I think the video proves the truth of that remark! I always loved the sound of those units as they throttled up along with the inevitable black smoke from the turbocharger!
I can remember those big HR units when the SLR was running them through Groveton NH years ago on 393 & 394! Between Milan and Groveton they had such dynamic augment the SLR restricted them to 20MPH on that section. After those "went away" they had several of the new 6000 series rebuilt SD40's for a spell. About the last actual CN units they used were the brand new SD70's and SD75I's CN bought. For several years, that old GTNE line was a "catch-all" for many different CN units. And we'd be up that way switching Groveton with our old "well used" units! Love these videos David! Thanks for putting them up!
Great footage from the good ole days. One thing I like about CN is the diverse selection of motive power they had , Alco/MLW's , EMD/GMD's and GE's. Too bad these HR 616's didn't last long. Excellent video
3 times a charm. Great shots of these fleets of CN Rail diesel trains ex units from other railroads & visitors! 😃 the freight cars are exciting to watch! Do I want exact replicas of all of these In HO Scale & others! 🤣 Beautiful 🎥 video! 👋👋👋👋👋
Very cool video! I wish I could've seen more of these units in service. Would I be able to use some of the footage from this video for one of my own documentary about the end for the Cowl? The video is mostly about the GE ones, but I talk about the MLW and EMD ones a bit as well, and the overall history of the draper tapers.
On March 23, 2013, HR616 2112 was located in Silvis, Illinois. www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3434081 She's in the very top of the photo.
HyperActive7 They had an upgraded power unit that was not very energy efficient and there were only a few units in a large fleet of GM locos so keeping spare parts across the country was a problem.
Turbo EMD + Alco 251 v16, we just need a burbling Baldwin to make the locomotive trinity. Sacrilege yes, but God made man who made locomotives. I still give HIM the glory!!!! Jesus keep me from idolatry and deliver me from materialism!
P.S. if my older model trains in HO smoked like this 3 things would happen: I would probably be cursing, The motor or the commutator is getting slowly burned & or ruined & 3 hopefully not the Fire Department! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Seriously unless they're newer scale models that have these features I'm watching. They're only available in O gauge which ones in HO is a mystery at this time..🤔
Very nice! Once I asked a CN employee at Mac yard if they had any HR 616's around and he said, "You mean those engines that go clunk clunk clunk?"
I think the video proves the truth of that remark! I always loved the sound of those units as they throttled up along with the inevitable black smoke from the turbocharger!
@@david-othen Wish they were still around, but it is rumored that there are 5 or 6 at NRE Silvis, although they may have been scrapped.
@@ctf6420 They are gone now.
@@matthewq4b That's sad :(
@@ctf6420 Agreed, at least one should have been put aside or acquired for preservation.
I can remember those big HR units when the SLR was running them through Groveton NH years ago on 393 & 394! Between Milan and Groveton they had such dynamic augment the SLR restricted them to 20MPH on that section. After those "went away" they had several of the new 6000 series rebuilt SD40's for a spell. About the last actual CN units they used were the brand new SD70's and SD75I's CN bought. For several years, that old GTNE line was a "catch-all" for many different CN units. And we'd be up that way switching Groveton with our old "well used" units! Love these videos David! Thanks for putting them up!
+David Poor Interesting memories!
The good old HR-616. The engines that go clank clank clank.
Great footage from the good ole days. One thing I like about CN is the diverse selection of motive power they had , Alco/MLW's , EMD/GMD's and GE's. Too bad these HR 616's didn't last long. Excellent video
Once again David. Thank you love the smoke and mechanical noise. Stan UK.
3 times a charm. Great shots of these fleets of CN Rail diesel trains ex units from other railroads & visitors! 😃 the freight cars are exciting to watch! Do I want exact replicas of all of these In HO Scale & others! 🤣 Beautiful 🎥 video! 👋👋👋👋👋
These locomotives are awesome! They will be missed!
Canadian Railfan 5 still exist in Silvia
@@9751asd hmmm interesting
Canadian Railfan update: sadly the surviving 5 were scrapped last year:(
@@9751asd ahhhh thats unfortunate
i love how the bell on 2108 changes its ring rate as the horn blows
Tony Fleetwood must be using up a lot of air pressure
Very cool video! I wish I could've seen more of these units in service. Would I be able to use some of the footage from this video for one of my own documentary about the end for the Cowl? The video is mostly about the GE ones, but I talk about the MLW and EMD ones a bit as well, and the overall history of the draper tapers.
Hi, I manage this account for David's widow. Sorry, you may not use any footage from this video.
thank you for this video and the other ones like it! i love the HR six- sixteens!
Tony Fleetwood You are most welcome. Glad you enjoyed them.
Good chase of the gypsum train.
I enjoy ALCO engine sound at run 8.
Love the classic 251 bark!
whats that mean?
@@KondogeAlco 251
I subscribed, thanks! What bulk material are these open gondolas hauling and what was the origin/destination of these unit trains?
Hi Robert, those gondolas haul gypsum from the mines at Milford, Nova Scotia to the port in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia for shipping.
@@TrainGeek Thanks!
I wonder how long the would have lasted on the Delaware Lackawanna railroad, had they got their hands on them.
They may have been built by ALCO successor Bombardier, but they still smoked just like an ALCO!
Hi would it be ok if I used some of this footage in my upcoming TH-cam video on the M420?
Wow great video! Those things are awesome!
Massive beasts. Love it.
most of the HR616's are still at NREs silvis backlot intact.
I wonder if there is much that can be used after being stored for many years.
David Othen parts. Fairbanks Morse still manufactures the Alco 251F.
Think they're all gone
Why were all the units scrapped? They seem useful.
6:45 What type of diesel locomotives are they?
GMDD SD40-2W
Great job david
Would love to know what the theme song is in the beginning.
+jakethecake1000 It was a piece of royalty free music that was labelled COMM03
Hard to believe CN's Wet Noodle paint scheme is over 60 years old. Still the best railroad livery anywhere
On March 23, 2013, HR616 2112 was located in Silvis, Illinois.
www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3434081
She's in the very top of the photo.
Many thanks - I have included the information in the description.
Seen plenty of Zebras
Canadian railways seem a lot different than American ones which is odd considering how similar the two countries kinda are
Why did these have such a short life? They seem like scrappy units.
HyperActive7 They had an upgraded power unit that was not very energy efficient and there were only a few units in a large fleet of GM locos so keeping spare parts across the country was a problem.
@@david-othen should have rebuilt the engines
6:45 These diesel locomotives look like they are from the movie 🍿🎥 Atomic Train 🚃🚂 1999
Nope , their m420's in the movie
AWESOME DAVID!
Thanks Will. Glad you and your readers are enjoying it.
What was the engine 2100 called
HR 616 Built by bombardier
Some are still at nre sitting collecting rust
They're all gone
can I ask what size engine those are
thanks Dave
The HR-616s used the ALCO 251G (V-16, 3200HP).
668 cubic inch per cylinder × 16
There is 5-6 left that are known of.
Yes - it is surprising that so many are still around although I doubt if many are in working order.
When they acquired them, they where operational, which was 1998.. lol
I doubt that leaving sitting for 18 years has mproved their performance!
+David Othen It's a nice capital investment lol
In historical artifacts!!
Very nice!
A folkswagen emission, hehe.
+George Kusz Alco engines were note for their smoky emissions.
naaaa, ALCO's are UN euro8 certified clean burn........!!!!!!!!
Turbo EMD + Alco 251 v16, we just need a burbling Baldwin to make the locomotive trinity. Sacrilege yes, but God made man who made locomotives. I still give HIM the glory!!!! Jesus keep me from idolatry and deliver me from materialism!
Seen plenty of Zebras
OMG CN Train
P.S. if my older model trains in HO smoked like this 3 things would happen: I would probably be cursing, The motor or the commutator is getting slowly burned & or ruined & 3 hopefully not the Fire Department! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Seriously unless they're newer scale models that have these features I'm watching. They're only available in O gauge which ones in HO is a mystery at this time..🤔
Some must need engine work too much Blue and Black Smoke not good in Canada
Is it just me or do ALCO diesel engines run like shit?
they don't fall apart,and they don't catch fire like a GE!
only ones that are powered by ALCo 244 prime movers are shit