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Those are Ford Escorts Mark 2 - they came to market in the late 70's, the older Mark 1 is also popular (Mark = Generation)
I thought they were Escorts.
I owned a mark 1 and a mark 2 back in the day, great cars.
@@Stevesixty7in the 90s I had a Mk1 Mexico,loved the looks,unfortunately it loved to rust and I didn't have the money to fix her,shame 😢
Majority of the clips shown was on Epynt military ranges in mid Wales with surrounding forests of Crychan and Halfway also shown
Yes. Mark 2 Ford Escorts. There are also a couple of Mark 1's in the video - the one where the driver waved at the track marshal he almost hit and one with door/competitor number 111. Very popular cars in the day, cheap with the option of using components from more powerful Ford's... and most importantly at the time, rear wheel drive.
I don't know if you have seen it, but if not, it is an absolute must for you to watch the golden age of GROUP B rallying (and why it was banned).
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I think he's seen it, it's usually the first thing people watch regarding rally.
The Blue Ford (@ 13.10) is a 1974-80 Mk 2 Ford Escort this and the earlier white Mk1 Escort @ 11.11) were rear wheel (drive and dominated Rallies until the advent of the 4WD Audi Quattro around 1980.
Ford officially retired from rallying in 1979 but returned a few years later after developing 4wD for their rally cars.
The blue car you asked about is a Ford Escort Mk 2, the engine was a Cosworth.
Ford originally designed the Escort to be a family car and released the Mk1 version in 1968, Ford started making tuned up versions for racing and rallying in 1968 with a Lotus engine.
From 1970 Ford fitted Cosworth BDA 16 valve engine and the RS name was born.
Learnt to drive in a Mk1 Ford Escort (not the rally one obviously 😅). Want to see a masterclass in Rallying? Colin McCrae not a bad place to start
Rally Drivers are literally our best drivers period! I grew up driving a section of the ''Great Orme'' stage of the Cambrian rally every night!
If your in the UK... Llandudno, at night, one way tramac road around the cliffs of the Orme (hill/mountain) it's an epic 5 minute stretch of road!
I agree with this and i am an F1 fan, i still think rally drivers are the best in the world.
Although these V6 turbos sounded great, nothing can beat the class Bs, which raced between 1982-1986. Their power-to-weight ratios are still unmatched to this day. They were super-light in weight and often exceeded 500 hp.
On another note, I was privileged to get to ride as a passenger in a 555 Subaru Impreza driven by Richard Burns for a demonstration lap during the 1995 Hong Kong - Beijing Rally, as I worked on a promo video for the 555 State Express Team. Even though it was only a short, figure of eight dirt track, my heart was in my mouth the entire time and was glad to get out of the vehicle in one piece.
"Suberu"? 😂
@afrog2666
How intelligent of you to pick holes in such a minor mistake.
@ Obviously I meant Subaru. Grow up.
Top 2 best sounding cars, imo, lancia stratos and the impreza, damn sexy:)
@@donallmccrudden4812 Scooby flat 4 and the Delta, HF _Itegrale_ !
The look on your face during that was a joy to watch! More like this pleeese!
It's cool how sometimes they will drop the nearside front wheel into a ditch and give it a boot full of throttle to get it round the corner as fast as possible. I went to loads of club level rallies back in the day.. Im a bit too old for spending long hours in grizdale forest in January now. 😣
Classic Ford Escort MKII, they dominated rallying in the 70s. They have a very distinctive sound from their Cosworth BDA twin cam engine.
What you ought to watch are the World Rally Races (WRC) and see some of the best drivers in the world-period. (Tommy Makinen, Juha Kankkunen, Colin McRae, Thierry Neuville,
Elfyn Evans, Sebastein Ogier, Kalle Rovanpera, Ott Tanak and of course Sebastian Loeb)
One of the very best, was a Frenchman called Sebastian Loeb,
who I think won the world championship 9 times and also laid the record for Pikes Peak. Fantastic drivers, better than Formula 1 and Nascar. On snow/ice/mud/gravel/tarmac/water and sometimes grass! nothing phases them. The notes you refer to are the navigator, who writes down in code all the corners and bends/hills and dips even down to the degrees of the corners etc and shouts them out to the driver, who does not know the circuit. Thats what makes the driver even more amazing.
the next time you come to europe, plan to go to a rally race near you and watch it live, it will be an unforgettable experience for you, even if it's only a national rally championship race, but you can find a european championship race or a world championship race
Better still... find a school in the UK and drive one of these cars yourself 😊
That car is a mk2 escort, probably running a N/A 2.6 Millington diamond series engine 😍👌
The model of that car is a ford escort mk .
There were also a couple of MK I's in there too, the others were MK II's and all of them between 45 and 55 years old too! The thing about these cars was the solid rear axle, rear wheel drive and leaf sprung which is great for bouncing around and doing those swift hard turns without reducing speed too much as it was easy to 'drift' the backend and having a solid axle the whole rear end would bounce off the road easier too.
These cars often won the whole rally outright.
My first car was a 1972 MK I Ford Escort and you really could throw them about the road, not so good when it went into a spin on the snow and ice when you weren't expecting it to though 😁😲
at 8:56 - Road sign - "Caution Lambs on road" made me laugh 🤣
I absolutely love the old mk1 and mk2 Ford escort.. They look and sound fantastic 👌🇬🇧😘✌️
Mark 2 Ford Escort and the rounder model with the pinched grill surround on the front is a mark 1 escort (FAST FURIOUS 6)
The first Ford Focus is basically a Mark 7 Escort as it took over after the Mark 6 (RS Cosworth)
Thiunk you enjoyed that Joel!😆😆
I think one of the locations is the promenade at New Brighton across the Mersey from Liverpool (7.32 & 16.20 ) Wales is a popular location for rallying and the North East around Keilder Forest.
Ohh yes some more please!
Yes you are correct it is New Brighton. They used that section for a stage of the RAC Rally once.
I noticed that too, I've been to that one a couple of times (from Southport).
@rocket404 AHH thanks, thought it was with the Seaforth cranes in the background 👍👍
Check out some "Rally Raid" races (like Dakar)! Sometimes they don't even have roads, just open terrain madness for weeks. There's everything from bikes to trucks and the crashes are spectacular.
That Andy Burton Peugeot 306 was absolutely incredible, such a shame regulations stopped them from using it for longer!
And let's not forget his Alfa-Ferrari. Andy is a farmer and built both cars basically in his barn!
Do miss watching him at Rally's, a must watch for Rally fans!!
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Love some winter UK country driving, I have lots of forest roads on the way to work, I don't go mad, but you can take it at legal pace.
Hi Joel i have watched you videos from when you first started, on one you said drivers on British road are like professional drivers, i live in Wales where ssome of the major rallys are held but on the Welsh roads , rallying comes naturally as 5pm on a Friday its like a rally trying to get home, ha ha, Your friend Pete.
@13:32 Ford Escort RS2000 (late 1970's into 1980's) although traditionally the RS200 had a different front grille and headlamps.
Hello Joel. When younger I would have loved this. I used to drive out into some wild spot in my Toyota Rav4 and test drove a Subaru Impreza but for insurance reasons got a Ford Puma 1.7 instead, then a Focus.
Thanks for your great video!
When you asked what kind of old Ford you see so often. It's a Ford Escort MK2 RS1800 with rear wheel drive only. The construction period was from 1974 to 1980. You could also briefly see its predecessor, the Escort MK1 RS ("dogbone" because of the shape of the radiator grille).
I own both RS models and they are still brutal and fun today!
Thanks!
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Klaus from Düsseldorf
There's a lot held in Wales (hence a lot of gobsmackingly beautiful scenery), some on temporarily closed public roads. My family home was a few miles from the Epynt course. You could hear thrashing engines all up and down the valley.😊
The string of words from the co driver is ‘pace notes’ often they will walk the course before the day of the rally and mostly its distance to the next instruction then the instruction. For example 200 left 90 could be 200m (or more likely back then yards?) left turn 90 degrees. They also use slight, hard, tightens and severe to describe the corners
ItsJps, hey man! Long time no C. Good to see you again, you're more than welcome to come back over to the 🇬🇧 again.
There used to be a rally of Great Britain, and there would be stages typically held in Scotland, the Lakes, Wales , a lot being set in `forestry' areas, but some on public roads which were closed for the day. I remember rallies back in the 1960`s when the little Mini-Coopers were very popular, and the drivers who did well were often from Finland or Sweden. The GB rally one year finished in Margham Park, south Wales, my daughter was at University nearby and had a Norwegian boyfriend who knew the driver who won.
every nordic citizen is a rally driver, of course he knew the winner 🤣
Joel, the Yellow and Black car at 7:30 Is driving on New Brighton Promenade, just across The River Mersey from where you were at Liverpool waterfront when you came to visit us 👍👍
Get yourself along to some of the rally America events. It's like a well organised club event, but on a national level.
Mark 1 & 2 Escorts used to be worth pennies when I started driving in the 1990s. You’re looking 20-50k now for an immaculate model. Crazy.
Have you ever seen the 1969 "Italian Job'? They rally mini coopers around Turin in Italy, it's by no means the rallying we have today but for 1969 its super impressive, you should check it out it's a fantastic film!
Considering the Mini won the Monte Carlo rally 3 times in the sixties, there wasn’t a lot of modification to them for the film
@johnleonard9090 I didn't know that, either way super impressive!
@@johnleonard9090plus one win disqualified on a technicality.
Used to go every year in the 1990s and early 2000s. Flask of tea, lots of weed, warm coat.
Sounds like a dream as a brit dude 😂❤
@therealevo88 lol, yeah it was great back then. The Welsh forests are beautiful.
@@MattyEngland dad used to take me in the 90’s he always used to bring a piece of cardboard for me to sit on and I got Coca Cola in glass bottles. His fags definitely had an unusual odour as well 😂
I LOVE rallies! I haven't been to one for 20+ years. It's such an amazing atmosphere. One of the best things is the smell of the cars. The Ford Escorts are my favourite. Nobody who knows me now would believe it! Got caught in an illegal one once when driving Welsh country roads at night. Saw the headlights ahead and thought "huh, that looks like a rally car". It was and driving straight towards me. Had to get off the road pretty quick!
The answer to your question is a Ford Escort. Personally one of my favourites, they sound fantastic and being rear wheel drive they spend a lot of time going sideways. Try watching some group B footage, those cars were monsters!
God you've got to love the mk2 Escorts. Has one back in the day.
Thats the car you asked about. Rally legend of a car. Same with all Ford UK rally cars. RS Escort Cosworth, Sierra Cosworth.
It's almost like you're watching a cartoon these cars are so tough and maneuverable it doesn't seem real.
4:53 That’s a Skoda Fabia. Simpsons is a Skoda dealer franchise in the UK.
Skoda have a very long rallying history in the UK with wins in their class again and again through the 80s RAC Rallys, despite then being rather old fashioned rear-engined communist-era cars from eastern Europe. Nowadays part of the VW group and very much state-of-the-art cars, made and sold around the World (not the US), and highly regarded by many.
Simpsons is Skoda dealership in Colne East Lancashire.
As already mentioned, the car at 7:38 is competing on the 2011 Promenade Stages at New Brighton. I went to watch that year. Started out wet, windy and cold in the morning, by the afternoon it was very warm and sunny. I remember 2 cars colliding as they both went for split at the stage end, and there was a minor argument between the drivers.
My first & second cars were mark 2 Ford Escorts. Obviously they were the road versions, but the handling was second to none at that time. They still race them in certain categories even now.
its the legendary rally car ford escort no other rear wheal drive only rally car can touch they were always on the winning teams i think it is the most wins of all the manufactures of the 1960.-1970.s and 1980.s rally car ever i could be wrong they have such a great sound you can always know a escort is about to rip right past you
I used to watch Rally-Cross when I was a child, when it was on the TV. However it doesn't seem to be on TV as much. This was usually staged in and normal race track so you would have a mixture of off road ie mud or gravel and tarmac it was so exciting to watch.
the old "ford escort" never disappoints
I notice you say daft now Joel😊😊😊And English southerners say chuffed now It was frowned upon a few years ago.Glad people have got the spirit of it😊😊
The blue car is a mk2 ford escort, they were generally 1600 or 2000 rs's the mexico versions like the red and black one had flared arches and wider spec tyres 25cm typically.
Probably the most popular rally cars in Europe used to be the Subaru Impreza, the Audi Quattro, and the short-lived VW Polo, each with their specialty rally format. Today, however, Toyota has steadily become dominant. EA sports is now the most popular sector of the sport, and Toyota, Hyundai, and to some extent Ford lead in these models.
Lancer evo was always my favourite any of them
A lot of these cars are classic. The boxy looking fords are from the late 70s, early 80s.
Subaru and Mitsubishi are the Titans of Rallying
Made it to Yorkshire Rally last year in Dalby Forest. Used to go to forest rallies a few times a year all over the country, but hadn’t been for about 10 years. It’s wasn’t anything like it used to be. Health and safety has gone mad and spoiled it.
Take a look at some of the classic rallies from the 50/60's the ones held over in Italy and France... Pat Moss In an Austin heally 3000 she was Sterling Mosses younger sister!!!! Awesome driving!!! Rally is the best form of motor sport!!! Keep up the good work!
Yeah, that blue Ford is an Escort Mk2. One of the biggest selling family cars of the late 1970s.
Not to react to, but recommend you watch a 1981 tv show called "In at the deep end Chris Searle" where novice Chris partners a champion driver. They a taking part in the Lombard rally in a Ford Escort such as the one you mentioned. Over the four day rally (in stages) they used 125 tyres, 2 gearboxes and 4 sets of brake pads.
Look for Circuit of Ireland with Opel Mantas in the 80s, its amazing
Ford Escort mk2 . There's also a Ford Escort mk 1 appears a couple of times.
In the early 1980s the Audi Quattro was king of the rallies as the first 4 wheel car competing.
My Stomach felt the ups and downs!
The blue car is a ford escort mk2 from the 1970s
At the start, not a SUBARU but a SEAT, a Spanish brand.
Ralleys here in the uk goes from mud rds in the forests to tarmac in towns in one race
I had 3 escorts. a Mk1 twin cam Rally car with a lotus engine, a Mk1 standard mexico, and a Mk2 1300 popular. Favorite was the mexico until the dreaded tin worm got to it and someone knicked all the badges and lights off it.
Great reaction.
There is a good reason why the Herbie Films were popular in the UK, not to mention the Italian Job
In the 70's my brother and a friend were heavily into rallying at club level, but they moved up to international rallying, but costs meant only racing in Britain, between international events there were plenty of "club" events such as 12 car, this is a race primary against the clock but on open roads, where are start heading to map coordinates, the idea is to take the shortest legal route, it might not be the quickest route, but that would show up in the time taken and the distance traveled, the idea was to promote better map reading but also common sense road use.
The international rallies we took part in were as you see here, following a cordened off route "quickest from A to B before moving to the next stage within a set time "this was to stop people from trying to get repaires to the car outside of the set times allowed (service stops)".
You might have heard the name Colin McCre, sadly killed in a helicopter crash, his dad Jimmy was racing at the same time as we were, he is a wonderful person, no bluff and bluster with him, it didn't matter that we were a privateer team, he is a lovely bloke. You mentioned about the Isle of Man TT there is a great tradition of motor spot on the Isle of Man and the Manx Rally is one of those events, now bikes squeezing around the island is entertaining, getting cars around at speed "you breath in for them". Much of the rallying done in the UK has been dropped unfortunately, logistics and fuel prices are big concerns, as well as environmental of course, but they still happen, just not to the same degree or for as long, I'm pleased that you are finding it of interest, the Group B cars were absolutely mad, watch some of those, you won't believe your eyes I promise you.
Joel i use to run a group 2 rally car appearing all over Europe loved it miss it now pure Adeline sport you should try it one day mate
Like so many other have said, you have to watch some group B rally's from the eighties. The Welsh stages were always a thrill to watch. And your right about the co-driver, such an important role, without the co-driver calling out the driver would effectively be blind, thyey can only tear around these stages like they do because of the co-driver and his or her notes.
When you are back in the Lake District, go to Cockmouth and visit Maclom Wilsons M-Sport, and he produces Ford Rally cars.
lot of fun to drive those fords ,a great many tpes of ford were made with a light arse ,they need a bag of cement in the boot ,well to drive normally not on a rally of course
This is a compilation, not a single course or event. Of course this is not possible in automatic cars, the stick shift is needed to make instant gear changes to get those turns. These ralleys take place all over the UK & Europe, both day & night, often endurance events through mountain & forest areas. The co-pilot navigator directs the driver. They both will have studied the course minutely beforehand.
I think that the car you enquired about early on in the vid. was a Suzuki Swift.
"told you not to stand there" *everyone laughs* lol
One careful owner never raced, rallied or rolled.
The MkII Escorts (as others have said, the one you saw a lot of) are very popular here, and across Europe (though moreso here in the UK). They were successful in the late 70s in rallying, and were also a very popular road car, which meant there were a lot of them, and so they became cheap as they dated, and so a lot of people bought them - as you can see - to turn into rally cars. They're not cheap now.
Mitsubishi Evos are also fairly popular here... similar (I think) price points to the WRXes, but we had Evos with 350-400hp from the dealers, so understandable they'd be liked for rallying.Though getting more expensive since they're not made any more, and WRXes are There one you liked the sound of was a Peugeot; 306. looks like a proper rally kit-car, possibly ex works. Skoda Fabias are very popular through Europe too... in mainland, and especially into the Balkans, they become the go-to. Northern Europe, it's Volvos. Italy/Spain etc... not sure actually. Germany you'll see old Mercedes and Audis being rallied. I think one of the night time ones in this might've been an A3.
Ford escort MK1 1968-1974 MK2 1975-1980
7:42 is Andy burtons DTM powered Peugeot , it originally got banned, previous to that he built a successful Ferrari powered Alfa .
Old car is a 1970's Ford Escort mk1 rs2000
4:52 Understandable, not a brand you could see in America. That's Škoda. Škoda Fabia 2nd gen to be precise, same model as in 18:42. And the car at 2:09 and 17:06 is 1st gen Škoda Fabia.
Colin McRae is the big name of the 90's when it comes to rally. Do a video on him! Also you should binge some EVENFLOW videos, it's some mad Irish guy that has a load of rally style cars on his farm, he does comedy skits involving the cars. You'll get what I mean if you watch it, no regrets. 😂👌
Some of this seems to be in the Brecon Beacon Mountains in Wales.
You should watch rallying of the ‘70s no 4 wheel drive stuff plenty of rear wheel drive action, lots of mk1/2 escorts, lancia stratos, some of the best rally cars were in the 70s in my opinion, should check it out.
The white and blue car at 4.37..Mothers in the countryside going to pick their children up cose they are late😂😂😂
Those Fords are Mk1 and Mk2 Ford Escorts. Classic/Legendary Rally Cars! The MK1 are from the late 1960s! The MK2 from the 1970s! So theyre 50-60 years old! (Obviously uprated components now id imagine), but the actual vehicles will be 50-60 years old! & Still Being Ragged! Lol 😂
My Dad and Grandad Both had Escort Mk1's in the 1970s, Would be worth a FORTUNE now!
Whenever something has wheels, somebody is going to race them!
And they don't even stop to change their underwear!!😂😂🇬🇧🇬🇧
Joel if your interested there are a few Rally driving schools in the UK . Yorkshire has a few near York , get your radio show guys on the case
You will have to be able to drive a manual as they appear to use the Mark 2 Escort you where asking about , I did my weekend course in Mid Wales in a Mark 2 just like on the video, great fun and there is nothing like going through a forest flat out and then going sideways 😅😅😅
It`s a Ford Escort, many versions of them and look good with `big boots on'.
Respect to all motorsport pilots. But rally pilots are the best!
13:30 it's a mk1 Ford Escort. Probably 1970s or early 1980s.
Rallying did not start in mainland Europe. Britain developed its rallying from time trials on public roads that eventually took in off-road stages. Today rallying rules and formats have standardised across the world and now broadly fall into two categories modern and classic rallying, with modern rallying following the main competing manufacturer cars, whereas classic rallying harks back to cars used up to 1980's like the Ford Escort, which is a perennial favourite. Modern rallying is faster but classic rallying is more spectacular and entertaining.
the mk 2 escort is the car and welsh scottish and irish rally mad should go and watch some of the donegal rally or watch frank kelly and babey blue he will show u what a mk 2 can do and we have people who do that over here do cars up and leave dont use them there known over here as garage queens haha
You'd enjoy the Audi Lancia movie. True story
Hey Joel
Mk 1 and 2 Escorts Rs2000s from the 70s
Video Also had
metro 6R4
Focus and fiesta st
Peugeot 306
Hyundai Accent
Impreza WRX
Lancer Evo
Skoda Fabia.
Rally stars you need to watch,the late and legendary Colin McRae and Richard Burns.
If you fancy a change of pace how about the British touring car championship (btcc)
Can recommend the 1992 final at Silverstone, and pretty much any race from the Super Touring era.
Also watch Gordon Sheddons save at a very wet Rockingham race track.
Enjoy from a damp and misty England.
The Finns always seemed to produce the best rally drivers
Check out James May reading pace notes for Chris Meek in “ out of showroom” Bentley! 150 mph forest track . Unbelievable skill!… pete uk
"V" registration (1979) Ford Escort Mk II
The best Rear wheel Drive Rally cars were the MK2 Ford Escort and the Group B Opel Manta 400, they are legendary cars, drive safe.
13:37 so this is a Ford Mk2 escort made from 1975-1980…great cars and one of my favourites, rebuilt 6 of them over the years. The Mk1 and Mk2 never got sold in the US, you did get a version of the Mk3 but they made changes to the bumpers etc and it looked horrible compared to the euro spec Mk3s…tbh Ford came up short on the American market with the great cars Ford Europe were producing like the Ford Sierra especially the Cosworths were great rally cars…you did get a version of this to but was rebranded to one of fords sister companies called Merkur but like the Mk3 escort they changed bumpers and trim and it looked fat and nasty compared to the euro version
A lot of the cars are Ford Escorts which haven't been built in years. Look up MST cars on TH-cam
Ford escort mark 2 same as mine back in the day joel
Loved it, we need one from inside the car next please.
@@lilyshambles5644 and one with Joel in the passenger seat 👍👍👍
@@lachlanmain6004 Oh yes, that would be fantastic. How can we make it happen?
I watched the RAC rally for years all over the uk and, in the dark. It isn’t dangerous and I have been to the TT too, that is nowhere near dangerous.
Americans are used to ovals in enormous stands.
Back in the 1970’s your ticket to watch bikes or cars racing said in big letters, motorsport is dangerous!
Stand in a forest in the dark 6 feet from Michelle Mouton thrashing the life out of an Audi Quattro.