Mono: The Story You Never Knew (Little Nightmares 2)
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Little Nightmares II. A game where Mono, the boy with a bag over his head, attempts to escape the Signal Tower and the Thin Man with his buddy Six. In 2017, we got our first look into Little Nightmares through the eyes of Six, and since then we've also seen the world through the yes of the Runaway Kid. But today, we're stepping back from the runaway kid, the girl in the yellow raincoat, and the nomes to focus on Mono and why he couldn't be left alive! I know that the title has spoilers, but the game has been out for MONTHS now so it's time to breakdown Little Nightmares 2: The Story You Never Knew!
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My boys! Are back! God I missed that intro, I'm so glad to hear that you two are well (': Lovely job, as usual. Missed seeing your lovely face and hearing your buttery voice (I would like to highlight that that is like 45% a joke and 55% serious). Anyways, beautiful game, very fun video, ciao
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@@Treesicle hey, amazing theory, but i am team Mono, the creators made the game to have a free interpretation, i want to share mine.
1 - this is a distorcionated society, the ugly people is to show how damaged they are inside.
2 - the real evil is not Mono, he is the vessel of the eye which in the game is a lovecraftian monster which uses the towar signal to slowly eat the citicens, the signal is so strong that it reach the island the nest in "very little nigthmares", the maw "Little Nigthmares 1" and the forest where "Little Nigthmares 2" begins. That monster is so strong that it can distortion reality, like make the thin man and Mono, coexist in the same time to make a Mono remplace the other, and the same happens with six and the lady, that lady in the maw is the grown up vertion of six, not another, the monster called "the flesh void" is an actual caracter in some images of the conceptual art which was ultimately not used in the game showed that flesh void with out a presentator went out of the tower and it was a giant baby monster made of flesh.
3 - Six didn't kill Mono, she just broke his heart. Six is impulsive and not very strategic, she has the instict to figth to the top. But deep inside she is a psyco: (look how she enjoyed breaking maniquies fingers before she saw any evil hand, how killed the other child, how she ate the run away kid, how she never hesitate toforsake Mono lin many ocations. She let go Mono because he broke her music box that shows some kind of trauma created before Mono freed her. The one who killed Mono was himself, same with six and the lady, it is a symbolic way to say that both killed them selves. This happened due to the events in "very little nigthmares" like present, past and future are mixed because of Flesh Void. In the maw there are pictures of the lady with a small girl, that is six's daugther who seen the horrors of the maw escaped in a hot ballon to the nest, wich was the house of Mono there are pictures of his feet there. In the end the pretender and the other girl died together and that made Mono and six kill them selves, because both lost their daugthers.
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I read a lot of theorists saying the eye Monster rules over all others in the world and has a conscious of its own, it absorbs the viewers bodies and combines them with its own after draining their bodies of every last bit of their life force(souls). They said the eye was always watching mono and six through the TVs and had attempted to capture mono by using six as bait and a temporary host for the signal, it was always planning on getting to mono since his power allows its transmission to be broadcasted. They also said it felt threatened by mono and six working together because their teamwork would have allowed mono to end his loop, so it made plans to separate them by forcing them to fight each other. But that’s just what they believe, anything is valid at this point if you got the evidence to support it.
when the little nightmares 2 twitter page was asked what happened in the little nightmares 2 ending, they said , "extracting someone from a fantasy can be deeply upsetting for everyone involved", a lot of other theorists are saying six dropped mono because she had become addicted to the transmission in the same way the viewers were. Once Mono broke the music box, he cut her from the perfect false world the eye had made everyone addicted to and because of this she was deeply angered towards mono for breaking her music box and tearing her out of the comfort and safety she became addicted to, so she dropped him. I dont know if you saw the secret ending to the game or read the little nightmare's 1 and 2 comics or the little nightmares 2 twitter page, but there has been a lot of crazy things being uncovered since the games release. A lot of the theorists are saying the whole "six knew mono was the thin man by looking at his face" was wrong because it was the most obvious choice to think of when the game was finished and how these observations mirror every other theory the fanbase first had when they played the previous games. For Little Nightmares a lot of people though six was the ladys daughter, and for very little nightmares a lot of people though they were playing as Six, but the developers said all these things were wrong because they were the most obvious and traditional choice seen in other story lines. Six was never the daughter of the lady and we were never playing as six in very little nightmares. The more the theorists looked into things, the more they realized six could not have known an old guy had the same face as a 9 year old kid and how despite Monos weird activity towards the televisions, six never once made the choice to leave mono even when she had multiple opportunities to do so.
Super interesting stuff my dude!
@@Treesicle if you think this stuff is crazy, just wait till you read the other details the theorists uncovered, for instance did you know Monster sixes room has a picture of the girl portrait from the maw with her face scratched out, a picture of six eating the nome and the same brief case Six was seen in at the beginning of the little nightmares game, implying the eye thing may have the ability to see into the future. Aside from this, they also discovered how out of all the geisha statues seen in the ladys quarters, there are 8 statues of young girls in dresses, all of them have their heads chopped off.
@@penguin32700 jesus I didn't know this games lore was so deep .
I know i missed something but, how can there be 2 Mono in the same time. some kind of time paradox?
Imagine if there was alternate ending if she didn't lose faith in him.
Six is just mad because he broke the music box.
He could have fixed six's hunger issue
@@helmutstein1178 they were caused by her being taken By thin man they were probably exasperated by her taking Mono’s power
@@theulfhednar3915 I don't think so
I am the only one Who believes in the theory that Mono is a villain or an antagonist?
I'd really like for Six to have a redemption where to succeed in the game, she has no choice but to learn to trust, and this gives her an opportunity to reconnect with Mono and stop him becoming the Tall man, but the game is choice based, if you make too many "don't trust" options earlier in the game, you get the Bad ending, but if you do take the chance to trust (which doesn't necessarily lead to a positive experience every time), you get an eerie Friendship ending where you realise it's just a handful of children facing a fairly doomed future together, instead of alone, like a bleak hope.
I hate six, i hope she is relegated to a life of forced evils and the only way to stop that evil is to off herself.
That way she breaks all cycles that starts and ends with her own selfishness. Sacrifice is the only way to make up for these atrocities.
Evils have already been committed and the only real real to rectify them is to make sure her actions can't happen again by getting rid of herself
The Little Nightmares 2 DLC better have a ending where Six pulls Mono up.
This sounds fun! Maybe at the end you cant choose, but instead Six chooses an option depending on your previous ones, if you don't choose enough of the "trust" option, Six betrays her companion and then she needs them to get through a monster or something, if you choose too much of the "trust" option, Six pulls them up, but then trusts others too much and gets killed, and if you balance it out, only then you can get the good ending.
I hope in Lil Wayne or 3 don't be a fight between the thin man and the lady on the mall or that you will place the man and you will try to get sex on the mall
Nice idea! I woud love to see a little nightmares 2 dlc with a somehow happy ending
Spoilers for the LN mobile game
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I feel like another contributor for Six to act on her more negative emotions would be because of the girl in the yellow raincoat’s death in the mobile game. There was a cliff at the end and, instead of saving herself and going straight for the raft in the water, she helped the girl by attempting to stop the pretender with the boulder. This is also in spite of the girl (unknowingly) locking Six out of the shed before this. But it didn’t work and the girl in the raincoat still died. Six also doesn’t attempt to save any of the children in the maw, even using a cage with a child in it to reach a rope. Saving others must have felt futile and the best course of action in her mind would be to not get close to anyone otherwise it could mean getting hurt again.
How Six ended up at the Nest in the first place also intrigues me. I wonder if she had any previous interactions with the Pretender that started this cycle of cynicism.
I just think Six is a sociopath that has away looked out for herself. What I think we're seeing the world how Six sees it.
I haven't played the mobile game and that's way to much reading for me to care about spoils
@ren bao lol, Little nightmares
My theory is that the eye is an alien entity who came to earth thousand of years ago,started the maw, when the food source started decreasing,captured the pale city, made a thinman of their own, made a signal tower, then created a loop replacing the old thinman with new (mono), this might also explain why, in the concept art, there seems to be a thinman that isnt mono, the same story goes with six, then trapping both mono and six in a loop of mono becoming the thinman and six becoming the lady, then theres no need for new food source for the eye which is because the loop ot created provides the eye with infinite food source(souls of viewers and the guests).
Hope you like my theory :)
@@sentientsid07 that is a good theory
40 days is at the high end of how long someone can survive without food if they have access to water...that could be why there were 40 marks, especially since there are so many references to hunger and consumption in this game
plot twist: you will never find out why six dropped mono
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because she knows that the tall guy is mono by looking at his face and taked his powers to pass through the TV portal
@@twowheeledbluecar8058 that's not confirmed
@@twowheeledbluecar8058 if that was the case why did she drop him in the 1st timelind
@@hoobadoobamaster8551 wait 1st timeline wdym tell me bruh pls??
the only reason mono becomes the thin man is because he was dropped into the eye and corrupted by 6! she literally created the thing she was afraid of. it's a time loop. if she had broken the cycle, and chosen not to do that... Mono would have never become the thin man.
And if the thin man didn't torture six, would she have dropped him?
@@squeaktheswan2007 he only did that because of what six did💯
@@squeaktheswan2007 if six didn’t drop him would he have tortured her?
@@keithcraig4263 I don't know. It's unlikely, but six was wary of mono at the beginning of the game. Plus, the website says that six and mono have traveled to the pale city before.
@@squeaktheswan2007 that means she knew what he didn't know.. it's sad cus she did not have to drop him like that..
My theory is that the first Thin Man we encounter isn't Mono. He's just the last guy the Eye selected as its enforcer. When Mono killed the Thin Man, the Eye decided to make him into a replacement. "You killed the last guy, so you're clearly stronger than him. Congratulations... You've got the job."
only problem is that mono turns out to look exactly like the thin man. not only that, but every time we get into contact with thin man times slows down. meaning that the thin man has control over it to some extend. meaning that probably as long as mono ends up the thin man he can send his signal not only into the present, but past and future as well.
@@DatAsianGuy His silhouette looks the same, but that's mostly their uniform/outfit. We don't see their faces.
@@SwordTune I think considering all the time shenanigans that happen we can safely assume that mono is in a time paradox/loop
But what about mono already having tv powers before that
I really think mono let go on purpose. He ate children remains. Six ate a gnome. Nobody in this game is a good person. Mono probably wanted power just like six
Honestly death for Mono would have been a mercy for him.
true. it also would have prevented Thin Man from existing
Killing kids to prevent something they might do later is cool. That's why I love abortion
@@xDeathMarinex couldn’t have said it better myself
Yeah it would
Six thought he would die when she dropped him. Nobody would've known he'd survive that.
Had she pulled him up, he would've been eaten alive instead; the extra cutscene referred to as a "secret ending" shows that her uncontrollable chronic hunger had just begin to affect her.
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For some reason, I always thought of the beginning scene in the forest as the start of a new time loop. Like in Bioshock Infinite with the chalkboard, the TVs represent the amount of times a Mono entered into the loop. I could be reading between invisible lines though since nothing is truly definite in the game.
Wow I like your way of thinking
Older mono can’t kill young mono because he would be killing him self stoping his own existence in time which means he’s never there to kill younger mono in the first place.
but Younger mono can kill older mono but must die the same way in the time line trapping Mano in a death loop of young mono killing older Mnon and becoming old mono/the fin man.
True, older Mono can’t kill his younger self, but have you noticed how the Thin Man never actually kills you? You just get captured and the screen fades to black. What if the Thin Man is nicer than he’s made out to be?
@@rayceo4477 He killed the child six shared the room with and kidnapped six he's not nice I thing he wants to lock up mono(young) so mono(young) won't get in the way of his plans
@@dot-dot-dot2 more like protecting himself from Six
I get, "Listen man shes not worth it" vibes
Mano a Mano 😂
I wouldn't be so sure about it. We know, that physics and probably even time gets distorted/twisted in the signal tower and to some extend outside of it (look at the pale citys buildings). I am not even sure, if mono isn't actually trapped in a time loop (probably twisted in and out of itself anyway). So perhaps if thin man were able to kill its younger self, it would only end one string of of this loop. Because we also know, that the thin man once existed as some kind of police officer or privat inspector, looking at the buro found in LN2 and the artbook, where the thinman interviews a child. Perhaps he was searching for missing children, which were kidnapped by a distorted/manipulated thin man in the first place.
Maybe the hunter was after him because like every citizen of the pale city (he lives out in the woods but clearly the thin man and signal hat some influence there too) he was also trapped within the signals distortion/timeloop. To be free of it, perhaps he wanted to kill the TM, who would come to him with help of the children the Hunter set out as lure.
We know that mono is afraid to be left alone (a prophecy made true through Six's betrayal, who was afraid of Mono growing up to be her kidnapper). Perhaps in his distorted version of being the TM, he made sure to never be alone anymore. Kidnapping other children (because he probably didnt grew up right in his head. Can't blame him there) or even the adults, which get sucked up by the signal/tv to become this fleshy mass with one mind.
Perhaps Mono was manipulated by the Eye to think everyone hated him and hence his only chance for any kind of friendship/companionship would be to do exactly what the Eye seemed to want. After looping, distorting and repeating events over and over (because by the time we plax LN2, everyone seems to come to hate the TM) he probably doesn't even know his own origin anymore or how his phobia came to be. This is his reality now.
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You know I never thought about this, but Six didn't know that the Thin Man was dead to begin with. She didn't see Mono kill him, so she probably thought it might have been a trick the Thin Man was playing on her.
Six worried so much about breaking the cycle and the danger, she ended up creating the cycle istself.
Bruh him saying ''The story you never knew'' brings so must nostalgia.
I think this is the one theory that I actually like the most about Mono's fate in LN 2.
I reckon, if they were to make another game, there would be another child. But this time, a child with power over TIME. The Signal Tower would want that power to both use and ensure that no one else can use it against the signals. So, we would like see Thinman (Mono) again. Would we see Six? I don't know. She's the icon of Little Nightmares, but I don't think she would have as much screen time as she has in the past couple of games.
But imagine that. A third game centred around a child who is learning to manipulate TIME. We have the child with power and strength (Six), the child who can bend and manipulate the desires and evil of others (Mono) and finally the child that has control over time itself...
Next time you die in any Little Nightmares game ever, ask yourself this: Did you wake up from a dream? Or a distant memory of an alternate time...
actually thats interesting a trilogy of games centered around the children with the most impact on this world while the DLCs/ another mobile game/ the comics are centered around other children's storys of this universe
I cant mono control time? I mean the TV is basically a time travel machine.
Actually I'm pretty sure the girl in the comics with the bloody nose and braids has time powers
Shes accidentally creating one over and over
Isn't Mono the person with the power and strength? Since he was the one fighting the bullys and was able to free six, I couldn't even imagine carrying a hammer the size of me.
@@b0rdic0n62 he has telepathy and control over any static. If he Developed more and become More powerful he Can Theoretically Speaking , disintegrate the Tower with enough TVs, also yes he is strong
The doctor didn't come across as taking advantage of anyone. Between his anxious breathing and close attention to his patients, he always seemed more like a victim.
This is backed up by the achievement you get if you spare him: "It's crueler to keep him alive."
Great video!
The thing I like about this ending are the different layers. From the most straight-forward, plot driven view, she dropped him because she realized he was the thin man. From a more character building lens, we can see how she comes to associate mono with being trapped (this came from another TH-camr, I can't remember who), and he keeps destroying her music box, her escape from reality. He also indirectly gets her captured by the bullies, taken by the thin man and even almost buried in rubble. In her head, mono destroys safety both physically and through the entanglement of having someone care about her. Then there's the sheer force of the trauma six has seen. The way the girl in the yellow raincoat died after saying her. The doubtless dozens of friends she's seen killed, kidnapped, and hurt. The shock of living through whatever made the world so horrible and knowing that children are literally killer and made into food.
The moment before she drops him is a long one. It's a moment of realization, hesitation, and even malice. I see it as her realizing Mono is the Thin Man, having the initial urge to drop him, contemplating and doubting her decision, and then making the decision and letting him stew in that moment of uncertainty for all the pain he caused.
I've always thought of Little Monsters as a metaphor for the ways society uses people, literally grinds people up, to keep the system going forward. In real life, lots of children end up as calloteral damage in this cruel world. It's the same for the Pale City and the Maw.
The name Little Monsters has always meant four things to me. One, it signifies children. People call children "monsters," sometimes when they're out of control. But generally, when a child does something awful, whether from a moral standpoint or a societal one, it's because of what's going on in their life and not the same adult wish to cause harm. People are often afraid of children because there's a kind of undeveloped wildness to them. (Which, of course, is just part of growing up and healthy adults recognize that and meet children where they're at developmentally.) Two, Little Monsters refers to how the world changes us and shapes us and it's hard to escape unharmed. We have to do monstrous things to survive, but they're not the same kind of systemic crimes at the core of our society. It's just a little bit of evil.
Third, Little Monsters delves into the complex moral question of a child who does something truly bad or cruel. Again, Six is a product of her evironment. I don't blame her for things the way I would an adult. But there are things you do as a child that define you as an adult. And Six has certainly does those. She bears responsibility for that and has to figure out how to live with it and maybe one day confront it when she's older. Which, for me, comes at the end of Little Nightmares 1 where she kills the guests on the Maw and, exhausted, just sits on the beach and stares.
Last, Little Monsters is about intergenerational trauma. The way children can be an echo of the adults in their life. How the mistakes of one parent can be passed down in a toxic cycle with a, "This is how I was raised and I'm fine," kind of mentality. How you can go from being the victim your youth to being a perpetrator as an adult. How abuse, neglect, and societal collapses creates these, "Little Nightmares." Children who have to do awful things to survive. Who make adults uneasy because they reflect all their personal misgivings and mistakes right back at a parent. And, as this TH-cam video points out, the only way out is to break the chain of violence with love and trust.
The name Six is intruiging because it implies a One, Two, Three, Four and Five. It could be a callous way of naming children. It could be a name indicating generation. My favorite theory is that it refers to the time loop. This is the sixth rendition. In this one, Six dropped Mono and continued the cycle with the Thin Man. It could even apply to the Lady. Could the Lady be Five? Did her methods end in bloodshed too?
This begs the question, will there be a seventh cycle? In a perfect world I'd love to see a Little Nightmares 3 where Seven walks a new path. Maybe you play as Six and Seven. Six with her new powers, jumping into other dimensions and worlds and defeating the big monsters, as with the Lady and the Thin Man. Meanwhile Seven walks through some familiar paths, maybe on the heels of Six, making similar decisions, but having a more open and trusting relationship. The two finally meet at the moment when Six/Seven drops Mono and together decide to pull him up. Then Six and Seven merge, or Seven disappears because Six has changed the timeline, and Six and Mono walk off into a world freed from the signal, finally ready for a fresh start.
I can dream, can't I?
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Her name is six because it's the devil's number.
She is the bad guy, no matter what you think her trying to protect herself from others wanting to get close to find a better solution with teamwork is textbook narcism.
And her narcism has been the root of all of her mishaps and evils that are happening in this game universe.
@@PaendaTube I can still hope for her redemption in one form or another. And I don't think her narcissism is the root of all the evils, the evils are there on their own, but it's certainly an interesting look at what drives people, even children, to become incredibly cruel.
Didn't the creators say something like "If you start comparing the Little Nightmares world to our own we didn't do a good enough job." because they wanted to make a unique world that didn't mirror anything specific from our own?
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NOOOO 😠😠😠 BECAUSE society bad
Then they DEFNITIELY failed, because there's a lot to compare to our world.
@@skeltheshapeshifter2697 I disagree
@@Izzmonster It is physically impossible to make a game who's world cannot be compared to ours in any way, unless you just slammed the keyboard for hours on end and kept whatever came out.
Here's another idea as to why six let go of mono: since he was saying Six knew the face of the Thin Man and that is the same as mono just younger so I guess she knew what the Thin Man could do and so to prevent this she let go of him so that he couldn't become the Thin Man later on but in so doing he did become the Thin Man and he had a thirst for Revenge after she did that. It's like Revenge begets revenge. He broke her music box she dropped him. he then goes and grows up and waits for six to come around and then capture her again to prevent that future event. It's a whole Loop of Revenge
Is this a summary of what the video just said?
@@JokerXII it's not really a summary of what the video said it's my theory
Its basically what the video said
I hate this theory because honestly they don't look as similar as you say it is
@@dixonartaxes8544 dude he literally grew up to be thin man.
Mono's fate was kinda fair for me. Behind Six was a static screen, and she was holding the dude who released a slender man last time she saw him touched the TV. It was understandable. In addition, Mono's fate somewhat stem from his own actions, going after Six, ripping a part of her soul out, putting her in the realm of the tower that deformed her, they turned out to be even. During the time she was captured she could have possibly learned the truth that Thin Man is Mono, if so it's even more logical she wanted Mono dead
I'm late to this but I think you excellently explain Six's character development. It's one of my favorite character developments in any media ever, and usually I see people do a disservice to it by acting as if she was always secretly evil. I don't think she even is evil, and I think you perfectly explained what I've felt this whole time. She's just a child in a horrible, horrible world, and it messes her up. We WATCH it mess her up over the course of the game. The note about revolution fits perfectly, as does the note about her being more fueled by hate at hateful people. Children only know what they see. Everyone I talk to seems to miss that a) she's a child and b) when taking into consideration what she's going through, all of her actions make sense. I think to say that she was evil all along does a huge disservice to one of the most subversive character development plotlines I've ever seen, because it's not often you see a character develop into something WORSE, and if you do it's usually done poorly. Six to me makes perfect sense as a product of her world, and I can't wait to see where Bandai takes her in the next game.
Treesicle: "Mono had to die."
*Takes out a knife*
"Those are fighting words!"
Another thing to bear in mind as well remember how I was saying Revenge begets Revenge? So after six drops mono in a certain ending she then gets a shadow of her face to face which gives her her signature hunger so it's kind of like because she did that mono placed that on her as punishment for dropping him
The single chair in a room sounds like a time out room/Detention. Or place to put kids who were bad and left in there for a time.
I just watched this video and that ending has really left me wondering: did I hurt someone who hurt me because I could, or was it justified? Maybe letting go without the hurt will always be better. This has made me examine some stuff lmao.
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Thinking of it, Hunter might've been the "good guy". Yes, he used children as bait, but he did so to draw out the one responsible and end him for good so no one else has to die, lesser evil if you will.
Also looking at beg on his head, I assume he was at one point a viewer, but somehow managed to escape the influence of the signal and although distorted, he kept a remnant of humanity.
Honestly, I just think the Hunter has just kind of... Lost it.
He's hunting the Most Dangerous Game: Jeff Bezos.
I have no clue why he's hunting it. Could be revenge. Could be genuine goodwill. Could be because he's a hunter and that's what he *does.*
That.. makes sense, why didn’t he kill six? That’s a valid reason!
considering all the broken tvs when you start the game in that area i wouldnt be suprised
Albeit, still very much insane.
That's actually a really cool theory I didn't think of. Definitely makes him more interesting than just "he hunts children and likes taxidermy". Could explain why he made a bunch of people dolls. He's trying to imitate the normalcy the TVs took away.
I didn’t know how much I needed to hear the phrase "The Story you Never Knew" again. Glad to have you back guys :)
10:18 it just dawned on me that it might not even be the thin man that "evaporated" them, leaving only the clothes
it might be another entity...
It feels like Ive gone back 5 years... This video was so great and that classic Treesicle flair was a hit of nostalgia that was refreshing and exciting. Cant wait for more content!
there probably won't even be a rebellion, without a host (a.k.a mono) the signal tower can't exist. So if mono does break the loop the signal tower will probably just collapse literally and metaphorically and everything will probably return to how it was and everyone will probably just start working on fixing their lives.
If there was even going to be a rebellion, it would be more grotesque than the first game. If the rebellion won, how would they establish order? The energy that the rebellion brings would eventually turn the Pale City into a worse version of the Maw. If the rebellion lost, then the Pale City would be worse and more oppressive than it was before.
The creators of the game say that Six & The lady are NOT the same person, so it's possible that Mono isn't the thin man in a time loop (As time seems to work outside of the tower) but the tower may kidnap kids to turn them into thin men.
Mono IS the thin man, but six isn’t the lady
They never specifically said she wasn't the lady. They actually said they aren't related and are not mother and daughter
@@sweettarts1285 yea theres the whole cut scene at the end of the game on Mono forming and age-ing into the thin man, but idk about Six being or not being the lady
@@kiroharrison220 yes if mono isn't the thin man then how would he turn into him he should turn into a different person if mono wasn't the thin man
@@dot-dot-dot2 exactly
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I guess you crack the code of: "longer = more veiws".
Solid video, keep it up!
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Six had to let go of Mono, because her main goal at this point is self preservation. She was kidnapped and detained during Very Little Nightmares. She probably didn't bother to develop some close relationships with her fellow inmates in the Nest since they'll die when the Pretender takes them. Perhaps she did have some friends, but over time as the Pretender takes them one by one, she started to not care at all.
I'd wager that the last straw was when Six saw Raincoat Girl and Pretender fall to their deaths. She tried to save Raincoat Girl, but she fails, and the Pretender manages to lunge towards the Girl and they both die. It was the time where Six cared again, but it ends in vain.
Maybe this was why she was weary towards Mono at first. She saw him before being captured by the Hunter, but she was afraid that she'll get too attached and lose another one again. When she realizes that Mono was Thin Man, she got terribly frustrated that she trusted again, so she lets him go.
That’s the stupidest reason to dropping a child to their death. She lives in a world where she can get killed or corrupted easily. You cannot kill somebody because of your “thoughts” or “feelings”. It takes serious courage, leaving the only answer to why she dropped him because she betrayed him and left him for dead. She didn’t know he was the thin man at all, since the thin man is literally an old man and mono is 10, which means their faces look nothing alike. Nobody ever thinks of this, but she could’ve been using him to get somewhere in the pale city. She needed his help, and when she didn’t need him, she dropped him.
“Too attached”
So what? You’re gonna kill somebody just because you think you’re gonna fail at saving them? That doesn’t even make any sense at all, it’s like going to court and saying “I dropped them off a building because I thought they were gonna die”. No offense, but these theories aren’t even close to being realistic.
@@IhateIsrahell Here's why, and I hope you read it:
Six was a nice girl kidnapped and taken to the Nest. She helped Raincoat Girl by guiding her to where the raft is. We know this because she tipped the boulder to kill the Pretender, and save Raincoat Girl much like the girl saved her moments prior. "Six could've missed on purpose!" It would've been a lot easier for her to let the Pretender take the Raincoat Girl, but Six saved her, tried at least.
Then comes the events in Little Nightmares 2. This is the moment Six dons the Yellow Raincoat, presumably because it reminded her of an old friend. Throughout the game, we see Six helping out Mono. We saw Six murdering one boy with a hammer, but it's most likely due to frustration or revenge for what they did to her. Remember, Six had been through A LOT at this point. The only thing that matters is their survival, and everyone else is an enemy, especially if they hurt Six and Mono. Realistically, we know that there are children who are capable of violent acts when pushed to a certain point. A child is still a human being after all. Mental maturity isn't solely defined by your age, but also by the things you experienced, such as trauma.
Six helped Mono out of the TV, but was later captured by the Thin Man. Now, it's highly possible that the Thin Man confronted Six after all these years, but Six couldn't understand where his hate is coming from. After being saved by Mono, Six reached out her hand to save him so they could escape together. However, there was a pause. It is probably the first time Six saw Mono's face up close. I don't know about you, but my face isn't all that different from when I was a kid fifteen years ago. Same thing for my sisters, my brothers, and my friends. So, given that she's fresh from 'monsterization' and the time she spent captured by Thin Man, Six realizes that Mono is Thin Man. Remember, Mono didn't transform into Thin Man. He wasn't exposed to some mirror-altering magic. He grew into him, as he was trapped in the Tower for years.
Going back to Six, we know she's been through so, so much at this point. This is why she was so frustrated at that kid she bashed with a hammer. This is why Six was so mad at Mono at first, presumably because if he didn't save her from the Hunter, she wouldn't turn into a monster like the rest of the people in the world. Now, you are holding on to the boy who is the reason you became a monster. If you travel together, there is a chance that he'll lose control and betray you. Remember, you've been captured so many times and this boy failed to stop those from happening, only to save you when you've already experienced the horrors of your kidnappers. Now, he turns out to be the most dangerous kidnapper you ever met. Will you risk it? At any point, he could lose control and kill you, you know?
Six lets go of Mono, to save herself. When I said "too attached", I meant that she was hesitant to approach Mono in the Hunter Shack because of what happened to the Raincoat Girl, and presumably to all the children who were killed in the Nest. It's not a dumb reason, and I can tell you as a professional teacher myself, there are children who refuse to socialize because of their traumatic experiences. She didn't 'kill' Mono because she doesn't want to get too attached, she 'killed' him because she knew Mono was Thin Man. If Six really wanted to kill Mono, she wouldn't extend her hand to save him.
Bonus: in the comics, we see Six hiding in an unnamed city, which is most likely to be the Pale City, surrounded by the ugly people whose only semblance of beauty had been taken away (the Signal Tower and the Doctor). She's already wearing the Raincoat, so this was after LN2. Further in the comis, we see Six saved by some children in the Maw, but she refused to tell her past to them. Again, traumatic experience. Even further in, a boy sees her looking at a TV in static and asks her WHAT SHE HAS SEEN, and guess what? She REFUSES to answer again.
So to you, why did Six betrayed Mono? You said she used her to look for something in the Pale City, but evidence tells you that she spent her next few days or months in hiding. Later on, she was found by the Ferryman and taken to the Maw. She had nowhere else to go. Then, was Six an evil person who betrayed Mono because she felt like doing so? Six could've done that in many, many occassions before meeting the Thin Man, but she even extended her hand to save Mono in the end. So, she wasn't evil, she wasn't looking for something in the Pale...so why did she betray him then?
@@Gallade400 to steal his power you dingus.
If she didn't steal monos power she can't leave through the tv.
It is the biggest form of betrayal, 6 wasn't able to pass through tvs until she betrayed mono.
She's evil as you can get, her selfish narcissistic actions put the entire pale city on loop.
And if 6 actually did know mono was thin man. That's even more selfish and stupid of her. She's willingly putting everyone in the pale city in danger and evil for her own selfish gains.
Mono is just another one of her pawns to throw away. Probably like the raincoat girl. From raincoat girl she got a raincoat she will use to protect herself. As she did with monos power. Put it on wore it like a glove. Instead of buying it to pay homage to a lost friend.
That's narcissistic stuff. And you must also be a narcissist if you think any of her actions are even a lick of good. She's a psychopath
@@PaendaTube yea I agree 6 is a fucken monster & the fact that people are finding dumbass ways to defend her is just annoying
@paendabear (this is a really bad theory and it's still in the workings, I might end up scrapping it completely) if six was to steal his power couldn't six just did that before? In the pale city six had to reach out a hand so mono could jump, six could have let go knowing the possibility that mono is the thinman but six pulled mono up. Six had seen mono go through the tv multiple times and if I were her I would definitely connect the dots with that. I also have a theory that six sees when mono dies and respawns and can move about when it happens. At the wilderness when they are trying to get away from the hunter, six is running before the player can get up to start running. She's halfway across the screen when mono can move. So six clearly knows something's up. Six is running before the player can move because her life is in danger, but mono can respawn when he dies, that's why six is running before mono can. But like the video said, the hunter is trying to protect six. Six realizes this inside the tower and let's go of mono. As mono falls, he likely saw his life flash before his eyes and he also commits murder with six in the wilderness and in the school, which likely means he was mentally broken along with six. All these times mono experienced near death moments, he likely had Terminal Lucidity, which if it happens and you don't die after, it could mess you up. This is likely what happens to six and along with the fact that she knows who mono is, could be the reason she killed mono.
12:00 Could be a leftover of a cut scene. There are unused animations in the game files for Mono being strapped to a chair and escaping.
I love when TH-cam decides to spoil something from a game I was purposely avoiding any related content because I couldn't play it yet and then boom lmao
I've never enjoyed *any* video's narration more than here. Even WITH your video's on subjects I've zero interest in (and half the time I end up interested after 30 seconds and dive into the rabbit hole).
IMO that alone is testament to a high production value and competency :) Welcome back!
Dude if I'm being honest, if you guys were to never come back, I would have never remembered this channel existed. Thank you so much for coming back. I forgot I was subscribed, I'm so ready to start watching your guy's videos again
When Six pulls Mono from the TV she backs off from him like she does'nt trust him when he sets Thin Man free
Stupid youtube just now had this pop up in my feed. Glad you guys are back. The world (and me) need your humor right now
We missed yall. I missed yall. Hearing your voices is always a treat, while I had a rough day today, this really just made everything better- thank you.
"Little nightmares had a child, a sequel!"
I love love how gets it wrong just to keep away from spoilers in the intro despite the title spoiling the game
This video is just grate, it’s filled with very good and interesting information to further go into the little nightmares story, I found your channel, and now I’m addicted to it.
I absolutely love how you explained your theory and hope the story does take a route of breaking the cycle of pessimism and hope we'll see Mono/Thin Man in the future xD
But then why would mono where the bag over his head to begin with? Did he already know how people reacted to seeing his face? Or did he already know that he would become the thin man.
He wears the bag cause it helps him hide world hates him and wants him to fail. It says so in his description if I’m remembering things correctly
@@specks9890 Then maybe.. Mono's face was cursed to make everybody hate him by the Thin Man [Or Signal Tower], and Six couldn't deter the curse, so got Mono away so she wouldn't see his face??? Idk, doesn't sound very plausible, I'm just trying to think of something.
Because he has low Self-esteem
@@specks9890 that makes a lot of sense actually. 🤔
@@i_am_only_an_insane_person who knows. It definitely could be possible tho based on the crazy shit that already happens in these games.
I'm so glad y'all are back. You have my brand of humor + satisfy my need for random, uneeded infomation
Wow, thanks! I was really looking forward to playing the game myself but I really appreciate you spoiling a massive twist in the title without any warning!
Because the title and everything wasn't enough of a warning
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Bro I'm talking about the title! The title used to spoil everything bro and so I glanced at the video and got spoiled.
@@hopepapernacky you clicked while the title was obviously already telling you the video was about to contain spoilers 🤦♀️
If you wanted to play this game without any spoilers
Then why watching LM videos the first place?
@@sapphirethealpha5005
I didn't watch the video, I just wanted to complain that the title spoiled it. Like seriously, why would you put spoilers in something that you have to look at?
I wasn't even looking at LM videos, it was just in my recommended for some reason
you are one of those.
someone who has nothing better to do than complaining
i like that as the video goes, it gets serious and less joking, but also holding onto the hope that, at least, the darkness of the world will, one day, be destroyed
Finally. More of the best show out of all 200 channels I'm subbed to
While I love this theory, I do think you're missing some information by not taking a look at the "Very Little Nightmares" mobile game. It just gives more to who Six is, which makes her more sinister than what we're lead to believe.
@super lazy dog i know you don't play as six, but you do meet her in it.
@@feral_ghost Six is the most heroic in Very Little Nightmares.
Chronologically speaking, she would've had to go from there to the wilderness, which doesn't make much sense honestly. Personally, I think that's some other character and not Six, and I've seen nothing confirming that is *is* Six, but I could be wrong.
[For the record, when you look at the events, it would be VLN, the comics, LN2, and then LN1 with the order of events]
@@raspberrytii2393 well, look at the end of Chapter I of Little Nightmares II, there's a door on the shore. And they used it to leave to Pale Forest and enter the City, so why couldn't Six use a Boat at the Nest?
Dude I literally was thinking about y’all like 2 days ago, and then BOOM, new video 🤯. Love this for us
Thanks for this video. I love the story in these games but it can be hard to de-cipher sometimes.
I'm so fascinated to see what is next
I personally think that mono is barley in control when he becomes the thin man. The only free will he has is to track down six and kill her.
Wow, this was such a poetic and beautiful interpretation of such a dark and terrifying story! Absolutely INCREDIBLE!!! so happy to have you guys back! :)
Aw thanks. It feels great to post again 😁
So I had a thought. IDK if it applies or not--but once you said "the hunter was trying to protect six"--it hit me. The start of the game, the tv goes out. We see several other TVs and traps placed specifically in Monos path. Perhaps the other tvs at the start were past attempts by the thin man? Perhaps the traps were placed there to catch mono and end the cycle? Maybe the sack over the hunters head was to help him not see the transmissions? Maybe thats why he lived so far out in the wilderness?
Has it really been 10 months? I moved around a whole bunch between then. And I'm in college. I'm am glad that you're back!
When the world needed them the most...
THEY RETURNED!!!
Good to have you back, Grant! Was worried this channel was dead for a moment. This was a brilliant return to form and very in depth at that. All of y'all keep on keeping on!
OOOOOMMMMGGGGG HWO COULD I HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT ONE OF THE MOST ENTERTAINING PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET FOR MY CHILDHOOD so glad ur back bud love ya
Yes Yes Yes Welcome back, we miss you and this has made my year
I was playing this with my friend. We were in the forest level, and I told her she had to throw shoes at the feet of the hanging bodies. We were both drunk, and she believed me! I had her going for about half an hour before she gave up! She gave me the controller, and I climbed up the cliff, laughing like mad the whole time! I had already watched Jacksepticeye play it!
Lol you did her dirty
I was literally just thinking about you guys leaving TH-cam this last week did the dolphins read my MIND?!
You clearly have a telepathic connection with the dolphins!
Been so long I nearly forgot about yall I'm sorry glad to see this is back
God I forgot how much I’ve missed this
Really great to have you back
GRANT!!!!!!! 😭😭😭😭😭 I missed your intelligent voice! This... I need the stories.
Some people think the reason Six dropped Mono in the out was because either A. She knew his secret, which I believe may be true. B. She knew she would get hungry to the point she would eat Mono and spared his life, and C. She’s just evil. Now the thing is I keep going back to C considering that we’ve seen her bad side when attacking one of the glass kids so harshly, she chewed and broke mannequin fingers for fun, and when the Giant Medic monster was burning in the furnace Six just sat there for warmth unfazed with what had happened. Now what confirms this completely is right when she drops you, you get an achievement called “Your true colors” with a caption saying “I see right through you.” There is no doubt that she was bad or just made bad choices unintentionally🤣.
this achievement is about Mono true colors and Six seeing right through him
@@sheilagarche5858 Oh shoot I never thought about that, so that does confirm it, she knew what he was and either let go in anger or in fear.
Why should six have to be kind to people who are trying to kill them? The doctor tried to harvest them, the bullies hanged her my her feet for hours, enacting revenge doesn't make you evil and frankly. It makes people who use these points look like idiots.
@@goose7215 Although you have a point despite calling people idiots for accusations that have proven her character trait, it is very dark for anybody to rest by the fire that was used to burn a man alive. Not to mention aggressive toward the student, yes revenge doesn't make you evil, but it definitely doesn't make you any better than them. As well as the breaking mannequin fingers which even those who played the game admit is strange for a kid to do. I also never said she had to be kind, kind is letting the students live rather than smashing there heads which Mono does throughout the game. I get where you are coming from but don't randomly call strangers idiots just for making points that have occur throughout the game.
The C theory is really close to being a fact, and it actually could be. I’ve gathered a LOT of proof (if you wanna hear about it, because I’m too lazy to type it. If you wanna hear the proof, ask).
Answer A is 100% false. The thin man is an old man and mono is a 10 year old child. The thin man went through puberty, wrinkles, and deformities since he was in the signal tower. There was no way six could’ve known that mono is the thin man.
Answer B is 100% false. If six was hungry, she would’ve shown it, and she’d be slowed down a lot. Even if she was hungry, she literally dropped mono into oblivion, meaning he would’ve literally died either way, or fell into an even worse fate. If she really wanted to let him live, she would’ve sacrificed herself by dropping herself into the abyss. So the answer is C. She could’ve also been “controlled” by her shadow form, but that isn’t little nightmares style. The developers love adding the most powerful plot twists, like this one.
The multiple tvs at the beginning are every time mono relived his adventure .i think
I don’t know if this helps dude, but you were my childhood, all the other youtubers at the time, you were my favourite.
Holy...wow! You're back! I thought you were gone, which was terrible since you, MatPat, and Lockstin are my absolute go tos for videogame theories. So glad to see you guys again! 😍
I was so surprised when the new treesicle video appeared in my subscriptions, I just had to click it instantly! So glad the are back!
It’s been years sense I last watched you. Pleasure to watch again and pleasure for you to be back my good sir
I'm so glad to see you back. I was worried something happened.
*hugs the tree*
and like a hero that shows up at the last second to save the day you guys return and what a joy it is to have you back youtube already feels like a smarter place with you boys back with your brilliant analysis and boy did you guys hit it out of the park I new this game was symbolic but not this symbolic your insight is truly amazing and when the video was done I audibly clapped it was that good I can't wait to see what else you bring to the table cause whether anyone admits it or not we need more content creators like you guys who do their own thing and aren't little slaves of the algorithm chasing views to affirm their own existences love you guys and what you do welcome back
Love to see you doing more Treesicle work, Grant. Been really enjoying your other channel. Hopefully you are taking care of yourself and enjoying what you are doing still
I missed your faces so much! Glad to see you back!
Was just scrolling through TH-cam, and now I am spoiled on little nightmares two before Ive even finished playing (with the title). Thanks.
Mono ain't dead
The day has come... We got new content from Treesicle!! Missing your vídeos as much as a pet waiting for their owner at home. DON'T DISAPPEAR AGAIN GUYS, PLEASE! XDD
I never seen anything about Little Nightmares (any title), so this was a complete blind journey. Not that it matters, because I could watch you talk about practically anything and be excited! I definitely missed these psychological journeys that have the perfectly summed up "Treesicle Flavor"!
Welcome back Grant and Ryan!
Yeahhh… I’ve subscribed. Love the energy 👏🏾
The people who cured me from full on depression because of their amazing content and light-hearted personalities are you boyys. Guys I can't emphasise how good your content is. I went through shit as a teenager and your content helped me through so many things in my life and I'll always support you guys
Welcome back!
Also, great timing; kind of needed this pep talk.
Treesicle:"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"
Me who has accepted he's gone and the ending happened:Well,yes but actually no.
This was incredible really loved this take on the story.
hey it been a min i been a sub for 5 to 6 years and i just wanna congratulate you on how far you came
When I heard you say: “The Story, You Never Knew.” I got chills. Welcome back!
So good to see you guys back! Also, didn't think about the Hunter using Six as bait.
Just wanna say this video was so entertaining that I hit the like button before the first minute was up.
I find it fascinating how your reading implies that as horrifying as their world is, as logical as a cynical attitude seems, the answer was still mercy and kindness.
This is defintiively a lot, lot more deep than I expected. Not just because I didn't realize the scope of the depiction of society (on my first viewing all these things seemed disjointed), but also mainly because of the angle Six's actions bring. I found myself thinking this extremely dystopian (if not slightly caricatural) society, while highly discomforting and thought-provoking, is a bit tired and cliché. But then Six's response to it all as you read it, is what really elevates it and puts a truly interesting spin on, because it deals with how we should respond to such a cruel world. How giving into the understandable anger may paradoxically only let the world spin the same way. And the general idea that ultimately, humans will always rebel eventually against an attempt to pin them down. I'm believer in that the human spirit can never be completely boxed in.
Really great to see you guys back ! Excited to see what you guys are coming up with and are hoping to do. Really interesting theory and I liked it a lot !
Holy shit! You're alive! I haven't seen you on gosh...years? Welcome back!
omfg that duck quack is my exact phone notification sound and it made me check my phone even though I knew my headphones were plugged into my laptop lol
This is how I always thought of this game and I had no one to talk to about it I felt weird to tell anyone but I knew this the hole time thank you so much for letting people know how I see this game super accurate
There's something super majestic about you saying "I am Grant of Treesicle."
This is my first time seeing the new intro, it's glorious. Wonderful job, Team Treesicle!
Edit: Perhaps the tally marks are made by Six or Mono, counting the days they've been surviving in this world, or how many kids the Thin Man has taken?
I see Six going from the right of the game world and going into hiding all the way to the left, where Mono finds her. Perhaps she asked the Hunter to keep her hidden in his house, away from the TVs so neither of them would turn into Viewers? I have twice as many questions as I do theories!
I don't want to make a Seven Deadly Sins comparison, but we've got Gluttony, Vanity and Wrath so far... maybe Sloth too, 'cause a lot of people are sitting around watching TV and forgetting their everyday lives.
Since Mono is the Thin Man, could Six and the Geisha be the same person? There might be a recurring Kill Your Older Self thing happening!
Treesicle! You're back! I missed you guys so much! Epic new intro by the way!
I cant imagine how long it took you guys to make this video! keep it up!
What if little nightmares 3 takes place in a universe where Six never dropped mono and they end up travelling the maw and nearing up with the kid and ending up either finding a safe place or destroying the inescapable time line.