Because you're using a William Optics scope and the Flat 6Aiii for GT81 needs to be opened 7.1mm so you could also use a slightly longer extension tube than the 7.5mm you bought (if already have one for example) and then simply reduce the flattener's extension accordingly. So if you had a 10mm one that would have worked, you could have used that and reduce the flattener's opening from 7.1mm to 4.6mm (this is more for others who have this type of extendable flattener as an option to consider)
I will have OAG between rotator and filter wheal. No reducer. It can be done. Right? Couple more questions on rotator and NINA. 1. I have used manual rotator and it always tell how many degrees I should rotate counterclockwise. Will this rotate understand that rotation should be counterclockwise 90 degrees but not 270 degrees? This will happen deep in night and I don’t want to be doing anything manually. 2. Could you live stack in NINA? 3. How do you deal with clouds? Could NINA see clouds, pause, check for clouds every 10-15 min, when clouds gone, then resume? Thanks
Hi Kamil, I could be wrong, but it looks like in the background you have a Bower 800mm f8 mirror lens (or similar) 🤔 I was actually wondering how is the quality using it on tracker like Polaris for deep space photography, nebulae, etc ??? Could be a good cheap alternative for mirrorless cameras instead of buying a telescope 🤔
Great video! See your setup complexity is growing, although it allows full automation, which is golden. NINA is an amazing project, unfortunately it's windows only, and not even an easy task to make it not to win only... as I checked have code parts which need complete technology change....
@@kamilkp C# isn't the problem .net core made available it in Mac and Linux as well, the WCF technology used to communicate with mounts are not supported in .net core (maybe independent developers will create supporting assemblies), that's one area I noticed that needs to be rewritten, when I tried to convert it to ARM based SOC.
Interesting video, though shouldn't your flattener be after the rotator so it rotates with the complete image train ? If you rotate after the flattener than I suppose you flat files wont match the full 100% of your image train, not sure if anyone would notice that though. For myself I use an Primalucelab rotator, very happy with it. And thank you for the tip of the rotation in the panels, didn't know that one 🙂
I use the same flats for lights with different rotations and have no issues. Maybe with a poor quality flattener might be a problem but apparently not with the Flat 6Aiii from WO
As long as the FF is clean it wont be an issue. The foremost culprit for dust in the train is the Filter Wheel. Electrical tape the shit out of all those pesky cracks. The tiny gaps around the usb port are source of most of the dust coming in. If it's a ZWO 36mm+, make sure to tape up the screw holes for the APS-C+ sized camera on one end, and OAG on the other. Those attract a ton of dust too, and light leaks, if you're not taking your flats in total darkness.
@@TheKain202 oh yeah I got these OAG holes taped up good! Didn’t think about the USB port tho, will take a look what’s going on there - thx for the tip!
you should make a tutorial about NINA's TPPA and how did you made it to work. I don't know what i am doing wrong. I have downloaded the entire internet in search of a procedure but when i do a drift alignment in PHD for confirmation after TPAA, the polar error is 20 arcmin. PLS be our European NINA guru! Regarding the subject, i found the best solution to the field rotation: ASI 533 with square sensor :D
While this would be a great piece of kit to have, $630...? Ouch! But on a more serious note, (and to be honest, I haven't done any research on this rotater at all) it seems like the likelihood of introducing tilt into the imaging system would be a lot higher with a rotater. Am I wrong?
Your videos are always crystal clear and cover a highly technical subject in detail without rambling.
Thanks!
Just bought the Falcon v2. Love it!
Because you're using a William Optics scope and the Flat 6Aiii for GT81 needs to be opened 7.1mm so you could also use a slightly longer extension tube than the 7.5mm you bought (if already have one for example) and then simply reduce the flattener's extension accordingly. So if you had a 10mm one that would have worked, you could have used that and reduce the flattener's opening from 7.1mm to 4.6mm (this is more for others who have this type of extendable flattener as an option to consider)
Great tip!
Thank you for the video. I was hoping to see you install the rotator on the telescope. It's not clear in my mind how it is mounted.
I will have OAG between rotator and filter wheal. No reducer. It can be done. Right?
Couple more questions on rotator and NINA.
1. I have used manual rotator and it always tell how many degrees I should rotate counterclockwise. Will this rotate understand that rotation should be counterclockwise 90 degrees but not 270 degrees? This will happen deep in night and I don’t want to be doing anything manually.
2. Could you live stack in NINA?
3. How do you deal with clouds? Could NINA see clouds, pause, check for clouds every 10-15 min, when clouds gone, then resume?
Thanks
Oh no! What have you done? Just when I thought I could give my credit card a rest, you’ve found something else for me to buy 😆
Haha. I know that feeling very well 😅
Hi Kamil,
I could be wrong, but it looks like in the background you have a Bower 800mm f8 mirror lens (or similar) 🤔
I was actually wondering how is the quality using it on tracker like Polaris for deep space photography, nebulae, etc
??? Could be a good cheap alternative for mirrorless cameras instead of buying a telescope 🤔
Great video! See your setup complexity is growing, although it allows full automation, which is golden. NINA is an amazing project, unfortunately it's windows only, and not even an easy task to make it not to win only... as I checked have code parts which need complete technology change....
Yeah it’s written in C# which will probably never work outside of Windows. Just get a tiny imaging PC from Aliexpress like I did 😉
@@kamilkp C# isn't the problem .net core made available it in Mac and Linux as well, the WCF technology used to communicate with mounts are not supported in .net core (maybe independent developers will create supporting assemblies), that's one area I noticed that needs to be rewritten, when I tried to convert it to ARM based SOC.
Interesting video, though shouldn't your flattener be after the rotator so it rotates with the complete image train ? If you rotate after the flattener than I suppose you flat files wont match the full 100% of your image train, not sure if anyone would notice that though.
For myself I use an Primalucelab rotator, very happy with it.
And thank you for the tip of the rotation in the panels, didn't know that one 🙂
I use the same flats for lights with different rotations and have no issues. Maybe with a poor quality flattener might be a problem but apparently not with the Flat 6Aiii from WO
As long as the FF is clean it wont be an issue.
The foremost culprit for dust in the train is the Filter Wheel. Electrical tape the shit out of all those pesky cracks. The tiny gaps around the usb port are source of most of the dust coming in. If it's a ZWO 36mm+, make sure to tape up the screw holes for the APS-C+ sized camera on one end, and OAG on the other. Those attract a ton of dust too, and light leaks, if you're not taking your flats in total darkness.
@@TheKain202 oh yeah I got these OAG holes taped up good! Didn’t think about the USB port tho, will take a look what’s going on there - thx for the tip!
Is OAG not an option because of backfocus.
you should make a tutorial about NINA's TPPA and how did you made it to work. I don't know what i am doing wrong. I have downloaded the entire internet in search of a procedure but when i do a drift alignment in PHD for confirmation after TPAA, the polar error is 20 arcmin. PLS be our European NINA guru!
Regarding the subject, i found the best solution to the field rotation: ASI 533 with square sensor :D
Reach out to Stefan Berg on NINA’s discord server. He and the other guys there are very helpful
What about taking flats before rotating to a new target? 🤔
With a motorized rotator you can precisely go back to any rotation that you want to take your flats
where did you place the 7.5mm spacer in your imaging train?
Right on the back of the field flattener
@@kamilkp awesome I figured but didn’t hear you mention it in your video. Thanks
Thanx for the video. I have a question. Will the rotator move while imaging?
Only in the derotation mode for alt-az mounts
While this would be a great piece of kit to have, $630...? Ouch! But on a more serious note, (and to be honest, I haven't done any research on this rotater at all) it seems like the likelihood of introducing tilt into the imaging system would be a lot higher with a rotater. Am I wrong?
Everything can introduce tilt. Even spacers if the thread is machined at even the tiniest of angles.
The build of the train is wrong. If you rotate, you need to make new flats now !
How do you think you can avoid taking new flats?