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Those lists Sargon was referring to #Fascbook having: categorize people as "Hate Agents" or "Hate Actors". Can't remember which is which, but one is for the ones committing "hate speech", the other is for anyone who engages with them... in ANY way. Can you GET any more authoritarian? (Short of going all 3rd Reich or #CCP and throwing them in camps that is... but give them the chance and I have little doubt they'll go there.)
18:00 Most hilarious example of this is the African American History museum in DC. They made a poster intending to attack the meritocracy (what they call "whiteness"), but ended up writing the most extreme anti-minority racism.
3R45U5 - As an Anglo-Canadian man who studied in West Berlin in the early '80's, let me share with you my surface impressions. First the "group think" vs. "individual thinking". Softy, lefty was the default setting among students, no dissent even murmured. Once, just to take the piss out of an echo chamber group and to see what would happen, I started to sing the praises of Ronald Reagan and Margret Thatcher. The reaction was incredulity that one lone person would go against the group, then a goodwill teaching me the error of my thinking - they "forgave" me as I was a "foreigner" - and, finally, when I went really over the top, a slow dawning of realisation that I was pulling their leg... Second, in the Mensa almost every day there would be Communist propaganda leaflets on the tables and one day, a young Communist came to engage us in discussion to enlighten us. When he heard my accent, he asked where I was from. When I said Canada, he started to berate me for locking up all the Indians on reservations. I pointed out that I hadn't done it personally and that the Indians were free to come and go as they pleased, live on the reservation or off the reservation, unlike his comrades locked up behind the wall. Everyone was silent as he left in a huff... Third, one day an ethnic Turkish student was shouting at a group of ethnic German students that they were "racist". Agian, silence, no push back. Probably afraid of being accused of being "racist" if they said anything or tried to defend themselves. To see if I could get a rise out him, I asked him about the Kurds, to which he replied that they were "insects". Again, silence, no push back. It was creepy. Otherwise, I had a wonderful time. Good friends and a few sporty girlfriends. Swimming in the lakes, sailing on the lakes, skinny dipping, fencing, archery, nice professors, great classical concerts, cafes and beergardens, etc. A few trips to East Berlin - an uptight, paranoid horror show. Trips to the North Sea coast. Postmodernism - Lyotard, Derrida, Foucault - was being taught - which I found abhorrent but the professors and students seem to lap it up as gospel truth; once something has "authority", that's it, accept it, don't question it. Embarrassment about being "wrong"'. I'm often "worng", overestimate, underestimate - experimentation - learn, improve, grow and move on. No big deal about being "wrong" as long as you don't get stuck. As long as you're spacious and flexible. And have a sense of humour. And realise no one is omniscient, infallible or invulnerable. Not everything is heavy. Not everything is stiff. Not everything is stuck. You get the same at Canadian universities - shades of grey, not black and white. The sins of WWII hung over the atmosphere and I just wished everyone would lighten up, contextualise from multiple perspectives, analyse in more ways than one, learn the lessons that are to be learned and move towards a brighter and better future. It's a process, we move on, we improve. Nazi crimes have been rehashed ad infinitum but hardly a peep about Soviet crimes - 66 million killed between 1919 and 1959 according to Alexander Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipeligo. Or other historical crimes - the Islamic conquest of Christian North Africa in the 7th century, the Mongol decimation of Russia, Central Asia and China in the 13th century, the Bantu conquest of all of Pigmie and Kho-San Africa in the 19th century , etc,., etc., etc., Pol Pot's Cambodia, Hutu and Tutsi Rwanda, the brutal conquests of the Americas... It's a human problem, not just a German problem. Cologne New Year's Eve seems to have been a shock and shaken up the simplistic, hard and fast categories in currency. The television news is very PC, leftist, coverup whatever doesn't align with the narrative. Only an honest discussion - an exchange of views, an open and noble dialogue - about preferences and predictions can move things ahead, not a pretending "wouldn't it be nice if... " and a "you are not allowed to bring that up or ask that question or discuss that... " "Let's just think up simplistic solutions to complex problems and be done with - there, aren't I virtuous?" Cheers!
Fundamental misunderstanding - there aint no line. Give these people an inch they'll take a mile then riot and say it's not enough. Only answer is to stand up and say "No".
The commies will not stop until someone locks them up or shoots them dead. They've been infiltrating and corrupting the US for almost 100 years, and now they're going for broke.
Yes, have you seen George Soros' comments from Davos? They've all essentially said they're planning a "reset" of the entire world. That's even more terrifying than the crazy, ignorant socialists claiming rioting and looting is a black right as "reparations".
You've got that right Lore. Problem is: they're not even lucid and learned enough to realize communism NEVER works. Socialism is just a step on the path to building a communist society. I don't remember who said it (Jordan Peterson, i think) "believing that they're going to get it right 'this time' is just a symptom of extreme narcissism".
that's the point .. act and talk like you just fight this specific situation which is unjust .. and demand increddibly broad policy wiping away rights and stifling peoples freedom .. rinse, repeat .. to the point a far left authoritarian government can dictate your entire life from pre birth mandatory care trough "education" over a media which has to ask wether or not they are allowed to show something that may not perfectly fit the official narrative .. to what jobs you are allowed or even ordered to work in and how much you get payed for that .. oh and .. ofc don't pursue a hobby which may cost the gvt money .. i.e. risky sports or eating way too much .. since the gvt has to pay for your healthcare .. you're just allowed to move within those lines
@Azhag Dark yes. It's funny, you can Always spot the folks who lack the knowledge necessary to understand Jordan Peterson's talks (or in this case, book). They bring up the lobster quote. Talk about "cute". Hehe.
@@ChrisWillx Laura Loomer has to be ahead of Carl, no? I think Alex Jones must be up there, then you've got Milo and Gavin McInnes. Robert Spencer too. Those are just the famous ones. Sargon is doing well but he's currently mid-table.
Aphorism: "Every age acts as if had just invented a perfect morality, at least in thought or theory, and that every previous age had just been stumbling around for it."
Also, the people with the most certainty that they would have been moral renegades 100 years ago are the people with the MOST fashionable and fleeting morality today.
@@conorcorrigan765 Absolutely true. Someone who is entirely politically correct is someone whose ethics are determined by social pressure. In the early 1800s in the US they would have been the most emphatic defenders of slavery.
@@conorcorrigan765 Yes, I agree. This is common among those who are young and still lack life experience. They do not realize what an enormous challenge it is to go up against a prevailing set of values and beliefs. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, for example, gives some insight into how difficult it was to go up against slavery in the South.
Communism is just a system of oligarch power and has NO Morals. Capitalism is the best bad system of morality ever invented, although the oligarchs control it too.
@@nathanielbugg7355 Aphorism: "Until the day we’ve learned to start the conversation about our adversaries in a way different from what’s the norm today, we won’t be able to say there’s been even a jot of progress in this area."
Sargon is demonitised for his Opinions not necessarily the facts he presents, which in many ways is so much more reprehensible than banning someone that they see as presenting incorrect information.
@@williamhaines7876 Been a big fan of sargon for a long time, but he doesn't help himself sometimes. Yes calling white supremacists the N word and sending them interracial porn is funny as fuck but to the mainstream media/online platforms the second you do something controversial or breach TOS they'll drag you through the mud for the rest of your life. Same with Dankula, he'll always be depicted as the nazi pug yob by Scottish,media no matter how just his cause is
Control the flow of information control the world. Stalin could only dream of the power to control minds a company like Google and social media have. The scariest thing is they answer to no one and they believe they are right and willing to do and say anything to further their cause
The west is running alive with very rich and successful pseudo socialists. These individuals know of course that they can advocate for left wing policies with impunity in the knowledge that the policies they advocating for will never be adopted. This allows them to virtue signal to their heart's content with no consequences. Now where these same people to live in a country where socialism or god forbid communism looked like it could become a reality these very same people would be either very silent or more likely they would be on a plane to first capitalist country that would have them
@olskool shinobi Aphorism: "Generally speaking, ad hominem arguments say much more about the person using them than they do about the person being attacked by them."
Great interview. Refreshing. I know plenty of people rag on Sargon, and even shun him, but he's always come across to me as a fair-minded and perceptive thinker.
Agreed. I may not agree with him on all things, but he is well read and insightful and I often find he has worth while opinions on things for me to consider.
Well he tries to look at both sides , but the Left do not want that , only their side should be heard and all else should be censored... Facebook may well be in trouble for lying about censorship as they are doing it as well as Twitter...
@@reverendnorse Thats the best way to listen to people I think. If you agree with everything someone says then chances are you are just parroting their opinions instead of using theirs to form your own. I dont mean you as in You Reverend Norse more of the metaphorical You.
@@nasbat7688 I don't see how that is in any way relevant but he was an early mesopotamian Emperor and an interesting historical figure we know quite little about... Which is why Carl chose his name and avatar for his gamer handle which later became his youtube avatar... Your point???
Never understood the anti-ginger bias thing. (Not from UK.) It seems like it's an 'invented' bigotry (meant as a parody of actual bigotry), because it's so over-the-top, but it *also* seems (from an outsider's perspective, from hearing from actual gingers (we just call them red-heads; merely equivalent to blonde or brunette, just descriptive) about it) that it has been actually applied against gingers in an actually bigoted way (please correct me if I'm wrong!; again, I'm an outsider to this phenomenon). Anyway, I highly suggest to anyone the Tim Minchin comedic song, _Prejudice._ (Title on TH-cam is "Prejudice by Tim Minchin".) Absolutely brilliant (musically and lyrically), and hilarious too. 😂
@@robharwood3538 It's a strange phenomenon. We tend to get horrifically bullied through school, into young adulthood. I'm in my 30s and still have people say things like "I wouldn't usually chat to a ginger, but you're alright." and I just think of those ridiculous anti-racism videos we were shown as children, only it's real life and I'm not black. I don't really understand why this happens. I suppose it's like any bigotry really, just an obvious target to be called "the other". We're the only vaguely defined ethnic group you're allowed to openly mock in the British military, and it's used to great effect in training. I am a bit extra weird, because I'm part Asian but ginger.
At around 1 hr and 6-7 mins in, Carl said, “don’t be a hero,” and while I agree with that statement, there needs to be an addition: “don’t be a hero, but don’t be a coward.” Too many people just bow down. Carl sort of touch on it by saying to buy a t-shirt to show your support for a person, but it needs to be explicitly said to not be a coward.
@@seekingsomething9026 Bruh, he said that today. My comment stands from the context of 4 days ago. Plus, I think my phrase of "don't be a coward" is still a good addition to his "don't be a martyr" saying.
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It's possible to walk back from that anti-enlightenment, anti-western worldview. I was involved in this kind of communist politics back in college 15 years ago.... I was early to this stuff, and it was before intersectionality completed it's march through leftism more broadly. I was a Marxist back then. Now I'm an enlightment liberal who loves science, the space program, classical music and liberty. For me, it was reading Bertrand Russell, Sam Harris, Stephen Pinker and Carl Sagan that started eroding my worldview and shaping me into a pro-west, pro-american kinda guy.
I hear you! I was a teenage SJW (sounds like a horror movie, lol) and when Trump was elected, I sperged out, *BUT* -- it was only for a couple days. Because I had to get back to my life and work; so I couldn't put everything on hold trying to deny the fact that Trump had somehow just become the President of my country (no matter how much I did not want this to be true). I think the most hysterical people are the ones with way too much time and money on their hands. If they had anyone else who depended on them, if there was anyone who needed them to be functional, they wouldn't have the time/money/energy/resources, to sperg out for four years straight.🤷🏾♀️ So in a way, it can be good to be working class -- I have to deal with the realities of life, like caring for the ones who depend on me (in my case, this isn't children, but the animals whom I rescue and rehab) and so, in 2016, when Trump was elected and yet the world didn't end (somewhat to my surprise!) I accepted the fact and moved on. Meanwhile, the people who have the massive PRIVILEGE to do nothing else but rail against Trump for the past four years, they've become increasingly vitriolic and hysteria-ridden.
The fact that you think it is reasonable to ban speech that makes people "uncomfortable" is the whole reason the leftists have succeeded so far. Sure it sounds reasonable on the surface but if you really stop and think about it you'll see that it's not. No one can have the right to not be offended without curtailing many others rights. In today's "Victimhood Olympics" no matter what you say regarding race, politics or societal norms you'll be offending some vocal group on the internet. The only way that we don't lose freedom of speech completely is to defend all speech, even if it is offensive to us personally. Argue against that which offends you or makes you uncomfortable but don't ban the speaker. The Leftists ban and silence people because they know that any unmoderated site will eventually become "Right" (the leftist definition of which now includes centrists) leaning. Their arguments are emotional nonsense and when faced with facts, historical precedent, and statistics they collapse. So they exclude all contrarian voices until they achieve the supposed nirvana of the thought bubble. Everyone agrees on everything, because should you not agree and dare speak then you'll be excluded too. We cannot protect people from offensive or uncomfortable speech, nor should we try to. Those using threats of bodily harm or posting pornography involving those below the age of consent should be pretty much the only exceptions to this.
We certainly don't have a couple of centuries left to go. We have done something to ourselves that Rome never did - unlimited mass immigration from foreign cultures who do not fit with western civilisation. We have seen tens of millions pour in from incompatible cultures in a mere two decades, not hundreds of years, but two decades. That is unsustainable and is causing social collapse on a scale we've never seen before in human history. We don't have a couple of centuries left, we'll be lucky if western civilisation survives the rest of this one. Even then, for that to happen would require immediate massive and radical change to how the west is governed, which simply won't happen. Humanity, I fear, has lost the most advanced civilisation our species has ever seen, and it was a self-inflicted death.
But I don’t really think migrants pose an issue. The natural instinct to go to Western nations, is based purely on resources. An Asian can earn much more in the West, and live a better life. As for being incompatible with the culture, I’d argue that I have compatibility issues with what the West has turned into. The people who are driving this change, are white. White people have a guilty conscience and do a lot of crap to fill that hole inside them. I don’t think I really want the West to continue, if the current status quo is what we’re fighting to support. Infidelity, saying there’s 56 genders, dismantling the patriarchy and white privilege, mass divorce, being accused of rape so easily, etc. The West became gangrenous 20 years ago. You either chop off the dead limb, to save the organism or you leave it to die. Maybe the only way to save the West, is to allow it to be conquered, and then show people what they’ve done, so we can save it. Hungary was invaded by the Ottomans, and stayed invaded for centuries, but they reclaimed it. Hungarians will never allow people to clink glasses. It’s symbolism of never again. Maybe we need to lose, to win.
Regarding the "rules" of the radical left, it's necessary to understand what their rules actually are. Most reasonable people adopt the general rules of the Enlightenment, which include reason, logic, evidence, and intellectual honesty. These concepts are not considered valid by the radical left. Their standard is simple: Power, by any means necessary. To them, identity groups and the power dynamics between identity groups are the only things that 'exist'. So, once you understand that power is their only 'rule', everything they say and do starts to make sense. They don't have double-standards as reasonable people understand 'standards'. Their only standard is how to best obtain power.
You’ve just perfectly summarised the post-modernist ideology. Link that with neo-Marxism and you have the death of the best civilisation humanity have ever been able to come up with. To think back to 2019 (was a pretty shitty year for me personally) as the apex we achieved, is sobering. Time to tap out of the matrix.
Yeah, power at any cost. It’s simple but keep on mind all the luxury/gratification/pride/purpose/importance of self that can come with that power. The lowliest shittiest criminal in the street rioting can put upon themselves the mantle of just crusader fighting back against oppressive evil and the highest politician can feel like a god of the new world bringing their ideas into reality along with mansions and nice dining and lovely luxuries. You know these people are drawn in by all the supposed benefits they can get at everyone else’s expense. It so obviously looks like the ultimate destruction of life and society for the gratification of the delusional sjw. To them is probably looks like their utopia of shining justice.
Pseudo. - You are correct . This ideology is extremely dangerous to everybody , especially western free thinking and acting societies and China's CCP has to be very happy . This is bad and sad ...
Recent subscriber and just wanted to show support. I think the fears you express in the video are justified, but I also feel that those fears are exactly why you should keep doing what you're doing. This Woke movement wants everyone paralyzed by fear. So, in the famous words of Douglas Adams "Don't panic."
Imagine our great grandchildren looking back at how good their great grandparents had it before their grandparents burned it to the ground by communists in the name of social justice.
You ask for there to be a "line", what you don't cross so people don't fell uncomfortable. This is not about a logical line, or about repairing society. It is about power. The line is what ever "I" say it is, when ever "I" say it is a line. Conceivably, a movie could win B lives awards (what ever that is) and a Pulitzer for race relations and then (under tomorrows line) found to be problematic and need to be censored. That is how Marxism works. Stalin cancels Trotsky.
Good comment. The more you try to protect people from feeling uncomfortable the lower their threshold becomes until they're practically incapacitated by feelings of discomfort. On planet Earth, it's impossible to never feel discomfort; same with offense- when were we ever so preoccupied with 'offense'? Our previous method was to make more hardy people, not safer (according to whose definition?) environments. We should go back to making hardy, capable people.
Having been born in and witnessing the hell of post-red hell-hole, I am happy to confirm, that socialism/communism* is a form of obedience training in that sense: - It is moral and good and just what the Party declares as such TODAY. Tomorrow it may change. And more importantly - you must be as devout at condoning today, as condemning tomorrow, though even that might not save you should someone who envies your higher toilet paper ration decide to denounce you for yesterday’s sins to the local authorities.
Fawlty Towers - 'Major' says the N word in a conversation with Fawlty near the beginning of the episode. It's funny because it displays his ignorance and age in the context of the conversation
I'm not sure but Ed Byrne might have caused a lot of the twitter crap on that, I remember him complaining because he was sat watching it with his kids (who aren't old enough to watch it)
"Everyone's terrified"! You're right Ben and although I can sympathize with people with kids whom can't afford to lose their jobs, I think we're all far too soft and avoiding the inevitable. It might be a risk to one's job or social status now, but risking that is a small price to pay rather than risking bullets later and we know that's the end goal, inevitable outcome if we don't turn this around. It's not like we're even sort of examples. There's a reason that we were told as kids When Being Bullied "STICKS & STONES MAY BREAK MY BONES BUT NAMES WILL NEVER HURT ME", sheeze, what are we allowing here.
Here's what I LOVE about YOU Chris!.......... I recently stopped watching a lot of different TH-camrs (haven't watched the MSM for ages!) but I keep coming back to your stuff because as well as having fantastic guests, you make everything lighter, more witty, amusing, free-flowing. I love your no-nonsense approach and you're genuinely curious and inquisitive. You ask GREAT questions and you allow your guests to speak. It's a genuine pleasure to watch your channel! Thank you!
I was born in the fifties. That’s when grading “on the curve” became a “thing”. So if all of us students collaborated to NOT study, we could bring down “the curve” I worked for a woman who was a bit of a rebel (and a genius) in junior high and high school. She ACTUALLY told me that she would purposefully answer questions wrong because......... to be smart was NOT cool. How sad is that?
I watch Sargon daily, or, at least, whenever he uploads on Akkad Daily lol and i just found your channel! Gotta give a lot more of your videos a watch, now! It was a very enjoyable discussion!
The Germans episode of Fawlty in my opinion does several things, and while to a degree it is taking the mimicky out of stereotyping, not racism. I personally think it points out the issues with over conscientiousness, more than the predujice. So the scene is Basil had taken a blow to the head earllier on and had snuck out of the hospital german clientele show up and for whatever reason he is concerned he or someone else may bring up the war, and he is concerned with causing offense or discomfort. Of course because he's taken blow to the head and presumably has some form of concussion he let mention of the war slip, and the ensues the usual farce that is fawlty tower. The germans take the initial slip ok, but because basil is basil and he's taken a knock to the head and for comedic effect it escalates. You could interpret it that only idiots and people who have taken a blow to the head act on there prejudices (nationalism, racism, etc). Edit the colonel does say the word niggers.
Farrongoth •. Your observation that the essence of the humour is that Basil, in being fearful of giving offense could not help but cause more, is brilliant, and to this poor mind, liberating. You have explained, in one comment, why, in ‘serious’ conversation I cannot help but indulge in the obtuse - and why I enjoy punk rock. In these times I believe it would be a public service, nay, a duty, to do more of the same. But then, I may have been dropped on my head at birth. Thank you. Continue to have a great life.
Host: *Outraged that SJW tv corporation pulled Fawlty Towers episode because of accusation of racism* Also host: *We should ban things on tv that might make people uncomfortable* Me: “WTF?”
I was listening to Sargon on auto-play and this came up.You seem like a decent fellow and I liked this conversation so I subbed and liked.Keep up the good work young man.
In Cuba people are equal. Equally poor. Oh no wait, scratch that, I forgot the living standards of the Communist elite. Funny how the people whose job is to decide on the distribution of goods give more to themselves. Almost like....self-interest.
The greatest irony being that they don't even want equality, they advocate for equity, special privileges for some but not for others. Animal farm springs to mind!
@@DMKA94 I was gonna say something near to what you said... but then i realized equity creates and maintains equality (not real equality by any measure, ever) through power balancing. It's socialism repurposing medical priority of care imo. I live near a black community center, so at one point i told them that equity only works in a government aid or medical context in terms of a functional morality (i participated in a group meeting about how 'we' were going to defeat Donald Trump with Equity even though he lives in another country). So i'm defending equity as a contextual tool of the government. Equality... equality if fuckin' fairy dust and gumdrops. It's a goal like heaven is a goal. Mostly it's meant to undergird the idea that we're all equal under law. America sort of has equality problems, as in, it's confused about equality. Ex. All men are created equal. Lol. And suddenly everyone is confused and angsty about how that isn't so. Equity as redistribution _for the sake of it_ however, does go down the marxist road of redistributing property/ getting us all killed. -Horus
Everyone feels afraid. So true. Jimmy Fallon looks like a hostage in the presence of DiAngelo. Speaks volumes. If Fallon feels fear, imagine how people fear speaking in work settings.
People are going crazy because they lack religion. Like Shapiro and Peterson say: We need both religion and reason (or as Shapiro put it: We need Athens and Jerusalem).
@Lao Zi Because that's the least important aspect of Religion when Peterson (now you mention it, Shapiro too) speak of it. It's the structure and set of values/principles that are useful for people.
@Lao Zi I can believe in a god, or multiple gods, without adhering to any religion... Equally, I could adhere to all the Jewish teachings and not believe in the Jewish God. God and Religion can be separated, you can do one without the other. I believe Peterson is referring to the framework of Religion rather than any particular God - hence he says religion is important and doesn't say Hinduism, for example, is important.
@Lao Zi God is important to you, from what you've said, and is core to your religious beliefs - but that doesn't mean that the tenets don't have positive value without the divine. Or are you arguing that without belief then religion has no meaning? Which I'd disagree with and I think you'd disagree too.
30:40. Both Craig David and Daniel Beddingfield vanished during that early 2000 period, as passed their sell by date. Craig David's biggest success was 1999-2000. [source: Official UK Charts] Bo Selecta only started in 2002. Remember Bo Selecta took the piss out of Michael Jackson "Shamone!"; Mel B Spice Girls "I'm Mellllll Bbbbbeee!" Kelly/Ozzy/Sharon/Jack Osbourne "Hey Douchebags!" "Sharon!!!" If anything, it maybe made them more famous. Craig David was just too dull. (good looking, with no personality) "Modern Wisom" appears to be running the last branch of "The Craig David "secret crush" appreciation fanclub".
Leigh Francis was the person in your group of mates who everyone hoped wouldn't turn up on a night out - super self centred, hyper critical with a decent set of acting chops to lampoon others. His trade was in undermining figures in popular culture and people with unsophisticated taste loved it - Saturday night telly watchers. Don't think I ever laughed - cringed yes. I don't know if he ruined careers but I share Chris disgust at the style of comedy - unforgiving, bleak, self righteous, shallow and depressingly popular - shares a lot with progressivism.
Fiona yeah we’re in a time where if you’re a well meaning person who is also against SJW culture, you’ll still unwittingly infected by the lefty racist virus in how loudly you find yourself signalling one way or another. The only way to be truely above it is to never talk about it.
@@hitsounds It was 20 years ago... when boys were boys. (Cute to see Chris going 'all blush' over Craig David. Hopefully he will invite Craig David over for an 'in depth' podcast)
Aphorism: "Morality is the age-old practise of identifying the values and interests of one’s group or society with the values and interests of humanity everywhere and for all time."
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We have a paradox here: a communist revolution sustained by capitalists working with professors who constitute a priesthood of sorts, with the Universities as temples of a multitude off gods.
Describing 2020 to a coma patient: you should've stayed where you were for a bit longer mate. All kidding aside, I subscribed. You come from a neutral point of view and aren't afraid of just asking questions. This in a zeitgeist in which we somehow aren't allowed to question, we are either for or against no questions asked. I find this as frightening as you do. Therefore you have my support.
It's a paradox that they think consciousness is supreme over biology. Because if I will to be a woman (I don't), then I want my biology to be of a woman. So what's more important to me ? My will or my biology? Certainly my biology if I want it changed so badly.
Biology is just a bundle of theories about life forms. As for consciousness, that is something that philosophic materialism, which is the mindset of the Enlightenment. wants to make subject to physics, which is a bundle of theories about Bodies in motion. It is still a mystery how consciousness fits into the history of either science.
I think this "consciousness is supreme" is a lot about not taking responsible for anything in the biological/physical world. In this thought world anything is possible and nothing matters and we can all be free and follow our dreams and the state (whoever that would be jn such a world) should provide food and shelter
@@gzoechi I agree... very much. I take this a step farther: the base problem with this "thought world" is that it involves "the other". For example, one's own body. From the perspective of consciousnesses, it is possible to look at the body as a partner in the existential experience, meaning treating it respectfully and taking its needs into account. It is also possible to look at it as unnecessary, a burden, a block to freedom, etc... So the belief in this thought world amounts to a desire to live solipsistically. Not wanting to be tied down by the wants, needs, hopes, etc. of others, and wanting to be, quite literally, in control of everything. It comes down to a pure power trip, where there is no other (or that the other can be brushed aside without any consequences). Seeing this root is, I think, quite useful in unraveling the practical ramifications e.g. treating the body poorly being a major cause of disease; treating other people poorly being a major cause of loneliness and existential pain; and treating the entire experience poorly (by believing in the need to control it all) being the major cause of angst in general.
@@konberner170 I think this basically boils down to leaving Neverland behind and grow up or stay. The later works fine as long as daddy pays the bills. The system is completely broken in regard to guiding or forcing people to grow up.
Aphorism: "Our fine age has something new to offer to the palate, culturally speaking: moral hypersensitivity dished up with extreme crudity if not cruelty."
Saw this in the TimCast comment section. Thought you might like to see it: never cared: -I never cared if you were “gay” until you started shoving it in my face, and the faces of my children. -I never cared what color you were, until you started blaming my race for your problems. -I never cared about your political affiliation until you started to condemn me for mine. -I never cared where you were born until you wanted to erase my history and blame my ancestors for your current problems. -I never cared if you were well-off or poor, until you said you were discriminated against, when I was promoted because I worked harder. -I never cared if your beliefs were different from mine, until you said my beliefs were wrong. NOW I CARE! My patience and tolerance are gone. I’m not alone in feeling this way, there are millions of us who do......and we have had enough! -Anonymous
Aphorism: "It’s seldom admitted that, while morality is undoubtedly caught up in history as specific foundational moments and avenues of progress and development, it’s also implicated in radically and suddenly changing circumstances. It’s not so predictable as is commonly assumed, in other words, and even contains a powerful X factor."
Aphorism: "If every generation could hear what certain representatives of the preceding ones said, they would know that they too thought they could cut through the Gordian knot of morality."
As much as I have problems with TH-cam (for reasons great and small), I do appreciate their logarithm that sent me the link to this conversation between two guys I've not heard, or heard OF, before, and I'm really enjoying what they've got to say. I'll make some effort to get to know them a bit more in the future.
“The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' - this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.” - Aldous Huxley
You might be conflating financial diversity with a diversity of appearance. That being said, financial equality is a pointless goal. But a dignified financial floor is very valuable.
I`ve heard that German people just loved that episode of "Fawlty Towers". Apparently, they also love "Allo, Allo", perhaps the next one for the chop by the BBC.
Yes, Germans love it. They recognise the genius of British humour. I‘m yet to meet a German who finds it offensive. Maybe the Chancellor, but that shouldn’t surprise anyone.
I happened to run across this video. Chap speaking with Sargon is absolutely brilliant, ill definitely subscribe. Interested to litsen to more of your content, and I wish you all the success.
41:00 There is no 'line'. In this 'ideology' you're either on the offensive, or you're a potential victim. It is the early stages of what develops into 'secret police'. If a 'line' could be established, then there would be a point of contest where reason would ultimately dominate because of its relationship with material reality. As long as their emphasis is on undefined conceptual notions, attempts at confrontation are the equivalent of trying to pressurize the endless vacuum of space.
29:30 German here. The reason why you dont hear much about Germay in the context of social justice is that we as a society are much more obedient to and disconnected from our authorities (at least up until the migrant crisis in 2015). This is in part a result of post WWII demoralization and the founding of the modern Germany on the mythos of our original sin that was the Holocaust. Critical elements of social jusice for example, like this gender stuff have been de facto national politics for 25 years now. It is called "Gender Mainstreaming" and has been OFFICIAL european politics for pretty much EXACTLY 2 decades now. It gets silently implemented and since we germans, as a society are so... Disconnected and pathologically uncurious about the state of our elites, they were able to implement these things without our consent and even without anyone noticing really. To this day, you will find barely any german who knows what Gender Mainstreaming is, what it means and that it is official policy. And everyone that notices and sounds the alarm is just branded a right wing conspiracy theorist and immediately discredited and shut down. Given our history, these words carry even more weight than in most other countries, GB and USA included. And thus it was able to worm its way into our society much more silently and over a longer period of time. A slow cook if you will. You anglos only really were confronted with it HEAD ON for the past 5 years, what was implemented through the backdoor in continental europe over 2 decades ago and protected from scrutiny through a combination of lethargy and "benign" authoritarianism in the form of media and politics gatekeeping what your opinion of it has to be. And this is why it plays out much differently. We germans have been slowly cooked in it, while you were thrown into the boiling water. And this is also why I personally am so invested in how you anglos will deal with this ideology because you are MUCH more resiliant against it and werent worn down by it for as long as we have. And this ideology has hit you much quicker and more open and I sincerely hope that it will burn itself out at one point. At which point it can be addressed here in central europe as well. But not before you guys demonstrated that it can be defeated and show it for the evil, nihilistic garbage that it is. I would argue that what you are witnessing now in the anglo sphere has been birthed here in Germany/France and then haphazardly imported into the rest of the world. Sorry for that, guys. Seems like Germany and France seem to be ground zero for bad ideas. If you decide to nuke us from orbit, I wouldnt even be mad anymore.
3R45U5 - As an Anglo-Canadian man who studied in West Berlin in the early '80's, let me share with you my surface impressions. First the "group think" vs. "individual thinking". Softy, lefty was the default setting among students, no dissent even murmured. Once, just to take the piss out of an echo chamber group and to see what would happen, I started to sing the praises of Ronald Reagan and Margret Thatcher. The reaction was incredulity that one lone person would go against the group, then a goodwill teaching me the error of my thinking - they "forgave" me as I was a "foreigner" - and, finally, when I went really over the top, a slow dawning of realisation that I was pulling their leg... Second, in the Mensa almost every day there would be Communist propaganda leaflets on the tables and one day, a young Communist came to engage us in discussion to enlighten us. When he heard my accent, he asked where I was from. When I said Canada, he started to berate me for locking up all the Indians on reservations. I pointed out that I hadn't done it personally and that the Indians were free to come and go as they pleased, live on the reservation or off the reservation, unlike his comrades locked up behind the wall. Everyone was silent as he left in a huff... Third, one day an ethnic Turkish student was shouting at a group of ethnic German students that they were "racist". Agian, silence, no push back. Probably afraid of being accused of being "racist" if they said anything or tried to defend themselves. To see if I could get a rise out him, I asked him about the Kurds, to which he replied that they were "insects". Again, silence, no push back. It was creepy. Otherwise, I had a wonderful time. Good friends and a few sporty girlfriends. Swimming in the lakes, sailing on the lakes, skinny dipping, fencing, archery, nice professors, great classical concerts, cafes and beergardens, etc. A few trips to East Berlin - an uptight, paranoid horror show. Trips to the North Sea coast. Postmodernism - Lyotard, Derrida, Foucault - was being taught - which I found abhorrent but the professors and students seem to lap it up as gospel truth; once something has "authority", that's it, accept it, don't question it. Embarrassment about being "wrong"'. I'm often "worng", overestimate, underestimate - experimentation - learn, improve, grow and move on. No big deal about being "wrong" as long as you don't get stuck. As long as you're spacious and flexible. And have a sense of humour. And realise no one is omniscient, infallible or invulnerable. Not everything is heavy. Not everything is stiff. Not everything is stuck. You get the same at Canadian universities - shades of grey, not black and white. The sins of WWII hung over the atmosphere and I just wished everyone would lighten up, contextualise from multiple perspectives, analyse in more ways than one, learn the lessons that are to be learned and move towards a brighter and better future. It's a process, we move on, we improve. Nazi crimes have been rehashed ad infinitum but hardly a peep about Soviet crimes - 66 million killed between 1919 and 1959 according to Alexander Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipeligo. Or other historical crimes - the Islamic conquest of Christian North Africa in the 7th century, the Mongol decimation of Russia, Central Asia and China in the 13th century, the Bantu conquest of all of Pigmie and Kho-San Africa in the 19th century , etc,., etc., etc., Pol Pot's Cambodia, Hutu and Tutsi Rwanda, the brutal conquests of the Americas... It's a human problem, not just a German problem. Cologne New Year's Eve seems to have been a shock and shaken up the simplistic, hard and fast categories in currency. The television news is very PC, leftist, coverup whatever doesn't align with the narrative. Only an honest discussion - an exchange of views, an open and noble dialogue - about preferences and predictions can move things ahead, not a pretending "wouldn't it be nice if... " and a "you are not allowed to bring that up or ask that question or discuss that... " "Let's just think up simplistic solutions to complex problems and be done with - there, aren't I virtuous?" Cheers!
Man, this is so sad. I got whiffs that the German culture had swung 180° into guilt mode, notably from Harry Enfield's great sketch character "Jurgen the German" in the early '90s - who would go about his day using every mundane interaction to apologise to random strangers for "my country's actions during the War". I saw the truth in that sketch even then and have hoped ever since that it doesn't represent too many of the German people. We all need balance and stability, not an eternal oscillation between extremes - and we are NOT responsible for things that happened before we were born.
musicalfringe - Yeah, this was in the early '80's. I think people are starting to move towards a more reasonable, contextual positions. Especially after Cologne New Year's Eve: 1) foreigners can do no wrong and we are guilty vs. emancipated women's right to party outside without being molested by strangers. The contradictions of the left will collapse upon themselves and biological human nature - not political abstractions - will retake the field. Here's looking at you, Germany! Zum Wohl! Cheers!
@@virvisquevir3320 I hope you're right. I hung around with a bunch of Germans during the 14 World Cup and didn't sense any of this. We got on wonderfully.
Carl: You are mixing up the episodes of Fawlty Towers. The German episode was where a group of older Germans came to stay at the inn and Basil kept warning all his staff not to mention the war, but then he himself could not stop mentioning the war to the German guests.
Truly sad that two such intelligent well-intentioned men dance around a reality as bright as the noon sun. Universal humanism and rejection of tribalism will place one at a disadvantage in a fight, which they readily acknowledge this to be.
First time viewer here. Cheers! In only a few minutes of the interview, you (the host; sry don't know your name yet) asked such good questions and *also* made several insightful comments and (importantly, as an interview host) *helpful prompts* to Sargon, that I've already clicked Like for this video. You impressed me with your interviewing skills/talents very quickly. Kudos to you! Best wishes to you and your channel! (BTW: Might as well build up your 'channel' outside of TH-cam, diversify and decentralize your 'brand' sooner rather than later. If you provide the service of 'reasonable, insightful interview host' to people like Sargon and others, it's only a matter of time before they come after you, too. Just a suggestion. 🙂) Honestly, the only reason I'm not subscribing immediately is that I use this account for more recreational (and less political/controversial) content, and I don't want it to become too imbalanced with political/controversial content; I got burned out on too much politics, and I need me a more recreational balance in my life at this time. Otherwise, I would have insta-subscribed. Again, best of luck with everything! You're the kind of reasonable voice I would usually actively support (at an earlier point in my life), so I honestly wish you great success. At the very least, I'll be watching many more of your videos (in a more-recreational way, though) in the future, liking them, and possibly commenting on them; hopefully that will provide at least a modicum of support. Already looking forward to your recent Molyneux interview (I don't really like him / his message much, but I *am* interested enough to see him interviewed by a reasonable host such as yourself; I'd rather get a balanced perspective on what happened to him than from someone of an either pro- or anti- stance), which I'll be watching next. 🤔😊 Cheers, man, and again, kudos! 😎👍
It truly is a sad world when the likes of Milo Yiannopoulos, Stefan Molyneux and yourself et al, opt to live your lives at the whim of the woke-Khmer-Rouge! Hurry up n start a conservative platform - or even one that's simply dedicated to free expression - so we can take back the internet!
I really thought COVID would give leftycommies a new sense of awareness that their are better things in life than arguing with strangers on Twitter but no sadly......
Some would argue that social media is a bad thing for accelerating and exacerbating the current situation, however this has been brewing for some time, but like a frog in the pan, the heat was rising so slowly that we never noticed it. Social media just turned the burner to upto the max, so now the frog can feel the heat rising. Without the acceleration of social media, we may never have noticed until it was to late
Aphorism: "It seems almost inevitable that, in certain areas of human development and interaction and over varying periods of time, public morality will swing from the most outrageous insensitivity to the most incredible hyper-sensitivity. Now if these historical flips had nothing to do with the fact that morality itself can be immoral, that it can be used as a weapon or that it can easily have a fashionable or expedient side to it, then the end result couldn’t be other than entirely satisfactory. The fact that it’s never this way seems to indicate that morality itself is every bit as complicated as human nature and that its cherished principles, whatever or wherever they may be, are the most useful, elegant, and seductive aspects of a grand over-simplification."
@@nathanielbugg7355 Aphorism: "There is both a collective intelligence and a collective stupidity that far surpass anything any individual is capable of."
@@nathanielbugg7355 Aphorism: "Yes, the binary way of thinking - the “yes or no” or “true or false” way of construing or constituting reality - is dominant in science. But will anyone claim that discussing current events or the politics of the day is scientific? Why then is there this collective will to treat public matters, even those of a controversial nature, as if their structure and movement were as accessible to the mind as chemical or physical events? What generates this rush to find solid ground that, in the flux of things, can only prove illusory? What if not the heat of the moment, the lack of concern for long-term findings, the “unscientific” approach to this flux, and the multitude of desires and interests that comprise it?"
@@nathanielbugg7355 Aphorism: "The fatal weakness of a civilization is that its hundreds, if not thousands of years of development can be undone beyond repair cataclysmically"
Had a thought when Carl brought up seeking moral perfection. Really just reminded me of the world that came about in Tron as a result of Clu creating the "perfect system"
It was indeed Ronald Reagan who said, “I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.”
I’ve always really liked Sargon, there’s just something about him that made me think that he’s a good dude. And the way he was targeted felt unwarranted to me and it just served to further damage my opinion of the “mainstream” media.
omfg! Fawlty Towers with John Cleese mocking Hitler got banned?!?! -_- I have this entire series on DVD transcribed to work on a USA DVD player. I own that episode and I'm going to go spam watching it over and over all day today. Silly Walking all day long and God save the Queen!!! Tomorrow will be The Young Ones with Ade Edmonson mocking Castro. Viva El Presidente!!!!!!
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Those lists Sargon was referring to #Fascbook having: categorize people as "Hate Agents" or "Hate Actors". Can't remember which is which, but one is for the ones committing "hate speech", the other is for anyone who engages with them... in ANY way. Can you GET any more authoritarian? (Short of going all 3rd Reich or #CCP and throwing them in camps that is... but give them the chance and I have little doubt they'll go there.)
18:00
Most hilarious example of this is the African American History museum in DC.
They made a poster intending to attack the meritocracy (what they call "whiteness"), but ended up writing the most extreme anti-minority racism.
Yeah, one of the things they said that made me laugh my balls off was that "delayed gratification" was a white thing. As in "PATIENCE" lol
Will power *
I was floored when I read that thing
@@TimLevi hahaha 😂😂
3R45U5 - As an Anglo-Canadian man who studied in West Berlin in the early '80's, let me share with you my surface impressions.
First the "group think" vs. "individual thinking". Softy, lefty was the default setting among students, no dissent even murmured. Once, just to take the piss out of an echo chamber group and to see what would happen, I started to sing the praises of Ronald Reagan and Margret Thatcher. The reaction was incredulity that one lone person would go against the group, then a goodwill teaching me the error of my thinking - they "forgave" me as I was a "foreigner" - and, finally, when I went really over the top, a slow dawning of realisation that I was pulling their leg...
Second, in the Mensa almost every day there would be Communist propaganda leaflets on the tables and one day, a young Communist came to engage us in discussion to enlighten us. When he heard my accent, he asked where I was from. When I said Canada, he started to berate me for locking up all the Indians on reservations. I pointed out that I hadn't done it personally and that the Indians were free to come and go as they pleased, live on the reservation or off the reservation, unlike his comrades locked up behind the wall. Everyone was silent as he left in a huff...
Third, one day an ethnic Turkish student was shouting at a group of ethnic German students that they were "racist". Agian, silence, no push back. Probably afraid of being accused of being "racist" if they said anything or tried to defend themselves. To see if I could get a rise out him, I asked him about the Kurds, to which he replied that they were "insects". Again, silence, no push back. It was creepy.
Otherwise, I had a wonderful time. Good friends and a few sporty girlfriends. Swimming in the lakes, sailing on the lakes, skinny dipping, fencing, archery, nice professors, great classical concerts, cafes and beergardens, etc. A few trips to East Berlin - an uptight, paranoid horror show. Trips to the North Sea coast.
Postmodernism - Lyotard, Derrida, Foucault - was being taught - which I found abhorrent but the professors and students seem to lap it up as gospel truth; once something has "authority", that's it, accept it, don't question it. Embarrassment about being "wrong"'. I'm often "worng", overestimate, underestimate - experimentation - learn, improve, grow and move on. No big deal about being "wrong" as long as you don't get stuck. As long as you're spacious and flexible. And have a sense of humour. And realise no one is omniscient, infallible or invulnerable. Not everything is heavy. Not everything is stiff. Not everything is stuck.
You get the same at Canadian universities - shades of grey, not black and white.
The sins of WWII hung over the atmosphere and I just wished everyone would lighten up, contextualise from multiple perspectives, analyse in more ways than one, learn the lessons that are to be learned and move towards a brighter and better future. It's a process, we move on, we improve. Nazi crimes have been rehashed ad infinitum but hardly a peep about Soviet crimes - 66 million killed between 1919 and 1959 according to Alexander Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipeligo. Or other historical crimes - the Islamic conquest of Christian North Africa in the 7th century, the Mongol decimation of Russia, Central Asia and China in the 13th century, the Bantu conquest of all of Pigmie and Kho-San Africa in the 19th century , etc,., etc., etc., Pol Pot's Cambodia, Hutu and Tutsi Rwanda, the brutal conquests of the Americas... It's a human problem, not just a German problem.
Cologne New Year's Eve seems to have been a shock and shaken up the simplistic, hard and fast categories in currency. The television news is very PC, leftist, coverup whatever doesn't align with the narrative. Only an honest discussion - an exchange of views, an open and noble dialogue - about preferences and predictions can move things ahead, not a pretending "wouldn't it be nice if... " and a "you are not allowed to bring that up or ask that question or discuss that... " "Let's just think up simplistic solutions to complex problems and be done with - there, aren't I virtuous?"
Cheers!
Damn, well said.
Sounds familiar, though from living in the PRC, and then watching it slowly constrict on Western academia over the years.
Wish more people had the courage to speak the truth. That is the only way this insanity will stop. Thank you
Top comment good man!
@@snopure k
Fundamental misunderstanding - there aint no line. Give these people an inch they'll take a mile then riot and say it's not enough. Only answer is to stand up and say "No".
The commies will not stop until someone locks them up or shoots them dead. They've been infiltrating and corrupting the US for almost 100 years, and now they're going for broke.
Yes, have you seen George Soros' comments from Davos? They've all essentially said they're planning a "reset" of the entire world. That's even more terrifying than the crazy, ignorant socialists claiming rioting and looting is a black right as "reparations".
You've got that right Lore. Problem is: they're not even lucid and learned enough to realize communism NEVER works. Socialism is just a step on the path to building a communist society. I don't remember who said it (Jordan Peterson, i think) "believing that they're going to get it right 'this time' is just a symptom of extreme narcissism".
that's the point .. act and talk like you just fight this specific situation which is unjust .. and demand increddibly broad policy wiping away rights and stifling peoples freedom ..
rinse, repeat .. to the point a far left authoritarian government can dictate your entire life from pre birth mandatory care trough "education" over a media which has to ask wether or not they are allowed to show something that may not perfectly fit the official narrative .. to what jobs you are allowed or even ordered to work in and how much you get payed for that .. oh and .. ofc don't pursue a hobby which may cost the gvt money .. i.e. risky sports or eating way too much .. since the gvt has to pay for your healthcare .. you're just allowed to move within those lines
@Azhag Dark yes. It's funny, you can Always spot the folks who lack the knowledge necessary to understand Jordan Peterson's talks (or in this case, book). They bring up the lobster quote. Talk about "cute". Hehe.
UPDATE: Sargon has now been removed from Spreadshirt site too! Even more demonetized.
His assistant told me yesterday. Take the crown Carl 😂👑
That makes 2 vendors, a crowdfunding site, and 4 TH-cam channels. Impressive that he hasn't been outright deleted. **knocks on wood**
@@ChrisWillx Laura Loomer has to be ahead of Carl, no? I think Alex Jones must be up there, then you've got Milo and Gavin McInnes. Robert Spencer too. Those are just the famous ones. Sargon is doing well but he's currently mid-table.
Shit! I was gonna buy another shirt.
at this rate my Sargon shirts will be collector items. The pillow goes to the grave with me!
Aphorism: "Every age acts as if had just invented a perfect morality, at least in thought or theory, and that every previous age had just been stumbling around for it."
Also, the people with the most certainty that they would have been moral renegades 100 years ago are the people with the MOST fashionable and fleeting morality today.
@@conorcorrigan765
Absolutely true. Someone who is entirely politically correct is someone whose ethics are determined by social pressure. In the early 1800s in the US they would have been the most emphatic defenders of slavery.
@@conorcorrigan765 Yes, I agree. This is common among those who are young and still lack life experience. They do not realize what an enormous challenge it is to go up against a prevailing set of values and beliefs. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn, for example, gives some insight into how difficult it was to go up against slavery in the South.
Communism is just a system of oligarch power and has NO Morals. Capitalism is the best bad system of morality ever invented, although the oligarchs control it too.
@@nathanielbugg7355 Aphorism: "Until the day we’ve learned to start the conversation about our adversaries in a way different from what’s the norm today, we won’t be able to say there’s been even a jot of progress in this area."
De-monetised for saying things that ARE correct. Welcome to 2020 where tech companies and gullible humans want to tell you how to think.
Sargon is demonitised for his Opinions not necessarily the facts he presents, which in many ways is so much more reprehensible than banning someone that they see as presenting incorrect information.
@@williamhaines7876 Been a big fan of sargon for a long time, but he doesn't help himself sometimes. Yes calling white supremacists the N word and sending them interracial porn is funny as fuck but to the mainstream media/online platforms the second you do something controversial or breach TOS they'll drag you through the mud for the rest of your life. Same with Dankula, he'll always be depicted as the nazi pug yob by Scottish,media no matter how just his cause is
Control the flow of information control the world. Stalin could only dream of the power to control minds a company like Google and social media have. The scariest thing is they answer to no one and they believe they are right and willing to do and say anything to further their cause
@@DMKA94 if you go against the current msm orthodoxy they'll only make stuff up anyway.
British politics is a closed shop.
Frank Vuletin It’s frightening isn’t it, a lot of people still don’t know what’s happening around them right now either.
Aphorism: "Nothing is more common than combining self-interest with a sense of moral superiority."
How neatly our ideals and our interests coincide. Unfortunately, we don't necessarily grasp what our long term interests are.
The west is running alive with very rich and successful pseudo socialists. These individuals know of course that they can advocate for left wing policies with impunity in the knowledge that the policies they advocating for will never be adopted. This allows them to virtue signal to their heart's content with no consequences. Now where these same people to live in a country where socialism or god forbid communism looked like it could become a reality these very same people would be either very silent or more likely they would be on a plane to first capitalist country that would have them
@olskool shinobi Aphorism: "Generally speaking, ad hominem arguments say much more about the person using them than they do about the person being attacked by them."
“The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.” -Shaw. Checkmate.
Great interview. Refreshing.
I know plenty of people rag on Sargon, and even shun him, but he's always come across to me as a fair-minded and perceptive thinker.
Agreed. I may not agree with him on all things, but he is well read and insightful and I often find he has worth while opinions on things for me to consider.
Well he tries to look at both sides , but the Left do not want that , only their side should be heard and all else should be censored... Facebook may well be in trouble for lying about censorship as they are doing it as well as Twitter...
@@reverendnorse Thats the best way to listen to people I think. If you agree with everything someone says then chances are you are just parroting their opinions instead of using theirs to form your own.
I dont mean you as in You Reverend Norse more of the metaphorical You.
Do any of you know who the real Sargan Of Akkad actually was?
@@nasbat7688 I don't see how that is in any way relevant but he was an early mesopotamian Emperor and an interesting historical figure we know quite little about... Which is why Carl chose his name and avatar for his gamer handle which later became his youtube avatar... Your point???
Describing 2020 to a coma patient would be: "Go back to sleep."
Picture a dumpster full of cardboard on fire, floating down a flooded street with the street lights all blinking all three lights...
Skip!
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😅🤣😅🤣😅🤣👍👍
Brilliant
"Wouldn't it be geeat to have the colour of your skin treated like the colour of your hair"
Mate... I'm ginger. 😑🤣
Pssst! Bub,,, you wanna buy a soul? ;-)
Never understood the anti-ginger bias thing. (Not from UK.) It seems like it's an 'invented' bigotry (meant as a parody of actual bigotry), because it's so over-the-top, but it *also* seems (from an outsider's perspective, from hearing from actual gingers (we just call them red-heads; merely equivalent to blonde or brunette, just descriptive) about it) that it has been actually applied against gingers in an actually bigoted way (please correct me if I'm wrong!; again, I'm an outsider to this phenomenon).
Anyway, I highly suggest to anyone the Tim Minchin comedic song, _Prejudice._ (Title on TH-cam is "Prejudice by Tim Minchin".) Absolutely brilliant (musically and lyrically), and hilarious too. 😂
Here's a link to the Tim Minchin's song _Prejudice._ Hopefully gets past the filters:
th-cam.com/video/KVN_0qvuhhw/w-d-xo.html
Here's the TH-cam URL ID to the song, if my previous comment failed to get through:
watch?v=KVN_0qvuhhw
Enjoy! 😁
@@robharwood3538
It's a strange phenomenon. We tend to get horrifically bullied through school, into young adulthood. I'm in my 30s and still have people say things like "I wouldn't usually chat to a ginger, but you're alright." and I just think of those ridiculous anti-racism videos we were shown as children, only it's real life and I'm not black.
I don't really understand why this happens. I suppose it's like any bigotry really, just an obvious target to be called "the other".
We're the only vaguely defined ethnic group you're allowed to openly mock in the British military, and it's used to great effect in training.
I am a bit extra weird, because I'm part Asian but ginger.
At around 1 hr and 6-7 mins in, Carl said, “don’t be a hero,” and while I agree with that statement, there needs to be an addition: “don’t be a hero, but don’t be a coward.” Too many people just bow down. Carl sort of touch on it by saying to buy a t-shirt to show your support for a person, but it needs to be explicitly said to not be a coward.
He has said he meant to say martyr not hero.
@@seekingsomething9026 Bruh, he said that today. My comment stands from the context of 4 days ago. Plus, I think my phrase of "don't be a coward" is still a good addition to his "don't be a martyr" saying.
@@JLujan4492 yeah I only gave the update as I didn't know if you knew about it, is all.
Carl is a legend
Stop demonetizing him 😂
Ryan Rix unfortunately he’s guilty of wrong think so 🤷🏾
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Standing against Karl the God.
It's possible to walk back from that anti-enlightenment, anti-western worldview. I was involved in this kind of communist politics back in college 15 years ago.... I was early to this stuff, and it was before intersectionality completed it's march through leftism more broadly. I was a Marxist back then. Now I'm an enlightment liberal who loves science, the space program, classical music and liberty. For me, it was reading Bertrand Russell, Sam Harris, Stephen Pinker and Carl Sagan that started eroding my worldview and shaping me into a pro-west, pro-american kinda guy.
Same here, almost to the word
I hear you! I was a teenage SJW (sounds like a horror movie, lol) and when Trump was elected, I sperged out, *BUT* -- it was only for a couple days. Because I had to get back to my life and work; so I couldn't put everything on hold trying to deny the fact that Trump had somehow just become the President of my country (no matter how much I did not want this to be true).
I think the most hysterical people are the ones with way too much time and money on their hands. If they had anyone else who depended on them, if there was anyone who needed them to be functional, they wouldn't have the time/money/energy/resources, to sperg out for four years straight.🤷🏾♀️
So in a way, it can be good to be working class -- I have to deal with the realities of life, like caring for the ones who depend on me (in my case, this isn't children, but the animals whom I rescue and rehab) and so, in 2016, when Trump was elected and yet the world didn't end (somewhat to my surprise!) I accepted the fact and moved on.
Meanwhile, the people who have the massive PRIVILEGE to do nothing else but rail against Trump for the past four years, they've become increasingly vitriolic and hysteria-ridden.
@Lon Spector don't care
@Philip Carpenter haha.. basically. But a good chunk of the people who I was around at that time never grew out of it.
Read Vox Day he will Uber red pill you
The fact that you think it is reasonable to ban speech that makes people "uncomfortable" is the whole reason the leftists have succeeded so far. Sure it sounds reasonable on the surface but if you really stop and think about it you'll see that it's not. No one can have the right to not be offended without curtailing many others rights. In today's "Victimhood Olympics" no matter what you say regarding race, politics or societal norms you'll be offending some vocal group on the internet. The only way that we don't lose freedom of speech completely is to defend all speech, even if it is offensive to us personally. Argue against that which offends you or makes you uncomfortable but don't ban the speaker.
The Leftists ban and silence people because they know that any unmoderated site will eventually become "Right" (the leftist definition of which now includes centrists) leaning. Their arguments are emotional nonsense and when faced with facts, historical precedent, and statistics they collapse. So they exclude all contrarian voices until they achieve the supposed nirvana of the thought bubble. Everyone agrees on everything, because should you not agree and dare speak then you'll be excluded too.
We cannot protect people from offensive or uncomfortable speech, nor should we try to. Those using threats of bodily harm or posting pornography involving those below the age of consent should be pretty much the only exceptions to this.
We certainly don't have a couple of centuries left to go. We have done something to ourselves that Rome never did - unlimited mass immigration from foreign cultures who do not fit with western civilisation. We have seen tens of millions pour in from incompatible cultures in a mere two decades, not hundreds of years, but two decades. That is unsustainable and is causing social collapse on a scale we've never seen before in human history. We don't have a couple of centuries left, we'll be lucky if western civilisation survives the rest of this one. Even then, for that to happen would require immediate massive and radical change to how the west is governed, which simply won't happen. Humanity, I fear, has lost the most advanced civilisation our species has ever seen, and it was a self-inflicted death.
You might want to read up on Roman immigration.
But I don’t really think migrants pose an issue. The natural instinct to go to Western nations, is based purely on resources. An Asian can earn much more in the West, and live a better life.
As for being incompatible with the culture, I’d argue that I have compatibility issues with what the West has turned into. The people who are driving this change, are white. White people have a guilty conscience and do a lot of crap to fill that hole inside them.
I don’t think I really want the West to continue, if the current status quo is what we’re fighting to support. Infidelity, saying there’s 56 genders, dismantling the patriarchy and white privilege, mass divorce, being accused of rape so easily, etc.
The West became gangrenous 20 years ago. You either chop off the dead limb, to save the organism or you leave it to die.
Maybe the only way to save the West, is to allow it to be conquered, and then show people what they’ve done, so we can save it. Hungary was invaded by the Ottomans, and stayed invaded for centuries, but they reclaimed it. Hungarians will never allow people to clink glasses. It’s symbolism of never again. Maybe we need to lose, to win.
Rome also invited millions of barbarians to settle on Roman land.
Not by all of us🥴
The 2 ways cultures die are by conquest or suicide.......
It's scary that people just go along without realizing or questioning what they're doing
Aphorism: "Morality in political combat is a weapon resorted to and used without scruple."
Hey Chris, you're blasting out the great interviews! Keep it up mate, yer a machine
Thank you brother. Working hard to become the best in the UK right now! 🙏
@@ChrisWillx Just don't become "London Real," OK? ROFL
BoatswainsMate did he even donate?? 🤔
@@anthonydmorse Bloody hell, I don't know. Just making the same joke Chris made with Carl about his start-up website.
@@ChrisWillx Best at interviewing racist twats?
Regarding the "rules" of the radical left, it's necessary to understand what their rules actually are. Most reasonable people adopt the general rules of the Enlightenment, which include reason, logic, evidence, and intellectual honesty. These concepts are not considered valid by the radical left. Their standard is simple: Power, by any means necessary.
To them, identity groups and the power dynamics between identity groups are the only things that 'exist'. So, once you understand that power is their only 'rule', everything they say and do starts to make sense. They don't have double-standards as reasonable people understand 'standards'. Their only standard is how to best obtain power.
You’ve just perfectly summarised the post-modernist ideology. Link that with neo-Marxism and you have the death of the best civilisation humanity have ever been able to come up with. To think back to 2019 (was a pretty shitty year for me personally) as the apex we achieved, is sobering. Time to tap out of the matrix.
Yeah, power at any cost. It’s simple but keep on mind all the luxury/gratification/pride/purpose/importance of self that can come with that power. The lowliest shittiest criminal in the street rioting can put upon themselves the mantle of just crusader fighting back against oppressive evil and the highest politician can feel like a god of the new world bringing their ideas into reality along with mansions and nice dining and lovely luxuries. You know these people are drawn in by all the supposed benefits they can get at everyone else’s expense. It so obviously looks like the ultimate destruction of life and society for the gratification of the delusional sjw. To them is probably looks like their utopia of shining justice.
Pseudo. - You are correct . This ideology is extremely dangerous to everybody , especially western free thinking and acting societies and China's CCP has to be very happy . This is bad and sad ...
Well Marxism is a western invention so that must be taken into consideration.
When you take out reason and logic, all you have is power
Recent subscriber and just wanted to show support. I think the fears you express in the video are justified, but I also feel that those fears are exactly why you should keep doing what you're doing. This Woke movement wants everyone paralyzed by fear. So, in the famous words of Douglas Adams "Don't panic."
Thanks Patrick. Will endeavour to keep a hold of my bollocks as best I can!
This idea was very well said about the opposition:
"They are not trying to be fair, they are trying to win." 42:48
Imagine our great grandchildren looking back at how good their great grandparents had it before their grandparents burned it to the ground by communists in the name of social justice.
You ask for there to be a "line", what you don't cross so people don't fell uncomfortable. This is not about a logical line, or about repairing society. It is about power. The line is what ever "I" say it is, when ever "I" say it is a line. Conceivably, a movie could win B lives awards (what ever that is) and a Pulitzer for race relations and then (under tomorrows line) found to be problematic and need to be censored. That is how Marxism works. Stalin cancels Trotsky.
Good comment. The more you try to protect people from feeling uncomfortable the lower their threshold becomes until they're practically incapacitated by feelings of discomfort. On planet Earth, it's impossible to never feel discomfort; same with offense- when were we ever so preoccupied with 'offense'? Our previous method was to make more hardy people, not safer (according to whose definition?) environments. We should go back to making hardy, capable people.
@@berlingolingoful hardy, capable people compete with the rich that can't be allowed
Having been born in and witnessing the hell of post-red hell-hole, I am happy to confirm, that socialism/communism* is a form of obedience training in that sense:
- It is moral and good and just what the Party declares as such TODAY. Tomorrow it may change. And more importantly - you must be as devout at condoning today, as condemning tomorrow, though even that might not save you should someone who envies your higher toilet paper ration decide to denounce you for yesterday’s sins to the local authorities.
Fawlty Towers - 'Major' says the N word in a conversation with Fawlty near the beginning of the episode. It's funny because it displays his ignorance and age in the context of the conversation
@Timothy Somerville LMAO
@Timothy Somerville snowflake alert!! p.m.s.
Is it the N word? I thought it was another racist word he used. I maybe wrong.
@@SOLXXX41 he uses both the n word and a Indian slur, I think. Honestly only recognised it as a slur from the context of the conversation lol
I'm not sure but Ed Byrne might have caused a lot of the twitter crap on that, I remember him complaining because he was sat watching it with his kids (who aren't old enough to watch it)
"Everyone's terrified"! You're right Ben and although I can sympathize with people with kids whom can't afford to lose their jobs, I think we're all far too soft and avoiding the inevitable. It might be a risk to one's job or social status now, but risking that is a small price to pay rather than risking bullets later and we know that's the end goal, inevitable outcome if we don't turn this around. It's not like we're even sort of examples.
There's a reason that we were told as kids When Being Bullied "STICKS & STONES MAY BREAK MY BONES BUT NAMES WILL NEVER HURT ME", sheeze, what are we allowing here.
2020.....
Welcome to the twilight zone.
World has flipped.
Sargon is one of the most articulate and clearest thinkers on the Internet. Great discussion! Every sane person should listen.
Here's what I LOVE about YOU Chris!..........
I recently stopped watching a lot of different TH-camrs (haven't watched the MSM for ages!) but I keep coming back to your stuff because as well as having fantastic guests, you make everything lighter, more witty, amusing, free-flowing. I love your no-nonsense approach and you're genuinely curious and inquisitive.
You ask GREAT questions and you allow your guests to speak. It's a genuine pleasure to watch your channel!
Thank you!
Martin - thank you very much bro, that means a lot!
I was born in the fifties. That’s when grading “on the curve” became a “thing”.
So if all of us students collaborated to NOT study, we could bring down “the curve”
I worked for a woman who was a bit of a rebel
(and a genius)
in junior high and high school.
She ACTUALLY told me that she would purposefully answer questions wrong because......... to be smart was NOT cool.
How sad is that?
I watch Sargon daily, or, at least, whenever he uploads on Akkad Daily lol and i just found your channel!
Gotta give a lot more of your videos a watch, now! It was a very enjoyable discussion!
Thank you!
Aphorism: "In the vast majority of situations, superficiality in the moral sphere goes hand-in-hand with an assumed superiority."
The Germans episode of Fawlty in my opinion does several things, and while to a degree it is taking the mimicky out of stereotyping, not racism. I personally think it points out the issues with over conscientiousness, more than the predujice.
So the scene is Basil had taken a blow to the head earllier on and had snuck out of the hospital german clientele show up and for whatever reason he is concerned he or someone else may bring up the war, and he is concerned with causing offense or discomfort.
Of course because he's taken blow to the head and presumably has some form of concussion he let mention of the war slip, and the ensues the usual farce that is fawlty tower. The germans take the initial slip ok, but because basil is basil and he's taken a knock to the head and for comedic effect it escalates.
You could interpret it that only idiots and people who have taken a blow to the head act on there prejudices (nationalism, racism, etc).
Edit the colonel does say the word niggers.
The Major and Basil both say it. Who in their right mind would care?
Farrongoth •. Your observation that the essence of the humour is that Basil, in being fearful of giving offense could not help but cause more, is brilliant, and to this poor mind, liberating.
You have explained, in one comment, why, in ‘serious’ conversation I cannot help but indulge in the obtuse - and why I enjoy punk rock. In these times I believe it would be a public service, nay, a duty, to do more of the same.
But then, I may have been dropped on my head at birth.
Thank you. Continue to have a great life.
Host: *Outraged that SJW tv corporation pulled Fawlty Towers episode because of accusation of racism*
Also host: *We should ban things on tv that might make people uncomfortable*
Me: “WTF?”
Yep massive own goal.
Aphorism: "Just as piety and revolutionary zeal could be used in past ages to cover a multitude of sins, so political correctness can be used today."
I was listening to Sargon on auto-play and this came up.You seem like a decent fellow and I liked this conversation so I subbed and liked.Keep up the good work young man.
Thank you!
MW: How would you explain 2020 to someone that was in coma since Christmas?
Me: Imagine everything being on fire. EVERYTHING.
14:10 "they'll say things like, Capitalism will never end in Equality"
Promising actually equality = claiming one can walk on water.
In Cuba people are equal. Equally poor. Oh no wait, scratch that, I forgot the living standards of the Communist elite. Funny how the people whose job is to decide on the distribution of goods give more to themselves. Almost like....self-interest.
The greatest irony being that they don't even want equality, they advocate for equity, special privileges for some but not for others. Animal farm springs to mind!
@@DMKA94 I was gonna say something near to what you said... but then i realized equity creates and maintains equality (not real equality by any measure, ever) through power balancing. It's socialism repurposing medical priority of care imo. I live near a black community center, so at one point i told them that equity only works in a government aid or medical context in terms of a functional morality (i participated in a group meeting about how 'we' were going to defeat Donald Trump with Equity even though he lives in another country).
So i'm defending equity as a contextual tool of the government.
Equality... equality if fuckin' fairy dust and gumdrops. It's a goal like heaven is a goal. Mostly it's meant to undergird the idea that we're all equal under law.
America sort of has equality problems, as in, it's confused about equality. Ex. All men are created equal. Lol. And suddenly everyone is confused and angsty about how that isn't so.
Equity as redistribution _for the sake of it_ however, does go down the marxist road of redistributing property/ getting us all killed.
-Horus
"how would you explain 2020 to someone who has been in a coma since Christmas?"
I'd hit them over the head and save us both the horror.
Everyone feels afraid. So true. Jimmy Fallon looks like a hostage in the presence of DiAngelo. Speaks volumes. If Fallon feels fear, imagine how people fear speaking in work settings.
People are going crazy because they lack religion. Like Shapiro and Peterson say: We need both religion and reason (or as Shapiro put it: We need Athens and Jerusalem).
@Lao Zi Because that's the least important aspect of Religion when Peterson (now you mention it, Shapiro too) speak of it. It's the structure and set of values/principles that are useful for people.
@Lao Zi I can believe in a god, or multiple gods, without adhering to any religion... Equally, I could adhere to all the Jewish teachings and not believe in the Jewish God.
God and Religion can be separated, you can do one without the other. I believe Peterson is referring to the framework of Religion rather than any particular God - hence he says religion is important and doesn't say Hinduism, for example, is important.
@Lao Zi God is important to you, from what you've said, and is core to your religious beliefs - but that doesn't mean that the tenets don't have positive value without the divine. Or are you arguing that without belief then religion has no meaning? Which I'd disagree with and I think you'd disagree too.
@Maxus Devasteitor Why not? And why is it relevant, that he is a jew? Isn't it more relevant, that it is good advice?
30:40. Both Craig David and Daniel Beddingfield vanished during that early 2000 period, as passed their sell by date. Craig David's biggest success was 1999-2000. [source: Official UK Charts] Bo Selecta only started in 2002. Remember Bo Selecta took the piss out of Michael Jackson "Shamone!"; Mel B Spice Girls "I'm Mellllll Bbbbbeee!" Kelly/Ozzy/Sharon/Jack Osbourne "Hey Douchebags!" "Sharon!!!" If anything, it maybe made them more famous. Craig David was just too dull. (good looking, with no personality) "Modern Wisom" appears to be running the last branch of "The Craig David "secret crush" appreciation fanclub".
He may just be a massive Craig David fan... Someone has to be.
Dysgenic maybe, not remotely 'good looking'
Leigh Francis was the person in your group of mates who everyone hoped wouldn't turn up on a night out - super self centred, hyper critical with a decent set of acting chops to lampoon others. His trade was in undermining figures in popular culture and people with unsophisticated taste loved it - Saturday night telly watchers. Don't think I ever laughed - cringed yes. I don't know if he ruined careers but I share Chris disgust at the style of comedy - unforgiving, bleak, self righteous, shallow and depressingly popular - shares a lot with progressivism.
Fiona yeah we’re in a time where if you’re a well meaning person who is also against SJW culture, you’ll still unwittingly infected by the lefty racist virus in how loudly you find yourself signalling one way or another. The only way to be truely above it is to never talk about it.
@@hitsounds It was 20 years ago... when boys were boys. (Cute to see Chris going 'all blush' over Craig David. Hopefully he will invite Craig David over for an 'in depth' podcast)
Aphorism: "Morality is the age-old practise of identifying the values and interests of one’s group or society with the values and interests of humanity everywhere and for all time."
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This is going to be awesome. I loved the last video you did with Stefan Molyneux.
Thank you, enjoy
We have a paradox here: a communist revolution sustained by capitalists working with professors who constitute a priesthood of sorts, with the Universities as temples of a multitude off gods.
@@JRobbySh Elaborate on where the paradox lies in that statement please. ::)
Describing 2020 to a coma patient: you should've stayed where you were for a bit longer mate.
All kidding aside, I subscribed. You come from a neutral point of view and aren't afraid of just asking questions. This in a zeitgeist in which we somehow aren't allowed to question, we are either for or against no questions asked. I find this as frightening as you do. Therefore you have my support.
Thank you
Alex Jones is the most demonetized man on the internet
Tommy has to win due to them taking his freedom
The Fawlty Towers episode pulled was the unedited original version. The reason you do not remember it is because it has nearly always been edited out.
"I don't even make jokes anymore"... self censorship is what got us to this point.
It's a paradox that they think consciousness is supreme over biology. Because if I will to be a woman (I don't), then I want my biology to be of a woman. So what's more important to me ? My will or my biology? Certainly my biology if I want it changed so badly.
Biology is just a bundle of theories about life forms. As for consciousness, that is something that philosophic materialism, which is the mindset of the Enlightenment. wants to make subject to physics, which is a bundle of theories about Bodies in motion. It is still a mystery how consciousness fits into the history of either science.
@@JRobbySh That is all true... also true that willing yourself to be a man cannot give your body a y chromosome.
I think this "consciousness is supreme" is a lot about not taking responsible for anything in the biological/physical world. In this thought world anything is possible and nothing matters and we can all be free and follow our dreams and the state (whoever that would be jn such a world) should provide food and shelter
@@gzoechi I agree... very much. I take this a step farther: the base problem with this "thought world" is that it involves "the other". For example, one's own body. From the perspective of consciousnesses, it is possible to look at the body as a partner in the existential experience, meaning treating it respectfully and taking its needs into account. It is also possible to look at it as unnecessary, a burden, a block to freedom, etc... So the belief in this thought world amounts to a desire to live solipsistically. Not wanting to be tied down by the wants, needs, hopes, etc. of others, and wanting to be, quite literally, in control of everything. It comes down to a pure power trip, where there is no other (or that the other can be brushed aside without any consequences). Seeing this root is, I think, quite useful in unraveling the practical ramifications e.g. treating the body poorly being a major cause of disease; treating other people poorly being a major cause of loneliness and existential pain; and treating the entire experience poorly (by believing in the need to control it all) being the major cause of angst in general.
@@konberner170 I think this basically boils down to leaving Neverland behind and grow up or stay.
The later works fine as long as daddy pays the bills.
The system is completely broken in regard to guiding or forcing people to grow up.
Aphorism: "Our fine age has something new to offer to the palate, culturally speaking: moral hypersensitivity dished up with extreme crudity if not cruelty."
Saw this in the TimCast comment section. Thought you might like to see it:
never cared:
-I never cared if you were “gay”
until you started shoving it in my
face, and the faces of my children.
-I never cared what color you were, until you started blaming my race for your problems.
-I never cared about your political affiliation until you started to condemn me for mine.
-I never cared where you were born until you wanted to erase my history and blame my ancestors for your current problems.
-I never cared if you were well-off or poor, until you said you were discriminated against, when I was promoted because I worked harder.
-I never cared if your beliefs were different from mine, until you said my beliefs were wrong.
NOW I CARE!
My patience and tolerance are gone.
I’m not alone in feeling this way, there are millions of us who do......and we have had enough!
-Anonymous
1:17 RICHARD Spencer or Tommy Robinson might be the record holder. The media just refuses to let either hold an account.
Aphorism: "It’s seldom admitted that, while morality is undoubtedly caught up in history as specific foundational moments and avenues of progress and development, it’s also implicated in radically and suddenly changing circumstances. It’s not so predictable as is commonly assumed, in other words, and even contains a powerful X factor."
Aphorism: "If every generation could hear what certain representatives of the preceding ones said, they would know that they too thought they could cut through the Gordian knot of morality."
As much as I have problems with TH-cam (for reasons great and small), I do appreciate their logarithm that sent me the link to this conversation between two guys I've not heard, or heard OF, before, and I'm really enjoying what they've got to say. I'll make some effort to get to know them a bit more in the future.
I miss Sargon's jokes.
Agreed. The reel from Gibraltar, for exampel, was real good stuff
Sargon never told jokes.
Also, Oceania has ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia, and war is peace, and 2+2=5
@@mikebetts2046 The Party is pleased with your progress Mike
I miss Sargon’s koala bear gaze. Oh wait, it’s still there.
@@reverendnorse Oh god, so much beer...
“The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' - this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.” - Aldous Huxley
Diversity is against equality, else everyone is assumed to be the same without difference. Well inferred thought Sargon. Thank you.
You might be conflating financial diversity with a diversity of appearance.
That being said, financial equality is a pointless goal. But a dignified financial floor is very valuable.
Thank you Chris! This was good.
Thank you!
Wow, Covid works hard, but u work harder!
Another great interview 👌🏼
“The hardest working podcaster in the UK after Coronavirus” - I’ll take that title
I`ve heard that German people just loved that episode of "Fawlty Towers". Apparently, they also love "Allo, Allo", perhaps the next one for the chop by the BBC.
Yes, Germans love it. They recognise the genius of British humour. I‘m yet to meet a German who finds it offensive. Maybe the Chancellor, but that shouldn’t surprise anyone.
Good interview 👍
Thanks Ben!
Keep up the good work mate! And sargon on form as usual
"Finally Carl, how would you advise someone communicate now in a productive manner?"
Carl: "I wouldn't even ?$%# her"
"Performance Communication". I like that term! I'll have to remember that one.
Another excellent conversation. There is a lot of value in your content. I’ve even increased the sensitivity on my trackpad! 🤪🙏 Thank you.
Tony! Welcome to the halls of glory!!
Points that stood out (this of course is subjective). Better to watch from start to finish, though.
6:45
37:55
48:40
... because we're not dealing with rational, honest decent people.
I happened to run across this video. Chap speaking with Sargon is absolutely brilliant, ill definitely subscribe. Interested to litsen to more of your content, and I wish you all the success.
Thank you!
41:00 There is no 'line'. In this 'ideology' you're either on the offensive, or you're a potential victim. It is the early stages of what develops into 'secret police'. If a 'line' could be established, then there would be a point of contest where reason would ultimately dominate because of its relationship with material reality. As long as their emphasis is on undefined conceptual notions, attempts at confrontation are the equivalent of trying to pressurize the endless vacuum of space.
29:30 German here. The reason why you dont hear much about Germay in the context of social justice is that we as a society are much more obedient to and disconnected from our authorities (at least up until the migrant crisis in 2015). This is in part a result of post WWII demoralization and the founding of the modern Germany on the mythos of our original sin that was the Holocaust.
Critical elements of social jusice for example, like this gender stuff have been de facto national politics for 25 years now. It is called "Gender Mainstreaming" and has been OFFICIAL european politics for pretty much EXACTLY 2 decades now.
It gets silently implemented and since we germans, as a society are so... Disconnected and pathologically uncurious about the state of our elites, they were able to implement these things without our consent and even without anyone noticing really. To this day, you will find barely any german who knows what Gender Mainstreaming is, what it means and that it is official policy.
And everyone that notices and sounds the alarm is just branded a right wing conspiracy theorist and immediately discredited and shut down. Given our history, these words carry even more weight than in most other countries, GB and USA included.
And thus it was able to worm its way into our society much more silently and over a longer period of time. A slow cook if you will.
You anglos only really were confronted with it HEAD ON for the past 5 years, what was implemented through the backdoor in continental europe over 2 decades ago and protected from scrutiny through a combination of lethargy and "benign" authoritarianism in the form of media and politics gatekeeping what your opinion of it has to be.
And this is why it plays out much differently. We germans have been slowly cooked in it, while you were thrown into the boiling water. And this is also why I personally am so invested in how you anglos will deal with this ideology because you are MUCH more resiliant against it and werent worn down by it for as long as we have. And this ideology has hit you much quicker and more open and I sincerely hope that it will burn itself out at one point. At which point it can be addressed here in central europe as well.
But not before you guys demonstrated that it can be defeated and show it for the evil, nihilistic garbage that it is.
I would argue that what you are witnessing now in the anglo sphere has been birthed here in Germany/France and then haphazardly imported into the rest of the world.
Sorry for that, guys. Seems like Germany and France seem to be ground zero for bad ideas.
If you decide to nuke us from orbit, I wouldnt even be mad anymore.
3R45U5 - As an Anglo-Canadian man who studied in West Berlin in the early '80's, let me share with you my surface impressions.
First the "group think" vs. "individual thinking". Softy, lefty was the default setting among students, no dissent even murmured. Once, just to take the piss out of an echo chamber group and to see what would happen, I started to sing the praises of Ronald Reagan and Margret Thatcher. The reaction was incredulity that one lone person would go against the group, then a goodwill teaching me the error of my thinking - they "forgave" me as I was a "foreigner" - and, finally, when I went really over the top, a slow dawning of realisation that I was pulling their leg...
Second, in the Mensa almost every day there would be Communist propaganda leaflets on the tables and one day, a young Communist came to engage us in discussion to enlighten us. When he heard my accent, he asked where I was from. When I said Canada, he started to berate me for locking up all the Indians on reservations. I pointed out that I hadn't done it personally and that the Indians were free to come and go as they pleased, live on the reservation or off the reservation, unlike his comrades locked up behind the wall. Everyone was silent as he left in a huff...
Third, one day an ethnic Turkish student was shouting at a group of ethnic German students that they were "racist". Agian, silence, no push back. Probably afraid of being accused of being "racist" if they said anything or tried to defend themselves. To see if I could get a rise out him, I asked him about the Kurds, to which he replied that they were "insects". Again, silence, no push back. It was creepy.
Otherwise, I had a wonderful time. Good friends and a few sporty girlfriends. Swimming in the lakes, sailing on the lakes, skinny dipping, fencing, archery, nice professors, great classical concerts, cafes and beergardens, etc. A few trips to East Berlin - an uptight, paranoid horror show. Trips to the North Sea coast.
Postmodernism - Lyotard, Derrida, Foucault - was being taught - which I found abhorrent but the professors and students seem to lap it up as gospel truth; once something has "authority", that's it, accept it, don't question it. Embarrassment about being "wrong"'. I'm often "worng", overestimate, underestimate - experimentation - learn, improve, grow and move on. No big deal about being "wrong" as long as you don't get stuck. As long as you're spacious and flexible. And have a sense of humour. And realise no one is omniscient, infallible or invulnerable. Not everything is heavy. Not everything is stiff. Not everything is stuck.
You get the same at Canadian universities - shades of grey, not black and white.
The sins of WWII hung over the atmosphere and I just wished everyone would lighten up, contextualise from multiple perspectives, analyse in more ways than one, learn the lessons that are to be learned and move towards a brighter and better future. It's a process, we move on, we improve. Nazi crimes have been rehashed ad infinitum but hardly a peep about Soviet crimes - 66 million killed between 1919 and 1959 according to Alexander Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipeligo. Or other historical crimes - the Islamic conquest of Christian North Africa in the 7th century, the Mongol decimation of Russia, Central Asia and China in the 13th century, the Bantu conquest of all of Pigmie and Kho-San Africa in the 19th century , etc,., etc., etc., Pol Pot's Cambodia, Hutu and Tutsi Rwanda, the brutal conquests of the Americas... It's a human problem, not just a German problem.
Cologne New Year's Eve seems to have been a shock and shaken up the simplistic, hard and fast categories in currency. The television news is very PC, leftist, coverup whatever doesn't align with the narrative. Only an honest discussion - an exchange of views, an open and noble dialogue - about preferences and predictions can move things ahead, not a pretending "wouldn't it be nice if... " and a "you are not allowed to bring that up or ask that question or discuss that... " "Let's just think up simplistic solutions to complex problems and be done with - there, aren't I virtuous?"
Cheers!
Man, this is so sad. I got whiffs that the German culture had swung 180° into guilt mode, notably from Harry Enfield's great sketch character "Jurgen the German" in the early '90s - who would go about his day using every mundane interaction to apologise to random strangers for "my country's actions during the War". I saw the truth in that sketch even then and have hoped ever since that it doesn't represent too many of the German people. We all need balance and stability, not an eternal oscillation between extremes - and we are NOT responsible for things that happened before we were born.
musicalfringe - Yeah, this was in the early '80's. I think people are starting to move towards a more reasonable, contextual positions. Especially after Cologne New Year's Eve: 1) foreigners can do no wrong and we are guilty vs. emancipated women's right to party outside without being molested by strangers. The contradictions of the left will collapse upon themselves and biological human nature - not political abstractions - will retake the field. Here's looking at you, Germany! Zum Wohl! Cheers!
@@virvisquevir3320 I hope you're right. I hung around with a bunch of Germans during the 14 World Cup and didn't sense any of this. We got on wonderfully.
musicalfringe - Great! Germans are usually pretty solid, goodwilled people. Fun to party with.
New sub here.
You've got a friendly face, and you talk sense.
Good enough for me. 😉👍🤣
Carl: You are mixing up the episodes of Fawlty Towers. The German episode was where a group of older Germans came to stay at the inn and Basil kept warning all his staff not to mention the war, but then he himself could not stop mentioning the war to the German guests.
Nope, he had it right. There was a scene with the Major saying the N word. That scene has been edited for broadcast for many years though.
Truly sad that two such intelligent well-intentioned men dance around a reality as bright as the noon sun. Universal humanism and rejection of tribalism will place one at a disadvantage in a fight, which they readily acknowledge this to be.
I heard Craig David has been constantly rewinding this.
He read it on a Monday, read it again on a Tuesday, etc etc etc
Imagine how very boring your lives would be without America.
First time viewer here. Cheers! In only a few minutes of the interview, you (the host; sry don't know your name yet) asked such good questions and *also* made several insightful comments and (importantly, as an interview host) *helpful prompts* to Sargon, that I've already clicked Like for this video.
You impressed me with your interviewing skills/talents very quickly. Kudos to you! Best wishes to you and your channel! (BTW: Might as well build up your 'channel' outside of TH-cam, diversify and decentralize your 'brand' sooner rather than later. If you provide the service of 'reasonable, insightful interview host' to people like Sargon and others, it's only a matter of time before they come after you, too. Just a suggestion. 🙂) Honestly, the only reason I'm not subscribing immediately is that I use this account for more recreational (and less political/controversial) content, and I don't want it to become too imbalanced with political/controversial content; I got burned out on too much politics, and I need me a more recreational balance in my life at this time. Otherwise, I would have insta-subscribed.
Again, best of luck with everything! You're the kind of reasonable voice I would usually actively support (at an earlier point in my life), so I honestly wish you great success. At the very least, I'll be watching many more of your videos (in a more-recreational way, though) in the future, liking them, and possibly commenting on them; hopefully that will provide at least a modicum of support. Already looking forward to your recent Molyneux interview (I don't really like him / his message much, but I *am* interested enough to see him interviewed by a reasonable host such as yourself; I'd rather get a balanced perspective on what happened to him than from someone of an either pro- or anti- stance), which I'll be watching next. 🤔😊
Cheers, man, and again, kudos! 😎👍
Your “esoteric” description of the left/identitarian viewpoint sounds like the classical Christian heresy called Gnosticism
26 black lives have been taken in these peaceful protests about the sanctity of black lives.
Wait... The impeachment was THIS YEAR???
Been a long year.
Good interview! I think you got the best out of Carl and that is not easy.
It truly is a sad world when the likes of Milo Yiannopoulos, Stefan Molyneux and yourself et al, opt to live your lives at the whim of the woke-Khmer-Rouge!
Hurry up n start a conservative platform - or even one that's simply dedicated to free expression - so we can take back the internet!
Such a great conversation!!!
Thank you!!!
I really thought COVID would give leftycommies a new sense of awareness that their are better things in life than arguing with strangers on Twitter but no sadly......
Some would argue that social media is a bad thing for accelerating and exacerbating the current situation, however this has been brewing for some time, but like a frog in the pan, the heat was rising so slowly that we never noticed it. Social media just turned the burner to upto the max, so now the frog can feel the heat rising. Without the acceleration of social media, we may never have noticed until it was to late
Aphorism: "It seems almost inevitable that, in certain areas of human development and interaction and over varying periods of time, public morality will swing from the most outrageous insensitivity to the most incredible hyper-sensitivity. Now if these historical flips had nothing to do with the fact that morality itself can be immoral, that it can be used as a weapon or that it can easily have a fashionable or expedient side to it, then the end result couldn’t be other than entirely satisfactory. The fact that it’s never this way seems to indicate that morality itself is every bit as complicated as human nature and that its cherished principles, whatever or wherever they may be, are the most useful, elegant, and seductive aspects of a grand over-simplification."
@@nathanielbugg7355 Aphorism: "There is both a collective intelligence and a collective stupidity that far surpass anything any individual is capable of."
@@nathanielbugg7355 Aphorism: "Yes, the binary way of thinking - the “yes or no” or “true or false” way of construing or constituting reality - is dominant in science. But will anyone claim that discussing current events or the politics of the day is scientific? Why then is there this collective will to treat public matters, even those of a controversial nature, as if their structure and movement were as accessible to the mind as chemical or physical events? What generates this rush to find solid ground that, in the flux of things, can only prove illusory? What if not the heat of the moment, the lack of concern for long-term findings, the “unscientific” approach to this flux, and the multitude of desires and interests that comprise it?"
@@nathanielbugg7355 Aphorism: "The fatal weakness of a civilization is that its hundreds, if not thousands of years of development can be undone beyond repair cataclysmically"
Had a thought when Carl brought up seeking moral perfection. Really just reminded me of the world that came about in Tron as a result of Clu creating the "perfect system"
Because it’s an election year, and this one really matters. The end.
Is it? Where?
The noose has been tightening. So true.
Too many sheeple running around, doing whatever they want without consequences.
It was indeed Ronald Reagan who said, “I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world.”
Yeah, old 'Ronnie 'Plan 9 From Outer-Space Raygun', trapped in 1955.
"Conventional" might be the word to replace "mainstream".
Keep up the great work. Stand firm and stiff upper lip!
I’ve always really liked Sargon, there’s just something about him that made me think that he’s a good dude. And the way he was targeted felt unwarranted to me and it just served to further damage my opinion of the “mainstream” media.
Very good interview !
I like the shortage of trust insight, and 'the web of trust' phrase.
omfg! Fawlty Towers with John Cleese mocking Hitler got banned?!?! -_-
I have this entire series on DVD transcribed to work on a USA DVD player. I own that episode and I'm going to go spam watching it over and over all day today.
Silly Walking all day long and God save the Queen!!!
Tomorrow will be The Young Ones with Ade Edmonson mocking Castro. Viva El Presidente!!!!!!
Bo selecta is just brilliant. Britney spears at a dog track with a pint.
"It seems like more and more you're treading on thin ice." That's because the ice has gotten thinner, not because Carl has gotten heavier.
The clip that got Fawlty Towers pulled was the scene with Major where he speaks about the West Indian Cricketers.
"Everything I warned you about in 2017 has been happening!" -Sargon
"First time, Bro?" -Eisenhower
"stfu, you five star sissyboy" -T. Rooseveldt
"Jesus, nobody reads me anymore?" -A. DeToqueville
"Vous êtes des poseurs" -M. Robespierre