Maxi slayer? Exclusive first sail on the radical 60ft foiler Flying Nikka
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2022
- Built for long distance maxi style Med races, meet the first foiling maxi Flying Nikka. Toby Hodges had an exclusive first sail, with the full story in Yachting World October 2022
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Absolutely brilliant first stab at a foiling offshore racer. A lot of potential there for sure. Daring, creative and simply fantastic. Eye candy. Well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Can't wait to see these in the Sydney Hobart!!
Wow .. That Boat really Rocks !! 20+ up wind OMG!! Amazing !! ....Thanks for Sharing This Adventure on this Racer!!
Every square inch of it is absolutely amazing!
with the noise level of a working excavator on board - constantly?? nope. lol
It is interesting, and fun to watch, but I am an old sailor, and as a young man, I loved sail-handling. This is not the same.
But about twice as exciting.
Amazing yacht! I'm so jealous. I had some helm time on an open 60 once, I thought that was the bomb. This boat is clearly in a completely different class! Thanks for showing us this video!
A pleasure, thanks Richard
Amazing tour of this beautiful boat, thank you
You'll be wanting to review a foiling IMOCA next, then an ocean racing foiling trimaran! Most enjoyable contrast to the luxury cruisers!
How exciting, I will be processing this for weeks!
This is awesome. Amazing how far the technology has come. This thing is more like a plane. The efficiency is unreal.
Fantastic yacht, future of sailing, shame about the hydraulic motor noise just takes that edge off of the majestic silence usually of a sailing boat.
Could use electrics instead, this is a first attempt.
Spectacular video and boat ! Great shot Toby !
Thank you Giorgio!
Hope to get more reviews more often from Toby.
Amazing and beautiful piece of engineering. However it goes against the reason for my love of sailing... No engine noise... Just the wind and waves.⛵
agreed
Engine noise can be reduced. This is experimental.
Yep.
Yes but you finish 3-5x faster so less time to hear the engine😂. The engine is just sitting down below inside what is essentially a carbon echo box. I’m going to guess future editions could have the engine in a soundproof box. I’d be willing to trade slightly more weight for the quiet.
totally agree.
Wow the interior is so clean of clutter with all the hoses so nicely managed.
A cluttered boat will get you killed.
I dreamt up this foil revolution 40 years ago when I was a child. Had my dads carpentry shop make a model for me out of wood.
Guess I should of spoke to someone in the Yatch world back then. 😊
Decades before that/ you, a gentleman at the China Lakes NAS was running trifoiler models that are still beyond what is being built now
40 years ago they would have been banned , now the modern Era offers support and opertunity to sail them
Absolutely fascinating.
Great show, and I'm impressed. respects to all, and thank you.
Much appreciated
Stunning speed with great innovations indeed! Mahalo YW from Hawaii-they need to do Transpac ‘23!!
I didn’t expect so much engine noise. Amazing boat
You forgot to put the helmet on.
@@hurri7720 That's a good one, future might be electric.
Too noisy for my liking. Might as well go powerboat racing. Maybe one day the mainsail can be made from solar panels for an electric hydraulic system.
Sailing has changed so much since I was in it in the 90s.
Amazing technology.
Excellent video Tobey. I couldn't agree more with your finale assessment of why it was built. We have to build better and faster. Right? I also like the vagabond look. 🤣👍
As usual. I hope to see more from you. Cheers.
Thank you Keith!
Incredible!
Wow amazing design, amazing speed, looks fantastic and potentially an exciting new racing class, I'm sure there will be an improved quieter engine and well all need to remember it is a Prototype I had the Privilege of sailing with Ben Lexons in Sydney Australia the actual starting point for the winged keel it has come a long way and all new designs are very exciting evolutions for racing Yatchs and these are not ment to be cruising Yatchs for those that wrongly try to compare them.
Enjoy your Sailing 👍😊
no matter how fast this yacht is. the concept that you have the constant engine noise level of a working excavator on board - while sailing - is absurd and a deal breaker. the beauty of sailing, is the wind and sounds of the ship going through the water. that constant noise is absolutely undoable. And if it's only a prototype engine... who decides to do a first-look vid on a boat with such a fatal flaw. Bad marketing decision. slap a few mufflers on first. but even then - still, it's not in the spirit of sailing to fill a tank and smell exhaust fumes.
Beautiful.
Very impressive design and cost structure, the build looks muscular like a bodybuilder.
It would be incredible if Pearl Yachts, or one of the other incredible makers of luxury cruising yachts, came out with a super fast foiling cruiser.
I think our great Yachting World host would have the best time covering THAT monster of a fantastic yacht!
Great video as always and thank you!
Pearl Yachts?
This thing is only 7 tons, the stress on materials is very great and it will wear out very fast. You don't want a bigger boat.
🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩Wow ! What a fabulous boat 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
When the design first came out with the ac75's, it was amazing
Nice one Toby
Dynamite all the way. Great job Toby!
Thanks Don!
Appreciate the video in 4k Toby great work
Thanks 👍
I love all the advancements that this craft has made. I hope they go with a one design and race this and others just like her. I think I'd spend the weight to get rid of most of that motor noise.
looking forward to the coming years when this foiling tech starts appearing in cruising yachts
I'm waiting for that myself. I think it's going to take awhile. But yes. Something simple beyond anything we have seen yet.
Hi Toby
Wow ! What a fabulous race boat this one is...! It’s beyond me why not so many people asked in the past to see test sails on racing vessels such as this one... probably coz we just got used to see most test reviews on cruising boats.
But I think Toby, in my opinion of course, that in our time and era, performance cruisers are the one to go...
BUT TOBY: we all have our fingers crossed in hope to see the long awaited Beneteau FIRST 44, the 53’s younger sister .. In your channel
🤞🏼 🤞🏼🤞🏼
Ok, hint taken thank you, I'll try to get aboard the First 44!
@@yachtingworld 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
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Imagine one of these going by a tall ship of 3-400 years ago!
Flyin dutchman ?
impossible, there was no diesel for the generators in those days. With some whale grease, maybe?
@@FLH3official bio diesel?😁
They would think its an alien ship, they’d poop their pants. Lol
these things do not haul cargo
how may tons of guano can they carry
6:10 this guy is great. Changed my mind to positive.
Gnarly. Just...gnarly.
Self-tacking jib! Almost ready for family cruising 😂
beautiful mortorboat!!!
my thoughts exactly. Surprising the< are allowed to run a generator during races.
The engine noise is certainly unfortunate. Like some details on what the engine is, how they expect to keep it running for offshore races, it’s almost semantics on whether this is wind or engine driven?
Took me a moment to realise that Toby said bucking bronco... I was thinking all along with the engine noise and the speed this things goes at that it must be difficult for those on board, glad Toby mentioned that. It is a very impressive bit of kit, but wonder it if might not be a hare V tortious type thing when racing, that the sheer amount of time that the crew has to be on the ball might mean they will become fatigued and make mistakes that could cost them race wins. It will be interesting to see how it goes. Cheers for the vid.
When you are going that fast you have to pay attention, will have to address that problem. Artificial Intelligence??
@@tedmoss , the time at sea will be shorter though.
Just wow 😀
Just looks soo right.
Well, now we obviously need a touring version of the boat, more civilized, with sound deadening, some solar panels flush with the deck, a fridge, some bunks, a single heads and so on.
Would likely loose quite a lot of speed, but it likely still be faster than the extreme sport-tourist cats costing absurd amounts of money.
It would be a really nice thing to fly to Croatia for a week, and be able to just go to Italy in like 5 hours of sailing in light breeze - that would be quite amazing.
I don't think this would be a good idea 😄
BALTIC 142 CANOVA
@@jacko_about what the hell? Why not? What else do we have to do? Cheers mate!
@@keithfaulkner1288 well, simply because of the speed, power and obviously safety. Crew aboard this type of craft is required to wear helmets for a good reason. To be able to control this boats you need to be on top of the sailing game, at a level where all the Sail GP and AC crew is. If you put bunks, fridge and all the rest of stuff, you will also add plates, cups, your favorite bottles of wine and so on... I have experience with big and fast motor yachts and I saw to many times situations where the skipper put the sticks down and some of guest aboard have few seconds to grab something or did couple of steps to stay up right. This idea to me is like put a soft suspension to a racing car. Better idea is to have a "classic" type of a fast cruiser to enjoy sailing with your friends and this type of a monster to have fun. If you don't believe me take this example: go for a day ride with your family on a racing road bikes. It's a wish thinking to make this type of a boat cruise friendly. At least for now.
@@jacko_about ohh man. I'm sorry you had to write all that. I was mostly kidding. Yeah that's another world.
SWEET!
What a beautiful thing! Goes too, those polars will be fun. Clear mylar on the foot and under boom cowl? oh and that ICE engine has to go just on the noise, surely a fuel cell and electric on V2?
Can’t imagine seeing that do the Fastnet
Why not fit an electric motor? That would make the whole thing a mean green machine. Great video and thanks for sharing.
That would mean a battery the size of the boat and too much weight (and electrical problems ...) -
Great images and access to such an advanced sailing rocket. I’m guessing the keel adds stability for longer and rougher races. Love the design.
No, the keel is there because of the regulations of the circuit of regattas the boat will join. Cheers
@@zepafra Without the keel, the boat would fall over when it’s not moving forward, a flaw with the AC 40s.
Maybe I'm wrong, but foils used seem to be not so high performance ones...well a lot of space for future improvements :-)
Amazing engineering, really cool, and I would love to see one of these in real life.
Another fun thougth: besides the noise from the engine, the boat doesn't appear to make effective use of resources (diesel). It made me wonder - if the same 110 HP engine wer to drive a foiling motor boat, could a crew of 8 travel faster from A to B than on the flying Nikka? Likely, but of course, less style.
It would be interesting to compare fuel consumption of a straight foiling powerboat to this over a straight line upwind.
The Foiling Forklift!
Love the technology and the excitement, but does it have an onboard generator to power the hydraulics? If so then it kind of defeats the purpose a little. Great video as usual Toby...
Thanks Lee. And yes it uses the main engine (not generator) to power the hydraulics when sailing
@@yachtingworld Main engine? Well, that's nonsence. It needs a ultra isolated e-generator and togher with an electric drive, that would be quite & perfect. And why not plaster the huge deck area with step on solar cells and a battery bank with the newest, lightest lithium something compound. A good e-generator and very good electric drive, are together of better energy efficiency than any fuel engine drive! Possibly the owner of Flying Nikka doen't know that, you could tell him.
@@fritz3388 I think its more expensive and you cant match the power to weight ratio of ICE engine, with electric at the moment.
I would also prefer an electric drive, this noise is annoying when sailing.
@@fritz3388 When you say e-generator, what's powering that?
Having the tractor engine noise reminds me of being on a motorboat. You could get a nice one for this money as well!!
Seeing the quad copter overhead view of the leeward foil, at 2:10, the submerged foil shows aeration streaming from the centre of the trailing edge. Does this happen on the Americas Cup boats? One would think this adds a significant of drag.
The foretriangle is truly insane.
lovelyyyyy
another Italian missile! beautiful!
Next step perhaps is to replace that annoying engine with a combination of water & wind turbines & solar power to drive the hydraulics?
After all, for most sailors the the lack of engine noise when under sail is a quiet relaxing & enjoyed thing.
They would both slow it down 😔
With today's technology it's simply not possible. The engine in that boat is a Yanmar 3JH40, or 40hp diesel with approx. 25 gallon tank. Fully fueled the entire package weighs around 650lb and has a runtime of 10 hours on a single tank of fuel at full throttle (what it takes to run the hydraulics) in an endurance race. That in electric motor terms mean you would need a sustained 30kw 3000rpm electric motor which itself weighs around 350lb, coupled with the required 150kWH battery bank required to run 10hrs, or four Tesla 3 batteries at approx. 6000lb. 6000lb for electric or 650lb for diesel. Trust me they've already thought about it and ran the numbers, it's basic middle school math. Solar/wind/battery power is absolutely nowhere near capable of replacing diesel in any situation where low weight and endurance is required. At least not in our lifetimes.
The only reason electric cars are somewhat possible today is very low rolling resistance and aerodynamics for very specific users. To power a Telsa Model 3 at 60mph it only requires around 20hp or 15kw. They have a range of around 270 miles so while that sounds like a lot, that's only a runtime of around 4hrs per charge at 15kw. That sailboat requires 10hrs per charge at 30kw.
But what about 30kw of solar panels? That would require approx. 1000 square feet of space, which means you'd need 6 of those boat's worth of decking for solar panels. So what if it's not sunny? So nope.
30kW wind generator? The rotor diameter of a 30kw wind generator is 45 feet. That's about the same size as the mast of that boat, so nope... no wind generator.
Hydro power? To generate 30kw of power with water, the boat simply wouldn't move. The power required to spin the turbine would be greater than what the sails produce to move the boat.
In 100 years things might change, but as of right now there's nothing in our foreseeable future.
@@TexasStormChaser Your analysis is reasonable, but it is far from proof that electric would not be as, or more capable. If they don't require diesel hydraulic in their new rule, I can assure you that in less than five years the class will be dominated by electric.
Your calculation assumes an electric control system would take as much power as the diesel puts out -direct electric would take far less (more efficient direct actuators and off rather than idle).
Just because this DH system has a fuel capacity of 10hrs doesn't mean it needs more than 4. It's 10 because nobody cares about the size of the tank and they want the possibility of offshore race participation (which may never pan out).
An electric system with 4 hrs of battery and 8 hrs of fuel cell standby could be developed within the performance envelope of the class.
I have No words to describe what I have just seen, flying over the water 💦 at incredible speeds. Are the engines only to power the hydraulics? Can they be silents in some way? Thanks 🙏 so much for exposing me to this incredible beautiful, craft and my congratulations to the designers and creators of this incredible creation. Best Wishes, Kind Regards Errol.
Batteries and electric motor powered hydraulics.
Kind of fun... but can you imagine the sound of that engine screaming its nuts off all the time!
NO THANKS! Bet they are sucking fumes at certain wind angles too.
Amazing Vessel, I’ve never heard of Helix sails? They appear to be a very thick material, cant even imagine the cost.
They are load sharing sails from North Sails. Other companies make similar too
Love it. Going to ignore all the negative comments from the 6 knot crowd.
Nice. Not as fast as a shorter SailGP F50 or ocean going tri foiler, but good a option for monohull sailors
Hopefully they can stay upright and it sure looks fast and fun. Looks like there's who can capsize the most competition going on the Americas Cup circuit and hopefully they won't join in. I just wonder why there's not a lifting keel or would that be against some racing regs. The keel do provide some stabilizing moment so I guess it's good to have even on the foils.
i wonder how much gain/loss they could have had with an keel mounted hydrogenerator and all electric hydraulics. instead of taking water for cooling they probably could use a bit more water for power generation then ditch the diesel for a an lighter electric motor?
plus they could cap it and run on battery only for short race like les voiles de st barth and lose additionnal drag :D
Absolutely Great Sailing Ship. Fantastic! The only thing I don't like, ist the noise of the combustionengine while sailing. You got the sound of a motorboat on a sailingboat while sailing. That sucks. Maybe the next step could be a fuel cell for electricgeneration to create the pressure for the hydraulics by electricmotor. That would be much more silent as the combustion engine.
wow, wondering if it's possible or planned to do Atlantic crossing to beat the record?
There's two helms, is one (port) dominate over the other or is the second (starboard) helm there if the pilot gets tired or if there's an emergency (redundant, backup)?
22 knots INTO the wind, hell. I know the AC boats were passing 50 knots downwind. The engine noise is because to reduce weight, there is no sound deadening, or engine enclosure.
Are we going to see it race in the Sydney to Hobart
sounds like they borrowed the engine and hydraulic system from a caterpillar excavator hehe
besides that f**** annoying noise this boat is just amazing!
I'm surprised to see it powered by the old faithful Yanmah, and not some Formula 1 engine. I've never heard of a diesel used for high revs.
I believe the diesel is used for fuel safety reasons rather than gas used on outboards? Still operating it 24-7 would require a lot of fuel for ocean racing?
You'd think once it gets going you could use a re-gen prop on the keel to power the electric?
Aye! We/I concur; "where air & water meet" Is the equation for solving Our Collective and Connective processes and issues to Simpler Safer and Swifter Sail/Foil/"Glide" FttW!
I'm going to try to win the "silliest comment award", here goes: it's amazing how this boat foils, and at this point, seeing the hull completely above the water, you wonder why the designer fitted a folding prop to this thing? I mean he could have saved a few hundred euros as a fixed prop would to the exact same thing for half the cost and no disadvantages!
It will race in displacement mode too Vasco so for that and the ability to take off easily too it needs as little drag as possible
amazing colocatio boat oh oh oh
Yours wooden widge since 777-3
So, the boom never crosses over the helm stations? I imagine not in foiling mode, as the speeds are so hight that the apparent wind is always at an sngle that prevents that. But maybe in displacement mode it does? In that case that sort of skirt under the boom would hsve to be removed. Ths part could be transparent to allow for better visibility
Correct, the boom doesn't cross that far as it is an apparent wind machine. And the deck sweeper below the boom was being trialled, but a transparent window could be beneficial
What is the generator type noise in the background? Prop/battery regen?
Très impressionnant mais j’ai beaucoup de mal avec tous ces voiliers (Rambler 88, wild oats, Wally…..) qui doivent faire tourner un diesel en permanence pour alimenter l’hydraulique. Mais sinon quel bateau fantastique 👏🏻👏🏻
Create a foiler with a two moving parallel arms system (one above and one below) and may increase the distance from the hull to the foiler, allowing bigger sails and stronger winds….just a thought.
Your thought doesn't make any sense
They should make the central keel a foil as well, so the size of the side foils can be reduced for less drag
Could it have electric motor to run hydraulics? Eliminate the loud noise? Or would battery weight be too great?
Wondering how much fuel is consumed in operating the hydraulics and by how much if it offsets the efficiency of lifting the boat out of the water.
Could you get rid of the center keel if it was a catamaran?
Look at the shape of the foils... Batman is somewhere in this! HA!
There's the skill of sailing, and there's the art of sailing. This is all the former, and absolutely none of the latter. That said, I'd like to spend and afternoon aboard.
Hate that you cut the transition from standard to foil every time, was that proprietary? Just a note great stuff other wise.
Hello. What is this noise that we constantly hear when the boat is moving forward?
Is that a mullet, Toby????
Could you have cut cost by using electrical actuators instead of hydraulics?
I really want to do this
So all the winches run on hydraulics? that means the motor has to be running all time too right? How do the sheets not get tangled?
It's a fantastic machine but, 2 questions:
Number 1: is that still a boat or it's a different kind of machine?
Number 2 and more relevant: is that still a sailing boat considering she needs an engine ?
Could it handle rough seas and if so how high?
So... this boat needs a diesel engine and fuel tanks to operate?
I get that is still sailing, but would I be right in assuming that limits how far it can sail?
Why not just use the power from the engine to drive a prop?
That ain't sailing, it's a headache listening to that damn engine rattling the whole time. The best part of sailing is when you turn the engine OFF!
Lovely tucked away marina at Punta Ala, we built and fitted the DIFFER 54 there (carbon/kevlar). The hull was built in Spain and we took over in Fallonica (Indianna Yachting) and the final six weeks in the large brick shed at the end. Went for a swim every lunchtime, happy days.
If i have this yacht I will travel all around the World on the ocean.
Italian and Pisa’s proud
Pretty sure they can drastically lower the sound of that Yanmar (diesel?), with echoic paneling. It is so loud it will wear people out despite the weather and wind. Interesting choice of engine rather than a Volvo. Amazing they only need 100 hp motor. Could stick a motorcycle engine in there....I am assuming they need the torque more than the horsepower.
After watching the F 50's in Sail GP hit 100 km an hour, this craft might just surprise people. Like the airline pilots say, if it looks like a beautiful airplane it probably flys like a beautiful airplane.