Panel Discussion: Christian Nationalism, Women in Politics, & Jewish Influence on American Society
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Pastors Joel Webbon, Brian Sauvé, J. Chase Davis, and Dr. Joe Rigney sit down with Dr. Stephen Wolfe at the 2024 New Christendom Press Conference to discuss a range of topics, including Christian Nationalism, Allie Beth Stuckey and women who fight in the culture war and politics, and the Zionist influence on American politics and culture.
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Great to see Jewish power becoming more prominent in these discussions.
@@TheOtherPaul Yes, good to see the masks falling off. Makes much more clear who these "Christian" nationalists really are.
Breaks my heart that James White won't address it
@@spartybuck7215 Of course he won't. White is a coward and full of it.
@@spartybuck7215
He dismisses it as a matter of policy
@@spartybuck7215 Moses didn't get to enter the promised land, the same it will be for Boomers and Christian Nationalism.
24:00 Yes must be culture shock for most native Texans to find themselves next to immigrant Indian family. They didn’t choose to move to Taxes because they want to be next to a white Christian family, but mostly because that’s where the big tech companies are moving to take tax incentives. As you know, Indians love IT and a lot of what you see is 1st generation migrants. We do adapt well to the American culture but we also hold true to our religious belief, although, not as strong as you’d find it in India. We do not preach conversion nor invite others to follow our practices. Our beliefs do not teach us that. All I sense in your statement is fear. Unreasonable that too.
They don’t care. They see a brown person of a different culture and religion and that’s enough to fear.
You new migrants will learn. We (black Americans) already know, but no one listens to us.
@@a.psquickview2071 So why are so many Black people anti-immigrant?
Great comments by Joe.
When it comes to the Jewish question, we can do both. If there are young men who blame their personal problems on others, they obviously need to work through that warped mindset. And at the same time, when there is a religious/ethnic supremacy in government/media/entertainment/finance that shapes all political discourse, we must challenge it and never back down. And Yoram Hazony is an Israel First zionist.
I think the "envy line" is the final bulwark behind, "no its not", "it's a coincidence","semantic quibbling about if it is a race or religion" , "you're a conspiracy theorist", "what are you an antisemite", "well it's because their IQ" and finally (hopefully) "you're just Jelous"
Can anyone honestly an I mean this, can anyone honestly point to an instance where the Christian who is angry at usury, pornography, media, blasphemy, degenarcy, pluralism, genocide, communism, and ethnic nepotism, has ever said -I wish we were doing these things instead! Have you ever gotten the notion they wish they owned a bank, academic theory, film studio, newspaper, super-PAC, NGO?
Ofcourse not. It is a stupid boomerish cope and Kafka trap, used by men who would revile the logic if it were applied to any other group.
The general equity debate: Doug Wilson talks about parenting and how we have a directive, “children obey your parents.” But he says if you are having trouble with an older child or budding teen, you lower the bar to raise the bar. Meaning you have to have wisdom to see what is needed in your home to get to the ideal which is obedience with joy. Same I think applies to the government. We have an ideal as stated by scripture but we have to apply wisdom for how to lead people there.
Based.
Stephen Wolfe coming out with the absolute hammer on that last question.
We are so back!
Stephen Wolfe is EXACTLY who we need, he is the ONLY one that has the right take on literally everything. That’s insane, if we do not boost him we will lose because Americans would never follow a Catholic, ironic considering the current issues we face, but these Catholics have no idea how big our country is and how much latent power American Protestants have in this country.
Thank you to Pastor Joel for representing us 1689 Baptists
What’s the over/under on when Joel becomes Presbyterian?
I've been saying this.
Thank you for being bold. I'm in the U.K and we could do more with this zeal.
Where in the U.K. are you? I’m also in the U.K.
@@rasheedoladipo near London
@@jamesascott7040 Have you attended any good UK conferences, such as the NCP conference? I attend IPC (International Presbyterian Church) in Ealing
@@rasheedoladipo there was a small conference up north that was good but a one off. IPC are great. I am at an IPC church too.
Hey Eric, “That’s really helpful” 😂
It’s his trademark at this point 😂
Whenever Eric asks a question, I try to count how many times that is his transition phrase, in the last Kings Hall Episode is was only four times, He's got to up his game.
I hope I Can be there someday 💔
Someone should have said “go home” when Eric said the Allie Beth Stuckey part. That would of been a great twitter clip
That episode of Backwoods Belief called Allie Beth Moore was really interesting.
Great to see Brian showing Joel how to hold and "turn on" his microphone on "the Love Seat." Time to get a room, gentlemen.
Dr. Stephen Wolfe looks like Cary Grant.
If this weren't so disturbing and disgusting, it would be comical.
Listening to these so called Men, I miss my wonderful Dad, who had a wife who was a Professional and totally fine with it....he also used tp tell his daughters they could be anything they wanted to be. He could also cry at the drop of a hat, but was also macho in the best way....a real Man.
"Oh, you guys are patriarchy. Like Andrew Tate and the toxic red pill guys." 🤦♂
They specifically said “not like Andrew Tate”.
@@PeteJab that's why I had it in quotes. That's how these guys are represented. They're accused of being women-hating red pill dudes.
@@PeteJabI think he was joking. People try and out biblical patriarchy in the same category as red pill Andrew Tate patriarchy
It’s about time we had a few Christians with balls
@@PeteJab Right.
Tell us the difference.
Ogden is the only one holding the line on true patriarchy. The rest are still captivated by ABS and the Megan Bashams. Huge blind spot to repent of
expunge? yes expunge my records...Stephen! lol
Catholic checking in: Nice to see some protestants that I have some common ground with.
I get that the "okay boomer this" is not very respectful to your elders, but what's wrong with "post-war consensus that"? I'd say it has nothing to do with being respectful. It sounds like an "ad fontes" type of thing to me, to break the post-war consensus.
Welcome to New Kabul.
Correct, neocons got pushed out of Kabul by religious fundamentalists and lord willing well push them out of the US as well.
Leave America.
@@dentonbc and look what a great society it became....
Nothing spells hate more than "Christian love".
These folks are serious. We better vote Blue
“I don’t know if my Hindu neighbour is going to fight to save my children.” - that is prejudice pure and simple. Whatever this movement is, it’s departed very far from authentic Christianity.
'You will know them by their fruits'. He is a loser whining about diversity and discriminating against and judging God's children.
What?
Exactly. I mean Hindus have protected the Jews in India since first the Temple fell centuries ago. India has the oldest lineage of the Jews and they have lived with Hindus without prosecution. And Hindus have protected Jews from Muslims all the time. If Christians hadn't killed Hindus in India, I mean massacred. By the portugese Christians. If this hadn't happened, Hindus wouldn't be fighting with Christians in India either. But nonetheless Hindus have the greatest track record on protecting people of other faiths. And that's a fact.
What is wrong with NAR ? They also want to establish a Theocratic government bringing heaven to earth sounds like same thing? Just asking if
Wolfe wrecks Rigney on the last section and it's great
Is it me, or did Joel grow his beard a little for this conference?
It’s clear the official New Christendom Press uniform is light brown leather shoes, jeans, and a sport jacket.
Is this theology related?
Beards. Reformed 'vestments'.
Some of us are groypers, Brian
Yall follow a middle eastern brown God.
Psalm 83.
Many pulpits have been usurped by the Psalm 83 people.
Wow. This is comedy gold. I didn't realize racists have public events 😂
Men must be governed by this clown 😂
😳
I like Allie Beth Stuckey a lot but I showed up in her comment thread to protest and rebut when she went after red pill and patriarchy. I really am not even comfortable with her going after Steven Furtick. I would rather see her refer people to men who have dealt with him in detail.
I don't agree with coming down against a Christian woman functioning as a talk show host interviewing people. A lot of the people she interviews are people with really important messages who are badly in need of the attention she provides some.
Red pill and patriarchy----you are defending that nonsense?
No wonder you can't get laid.
First of all, it makes me so sad that there are children present that have to listen to all of this. Second, they are incredibly loud in the background
We're just thankful you weren't there! We'd take the kids any day.
@@NewChristendomPressincredible ambassadors for Jesus.
The example given of the excommunicated theonomist was horrible. That's not a theonomist regardless of what your definition of a theonomist is! That's a crazy person. Why is a valid teological position defined by it's crazies and extremists like this?
The point was about hyper-literal theonomists, not theonomists in general
Very racist. I don’t think god would like that.
They swear they are good people and good Christians while coveting their racism.
'You will know them by their fruits'. Bunch of losers whining about diversity and discriminating against and judging God's children.
This dude is a fake preacher.
Cringe.
So is all Israel not going to be saved?
Yes, the bride of Christ
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Roman 11 25-26
The verses I'm referring to
@@goldberg7019Sadly these guys are supersessionists who literally place all the future promises given to national Israel into the church. But a careful reading of Scripture demonstrates that there are indeed wrong. Romans 11:26-27 use “all Israel” never refers to the church in Scripture.
I ask, then, has God rejected 👉🏾his people👈🏾? By no means! For I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin.
(Romans 11:1 ESVi)
Is this the new kk...k?
Btw Hindus have protected the Jews since their temple fell. India has the oldest lineage of Jews. Most are older than even those who live in Israel. Treat Hindus in a right way and they will definitely help protect your family in need.
We don't want an Theocratic Autocracy. We started this country to separate church and state. And women aren't "weak vessels" ... how insulting. God gave us all a free will. You freedom ends where another's freedom begins. But we can all live by the Golden Rule, which is at the root of all religions.
What are you talking about? The New England colonies of the Pilgrim Fathers was literally a Theocracy, that's how we started this country. The separation of Church and State is nowhere to be found on the Constitution either. You're literally proving them on why women shouldn't have any rights at all.
@@fyrdman2185This country started in Jamestown 1607. The Virginia Company was for profit, not religion.
@fyrdman2185 This country was built on murder and slavery. Do you want receipts?
@@fyrdman2185 Is the "New England Colonies" the same as the USA?
nope.
@@blondefro The country was not started under Jamestown, that was just the first English settlement, the country truly started after the 13 colonies were formed into 1 state after the war of independence and nowhere does separation of church and state is written in the constitution.
The nations are coming to Joel’s neighborhood and he seems bothered by it? Praise God for an opportunity to engage these people with the gospel! Maybe I just totally misunderstood what he was saying?
Are you Jewish?
I don't think he would disagree with your statement, but he's thinking in categories. You can simultaneously look around at your current multicultural society and praise God for the opportunities afforded you to share the gospel, while also acknowledging that the presence of multiple incompatible cultures living in the same neighborhood betrays a tension that isn't going to disappear until one of the cultures is subsumed into the other. In Joel's case, he's lamenting the fact that when he walks around his neighborhood, he doesn't see his neighbors united by their worship of the true God or signalling submission to that culture, but rather sees Hindus and Pakistanis (likely Muslims), dressed in their traditional religious garb, comfortable publicly identifying with the worship of demons in a state and nation that was founded to be self-consciously Christ-worshipping. It's a sobering and sorrowful thing. People from almost every other nation on earth (whether Christian or non-Christian) will understand the ethno-cultural in-group preference that Joel is expressing, and you'll experience the reverse of it if you visit a country where you look different and don't speak their language. While it can come out in sinful ways (i.e. despising the foreigner), the special love we have for our people in particular is a part of the nature God gave us, and that comes with an accompanying natural distrust of people and cultures that threaten to subvert the wellbeing of the people we naturally love.
And that doesn't at all preclude the coexistence of a desire to share the gospel with those particular neighbors.
@@Ingabobjoe No, we real Christians do not thank the Lord for Babylon. It is not an opportunity it is a genocide of my people and Christianity.
"Thank goodness I've been falsely convicted of murder and now live in prison because now I can share the gospel with my fellow inmates!"
@@Ingabobjoe that makes sense. But what he was comfortable with was seeing a white family with kids. Just because they look like him doesn’t mean anything about their spiritual state.
The people holding the children screaming the whole time loud enough to echo and rival the speaker on stage are either stupid, selfish or a saboteur.
@CaldwellApologetics
@Reformed1 I don’t see the mention. I accidentally found this video