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lol i thought those were wind traps to collect water vapor moisture from the air, not moisture from bird excrement. So can you smell those towers a mile away the ancient ethonal plants?
And then they dare to call ancient people primitive... Peeps tend to believe if the were able to time travell they would be kings with their modern knowledge... they would be the tolerated fool speeking nonsense under their nose, living on donations. Like the ones in the film Life of Brian. They knowledge were practical, based on observations and experiments. If you build such a bird house, or a wind mill or else you will understand during the process how it works. Peeps just cant imagine this today.
I believe that the reason why we no longer use alot of the old technologies is because they don't scale so well. Imagine using this method to get fertilizers to produce food for a city of millions... It's not gonna be so easy! Much like they found solutions for the problems at their time, modern solutions solve modern problems.
I really wish modern society didn't toss out traditional designs and ideas. There is so much value in passive systems like this. It's heartbreaking to lose such ancient technology.
I've seen these in picture and assumed they were grain silos. What a genius idea,thank you Iran! Instead of killing pigeons we should build them homes and honor them for providing us with natural fertilizer instead of all those chemicals.
As the pigeons are a part of urban living, I think it would be great to have to have dovecotes as part of the urban environment, providing safe roosting as well as harvesting the guano for fertilising the soil. Thanks for another great video.
In the middle East and Greece, pigeons were used for meat, that is they were farmed on such towers and provided much needed protein well as feathers and guano.
I visited a 'dove-cote' (as we call them in the UK) in Devonshire. It was empty of birds, and was simply a historic piece of architecture. So typical to hear that here, in the West, they could only be built by the 'rich,' and that the guano was used in the manufacture of gunpowder. Considering what lengths the British Empire has taken to get its hands on much-needed fertiliser for its hard-pressed agriculture, and how the price of fertiliser has gone up since the invasion of The Ukraine, you would think that some enterprising person would turn to these ancient ways in order to make a business of this 'free' resource. It's unfortunate that Bird Flu is currently prevalent in my area right now, and has been for some time, otherwise it's a very tempting business idea. Pigeons galore where I live.
I think your last sentence is the main reason it's not used a lot in Europe, nevermind bird flu - bird poo has a bunch of nasty things. Don't touch it. Same with bat guano, which we have also utilized in the past but stopped because chemical fertilizer is much more cost effective. It's likely that in the past the things they grew (melons, cucumbers) were luxury food items for the rich, which is probably why it was taxed. Honestly I don't know much about it, but if it were cost effective then it would get used in a capitalistic system like ours.
Dovecotes is how civilized people survived the dark ages in most parts of the world, not just Persia. Pigeons are mans oldest feathered friend. As they have been with people for most of recorded history..
The qenet water tunnel irrigation system was also started in countries like Iran/Persia. Tunnels were maintained by villages from mountains to plains where the water was protected from dehydration and irrigated the fields. In places like Afghanistan these tunnels were destroyed by the Taliban and other Invaders when it was conquered so it could be subjugated.
the origin of the qanats/aflaj seems not be uniquely Persian. Early examples are documented in the UAE. But there is little research in Iran. The origin may actually be there.
Very cool. I had no idea what those buildings were for. We should do that here in Canada to give pigeons a place to roost and also provide us with agricultural fertilizer.
We need to do this in the US for the purposes described as well as some deviation to produce/capture water (like in Africa). We need to get some experiments going in areas where we have had difficulty with droughts. Perhaps there is an alternative design that could be brought online to alleviate deluges of water for flood years. Building giant dams and power stations have held the function for the last decades. Research on ancient architecture for functional units such as these could benefit the world!
My first thought was it looked like a bird hotel ... lol Some people down here have Martin houses, and they have to have holes of a certain size or they won't use them. These look like a giant Martin Hotels
It's amazing what you can do with a little Ingenuity and necessity wow I knew about the ice buildings but I don't believe I ever heard about the pigeon coops
In the USA we often have gourds on poles for bird houses near houses and fields for swifts a bird that catches insects to protects crops and gets rid of pdsky mosquitos. They also leave droppings on the fields.
That would work so well in urban gardens! Easier to deal with than domestic small animals and very attractive. Our local wild dove population would greatly benefit and benefit us as well ! Everything old is new again !!😊🤩
It would be interesting to see, although I have some doubts in places like Australia, where we have a large amount of native birds who might think of them as a one stop food shop.
The perfect example of going back to the future. Ancient wisdom surely needs a great revival. As always, thank you for these educational videos. So good to see these positive changes. Blessings to you & all. Liliane
Two-thirds of the video before we are told that they are actually dovecotes. Believe it or not, they were known in the UK long before the 16th century, in fact they date back to just after the Norman invasion. The oldest complete example in the UK dates to 1326.
I have been interested in adobe forever and I have also grown to hate pigeons, but you just rocked my world!! I love to grow a garden and am always in need of nitrogen-rich material. This is awesome!!! Thank you!!
I think all modern cities with a pigeon problem should invest in pigeon towers, harvest and sell the guana for a minimal price to cover costs and maintenance of the towers. It sure beats poisoning them or feeding them the pill and it would get the pigeons off the streets. I wonder if it would work for all those homeless drug addicted who display antisocial behavior that are not only an eyesore but also a health hazard.
These are a wonderful idea! They look North African to me. But isn't it interesting that across the Middle East and India they were used symbiotically: Humans give pigeons a safe home, and pigeons give humans crop fertilizer. 100% mutually beneficial. But as soon as the idea went west, people started killing and eating the birds, and making their fertilizer into gunpowder to kill each other.
That says a lot about us westerners, and it’s not complimentary, all societies have a negative side but darn to think they used it for gunpowder, when others were using it to create food is just so depressing.
Gunpowder was a new invention and as Europe wasn’t a desert they were able to switch over. This isn’t the deep moral parable you think it is. ‘They could have had farmland but instead they decided on doom!’ People really are stupid and suggestible.
Besides with all the sectarian violence, wouldn’t you say the enlightened lands of the Middle East are doing enough killing amongst themselves at the moment?
The issue is more complicated than this: You must maintain an ecosystem which feeds the pigeons. Otherwise, they will eat much of the crops. How did they sustain them?
I am at three of six minutes now, and they're still dancing around the specific purpose of these buildings for farming. Do I really need to know the percentage of land mass that is occupied by the desert, country by country? Or could they just tell us that big parts of the countries of the region are occupied by desert and save almost a minute? And now they're starting to tell us when farming started! I hope, it's just one sentence and then we get to know what we came here for. Seriously, otherwise I'll just google it. Videos like this one are a real pain.
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Are the pure white birds pigeons or doves? We don't have pure white pigions around here.
lol i thought those were wind traps to collect water vapor moisture from the air, not moisture from bird excrement. So can you smell those towers a mile away the ancient ethonal plants?
So much knowledge hidden in ancient cultures, that we tend to underestimate in technocratic western societies. Thank you very much!
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks!
And then they dare to call ancient people primitive...
Peeps tend to believe if the were able to time travell they would be kings with their modern knowledge... they would be the tolerated fool speeking nonsense under their nose, living on donations. Like the ones in the film Life of Brian.
They knowledge were practical, based on observations and experiments. If you build such a bird house, or a wind mill or else you will understand during the process how it works. Peeps just cant imagine this today.
Speak for yourself. We have many ingenious people inventing and discovering new technologies and technics all the time.
Aww blame the west of course do forget that in the west we fight to end slavery
I am constantly amazed at how the ancient technologies provide solutions to life that we tend not to utilize.
And we believe we are smart….😂…I agree with you
Nothing new....under the sun
I believe that the reason why we no longer use alot of the old technologies is because they don't scale so well. Imagine using this method to get fertilizers to produce food for a city of millions... It's not gonna be so easy! Much like they found solutions for the problems at their time, modern solutions solve modern problems.
well said@@casalido6639
Really sir.
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And this is the very first time in my sixty odd years that I have even seen a picture of these amazing structures!
I lived in Iran from 1974-1979. The architecture was amazing. I enjoyed living there. So much history, wonderful people.
Yes, they really like their stones don't they
But they were naive about the politico-criminal organisation islam masquerading as a religion.
I really wish modern society didn't toss out traditional designs and ideas. There is so much value in passive systems like this. It's heartbreaking to lose such ancient technology.
We have not lost it we still know about it today
I've seen these in picture and assumed they were grain silos. What a genius idea,thank you Iran! Instead of killing pigeons we should build them homes and honor them for providing us with natural fertilizer instead of all those chemicals.
One thing comes to mind is what would the pigeons be eating? the crops that their guano is fertilizing perhaps more so in the west I think.
Actually they prefer food people drop. Like cheez its
They most use cow and sheep they most use for gun powder
and they eat a lot of weed seeds which is handy.
As the pigeons are a part of urban living, I think it would be great to have to have dovecotes as part of the urban environment, providing safe roosting as well as harvesting the guano for fertilising the soil. Thanks for another great video.
Tesla's best friend and lover was a pigeon.
And the birds can become sandwiches! Providing that not all birds become sandwiches at once
In the middle East and Greece, pigeons were used for meat, that is they were farmed on such towers and provided much needed protein well as feathers and guano.
I totally agree!
Please how do the pigeons get killed?
Thank you Iran for your so many inventions, discoveries and your amazingly beautiful culture. May God continue to bless you! ❤️
Brilliant story. Well done. Hope all of Africa and global south use these to get away from nasty chemicals and help farmers and food production.
Europe has dovecotes since at least the Norman age (the romans kept pigeons too) and they also used them for fertiliser in Europe.
Brilliant!!!!!
We are fortunate to have your channel to re teach us how we ought to be tuning back into these genius methods.
This is truly amazing architecture that immense benefits for man and pigeons! Thanks for sharing!
Ingenious!! I applaud people who work in harmony with nature.
I visited a 'dove-cote' (as we call them in the UK) in Devonshire. It was empty of birds, and was simply a historic piece of architecture.
So typical to hear that here, in the West, they could only be built by the 'rich,' and that the guano was used in the manufacture of gunpowder.
Considering what lengths the British Empire has taken to get its hands on much-needed fertiliser for its hard-pressed agriculture, and how the price of fertiliser has gone up since the invasion of The Ukraine, you would think that some enterprising person would turn to these ancient ways in order to make a business of this 'free' resource.
It's unfortunate that Bird Flu is currently prevalent in my area right now, and has been for some time, otherwise it's a very tempting business idea. Pigeons galore where I live.
You may be on to something
If there's anything causing ill birds, it's probably some kind of mold, pesticide, parasite, or pollutant.
I think your last sentence is the main reason it's not used a lot in Europe, nevermind bird flu - bird poo has a bunch of nasty things. Don't touch it. Same with bat guano, which we have also utilized in the past but stopped because chemical fertilizer is much more cost effective.
It's likely that in the past the things they grew (melons, cucumbers) were luxury food items for the rich, which is probably why it was taxed. Honestly I don't know much about it, but if it were cost effective then it would get used in a capitalistic system like ours.
Now, if you want to talk "free resource" have you heard about night soil?? See, that's an untapped resource of pretty insane proportion...
you mean human shit ?@@98Zai
Dovecotes is how civilized people survived the dark ages in most parts of the world, not just Persia. Pigeons are mans oldest feathered friend. As they have been with people for most of recorded history..
As was explained in the video it has been used in many places but it was first invented in Iran.
The qenet water tunnel irrigation system was also started in countries like Iran/Persia.
Tunnels were maintained by villages from mountains to plains where the water was protected from dehydration and irrigated the fields.
In places like Afghanistan these tunnels were destroyed by the Taliban and other Invaders when it was conquered so it could be subjugated.
the origin of the qanats/aflaj seems not be uniquely Persian. Early examples are documented in the UAE. But there is little research in Iran. The origin may actually be there.
Fascinating. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Brilliantly simple, have to find the freezer one. Maybe I’ll build a dovecote here to gather guano for the farm, plenty of doves.
Wonderful idea!😊
Very cool! Thank you for making this video! 👍😁
Very cool. I had no idea what those buildings were for. We should do that here in Canada to give pigeons a place to roost and also provide us with agricultural fertilizer.
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Thank you for your work and research. This information can be vital towards our future 🙏🙏💖
We need to do this in the US for the purposes described as well as some deviation to produce/capture water (like in Africa). We need to get some experiments going in areas where we have had difficulty with droughts. Perhaps there is an alternative design that could be brought online to alleviate deluges of water for flood years. Building giant dams and power stations have held the function for the last decades. Research on ancient architecture for functional units such as these could benefit the world!
Permaculture design.
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My first thought was it looked like a bird hotel ... lol
Some people down here have Martin houses, and they have to have holes of a certain size or they won't use them. These look like a giant Martin Hotels
I saw these in the Middle East and never knew what they were. Thank you for telling us all about these!
It's amazing what you can do with a little Ingenuity and necessity wow I knew about the ice buildings but I don't believe I ever heard about the pigeon coops
I remember these structures in the game Assassins Creed:Origins, which takes place in Egypt. What a very cool detail of the game.
What a wonderful and clever concept....thankyou for sharing this with the world!
Oh my goodness! I’d read about the cooling provided by these towers but never about the fertilizer!
Love the idea for this to be used in inner cities
Starts at 3:25
In the USA we often have gourds on poles for bird houses near houses and fields for swifts a bird that catches insects to protects crops and gets rid of pdsky mosquitos. They also leave droppings on the fields.
Brilliant.
fascinating...
Brilliant information! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you, what fantastic structures
That would work so well in urban gardens! Easier to deal with than domestic small animals and very attractive. Our local wild dove population would greatly benefit and benefit us as well ! Everything old is new again !!😊🤩
Yeah sure if you like your back garden rat infested.Go ahead feed the pigeons your neighbors will thank you.
My GOD! its 2023-I just find out about these NOW? How wonderful. But why never seen before?
I’m a sucker for gathering new knowledge - thanks for this straightforward explanation of the dove towers.
Thank you, I glad you enjoyed it 😊
That was simply amazing, thank you for your wonderfully informative video on this subject, signed a Sonoran Desert Dweller.
Awesome for the pigeon and for the people.. Absolutely brilliant! Keep going...☺☺
It would be interesting to see, although I have some doubts in places like Australia, where we have a large amount of native birds who might think of them as a one stop food shop.
Took too long to get to the point.
Wow, I would not have guessed its function or purpose. You learn new things every day!
Pigeons also has use as a fertilizer interestings 🤔 along with a possible food source.
Simply: that's great
This is a great channel. I've been inspired. Thanks.
The perfect example of going back to the future. Ancient wisdom surely needs a great revival.
As always, thank you for these educational videos. So good to see these positive changes.
Blessings to you & all.
Liliane
Wonderful birds! Fantastic way to fertilize the land!
FAscinating!! So Ingenious! Thank You.
You learn something new every day………. Thank you
Two-thirds of the video before we are told that they are actually dovecotes. Believe it or not, they were known in the UK long before the 16th century, in fact they date back to just after the Norman invasion. The oldest complete example in the UK dates to 1326.
Nice👍🙏❤️🌹
Thanks for this wonderful presentation.
I understand why Iran is a land of engineers👌🏿👍🏾
That was truly amazing thank you.
The victorians had dovecot that provided up to a 100 kg of extra meat for the kitchens every year
I have been interested in adobe forever and I have also grown to hate pigeons, but you just rocked my world!! I love to grow a garden and am always in need of nitrogen-rich material. This is awesome!!! Thank you!!
Guano is also a source for histoplasmosis like chickens manure and bat guano, so do your research to protect yourself!
I think all modern cities with a pigeon problem should invest in pigeon towers, harvest and sell the guana for a minimal price to cover costs and maintenance of the towers. It sure beats poisoning them or feeding them the pill and it would get the pigeons off the streets. I wonder if it would work for all those homeless drug addicted who display antisocial behavior that are not only an eyesore but also a health hazard.
Amazing, thanks for sharing this. Truly genius
That's enlightening!! Never knew that pigeon could be assets!
TL;DW - they are giant bird houses built to collect the bird poop for fertilizer.
This is amazing! I hope they don't forget the technology.
Took so long to get to the point that I figured it out myself
What a wonderfully clever idea!
This was fascinating.
Well done. Thank You
First time happened to see this technique. Very good.
It's really an informative about world tq sis.❤
Yachals, qanats, muqarnas... it seems a lot of the things we associate with the Middle East came from Persia.
These are a wonderful idea! They look North African to me. But isn't it interesting that across the Middle East and India they were used symbiotically: Humans give pigeons a safe home, and pigeons give humans crop fertilizer. 100% mutually beneficial. But as soon as the idea went west, people started killing and eating the birds, and making their fertilizer into gunpowder to kill each other.
That says a lot about us westerners, and it’s not complimentary, all societies have a negative side but darn to think they used it for gunpowder, when others were using it to create food is just so depressing.
Gunpowder was a new invention and as Europe wasn’t a desert they were able to switch over.
This isn’t the deep moral parable you think it is. ‘They could have had farmland but instead they decided on doom!’
People really are stupid and suggestible.
Besides with all the sectarian violence, wouldn’t you say the enlightened lands of the Middle East are doing enough killing amongst themselves at the moment?
I think pigeons are eaten in the Middle East too and Westerners did not need pigeon dung for fertilizer, Northern Europe is not a desert like Iran.
wonderfull , so intelligent, thanx so much for sharing
Very, very cool! Thanks!
Ingenious! The rest of the world complaining about lack of fertiliser should take a leaf out of this idea!
The issue is more complicated than this: You must maintain an ecosystem which feeds the pigeons. Otherwise, they will eat much of the crops. How did they sustain them?
Iran was far ahead of its time the greatest civilization ever.
I just learned something. Thank you.
Amazing video and info!
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing.
Amazing & beautiful pieces of work And with a purpose ‼️. Why can’t our modern culture be as smart & creative as our ancestors 🤔🥴. 👵🏻👩🌾❣️
This is an incredibly great idea we need to do this in the u.s. never have I seen anything like it anywhere in this country
It is brilliant and a practice I participate in. I keep pigeons on the farm and use the manure in all our gardens,
I never knew this until today.. many thanks❣️
You’re welcome 😊
Amazing 😮❤
What a delightful idea.
Amazing. A very good solution.
Perfect! We could use these in Florida for seabirds!
Thank you for sharing! This is a very interesting video❤
Unbelievable and Enlightenning!
It just goes to show that although we don't have written records, there's always been smart people inventing useful things.
I am at three of six minutes now, and they're still dancing around the specific purpose of these buildings for farming.
Do I really need to know the percentage of land mass that is occupied by the desert, country by country? Or could they just tell us that big parts of the countries of the region are occupied by desert and save almost a minute?
And now they're starting to tell us when farming started! I hope, it's just one sentence and then we get to know what we came here for. Seriously, otherwise I'll just google it.
Videos like this one are a real pain.
Cool birdhouses
This is a very good idea thanks for sharing
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I've been trying to think of a way to do this in the wash behind my house.
thanks for posting this edit.
There are some amazing dove cots in France that must have fed many people.
Brilliant, harvesting what others see as waste and putting it to very good use.
Isn't it amazing how everything we have today has been built used and forgotten over and over and over. Nothing is new it's just passing back through
Amazing...what a brilliant idea!