@@samlogan3098 you are young so you don't know this actually happened, earlier still, decades earlier, the national guard shot students to death on a college campus, THAT'S UNARMED YOUNG COLLEGE PEOPLE, SOME PROTESTING...at the time it was called a sit in or sit down... SHOT TO DEATH ON A PUBLIC COLLEGE CAMPUS BY THE NATIONAL GUARD. the national guard is the military you know that right?
@@samlogan3098 please research RUBY RIDGE and WACO TEXAS also BUNDY RANCH NEVADA. SERIOUSLY DANGEROUS! do you honestly believe we as CITIZENS will not ever again be forced into INTERNMENT CAMPS WWII style ever Ever EVER AGAIN?
There's nothing but heartbreak there, lives lost for nothing, only God knows who's going to be accountable. They should never be forgotten. Where is the freedom of it...
Makes me sick thinking how all these innocent people died at the hands of the government. They could’ve picked David up for questioning on many occasions without a single loss of life
@@xdude2x Lol how do you know that for sure. Also, they had a pretty given reason. They were trying to seige what was basically a damn military base. Word of advice: never shoot back at the government agents lol. If they were so innocent, they could've all came out peacefully like some of them did.
The property is open to visitors. If they don't want anyone coming in, they close the gates. Jerry was not trespassing. I would note that the first area he describes, that was filled with water, is the remains of the tornado shelter that was under construction at the time of the ATF raid. The well was nearby. FBI destroyed the well and plumbing, causing the shelter to flood, so it is not merely rainwater. The other area he correctly identifies as the swimming pool. These features are clearly visible in the aerial shots one can find on the web. They are all that remains of the structure, other than a concrete slab behind the new church, which was part of the floor of the "gymnasium" structure at the back.
@@ronaldjorgensen8738 You can on some days. There are folks who live there, and there are times when they close up the gates to get some privacy, understandably. Not aware that there is any regular schedule, but I've not been there in the past two years. I would say that, if you are in the area, it doesn't hurt to swing by. If the gates are open, you are probably okay to drive in, park and walk around respectfully. If you see any of the residents out, I'd suggest you politely make contact. It would not be unusual to see other visitors there. They are quite used to that, just be respectful and open minded. The folks who have been there the longest were not Koresh followers, but part of the pre-Koresh branch. Long story. Saturday remains their Sabbath, being Adventist based, so I would not suggest anyone visit that day. Whether the new church building is open, or the small visitor's center, will depend on the day I expect.
@@ronaldjorgensen8738 No, I do not live in the state. I have friends and business associates all over Texas and visit as regularly as I can. My first visit to Mt. Carmel Center was in 2000, on the 7th anniversary.
I just watch the Netflix series. Before watching it I didn't know this ever happened. February 28 1993 was my 4th birthday. I'm now 31, it's crazy to think about those babies that were killed.
The monument at 1:15 was erected by the North East Texas Colonial Militia", whose commander is Dan Powell......David Koresh's birth name was Vernon Howell.
David was in and out of the place all the time he could have been picked up at any time...but thats not what they wanted too do...they did what they wanted to do...
Exactly. He jogged with the agents that moved in across the road. They hung out with him and could have nabbed him any time and then dealt with the others peacefully. They didn’t want that
I'm supposed to be going to Texas in October and plan on visiting relatives that live near Waco , not sure if I will be able to stop by there but I would like to .
i visited 2 months ago,was actually easy to find,googled the adress,put in gps,thats it......walked around,talked to people....it just breathed the feeling of death......i had the same when i visited Lockerbie in Scotland and Omagh in Ireland.
@@celestekittie Lockerbie was the site of the 1989 Pan Am flight 103 that was bombed out of the sky into the town of Lockerbie and the Irish coast was where Air India flight 182 was bombed. Both airline accidents killed everyone on board plus 11 on the ground in Lockerbie. There are numerous documentaries on the Lockerbie bombing plus 1 on Air India flight 182
A government agency locked me up, for mentioning a statement about David Koresh! He was born as a Seventh Day Adventist out of wedlock! He was completely CRAZY?!!!
Because your communities have been flooded by refugees to water down the history and have no Stakes invested other than to solicit votes and maintain the illusion of democracy
America could never turn into Germany of the 1930’s, right? Pray🙏 just pray for our nation🙏 thank you Jerry for making and sharing this video, that we do not forget these things
Glad you made the visit. More of America, especially the youth- and especially now, need to learn from this. btw- you look like a dear friend of mine. Uncanny!
Thank you for sharing..its heinous what happened to those people.Rather you believed in what David was saying or not they were not hurting noone.just a complete catastrophe in what happened to those women and children..May they all be at peace now...
I was in Bible college when this went down. We believed what the media put out without even looking into it for ourselves. After finding out that most of those that went to jail were exonerated, I started looking into what really went down. The government fed media claimed that Kuresh was saying he was Jesus. He never said that. He said he was Christ, Messiah, and lamb of God. What is Christ? It means anointed one. What does Messiah mean? Also, anointed one. What does lamb of God mean? One that dies for God. Did he lie? Did he rape children? Did they sell illegal weapons? According to the court documents, none of those things happened. All evidence was falsified and Janet Renos DOJ was complicit with it. They claimed that the Davidians set fire to their own buildings and filled the rooms with CS gas. All lies. I read much of what Kuresh wrote, I watched many MSM interviews with him and everything they said he said was completely twisted to fit their narrative, the governments. So sad that we put any trust in what the media claims.
No justice in the USA, those people who did this, in front of everyone, escaped without punishment. They could have just arrested him in town when he went to the store if he was a criminal.
C.S. gas is illegal to use in war according to the Geneva convention but the U.S. government thinks it okay to throw into people's homes with women and children.
If he would have searched a little harder, he would have seen the foundation of the original compound to the left of the new church and the buried school bus that served as the transfer medium from the compound to the storm shelter that he clearly identified incorrectly. This guy clearly didn't have his facts in hand nor his history of the compound when he visited...
Jared Ahu he can believe what he wants, just because you and many others don’t believe in a past life doesn’t mean he has to. You don’t know what his callings are either, focus on yourself my guy.
I remember watching all of this on tv. I was shocked to watch it. That's why Timothy Mcvay did the Murry Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma on the Anniversary of Waco..... and he gave his life for it too.
If you want the truth about how the American Government murdered these people read a book called: A place called Waco by David Thibodeau. He was one of the few survivors. A very interesting book
Definitely an interesting place with a very compelling story behind it, by the way did they have a grave marked for the gentleman buried out front of where the compound stood? I can't recall the name of the gentleman or boy who they was aloud to bury during the siege.
@@jerrydixon Idk if there is one for the individual.....something tells me it was the boy that was scraping rust on top of the silo, anyhow I remember from a documentary that the Davidians found it highly disrespectful and disturbing that the feds drove a tank across it repeatedly the next day I just figured they would've had a grave marker for the individual.
Dang whole buncha people in the comments coming straight in with their American history degree from the University of Netflix that they just got this week. Thanks Michael Shannon!
@WeeStrom CO Guy The information presented in a tv show is never wholly accurate because it's a fictionalized account created for entertainment purposes. There's nothing wrong with that, but you need to research as many primary sources as you can if you hope to have a halfway valid opinion on a real event. An opinion based solely on watching a tv show is not worth very much. You should know that.
@WeeStrom CO Guy Yeah I can't comprehend what comment you're referring too
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Look what the FBI did to President Trump... those criminal FBI people including Cocky Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page etc...all criminals trying to even over through an elected President. The FBI corruption and criminal activity knows no limits and has never stopped... then Google FBI lab Scandal and see even more FBI corruption.
Tear gas can become combustible. It's happened in so many standoffs it's not even funny. The FBI were also using flash grenades and thats what started the fire. People were trapped and couldnt get out. 25 fucking children died.
@@jerrydixon The undercover left right before the ATF's original "showtime" raid. He tired to stop it, informing the ATF that the Davidans knew they were coming.
Waco was horrible to watch but Jonestown was the worst. I was young when Jonestown happen but it was devastating. I could only imagine what the first responders are going through today.
Jonestown did not expose a corrupt government though. It only exposed corrupt religion. Waco exposed the wrong in putting (religious or political) men or women in the place of God. Waco was the start of the fall of false religion and world-wide political corruption.
I just finished watching the series WACO on NF. So damn tragic. Those children that died, that's what I can't get past. The adults were done wrong, no doubt about it, wronged by a false messiah's own pride (I might even argue that putting their faith in religion at all was the real issue), wronged by their own country's over zealous law enforcement agencies, and wronged by the media. Ultimately though, they were personally responsible for their decision to stay there and die. But those children... The children were wronged by all of the above, and by their very own parents. It's truly too much to bear, and the seeds were planted for right wing extremist to grow. I don't think it is too far fetched an idea to say if it were not for Waco (and Ruby Ridge) being handled like it was buy law enforcement, the modern day right wing extremist movement would not even exist. Oh if we could only turn back time.
So, if a police officer, holds a gun to my head and gives the following instructions, "run away, right now, or else I am going to put a bullet in your head", and instead of running away, I grab a child, and place that child between me and the officer's gun, and the officer pulls the trigger killing both me and the child, are you saying that I bear no responsibility in this scenario?
lagaman11 imagine creating excuses and scenarios for government tyranny and murder of U.S. citizens. You are a prime example of a statist sheep with stockholm syndrome.
We had opportunity to go out there six months to a year after the tragedy. none of that was their .the pool and the foundation a burned up bus miscellaneous things lady living in a 10 x 10 shed
@@jerrydixon I believe that charge you $10 to tour the place. The old school bus they used as part of the tunnel system is in the pool but covered with water now.
Prayers to all those that died. The ATF and FBIs darkest days. Shame on them. They willfully and deliberately placed all the innocent victims at risk for a minor crime that could have been easily managed by the Sheriff.
not saying it's justified, could have been handled better of course. but the point remains, the activity at that compound does not really match with "minor offense"
@@goodnick321 1. Although gross as heck and I condemn it too, having a wife of 15 was legal in Texas with parental consent. 2. Modifying a semi-automatic firearm to full automatic requires an application, about the same as registering an automobile. Gross, but minor offenses. Then given that the ATF and FBI raids resulted in deaths of 25 children and 51 other people, including 2 pregnant women. In the grand scheme of the universe, the gross conduct of that idiot was trivial compared to what the ATF and FBI did.
@@Absaalookemensch regardless this entire camp is just doomed to fail? its just hard to see the other side when you hear first hand accounts of daily life there. i guess theyre all there willingly but at the end of the day its a ticking time bomb which ended in a gross outcome
Interesting and informative. Thank you. It's a horrible example of BRUTAL GOVERNMENT SAVAGERY!
Shut up I’m just trying to watch what’s left
@@samlogan3098 you are young so you don't know this actually happened, earlier still, decades earlier, the national guard shot students to death on a college campus, THAT'S UNARMED YOUNG COLLEGE PEOPLE, SOME PROTESTING...at the time it was called a sit in or sit down... SHOT TO DEATH ON A PUBLIC COLLEGE CAMPUS BY THE NATIONAL GUARD. the national guard is the military you know that right?
@@samlogan3098 please research RUBY RIDGE and WACO TEXAS also BUNDY RANCH NEVADA. SERIOUSLY DANGEROUS! do you honestly believe we as CITIZENS will not ever again be forced into INTERNMENT CAMPS WWII style ever Ever EVER AGAIN?
@@jerrydixon absolutely
Stfu, go back to your cult I'm the woods ya low life pos
Thank you for your time and effort in filming this.
There's nothing but heartbreak there, lives lost for nothing, only God knows who's going to be accountable. They should never be forgotten. Where is the freedom of it...
Makes me sick thinking how all these innocent people died at the hands of the government. They could’ve picked David up for questioning on many occasions without a single loss of life
He went to Walmart alot.
I think they tried that, but then they got shot at.
Preston User the ATF shot first, don’t be a sheep
@@xdude2x Lol how do you know that for sure. Also, they had a pretty given reason. They were trying to seige what was basically a damn military base. Word of advice: never shoot back at the government agents lol. If they were so innocent, they could've all came out peacefully like some of them did.
@@prestonuser4181 Go kiss the NWO s ass.
Posted - No Trespassing!
Jerry- - "The gate's open", and just trespasses all over the property.
The property is open to visitors. If they don't want anyone coming in, they close the gates. Jerry was not trespassing. I would note that the first area he describes, that was filled with water, is the remains of the tornado shelter that was under construction at the time of the ATF raid. The well was nearby. FBI destroyed the well and plumbing, causing the shelter to flood, so it is not merely rainwater. The other area he correctly identifies as the swimming pool. These features are clearly visible in the aerial shots one can find on the web. They are all that remains of the structure, other than a concrete slab behind the new church, which was part of the floor of the "gymnasium" structure at the back.
Can you go out to the church
@@ronaldjorgensen8738 You can on some days. There are folks who live there, and there are times when they close up the gates to get some privacy, understandably. Not aware that there is any regular schedule, but I've not been there in the past two years. I would say that, if you are in the area, it doesn't hurt to swing by. If the gates are open, you are probably okay to drive in, park and walk around respectfully. If you see any of the residents out, I'd suggest you politely make contact. It would not be unusual to see other visitors there. They are quite used to that, just be respectful and open minded. The folks who have been there the longest were not Koresh followers, but part of the pre-Koresh branch. Long story. Saturday remains their Sabbath, being Adventist based, so I would not suggest anyone visit that day. Whether the new church building is open, or the small visitor's center, will depend on the day I expect.
Rollin L Do you live out there or in the general area ? when I did get to visit it was like six months to a year after the tragedy
@@ronaldjorgensen8738 No, I do not live in the state. I have friends and business associates all over Texas and visit as regularly as I can. My first visit to Mt. Carmel Center was in 2000, on the 7th anniversary.
I just watch the Netflix series. Before watching it I didn't know this ever happened. February 28 1993 was my 4th birthday. I'm now 31, it's crazy to think about those babies that were killed.
So much fake reports in the movie. Producer even said so once the facts came out. He apologized to the survivers.
Yep, the Clintons did this to use as an excuse for their assault weapons ban.
We Won't Forget!Ever!🐍
The monument at 1:15 was erected by the North East Texas Colonial Militia", whose commander is Dan Powell......David Koresh's birth name was Vernon Howell.
I didn't know that. Thank you
David was in and out of the place all the time he could have been picked up at any time...but thats not what they wanted too do...they did what they wanted to do...
Yep... Jesus said something similar...
I understand David went running in the mornings, down the road. 😓
Exactly. He jogged with the agents that moved in across the road. They hung out with him and could have nabbed him any time and then dealt with the others peacefully. They didn’t want that
Yeah, they Gov wanted to kill children. David Korech and Jim Jones are child killers.
Im gonna buy the land and rebuild the entire place how it looked in 1992
Fist First do it
Better use fire and tank proof materials
I'm supposed to be going to Texas in October and plan on visiting relatives that live near Waco , not sure if I will be able to stop by there but I would like to .
Whose here after watching Waco on Netflix?
justin case god these statements are annoying.
Lisa Fuller thanks for the taking the time and going out of your way to respond 😂😂
Me
I remember this clearly... I watched it all live. Netflix is just doing information a disservice
@@brianarnold4819 I remember too when it was all breaking news. I was 7 years old when they showed this on the news almost all day.
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
Thanks a lot Jerry. This was very informative.
Thank you for that, I'm just now really learning what happened at Waco and it's such a heartbreaking abuse of power by the FBI/ATF.
i visited 2 months ago,was actually easy to find,googled the adress,put in gps,thats it......walked around,talked to people....it just breathed the feeling of death......i had the same when i visited Lockerbie in Scotland and Omagh in Ireland.
What happened at the other 2 places?
@@celestekittie Lockerbie was the site of the 1989 Pan Am flight 103 that was bombed out of the sky into the town of Lockerbie and the Irish coast was where Air India flight 182 was bombed. Both airline accidents killed everyone on board plus 11 on the ground in Lockerbie. There are numerous documentaries on the Lockerbie bombing plus 1 on Air India flight 182
@Sub Zero to each his own.....pal ;-)
@Sub Zero well.you are watching this clip also.....;-).......this is not about unicorns p00ping rainbows lol.
If you ever start doubting what truly happened at Waco, just study Ruby Ridge and you'll know who the real savages are.
Brings back a lot of memories of this event. Thank you for showing
How does it make you feel that your now criminal government executed women and children for their religious beliefs?
A government agency locked me up, for mentioning a statement about David Koresh! He was born as a Seventh Day Adventist out of wedlock! He was completely CRAZY?!!!
why this tragedy didn't spark the long overdue 2nd Amerikan Revolution baffles me to no end
Because your communities have been flooded by refugees to water down the history and have no Stakes invested other than to solicit votes and maintain the illusion of democracy
@@GH0ST369 we're not a democracy
@@tooge47 understood to be clear you are a republic that in turn uses democratic electoral that has been circumvented
high crime in the Lone Star State, shame ATF and FBI, SHAME
America could never turn into Germany of the 1930’s, right? Pray🙏 just pray for our nation🙏 thank you Jerry for making and sharing this video, that we do not forget these things
Glad you made the visit. More of America, especially the youth- and especially now, need to learn from this.
btw- you look like a dear friend of mine. Uncanny!
Thank you Jerry great video
THANK YOU FOR SHARING..... I do not want to vist, but was great to see your video...
Great video. Love all the ones you do.
No, has the names of the people who "were killed" there!!
The address is 1781 EE ranch rd waco tx...not to hard to find with google and a GPS
Are you sheriff harewell from the series? LOL
Looks like him
Prayers for the Victims & Family's
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RIP🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹1111.
The doors that proved the bullets came from outside to the inside mysteriously was lost in the fire, The STEEL doors were lost in the fire 🤔
Scary what our government is capable of
Must of been jet fuel.
Tank fuel melts steel doors....
Not both doors, just the forensicly important one. They used the one for trial, the other (like the man said) "...must have burned up."
Thank You for not judging either side. Blessings😎
Well one side is a bunch of nazi kid killing brown shirts and one side is Americans practicing freedom of religion.
Home, not a compound
Who owns the property ? Looks like the property is still maintained and cars there
Burnt bodies, women and children,pets and men😎
Thank you for sharing..its heinous what happened to those people.Rather you believed in what David was saying or not they were not hurting noone.just a complete catastrophe in what happened to those women and children..May they all be at peace now...
I was in Bible college when this went down. We believed what the media put out without even looking into it for ourselves. After finding out that most of those that went to jail were exonerated, I started looking into what really went down. The government fed media claimed that Kuresh was saying he was Jesus. He never said that. He said he was Christ, Messiah, and lamb of God. What is Christ? It means anointed one. What does Messiah mean? Also, anointed one. What does lamb of God mean? One that dies for God. Did he lie? Did he rape children? Did they sell illegal weapons? According to the court documents, none of those things happened. All evidence was falsified and Janet Renos DOJ was complicit with it. They claimed that the Davidians set fire to their own buildings and filled the rooms with CS gas. All lies. I read much of what Kuresh wrote, I watched many MSM interviews with him and everything they said he said was completely twisted to fit their narrative, the governments. So sad that we put any trust in what the media claims.
The only thing that's "left" is the audio because I can't hear shit on my right ear.
No justice in the USA, those people who did this, in front of everyone, escaped without punishment. They could have just arrested him in town when he went to the store if he was a criminal.
RIP to all the lives that were lost that day bc of our corrupt government
Dylan Roberts does this include those working on behalf of the government, or they don’t count?
Murder. Terrible
You actually walked on part of the foundation of the old buildings.....the flat.concrete to the side of the new chapel building
It’s so sad our own government could cause such an atrocious act......
Well Im here at the front gate , it has signs that say No Tresspassing , Private Property but the gate is open so that means I can go in SMH ....
So what happened to the concrete safe room that was left
It wasn't just the FBI, it was also the HRT (Hostage Rescue Team).
HRT is a unit within the FBI
@@mikehawk8333 right, it was the ATF and FBI.
C.S. gas is illegal to use in war according to the Geneva convention but the U.S. government thinks it okay to throw into people's homes with women and children.
If he would have searched a little harder, he would have seen the foundation of the original compound to the left of the new church and the buried school bus that served as the transfer medium from the compound to the storm shelter that he clearly identified incorrectly. This guy clearly didn't have his facts in hand nor his history of the compound when he visited...
At 4:48 he walks past the foundation of the "Vault", with seamingly no clue about its significance.
Also, he misses the fact that the current chapel is built almost exactly on the footprint of the original chapel.
I am going there soon, I feel a calling to that place. Like a distant memory from a past life.
緩和Benjamin平和 there’s no such thing as a past life my guy. And that calling is js to be nosey
Whatever it may be, it’s there.
Jared Ahu he can believe what he wants, just because you and many others don’t believe in a past life doesn’t mean he has to. You don’t know what his callings are either, focus on yourself my guy.
I would be nice if people doing these vids actually paused at the monuments and read them.
@@jerrydixoni meant pay the respect that warranted the tresspass.
I remember watching all of this on tv. I was shocked to watch it. That's why Timothy Mcvay did the Murry Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma on the Anniversary of Waco..... and he gave his life for it too.
Good work!
Good video but good God man the mouthbreathing...you're killing us smalls...killing us...
Jesus I was hoping I wasn't the only one!! And the mouth smacking right into the mic. Damn invest in a windscreen or something!
Should say" the people that were slaughtered here"
Why does the ATF even exist when Alcohol, tobacco and firearms are legal 🤔
God bless those innocent people.
Thanks for sharing
If the gov wasnt so guilty there wouldnt be anything there
The government is as guilty as sin and in particular those 2 reptiles The Clintons and Reno.
@@acousticmotorbike2118 Truth!
If you want the truth about how the American Government murdered these people read a book called: A place called Waco by David Thibodeau. He was one of the few survivors. A very interesting book
Definitely an interesting place with a very compelling story behind it, by the way did they have a grave marked for the gentleman buried out front of where the compound stood? I can't recall the name of the gentleman or boy who they was aloud to bury during the siege.
@@jerrydixon Idk if there is one for the individual.....something tells me it was the boy that was scraping rust on top of the silo, anyhow I remember from a documentary that the Davidians found it highly disrespectful and disturbing that the feds drove a tank across it repeatedly the next day I just figured they would've had a grave marker for the individual.
Great video!!
thank you
The new church is built on the original cement slabs from the old one
I wanna visit.
Dang whole buncha people in the comments coming straight in with their American history degree from the University of Netflix that they just got this week. Thanks Michael Shannon!
@WeeStrom CO Guy The information presented in a tv show is never wholly accurate because it's a fictionalized account created for entertainment purposes. There's nothing wrong with that, but you need to research as many primary sources as you can if you hope to have a halfway valid opinion on a real event. An opinion based solely on watching a tv show is not worth very much. You should know that.
I love this comment!! And I actually have a degree in history.
@WeeStrom CO Guy What?
@WeeStrom CO Guy What comment?
@WeeStrom CO Guy Yeah I can't comprehend what comment you're referring too
Look what the FBI did to President Trump... those criminal FBI people including Cocky Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page etc...all criminals trying to even over through an elected President. The FBI corruption and criminal activity knows no limits and has never stopped... then Google FBI lab Scandal and see even more FBI corruption.
Kook
@ Not a troll. Just not afraid to call a kook a kook.
@ Not very original. But that's normal for low-intelligence kooks.
Kinda weird that David's name is on the memorial i know he died but still...
He was murdered, same as everyone else.
Tear gas can become combustible. It's happened in so many standoffs it's not even funny. The FBI were also using flash grenades and thats what started the fire. People were trapped and couldnt get out. 25 fucking children died.
Zachary Davis true
Prime example of government overreach
You can't use cs gas in war, but they used it on kids
Can you imagine doing EVP sessions on the property
Neat place
Is the house across the street still there?
@@jerrydixon if you see ths documentry the ATF had some men move into it before raid. Claiming to be students? Guess they destroyed it also.
@@jerrydixon The undercover left right before the ATF's original "showtime" raid. He tired to stop it, informing the ATF that the Davidans knew they were coming.
@@jimrockford4968 wrong they said they were ranchers someone didn't watch the documentary
It's still there, abandoned, and in poor shape.
@@clabgmc5991 wonder if they atf left anything behind
Very Nice!
You didn't show the school bus or the vault!
@@jerrydixon Thats ok, other wise you did a good job!
Wonder who owns it now?
Last I knew it was owned by Charles Pace, pastor of "The Branch, The Lord Our Righteousness" church on the property.
Nate M. Thanks my friend
Do davidians still exists till today?
Is it concrete or iron
Waco was horrible to watch but Jonestown was the worst. I was young when Jonestown happen but it was devastating. I could only imagine what the first responders are going through today.
Jonestown did not expose a corrupt government though. It only exposed corrupt religion. Waco exposed the wrong in putting (religious or political) men or women in the place of God. Waco was the start of the fall of false religion and world-wide political corruption.
People forget but after this happened Alex Jones helped them attempt to rebuild after the massacre.
No step on snek
Names of the people murdered by Janet Reno.
There’s no sound seems fishy big tech trying to censor ?
@@jerrydixon wasn’t for me had to turn on captions
We all new the truth what happend don't we
I just finished watching the series WACO on NF. So damn tragic. Those children that died, that's what I can't get past. The adults were done wrong, no doubt about it, wronged by a false messiah's own pride (I might even argue that putting their faith in religion at all was the real issue), wronged by their own country's over zealous law enforcement agencies, and wronged by the media. Ultimately though, they were personally responsible for their decision to stay there and die. But those children... The children were wronged by all of the above, and by their very own parents. It's truly too much to bear, and the seeds were planted for right wing extremist to grow. I don't think it is too far fetched an idea to say if it were not for Waco (and Ruby Ridge) being handled like it was buy law enforcement, the modern day right wing extremist movement would not even exist. Oh if we could only turn back time.
lagaman11 Government killed em
I get that, but they had the opportunity to give up and come out peacefully. No one forced the to stay in the compound.
lagaman11 Doesn’t take away from Government murder.
So, if a police officer, holds a gun to my head and gives the following instructions, "run away, right now, or else I am going to put a bullet in your head", and instead of running away, I grab a child, and place that child between me and the officer's gun, and the officer pulls the trigger killing both me and the child, are you saying that I bear no responsibility in this scenario?
lagaman11 imagine creating excuses and scenarios for government tyranny and murder of U.S. citizens. You are a prime example of a statist sheep with stockholm syndrome.
Didnt show the goldfish
Love it.
Not a compound dude it was our house in church
Sorry about that. I feel bad what happened.
who owns the property now?
The 77 acres are still owned by the church.
We had opportunity to go out there six months to a year after the tragedy. none of that was their .the pool and the foundation a burned up bus miscellaneous things lady living in a 10 x 10 shed
Do not join a cult. Your cult leaders will get you killed. Jim Jones is another example.
type this into bing.
wlp criminals with badges 1993
oregon?
@@jerrydixon i know that but his exactly place is supposed to be a map in game called oregon
Only here for “Oregon” from rainbow six
Does this mean Ant May is not coming to Dinner? Where's oops
Vernon Howell allowed his grandmother to struggle without money or dentures.
Some people must be living there
How is that place still open?
@@jerrydixon I believe that charge you $10 to tour the place. The old school bus they used as part of the tunnel system is in the pool but covered with water now.
Freedom of religion, still available for a limited time only
They were not doing wrong when the std raided them raided them all those and they are not now so why can't they have a church
Yo
Were they giving props to DK at the beginning? “Standing proudly?” Not too sure I agree with that if that was what it was.
Haha I thought I saw that too
Prayers to all those that died.
The ATF and FBIs darkest days. Shame on them.
They willfully and deliberately placed all the innocent victims at risk for a minor crime that could have been easily managed by the Sheriff.
ahh yes because building an illegal weapons arsenal and raping children is a "minor crime" you're fucking delusional
@@goodnick321 And murdering those and 24 other children is justified.
You're fucking delusional.
not saying it's justified, could have been handled better of course. but the point remains, the activity at that compound does not really match with "minor offense"
@@goodnick321 1. Although gross as heck and I condemn it too, having a wife of 15 was legal in Texas with parental consent.
2. Modifying a semi-automatic firearm to full automatic requires an application, about the same as registering an automobile.
Gross, but minor offenses.
Then given that the ATF and FBI raids resulted in deaths of 25 children and 51 other people, including 2 pregnant women.
In the grand scheme of the universe, the gross conduct of that idiot was trivial compared to what the ATF and FBI did.
@@Absaalookemensch regardless this entire camp is just doomed to fail?
its just hard to see the other side when you hear first hand accounts of daily life there.
i guess theyre all there willingly but at the end of the day its a ticking time bomb which ended in a gross outcome