12 Most Incredible Discovered Artifacts Scientists Still Can't Explain
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When archaeologists or researchers discover an artifact from the distant past, they can usually give a reasonable explanation for what it might be. Ceramics, pottery, and carvings are easy to understand just by looking at them. Not everything comes with a ready-made explanation, though. All the items you're about to see in this video come from long ago and far away, but the secrets of their purposes are a mystery lost to time, and scientists cannot explain their existence!
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Why do scientists always say that something strange looking from long ago has a religious or astrological purpose? Imagine scientists thousands of years in the future finding a Rubik's Cube.
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they might feel that in order for an elaborate object to be created it must be have some spiritual significance. why else put so much effort into it
The problem is we just think we're better then previous civilization etc smarter but all our knowledge is built on what they learned and created.b
@@K3XTV Exactly.
@@MsStevo2000 why do we put effort in to pointless stuff today?
Less movie footage and more real footage of the actual item being discussed.
Shut it Granny
@@theinternettroll9930 haha
I don't think they care . This is all about renting movies
Mock-up of the solar system or galaxy
I agree with Costa del Sol.
Movie scenes make the items seem fictional
Guy making the inscriptions thousands of years ago: “check out these sick drawings I made bro”
😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Guy 2, "do they mean anything?"
Guy 1, "no, I just think they look cool."
would like it better if they didn't show hollywood movie clips and just stuck to the artifact.
agreed!
It’s a shame because otherwise it is fantastic presentation such interesting subject matter. Well-researched and well-written. Excellent narration. A nice sounding voice with great intonation.
This guy is the whole package.
Well said brother, couldn't agree more.
I could not agree more!! 2 seconds of the 'artifact' and 2 minutes of stupid crap!!!
And actually not much info about the artefacts at all..the disc 04:04 he uses as a thumbnail picture and what not..does he even tell us anything about it?
WHITCH MUSEUM IS IT STAGED? WHERE/WHEN was it found and named..hwo named it and WHAT is the official story for this thing? What is the material JUST TELL ME SOMETHING THAT MAKE IT WORTH ME CLICKING ON THIS FFS..dont use the picture if you don't know more than..some very random people believe it's more than 2000 years old!!
The double bladed ax is a symbol of Minoan culture seen as a recurring motif and would not be a mystery to any archaeologist digging on Crete.
Get rid of the distracting film blips and just show us the items.
Yes, longer shots on the items would be better than the movie clips. It would also save you editing time.
It's because everything he's uploading came from movies and documentaries
I know what you're saying, you & Randy Earles, but they (probably) made this vid to grab the attention of the not very scientific minded (or history minded) individual & keep them interested. (TBH) I think people either are or are not, you can't really entice them. But that's just me.
I know. They do it in all these list videos. I think the filmmakers think it breaks the monotony of a dry narrative but they need about 75% less.
Maybe there isn't much more footage of the items, so they have to fill it up with other movie clips.
Everytime I hear "they couldn't of made this" I'm just like.....we don't know what they could do, we just know what was left behind.
If we havent found something similair to the sakara disk, maybe it was made by an artist? People always ask why someone in the past created something and what purpose it had....imagine in 200000 years people find art from banksy or some sculpture in a town... Maybe there were crazy artist in the past who just wanted to create something unique.
You ever get the feeling that humans get to a point in time, destroy ourselves and start back over
History seems to reflect something of the sort.
🚲 I do. It's the theory of catastrophysm.
@@Space_Zippy 🚲 For your own good, you should lower your hopes for humanity.
There’s a good book about this, canticle for leibowitz
This is the eighth time. We build it up get about 10 billion population then boom boom boom nuke ourselves down to around 2.5 million around the planet. That's why our planet wobbles on it's axis. The third time we did dish wars and this time we're doing dish wars again petri dish.
Imagine being an Egyptian Toy maker 4000 years ago looking at a bird, whittling a bird shaped toy, and not realizing you're making future generations meltdown over aliens, time travel, and extra-dimensions.
Exactly. Imagine if some cataclysm occurred and human civilization had to start from scratch. Thousands of years go by until they get back on track and they start excavating a spot where an Amazon warehouse use to be. They'll discover Ninja Turtle action figures, porcelain plates with "Live, Laugh, Love" printed on them, and they'll think that we worshipped/made love to turtle-human hybrids
The Saqqara disc can't be anything but a trophy for Ancient Egypt Pharaoh's frisbee contest.
Well, obviously
Great video! The philosophers stone was never about turning metals into gold though, it’s purely allegorical. It’s how to raise the consciousness of man.
Those balls from space things have been found to be part of the fuel system of rockets (or satellites?) that then fell to earth.
Can't remember the full details but it is on another similar type you tube posting.
Correct. It’s a hydrazine tank for rockets that launch satellites.
I was gonna say how can we possibly not have more info on these
that schist disc was undoubtedly made when the stone was soft and warm. its clear that a lot of the ancient mysteries are due to an unknown technology; called by us today 'geo polymers'. it sets and becomes stone. that particular object has a hollow axle. so i think it was for exterior /garden decoration. its a work of art.
Have you ever heard of a ceremonial sword? That axe could’ve been one as well, or just simply a good craftsman showing off his worth through his work.
Humans were peaceful until we were taught how to bronze cast and make weapons for slaughtering other people with. Unfortunate that we focus on tools of death over solutions and bridges towards healing and sustaining. Good thing the golden age is on the horizon. 2/3rds going back into the shredder to be reborn anew.
@Kristoffer Smedlund lol
@@missymoonwillow6545 Boy, do You live in a dream world. The first family had a murder with a rock, (Cain and Able) and it escalated after that, long before bronze weapons. Do a little research.
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@Kristoffer Smedlund No shit. That first sentence actually made me laugh.
The disc looks like something that could be turned that would change the direction of water or grain. Maybe irrigation or separate grain from chaff. Place for a shaft in the center.
The double head axe,was a well known symbol of King Minos (s)
Even today you can find jewelry with that symbol.So a symbol, not a weapon or a tool.
Thank you for that info! I wondered, during this video, how many people know stuff, but don’t bother posting.
Then again how could someone let something go by when they know the true explanation?!!!
Anyway.....Thanks!
Thank you for proper pronunciation of the odd words that so many TH-camrs have no idea what they're talking about or how to pronounce the words that they're using in their videos
The Saqqara Disk is theorized to be a water implosion device used in water engineering, which would make this a very technologically advanced artifact. Sorry to disappoint those who were hoping they'd be candlestick holders.
curious: water implosion device? please expand. sounds interesting.
Why should the 'Candlestick Theorists' be disappointed?
Candles do make better sense in light of current knowledge, yes; but why not consider other possibilities? I'm hip~!
"implosion" ... can you elaborate on what you mean by that, please?
"Logic and reason tell us that it can't be a galactic map." Feel free to explain the logic and reason at work that enable you to make such an assumption.
Our written history is a lie
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this makes me feel like the golden disc we sent out returning to earth 1,000,000 years from now. There would be no evidence of our civilization anymore after that amount of time. Who's to say it hasn't happened before?
I think about past civilization all the time. There are absolutely amazing temples and the craftsmanship is mind blowing. Some of the architecture is so amazing we cannot replicate what was done. Some of the temples are carved from a single rock. There have been many temples found buried in sand. It's absolutely amazing and there have been many extinction events on earth.
Bruh, imagine that the only out of World artefacts we encounter is actually just old human artifacts.. i like your theory
My theory is similar. Our future selves are visiting our past selves....be it a time loop or worm hole/time rip. Ancient drawings and carvings all around the world show images of big headed spacemen(astronauts in helmets?) and rocket shapes. What if we're visiting ourselves and teaching this new "species" how to make fire, irrigate, build structures, and so on? Are we then seen as Gods? Those same images also depict our solar system...unless you've seen space or had a telescope, how do you know about other planets; while living in those Ancient times?
@@armydude81 to answer your theories I must pose another: What came first, the chicken or the egg. Well the egg did, then the egg was fertilized by another species which lead to the birth of the first chicken.
Now what came first, the baby or the adult human? Because we all know an infant couldn't survive on its own. The story of Adam, Lilith and Eve. They started out as adults. They came from another planet "Eden" to settle on earth. Created in "god's own image" That would make it so the "chicken came before the egg". Which in itself proves we are a genetic experiment by "God".
Also no other species on earth has genetics that even come close to the human "vocal tract". The human vocal tract is something that is an absolute anomolly compared to ANY OTHER ANIMAL ECT.
@@kingsblade7143 you did not answer any of my theories...only posed the basic one of "what came first, the chicken or the egg?" I understand that theory and support your premise; however, I'm asking in terms of time. You mention, who's to say it hasn't happened before? That right there is the key to what triggered my response and we were thinking on the same level...perhaps this is on some type of quantum or astrophysics level which I have no expertise lol
We have only uncovered a small percentage of the artifacts on this planet. It's like a jigsaw puzzle with with most of the pieces missing.
Lol It’s probably just an axe that made that person go, “ ooh, that’s nice.”
legendary broly I was thinking if it was a head of its time and say, only made by one certain tribe in some corner of the globe, then perhaps those makers would decorate it in order to signify the maker.
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The shist disc is the agitator for an ancient washing machine. Stone machines you'll be proud of!
It looks like the engine of a small car.
Ur funny, not worth AF as a technician, maybe try the comedy club circuit...IDK
My attempt was poor also. The idea of machines made of stone, I like. Not much for critical timing, but I love comedy.
The Sabu Disc is a hand held tool for combining straight string, ropes, into braiding.
The Egyptians had wheels. They had chariots. I'm sure they had wheels in antiquity.
Not even American indians had wheel's. Talk about unprogressive.
@@ikuzoburandeon wheel's ? What, is that plural of wheel ?
This. I thought I was crazy when I heard him say the Egyptians didn't have wheels. The bronze age was capped by chariots dominating the battlefield.
I like the idea of intelligent ancient pranksters.
The disco Colgante looks like it comes from a shield.
A cover of a shield made of bronze, and it was simply decoration for it.
AS: Logic tells us it a CAN'T be a galactic map.
Also AS: Who would design an accurate galactic map and use for something else.
Smh
It is possible the reason some METAL artifacts are difficult to decipher is that we are discounting altogether the possibility that there was power (electricity or field generation or magnetic induction, etc) in play, therefore the symbols were sparser in number and variety and specific to the task the artifact was intended for. Rather like the difference between a book of poetry and ohm numbers on an electrical tool.
If that last item,the stone disc was SO fragile, How has survived all these centuries???????
It was found broken btw. Credit: google search
Definately not a candle holder either.
Some think it's for winding nautical rope together.
Its odd how these old's things get left.
Maybe these things seem amazing to us, but back then nothing to them.
Kind of like old toys back then mean so little to the people back then and thrown away.
But are prized today.
When things become rare, they become valuable.
Some of the thing I see on these kind of lists look like really old abstract art. Not everything needs to have a use.
The sphere is most likely a hydrazine propellant tank (model OST 31-0), used in satellites and rockets.
Why wouldn't it have disintegrated during reentry?
@@graywoulf One thing is the angle of reentry, there is ALOT of stuff/things that do not disintegrate upon reentry. You also have a rather large hollow object with low mass and therefore alot of drag, so the speed is greatly reduced in a short period of time. There is probably thousands of rocket engines that is at the bottom of the sea.
@@goltzhar Round with no sharp edges, did ya notice the protrusions were scorched.
That can't be right it surely must be an alien space ship. Sure its empty but that's because the alien evaporated like my tolerance for this crap.
Not most likely but is ! Is a sphere because it is pressurized with Helium at 3000 PSI during use propelling the fuel into the rocket motor , usually made from Titanium alloy. And no space agency claims agency for fear of claims of compensation .
That disk would create a unique frequency if spun.... i can see how it would.
The Cretian axe was probabaly used for stylish and magic decapitating.
The sacareh disk where ancient rims, to pimp the ancient horse carriages.🤣🤣
Kinda like a hubcap, I Like it. lol. Anyway I think it kinda looks like a fan or something.
Lmao, That is hilarious! Thanks for the laugh👍
@@danv2888 I was thinking it looks like a flywheel but it's too brittle and would not stand centrifugal force. 🤔
Say it with me again: Presently unexplainable doesn't mean supernatural.
If you don't know how something was made thousands of years ago then it must be alien... Just imagine in a thousand years when they dig up star wars toys, they'll of course assume aliens came to earth in our time...
First of all a lot of these "artifacts" are hoaxes. Others have a perfectly viable explanation to them. Yet others could have had many uses but since there are no texts specifically to mention them we can only make qualified guesses.
And then there's the tinfoil hat "argument" and it's always "it's aliens".
The hole in the spiral wheel is absolutely NOT where we are located. We are at the end of an outer spiral arm. Even Monty Python knew that.
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Green....no, Blue!
Q: Sakkara disc from Egypt?
A: When in spinning motion, the disc will change the atmosphere in Space. The disc torques temperature and pressure in a given amount of time. Cool the room to 32 degrees Farenheit. Great experience.
We don’t know it’s origin, purpose, use, or construction but we made a video.
That's the point of their video
The last one is for making vortex in water for structured water
A-l-i-e-n-s 👽!
And the monolith, that was just some rich guy's water feature in his pool.
It was a waterfall at one end of the pool!
Jeez! 😀
I have always been fascinated by the metal ball a Florida family found on their property in the early 1970's. Mighty strange and hard to find much info on it. I wonder where it is today?
It's called the Metz sphere
@@RandyTerrell7174 The Betz Sphere, no?
The last object, the disk was used to move water through something at a very high rate of speed
The metal ball was a fuel tank for a rocket, this was explained in 2011, yet somehow it's a mystery in your video from 3 weeks ago...
Makes sense
You cab SEE where it was sautered together in the middle.
Can
Last one looks like a scatterer, for seeds or water , have it on a pole with someone spining it under. While someone pours water or grain on it and it will scatter around.
They were used for hulling grain
Exactly what i was thinking. Ive seen similar spinner plates on deer feeders.
5:41 looks like the gold record of voyager. but etched in stone instead. Maybe we are trying tell our future self we use to be smart.
This made me feel so much more like I do now, than I did before !!
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Wat
My mom and dad was cousins, that's why I look so alike.
The Saqqara Disc appears to be a propeller for a water craft when the region was underwater 8-10,000 years ago
I was thinking a rope maker, you put in the fibers and someone turns it tight to make a rope.
6:20 looks like a hydrazine propellant tank of the 104 - 177 litre variety, model OST 31-0. Made by the German company AraineGroup for use in Globalstar, Theos, Pleiades, RocSat satellites. It’s similar to a helium tank from the Russian Salyut 7-Cosmos 1686 (Kosmos 1686) spacecraft assembly.
it does look like that, doesn’t if EEEEE, what makes you think it is NOT a Kosmos 1686?
I mean ... what else could it possibly be?
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Sakkara disk: more recently it has been theorised to have been a component in a system used to bring water upwards (it is also tilted with respect to the vertical axis and it doesn't look like a mistake). It is strange no more of those were found...
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I've watched this video three times, and I don't know why people impute strange, alien explanations for things when it seems a simple explanation will suffice. For example: it's not a plane but a simple Bird toy, carved by someone with a good eye!
The one item I keep coming back to is the Saqqara disc. I'm 77, have seen a great deal of technology in the past 60 years, and I keep thinking this has got something to do with water and pumps. It strikes me that perhaps it's a tool to measure cavitation.
Ancient people were truly sophisticated, more than we give them credit for. Simply because we can't recognise the means by which they achieved something leads to mistaking their ends as well!
Joseph E Fasciani We are just a curious people. This “ instinct” is how we survive. It causes us to wonder, then search for idea to better things for ourselves. People just cannot except the FACT, that there are things we will never know how it was built, why it was built or the purpose of it. Most, if not all we know about ancient things is speculation by, scientist, archeologists, researchers and such “think” they know the how, when and why. When it comes down to it, we REALLY, may NEVER know. Granted, it would be nice to know, but....
It makes me laugh when people thing we were stupid in earlier days...We were never stupid. We were always crafty and made ingenious tools....including the wheel. The only reason civilizations fell was because of iniquity. But we were never stupid...And we were never an ape.
Heeeeerrrreeeee we go......
When I was a little kid, there was a Sunday morning show called 'Omnibus', or something like that, where they brought an old relic or ancient tool and had a panel of 'experts' try to figure-out what and from where it was. Fairly sure I didn't imagine it.
True - first thing I thought of was Steering wheel. I have 4 vehicles and 2 of them have the Saqqara Sports Model, I felt it was the better choice over the Recaro Sports
I’m just saying we better find a Stargate.
We already have..stone hinge....now we gotta fugure out how to turn it on...
The last item, the wheel with the flipped fins, is useful to regulate moderate spin to slow the high efficiency rates that can be created through perfectly balanced wheel spins, attached to a generator that has an electric current or magnetic electron process. Ancestors of the past had better universal elemental knowledges than we do currently, and some of them indicate that they had the same levels of technology that we do now & better.
The axe one is entirely possible, the first known axe is actually over 70,000 years old found in Australia
The skull symbolise the feeling when you get out of the ritual chamber in the morning
well if you don't know what something is, let everyone speak...no matter how crazy it sounds
The "ball from space" is clearly a pressure vessel from a launch vehicle...
terrestrial?
Clearly?
@@elijahveilleux7415 Yes, one in front of the USAF Headquarters in LA launch vehicles break up on reentry and the pressurant tank is very robust and can reach ground fairly intact.
This will be my third response to the most excellent content of this video, the emerald tablet what a fascinating item made by alien technology we have no idea how to replicate and couldn't even come close today if you ever needed an object to say this is it then it truly is just that. Greetings from Wigan England.
The Saqqara Disc was used for Sonic Levitation or as a laithe for shaping columns.
sonic levitation, lol,nice made up hippy crap there.Please do show us your proof
One shouldn't be surprised at previous achievements... We have them too an someone somewhere at sometime will say the same about are achievements,or lack of them...remember we are arrogant about this stuff,an we should be thankful we found any of it☺️thank you ancestors 🕊🙏🏻👽
i believe its all happened before . its easy to lose the information. all it takes is one generation of youth ,to not keep up with tradition and teaching. i believe the lose of intellegents is coming soon. people used to memorize their friends phone numbers when it was a phone attached to the wall. now no one learns anything . ive seen the tik tok crock of shit the adalecents are watching they are regressing.
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@Daniel Southerland its in my years of time on earth that i seee . sand in the hour glass is but a day in our lives .......
yes,,, punn ,,,,intended . but if i can tell my kin of my day , an have them not understand , my plight , my struggle , ....we are fucking lost. mad max beyond the thunderdome with out the methane vehicles fucked. à ,, everyone wants thier chidren to prosper , but how can they in this world of , everyone get a participation trophy?
joe dirt" lifes a garden dig it. " ... i take it as grow and you shall prosper.
@John Barber say again ? sure is a pretty high horse your riding on . where your ansestors come from , to have not gone through the time in history called " THE DARK AGES.
Old Soviet technology
Never admitted it. Space race was a secret
Sputnik 1 mostly burned up on reentry on the 4th of January 1958.
It was found a week later by a boundary rider near the town of Winton in Queensland Australia.
The sphere was still intact and the Hammer and Sickle flag of Russia was clearly visible.
The four automobile like antennas had been burnt off by friction.
During reentry it often broke the sound barrier causing several loud bangs and it emitted eerie green pulsing flares of light as it flew overhead.
I was camping with my cousin near Collerenabri, NSW at the time, my Aunt panicked at the sound of the bangs and nearly died of fright.
Sputnik 1 was sent to Melbourne where the scientific fraternity examined it at length it before it was returned it to the Russians as a good will gesture.
@@MaxB6851 so this thing is USSR space stuff?
Yes looks like part of a rocket.
Which one are you referring to please?
Its likely a part from a cryogenic fuel system
The round sphere looks like a big dump ball that you install in a oilfield separator, they use in the oilfield industry.
You can see the lines indicate the Sun, and further lines indicating a human, the lines below it are a sure indication that the person who created it walked with a limp and had blue eyes, but although his daughter died at the age of 3 he went on to have 7 sons who had their own children. His 5th son was named Pedro, he would eventually go on to become the mayor of the local town and by the time of his death the town was named after him. It shows that on the bottom line...See...just there...
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May there always be mysteries.
That lump of iron is a meteorite space egg
Maybe a xenomorph laid it.
that metal ball that fell from that sky might be the very first attempt to think if metal would survive in space and it just so happens that it hasn't returned till now
@ 6:04 Really the Pioneer "aircraft"? lmao! The Pioneer "spacecraft" hello!
These videos have more padding than an upholstery shop.
Padded with more lint than at the bottom of a well worn jean's pocket. he-he
And are these videos that are full of other people's content monetized? Do the owners of the content they used get paid?
That I do not know.
@@nwapsnatas 100% no. Somebody should let Disney know that footage from Indiana Jones is being used to fluff up (and, sadly, distract from) the content in these videos.
More padding than my high school GFs first bra
The 'spheres' at 6:57, etc., are pressure tanks from earth based rocket engines.
The 'schist disc' is one of more than a dozen similarly designed 'bowls'. Mainstream archaeologists call them 'fruit bowls' or bowls used in serving meals and other dainties.
That still doesn't address the inability of the ancient Egyptians to carve them out of solid rock.
2:30 just a guess, but couldn't it be a meteor leftover from when Earth collided and created the moon?
Makes sense that a lot of terrestrial metal hunks went flying all over, crashed in the early earth years and got buried in plants that turned to coal.
Lots of artifacts I didn't know about!
Interesting, but, please, stick to pictures of the topic and loose the fluff.
At 4:37 he uses a pic of the star wars galaxy lmao
Lose.
The title, the hypothetical questions, the statements, and the rest of the content of this video is incredibly frustrating to me as an engineer. The way they frame the subject they're talking about might seem airtight and legitimate to the layman, but it's irking the shit out of me.
The artefact 14:34 kills this video. Thanks!
The inscription on the axe is a blessing.
NOT roughly where our sun sits in our milky way... We are WAY out on an outer arm, that hole was WAY too close to the center... not to mention, be live in a barred galaxy.
Per the mandela effect people, we've moved from an inner location to an outer band only recently.
The Disco Colgante looks to me like some sort of ancient toy,boomerang .🤔☺️
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3:24 I can hear Metatron going nuts over this. CEREMONIAL! IT MUST BE CEREMONIAL!
The disco disk is the template for the bladed throwing disk of the Predator.
Embellishing the truth big time!!!
the sakara disk' you said wheels haven't been invented in Egypt during that time? kek ever heard of 'Chariots'' ya do your research
@@A9Abs Ooooo burn lolll
Ain't no BODY looking @ that "disk" and going "hey look its my steering wheel! What's it doing in this museum!?!?"
I agree the tank is a propellant bottle. I recovered one for the USAF in the seventies. Not unusual at all.
Maybe its not a steering wheel but a fan? It was pretty hot in egypt
Very interesting... let's try it out.
Make a replica and do it to it
I'm thinking some ancient ritual in a temple. You can't find them because it was one of a kind.
7:50 this one was solved they are used fuel tanks from space launches .
HARP SEAL so its an empty fuel tank that an arabic prankster carved on
He didn’t shut down the flexible glass workshop, he had anyone executed who knew how to make it, he was afraid the value of gold and silver would drop if this flexible “glass” got around
Thanks for not actually *Counting These Down* that's the best part of this video.
“The lump of coal that it was found in is 20 million years old.” LOL yeah okay...
Please know what you're talking about before you diss it.
Carbon dating is lost in this guy as well as listening to what the person actually said about the coal and where they found it.
I'm wondering if there are any elements that could "trick" carbon dating....? Making the test say 1 billion years old when actually it could have only been a few thousand years.....or say 100 yrs when it was only 10 years. (Just examples to try and explain what I'm asking)
Good god man, I've seen men go to war with less padding.
(still fairly interesting though)
The Sacarra disk looks like a wheel that came off a Chariot.😉
I've found iron rocks similar to the second rock that was originally mistaken for a meteorite on the railroad tracks from quarried rock brought in to line the railroad tracks.