The sister who brought out a skeleton knew exactly what she was doing, it wasn’t a “joke”. It was done in malice. He’s right to cut ties with her, and anyone in the family who’s standing up for her behavior. That’s beyond repulsive. He sounds like a lovely caring person, and I’m glad he has his fiancés back. I hope they have a very happy life together. 💛
@@joshuaverkerk4532 Skeleton sister would be reinvited, but then spiked with nuclear laxatives the night before and the whole of the wedding. Family gets to be there, she suffers and isn't around. Then never speak again
That would be one of those situations where my family would never hear from me again. Like, move houses and change your phone number and don't tell anyone who thought that "prank" was funny where I am. They already know why, so I wouldn't even need to explain it.
I hate when phrases like "keep the peace" or "be the bigger person" are used *towards* someone who's been wronged. To me, in that situation, I just hear those phrases as "take someone's crap and be happy about it".
Agreed! I’m definitely a pushover & it’s soooo upsetting to hear this the few times I can stick up for myself! What about them figuring out how to be a DECENT human & “be the bigger person” 🤬
Omg yes! I think I'd be more likely to forgive the wrong doer if the person asking "me" to be the "bigger person " chides the wrong doer first, upto my satisfaction 😤
Exactly, it's rewarding sh*tty behaviour because the other is expected to be the "better person". That's a hell no. If you want to be an entitled douchenozzle you will be treated accordingly. I refuse to be the bigger person if wronged, know your battles and choose them wisely 🙂
Agreed. I never want to be harsh to anyone saying "be the bigger person" as I think most of the time they mean well, but it's not a good argument to not calling out shitty behaviour.
Be the bigger person is such a condescending phrase. \on an entirely different matter if you smash someones kneecaps with a hammer, do it from the side so they will never heal...just saying.
Brother of skeleton girl... YOU ARE AMAZING!! The devotion to defending your fiancee and not letting your sister hurt her without consequence is just phenomenal. You were 100% in the right!
We keep talking about red flags, but the guy breaking up with his family over the skeleton "joke" is the greenest of green flags. Kudos to him for standing up for his partner.
Yeah, but when the partner says she wants the standoff to end, it starts being about HIM and not whatever embarrassment she might have felt. There's a time to hang on and a time to let go, and real adults know when to let go.
@@Idkmybffaj Yes, but if my partner said, "Okay, cool it, I'm fine now", I'd back down. Because my partner's feelings are supposed to the point to all of this, NOT my ego.
Nah its the principle of what you are willing to allow. You teach people how to treat you. I would never let it slide, I dont tolerate disrespect on any level towards the ones I love.
My friend was a photographer and was actually in a similar situation to the last story. She went around taking fun pictures of the guests when the Bridal party was away and was suddenly blindsided with an engagement. The engaged party tried to get my friend to send them their engagement photos directly. She said that she was under contract and could not do that. She then told the bride what happened. The bride apparently was a petty person, so she hatched an evil plan with the photographer. When she released the photos, she omitted the engagement photos... which ended up forcing the engaged party to ask directly about them. The bride shrugged and said she paid the photographer to shoot her wedding, so she only got pictures of her wedding. She didn't recall having an engagement as part of her wedding. So they had to grudgingly call my friend who gave them her rate sheet, her last minute booking fees, a rush charge, and like a dozen other bullshit charges. They threatened to leave a bad review. She threatened to delete the engagement pictures forever. The bride in the end got a nice large discount since my friend ended up getting paid double for 1 night's work.
I've never been able to see any benefits come from "being the bigger person" For the person being bigger. In fact it makes people wonder if there's more than the surface slight (like revenge) Just a lot of "I should have said/done" sleepless nights for the bigger person!
We were told we could never have children. At my best friend's wedding I was 13wks and told no one. It's her day. She would have been super excited for me but I just wanted to be super excited for her along with everyone else celebrating her day.... My news could wait.
I was 14 weeks pregnant at my brother's wedding, and as it wasn't easy to hide, my husband went ahead and told my brother and now-SIL privately a couple days before. They were going swimming with us, so it's not like I could hide it anyways. 😅 Then, after my brother and SIL left the wedding for their honeymoon, we told the rest of my immediate family while we cleaned up wedding stuff, lol. It worked out really well, and everyone was so happy for everyone else. It was a good day.
In regards to the one where the girl used a fake skeleton as a prank, someone once said, "When a person tells you that you hurt them, you don't get to decide that you didn't."
For the last story, I would've pretended the photos didn't exist unless the bridesmaid finally brought it up, forced her to admit and explain why she did what she did and then charge her for the photos. I'd then give the money to the photographer so she'd be compensated for her extra work.
My sister was the “it was just a joke” kind growing up. But the difference was, my parents never let her get away with stuff like that, much less DEFEND HER! Now, as an adult, she is one of the most caring, empathetic, generous people I know. It’s almost like holding people accountable for their actions teaches them to be BETTER PEOPLE!!
My parents were too scared to reprimand and punish my sister as she would go into a fit of rage (even when very young) and turn black and blue with anger. Now, as a 36 yr old woman, she's still very very entitled and talks to anyone without thinking twice and my parents who are really old (almost 75 yrs) still pick up behind her and are scared of her. Sometimes, all it takes are two tight slaps and time out.
@@alkarandam I am sorry. I still remember what my father advised me when my daughter was born He said if you have to say yes to something your daughter asks say yes immediately. But if you have to say NO stick to it till eternity. Never ever give in as that sends a message that a tantrum or obstinacy can win a child anything. I royally ignored my 2 yr old daughter's 10 minute tantrum at home. She never ever threw one at home. She tried to embarrass me in public once with a magnificent meltdown. It included stomping and rolling on the floor. I let her. I ignored her completely and apologized to my friends. They wore ear plugs and said don't worry and use this as a teaching moment . No tantrum ever again.
I have a brother who capitalized on the “I’m only kidding” proclamation since he was just a child. Needless to say, it only got worse as we got older, with my parents basically telling me to suck it up. I guess he was only kidding when he stole money from me, from my business, stole my furniture, my jewelry, and I could go on. He got away with it all. Then he and my other brother, a lawyer, attempted to steal over $10,000 from an award I’d won in Small Claims Court. Wait. Not over yet. While I was hospitalized, my brother, the lawyer shows up to check in on me, but hands me an envelope that contains end of life documents, living will, etc. didn’t dawn on me til years later that I was being set up once again. Funny, no? Follow your gut. If you’re a pushover, be a former pushover. I honestly cannot believe how I was treated. It wasn’t funny ever.
@@bobbarth801 I'm really sorry that you have arseholes for brothers. What possessed the lawyer one to attempt to steal your money, when it would have resulted in his disbarment???
The whole “let it go” with the sister situation is bizarre. First…I’m questioning how anyone could think the skeleton would ever be funny, but if the groom’s family down to the aunts and uncles are boycotting the wedding I am also questioning that there is something very wrong with the entire family dynamic.
Parents probably spun the story something else for the extended family. Something like "brat made a innocent joke/prank and OP banned us from wedding!" Instead explaining what "joke" was.
The Bride should ask the photographer how much she would charge for engagement pictures, and then charge her "friend" that much for the envelope (or don't release them with her wedding album, and refer her "friend" to the photographer who can then charge her for her engagement photographs) (and then only maybe include one picture from the bunch that was least like anengagement picture and include it in her with her wedding album).
I would have had the photographer keep them and then tell her to let the friend know what she charges for the photos. The photographer took them. She shouldn’t let them go until she gets fairly compensated. That’s just so creepy of her bridesmaid. I could kind of understand the first part because clearly the boyfriend was stupid enough to propose at the table at the wedding but maybe the bridesmaid didn’t know and had little control over it. But the whole picture thing after the fact was just straight up gross. Idk why people think it’s okay to do any of those things on someone else’s wedding day. I would want my own special time and date and I wouldn’t want to make anyone else feel overshadowed.
That's what I was thinking. It's justified since it would be a reimbursement for something she already paid for and upcharge for interfering in the wedding with her engagement.
That's what I'M sayin. The photographer was skimped too and stating a fee also hints that you know. If the friend flips over it, well, I would respond that under contract, the photos ARE your property.
That last one. I would've shown my friend all the pics except hers, feigned ignorance, let her dig her own grave. Then given the photographer permission to SELL the friend her pictures, spilt the money. She not only went behind bride's back, but expected the bride to foot the bill for her engagement pics just because it was technically the same shoot!!
The bride did pay for the bill though. It sounds like the bride paid for all the photos when she said they are her property. So the bride now has them. Either she would pay me for them or I'd delete them.
My eyes were trying to pop out of my head at the dead sister skeleton “joke”! SHE WON’T EVEN APOLOGIZE!! She’s probably the baby of the family, and her parents would defend her even if she straight up murdered someone. Also, I’d contact those other family members refusing to not come, I get the feeling the parents told a different story to the extended family on what really happened. What a horrible human being, who need enemies with a sister like that?
Seriously. If i was that OP i would tell family that i will invite sister again when she apologises to the fianceé, the fianceé's family and THE DEAD SISTER.
The groom's family also seem to not know what words mean. Their definition of "bigger person" sounds more like "doormat" and called the sister "edgy" instead of something more appropriate like "a@#%$^" or "horrible human being"
Those people siding with the brat sister either don't know the whole story or are as bad as her so not having them at the wedding wouldn't be a great loss.
@@felinemoonchild I was thinking something like that as in she better be glad she didn't get beat up! That was horrible beyond words. Sorry for your loss.
For the sister and skeleton story…if you have to give into this then it’s not worth to “keep the peace” that “peace” doesn’t exist, it’s just an excuse that horrible people use to not deal with the consequences of their own actions and that “peace” will just be abuse and cruelty and not actual peace, calm or friendship in any way
7:05 As a young wife, I had to learn to allow my husband to defend and protect me. I held him back and took so much crap for so long. The second I released his leash, he actually made my life SO much better.
@@BasedSockHead007 A relative who's always run over me moved in with us. The relative did what they do... and ran roughshod over me some more. I was always trying to be respectful and not be rude. When I told him that I had enough, but I didn't know how to end it, he took a day off work, packed them up, and drove them to the airport! lol
I’d say I’m an edgy person but even I would NEVER dream to joke like that in front of them (im all in for dark humor, but there’s a difference between the thought of it opposed to it ACTUALLY happening, as long as they’re in on the joke), AND 20 Yrs OLD??? that’s not being a dumb kid, that’s just being stupid and cruel.
The story with the dead sibling. Not only is the sis and entitled A-hole, but you can understand why she's that way by how the rest of her family is enabling her by not calling her out or seeing how wrong what she did was. What the sister did was not only rude and wrong, but malicious and cruel.
The sister not only offended the wedding couple, but imagine how the fiancée's parents must feel. They lost a child and for someone to make a joke of it? Well, we're in Alex Jones territory. The sister needs to face the parents of a dead child and apologize. She needs to take HER parents with her to face the parents of a dead child. I wonder what the parents' reaction would be toward grieving parents, because that kind of grief would never heal.
@@charmingjinx9379 - sadly I think that'll be wishful thinking on our part. If the parents even had a modicum of decency and integrity they would have already approached the fiancé and apologised for their daughter's behavior while offering comfort and support. The fact that they're making excuses for her speaks volumes of their lack of character.
If someone did that at my wedding with skeleton and put something like a father of the bride shirt on it I’d be behind ticked! As I have lost my dad and I can’t imagine what losing one of my siblings feels like.
Sister's a classic sociopath. The family has probably been dealing with similar antics her whole life ("she likes to be edgy"!) and since they learned early on they couldn't stop her, they've decided to just be ok with it. I'm worried about what her next "joke" will be...
As someone who’s lost a sibling, that is NOT FUNNY! If someone did that to me, saying it was my dead brother, I’d be pissed. But if my mom saw that, guaranteed she would burst into tears. And if you made my mom burst into tears, well let’s just say, you would become the next skeleton.
The skeleton story really got to me. My sister died unexpectedly a few years ago and while I love dark humor and dead family jokes (half my family is dead including my parents and I’m only 30) this was in such poor taste I actually teared up. I can’t imagine being the fiancé in the situation.
My dad died a couple years ago and he had a fucked up sense of humor that I still think of fondly from time to time, but yeah if someone brought me a pile of ashes and declared it was for the "father daughter dance" I'd be seriously pissed, I could do that as a joke (though I wouldn't put the guests through that kind of discomfort) but the only ones allowed to joke about my dead dad are me and my sisters.
I love some dark humor, don't get me wrong. My husband and I joke about my miscarriages a lot because it helps me cope with them even after two years. But you have to know your audience as well.. Know the time and the place for such a joke.. Not the right auidence and even if it was, THIS WAS NOT THE TIME NOR THE PLACE. WEDDINGS ARE SO EMOTIONAL AND CERTAINLY A TIME WHEN PEOPLE MOURN THEIR DECEASED LOVED ONES ALL OVER AGAIN
100% agree. Had the bride done it, then okay it might have been funny but for the grooms sister to pull that is just gross and SO uncalled for. We can joke about dead family members but other people trying to make the jokes is just uncomfy and often disrespectful.
It's one thing if the person with the dead family were to make a joke like this(bride setting up the skeleton), but it is another entirely for someone else to do it.
Simple rule with dead jokes : if you're the one who lost someone, you can joke about it all you want, if you're not, don't risk it and just shush. I think this is the minimum.
One of my nephews is a professional photographer. He does a lot of weddings. His standard policy is to only take photographs that the Bride and Groom have requested. If anyone other than the bride or groom starts asking for 'family pictures' or if another couple asks to have 'their photo' taken, he hands them his card and suggests they book him for a photo shoot. They never contact him. He told me about one wedding reception where a couple was planning to get engaged. He was taking candid photos of guests when the woman ran up to him insisting he come over to their table because she was about to be proposed to. He said no, he was here to shoot wedding guests, not an engagement. She totally flipped out and started screaming at him. He told the groom what was happening, and the not-yet-engaged woman was escorted out of the venue. Funny thing was, her almost-fiancee stayed. I wish I could've been there.
This is interesting. When we got married I wanted the photographer to take some couple/family pictures of the guests. They are happy to get nice pictures and I love to use them in the guest book next to each persons well wishes.
My husband's older brother died tragically when my husband was a teenager. If any friend or family member even HINTED at a joke like that, we would be attending the comedian's funeral before my wedding.
When I was a kid, the First Holy communion day photographer that my dad hired for me was bullied by some of the other kids parents to take their pics. The photographer being kind, took their pics too. My family thought to collect money from the parents and pay the photographer later for the extra pics. But the parents refused to pay up and wanted the pics for free. So we never gave them the photos. Just discarded the lot!!
Good on your parents. If it was a photographer the church hired, then they're fair game. However, YOUR FAMILY hired him/her. If I was the photographer, I'd very politely say, "No, this family hired me to take photos of their child, so I need to do my job taking photos of him/her."
My daughter and I were discussing the last one, and she suggested that the bride should go through the engagement folder and pick out all the worst photos - bad expressions, eyes closed etc - and present those to the engaged couple. I'm a little scared of my daughter now. :D
Better yet, make them pay for it and then just send them one unedited, badly timed photo where the expressions are off 😂 "oh sorry, that's the only one. Anyway nice knowing you, bye"
The last story has an update! Thank you for the huge response. Your insight really helped. My update isn't really exciting I'm afraid. When I wrote the original post, I was at the end of my rope and worked up all at the same time. But I stepped back and listened to your ideas. Althought it was tempting to photoshop hidden objects and hum... body parts on her pictures, we headed towards the civil path. So nothing dramatic, sorry. I talked with my photographer to see if she wanted to sell them the pictures. The way she sees it, they are my pictures to do whatever I want with since I paid for them. So my husband and I decided to leak a few of our pictures on social media and wait. It didn't take 2 days that she was asking about her pictures. I met with her and we talked a lot. Long story short, deep down, she knew I would be angry about the proposal, the announcement and the photoshoot, but her immediate wants blurred her judgement and after that she was just gasping for air trying to manage everything without losing me as a friend, but she admitted that she did it all wrong. She seemed genuine in her regrets. And it was a bit comforting to know she was also struggling with this on her side (im a terrible person). She said she wished she didn't announce it at my wedding. That the whole night she was worried I would learn about it through our friends or some of my relatives sitting next to them and that id never talk to her again. And then it was all done and she didn't know how to navigate through all of it. When I confronted her the first time she felt that if she admitted her wrongs, that she'd lose me in the process so she decided it would be better to just invalidate my feelings (not how she worded it but pretty much). She didn't come clean about the pictures because she figured that would be a problem for future her. I told her that I would have preferred she were honest with me. That a lot of the hurt and betrayal I felt came from her sneaking around, and invalidating my feelings by acting innocent. This could have been delt with months ago had she just owned up to everything back then. I told her that our friendship was definitely hurt by it and that I didn't know if it would ever go back to what it was. So, yea. As far as I'm concerned, this is case closed and we're building towards a better tomorrow. ETA: I forgot the most important part! I gave her the pictures, free of charge. It was just not worth all the drama. We have common friends and money tends to make things cold. It would also not make it ok or make me feel better. And we didn't want anyone to use it against us if that makes sense. Like "Why dont you go back to being friends now, right this second, she paid for them, didn't she?" Some people have this weird idea that money erases everything.
Hello, I'm understanding that you're the OP of the last post? If so, then it's definitely nice to hear an update from you! Yes, it's not dramatic and not "content worthy" since it doesn't seem like a lot, but I'm sure it must've been a lot for you emotionally so I'm glad it went peacefully. You're not at all a terrible person, trust me. Your feelings were perfectly valid because your friend was having a photoshoot with a photographer you hired with YOUR OWN money, plus she was using your wedding as her engagement party. Even if she didn't tell everyone at the wedding, it was still not okay for her to do that. But, sigh, at the same time, I can't help understanding her feelings. I made a lot of mistakes when I was younger because I acted on my emotions, and I definitely regretted it afterward. And before, perhaps I would've tried to get away with apologizing so I wouldn't have to admit to my mistakes. So I'd be lying if I said I can't understand her feelings. But then, again, that's not to say you were mean to her. I can say you tried your hardest to be gentle while firm with her, and I appreciate that. As much as I can sympathize with her, she needs to be held responsible for her actions. There's no growth without accountability, that's something I learned the hard way on my end. Again, please don't feel bad for this. You were right for feeling betrayed and hurt by this. And from the way you handled it, I can tell it was out of love (platonic of course, just in case haha). You can love and forgive someone while feeling hurt by their actions. Honestly, I appreciate your maturity and kindness when handling this. I don't know if "we're building towards a better tomorrow" means you're giving her a chance and improving your friendship with her, or you two working on yourselves, but regardless I wish you the best. Also yeah, I agree that it's weird how people think money can erase everything. Like "come on, at least they paid for the damage." In these cases, the money is just the bare minimum to make up to someone, it doesn't erase your feelings towards what happened. Edit: I'm just now realizing that this is a copy paste of the actual OP's response 😂 Still it's nice to have an update
I think the sister situation could be resolved like this: OP tell your sister she can come to the wedding IF AND ONLY IF she apologize to the fiancee herself and also she's not to be a bridesmaid. Just a regular guest and that's the only compromise!" That puts the ball in her court and shows the family OP isn't fully banning his sister from the wedding. If she dosen't apologize then it's her own fault for not being able to attend the wedding.
Agreed, at least then she’s out of the wedding party as a consequence even if she does apologize and attend. Her parents absolutely suck though defending her, if I was OP I’d want them to apologize to me and my fiancé too tbh
No, don't do that. Sister will half-ass an apology, the whole family will be on her side (seeing how they are already on her side without an apology), and she will absolutely pull something at the wedding. Imagine how vile someone has to be to bring up a dead sister like that. (Edit: it's explicitly mentioned that she doesn't like fiancée and she showed without a doubt that she disapproves of the wedding, so why should she be there?)
I would add the apology should be formally to the bride and her parents together in front of her own family, film it. Also, yes, she forfeited her place as bridesmaid (and future houseguest). If she does pull anything at wedding boot her & any protester out. Show the film to any one who cares to know what kind of person she is.🎤
Everyone giving that narcissistic, gaslighting sister a pass on her behavior (probably for her entire life) is why she does what she does. As for the engagement photos taken at the wedding, if I was the photographer, I would have conveniently deleted them and either not told the bride or explained the situation and my actions. If the girl had asked me about them, I’d have said that the memory card was corrupted and they were unusable and therefore deleted.
If I were the photographer, I'd point blank tell the friend that she can have her photos if she pays double the rate for taking them, since she was double booked for the engagement shoot and the wedding
Yeah the photographer needs to take some blame here, like she shouldn't have even indulged the couple in more than one photo because at that point you are missing moments of the wedding you are paid to photograph. Like I would be equally as upset with the photographer for even spending time doing what equates to a mini-session on my dime.
7:44 Imagine doing something so unbelievably cruel and then your way of trying to justify it being “well at least it wasn’t an ACTUAL corpse” ?!?!?? My jaw is on the floor. Insanity. Absolute insanity.
He should slap her right across the face. Then, when she cries and moans, say "it was just a joke!!! Haha." And then holding his hand up, say "you wanna hear another one????"
I love how that last photographer just volunteered "accidents happen." She does it as a hobby, which means she doesn't have to let professionalism get in the way of righteous pettiness!
I love her photographer!!! I'm so glad they became friends after the wedding. Unless you have explicate permission from the bride and groom, DO NOT USE other peoples weddings to propose. You can do it after on your own dime outside of the wedding location.
I think the photographs are the bride's property and she can do what she wants with them. I recently got married, had photos and haha haven't really shared them because I'm too busy. But guess what? I paid for them and they are my property so I don't really care...I'll share what I want to, when I want to. Even if it was a gift, still your property - it was given to you. Gift, given? Yeah? No one else is entitled to them. And as a bride, why would you want to keep the pictures of someone else's engagement? I would be like, "sorry, I deleted them because it wasn't relevant to the wedding." Heck, i deleted some of the pictures of me cuz I didn't like them. Please please please I hope this person doesn't get her "free" engagement photos...still have yet to finish the video, lol! I don't think it's petty at all. I think it's reasonable and rationale. To keep photos of every single happening at the wedding and every single person just isn't rational, logical, reasonable? One of those words...so even if it wasn't an engagement photo I might not keep it. Now if it was the engaged couple say, dancing or eating the meal at the wedding, or the engaged couple with the newly married couple, I'd consider keeping it as a memento of having my friends at my wedding, enjoying themselves.
@@VioletMagpie Agree! Though I think I would just never post them if it were me. I won't lie-I know even when I've had casual pictures of me at weddings/events, I get a little disappointed if the people never share them. Of course its not about me! But I would always love the see a cute professional candid of me sometime. I couldn't imagine how anxious she must be when she was purposely trying to get these pictures made and she hasn't seen them yet! I bet she gets so excited every time a group of wedding photos hits instagram and she checks every single one to see if any of hers are in there. Hell, I think the most petty thing would be to upload new photos of cute guest moments every anniversary with none of them including her. Or include her, but make sure the pictures aren't of her interacting with her partner in any way. She would be obsessively checking that shit every time. Then if she gets bold and asks for them-either say you deleted it or charge her for it since she had a whole photography session on their dime.
My SIL announced her second pregnancy at my wedding. Everyone ignored her, everyone. Until the honeymoon was over. We don’t get along at all. 14 years worth
For the "edgy" sister (brat!) one, years ago a lady I worked with got engaged. She also had a bratty sister who was years younger (I think 17 at the time, my workmate was mid-20's) & a spoilt little madam as she was 'the baby.' In the lead-up to the wedding, little madam (LM) got increasing annoyed at not being the centre of attention & basically played up & was generally obnoxious. She was supposed to be a BM but every task she was given, she messed up (on purpose): she was given money to pick up her & the other BM shoes that were pre-ordered - not cheap, had had embroidery added of swans as the them of the wedding. My workmate loved swans & had some who lived on a pond in her back yard (rural I might add!) Instead of those shoes, LM bought herself a pair of Doc Martens so workmate had to shell out again to get the shoes. LM also managed to ruin her dress prior to the wedding because she hated it (perfectly reasonable dress that could have been worn again outside a wedding - not a huge frou-frou meringue! so Mummy & Daddy bought her a new dress she liked - not the right colour or style for the wedding) She basically threw tantrums at every opportunity & workmate finally put her foot down & said that one more incident & she was OUT of the wedding. Cue the rehearsal dinner......to "make amends" LM brought in a huge, wrapped box on a dolly for the bride. Bride opens it to find.....the dead body of a swan - complete with blood from where it had been shot......You can imagine the commotion. My workmate was devastated & upset (NATURALLY!) & left the venue after yelling at LM & disinviting from the wedding entirely. Mummy & Daddy started calling her, saying LM "was 'sorry' & it was just a 'joke' & it wasn't a swan from her pond...etc. You have to forgive her & let her be BM...she's young blah blah blah" Workmate stood firm & parents then REFUSED TO COME TO HER WEDDING in solidarity with LM!!!! Bride was upset but stood firm, wedding went off without a hitch (we were worried LM might turn up & sabotage it so other workmates stood watch outside the venue just in case). Bride was still upset (of course!) & we were angry her own family ruined her wedding. After she got back from honeymoon she posted pictures of the wedding on fb only to have LM comment that it was a shame Bride HAD DISINVITED HER WHOLE FAMILY BECAUSE SHE HATED HER OWN SISTER BECAUSE SHE (LM) WAS "PRETTIER" & DIDN"T WANT TO BE OUTSHONE!!!! Cue sh!tstorm from other family members & friends who didn't know the background, basically trashing the Bride. I didn't have fb in those days (it was in the days of "poking" being a thing so a while ago!) Cue my petty ar$e posting the entire story (no holds barred as to who was the b!tch in my story!!) as an op ed in our local paper (like a pre-curser to AITA lol) with just enough details that those who knew bride's family realised who it was & managed to turn the tide of approbation from the bride to the LM & her parents where it belonged.....Bride was sort of horrified but did squeeze my hand in silent almost-thanks while we never mentioned it again. I heard parents apologised for not coming later but still indulged LM - she later get a suspended sentence & licence for crashing her parent's car while driving drunk & injuring her boyfriend. She was lucky it was suspended because she talked back at the Judge & yelled it wasn't like she killed anyone & NEEDED to drive to get around - even called him a w@nker I heard! I think it's easier to stand up for other people than myself though lol
Goodness, that sister sounds like a total psycho 😱 Run run run run and fast! But I also feel a bit sorry, with parenting like that is it any wonder that girl turned out so bad 😑
@@Gaia_Seraphina not any more. They became abusive institutions. We have a secure children's facility but it is mainly for violent offences - even our adult criminals rarely go to prison unless they kill someone. The idea was to be "humane" & encourage people to live law-abiding lives by showing leniency but sadly for most it just encourages them to carry on because there are no consequences. Even prison is better than the living conditions most have on the outside - all expenses paid: accomodation, meals, utilities, TV in their room, Playstations, X=Box, etc.
Skeleton story: She lucky, cause the way my friends and family setup…. She wouldn’t have made it out of that door unscathed.🫣 My side would’ve DRAGGED HER. She would’ve been scared to come to the wedding. 😬 He would’ve had a skeleton for a sister after 🥲😩😂
None of my siblings have passed away but if someone had done that to my best friend the prankster would be going home with a few extra "bones" shoved in various orifices.
With the sister's skeleton prank... I would tell her that she can TOTALLY come to the wedding, but in the spirit of fun pranks, at some point in the coming weeks, I would pull a prank JUST as HARMLESS as hers :)
@@marybean2231 Because I've just came from that video: 'Harmlessly forget to include her in a tightly packed sitting chart', same going for paid for food. -_- But honestly, this would've made me want to brain her with a blunt hard edged object
"I hadn't forgiven her like i thought I had.." That's because she's still being sneaky and trying to get her way on your dime. I would not only delete that folder, but I would hold a bonfire and burn every photo (as well as that bridge) dancing naked under the full moon.
I wouldn't give her the photos and I will wait and try to get pregnant at her wedding then make a speach or announcement there, pay them with the same coin and make sure everyone knows why
@@yriel2 I'd say if it was to only a few people, and especially if they are people who you don't see very much in person, it would be okay (I wouldn't get upset if that happened at my wedding). As well, if it wasn't made to be a big to-do - like you quietly tell a few people sitting at a table or standing off to the side (something like that). But if it would be an announcement to everyone, as in it would be a major thing and likely the first time others would be hearing about it, that's a no-go.
Like the second story, I have also been told to “get over it” and had family members blame me for not hacking the actions of a bully sister. They even lied to me, claiming she wouldn’t be at a dinner event when they she would be, so I would be forced to deal with her. She avoided any real responsibility for her actions. Everyone treated her like the victim because she was so upset I was trying to cut her out of my life. Any forgiveness may keep the peace for a moment, but the pain of having your feelings dismissed lingers - especially if that family member continues to be toxic.
I am 49 and my older siblings pretty much tortured me from early elementary school. As we got older my brother turned into a violent alcoholic drug addict and my sister a violent drunk . When I was 18 and 6-7 months pregnant with my first baby I had to hide in the bathroom for a couple hours because my drunk brother stood outside calling me every name in the book and told me to come out so that he could beat my ass! My whole life with them consisted of nightmare situations like that from both siblings. Now that we are OLDER and my sister is clean and my brother is “clean” I’m suppose to forget all they did. My brother moved to live with my mom because she still has faith in him and now I’m the one that is in the wrong for cutting them both out of my life. Forgiveness isn’t something I can stomach especially since they don’t acknowledge what they did even to the extent my sister told me that I was going to burn in hell because I wouldn’t forget everything. So that nasty sister would no longer be apart of my world and not feel bad whatsoever!!
I really hope you managed to cut her in the end. My toxic alcoholic brother has waged a war of hate and physical and mental since my dad died last year, and I can't get a restraining order because he lives next door. It's a horrible situation
@@lissieloveskitties Thank you and I hope that it works out for you! It was scary until I took my power back from my siblings and chose myself and my kids over trying to keep those relationships going. Much ❤️
As a photographer I would keep the photos, create a separate client gallery and contract and send her an invoice before releasing them. That was so messed up that she did it to her friend and the photographer. That’s a separate session. I have one family that is very loyal and hires me for everything. She had discussed with me a few weeks before her baby shower about her brother inlaw proposing to her future sister inlaw. I could have easily made a decent payday and charged for two events but this family is amazing and hires me a few times a year so I gave it as a gift.
1st situation: There would’ve been an assault in my parent’s house if I was the BIL. 2nd situation: Even if the Bride to be wanted him to make peace, I still wouldn’t if I was him. He was disrespected along with his fiancée. The fact that his sister thought that this would be an acceptable joke to pull on his future wife shows that the sister blatantly has no respect for his fiancée and has no respect for him either if she was willing to create strife in his life like that for no reason. She would be ostracized until further notice if it was my sister and if the rest of my family took her side in the situation, they would be joining her. He’s absolutely not the bad guy. That type of behavior does not go unchecked. 3rd situation: Burn the photos. That was trifling behavior.
My sister was murdered at the age of 16 by her abusive boyfriend. If insane sister in law pulled that stunt at my bachelorette party, she would have received a very violent reaction from me and no doubt, my friends. She would instantly suffer the ramifications of her super shitty action & wouldn't even bother to try and go to the wedding.
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if the sister was hoping for that type of reaction. That way she would spin the narrative and gaslight people into thinking the fiance was crazy and can't take a joke.
So sorry that happened to your sister. And yeah, I don’t think the rest of the family will put it aside so easily. I feel bad for the bride because she probably just wants their families to get along, but I can’t imagine her other family members are going to just forgive and forget!
I'm so sorry, and know first hand how losing a loved one to murder is a pain that you carry with you always. My father was murdered in 1996. If anyone joked about his death, they would catch my fists and any blunt, heavy object in the vicinity. Pretty sure my family members would jump right in to help me rearrange the "pranksters" face too.
I would have deleted the pics, told the 'friend' i did so, then told her "shouldn't have gotten engaged at my wedding or taken engagement pics with my wedding photographer; Again, AT MY WEDDING". But maybe im just too willing to be mean 🤣🤷
I'm thinking ask the photographer for exactly one of their "engagement" pictures, one where they are blinking or doing something weird with their hands or face, not looking, and just slide that into the batch of photos you show them. And that's the only photo they get. One photo that is unflattering garbage.
Before I even finish watching, here’s my thoughts for the final story. I would tell the photographer to send a bill for her rate for engagement photos to her friend. If friend pays the photographer for the photos, then sure, they become their property. If she comes crying to you for the photos without paying for them, tell her she MUST pay for them otherwise they get deleted since they are your property,
The first story: I would have called the police after i dealt with them. The Audacity of some people, this is the most entitled Second story: Oh my stars, everyone on this channel can agree, you are not in the wrong. But that sister can do worse Third story: CHARGE HER!! CHARGE HER!!
As someone who refrained from vaccination due to severe allergic reactions, I still have enough common sense and respect to be upfront about my choice before an event such as a wedding and to mask up out of courtesy if I am to attend a family event or special occasion. I have respectfully and willingly not attended a family gathering if persons were not comfortable and I respect their choice. Video chat and photos exist... so does the postal service so I can send a gift and card. It isn't ideal, but it is the honorable thing to do. That bridesmaid and her boyfriend were extremely rude and out of line.
The thing is if you're allergic to the ingredients of a vaccine that's a valid reason not to have it. That's why everyone else that can should. Heard immunity is help people like yourself. Most people are just idiots or aholes & think "their rights" supercede public health & the rights of others. Those are the people that should be forced to get it.
If I'm ever told basically to f*** off in my own house by someone that doesn't live there, they're leaving through a somewhat smaller opening than they entered. And by that I mean they're going out the window.
I wouldn't say that not getting a vaccine because of allergies is the same as being anti-vax, the problem with anti-vax is that they put the people who can't get vaccinated at a greater risk, I wouldn't even say that you could choose to have the vaccine, cause allergies isn't something to mess with. Also, you're really doing the best thing you could by telling people that you didn't get the vaccine and acting accordingly to how they feel confortable interacting with someone without the vaccine.
Weddings are crazy! After I proposed to my wife, she went on a TV show called "Say Yes to the Dress". My wife had her mom, aunts and sister attended the taping with her. My sister in law was a MONSTER at the taping. Apparently she became a "Super Sajin Bridesmaidzilla". She told the recording crew this was more about her OPINION than what my wifes DECISION on which dress she liked. It was such a disaster, they cancelled the rest of the recording. Then at my wedding my sister in law was supposed to be a bridesmaid. When my wife called to confirm that all her bridesmaids had their dress and that thing fitted accordingly. My sister in law lied and said she did. The week of the wedding we find out she lied just to cause problems b/c she felt SHE should have been the Matron of Honor.Then NOT ONLY did she STILL show up at the wedding as an attendee. She was telling everyone she just got engaged to her BF *(Someone shes only been dating for MAYBE 6 weeks!) in hopes to steal some of the lime light. Then to top everything off, SHE NEVER GOT MARRIED and just lied! I've been to several weddings where the brides female friends or relatives have done things to disrupt or sabotage the wedding. However, I never believed I would be in such a wedding!
As an Indian this is so new to me😢 no bride deserves such a sister. Here we also have jealous kind of people, but because people will shame such behaviour, they don’t attempt such things. We have sisters of groom as well as bride as the “maids” you can say. Where the brides parents are suppose to treat them well, greet them, give gift ( very simple one). Teh sisters have responsibility to make sure every ritual is done elegantly. It’s mostly the sibling or first cousin or the childhood bestie. I am going to be maid for the groom and we cannot imagine ruining their day. We cannot absolutely. Mostly it’s a tussle between his maids and her maids, but it’s healthy tussle. We Dance it off. Lol
I got a story (this took place 4 nearly 5 years ago): So my babysitter turned one of my closest friend’s Michael (fake name) and his gf of 15 years Kathryn (fake name) officially tied the knot. They both REALLY wanted this day to be about them but didn’t want to seem pushy (they weren’t a-holes about it). The ceremony was great, went off without a hitch, get to the reception and around half way through dinner brides sister stands up and says she has an announcement (normally a bad thing) she then announces that she pregnant. Dead. Silence. I can see the bride’s twin looks ready to choke her, the bride clearly wants to do worse and the rest of the night feels like it goes on for eternity. Fast forward to last week, same sister is getting married next month and wouldn’t you know Mike and Kathy texted me that their expecting. I’m not stupid, I put two and two together, the only thing I said is “I want a video” Edit: to those who want an update, wedding's on 19th September, I'll update on the 20th, don't worry UPDATE! Sorry for updating a day late I basically pulled an all-nighter for the Queen’s funeral and for the night prior. Ok so I got a rundown on things before they sent the video and apparently it wasn’t just my friends they peeved off. Starting off the drama, Father flat out refused to walk her down the aisle due to several reasons (reasons weren’t specified but they must have royally screwed-up because he’s a very patient person), Mother almost didn’t come due to same reasons. Due to it being the Queen’s funeral 26 out of her 50 guests had pulled out including the maid of honour. At first she tried to talk to the bride saying she could do the ceremony but she would be taking off before the reception (ok fair enough) and the bride blowup at her herring many insults, to be quite frank I’m surprised the dumb brat is even alive because the moh is originally from Glasgow (the take no crap city in Scotland, quite a rough area). The moh told her in not so many words to get f’ed and wished her nothing but the worst then left an hour before the ceremony, after hearing this interaction at least 10 more left (anyone keeping count that’s now 14 of her guests remaining). So the ceremony finally starts and Kathy said it was kinda funny looking around seeing the brides 14 guests then on the other side (the grooms friends and family) the grooms 50 guest, the ceremony went as smooth as a shite show could go then everyone piles in to the reception, oh boy. Kathy said she wanted to wait until at least half way through because her darling sister did that to her, so after watching the bride and groom argue for most of that time the time finally came to make the big announcement, which she did in pretty much the same way as what was done at her wedding. *START OF VIDEO* Kat stood up and said it, “you c-word! how dare you ruin my special day!” (like she hadn’t already done that herself) “do you have any idea who much I spent on this wedding!” *enter THE GROOM’S PARENTS* GF “are you kidding, are you actually f’ing kidding!” GM “how dense are you? you didn’t pay a cent for anything, geez no wonder why your parents didn’t fork out anything for you”. This exchange of insults continues for at least another 2 minutes and the video ends with Kathy saying to Mike “time to go”, they got home in time to see the end of the funeral. Sorry if this wasn’t as satisfying as you were hoping but for revenge a few years in the making it was satisfying for them, just to end this on a nice note I was just told the baby is a boy! Also @Paige Kooiker @Erin Piggott I hope you both had great birthdays! 🎂
Charlotte, hairdresser here. You consistently style your hair really well, I adore it when you have it wavy/curly as the light reflects beautifully off your natural colours. Thank your parents for the great DNA as you lucked out with your multi toned titian/auburn. It's absolutely stunning today! 😁🔥🔥🔥
For the squatters, I would have called both - The bride so she knows how her supposed friend treats her family, and the police due to it being trespassing at that point. They need to understand their actions have consequences.
Thought I was going to have laughters, instead I was feeling infuriated listening to the stories. I really am NOT the bigger person, in all three scenarios I would chose war. Lovely to see you Charlotte! 💜
I can't see any benefit for allowing any of them going unchecked! Especially the skeleton sister! She & the parents Must Have altered the narrative to have Anyone side with her! (Everyone who witnessed this Disgraceful Behavior should have beaten her to a pulp!)
Yep! Called the police on the first story, would have publicly shamed that sister on all social media, and would have deleted those photos from the earth. Bad people get away with being vile because we think we need to keep the peace. Well, those idiots don't care about my peace and the buck stops here babe; you woke up and chose violence and I will match that energy and then some.
The last story actually reminds me of a wedding I went to years ago. I come from a pretty small village, and as bride and groom were both kinda active community members there were many people invited that were heads to several institutions such as firefighters, diverse associations, marching band, etc. One of the sons of those "big guys", who thinks to be the Almighty himself, announced big and loudly his engagement to his girlfriend right after the bride and groom had their first dance to open the floor, making it impossible for anyone not to hear it. Back then I found it greatly disrespectful, but less than half an year later Karma hit back: As mentioned before, it's a small village where everyone knows everybody and news and gossip spread like wildfire. Turns out the already called "wedding of the year" was cancelled as both the bride and groom caught each other cheating on one another.
Charlotte reading: This is a long and crazy story that happened over the course of 3 days so brace yourselves Me: that's what i'm hear for: the long and the crazy
The family of the person whose sister brought the skeleton reminds me of my own family so much. I understand this person's pain and clearly they're not the ah, their family is.
If anyone's interested, there is an update for the last one. OP and her husband shared a few photos on Facebook, the friend asked about her photos within a couple of days, they met for coffee, they talked a lot, the friend apologised and said she had a lot of regrets about the engagement and photos and announcing and knew OP would probably be mad, OP admitted to being more hurt by the dishonestly and invalidation than by the engagement and photos themselves, friendship is a little strained but they're working on it, and she also gave her friend the photos for free because anything else wouldn't be worth the drama, especially considering that they are both part of a larger group of friends. OP had previoudly asked the photographer if she wanted to sell them to the friend, but the photographer said that they were OP's photos to do with as she pleased.
Have the photographer contact the couple and offer prices for the engagement photos if they wanted them. Even pop them online with really awful watermarks all over them if they wanted to see them ahead of time. The work was done already. Ahole thing to get engaged at someone elses wedding but whats done is done. If they want to remember their engagement now they should be able to.........for a fair price to the photographer
@@nabojsa Take advantage of the friend being an ahole by making it cost them financially. I think ruining the photos or not giving them is more of a slap on the photographer who did the work. Depending on their age they might not have learned how to behave in social situations too and know this is not appropriate to do at someones wedding.
"Um, can I borrow your wedding for the afternoon so I can throw a free engagement party with free food and photos for me and hubby to be?"....yeah I don't think that would work.
There seems to be more to the second story . I think the sister was only projecting the groom's family feelings about the bride . Nobody with an ounce of common sense or humanity will dress a skeleton as the bride's late sister unless it was specifically calculated to hurt the bride . Sucks to be the groom though .
I'm all for the family saying, " We all make mistakes and sister apologizes and we move forward". But to not see that she did anything wrong ? She did wrong with her joke and then she did wrong again by not apologizing for her epic blunder. Family seems waaaay screwed up for the Groom to be catching grief over all this.
yeah, I didn't think of that before. How old was the sister? a child? Then it was the rest of the family 100% but, even as a teenager, that's a horrible, cruel thing to do.
Last story: I'd give the pics back to the photographer and let her charge the 'friend' full price for the service. If the friend refuses to pay, delete...delete...delete!
"You know as someone who knows what is funny and what is not , most of the time , that's not funny" - more than a million potatoes will attest to Charlotte being funny almost all the time 😁 .
I would say - yes, I have them - there were so many that we had such a challenge as to which to keep & which to delete. . .Offer her a link to those that you kept!
My brother proposed at my wedding… in the gazebo I had just stood in while I was married. My family and friends managed to make sure I didn’t find out until after I returned from my honeymoon.
the last one: oh girl, you've been played. They used your wedding party as their engagement party, and your paid photographer as their engagement photographer! They just planned to get stuff for free. Please, ask her money for the photos, if she wants them, then cut her out.
Now that I think about it the friend that got engaged at the wedding, what I would do with the photos is this. I would wait for her wedding day, I wouldn't buy anything off the registry, I will take all those pictures, print it, put it in an envelope and hand it to her on her wedding day and THAT would be her wedding gift from me 😉😁😊
lol I wouldn't be that nice. I'd find out what the price for the engagement photoshoot is, take a picture of the pictures, print that, make a check with the price and would make that her wedding gift haha
For the last story, i think it would be WILD if the bride decided to be petty and get pregnant at the friend engagement/wedding party and make a gender reveal plus maternity shoots there :>
Last story, I can’t fault her for the engagement at the wedding. That was on the man. He shouldn’t have asked. BUT the secret photo shoot. Id ask the photographer how much it would’ve cost. I’d make her pay for them. Give the photographer what she’s owed.
Woman like this would want audience for proposal. Wedding has good venue, everyone assembled, good food, romantic music and photography all on someone else's dime. Guy gets told when to propose.
Yeah, and getting engaged while being surrounded by wedding stuff, she may have been caught up in happiness over being engaged. Kudos to her for not announcing it to the room, I wouldn't have told the bride because it is HER day. I would not have gotten secret photos taken, though I would have liked a picture of "just us." When the bride comes back from honeymooning I would have explained the engagement. The bride got mad at her friend because her friend's boyfriend proposed at the wedding. I would have shut my mouth about any "just us" pictures too. If I were the bride, I would be honest and say I don't appreciate the secret photos and if she wants quality engagement photos she needs to ask the photographer about any touch-up fees and such. And I would say that is the only way to be fair to the photographer who had not signed up to shoot two events.
The photographer should not even have indulged the guest with multiple photos. One candid and then walk away to do the job you were hired for. The fact that enough pics exist for it to even be charged is the fault of the photographer. My MIL tried this at my wedding, to pull the photographer aside for whatever she wanted, and my photographer straight up said MIL wasn't the boss and walked away every time to keep capturing what I wanted to have pictures of because that was the job.
For the friend who did the secret engagement photo shoot, I would calculate the cost the bride paid per shot that she kept, and then give the friend the total amount of her own photos plus gratuity and make her pay for them. That or I would tell the photographer to email her and invoice her and not share the photos until she's paid in full.
I was going to say delete the photos but I must say I like the idea of hiding them until the "friend" confesses her crime then make her pay thru the nose for them!!
15:30 for the last story, another option would be to try to draw it out for AS LONG AS YOU CAN, ideally til they themselves get married. Then give them the photos as they’re wedding gift. Thus saving you money on their gift as you’d already paid. And if they don’t like that, that’s when you can point all these details out to them on the day effectively making them feel as bad as they made you feel
As someone who has cut their adopted parents out of their life, Bride is amazing for standing up for her fiance. Don't give in "just for peace." They don't NEED to be at your wedding if they are going to disrespect your Fiancee's sister.
my bff got engaged at my wedding rehearsal. I was happy for her and announced it. I didn't care that it was "my" day. I was so happy for her. We happily shared the day.
For the photographer story, I'd put her on blast! Post the photos and say: "hey friend, I thought you might want your engagement photos that you asked my photographer to take at our wedding reception. They look so great!! Just don't forget to contact photographer so you can pay for them! Can't wait to see these on your engagement announcement! So happy for you!" All very passive aggressive. Also I'd have the photographer put huge watermarks all over the photo. Then they can't really have the photos, but you're "congratulating" them and letting everyone know. People will see how entitled she was being, and if the friend complains, they could just really say, "what? You got photos taken at my wedding, I thought you'd want them. I figured you were planning on hiring the photographer"
Good. This is everything. And the photographer should charge double for the engagement photos, because she was double booked to apparently do an engagement shoot while already working a wedding
This makes me happy to be an introvert and not have friends. God the drama is to much I already have a sister that’s toxic whom I’m not going to invite to my wedding when it happens.
Last story: the bride actually ended up giving the engagement photos to her friend in the end. Apparently her friend realized that she was wrong to do that at her wedding and apologized. Her friend just got caught up in the excitement of getting engaged and made a poor choice. Me: would have held them hostage a while longer, but ultimately memories are precious so even though I usually go petty first, I could not be that cruel.
Depending on where/when this was happening during the pandemic, they may have faced fines and such from the police for having them in their home, even if they were taking all kinds of precautions. The fact that the wedding even happened means this could be unlikely, but the fear could still have been there for FIL and MIL.
About the engagement photos, I'd let my friend "sit on nails" for as long as she would, until she exposed herself... Then I'd confront her and, depending on her response I'd decide what to do with them. For an honest apology, and even an offer to pay some of the cost, I'd let her have them, without taking money. Any other response, the keys are shift+delete
14:17. She could charge her for the photographer's time, then charge the guest a location fee for her engagement party, plus for the photos themselves (post production fees for colour correction, balance etc). That would be fair, considering her friend, in very poor form and taste, used her and then kept the fact hidden.
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As someone who's lost their older sister... If my one of my fiancee's sisters pulled that at my bachelorette... He would let me have at her... I would be so sad, angry and hurt I would beat the shit out of her... Idc. I still can't listen to multiple songs without bursting into tears over her... Nvm if she was my little sister.... That must be so much more painful... Like an older sibling helps raise kids when I was growing up... Just... Idk what else to say, my heart goes out to that bride...
The sister who brought out a skeleton knew exactly what she was doing, it wasn’t a “joke”. It was done in malice. He’s right to cut ties with her, and anyone in the family who’s standing up for her behavior. That’s beyond repulsive. He sounds like a lovely caring person, and I’m glad he has his fiancés back. I hope they have a very happy life together. 💛
The bride’s friends at the bachelorette party should have taken the sister outside for a little “chat”
@@joshuaverkerk4532 Skeleton sister would be reinvited, but then spiked with nuclear laxatives the night before and the whole of the wedding. Family gets to be there, she suffers and isn't around. Then never speak again
It was only funny to the sister, but it was definitely intentional and highly disrespectful. Cutting ties was the right choice.
The sister's action was in extremely poor taste, to put it mildly.
That would be one of those situations where my family would never hear from me again. Like, move houses and change your phone number and don't tell anyone who thought that "prank" was funny where I am. They already know why, so I wouldn't even need to explain it.
I hate when phrases like "keep the peace" or "be the bigger person" are used *towards* someone who's been wronged. To me, in that situation, I just hear those phrases as "take someone's crap and be happy about it".
Agreed! I’m definitely a pushover & it’s soooo upsetting to hear this the few times I can stick up for myself! What about them figuring out how to be a DECENT human & “be the bigger person” 🤬
Omg yes! I think I'd be more likely to forgive the wrong doer if the person asking "me" to be the "bigger person " chides the wrong doer first, upto my satisfaction 😤
Exactly, it's rewarding sh*tty behaviour because the other is expected to be the "better person". That's a hell no. If you want to be an entitled douchenozzle you will be treated accordingly. I refuse to be the bigger person if wronged, know your battles and choose them wisely 🙂
Agreed. I never want to be harsh to anyone saying "be the bigger person" as I think most of the time they mean well, but it's not a good argument to not calling out shitty behaviour.
Be the bigger person is such a condescending phrase. \on an entirely different matter if you smash someones kneecaps with a hammer, do it from the side so they will never heal...just saying.
Brother of skeleton girl... YOU ARE AMAZING!! The devotion to defending your fiancee and not letting your sister hurt her without consequence is just phenomenal. You were 100% in the right!
We keep talking about red flags, but the guy breaking up with his family over the skeleton "joke" is the greenest of green flags. Kudos to him for standing up for his partner.
very true and *thirst alert* you're very handsome
Yeah, but when the partner says she wants the standoff to end, it starts being about HIM and not whatever embarrassment she might have felt. There's a time to hang on and a time to let go, and real adults know when to let go.
@@Serai3 but if you feel like some body is being taken advantaged of or being disrespected wouldn’t you stand up for them.
@@Idkmybffaj Yes, but if my partner said, "Okay, cool it, I'm fine now", I'd back down. Because my partner's feelings are supposed to the point to all of this, NOT my ego.
Nah its the principle of what you are willing to allow. You teach people how to treat you. I would never let it slide, I dont tolerate disrespect on any level towards the ones I love.
My friend was a photographer and was actually in a similar situation to the last story. She went around taking fun pictures of the guests when the Bridal party was away and was suddenly blindsided with an engagement.
The engaged party tried to get my friend to send them their engagement photos directly. She said that she was under contract and could not do that. She then told the bride what happened.
The bride apparently was a petty person, so she hatched an evil plan with the photographer. When she released the photos, she omitted the engagement photos... which ended up forcing the engaged party to ask directly about them. The bride shrugged and said she paid the photographer to shoot her wedding, so she only got pictures of her wedding. She didn't recall having an engagement as part of her wedding.
So they had to grudgingly call my friend who gave them her rate sheet, her last minute booking fees, a rush charge, and like a dozen other bullshit charges. They threatened to leave a bad review. She threatened to delete the engagement pictures forever.
The bride in the end got a nice large discount since my friend ended up getting paid double for 1 night's work.
Brilliant conniving! Well done!
This is the perfect response!!
Beautiful
I've never been able to see any benefits come from "being the bigger person" For the person being bigger. In fact it makes people wonder if there's more than the surface slight (like revenge) Just a lot of "I should have said/done" sleepless nights for the bigger person!
Good!!! I hate people that think they can get away with this bs!!!
We were told we could never have children. At my best friend's wedding I was 13wks and told no one. It's her day. She would have been super excited for me but I just wanted to be super excited for her along with everyone else celebrating her day.... My news could wait.
You’re a good person for that
I was 14 weeks pregnant at my brother's wedding, and as it wasn't easy to hide, my husband went ahead and told my brother and now-SIL privately a couple days before. They were going swimming with us, so it's not like I could hide it anyways. 😅 Then, after my brother and SIL left the wedding for their honeymoon, we told the rest of my immediate family while we cleaned up wedding stuff, lol. It worked out really well, and everyone was so happy for everyone else. It was a good day.
In regards to the one where the girl used a fake skeleton as a prank, someone once said, "When a person tells you that you hurt them, you don't get to decide that you didn't."
Amen!!!
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I am so borrowing this. I hope you don't have copyright to it. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@akankshapatwari4167 no worries. I borrowed it from someone else lol
@@akankshapatwari4167 It was Louis CK
For the last story, I would've pretended the photos didn't exist unless the bridesmaid finally brought it up, forced her to admit and explain why she did what she did and then charge her for the photos. I'd then give the money to the photographer so she'd be compensated for her extra work.
This one's the perfect pettiness 💅 with a hint of goodness and full of justice
My thoughts EXACTLY!
🤪😃perfect!
Yeah I think so too. Why should she get "free" photos on your dime? Make her pay the going rate for engagement photos. If she doesn't, delete them.
Brilliant. As a photographer, this would make my day in this situation lol.
I love the age of ultron quote, it fits so well
"I believe your mistaking 'peace' with 'quiet'"
My sister was the “it was just a joke” kind growing up. But the difference was, my parents never let her get away with stuff like that, much less DEFEND HER! Now, as an adult, she is one of the most caring, empathetic, generous people I know. It’s almost like holding people accountable for their actions teaches them to be BETTER PEOPLE!!
I’m so glad your sister wised up and became a better person! Your parents seem like awesome people!!!
My parents were too scared to reprimand and punish my sister as she would go into a fit of rage (even when very young) and turn black and blue with anger. Now, as a 36 yr old woman, she's still very very entitled and talks to anyone without thinking twice and my parents who are really old (almost 75 yrs) still pick up behind her and are scared of her. Sometimes, all it takes are two tight slaps and time out.
@@alkarandam I am sorry. I still remember what my father advised me when my daughter was born
He said if you have to say yes to something your daughter asks say yes immediately. But if you have to say NO stick to it till eternity. Never ever give in as that sends a message that a tantrum or obstinacy can win a child anything. I royally ignored my 2 yr old daughter's 10 minute tantrum at home. She never ever threw one at home. She tried to embarrass me in public once with a magnificent meltdown. It included stomping and rolling on the floor. I let her. I ignored her completely and apologized to my friends. They wore ear plugs and said don't worry and use this as a teaching moment . No tantrum ever again.
I have a brother who capitalized on the “I’m only kidding” proclamation since he was just a child. Needless to say, it only got worse as we got older, with my parents basically telling me to suck it up. I guess he was only kidding when he stole money from me, from my business, stole my furniture, my jewelry, and I could go on. He got away with it all. Then he and my other brother, a lawyer, attempted to steal over $10,000 from an award I’d won in Small Claims Court. Wait. Not over yet. While I was hospitalized, my brother, the lawyer shows up to check in on me, but hands me an envelope that contains end of life documents, living will, etc. didn’t dawn on me til years later that I was being set up once again. Funny, no?
Follow your gut. If you’re a pushover, be a former pushover. I honestly cannot believe how I was treated. It wasn’t funny ever.
@@bobbarth801 I'm really sorry that you have arseholes for brothers. What possessed the lawyer one to attempt to steal your money, when it would have resulted in his disbarment???
The whole “let it go” with the sister situation is bizarre. First…I’m questioning how anyone could think the skeleton would ever be funny, but if the groom’s family down to the aunts and uncles are boycotting the wedding I am also questioning that there is something very wrong with the entire family dynamic.
Parents probably spun the story something else for the extended family.
Something like "brat made a innocent joke/prank and OP banned us from wedding!" Instead explaining what "joke" was.
Or sister is the golden child, told them an edited version ("everbody was laughing" etc.), and of course they bought it and then sold it on.
yeah, i got the feeling that he was the black sheep of the family
What I'm questioning is how the groom grew up in that family and managed to become a decent person with common sense
She doesn't even like his fiancee. That was made clear. He needs to go no contact. Seems his family is toxic and I bet she's the golden child
The Bride should ask the photographer how much she would charge for engagement pictures, and then charge her "friend" that much for the envelope (or don't release them with her wedding album, and refer her "friend" to the photographer who can then charge her for her engagement photographs) (and then only maybe include one picture from the bunch that was least like anengagement picture and include it in her with her wedding album).
I would have had the photographer keep them and then tell her to let the friend know what she charges for the photos. The photographer took them. She shouldn’t let them go until she gets fairly compensated. That’s just so creepy of her bridesmaid. I could kind of understand the first part because clearly the boyfriend was stupid enough to propose at the table at the wedding but maybe the bridesmaid didn’t know and had little control over it. But the whole picture thing after the fact was just straight up gross. Idk why people think it’s okay to do any of those things on someone else’s wedding day. I would want my own special time and date and I wouldn’t want to make anyone else feel overshadowed.
@@dramaminedream22 LOVE this! Perfect response!
That’s what I was thinking initially but I’m petty they would be gone and she would be unfriended
That's what I was thinking. It's justified since it would be a reimbursement for something she already paid for and upcharge for interfering in the wedding with her engagement.
That's what I'M sayin. The photographer was skimped too and stating a fee also hints that you know. If the friend flips over it, well, I would respond that under contract, the photos ARE your property.
That last one. I would've shown my friend all the pics except hers, feigned ignorance, let her dig her own grave. Then given the photographer permission to SELL the friend her pictures, spilt the money. She not only went behind bride's back, but expected the bride to foot the bill for her engagement pics just because it was technically the same shoot!!
The bride did pay for the bill though. It sounds like the bride paid for all the photos when she said they are her property. So the bride now has them. Either she would pay me for them or I'd delete them.
Yup😆😆😆😆
Agreed, the friend should pay the photographer. She can still get her engagement photos and the photographer gets compensated for all this BS.
Right! And the bride essentially paid for the setting and decorations of this photo shoot too!
That's brilliant! That's exactly what should happen.
My eyes were trying to pop out of my head at the dead sister skeleton “joke”! SHE WON’T EVEN APOLOGIZE!! She’s probably the baby of the family, and her parents would defend her even if she straight up murdered someone. Also, I’d contact those other family members refusing to not come, I get the feeling the parents told a different story to the extended family on what really happened. What a horrible human being, who need enemies with a sister like that?
Seriously. If i was that OP i would tell family that i will invite sister again when she apologises to the fianceé, the fianceé's family and THE DEAD SISTER.
What would she do at the wedding? Bring in the skeleton for family photos? Ugh.
The groom's family also seem to not know what words mean. Their definition of "bigger person" sounds more like "doormat" and called the sister "edgy" instead of something more appropriate like "a@#%$^" or "horrible human being"
Those people siding with the brat sister either don't know the whole story or are as bad as her so not having them at the wedding wouldn't be a great loss.
@@felinemoonchild I was thinking something like that as in she better be glad she didn't get beat up! That was horrible beyond words. Sorry for your loss.
For the sister and skeleton story…if you have to give into this then it’s not worth to “keep the peace” that “peace” doesn’t exist, it’s just an excuse that horrible people use to not deal with the consequences of their own actions and that “peace” will just be abuse and cruelty and not actual peace, calm or friendship in any way
7:05 As a young wife, I had to learn to allow my husband to defend and protect me. I held him back and took so much crap for so long. The second I released his leash, he actually made my life SO much better.
Bless your husband for protecting you! And I'm glad you don't have to face things alone. Hope you two are happy together!
W for your husband girl
Mine did the same! My aunt was my landlord and tried making me clean the previous tenants mess. My bf said we’ll do it if she pays us 😂
@@BasedSockHead007 A relative who's always run over me moved in with us. The relative did what they do... and ran roughshod over me some more. I was always trying to be respectful and not be rude.
When I told him that I had enough, but I didn't know how to end it, he took a day off work, packed them up, and drove them to the airport! lol
@@Kasoha4 VERY happy! We're grandparents now! (reeeeing with joy)
“I would nurture the resulting grudge as if it were my first born”. That is so metal 🤟🏼
I’d say I’m an edgy person but even I would NEVER dream to joke like that in front of them (im all in for dark humor, but there’s a difference between the thought of it opposed to it ACTUALLY happening, as long as they’re in on the joke), AND 20 Yrs OLD??? that’s not being a dumb kid, that’s just being stupid and cruel.
The story with the dead sibling. Not only is the sis and entitled A-hole, but you can understand why she's that way by how the rest of her family is enabling her by not calling her out or seeing how wrong what she did was. What the sister did was not only rude and wrong, but malicious and cruel.
The sister not only offended the wedding couple, but imagine how the fiancée's parents must feel. They lost a child and for someone to make a joke of it? Well, we're in Alex Jones territory. The sister needs to face the parents of a dead child and apologize. She needs to take HER parents with her to face the parents of a dead child. I wonder what the parents' reaction would be toward grieving parents, because that kind of grief would never heal.
@@charmingjinx9379 - sadly I think that'll be wishful thinking on our part. If the parents even had a modicum of decency and integrity they would have already approached the fiancé and apologised for their daughter's behavior while offering comfort and support. The fact that they're making excuses for her speaks volumes of their lack of character.
If someone did that at my wedding with skeleton and put something like a father of the bride shirt on it I’d be behind ticked! As I have lost my dad and I can’t imagine what losing one of my siblings feels like.
Sister's a classic sociopath. The family has probably been dealing with similar antics her whole life ("she likes to be edgy"!) and since they learned early on they couldn't stop her, they've decided to just be ok with it. I'm worried about what her next "joke" will be...
As someone who’s lost a sibling, that is NOT FUNNY! If someone did that to me, saying it was my dead brother, I’d be pissed. But if my mom saw that, guaranteed she would burst into tears. And if you made my mom burst into tears, well let’s just say, you would become the next skeleton.
The skeleton story really got to me. My sister died unexpectedly a few years ago and while I love dark humor and dead family jokes (half my family is dead including my parents and I’m only 30) this was in such poor taste I actually teared up. I can’t imagine being the fiancé in the situation.
My dad died a couple years ago and he had a fucked up sense of humor that I still think of fondly from time to time, but yeah if someone brought me a pile of ashes and declared it was for the "father daughter dance" I'd be seriously pissed, I could do that as a joke (though I wouldn't put the guests through that kind of discomfort) but the only ones allowed to joke about my dead dad are me and my sisters.
I love some dark humor, don't get me wrong. My husband and I joke about my miscarriages a lot because it helps me cope with them even after two years.
But you have to know your audience as well.. Know the time and the place for such a joke..
Not the right auidence and even if it was, THIS WAS NOT THE TIME NOR THE PLACE.
WEDDINGS ARE SO EMOTIONAL AND CERTAINLY A TIME WHEN PEOPLE MOURN THEIR DECEASED LOVED ONES ALL OVER AGAIN
100% agree. Had the bride done it, then okay it might have been funny but for the grooms sister to pull that is just gross and SO uncalled for. We can joke about dead family members but other people trying to make the jokes is just uncomfy and often disrespectful.
It's one thing if the person with the dead family were to make a joke like this(bride setting up the skeleton), but it is another entirely for someone else to do it.
Simple rule with dead jokes : if you're the one who lost someone, you can joke about it all you want, if you're not, don't risk it and just shush. I think this is the minimum.
"It's not like it was dead sister's actual skeleton"
Yes, because that makes everything completely fine.
One of my nephews is a professional photographer. He does a lot of weddings. His standard policy is to only take photographs that the Bride and Groom have requested. If anyone other than the bride or groom starts asking for 'family pictures' or if another couple asks to have 'their photo' taken, he hands them his card and suggests they book him for a photo shoot. They never contact him. He told me about one wedding reception where a couple was planning to get engaged. He was taking candid photos of guests when the woman ran up to him insisting he come over to their table because she was about to be proposed to. He said no, he was here to shoot wedding guests, not an engagement. She totally flipped out and started screaming at him. He told the groom what was happening, and the not-yet-engaged woman was escorted out of the venue. Funny thing was, her almost-fiancee stayed. I wish I could've been there.
Photographer doesn't equate to slave.
he probably realized that he was going to be engaged to a wifezilla so he stayed at the party instead lol
Props to your nephew, that is very honorable to do!
Your nephew is amazing
This is interesting. When we got married I wanted the photographer to take some couple/family pictures of the guests. They are happy to get nice pictures and I love to use them in the guest book next to each persons well wishes.
My husband's older brother died tragically when my husband was a teenager. If any friend or family member even HINTED at a joke like that, we would be attending the comedian's funeral before my wedding.
Agreed. After the first story when she said she had worse ones I thought "no way, you can't have." But somehow...
The comedian eh! I’m sorry I laughed at that but yea. Since they think it’s funny! Gaddamn!
@@mage1439 you know every time i click on one of these i think no possible way it could be worse then the last... yet here we are !!! 😵
Oh great, so what am I supposed to do with this skeleton now ?
Agreed, My brother passed away when I was only 11. If someone tried that with me, they’ll become the next skeleton. JS
Exactly what I thought. Imagine what could she do at the wedding. Since she got away with the last prank, anything goes?
When I was a kid, the First Holy communion day photographer that my dad hired for me was bullied by some of the other kids parents to take their pics. The photographer being kind, took their pics too. My family thought to collect money from the parents and pay the photographer later for the extra pics. But the parents refused to pay up and wanted the pics for free. So we never gave them the photos. Just discarded the lot!!
good family lol
Good on your parents. If it was a photographer the church hired, then they're fair game. However, YOUR FAMILY hired him/her. If I was the photographer, I'd very politely say, "No, this family hired me to take photos of their child, so I need to do my job taking photos of him/her."
My daughter and I were discussing the last one, and she suggested that the bride should go through the engagement folder and pick out all the worst photos - bad expressions, eyes closed etc - and present those to the engaged couple. I'm a little scared of my daughter now. :D
Better yet, make them pay for it and then just send them one unedited, badly timed photo where the expressions are off 😂
"oh sorry, that's the only one. Anyway nice knowing you, bye"
LOL!
Nah, your a daughter is smart!
Lol I love that last part you said. That would be exactly my plan.
Your comment is adorable 🥰
The last story has an update!
Thank you for the huge response. Your insight really helped. My update isn't really exciting I'm afraid. When I wrote the original post, I was at the end of my rope and worked up all at the same time. But I stepped back and listened to your ideas. Althought it was tempting to photoshop hidden objects and hum... body parts on her pictures, we headed towards the civil path. So nothing dramatic, sorry.
I talked with my photographer to see if she wanted to sell them the pictures. The way she sees it, they are my pictures to do whatever I want with since I paid for them.
So my husband and I decided to leak a few of our pictures on social media and wait. It didn't take 2 days that she was asking about her pictures.
I met with her and we talked a lot. Long story short, deep down, she knew I would be angry about the proposal, the announcement and the photoshoot, but her immediate wants blurred her judgement and after that she was just gasping for air trying to manage everything without losing me as a friend, but she admitted that she did it all wrong.
She seemed genuine in her regrets. And it was a bit comforting to know she was also struggling with this on her side (im a terrible person). She said she wished she didn't announce it at my wedding. That the whole night she was worried I would learn about it through our friends or some of my relatives sitting next to them and that id never talk to her again. And then it was all done and she didn't know how to navigate through all of it.
When I confronted her the first time she felt that if she admitted her wrongs, that she'd lose me in the process so she decided it would be better to just invalidate my feelings (not how she worded it but pretty much). She didn't come clean about the pictures because she figured that would be a problem for future her.
I told her that I would have preferred she were honest with me. That a lot of the hurt and betrayal I felt came from her sneaking around, and invalidating my feelings by acting innocent. This could have been delt with months ago had she just owned up to everything back then. I told her that our friendship was definitely hurt by it and that I didn't know if it would ever go back to what it was.
So, yea. As far as I'm concerned, this is case closed and we're building towards a better tomorrow.
ETA: I forgot the most important part! I gave her the pictures, free of charge. It was just not worth all the drama. We have common friends and money tends to make things cold. It would also not make it ok or make me feel better. And we didn't want anyone to use it against us if that makes sense. Like "Why dont you go back to being friends now, right this second, she paid for them, didn't she?" Some people have this weird idea that money erases everything.
Hello, I'm understanding that you're the OP of the last post? If so, then it's definitely nice to hear an update from you! Yes, it's not dramatic and not "content worthy" since it doesn't seem like a lot, but I'm sure it must've been a lot for you emotionally so I'm glad it went peacefully.
You're not at all a terrible person, trust me. Your feelings were perfectly valid because your friend was having a photoshoot with a photographer you hired with YOUR OWN money, plus she was using your wedding as her engagement party. Even if she didn't tell everyone at the wedding, it was still not okay for her to do that.
But, sigh, at the same time, I can't help understanding her feelings. I made a lot of mistakes when I was younger because I acted on my emotions, and I definitely regretted it afterward. And before, perhaps I would've tried to get away with apologizing so I wouldn't have to admit to my mistakes. So I'd be lying if I said I can't understand her feelings. But then, again, that's not to say you were mean to her. I can say you tried your hardest to be gentle while firm with her, and I appreciate that. As much as I can sympathize with her, she needs to be held responsible for her actions. There's no growth without accountability, that's something I learned the hard way on my end.
Again, please don't feel bad for this. You were right for feeling betrayed and hurt by this. And from the way you handled it, I can tell it was out of love (platonic of course, just in case haha). You can love and forgive someone while feeling hurt by their actions. Honestly, I appreciate your maturity and kindness when handling this. I don't know if "we're building towards a better tomorrow" means you're giving her a chance and improving your friendship with her, or you two working on yourselves, but regardless I wish you the best.
Also yeah, I agree that it's weird how people think money can erase everything. Like "come on, at least they paid for the damage." In these cases, the money is just the bare minimum to make up to someone, it doesn't erase your feelings towards what happened.
Edit: I'm just now realizing that this is a copy paste of the actual OP's response 😂 Still it's nice to have an update
@CharlotteDobre
Manipulative people have a way of coming back into your life
thanks for the update
I think the sister situation could be resolved like this: OP tell your sister she can come to the wedding IF AND ONLY IF she apologize to the fiancee herself and also she's not to be a bridesmaid. Just a regular guest and that's the only compromise!" That puts the ball in her court and shows the family OP isn't fully banning his sister from the wedding. If she dosen't apologize then it's her own fault for not being able to attend the wedding.
Agreed, at least then she’s out of the wedding party as a consequence even if she does apologize and attend. Her parents absolutely suck though defending her, if I was OP I’d want them to apologize to me and my fiancé too tbh
Came here to say this exactly!
No, don't do that. Sister will half-ass an apology, the whole family will be on her side (seeing how they are already on her side without an apology), and she will absolutely pull something at the wedding. Imagine how vile someone has to be to bring up a dead sister like that.
(Edit: it's explicitly mentioned that she doesn't like fiancée and she showed without a doubt that she disapproves of the wedding, so why should she be there?)
@@nabojsa Like they would hold her to it or have any reaction other than to again say "it was just a joke, relax."
I would add the apology should be formally to the bride and her parents together in front of her own family, film it. Also, yes, she forfeited her place as bridesmaid (and future houseguest). If she does pull anything at wedding boot her & any protester out. Show the film to any one who cares to know what kind of person she is.🎤
Everyone giving that narcissistic, gaslighting sister a pass on her behavior (probably for her entire life) is why she does what she does.
As for the engagement photos taken at the wedding, if I was the photographer, I would have conveniently deleted them and either not told the bride or explained the situation and my actions. If the girl had asked me about them, I’d have said that the memory card was corrupted and they were unusable and therefore deleted.
Charge a bad friend fee and name it after the bridesmaid. Double what ever is normally charged.
If I were the photographer, I'd point blank tell the friend that she can have her photos if she pays double the rate for taking them, since she was double booked for the engagement shoot and the wedding
Yeah the photographer needs to take some blame here, like she shouldn't have even indulged the couple in more than one photo because at that point you are missing moments of the wedding you are paid to photograph. Like I would be equally as upset with the photographer for even spending time doing what equates to a mini-session on my dime.
7:44 Imagine doing something so unbelievably cruel and then your way of trying to justify it being “well at least it wasn’t an ACTUAL corpse” ?!?!?? My jaw is on the floor. Insanity. Absolute insanity.
"It's just a joke" is the most hateful, passive-aggressive thing ever.
Aka I wanted to hurt you but not let you say anything about it
If the targets aren't laughing, it wasn't a joke.
Pranks are never funny, cause the target of the prank is the joke not the one laughing.
@@SinNeighbor or "I wanted to be an ahole without being called out on it"
He should slap her right across the face. Then, when she cries and moans, say "it was just a joke!!! Haha." And then holding his hand up, say "you wanna hear another one????"
I love how that last photographer just volunteered "accidents happen." She does it as a hobby, which means she doesn't have to let professionalism get in the way of righteous pettiness!
I love her photographer!!! I'm so glad they became friends after the wedding. Unless you have explicate permission from the bride and groom, DO NOT USE other peoples weddings to propose. You can do it after on your own dime outside of the wedding location.
I think the photographs are the bride's property and she can do what she wants with them. I recently got married, had photos and haha haven't really shared them because I'm too busy. But guess what? I paid for them and they are my property so I don't really care...I'll share what I want to, when I want to. Even if it was a gift, still your property - it was given to you. Gift, given? Yeah? No one else is entitled to them. And as a bride, why would you want to keep the pictures of someone else's engagement? I would be like, "sorry, I deleted them because it wasn't relevant to the wedding." Heck, i deleted some of the pictures of me cuz I didn't like them. Please please please I hope this person doesn't get her "free" engagement photos...still have yet to finish the video, lol! I don't think it's petty at all. I think it's reasonable and rationale. To keep photos of every single happening at the wedding and every single person just isn't rational, logical, reasonable? One of those words...so even if it wasn't an engagement photo I might not keep it. Now if it was the engaged couple say, dancing or eating the meal at the wedding, or the engaged couple with the newly married couple, I'd consider keeping it as a memento of having my friends at my wedding, enjoying themselves.
hahaha finished watching the video - glad everyone decided she was NTA and suggested great ways to handle it!
@@VioletMagpie Agree! Though I think I would just never post them if it were me. I won't lie-I know even when I've had casual pictures of me at weddings/events, I get a little disappointed if the people never share them. Of course its not about me! But I would always love the see a cute professional candid of me sometime. I couldn't imagine how anxious she must be when she was purposely trying to get these pictures made and she hasn't seen them yet! I bet she gets so excited every time a group of wedding photos hits instagram and she checks every single one to see if any of hers are in there. Hell, I think the most petty thing would be to upload new photos of cute guest moments every anniversary with none of them including her. Or include her, but make sure the pictures aren't of her interacting with her partner in any way. She would be obsessively checking that shit every time. Then if she gets bold and asks for them-either say you deleted it or charge her for it since she had a whole photography session on their dime.
The last story not only propose on HER FRIEND’s WEDDING. They also used her photographer(friend’s money) to shoot their engagement? Burn it 🔥🔥🔥
My SIL announced her second pregnancy at my wedding. Everyone ignored her, everyone. Until the honeymoon was over. We don’t get along at all. 14 years worth
Definitely charge the friend to get her engagement photos.
And announce your pregnancy at her wedding. Whether you’re pregnant or not.
😭😭😭 that's the level of petty i aspire to be. I wheezed so hard at this comment 😭💀🔫
This is the Petty Answer we love.
You sick freak. I LOVE IT!
For the "edgy" sister (brat!) one, years ago a lady I worked with got engaged. She also had a bratty sister who was years younger (I think 17 at the time, my workmate was mid-20's) & a spoilt little madam as she was 'the baby.'
In the lead-up to the wedding, little madam (LM) got increasing annoyed at not being the centre of attention & basically played up & was generally obnoxious.
She was supposed to be a BM but every task she was given, she messed up (on purpose): she was given money to pick up her & the other BM shoes that were pre-ordered - not cheap, had had embroidery added of swans as the them of the wedding. My workmate loved swans & had some who lived on a pond in her back yard (rural I might add!) Instead of those shoes, LM bought herself a pair of Doc Martens so workmate had to shell out again to get the shoes. LM also managed to ruin her dress prior to the wedding because she hated it (perfectly reasonable dress that could have been worn again outside a wedding - not a huge frou-frou meringue! so Mummy & Daddy bought her a new dress she liked - not the right colour or style for the wedding) She basically threw tantrums at every opportunity & workmate finally put her foot down & said that one more incident & she was OUT of the wedding.
Cue the rehearsal dinner......to "make amends" LM brought in a huge, wrapped box on a dolly for the bride. Bride opens it to find.....the dead body of a swan - complete with blood from where it had been shot......You can imagine the commotion. My workmate was devastated & upset (NATURALLY!) & left the venue after yelling at LM & disinviting from the wedding entirely.
Mummy & Daddy started calling her, saying LM "was 'sorry' & it was just a 'joke' & it wasn't a swan from her pond...etc. You have to forgive her & let her be BM...she's young blah blah blah" Workmate stood firm & parents then REFUSED TO COME TO HER WEDDING in solidarity with LM!!!! Bride was upset but stood firm, wedding went off without a hitch (we were worried LM might turn up & sabotage it so other workmates stood watch outside the venue just in case). Bride was still upset (of course!) & we were angry her own family ruined her wedding.
After she got back from honeymoon she posted pictures of the wedding on fb only to have LM comment that it was a shame Bride HAD DISINVITED HER WHOLE FAMILY BECAUSE SHE HATED HER OWN SISTER BECAUSE SHE (LM) WAS "PRETTIER" & DIDN"T WANT TO BE OUTSHONE!!!! Cue sh!tstorm from other family members & friends who didn't know the background, basically trashing the Bride. I didn't have fb in those days (it was in the days of "poking" being a thing so a while ago!)
Cue my petty ar$e posting the entire story (no holds barred as to who was the b!tch in my story!!) as an op ed in our local paper (like a pre-curser to AITA lol) with just enough details that those who knew bride's family realised who it was & managed to turn the tide of approbation from the bride to the LM & her parents where it belonged.....Bride was sort of horrified but did squeeze my hand in silent almost-thanks while we never mentioned it again. I heard parents apologised for not coming later but still indulged LM - she later get a suspended sentence & licence for crashing her parent's car while driving drunk & injuring her boyfriend. She was lucky it was suspended because she talked back at the Judge & yelled it wasn't like she killed anyone & NEEDED to drive to get around - even called him a w@nker I heard!
I think it's easier to stand up for other people than myself though lol
Little madam? More Little sh!t I'd say
Goodness, that sister sounds like a total psycho 😱 Run run run run and fast! But I also feel a bit sorry, with parenting like that is it any wonder that girl turned out so bad 😑
Are there no juvenile prisons where you live?
In Germany there are.
That story was a wild ride from start to finish. I need Charlotte to react to it!
@@Gaia_Seraphina not any more. They became abusive institutions. We have a secure children's facility but it is mainly for violent offences - even our adult criminals rarely go to prison unless they kill someone.
The idea was to be "humane" & encourage people to live law-abiding lives by showing leniency but sadly for most it just encourages them to carry on because there are no consequences. Even prison is better than the living conditions most have on the outside - all expenses paid: accomodation, meals, utilities, TV in their room, Playstations, X=Box, etc.
Skeleton story: She lucky, cause the way my friends and family setup…. She wouldn’t have made it out of that door unscathed.🫣 My side would’ve DRAGGED HER. She would’ve been scared to come to the wedding. 😬 He would’ve had a skeleton for a sister after 🥲😩😂
Ò 8th⁸
All this!! There is no way in God's green Earth that stuff would have gone unpunished.
X 2, but I would also difame her in the worst way possible, even in her college.
None of my siblings have passed away but if someone had done that to my best friend the prankster would be going home with a few extra "bones" shoved in various orifices.
THAT PART!!! I would have beat her ass!
With the sister's skeleton prank... I would tell her that she can TOTALLY come to the wedding, but in the spirit of fun pranks, at some point in the coming weeks, I would pull a prank JUST as HARMLESS as hers :)
Harmless security at the door prank,
Harmless wrong date wrong time invite prank, etc...
@@marybean2231 Because I've just came from that video: 'Harmlessly forget to include her in a tightly packed sitting chart', same going for paid for food. -_- But honestly, this would've made me want to brain her with a blunt hard edged object
"I hadn't forgiven her like i thought I had.."
That's because she's still being sneaky and trying to get her way on your dime. I would not only delete that folder, but I would hold a bonfire and burn every photo (as well as that bridge) dancing naked under the full moon.
"Naked under the full moon" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I told my daughter about it and she said fine, watch me hold that grudge and steal your thunder at your funeral. Lol coooollllldddd
I wouldn't give her the photos and I will wait and try to get pregnant at her wedding then make a speach or announcement there, pay them with the same coin and make sure everyone knows why
I usually don't support it but how about a pregnancy announcement or something at her wedding?
@@yriel2 I'd say if it was to only a few people, and especially if they are people who you don't see very much in person, it would be okay (I wouldn't get upset if that happened at my wedding). As well, if it wasn't made to be a big to-do - like you quietly tell a few people sitting at a table or standing off to the side (something like that). But if it would be an announcement to everyone, as in it would be a major thing and likely the first time others would be hearing about it, that's a no-go.
Like the second story, I have also been told to “get over it” and had family members blame me for not hacking the actions of a bully sister. They even lied to me, claiming she wouldn’t be at a dinner event when they she would be, so I would be forced to deal with her. She avoided any real responsibility for her actions. Everyone treated her like the victim because she was so upset I was trying to cut her out of my life. Any forgiveness may keep the peace for a moment, but the pain of having your feelings dismissed lingers - especially if that family member continues to be toxic.
I feel for you. I have a horrible sister and life has been so much better since I cut her off of my life. I hope you can find your peace one day too
I am 49 and my older siblings pretty much tortured me from early elementary school. As we got older my brother turned into a violent alcoholic drug addict and my sister a violent drunk . When I was 18 and 6-7 months pregnant with my first baby I had to hide in the bathroom for a couple hours because my drunk brother stood outside calling me every name in the book and told me to come out so that he could beat my ass! My whole life with them consisted of nightmare situations like that from both siblings.
Now that we are OLDER and my sister is clean and my brother is “clean” I’m suppose to forget all they did. My brother moved to live with my mom because she still has faith in him and now I’m the one that is in the wrong for cutting them both out of my life. Forgiveness isn’t something I can stomach especially since they don’t acknowledge what they did even to the extent my sister told me that I was going to burn in hell because I wouldn’t forget everything. So that nasty sister would no longer be apart of my world and not feel bad whatsoever!!
I really hope you managed to cut her in the end. My toxic alcoholic brother has waged a war of hate and physical and mental since my dad died last year, and I can't get a restraining order because he lives next door. It's a horrible situation
@@trinagoodsell5234 sending you love, am in a similar situation with my alcoholic abusive brother.
@@lissieloveskitties Thank you and I hope that it works out for you!
It was scary until I took my power back from my siblings and chose myself and my kids over trying to keep those relationships going.
Much ❤️
As a photographer I would keep the photos, create a separate client gallery and contract and send her an invoice before releasing them. That was so messed up that she did it to her friend and the photographer. That’s a separate session. I have one family that is very loyal and hires me for everything. She had discussed with me a few weeks before her baby shower about her brother inlaw proposing to her future sister inlaw. I could have easily made a decent payday and charged for two events but this family is amazing and hires me a few times a year so I gave it as a gift.
1st situation: There would’ve been an assault in my parent’s house if I was the BIL.
2nd situation: Even if the Bride to be wanted him to make peace, I still wouldn’t if I was him. He was disrespected along with his fiancée. The fact that his sister thought that this would be an acceptable joke to pull on his future wife shows that the sister blatantly has no respect for his fiancée and has no respect for him either if she was willing to create strife in his life like that for no reason. She would be ostracized until further notice if it was my sister and if the rest of my family took her side in the situation, they would be joining her. He’s absolutely not the bad guy. That type of behavior does not go unchecked.
3rd situation: Burn the photos. That was trifling behavior.
My sister was murdered at the age of 16 by her abusive boyfriend. If insane sister in law pulled that stunt at my bachelorette party, she would have received a very violent reaction from me and no doubt, my friends.
She would instantly suffer the ramifications of her super shitty action & wouldn't even bother to try and go to the wedding.
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if the sister was hoping for that type of reaction. That way she would spin the narrative and gaslight people into thinking the fiance was crazy and can't take a joke.
I'm sorry for your loss Hugs 🫂
So sorry that happened to your sister. And yeah, I don’t think the rest of the family will put it aside so easily. I feel bad for the bride because she probably just wants their families to get along, but I can’t imagine her other family members are going to just forgive and forget!
I'm so sorry, and know first hand how losing a loved one to murder is a pain that you carry with you always. My father was murdered in 1996. If anyone joked about his death, they would catch my fists and any blunt, heavy object in the vicinity. Pretty sure my family members would jump right in to help me rearrange the "pranksters" face too.
I know if this was my daughter she would've been disowned immediately.
I would have deleted the pics, told the 'friend' i did so, then told her "shouldn't have gotten engaged at my wedding or taken engagement pics with my wedding photographer; Again, AT MY WEDDING". But maybe im just too willing to be mean 🤣🤷
I'm thinking ask the photographer for exactly one of their "engagement" pictures, one where they are blinking or doing something weird with their hands or face, not looking, and just slide that into the batch of photos you show them. And that's the only photo they get. One photo that is unflattering garbage.
Before I even finish watching, here’s my thoughts for the final story. I would tell the photographer to send a bill for her rate for engagement photos to her friend. If friend pays the photographer for the photos, then sure, they become their property. If she comes crying to you for the photos without paying for them, tell her she MUST pay for them otherwise they get deleted since they are your property,
The first story:
I would have called the police after i dealt with them. The Audacity of some people, this is the most entitled
Second story:
Oh my stars, everyone on this channel can agree, you are not in the wrong. But that sister can do worse
Third story:
CHARGE HER!! CHARGE HER!!
The bride should invoice the “friend “ that got engaged at her wedding. She should have to pay for her own photos.
As someone who refrained from vaccination due to severe allergic reactions, I still have enough common sense and respect to be upfront about my choice before an event such as a wedding and to mask up out of courtesy if I am to attend a family event or special occasion. I have respectfully and willingly not attended a family gathering if persons were not comfortable and I respect their choice. Video chat and photos exist... so does the postal service so I can send a gift and card. It isn't ideal, but it is the honorable thing to do. That bridesmaid and her boyfriend were extremely rude and out of line.
You are the reason the rest of us should get vaccinated. For herd immunization to protect you. Your reasoning is at least legitimate.
@ D A : your CHOICE was made for you by medical reasons. Anti-vaxxer is a CHOICE with NO medical reasons. Don't lump yourself in with those ppl
The thing is if you're allergic to the ingredients of a vaccine that's a valid reason not to have it. That's why everyone else that can should. Heard immunity is help people like yourself. Most people are just idiots or aholes & think "their rights" supercede public health & the rights of others. Those are the people that should be forced to get it.
If I'm ever told basically to f*** off in my own house by someone that doesn't live there, they're leaving through a somewhat smaller opening than they entered. And by that I mean they're going out the window.
I wouldn't say that not getting a vaccine because of allergies is the same as being anti-vax, the problem with anti-vax is that they put the people who can't get vaccinated at a greater risk, I wouldn't even say that you could choose to have the vaccine, cause allergies isn't something to mess with.
Also, you're really doing the best thing you could by telling people that you didn't get the vaccine and acting accordingly to how they feel confortable interacting with someone without the vaccine.
Weddings are crazy! After I proposed to my wife, she went on a TV show called "Say Yes to the Dress". My wife had her mom, aunts and sister attended the taping with her. My sister in law was a MONSTER at the taping. Apparently she became a "Super Sajin Bridesmaidzilla". She told the recording crew this was more about her OPINION than what my wifes DECISION on which dress she liked. It was such a disaster, they cancelled the rest of the recording. Then at my wedding my sister in law was supposed to be a bridesmaid. When my wife called to confirm that all her bridesmaids had their dress and that thing fitted accordingly. My sister in law lied and said she did. The week of the wedding we find out she lied just to cause problems b/c she felt SHE should have been the Matron of Honor.Then NOT ONLY did she STILL show up at the wedding as an attendee. She was telling everyone she just got engaged to her BF *(Someone shes only been dating for MAYBE 6 weeks!) in hopes to steal some of the lime light. Then to top everything off, SHE NEVER GOT MARRIED and just lied! I've been to several weddings where the brides female friends or relatives have done things to disrupt or sabotage the wedding. However, I never believed I would be in such a wedding!
As an Indian this is so new to me😢 no bride deserves such a sister.
Here we also have jealous kind of people, but because people will shame such behaviour, they don’t attempt such things.
We have sisters of groom as well as bride as the “maids” you can say. Where the brides parents are suppose to treat them well, greet them, give gift ( very simple one).
Teh sisters have responsibility to make sure every ritual is done elegantly. It’s mostly the sibling or first cousin or the childhood bestie.
I am going to be maid for the groom and we cannot imagine ruining their day. We cannot absolutely. Mostly it’s a tussle between his maids and her maids, but it’s healthy tussle. We Dance it off. Lol
I would have the photographer for the last one 14:20 send a bill for the engagement photos before release to the “friend”
I got a story (this took place 4 nearly 5 years ago):
So my babysitter turned one of my closest friend’s Michael (fake name) and his gf of 15 years Kathryn (fake name) officially tied the knot. They both REALLY wanted this day to be about them but didn’t want to seem pushy (they weren’t a-holes about it). The ceremony was great, went off without a hitch, get to the reception and around half way through dinner brides sister stands up and says she has an announcement (normally a bad thing) she then announces that she pregnant. Dead. Silence. I can see the bride’s twin looks ready to choke her, the bride clearly wants to do worse and the rest of the night feels like it goes on for eternity. Fast forward to last week, same sister is getting married next month and wouldn’t you know Mike and Kathy texted me that their expecting. I’m not stupid, I put two and two together, the only thing I said is “I want a video”
Edit: to those who want an update, wedding's on 19th September, I'll update on the 20th, don't worry
UPDATE! Sorry for updating a day late I basically pulled an all-nighter for the Queen’s funeral and for the night prior. Ok so I got a rundown on things before they sent the video and apparently it wasn’t just my friends they peeved off. Starting off the drama, Father flat out refused to walk her down the aisle due to several reasons (reasons weren’t specified but they must have royally screwed-up because he’s a very patient person), Mother almost didn’t come due to same reasons. Due to it being the Queen’s funeral 26 out of her 50 guests had pulled out including the maid of honour. At first she tried to talk to the bride saying she could do the ceremony but she would be taking off before the reception (ok fair enough) and the bride blowup at her herring many insults, to be quite frank I’m surprised the dumb brat is even alive because the moh is originally from Glasgow (the take no crap city in Scotland, quite a rough area). The moh told her in not so many words to get f’ed and wished her nothing but the worst then left an hour before the ceremony, after hearing this interaction at least 10 more left (anyone keeping count that’s now 14 of her guests remaining). So the ceremony finally starts and Kathy said it was kinda funny looking around seeing the brides 14 guests then on the other side (the grooms friends and family) the grooms 50 guest, the ceremony went as smooth as a shite show could go then everyone piles in to the reception, oh boy. Kathy said she wanted to wait until at least half way through because her darling sister did that to her, so after watching the bride and groom argue for most of that time the time finally came to make the big announcement, which she did in pretty much the same way as what was done at her wedding. *START OF VIDEO* Kat stood up and said it, “you c-word! how dare you ruin my special day!” (like she hadn’t already done that herself) “do you have any idea who much I spent on this wedding!” *enter THE GROOM’S PARENTS* GF “are you kidding, are you actually f’ing kidding!” GM “how dense are you? you didn’t pay a cent for anything, geez no wonder why your parents didn’t fork out anything for you”. This exchange of insults continues for at least another 2 minutes and the video ends with Kathy saying to Mike “time to go”, they got home in time to see the end of the funeral. Sorry if this wasn’t as satisfying as you were hoping but for revenge a few years in the making it was satisfying for them, just to end this on a nice note I was just told the baby is a boy!
Also @Paige Kooiker @Erin Piggott I hope you both had great birthdays! 🎂
Yeah I'm going to need an update on this
Yup, I'll be back in about a month to check this comment😂
Yes please
Please update ok don't abandon us
I'm here for the update.
Charlotte, hairdresser here. You consistently style your hair really well, I adore it when you have it wavy/curly as the light reflects beautifully off your natural colours. Thank your parents for the great DNA as you lucked out with your multi toned titian/auburn. It's absolutely stunning today! 😁🔥🔥🔥
Charlotte's hair is absolutely gorgeous in this video btw
For the squatters, I would have called both - The bride so she knows how her supposed friend treats her family, and the police due to it being trespassing at that point. They need to understand their actions have consequences.
Thought I was going to have laughters, instead I was feeling infuriated listening to the stories. I really am NOT the bigger person, in all three scenarios I would chose war.
Lovely to see you Charlotte! 💜
Oh absolutely. I would totally rage.
Lmao, same!
I can't see any benefit for allowing any of them going unchecked! Especially the skeleton sister! She & the parents Must Have altered the narrative to have Anyone side with her! (Everyone who witnessed this Disgraceful Behavior should have beaten her to a pulp!)
Yep! Called the police on the first story, would have publicly shamed that sister on all social media, and would have deleted those photos from the earth. Bad people get away with being vile because we think we need to keep the peace. Well, those idiots don't care about my peace and the buck stops here babe; you woke up and chose violence and I will match that energy and then some.
The last story actually reminds me of a wedding I went to years ago.
I come from a pretty small village, and as bride and groom were both kinda active community members there were many people invited that were heads to several institutions such as firefighters, diverse associations, marching band, etc.
One of the sons of those "big guys", who thinks to be the Almighty himself, announced big and loudly his engagement to his girlfriend right after the bride and groom had their first dance to open the floor, making it impossible for anyone not to hear it.
Back then I found it greatly disrespectful, but less than half an year later Karma hit back:
As mentioned before, it's a small village where everyone knows everybody and news and gossip spread like wildfire.
Turns out the already called "wedding of the year" was cancelled as both the bride and groom caught each other cheating on one another.
Charlotte reading: This is a long and crazy story that happened over the course of 3 days so brace yourselves
Me: that's what i'm hear for: the long and the crazy
If a "friend" took advantage of the photographer at my wedding, I would make her pay the photographer directly for them.
DAMN!!! I normally have you playing in the background and I just looked up... YOUR HAIR LOOKS UHHHHHMAZING!!!
7:45 “It’s just a joke, bro!”, the lamest excuse for douchebaggery in the book.
For the engagement pictures I’d tell my friend that she needs to pay for them because they weren’t part of the wedding pictures
My wife and I hired a photographer to take some engagement photos and *GASP* 😲 paid him (same photog we used for the wedding)
Yes right?
You never given the keep the peace because it's just showing them that they can continue to treat you like that without any repercussions.
The family of the person whose sister brought the skeleton reminds me of my own family so much. I understand this person's pain and clearly they're not the ah, their family is.
If anyone's interested, there is an update for the last one. OP and her husband shared a few photos on Facebook, the friend asked about her photos within a couple of days, they met for coffee, they talked a lot, the friend apologised and said she had a lot of regrets about the engagement and photos and announcing and knew OP would probably be mad, OP admitted to being more hurt by the dishonestly and invalidation than by the engagement and photos themselves, friendship is a little strained but they're working on it, and she also gave her friend the photos for free because anything else wouldn't be worth the drama, especially considering that they are both part of a larger group of friends. OP had previoudly asked the photographer if she wanted to sell them to the friend, but the photographer said that they were OP's photos to do with as she pleased.
If they don't stick up for you, they never will.
Have the photographer contact the couple and offer prices for the engagement photos if they wanted them. Even pop them online with really awful watermarks all over them if they wanted to see them ahead of time. The work was done already. Ahole thing to get engaged at someone elses wedding but whats done is done. If they want to remember their engagement now they should be able to.........for a fair price to the photographer
@@nabojsa Take advantage of the friend being an ahole by making it cost them financially. I think ruining the photos or not giving them is more of a slap on the photographer who did the work. Depending on their age they might not have learned how to behave in social situations too and know this is not appropriate to do at someones wedding.
Charlotte, your videos help my depression immensely. I found you about 13 months ago. Thanks for all the laughter 💛
I hope your journey to health is going well. Have you heard Charlotte sing yet? Fantastic. 😊
Kimberley, hope you're doing well. Wish you lot of positive energy! 🤗
This all day every day! I adore her! She's a light in the darkness.
big hugs and hopes for your journey ahead
Girl same. I'm feeling down (to describe it loosely) this morning and this really does take me out of my head for a bit. :)
"Um, can I borrow your wedding for the afternoon so I can throw a free engagement party with free food and photos for me and hubby to be?"....yeah I don't think that would work.
There seems to be more to the second story . I think the sister was only projecting the groom's family feelings about the bride . Nobody with an ounce of common sense or humanity will dress a skeleton as the bride's late sister unless it was specifically calculated to hurt the bride . Sucks to be the groom though .
I'm all for the family saying, " We all make mistakes and sister apologizes and we move forward". But to not see that she did anything wrong ? She did wrong with her joke and then she did wrong again by not apologizing for her epic blunder. Family seems waaaay screwed up for the Groom to be catching grief over all this.
yeah, I didn't think of that before. How old was the sister? a child? Then it was the rest of the family 100%
but, even as a teenager, that's a horrible, cruel thing to do.
@@isaT yeah, make her wear devil horns and a tail with a shirt that says “I am an asshole” to the wedding.
I watch these as I’m my best friend’s maid of honour & these make me laugh at how crazy some people are!
10:43 That was my thought exactly! When there's no consequences, the person thinks they can keep doing those things, and it won't affect anyone else.
Last story: I'd give the pics back to the photographer and let her charge the 'friend' full price for the service. If the friend refuses to pay, delete...delete...delete!
Read those deletes in a cyberman voice 😂
"You know as someone who knows what is funny and what is not , most of the time , that's not funny" - more than a million potatoes will attest to Charlotte being funny almost all the time 😁 .
I would say - yes, I have them - there were so many that we had such a challenge as to which to keep & which to delete. . .Offer her a link to those that you kept!
My brother proposed at my wedding… in the gazebo I had just stood in while I was married. My family and friends managed to make sure I didn’t find out until after I returned from my honeymoon.
the last one: oh girl, you've been played. They used your wedding party as their engagement party, and your paid photographer as their engagement photographer! They just planned to get stuff for free. Please, ask her money for the photos, if she wants them, then cut her out.
Now that I think about it the friend that got engaged at the wedding, what I would do with the photos is this. I would wait for her wedding day, I wouldn't buy anything off the registry, I will take all those pictures, print it, put it in an envelope and hand it to her on her wedding day and THAT would be her wedding gift from me 😉😁😊
Good idea
lol I wouldn't be that nice. I'd find out what the price for the engagement photoshoot is, take a picture of the pictures, print that, make a check with the price and would make that her wedding gift haha
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love this answer too outside of deleting them
"I'm ready!" was on repeat mode continuously and lol-ing 😂
For the last story, i think it would be WILD if the bride decided to be petty and get pregnant at the friend engagement/wedding party and make a gender reveal plus maternity shoots there :>
I was thinking the same thing 😂
@@Nerd_Girl_1412 Me too!
OMG YES. THIS. She should also hold the photos hostage to make the "friend" "stay sweet" so she can get invited to the wedding and then BAM!
Or maybe fake pregnancy. The only issue is that if she isn’t pregnant then they might think she had a miss carriage and other issues could occur
There's a comment a few above yours about a similar story
Last story, I can’t fault her for the engagement at the wedding. That was on the man. He shouldn’t have asked.
BUT the secret photo shoot. Id ask the photographer how much it would’ve cost. I’d make her pay for them. Give the photographer what she’s owed.
And add a fee for the location
They could have also planned it together "let's get engaged because all friends are there"
Woman like this would want audience for proposal. Wedding has good venue, everyone assembled, good food, romantic music and photography all on someone else's dime. Guy gets told when to propose.
Yeah, and getting engaged while being surrounded by wedding stuff, she may have been caught up in happiness over being engaged. Kudos to her for not announcing it to the room, I wouldn't have told the bride because it is HER day.
I would not have gotten secret photos taken, though I would have liked a picture of "just us."
When the bride comes back from honeymooning I would have explained the engagement. The bride got mad at her friend because her friend's boyfriend proposed at the wedding. I would have shut my mouth about any "just us" pictures too.
If I were the bride, I would be honest and say I don't appreciate the secret photos and if she wants quality engagement photos she needs to ask the photographer about any touch-up fees and such. And I would say that is the only way to be fair to the photographer who had not signed up to shoot two events.
The photographer should not even have indulged the guest with multiple photos. One candid and then walk away to do the job you were hired for. The fact that enough pics exist for it to even be charged is the fault of the photographer. My MIL tried this at my wedding, to pull the photographer aside for whatever she wanted, and my photographer straight up said MIL wasn't the boss and walked away every time to keep capturing what I wanted to have pictures of because that was the job.
The sister with the skeleton “joke” would’ve gotten her shit rocked if it was me.
For that last story, revenge is oh so sweet, announce your pregnancy at HER wedding! 💕💕
I would have taken an axe to the door .. got my head through and said HERES JOHNNY!!! I'm sure they would have left voluntarily after that... 🤷🏽♀️
For the friend who did the secret engagement photo shoot, I would calculate the cost the bride paid per shot that she kept, and then give the friend the total amount of her own photos plus gratuity and make her pay for them. That or I would tell the photographer to email her and invoice her and not share the photos until she's paid in full.
I was going to say delete the photos but I must say I like the idea of hiding them until the "friend" confesses her crime then make her pay thru the nose for them!!
Like one hundred dollars for each picture. Sounds fair to me.
15:30 for the last story, another option would be to try to draw it out for AS LONG AS YOU CAN, ideally til they themselves get married. Then give them the photos as they’re wedding gift. Thus saving you money on their gift as you’d already paid. And if they don’t like that, that’s when you can point all these details out to them on the day effectively making them feel as bad as they made you feel
Dead sister story was mind blowing. That's not edgy is psychopathic.
that fiancée is a keeper, they both deserve each other 💓
As someone who has cut their adopted parents out of their life, Bride is amazing for standing up for her fiance. Don't give in "just for peace." They don't NEED to be at your wedding if they are going to disrespect your Fiancee's sister.
my bff got engaged at my wedding rehearsal. I was happy for her and announced it. I didn't care that it was "my" day. I was so happy for her. We happily shared the day.
For the photographer story, I'd put her on blast! Post the photos and say: "hey friend, I thought you might want your engagement photos that you asked my photographer to take at our wedding reception. They look so great!! Just don't forget to contact photographer so you can pay for them! Can't wait to see these on your engagement announcement! So happy for you!" All very passive aggressive.
Also I'd have the photographer put huge watermarks all over the photo. Then they can't really have the photos, but you're "congratulating" them and letting everyone know. People will see how entitled she was being, and if the friend complains, they could just really say, "what? You got photos taken at my wedding, I thought you'd want them. I figured you were planning on hiring the photographer"
Probably the last wedding she's invited to, of that friend group anyway.
Good. This is everything. And the photographer should charge double for the engagement photos, because she was double booked to apparently do an engagement shoot while already working a wedding
They should go ahead with the wedding, wheel a skeleton down the aisle, wearing a T-Shirt that says SISTER OF THE GROOM!!!
🤣
I would say someone should shit on a chair and put the sister's name tag on it. Since she's a piece of shit, not dead
This makes me happy to be an introvert and not have friends. God the drama is to much I already have a sister that’s toxic whom I’m not going to invite to my wedding when it happens.
Last story: the bride actually ended up giving the engagement photos to her friend in the end. Apparently her friend realized that she was wrong to do that at her wedding and apologized. Her friend just got caught up in the excitement of getting engaged and made a poor choice. Me: would have held them hostage a while longer, but ultimately memories are precious so even though I usually go petty first, I could not be that cruel.
Depending on where/when this was happening during the pandemic, they may have faced fines and such from the police for having them in their home, even if they were taking all kinds of precautions. The fact that the wedding even happened means this could be unlikely, but the fear could still have been there for FIL and MIL.
For the last story, I think the folder should be sent back to the photographer. If the friend still wants them, she can pay the photographer.
About the engagement photos, I'd let my friend "sit on nails" for as long as she would, until she exposed herself... Then I'd confront her and, depending on her response I'd decide what to do with them. For an honest apology, and even an offer to pay some of the cost, I'd let her have them, without taking money. Any other response, the keys are shift+delete
14:17. She could charge her for the photographer's time, then charge the guest a location fee for her engagement party, plus for the photos themselves (post production fees for colour correction, balance etc). That would be fair, considering her friend, in very poor form and taste, used her and then kept the fact hidden.
This is a good idea
I just found your channel like maybe a week or 2 ago and I absolutely love your channel and how you end your videos. The binge watching is real. Keep up the hard work!
As someone who's lost their older sister... If my one of my fiancee's sisters pulled that at my bachelorette... He would let me have at her... I would be so sad, angry and hurt I would beat the shit out of her... Idc. I still can't listen to multiple songs without bursting into tears over her... Nvm if she was my little sister.... That must be so much more painful... Like an older sibling helps raise kids when I was growing up... Just... Idk what else to say, my heart goes out to that bride...