our neighbours as God is in them too. It’s good to see you it’s been a while.
I really enjoyed that interview! Thank you for introducing a channel that I will check out. I started thinking of the Bible as Jewish and Early Christian mythology and folklore a few years after leaving the JWs, once I realized that the JWs believe they have the capital T Truth… just like pretty much every other religion. When I was able to let go of the literal perspective of the Bible, it did just what Derek mentioned, everything opened up. I found the work of Karl Jung and various Jungian psychologists, many of which examine the meaning in various cultures’ myths, folklore, and sacred texts. I particularly love that concept that these sacred texts can still have great value to humanity without having to be taken literally. Those stories hold the seeds of culture, society, and understanding life in a deeper way.
I can relate to this guy. I was constantly tatting on myself for everything as a jehovahs witnesses. And was looked down on so much cause of it. But I was just very sincere and wanted to worship God whole heartedly, without dishonesty. I ended up getting disfellowshipped and stopped believing a year later. And now my extreme honesty and sincerity is still there but in regards to not being able to convert back due to what I have learned. I can't even pretend. It hurts my soul to be dishonest and live a lie. I'm still that way.
This is great. For my current book project I’m am going back to the Torah, vulgate, and scroll translations to demonstrate how modern doctrine has manipulated the Bible to fit their message. I’m unraveling Christian hate and judgement through a positive perspective.
Thank you for sharing such vulnerable testimony! I appreciate that you not only shared why you believe/don't believe in this or that, but recognized the significance of spirituality and faith in other people's healing process.
Wow what a captivating interview! How is it possible for one human to have all that information stored away in one mind 🤯 does Derek have a book ? If not, he needs one! Brilliant as always lloyd! (I think the expanding ball is called a hoberman sphere 😄)
By the way, when Derek is talking about crucifixion, it was most likely a cross. I know in the echo chamber we used to be in, they made fun of the idea of a cross. But atheist and Christian scholars agree thet given the textual evidence inside and outside the Bible, it probably had a crossbeam.
I love the blind men and the elephant story. It’s one of my favorite metaphors for how things can be lost/missed/misunderstood in the process of discovery. That story got me wondering about how a caveman might explain unseen forces like wind, magnetism, and electricity (lightning, static). Sometimes I think that all these unseen/invisible phenomena that do exist in our natural world, maybe they’ve been misinterpreted through the ignorance and lack of scientific knowledge of times, and folks created these storied explanations to mollify their anxieties about them. And The Life of Pi film was marvelous! The book was even better, as film adaptations of books tend to be. The Giver is another book I strongly recommend in that same vein. My transition (after leaving the JW cult) from interfaith curiosity to borderline atheist (it’s a very thin sliver of doubt that remains) sounds very similar to Derek’s deconversion process. All the mythologies being so similar across cultures is something that led me to explore interfaith and unitarian universalist belief systems. Then I started to think that as parables, there may be some psychosocial educational value to express concepts related to human motivation and behaviors. But, aside from that, I no longer find the stories in any of the “divine texts” to necessarily be valuable as overall guidance for living life. They’re clever and often beautiful artifacts of prose and poetry, and that’s valuable to humanities and human culture. But that’s how I see their value in my life overall. Brilliant interview you guys! Thanks!!❤
Derek's talk about Preterist eschatology and the styles of Reformed Christian/Presbyterian-style of worship compared to Charismatic Christian/Pentecostal/Evangelical Christian forms of worship was interesting. It shows you how diverse forms of religious worship are in Christianity and how Christians have vastly different interpretations of the end of the world.
What a great video. Derek Lambert was an absolute delight. I think the parallels between religious myths is interesting, to compare similarities and notable differences. Samson and Hercules sort of illustrate that people in the ancient world were fascinated by tales of human beings with seemingly divinely endowed strength. The story of the global flood in the Hebrew Bible was probably borrowed from earlier Mesopotamian myths by the Israelites who put their own spin on this culturally shared idea. There are really two different portrayals of the Noah's Ark and the flood story in the BOOK OF GENESIS. I think religion evolved out of a shared human belief that there are forces greater than us in the world that surrounds us and at work in the wider universe. Most people view that greater power as being personified in the form deities, who may or may not be active in the world. The more you look at religions, the more you see how human these constructs are. They can be used for good or to cause harm. I'm an atheist, so no, I doubt that deities of any sort exist--but I don't claim to know for sure that a singular god or multiple deities do not exist. I accept that Jesus of Nazareth was a historical figure, and the view that I hold of him is one that most Biblical scholars would share: that he was itinerant Jewish preacher who engaged in exorcisms and faith healings who believed that the end of the world was imminent and was going to come in his disciples' lifetimes; that Jesus was crucified by Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius, and that he had a biological brother named James who led the early Christian community in Jerusalem in the 1st century CE. I doubt that he was the son of Yahweh, though he probably believed himself to be, nor do I believe that Jesus actually performed any supernatural miracles, though he probably really thought that he could. I doubt that he was resurrected from the dead, though his disciples probably had religious experiences that convinced them that God had brought him back to life, probably prompted by the high levels of grief and confusion they underwent through the loss of their beloved leader. Paul of Tarsus certainly believed that Jesus was a real person. In his writings in the New Testament, he writes of certain ideas about Jesus that scholars would say are likely to support the idea of there being a Jesus of Nazareth in history. He probably considered Jesus to have led a pre-earthly life and existence as some kind of angel before being born on earth, but then that belief was pretty much common amongst Christians at the time, so he wouldn't have been alone in that idea. I think Christianity inherited that idea about the Messiah from Judaism. As for Paul's religious experiences where a resurrected Jesus appears to him, I doubt that those were actually supernatural occurrences that he was undergoing, but they probably seemed authentic to Paul.
Superb story. Well done Derek, love your testimony all the way through. Have you seen Prof. James Fowler's 'Stages of Spiritual Growth'? The deconstruction leading to a fuller life is one of those stages, and for each of us it is different. Absolutely brilliant, well done.
Derek hits at the problem I see with mythicists - there’s this notion that if he existed, it somehow makes Christianity true or truer. This is absurd…even if much of gospel accounts of Jesus (pre-resurrection) could somehow be confirmed or supported strongly as history, it doesn’t validate any supernatural claims. If we find out Moses existed tomorrow, it doesn’t mean God talked to him on Mt Sinai. It’s like saying when we uncovered Troy, it makes the goddess Athena more plausible.
ATHEISTS and AGNOSTICS HATE and REJECT THE CREATOR Arrogant, cruel, and merciless Atheists and Agnostics who joined Satan the Devil in insulting and degrading the Creator as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Most High and Sovereign God are nothing but worthless and useless human beings who are worthy and deserving of their own disgrace, dishonor, downfall, shameful and Eternal Deaths, just worthless and useless dusts on earth forever. RELIGIONS and CULTS HATE and REJECT JESUS CHRIST Arrogant, cruel, and merciless Mormons, JWs, Born Agains, Catholics, SDAs, Baptists, Pentecostals, Christians, Buddhists Hindus Muslims, fanatics of all Religions and Cults who joined the liars and anti-Christs Teachers, Pastors, and Leaders of Religions in spreading throughout the world their lies and false teachings about "Armageddon", "hellfire", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" are nothing but worthless and useless human beings who are worthy and deserving of their own disgrace, dishonor, downfall, shameful and Eternal Deaths, just worthless and useless dusts on earth forever. THE CREATOR and HIS CHRIST HATE and REJECT SATAN'S ATHEISM, AGNOSTICISM, and RELIGIOUS FANATICISM Eternal Life and existence on earth without sufferings, griefs, sickness, and deaths is the Creator's favor and reward for all loving, kind, and respectful human beings who submit to the authority of his Christ and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead". The "Kingdom of God" is the Creator's Rulership through his Christ that will destroy and put an end to all the Satanic hatred, arrogance, lies, deceptions, hypocrisies, cruelties, false teachings and doctrines of Satan's Atheism, Agnosticism, and Religious Fanaticism that bring and cause the sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and deaths of mankind. The Creator's Rulership through his Chosen King and Ruler will ensure that planet earth is safe, secure, peaceful and without arrogant, cruel, and merciless worshippers of Satan the Devil and believers of his anti-Christs, without liars, deceivers, slanderers, hypocrites, terrorists, criminals, and murderers. The "Resurrection of the Dead" is the Creator's guarantee that loving, kind, and respectful human beings who died even thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, King David, the Christ's believers, and many others will be resurrected back to life by Jesus Christ in the Creator's own right time and ensures that all loving, kind, and respectful worshippers of the Creator and believers of his Christ can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient citizens of the "Kingdom of God" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of the Creator himself and his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, his Christ.
O, people of the book Exceed not in your religion the bound's (of what is proper) Trespassing beyond the truth. nor Follow the vain desires Of people Who went wrong in times gone by _ misled many and strayed (themselves) from the even way . (Quran 5.77)
In one way Jesus kind of reminds me about stories about old kings or Chuck Norris. the person existed. some things might be true. Other things not that much. give it a few hundred years and what is what. isn´t going to be any clearer.
@@MadderMel Gotcha, I see you're joking. There's little that's more arrogant than the christian world view after all. Quite rude depending on the denomination as well.
Lloyd, I really love your videos very much, but very honestly, I couldn't stand this guy. The monolog.... uhhh..... after one hour, I had to stop watching. Sorry. I am looking forward to watching your next video.
I seriously enjoyed this interview Lloyd!
Me too! Always enjoy our chats mate! 🙂
@@LloydEvans Great interview sir
Y'all 👌🏿🔥🔥🔥
I enjoy MythVision's interviews.
Freedom from religion is a breath of fresh air.
I may have said this before, but this was the best interview ever. It was so interesting, that it would seem a panel discussion might be in order.
Finally something that addresses the questions and ideas some of us have had since we can remember, but no one to talk to who didn't have a blank stare when you're sharing thoughts beyond the "written page."
He is so profound. I love and agree with his statement. God is definitely made in man's image. Small wonder God is so impotent.
Also not surprising is god was created as a male.
I agree. I have always said to people that God comes to us how we need to see God. The perspectives are linked to culture, race and gender bias.
@@womanofcharacter You preached sister.
Brilliant. We......Are Mythvision. Been a Mythvision watcher while a witness even before knowing anything about the Lloyd Evans Channel. Derek was fundamental in exploring the possibility of a Jesus myth...
Now this is a treat.
Thanks Derek for being such a truth seeker and thought pioneer. You certainly are a passionate caring deep human🤗
I’ve been following you for a few years, about as long as I’ve followed Lloyd. I like getting multiple perspectives(ex jwitness here). Most people don’t have a quarter of the curiosity you do?! It’s probably a blessing and a curse but mostly I wouldn’t have it any other way..😅🥰🙏
Thank you Lloyd for having Derek on!🎉❤
The two TH-camrs I spend the most time watching, what a great deal, what a great interview 🙌🏻
💯🥰
Wow, amazing collab! 🎉
Glad to hear his story, especially getting clean. I love these channels. So much thought provoking content.
Although I tune into Lloyd’s channel much more frequently, I have watched many of Derek’s interviews with scholars on his channel…appreciated them all. So informative! Mahalo!
I have to say I most thoroughly enjoyed being able to see him get interviewed for a change and hear part of his personal journey as a spiritual person. Makes me appreciate his myth vision channel even more. The work you both do to raise awareness and bring truth to people is needed. Keep it up!
Derek lambert you helped save my life watching your first videos. In the first page of the bible it says God is in all of us so I believe when they saw God sees and knows all you do so I’m guessing it means we are our own God in a way, we should respect ourselves a lot more and live out best beautiful lives. Harm nobody else and forgive our neighbours as God is in them too. It’s good to see you it’s been a while.
I really enjoyed that interview! Thank you for introducing a channel that I will check out.
I started thinking of the Bible as Jewish and Early Christian mythology and folklore a few years after leaving the JWs, once I realized that the JWs believe they have the capital T Truth… just like pretty much every other religion.
When I was able to let go of the literal perspective of the Bible, it did just what Derek mentioned, everything opened up. I found the work of Karl Jung and various Jungian psychologists, many of which examine the meaning in various cultures’ myths, folklore, and sacred texts.
I particularly love that concept that these sacred texts can still have great value to humanity without having to be taken literally. Those stories hold the seeds of culture, society, and understanding life in a deeper way.
Two of my favourite TH-camrs together 😊
One of the best interviews ever, just subbed to Myth Vision and gonna check out his content soon!
I can relate to this guy. I was constantly tatting on myself for everything as a jehovahs witnesses. And was looked down on so much cause of it. But I was just very sincere and wanted to worship God whole heartedly, without dishonesty. I ended up getting disfellowshipped and stopped believing a year later. And now my extreme honesty and sincerity is still there but in regards to not being able to convert back due to what I have learned. I can't even pretend. It hurts my soul to be dishonest and live a lie. I'm still that way.
This is great. For my current book project I’m am going back to the Torah, vulgate, and scroll translations to demonstrate how modern doctrine has manipulated the Bible to fit their message. I’m unraveling Christian hate and judgement through a positive perspective.
Thank you for sharing such vulnerable testimony! I appreciate that you not only shared why you believe/don't believe in this or that, but recognized the significance of spirituality and faith in other people's healing process.
This was a great interview. Thank you!
Absolutely amazing interview , cheers lloyd 😊
What a truly fascinating episode.
I love Derek - just a cool dude. I’ve spent many a night listening to mythvision!
Wow what a captivating interview! How is it possible for one human to have all that information stored away in one mind 🤯 does Derek have a book ? If not, he needs one!
Brilliant as always lloyd! (I think the expanding ball is called a hoberman sphere 😄)
1:15:47 these concluding dialogue was very uplifting. Good to hear Derek’s story.
Great work Lloyd
I love myth vision! His intro is the best.
Thank you, Lloyd. This was Fantastic. I enjoyed every minute. WOW!!!!
Derek certainly had very interesting life story to tell (thus far) - though I have not previously watched his TH-cam channel.
By the way, when Derek is talking about crucifixion, it was most likely a cross. I know in the echo chamber we used to be in, they made fun of the idea of a cross. But atheist and Christian scholars agree thet given the textual evidence inside and outside the Bible, it probably had a crossbeam.
I love the blind men and the elephant story. It’s one of my favorite metaphors for how things can be lost/missed/misunderstood in the process of discovery. That story got me wondering about how a caveman might explain unseen forces like wind, magnetism, and electricity (lightning, static). Sometimes I think that all these unseen/invisible phenomena that do exist in our natural world, maybe they’ve been misinterpreted through the ignorance and lack of scientific knowledge of times, and folks created these storied explanations to mollify their anxieties about them.
And The Life of Pi film was marvelous! The book was even better, as film adaptations of books tend to be. The Giver is another book I strongly recommend in that same vein.
My transition (after leaving the JW cult) from interfaith curiosity to borderline atheist (it’s a very thin sliver of doubt that remains) sounds very similar to Derek’s deconversion process. All the mythologies being so similar across cultures is something that led me to explore interfaith and unitarian universalist belief systems. Then I started to think that as parables, there may be some psychosocial educational value to express concepts related to human motivation and behaviors. But, aside from that, I no longer find the stories in any of the “divine texts” to necessarily be valuable as overall guidance for living life. They’re clever and often beautiful artifacts of prose and poetry, and that’s valuable to humanities and human culture. But that’s how I see their value in my life overall.
Brilliant interview you guys! Thanks!!❤
Great interview! Derek is an amazing and fascinating speaker. Thank you to both of you.
Derek's talk about Preterist eschatology and the styles of Reformed Christian/Presbyterian-style of worship compared to Charismatic Christian/Pentecostal/Evangelical Christian forms of worship was interesting. It shows you how diverse forms of religious worship are in Christianity and how Christians have vastly different interpretations of the end of the world.
❤ your T-shirt Lloyd and you're rocking the new look
What a great video. Derek Lambert was an absolute delight. I think the parallels between religious myths is interesting, to compare similarities and notable differences. Samson and Hercules sort of illustrate that people in the ancient world were fascinated by tales of human beings with seemingly divinely endowed strength. The story of the global flood in the Hebrew Bible was probably borrowed from earlier Mesopotamian myths by the Israelites who put their own spin on this culturally shared idea. There are really two different portrayals of the Noah's Ark and the flood story in the BOOK OF GENESIS. I think religion evolved out of a shared human belief that there are forces greater than us in the world that surrounds us and at work in the wider universe. Most people view that greater power as being personified in the form deities, who may or may not be active in the world. The more you look at religions, the more you see how human these constructs are. They can be used for good or to cause harm.
I'm an atheist, so no, I doubt that deities of any sort exist--but I don't claim to know for sure that a singular god or multiple deities do not exist. I accept that Jesus of Nazareth was a historical figure, and the view that I hold of him is one that most Biblical scholars would share: that he was itinerant Jewish preacher who engaged in exorcisms and faith healings who believed that the end of the world was imminent and was going to come in his disciples' lifetimes; that Jesus was crucified by Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius, and that he had a biological brother named James who led the early Christian community in Jerusalem in the 1st century CE. I doubt that he was the son of Yahweh, though he probably believed himself to be, nor do I believe that Jesus actually performed any supernatural miracles, though he probably really thought that he could. I doubt that he was resurrected from the dead, though his disciples probably had religious experiences that convinced them that God had brought him back to life, probably prompted by the high levels of grief and confusion they underwent through the loss of their beloved leader.
Paul of Tarsus certainly believed that Jesus was a real person. In his writings in the New Testament, he writes of certain ideas about Jesus that scholars would say are likely to support the idea of there being a Jesus of Nazareth in history. He probably considered Jesus to have led a pre-earthly life and existence as some kind of angel before being born on earth, but then that belief was pretty much common amongst Christians at the time, so he wouldn't have been alone in that idea. I think Christianity inherited that idea about the Messiah from Judaism. As for Paul's religious experiences where a resurrected Jesus appears to him, I doubt that those were actually supernatural occurrences that he was undergoing, but they probably seemed authentic to Paul.
Great job Lloyd.
Great interview. I want Derek to read me bedtime stories in his church voice. 😉😀
Superb story. Well done Derek, love your testimony all the way through. Have you seen Prof. James Fowler's 'Stages of Spiritual Growth'? The deconstruction leading to a fuller life is one of those stages, and for each of us it is different. Absolutely brilliant, well done.
Great interview!
This was really good, thanks!
🖤🖤🖤
Man, I thought the thumbnail was Lloyd Evans reborn 😂
AWESOME! Loved it
How coincidental that my copy of Homer Odyssey and Iliad arrived this week.
Great to see you both at the same time. I subscribe to both channels.
"We can't keep you out of the water, can we" hilarious
Loved the interview. Love your colorful t shirt
Enjoyable indeed
Amazing guest. I have so much to say and I'm only 8 min into the video.
Amazing and pretty collab
No need to be Religious but A REAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD through Jesus Christ
Hoberman Sphere. You're talking about the hoberman sphere
Derek is to religion as Forrest Valkay and Gutsick Gibbon are to science and biology
Wow the brain wash was big!
Derek hits at the problem I see with mythicists - there’s this notion that if he existed, it somehow makes Christianity true or truer. This is absurd…even if much of gospel accounts of Jesus (pre-resurrection) could somehow be confirmed or supported strongly as history, it doesn’t validate any supernatural claims. If we find out Moses existed tomorrow, it doesn’t mean God talked to him on Mt Sinai. It’s like saying when we uncovered Troy, it makes the goddess Athena more plausible.
ATHEISTS and AGNOSTICS HATE and REJECT THE CREATOR
Arrogant, cruel, and merciless Atheists and Agnostics who joined Satan the Devil in insulting and degrading the Creator as worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Most High and Sovereign God are nothing but worthless and useless human beings who are worthy and deserving of their own disgrace, dishonor, downfall, shameful and Eternal Deaths, just worthless and useless dusts on earth forever.
RELIGIONS and CULTS HATE and REJECT JESUS CHRIST
Arrogant, cruel, and merciless Mormons, JWs, Born Agains, Catholics, SDAs, Baptists, Pentecostals, Christians, Buddhists Hindus Muslims, fanatics of all Religions and Cults who joined the liars and anti-Christs Teachers, Pastors, and Leaders of Religions in spreading throughout the world their lies and false teachings about "Armageddon", "hellfire", "Trinity", "rapture", and "reincarnation" are nothing but worthless and useless human beings who are worthy and deserving of their own disgrace, dishonor, downfall, shameful and Eternal Deaths, just worthless and useless dusts on earth forever.
THE CREATOR and HIS CHRIST HATE and REJECT SATAN'S ATHEISM, AGNOSTICISM, and RELIGIOUS FANATICISM
Eternal Life and existence on earth without sufferings, griefs, sickness, and deaths is the Creator's favor and reward for all loving, kind, and respectful human beings who submit to the authority of his Christ and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead".
The "Kingdom of God" is the Creator's Rulership through his Christ that will destroy and put an end to all the Satanic hatred, arrogance, lies, deceptions, hypocrisies, cruelties, false teachings and doctrines of Satan's Atheism, Agnosticism, and Religious Fanaticism that bring and cause the sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and deaths of mankind.
The Creator's Rulership through his Chosen King and Ruler will ensure that planet earth is safe, secure, peaceful and without arrogant, cruel, and merciless worshippers of Satan the Devil and believers of his anti-Christs, without liars, deceivers, slanderers, hypocrites, terrorists, criminals, and murderers.
The "Resurrection of the Dead" is the Creator's guarantee that loving, kind, and respectful human beings who died even thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, King David, the Christ's believers, and many others will be resurrected back to life by Jesus Christ in the Creator's own right time and ensures that all loving, kind, and respectful worshippers of the Creator and believers of his Christ can happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient citizens of the "Kingdom of God" and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, compassions, generosities, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of the Creator himself and his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth, his Christ.
Lloyd, are you wearing a Leviathan t-shirt for the occasion?
Ugh. (whisper voice getting slowly louder) we are MYTHVISION
Hoberman sphere
I thought Derek previously said his family were " press- buttons". Sorry Presbyterian.
Talks between atheists and Christian’s
Thank you for sharing. "God made in man's image," powerful words.
6:58 that pastor just stole from Rick Astley
O, people of the book Exceed not in your religion the bound's (of what is proper) Trespassing beyond the truth. nor Follow the vain desires Of people
Who went wrong in times gone by _ misled many and strayed (themselves) from the even way . (Quran 5.77)
Everyone should *'go down'* in front of a large audience and put their *'warm bosoms'* on display. 🤭
For the record, I do believe that Space Jam actually happened.
Nothing new regarding his views.
How can one recover from drugs and don't believe in a higher power, or God.
John Lennox !
What sexual repression? Sophistry complete and utter sophistry with a dash of solipsism.
In one way Jesus kind of reminds me about stories about old kings or Chuck Norris. the person existed. some things might be true. Other things not that much. give it a few hundred years and what is what. isn´t going to be any clearer.
I still think that the so called New Atheists , very many ( not all ) are very rude and arrogant !
You’re not wrong. Some people think being an atheist makes them superior somehow
Compared to what, christians?
Yes indeed compared to the Christian speakers !
@@MadderMel Gotcha, I see you're joking. There's little that's more arrogant than the christian world view after all.
Quite rude depending on the denomination as well.
Lloyd, I really love your videos very much, but very honestly, I couldn't stand this guy. The monolog.... uhhh..... after one hour, I had to stop watching. Sorry. I am looking forward to watching your next video.
You’re a joke Derek is awesome
As an exJW and now atheist, it’s hard to take this guy seriously.