Everybody is talking about how good that steadicam operator is, but I'm actually more impressed with the 1st AC that pulled that perfect focus the whole time while running behind making sure not to be in the shot!
@@OsirisFilm Well, even with a parfocal lens (most professional cine lenses are), you need a focus puller. Parfocal only means that the the focus distance doesn't change when the focal length (zoom) changes...
this isn't a movie set that might be in autofocus or pulled by the CCU operator in the control room. Or a said on this thread par focal lens and the smaller sensor helps too, imagine if they had used full frame cameras instead of TV cams.
Definitely awesome, if you've ever tried a Steadicam rig on you'd know how hard it is just to make it look not wobbly and seasick - let alone segway to the stage and run multiple 360's :-) As for the focus pulling, one thing that helped them is that TV cameras use 2/3" sensors, which provide greater depth of field compared to cinematography.
Love the way he just binned the Segway! Incredible to zoom in once on stage and then 360 in a tight centred MCU whilst at like 85mm or more! Tussen takk brawd!
Just to clear up the misunderstanding -- many people in the U.S. use the word "ridiculous" when they mean "extraordinary" or "amazing". They actually mean that it is amazing, not that it is worthy of ridicule.
That cameraman is seriously earning his paycheck. I've seen guild/union cameraman just lazily go between 3 different angles and stand there, acting like that's all they've ever had to do and all that they are ever going to do. Also, I wonder how well that girl (guy?) with the sheet blowing into their entire face and body can breathe during that...
+Musing Of A Man Right? Was that accidental? I get the impression they had planned to ride up the ramp and do a few laps, but kept it together on the fly when the seg ditched on the non-bermed ramp.
Milky Way Laniakea Superclusterite nah, I think it was planned. Can't imagine them planning to use the segway on the stage especially circling the lead singer in such small of an orbit. Probably why they went with the segway without the front too.
Chris, CCU never controls focus, because it's a spatial job; focus is about choosing a 2D plane out of a 3D environment (the real world). A CCU operator can't do that well because he's already looking at a 2D image. A focus puller usually stands aside from the camera to gauge the distance between it and the object.
Fantastic work! I wonder what the camera guy thinks of today's 3-axis DLSR gimbals. Of course even with the latest gear (MUCH lighter weight) it would take a lot of skill to get that shot.
smichelsen but gimbals can not remove vertical movement. you really need an steadicam arm for that. Also the counterweight is the cameras battery, so its not just "dead weight"
Galeere2 plus don't you have to lock certain axis for tilt shots like the transition from the singer to the guitarist? Having a pole you can just rotate makes that easy
They don't just simply stabilize by locking things, they counteract movement electronically by adjusting motors/servo's, and allow rotation or movement by pushing a joystick-like button. Some of the things the steadicammer is doing by tilting, panning or rotating the arm with the camera on it require motorized action with those stabilizers, and though the really expensive ones probably have quite a range of resolution between no motion and maximum motion, this would be hard to get right (and of course, practice makes everything better, but still, most video footage I see from stabilizers is distinct and nauseating due to how a camera is able to rotate with the help of a joystick-like button and the way the image moves.) That said, this is awesome, but the usage of steadicams has become overrated in something like the Eurovision Song Contest in my opinion.
Now THAT was impressive, thanks for uploading! I recently helped out on a shoot as a focus puller, during which the steadycam-operator let me try on his gear, XDCam included. Had NO idea that walking & handling the mounted camera was THAT difficult, phew! So, thumps up to all professional steadycam-operators! :-D
I tried on a budget-type of vest once at the IBC, it was interesting even though it was a short time. (And it was also interesting to see that I was/am WAAAY to skinny for such a vest lol :P)
Professional TV and Cinema cameras ususally don't have autofocus or it is not used. For what I can see from this video the second man is the focus puller which means he focuses the camera lens manually (looking at screen and turning the wireless follow focus knob). Idk whe he didn't do it remotely though, propably has to do something with reacting faster when seeing actual camera movements. in case you don't know: Focusing is basically setting the distance from the camera sensor at which subjects are sharp (in focus)
To make something clear, I operate a steadicam and I know that you have a LANC zoom control on your handle and your first CA (camera assistant) to pull focus for you, either wireless or with a very thin cable. In this case it was wireless but without a monitor, that is why he had to keep up with the operator's screen.
Well I'm impressed. And when the show went out live they got one chance to do it right, with all the embarrassment if it went wrong. The Tarantino sequence is impressive too, but they had all day to get it right and there is at least one possible cut in there.
el trascámara que se ve es en un ensayo. Por lo tanto no hay audiencia. Pero si te fijas bien, el hace la toma justo a la misma velocidad que en el concierto en vivo, gran trabajo!
The unfortunate truth about cinematographers; you never see the amount of work they put in. If the final shot isn't good, people assume that they aren't any good.
I had to wear a SteadiCam once with an Arri 3 on top. My God, that thing was HEAVY and it HURTS the hips and lower back! This operator is a true athlete!!!!
I've done a lot of steadi for broadcast in the past, mainly football matches, it was my Knees that hurt me, everything else was fine, you're obviously wearing it incorrectly..
I flew a C700 for a short film, we had a 7 minute long take that took 5 tries to do and I couldn't walk properly for the rest of the day - I can't even imagine shooting broadcast. Props to you, my dude.
Hmm, if it hurts your lower back I'd say the waist strap is not correctly adjusted, I tried a budget-kind of Steadicam (I think it was a Glidecam) one with some kind of XDCam camera and a pretty big set of accessoires once when I weighed 52 kilo's (at 170 cm's in height) and I felt it in my hips and lower back immediately as well (which, in my case had to do with the fact that the vest was WAAAY to big for me, because I was skinny back then, the straps had been adjusted to the absolute minimum and it still flopped around like crazy after the locks had been closed :P).
Eurovision 2012 (2013?) just tried the same shot again but with I think a sky-rigged camera or something during Birgit Õigemeel's song. Didn't hold a candle to this shot.
Great use of tools to get a well-done shot. I'm still mesmerized at the abilities of the focus assist, too, both keeping up and feeling his way through.
WRONG. It's 2/3" camera. That kind of camera are designed to have a narrow DOF and in every case you need to have focus (auto focus or focus pulling). Every pro HF remote allows both focus point & zoom.
Me or you we have no idea if the lense was almost totally close or not and how was the light. In the first part of the video, the operator is in the darkest area of the stage at 50 meters from the singer. Obviously, when you start to shoot something from 50 meters and then you got as close as 1 meter, no matter light conditions, your focus CAN'T stay exactly the same. All HF remote designed for 2/3 broadcast rigs have both zoom and focus control for a good reason.
A lot of people who didn't see this video at first who I know are camera operators were confused, it could not be a crane, because you would see the crane when it would rotate around someone, but rails was also out of the question, transitioning from a crane camera to someone with a steadicam would also be very much visible, so this was why they meant it like that ;).
@iphxxx Have you ever flown, or even worn a steadycam rig? I'm not trying to be a dick here and call you out, but i'm genuinely curious, because even putting it on is hard, let alone operating it. That was damn slick for that move. I don't know if there is anyone who could do it better.
i was just about to ask if that was the second ac aka focus puller running with him. that had to have been one hell of a shot to focus. thanks for answering my question before i asked
I don't see this shot ridiculous, I see it epic! And by the way, did you guys noticed that the first is the rehearsal, I mean, how many times the camera man practiced this crazy shot?
And maybe it has been practiced multiple times with a dummy load off-site just to get the whole "Get of a Segway" part right, since those can lead a life of their own when becoming driverless :p.
He was actually on zoom, so don't listen to that other guy. When he tunes the handle on the device, the camera zooms. Not /really/ that important because it was only zoom.
i know the guy running behind the stedicam operator is a focus puller and has a very important job, but he looks funny as hell when he has to run after the stedicam op.
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Everybody is talking about how good that steadicam operator is, but I'm actually more impressed with the 1st AC that pulled that perfect focus the whole time while running behind making sure not to be in the shot!
What if they used parfocal lens and no focus pulling was required? How about that for a plot twist? 😂
@@OsirisFilm Well, even with a parfocal lens (most professional cine lenses are), you need a focus puller. Parfocal only means that the the focus distance doesn't change when the focal length (zoom) changes...
this isn't a movie set that might be in autofocus or pulled by the CCU operator in the control room. Or a said on this thread par focal lens and the smaller sensor helps too, imagine if they had used full frame cameras instead of TV cams.
@@OsirisFilm Correto! O assistente puxou o Zoom quando abandonou o Segway e quando enquadra o Guitarrista.
@@DjCarlos17cuznThere’s clearly a guy running around pulling focus behind him
This beautiful segue off a segway took my breath, for a sec, away.
Lol genius comment
I remember so many years ago. This was the video that inspired me to be a filmmaker. This is so important. Kubrick would be proud.
10 years ago when I watched this, I simple thought "Oh, cool". Now that I'm learning about filmmaking I see how pro you have to be for doing this.
Bro jumping OFF a little segway, onto a ramp, into a full sprint, WITH the stablizer? That's actually nuts.
Wow that has a huge potential for failure
Yeah, he could've fell right on live TV... that would've cost Belarus a lot of points
I was your 300th like... 👍
@@Meaisk it was the second rehearsal
@@Meaisk They didn't get many points even when he didn't fall though..
That's what I'm most mesmerized by. The courage it took to attempt that wild, dangerous, and dizzying maneuver on live tv🤯🤯🤯
12 points for the steadicam guy!!
Matheus Pratta Yeah, he didn't screwed over in that part!
And let's not forget the focus puller! :D
The camera operator is really testing that focus puller out xD
did he have a monitor ?
O assistente puxou o Zoom quando abandonou o Segway e quando enquadra o Guitarrista.
some steadicam operators pull the focus by themselves, but this is inpossible to focus right and you need a focuspuller by this shot.
All this incredibly impressive work from the direction team just for the performance to not even crack into the grand finale. What a shame.
For real and the song is too good
So true. The vocals are awesome. I listen to it on Spotify.
Props to that cameraman for being able to dismount that hoverboard so smoothly like damn he didn't miss a beat :0
That guy is not a camera man, he's an athlete
Definitely awesome, if you've ever tried a Steadicam rig on you'd know how hard it is just to make it look not wobbly and seasick - let alone segway to the stage and run multiple 360's :-)
As for the focus pulling, one thing that helped them is that TV cameras use 2/3" sensors, which provide greater depth of field compared to cinematography.
did he have a monitor ? I could see one that the puller could look at for reference
Going from infinity to 2 feet still requires a massive focus shift, 2/3" sensor or not.
Love the way he just binned the Segway! Incredible to zoom in once on stage and then 360 in a tight centred MCU whilst at like 85mm or more! Tussen takk brawd!
Just to clear up the misunderstanding -- many people in the U.S. use the word "ridiculous" when they mean "extraordinary" or "amazing". They actually mean that it is amazing, not that it is worthy of ridicule.
That cameraman is seriously earning his paycheck. I've seen guild/union cameraman just lazily go between 3 different angles and stand there, acting like that's all they've ever had to do and all that they are ever going to do. Also, I wonder how well that girl (guy?) with the sheet blowing into their entire face and body can breathe during that...
oh shut up wtf are you talking about lmao
After 2022 this is the real reference of all camera persons
All this incredibly impressive work just for this song to not even crack into the grand finale. What a shame.
Oh my God! That cameraman is the best in the world.It´s wonderful!
Cameraman more talented than singer. 🎤
Eurovision. Low bar.
This is the kind of camerawork that gives paul greengrass and Michael bay nightmares
Also, that song was epic and severely underrated.
The cameraman is good, but the focus guy.. damn, he's a hero !
did he have a monitor ?
@@soilsminor4715 seems like he pulled focus while watching at the screen the stadicam operator uses
Nesse outro vídeo, mostra que ele é o Operador de ZOOM.
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some steadicam operators pull the focus by themselves, but this is inpossible to focus right and you need a focuspuller by this shot.
Jeez, both the steadycam op and focus puller did a bang up job there!!
Is ZOOM Operator:
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the other guy is the focus puller or what???
+Raul Becerril Yes he is a focus puller. He also did a great job. Awesome team work.
+FloydPink23 screw the focus pulling. The best thing he did that night was dodge the ditched segway.
+Musing Of A Man Right? Was that accidental? I get the impression they had planned to ride up the ramp and do a few laps, but kept it together on the fly when the seg ditched on the non-bermed ramp.
Milky Way Laniakea Superclusterite nah, I think it was planned. Can't imagine them planning to use the segway on the stage especially circling the lead singer in such small of an orbit. Probably why they went with the segway without the front too.
Musing Of A Man Sounds reasonable.
SONG : Petr Elfimov - Eyes That Never Lie
goosebumps.. and think of all the rehearsals they have done as well.. amazing!
Remarkable focus puller
That's awesome and cheesy... the cheesiness makes it even more awesome.
Chris, CCU never controls focus, because it's a spatial job; focus is about choosing a 2D plane out of a 3D environment (the real world). A CCU operator can't do that well because he's already looking at a 2D image.
A focus puller usually stands aside from the camera to gauge the distance between it and the object.
I've seen in 2021 that you only need one person now running about to handle the steadicam
Fantastic work! I wonder what the camera guy thinks of today's 3-axis DLSR gimbals. Of course even with the latest gear (MUCH lighter weight) it would take a lot of skill to get that shot.
smichelsen but gimbals can not remove vertical movement. you really need an steadicam arm for that. Also the counterweight is the cameras battery, so its not just "dead weight"
+smichelsen a REAL steadicam operator would look at that and say.... piece of shit!
Galeere2 plus don't you have to lock certain axis for tilt shots like the transition from the singer to the guitarist? Having a pole you can just rotate makes that easy
They don't just simply stabilize by locking things, they counteract movement electronically by adjusting motors/servo's, and allow rotation or movement by pushing a joystick-like button.
Some of the things the steadicammer is doing by tilting, panning or rotating the arm with the camera on it require motorized action with those stabilizers, and though the really expensive ones probably have quite a range of resolution between no motion and maximum motion, this would be hard to get right (and of course, practice makes everything better, but still, most video footage I see from stabilizers is distinct and nauseating due to how a camera is able to rotate with the help of a joystick-like button and the way the image moves.)
That said, this is awesome, but the usage of steadicams has become overrated in something like the Eurovision Song Contest in my opinion.
@@TV-FilmCameramanUK as a Steadicam operator I approve
Love the camera operators at the end looking after Karsten like "...damn. Owned"
Now THAT was impressive, thanks for uploading! I recently helped out on a shoot as a focus puller, during which the steadycam-operator let me try on his gear, XDCam included. Had NO idea that walking & handling the mounted camera was THAT difficult, phew! So, thumps up to all professional steadycam-operators! :-D
I tried on a budget-type of vest once at the IBC, it was interesting even though it was a short time. (And it was also interesting to see that I was/am WAAAY to skinny for such a vest lol :P)
Definition of high risk - low reward move 😂
And thats why its worth it.
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ROBOCOP CAMERA?
OMG
OMG....
OMG!!!!!
WHAT A D U M B
EPIC AMAZING STEADICAM CAMERAMAN
GG
Fantasticshot !!
The Sparkle Crew is made of sterner stuff 😂
This is fantastic
Holy fucking shit, this is amazing!
:D
It just is......... Amazing!
Could someone please explain me what the second man running beside the steadycam man job is ? Thanks a lot !
Professional TV and Cinema cameras ususally don't have autofocus or it is not used.
For what I can see from this video the second man is the focus puller which means he focuses the camera lens manually (looking at screen and turning the wireless follow focus knob). Idk whe he didn't do it remotely though, propably has to do something with reacting faster when seeing actual camera movements.
in case you don't know:
Focusing is basically setting the distance from the camera sensor at which subjects are sharp (in focus)
@@grzesiekkkkkeu Thank you very much, I understand better now!
@@grzesiekkkkkeu thank you 🙂 the steadycams in Kiev 2017 also had another person running with them
The 2009 Eurovision contest was held in Russia not in Ukraine
Karsten Jacobsen, you and your team ROCK!
Damn, thats so sick!! and he even need to frame the shot too... WOW!
Give that man a raise!
To make something clear, I operate a steadicam and I know that you have a LANC zoom control on your handle and your first CA (camera assistant) to pull focus for you, either wireless or with a very thin cable.
In this case it was wireless but without a monitor, that is why he had to keep up with the operator's screen.
That's incredible
The focus puller must have sipped a few red bull cans before this shot...
Well I'm impressed. And when the show went out live they got one chance to do it right, with all the embarrassment if it went wrong. The Tarantino sequence is impressive too, but they had all day to get it right and there is at least one possible cut in there.
That focus puller is pretty awesome too...
el trascámara que se ve es en un ensayo. Por lo tanto no hay audiencia. Pero si te fijas bien, el hace la toma justo a la misma velocidad que en el concierto en vivo, gran trabajo!
"ridiculous", in this case, is being used as a sort of interjection of wonder. It's not literally ridiculous, it's just ridiculously amazing.
Now THAT'S impressive...
This is ridiculous. So much work for a shot that not a single person watching that shit contest will appreciate.
Same opinion. :)
Welcome to the world of video..
Nobody cares about how much work it costs for you to make a shot... It's a sad truth...
The unfortunate truth about cinematographers; you never see the amount of work they put in. If the final shot isn't good, people assume that they aren't any good.
Jay Anderson shit contest? Sorry, but let me tell you it is the most watched non-sports event in the world!
Adrián Valiente yeah because we measure a quality of a show by the number of people watching it ...
I had to wear a SteadiCam once with an Arri 3 on top. My God, that thing was HEAVY and it HURTS the hips and lower back! This operator is a true athlete!!!!
30 mins with a glidecam and an XF305 damn near killed me. Didn't even have a monitor or big battery. I'm so weak.
I've done a lot of steadi for broadcast in the past, mainly football matches, it was my Knees that hurt me, everything else was fine, you're obviously wearing it incorrectly..
I flew a C700 for a short film, we had a 7 minute long take that took 5 tries to do and I couldn't walk properly for the rest of the day - I can't even imagine shooting broadcast. Props to you, my dude.
Hmm, if it hurts your lower back I'd say the waist strap is not correctly adjusted, I tried a budget-kind of Steadicam (I think it was a Glidecam) one with some kind of XDCam camera and a pretty big set of accessoires once when I weighed 52 kilo's (at 170 cm's in height) and I felt it in my hips and lower back immediately as well (which, in my case had to do with the fact that the vest was WAAAY to big for me, because I was skinny back then, the straps had been adjusted to the absolute minimum and it still flopped around like crazy after the locks had been closed :P).
Eurovision 2012 (2013?) just tried the same shot again but with I think a sky-rigged camera or something during Birgit Õigemeel's song. Didn't hold a candle to this shot.
0:40 when she gives you the "you up?" text
this is just awesome filming.
no its a focus puller....
Great use of tools to get a well-done shot. I'm still mesmerized at the abilities of the focus assist, too, both keeping up and feeling his way through.
did he have a monitor ? I could see one that the puller could look at for reference
O assistente puxou o ZOOM quando abandonou o Segway e quando enquadra o Guitarrist! Foco precisa de um Monitor Video-Assist.
@@soilsminor4715Correto! O assistente puxou o Zoom quando abandonou o Segway e quando enquadra o Guitarrista.
WRONG. It's 2/3" camera. That kind of camera are designed to have a narrow DOF and in every case you need to have focus (auto focus or focus pulling). Every pro HF remote allows both focus point & zoom.
Absolutely amazing!
Me or you we have no idea if the lense was almost totally close or not and how was the light. In the first part of the video, the operator is in the darkest area of the stage at 50 meters from the singer. Obviously, when you start to shoot something from 50 meters and then you got as close as 1 meter, no matter light conditions, your focus CAN'T stay exactly the same. All HF remote designed for 2/3 broadcast rigs have both zoom and focus control for a good reason.
I think they meant "ridiculous" as in so good you'd think it's almost impossible.
A lot of people who didn't see this video at first who I know are camera operators were confused, it could not be a crane, because you would see the crane when it would rotate around someone, but rails was also out of the question, transitioning from a crane camera to someone with a steadicam would also be very much visible, so this was why they meant it like that ;).
@iphxxx Have you ever flown, or even worn a steadycam rig? I'm not trying to be a dick here and call you out, but i'm genuinely curious, because even putting it on is hard, let alone operating it. That was damn slick for that move. I don't know if there is anyone who could do it better.
the ac should have pushed the zoom a second sooner when he was stepping off the segway... hind sight - this would be a superb setup indeed
Correto! O assistente puxou o Zoom quando abandonou o Segway e quando enquadra o Guitarrista.
Yeah, the AC or focus puller is the real hero here....
i was just about to ask if that was the second ac aka focus puller running with him. that had to have been one hell of a shot to focus. thanks for answering my question before i asked
I don't see this shot ridiculous, I see it epic! And by the way, did you guys noticed that the first is the rehearsal, I mean, how many times the camera man practiced this crazy shot?
Probably 8 or 9 times, there's a lot of rehearsals in Eurovision.
Actually that’s the performance first from the night and then the rehearsal
And maybe it has been practiced multiple times with a dummy load off-site just to get the whole "Get of a Segway" part right, since those can lead a life of their own when becoming driverless :p.
good tune
I want to know the name of that focus puller. That was impressive!
Great camera work though
that segway dismount was ridiculous
Fair play that was brill.
Impressive work!
en Europa les encanta la Steadycam y lo llevan al extremo ridículo xD
That was so cool! ::D
his shadow is in the shot like 3times.
The Contest was in Russia (Moscow) in 2009, not Ukraine.
roll up on the segway like what up i got a big cam
Amazing!
So... Awesome... I want too!!!
HOLY!!!! AMAZING!
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He was actually on zoom, so don't listen to that other guy.
When he tunes the handle on the device, the camera zooms. Not /really/ that important because it was only zoom.
Badass
i know the guy running behind the stedicam operator is a focus puller and has a very important job, but he looks funny as hell when he has to run after the stedicam op.
Amazing se me enchina la piel de verlo...
u guyssss wr greatttt.... fantabulouss shot.....
Petr Elfimov is the best Belarussian singer!
dang someone give him a raise
esse tem q ganhar um oscar..... :D
Eyes that never lie, from Petr Elfimov
The joys of wireless communications.
Give those cameramen a raise
Amazing
'the work is the prize,' says my pal george.
Funny thing is that Pal Gerg (Hungarian,American transl. George) was a famous animator. Coincidence of mentioning him? ;D
I’m more impressed with the focus puller
Nice one, very good 👍👍
he has over 35 yeaár experince. one of my teatchers know him :)
That was a great shot, but for the 'most ridiculous' steadicam shot watch the opening sequence of Boogie Nights.
I would have thought that a CCU op sitting in the OB truck what be controlling the Focus ect..... Can anyone share some light?