The "not-so-gifted" youngsters! - X-Men Destiny
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The best Quicksilver story I ever read was from back when he was on the 90's X-Factor team and everyone had to talk to a therapist. It explained so well why he is the way he is. You know how it gets frustrating when you're standing in line and the person in front of you is really slow and taking too much time?
That's Quicksilver's entire life.
That series did some of the most interesting stuff with him. The issue with him and his wife was super depressing at the end.
As someone who grew up in Canada…I literally remember moving a TV antenna to get Fox Kids and WB to watch Xmen and eventually Pokémon on Saturday morning.
Good for you
@@NYUMIR Thanks, Champ.
@@charge77 Fox was channel 28. WB was channel 64 if you had pirated cable with the black box lol
So, about the whole "regular people in the Marvel universe who hate mutants but tolerate or even love other super powered beings" thing, I once read this comic book a shit-ton of years ago that kinda explained it (or at least tried to): essentially, because the number of mutants kept growing more and more, lots of regular humans started freaking out at the thought that mutants would eventually replace homo sapiens as the "main" human breed. Other super powered characters don't present such a "threat" to mankind, because most of them are the result of unique and/or extraordinary circumstances, so the same humans that are afraid of mutants don't give a crap about those guys.
How would the average person in the Marvel universe know how Spider-Man got his powers? Or even Iron Man; Tony could be a mutant machinesmith for all they know.
I read an interesting alternative idea from Stan Lee (so take it with a grain of salt). People are okay with heroes like Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America because they’re basically like them in appearance. The first X-Men looked very different from humans (a cyclops, a man made of ice, a guy with huge hands and feet, a guy with wings, and a ginger, yes that’s a joke) so people didn’t like them just based on what they looked like. The idea is bolstered by the notion that mutants were stand-ins for the civil rights movement and racial prejudice.
I like how Matt thought he could fool anyone into thinking he wouldn’t choose a move called “Edge Storm”.
The X-Men deserve more games in the modern. Sucks that this was the last one.
As long as not another avengers like game.
Isn't there a Wolverine game that's in development?
@@chameleonhrt yes PlayStation is getting one.
They do appear in Lego Marvel Superheroes, with a level set at Xaviers school. So ... there's that?
@@Dustemikkel_Rev If we're acacpting appearances in Marvel crossover games, then you can play as a bunch of them in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. Which also gets a whole X-mansion level.
Here’s a random as hell fact that: David Hayter (Solid Snake’s American VA) wrote both X-Men(2000) and X2.
He is the goat after all
He also wrote a Rated R black widow movie that didn't get made but the script is available online
Not that random it was pretty common knowledge 20 years ago. Information goes in cycles
Thanks, ignore the person above, I had no idea and I'm a HUGE fan of MGS!
And in an ouroboros twist, the novelizations of X2 and X-Men: The Last Stand were written by Chris Claremont.
You're clearly meant to pick up Yoshida. The other two dudes don't have any character design at all, they just look like NPCs wearing generic t-shirts and generic pants.
Literally the only one of the three who looks distinct.
I genuinely think she looks cool, especially with the X-men uniform.
I remember that Adrian has this anti mutant hate group tattoo on his arm that he has to cover up with a bandana the whole game, but other that, yeah Yoshida is the only stand out design.
I think thats really supposed to be the point. These guys are just ordinarry people with really no indistinguishable features. Just basic average joes who find out they have extraordinary powers.
One of the random things about Aimi Yoshida is that her voice actor is Jamie Chung, who went in to voice another character somewhat connected to Sunfire again with Go-Go with Big Hero 6, and an actual X-Men character with Blink in the short lived series, The Gifted.
The thing with mutants being hated is that they're common place, and humans interact with them way more than any other type of people.
Pixie was relatively new when the game came out (Since this was based in the 2009 era X-Men stories like "Manifest Destiny"), she was apart of a group of new X-Men that... Never really took an off, but they are still around today.
Jamie Chung also ate a strawberry in a very sexy way in Dragonball Evolution.
I still find it pretty hilarious that the big secret that everyone seems to be hiding from the general public is that since the Celestials fucked around with the human genome in such a way that they created pretty much ALL of what would later come to be known as metahumans, "Mutants" are literally just everyday humans that had their powers trigger "naturally", while all the other random metahumans instead had their powers triggered by some external influence that caused their genome to react.
So there really is only the smallest difference between someone like Spider Man and a mutant. The big outliers of course being people that got their powers from entirely external sources like Star Brand.
I mean, imagine what all the mutant hating groups would do if they found out that humans essentially are mutants, just that most people have the mutant power of being average Joe.
She also won a season of The Challenge
@@buchiklop110 She's also in that Lovecraft show and got naked
No mention of SuckerPunch? Heathens.
X-Men Origins: Wolverine was also a surprisingly decent game especially given how bad the film its based on was.
The extra time they got from the film being delayed helped a bunch.
It was WAY better than the movie. And Wolverines heightened senses became an established mechanic after that game.
I'm sure somebody else said it, but you were thinking of Sunfire as Aimi's father. Sunspot is the Brazilian kid from New Mutants that later bought AIM.
I like how Matt talks about how he had no context for Cable's "Wild Man of Borneo" moment in the 90's cartoon, when... the actual cartoon doesn't offer any context either. He shows up, shoots some things, and disappears. The character was brand new when the episode was written and him being Cyclops' son and a time traveler hadn't been revealed yet, so the show just made up an original plot for him, then hastily retconned that once he became a time-traveler.
You actually brought up a good point about the mutant/hero thing in comics. XD How can you hate someone with powers but then like someone ELSE with powers? It kinda makes me feel like X-Men's universe works better when it's self-contained.
It has to do with meritocracy, even if it's random who gets to get powers, they're not given at birth, and the genetic/eugenic issue
Not that bigotry is justified in any way
@@willps_art this is how people explain it but it’s just hair splitting, it still just doesn’t track on a gut level. Xmen only make sense in terms of their fundamental conflict if they’re the only powered beings on earth
Reminds me about that time in Spider-Man TAS where Peter started mutating further, so he went to the X-Men to get help, only to get upset when Professor X told him that he wasn't "curing" mutants, he was helping them accept being mutants. He then proceeded to rather OOCly fly off the handle, complaining that he didn't want to be a freak, and tantrum quit out of the window, which never sat with me right even back when I first saw that arc, especially since it never... well... explained to me why the universe both behaved like Spidey was a mutant and like he wasn't and ???
Nah see that's why it works. Why do racists hate people of different skin? There's no reason that's based in logic for hating one group of people vs another, just fear
4:40 actually there's alot of fire mutants in X-Men comics firestar, magma, pyro, sunspot, Sunfire, sunpyre, holocaust, tempest etc
- a fire mutant named holocaust
holy fuck, dude
I like to think that holocaust is one of those mutants lost to the House of M series
I’m told there was a bit in the comics where Cyclops turned evil specifically because other heroes were more warmly regarded by the public despite all the good the X-men have done, so someone definitely picked up on the disparity.
He did.he ended up murdering professor x.but he died in the end anyway
One of those character developments I really wish they hadn't rolled back. I know that's kind of just what they always do but evil Cyclops made such good sense as a direction to take Scott in.
@@TevorTheThird It made a hell of a lot more sense than doing Captain America dirty like they did. Especially since they managed to screw that story up anyway.
It's kinda dumb because Cyclops never became a real villain, but they sure acted like he did for like 5ish years in the comics until he returned again. Him and his team became like revolutionaries that fought the government (who were putting mutants in concentration camps) after he accidentally killed Professor X while he was possessed by the Phoenix Force. Later he dies destroying one of the Inhumans' fart clouds (which were toxic to mutants) and everyone, including all his friends, treated him like he was Hitler for doing this. The 2010s were not kind to Scott Summers.
My first playthrough of this game was as Aimi with the shadow powers. I did a second playthrough As Adrian with the energy powers going on a Brotherhood run. But the development of going from anti-mutant to mutant extremist didn't flow naturally enough.
If they had more time and budget I'd imagine the solution would be to create neutral missions. That go out of their way to show how awful mutants are treated with Brotherhood saving them. It would create a justified reason for the characters to think the Brotherhood aren't so bad or their extreme methods are justified.
Adrian definitely had the most intriguing premise, but the story telling just wasn't there to really make it work out.
I’ve always felt that Adrian worked best with the X-Men. That always felt like the more compelling path for him.
Of course, the story didn’t really give much depth or variation in regards to his story aside from the dead Dad voice that pops up from time to time, but I still kinda enjoyed it.
Matt bringing up the thing that confuses me most about the X-Men. Why do so many people have problems with mutants but not with other superpowered humans?
It's cuz mutants are seen as a threat to human existence, because they occur naturally. Also because they're a ticking time bomb; the moment the they hit puberty, their powers activate and can cause a lot of damage, depending on the ability.
There was one mutant whose ability was to destroy all organic life in a town-sized radius. Wiped out thousands by accident.
Because the X-Men were created in the 1960s when it was still segregation and prejudice. The X-Men and mutants represent the people who were segregated and prejudice the most,blacks Latinos basically anyone that wasn’t white. Professor Xavier was loosely based off of MLK and magneto was loosely based of Malcolm X, and The friends of humanity is based off the ku klux klan. TLDR Stan Lee wanted to show how when people are different,humanity gets scared and don’t understand it
Probably because super powered humans aren't mutants.its dumb,tbh
John Sublime is largely responsible.
Humans are hypocrites.
IMO Cyclops best run is when he became like Magneto. His costume with the X mask was pretty awesome too.
If I have to pick my fave Quicksilver stories, I would say that his stay as part of the second ever Avengers team made me a fan for life.
27:49 That grate opened up before you even hit it.
It got scared.
This game rocked balls i immediately traded it back in
I think you mean sucked balls.
Man, I really like Yoshida's design, kinda wish it was used for an original game where you control a ninja in the modern time or something like that
I remember having rented this game many moons ago and suffering big buyers' remorse... except I rented it.
That flash scream edit though. Thanks for that.
I remember seeing this and being like; Ooooh I cannot wait to make my own character and mutant powers, then luckily I found out before buying that you can't do that... you're one of 3 characters. Yeah...
The original concept was that but due to multiple issues it was removed. Matt recently did a Wha Happen episode on it.
Man Imagine you're just walking minding your own business, maybe wanting to try a new videogame, and all of a sudden you see this extremely cool store called
G A M E S, oof, that's a life changer right there, so impactful
My favorite X-men games are x-men Legends 2, X-men 2:Clone Wars, X-men Mutant Apocalypse, and X-men vs Capcom 2 err MVC2. I hope to see some more x-men games featured on this channel in the future!
Never thought I'd see a Bianca Del Rio cameo on an X-Men Destiny video 😂
20:40 no that was Angel Salvadore played by Zoe Kravitz in X-Men first class
2:53 I looove the Boondocks, have not thought about this show in years. Thanks Matt! This is why I am subbed to you
I do remember loving this game for a couple weeks. Then I liked it. Then I forgot I had it. Beat it like 5 times in a few weeks and was still in school.
I got 1000 gamer score on the 360 in this.
I was young and stupid. Well, I was 25 at the time so I wasn’t that young but I sure was stupid.
I choose to believe Emma Frost is behind every single one of those "Try jumping." messages in Souls games now.
The girl Yoshida was confirmed dead in the comics in a mural of mutants who died in some sort of event
X-Men Next Dimension is another fighting game, but might be worth checking out. I haven't played it in years but I remember really liking it when it first came out.
This was one of the games I got for Christmas has a little lad, was determined to beat this game with every character and every power.
I'm sorry :(
Did you?
@@skullking6017 I darn sure did! So much time wasted 😭
We were so close to having a great xmen create your own player game but we got poop instead
For some reason this game is making me think of a Marvel themed City of Heroes or DC Universe Online. If it were an offline single player game on a budget.
"And his powers are super-generic as I recall too."
Are they flight and energy blasts by any chance?
Iron man
Why is Cyclops design in this so awful, but I love that same design on FroZone?
I'm pretty sure FroZone had a belt or something to break the silhouette
On the other hand Cyclops might as well just be wearing a diving suit
Could be anything from a better color scheme to the fact that FroZone is a more likable character.
Gazerbeam is the more direct Cyclops expy with an almost identical design so I think these graphics just aren’t doing the look justice.
I think because cyclops is supposed to be taken seriously, and he absolutely can’t with his costume in this 😆
I don't know why, but I love Nightcrawler's design in X-Men Destiny here.
But honestly some X-Men Origins Wolverine action would be splendid here and that other Wolverine starring game, X-2 Wolverine's revenge.
I played this game on the wii as a kid, never got passed the first level
If more X-Men games are on the table, I feel like I need to suggest X-Men Ravages of Apocalypse, that weird official Quake mod
It is so weird hearing Steve Blums voice coming out of someone other than Wolverine in an X-Men game. Especially when that someone else is someone like Pyro.
'Weird' is Steve Blum playing a cute mascot character, which he did as the lead digimon in the third series.
He also played a role as a scary government agent, but that character actually sounded like Steve Blum.
C'mon man. Cyclops can shoot lasers from his eyes. At one point, everyone wishes they had this power.
He's the biggest self righteous douche canoe on the team, not to mention that depending on which storyline this game is based on, he's the one that killed Charles Xavier.
EVERYONE in the Summers family gets to suffer in one way or another, but Scott is the one everyone hates the most.
Yea true but they made him into a square / asshole with zero personality. He is the opposite of charismatic.
X-Men nemesis is good. X-Men destination some type of fighting game was OK from what I remember. The X-Men games games are ridiculously hard
i actually have the platinum trophy for this game.
I remember the Pizza hut promo , i don't know if i still have it , but if i remember correctly they had to make changes to the first few episodes cause of the way they animated Jubilee's light bolts , but the pizza hut video still had the episodes in their original format .
I hope he does x-men legends 1-2 next
Aimi Yoshida is Sunfire’s Daughter so she’s definitely my favorite character to play as.
Cyclops:
Matt:*Smells blood in the Water*
Bianca del Río X Matt McMuscles is the crossover I didn't know I needed.
I actually played this game through with each character model and power set. There is almost zero difference between any combination of these things.
"If I want to go with a hero that's just fast I would go with Flash" That's funny since Flash is so much more than just running fast :D (maybe quicksilver too, but i don't know too much about him)
I remember playing this to completion in one weekend. It was a good idea that really could have been something.
I still want to see you play WOLVERINE'S REVENGE. That was so much fun. Maybe even like a Zero or Hero episode?
Blandy McBlanderson looks like a close relative of Cole McGrath.
Totally forgot about this game.
I vaguely remember a pretty good Wolverine game I had on Gamecube. Before the Origins: Wolverine tie-in game. Ultimate Alliance wasn't just an X-Men game, you could play a full team of X-Men, I'm pretty sure. So that kinda counts.
Its sad we never had another x-men game after this
The Wolverine referred to Cyclops as the biggest badass he knew in the comics. Poor bastard always gets shafted in games and movies. Being a Cyclops fan is a lonely existence.
Nah, playing a new character with powers I'd be discovering with them on the way is exactly what I wanted from this game. It just needed a better story and gameplay and probably presentation too and the character creation back in as well, nothing big. lol
Was that the same run where he got the phoniex force
@@diamonshade7484 I think you replied to the wrong comment. lol
Matt hits the nail on the head on why I don’t like the xmen being in the same universe as the rest of marvel. Xmen only works if it’s a world where only xmen have powers and so everyone’s afraid of that. If they’re just a sub group of the powered if makes no sense that everyone is prejudiced against them. I mean you can stretch it and say “oh it’s the random nature of mutants that makes people scared” but that’s nonsense
You know I’d never thought of it like that but you’re right it doesn’t really make sense that in this world the public loves and praises guys like Spider-Man who has powers but then hates this other sub group of people with powers just cus they are classified as mutants. Only thing I can think of is that because mutants are technically a more evolved form of humans maybe that makes the regular people with no powers scared that eventually they will be outnumbered and wiped out by the people with powers.
Its more the fact feel that Mutants will replace humanity that isn't really there with the other heroes. Like Mutants having kids can lead to more Mutants and so on and so on but spider-man got bitten by one spider that isn't easy to reproduce. So he doesn't really represent any kind of supposed threat to humanity that way
The inhumans can safe
@@tuffemily1431 if he has a kid , the child will technically be a mutant like Franklin Richards
In general, aren't the mutants in marvel pretty significantly more powerful than other powered beings? I mean phoenix is an enormous threat even outside of the xmen comics. Xavier has the power to control minds on a global scale. Magneto (in some comics, idk the issues) can affect the gravitational pull of the earth itself. Scarlet witch can alter reality. Storm is literally introduced as a goddess capable of creating storms across the planet.
Sure, most of the X-Men aren't that powerful, but enough of them are that it makes sense to fear them over other powered beings.
Mutant apocalypse was pretty good. Also, EDGE STORM!
Dang, Cyclops and Forge look terrible in his game and two of my favorites also the dialogue is... beautiful😂😂
Might not be technically X-men, but the Wolverine Origin game kicks ass.
Huh. Emma Frost's introductory text actually lingered behind her for a second when she turned to leave.
Ah Silicon Knights, that should be a future episode of “Wha Happun?”
I'm a Cyclops fan... so I just shrug when someone doesn't like them.
Edgestorm is readyyyy
This is one of a handful of games I ended up getting 100% gamer score on. Not sure what that says about me.
A like for you as compensation for the A cappella rendition of the 97 cartoon them. Great finish to the video
Well now I want more EDGESTORM!
How is Iceman flying? Is it supposed to be Bobby Drake or Norin Rad the Silver Surfer?
11:30 that's what *I've* been saying for years! how can people, in the same universe, same continuity, somehow hate mutants yet love superheros?? like??? what's the difference, really?????
In the ultimate universe spider man was racist against mutants for a bit
welp, rip, that is unfortunate
What is his power? Earth? Lmfaoooo
18:33 - funnily enough the biggest chain of game shops in the UK is literally just called GAME...
Ah, Yoshida. The character named off of the Asian pseudonym of Marvel’s current EIC.
So you'd like to know why in the world of superheroes so many people hate mutants? Well, it's pretty simple actualy. Thor is a god, Captain America got his powers from a serum, Iron Man has an advanced armor, Hawkeye and Black Widow are regural humans... But mutants are different. Their powers are a natural step in human evolution, they do not come from an accident, divine intervention, magic or some artifact. While the other heroes are mixed with the human populations mutants are there to replace it.
Is there a psychological term for the fear of dying and never being thought of ever again? Ladies and gentlemen, X-Men Destiny.
I wonder if this was before or after you found out about the whole encyclopedia moment during development.
I liked the ninja girl! She was cute and had a cool design! ☺️😁👌🏻 wish she was in more stuff. A custom mutant character would have been pretty cool too.
X-Men Mutant Academy 2 would be fun, even if just for Prof X - his voice lines, punches and wheelchair kicks are priceless!
I got two of those pizza hut mini comics still
I love the cyclops hate! 🤣🤣🤣
I loved the fox xmen cartoon I was in Ireland.
I did like this game when I was younger. Actually played it multiple times. Even bought, played, and finished the DS version. Still, in hindsight I am pretty disappointed with what the game turned out to be after finding out what it could have been. I didn't have the same standards I do now and there was so much more it could/should have done with the character customizations and gameplay/story choices. Hopefully the new Wolverine game coming out will signal a do-over sometime in the future.
Forge was cool because despite his powers, his storylines were grounded more so than the others. Not quite as fantastic. He always came in clutch with macguffin. Plus he and was man enough to tame Storm.
This was loosely based on The Astonishing X-Men comic which had a great start and farted out lamely.
Forge sounds like Phil Lamarr.
What Happen on Babylon's Fall Matt?
The Boys & Gen V did successfully what I think FoX-Men failed countlessly to do with X-Men & New Mutants + The Gifted.
Now… all I want is X-Men 97 & more Marvel Legends action figures.
Imagine how good this game could’ve been if it got proper development time. A fully fleshed out create-your-own mutant experience where you get to work alongside all your favorite x-men characters.
28:17 there is more of the game that can offer matt,you are quite near to the best parts.
I mean I’m late to the party, but would love to see some X Men Legends or XML2
This is basically "marvel's avengers" minus the live services, Ms. Embiggen nor the crappy redesigns for well know characters
Thanks!
You know…I’m surprised you haven’t made a comic book collection video. I’d love to see stories you’ve read and are currently reading.
Hail Magneto!
Brotherhood 4 Life!
A drag race clip on a Matt mcmuscles video? Wig okay
Started this as a kid and never came back for a second session. Kid me had taste
Generic dudes Mc Pants are awkward enough, but it's those dialogue choices that really make me happy I got amnesia in regards to this game shortly after its announcement and never wasted money on it. Whatever faint, barely-remembered fantasy I had in my fogged up brain was better- I even still thought they had an actual character creator.