@@prophecyfulfilling Thank you for sharing. 2nd Baruch chapter 6 seems to confirm where Ron found the ark. As for Walters views. I enjoy Walters teachings but have found a few things that he promotes that are different than my understanding. The Great Red Dragon in Revelation 12 is one I know for fact is a celestial body and it is almost upon us. Here are the verses in 2nd Baruch 6:4 And I saw, and behold, there were standing four malakim at the four comers of the city, each of them with a burning torch in his hands. 6:5 And another malak came down from heaven and said to them, "Hold your torches and do not light them before I say it to you. 6:6 Because I was sent first to speak a Word to the earth and then to deposit in it what YAHWEH, the Most High, has commanded me." 6:7 And I saw that he descended in the Kodesh of HaKodesh and that he took from there the veil, the kodesh ephod, the mercy seat, the two tables, the kodesh raiment of the kohenim, the altar of incense, the forty-eight precious stones with which the kohenim were clothed, and all the kodesh vessels of the tabernacle. 6:8 And he said to the earth with a loud voice: Earth, earth, earth, hear the Word of the ALMIGHTY YAHWEH, and receive the things which I commit to you, and guard them until the last times, so that you may restore them when you are ordered, so that strangers may not get possession of them. As for the Great Red Dragon here is a short excerpt from an 8-hour video revealing the coverup by NASA as well as one of the names in modern times have been given it. From the ancient scrolls it should soon pass over the Sun and cover 1/5 of the sky above. th-cam.com/video/a5TsF7ciXyA/w-d-xo.html When you study the book of Revelation chapter 12 it is regarding events in heaven. I learned about the Great Red Dragon in 1973-1974 when my 5th grade class was placed in a government pilot program. The instructors seemed to not understand it's connection to prophecy though. As they were teaching us about what is now at the door I would go home and compare what we were being taught to the Revelation. The heralds of its approach are being felt all over the world now. As for the Ark of the Covenant, it never left Jerusalem. It would also seem Walter has not watched Ron Wyatts discovery in full. 24 chromosomes were found in the blood. 23 from Mary and one Y chromosome from Yah. Maranatha!
@@prophecyfulfilling Thank you for sharing. 2nd Baruch chapter 6:4 And I saw, and behold, there were standing four malakim at the four comers of the city, each of them with a burning torch in his hands. 6:5 And another malak came down from heaven and said to them, "Hold your torches and do not light them before I say it to you. 6:6 Because I was sent first to speak a Word to the earth and then to deposit in it what YAHWEH, the Most High, has commanded me." 6:7 And I saw that he descended in the Kodesh of HaKodesh and that he took from there the veil, the kodesh ephod, the mercy seat, the two tables, the kodesh raiment of the kohenim, the altar of incense, the forty-eight precious stones with which the kohenim were clothed, and all the kodesh vessels of the tabernacle. 6:8 And he said to the earth with a loud voice: Earth, earth, earth, hear the Word of the ALMIGHTY YAHWEH, and receive the things which I commit to you, and guard them until the last times, so that you may restore them when you are ordered, so that strangers may not get possession of them. 6:9 For the time has arrived when Yerusalem will also be delivered up for a time, until the moment that it will be said that it will be restored forever. 6:10 And the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up. I like Walter but he should not comment on something he hasn't deeply studied. My understanding is different than Walters. Revelation 12 are events in heaven. The Great Red Dragon aka Dragon aka Doomshape aka Doomdragon aka The Destroyer, is a celestial object which Yah uses to render judgement upon the earth, Soon the earth will be rent asunder as Isaiah had proclaimed. It will wobble like a drunkard and when the stars change their stations the tsunamis follow. Men's hearts will fail them for looking upon the things that are coming upon the earth for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. The heralds that precede the Great Red Dragon's Passover are being felt around the world. Sadly, few truly seem to understand what is about to occur. Here is just one example on how much you have been lied to. th-cam.com/video/a5TsF7ciXyA/w-d-xo.html
@@prophecyfulfilling 2 BARUCH 6 6:1 Now it happened on the following day that, behold, an army of the Chaldeans surrounded the city. And in the evening I, Baruch, left the people, went outside, and set myself by an oak. 6:2 And I was grieving over Zion and sighed because of the captivity which had come upon the people. 6:3 And behold, suddenly a strong ruach lifted me and carried me above the wall of Yerusalem. 6:4 And I saw, and behold, there were standing four malakim at the four comers of the city, each of them with a burning torch in his hands. 6:5 And another malak came down from heaven and said to them, "Hold your torches and do not light them before I say it to you. 6:6 Because I was sent first to speak a Word to the earth and then to deposit in it what YAHWEH, the Most High, has commanded me." 6:7 And I saw that he descended in the Kodesh of HaKodesh and that he took from there the veil, the kodesh ephod, the mercy seat, the two tables, the kodesh raiment of the kohenim, the altar of incense, the forty-eight precious stones with which the kohenim were clothed, and all the kodesh vessels of the tabernacle. 6:8 And he said to the earth with a loud voice: Earth, earth, earth, hear the Word of the ALMIGHTY YAHWEH, and receive the things which I commit to you, and guard them until the last times, so that you may restore them when you are ordered, so that strangers may not get possession of them. 6:9 For the time has arrived when Yerusalem will also be delivered up for a time, until the moment that it will be said that it will be restored forever. 6:10 And the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up.
I’m a big fan of Walters Ministry but he has points wrong here. 1. The blood that was tested DID have 1 male chromosome-which made the Lord a male. So he is surprisingly wrong there. 2. The original Passover was exactly that, a typology for the blood of the lamb Jesus being shed and also the future sealing of God’s people. The difference with the actual event of Jesus’ death is that it is the fulfilment of the typology and the end of the Judaic sacrificial system of Moses. There is no violation of the original typology but the fulfilment. It makes full sense and is logical the that the blood of Jesus would land on the Mercy seat…Jesus then ascended to the Father to validate acceptance of His sacrifice. According to sacrificial protocol, the sacrificial blood must fall onto the mercy seat. Does it not make spiritual and biblical sense that the blood of God’s dear Son would complete the process God gave us?? So I am surprised by Walter’s arrogance about this matter. The SDA church rejected Ron yet he preached the 3 Angel’s messages faithfully. God and time will judge and reveal the truth. 🙏 Sleep well Ron from your labours which shall follow you. 🙏
So where are the results of this blood test? Surely that would make world news. Something that big has to be verified doesn’t it? I’m just asking, it just doesn’t add up from what I’ve heard.
Normally, I defer to Walter, however, he is EXACTLY incorrect about what Wyatt said about the y Chromosome. Wyatt stated that the Y chromosome was present, but rest of the chromosomes from a human father were not present.
@@BBB1980. Please reconsider carefully. I've come to the conclusion that Ron Wyatt was one hundred percent correct. Jesus was as human as you and I are. The Y chromosome which was supplied from the Father was necessary for Jesus to become a male. All of His human attributes came through Mary's twenty three chromosomes. Now consider this thought: if Jesus had forty six chromosomes, twenty three from Mary, but where would the other twenty three come from? Jesus didn't have an earthly father, so God would've had to give Jesus twenty three instead of just that one sex-determining Y chromosome. Now would you agree with me that God never creates anything less than perfect. God wouldn't have given Jesus the twenty three age-degenerated missing chromosomes. And God obviously didn't give Jesus twenty three perfect chromosomes which would be the only other option. And people don't realize that had God given Jesus these other twenty three perfect chromosomes, them He certainly wouldn't have been exactly the same as us, after all, which of us has a perfect set of chromosomes? Adam would've had them, but Jesus came with our nature, not Adam's. Also, something else to think about. Jesus was born of a virgin. Do you know anyone else born of a virgin? If you do, please get a sample of their blood so we can do a chromosome count. I know this is a lot to take in, but I hope I explained clearly enough.
@@BBB1980.Jesus had all his mothers human qualities and one Y chromosome that came from God. That's the result of the laboratory tests on the blood of Jesus Christ taken from the mercy seat by Ron Wyatt. The blood was still alive. There is no reason to doubt Ron Wyatt. He found the Red Sea crossing, the real Mt Sinai, Sodom and Gomorrah, Noah's Ark and the Ark of the Covenant. All his work was inspired by God in answer to prayer. Ron asked God to give him the mission of finding proof of the Bible to help people to believe. He spent over a million dollars of his own money doing God's work. He encountered many miracles that enabled him succeed in his work. He had not motive to undertake this work other than the will of God. He informed the Israeli authorities of his discovery of the Ark of the Covenant. It was supernaturally pointed out to him where the location was. His arm just shot out and pointed to where is was and the words just came from his mouth; that where the Ark was hidden. He spent many years hard work and found it under the crucifixion site. There are four angels guarding the Ark and six soldiers were killed when they tried to remove it. Ron had to retrieve their bodies. The Ark will be revealed in God's time. Ron has placed a video which he took in the Ark to prove his story is true. He said it will be revealed when the Sunday Laws are enforced. Ron Wyatt is a man of God. His discoveries are on TH-cam videos for all to see.
@@marcomonti4231I completely agree - I posted my comment above. Moreover I’m surprised by Walter’s and Francois arrogance displayed here. And I am a great admirer of Walters but he has this wrong.
I have a great deal of respect for Walter Veith; his messages years ago were very powerful in solidifying me in the truth I hold so dear today! However I am very perplexed by the position he has taken against Ron Wyatt. When I first heard his answer on this question, it initially detoured me from looking any deeper into this topic. More recently however I have had a strong desire to look into the validity of Ron Wyatt much deeper, and here I am revisiting the comments that once concerned me. I see now that, unfortunately, Ron Wyatt was completely misquoted. When explaining the tested blood Ron Wyatt always made it clear that there was a male Y chromosome making Jesus fully male. As for the second point against Ron, a violation of typology, I do not believe this is fair. Please consider that Jesus was not only our high priest, but our sacrificial lamb, a merging of two types. This is made very clear by Ellen White in the following quotation: “Christ fulfilled still another feature of the type. “His visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men; so shall he sprinkle many nations.” [Isaiah 52:14, 15.] In the temple service, when the animal brought as a sacrifice was slain, the high priest, clothed in white robes, caught in his hand the blood that gushed forth, and cast it in the direction of the tabernacle or Temple. This was done seven times, as an expression of perfection. So Christ, the great antitype, Himself both High Priest and Victim, clothed with His own spotless robes of righteousness, after giving His life for the world, cast the virtue of His offering, a crimson current, in the direction of the Holy Place, reconciling man to God through the blood of the cross.12LtMs, Ms 101, 1897, par. 34” Notice that she states that a crimson current (his blood) was cast in the direction of the most holy place. Is it possibly that God inspired her pen to write these words the way she did in 1897, knowing that in the future he would surprise us with additional light? When I look at the complexity of all God has made, and his perfect attention to detail that I can scarcely wrap my mind around; when I note that God even asked Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac on the same spot that he would give Jesus (his only son), I am left in amazement! I must leave room in my heart for the possibility that God actually directed his people to hide the ark under the exact spot that Jesus would die years later. Could it be that not only was Jesus’s death symbolic, but a literal typology as well: both with literal blood atoning for our sins on the mercy seat, and with his sacrifice being offered in the presence of the sanctuary? I realize that Ron made claims that cannot be substantiated, but we are not told to immediately reject any new light, but rather to test the spirit and if it speak not according to the word of God it has no light in it. After listening to countless hours of Ron’s testimonies, of the witnesses of his friends, family, and traveling companions, I see a man who placed his trust in God. A man that humbly gave God all the credit for any discovery that he was shown. A man that was driven by a desire to show the world that the Bible is not a book of fables, but of real events and places that existed and continue to have lessons we can learn from today! Never have I heard him speak against the Bible or the spirit of prophesy, and continually I have seen him point to Gods law as the standard of righteousness. No man is perfect, but Ron certainly seemed to live the truth he preached to others. It is important to note that God gives us plenty of evidence in the Bible and in the spirit of prophesy to hang our faith upon, but other things are often difficult to understand or even meant for a later time. As for Ron’s other discoveries, it is impossible to deny these places exist at this point. Many researchers have gone on to explore these sites in more depth. Dozens of credible videos are circulating on the internet showing the detailed reports and video footage of the places Ron visited. It was simply unfair for Duplesis to say that none of Wyatt’s discoveries were credible. As someone who very much values Walter Veith, I hope that he will revisit this issue with an honest heart and much prayer. There is so much more to say, but I will conclude with a few quotes of interest. Although I do believe that God has a great original in Heaven, please note that Ellen White states that the tablets of stone in the earthly ark will also be revealed in God’s appointed time. “Before the temple was destroyed, God made known to a few of His faithful servants the fate of the temple, which was the pride of Israel, and which they regarded with idolatry, while they were sinning against God. He also revealed to them the captivity of Israel. These righteous men, just before the destruction of the temple, removed the sacred ark containing the tables of stone, and with mourning and sadness, secreted it in a cave where it was to be hid from the people of Israel, because of their sins, and was to be no more restored to them. That sacred ark is yet hid. It has never been disturbed since it was secreted.”-4SG 114, 115 (1864); The Spirit of Prophecy 1:414 (1870); The Story of Redemption, 195. “Among the righteous still in Jerusalem, to whom had been made plain the divine purpose, were some who determined to place beyond the reach of ruthless hands the sacred ark containing the tables of stone on which had been traced the precepts of the Decalogue. This they did. With mourning and sadness they secreted the ark in a cave, where it was to be hidden from the people of Israel and Judah because of their sins, and was to be no more restored to them. That sacred ark is yet hidden. It has never been disturbed since it was secreted.”-Prophets and Kings, 453 (published in 1917); emphasis supplied. “The precious record of the law was placed in the ark of the testament and is still there, safely hidden from the human family. But in God’s appointed time He will bring forth these tables of stone to be a testimony to all the world against the disregard of His commandments and against the idolatrous worship of a counterfeit Sabbath.”-Ms 122, 1901 (The S.D.A. Bible Commentary 1:1109).
I respect Walter Veith a lot. However, it does not mean he gets everything right. Ron did say that there was a Y chromosome.Pastor V needs to take a listen again to his testimony. It could be that Ron Wyatt got it right. Only time will tell. I will not join Pastor Veith and condemn Wyatt’s testimony. I will wait and see how it all turns out. If he were an accomplished archeologist, many ppl will have believed. To many people, it is unbelievable that a novice like Ron could find all those biblical landmarks one after the next, while accomplished archaeologists ( Christians or not) failed to discover them. God many times work with the unqualified. As a result, those individuals have nothing to boast about. E G White didn’t reach far in school yet she has written many inspiring books etc. She did not study theology nor had a long list of titles behind her name but she has won many souls to Jesus via her books. Jesus came and He claimed to be the Messiah but the ‘educated’ Jews did not believe Him. He did not have a long list of accomplishments according to their culture. He didn’t have pomp and riches. For many even today, only time will tell. The safest route anyone should take is to give it time and see how things unfold.
What settles it for me is the unbiblical claim Wyatt made that the blood of Christ dripping onto the mercy seat completed the atonement. That's not supported in Scripture. Jesus still ministers his blood today before the heavenly ark of the covenant.
That's exactly! Professor Weith is brilliant but by his answer on this topik, he actually showed that he did not have researched much. Biological argument goes down, and in mine opinion tipological also. Why shouldn't blood from real Lamb sprinkle on real arc of the covenant?! On contrary, it is so in line with Bible.
@@sanjaljucovic2179 Passover lamb blood was never taken into the most holy place where the ark was. High Priest only approached ark of covenant once a year. Not during Passover but some 6 months later during Yom Kippur
Ron Wyatt is 110% true on his Ark of the Covenant finding and all though I love Dr Veith's work on Islam Vatican connections he is an ostrich head in the sand of oblivion concerning Ron Wyatt and the angels Ron met when he was led to discover the Ark of the Covenant
The place where the Ark is declared to be, is also ok with the information we have from Sop, that states it was hidden by sacred hands the night before Babilonian invasion so it must be not far from the Temple, and a cave with it’s entrance blocked with stones is mentioned. Michel Rood has a pretty interesting theory of how that happened and you can find it on youtube. Ellen White also stated that the Ark is still hidden in the same place, and so will be till Sunday low. I believe everything fits pretty well.
SOP does not say the Ark is hidden until Sunday Law. Michael Rood is also a false teacher as was Wyatt and his disciples. We should be focusing on the heavenly ministry of Christ in front of the heavenly Ark of the Covenant where His blood is being administered for each one of us NOW!
@@mh1962-u1q You cannot believe in Ron and the SOP at the same time. One is in error. Ron said Jesus only 24 Chromosomes. How can He be our example if that is the case?
@@ourfuturetoday1958Jesus was born of a virgin. Who among us was born from a virgin??? Does that nullify Jesus' humanity??? Why do you expect Jesus to have 46 chromosomes yet He had one earthly parent???
We however find that Galatians 4:24-25 clearly states that Mount Sinai is in Arabia, but tourists who are not familiar with these Scriptures are not taken there for the whole area is cordoned off by the Arabs, exactly how Ronn Wyatt presents it.
Hey folks, the Arabs have opened their country and this particular region for tourism, some 3 to 4 years ago. It is no longer "cordoned off!" You can travel there, climb Mt Horeb, visit the cave of Elijah, the altar of Moses, the stones which held the golden calf, and not far away, within sight of that mountain, the metal works in which all the parts of the wilderness tabernacle were cast. The totality of visible evidence is concrete. With the place open for tourism, much more has been found, and continues to be found than Ron ever dreamed of finding! This is a certainty, no longer a guessing matter, though many have a bias against Ron, because of false accusations. God will deal with those who work against Him in any detail. That kind of behavior, with doubt and casting aspersions against God's messengers, has a long history. It should not be sourced from others who appear to be researching and presenting the truth for this time in earth's history. Ron Wyatt's finds are part of God's planned means of strengthening our faith so we can be ready when He comes. Is it a surprise that we must exercise faith here? We must gain our strength from the Word of God, and not be discouraged by naysayers who are blinded to the truth, and who fail to see what is obvious and has been made open for us to see and know.
Strange.....I am usually with Veith....but this one seems a little off. The issue with chromosome was not correct. The other guy provides absolutely no science and completely writes it off. I heard a family member (I think) of Wyatt's and they said the SDA conference wrote him off as soon as he said he wouldn't go along with them having someone else take credit for his work.... They told him it would be an "embarrassment" to the church to have him as the "archeologist" because he had no credentials. Something is fishy here...
That man who supposedly should present Ron's findigs to the public without making an embarrassed SDA Church, beeing educated archeologist (professor at Andrews) was dr Shea. Ron did not accept that manipulation (if he accepted that he could not stayed alive in front of Mercy Seat later?) but dr Shea never reject a possibility for Durupinar beeing a real thing, a Noach 's Ark. He rejected other Ron's findings. Something indeed is very fishy
@@mh1962-u1q Well not as disappointed as I am to know that some people do not read the Spirit of Prophecy. I went to see Ron Wyatt when he visited Australia for talk shows and did not like what i heard and saw. Nowhere is it said that the tables of the law will be brought forth by men as a result of finding them hidden in a cave instead it clearly states that God will reveal the Ark of the Covenant and the tables to view and not man ,after probation has closed for all men. The tables will then be exhibited "as the rule of judgment." So Ron could be seen as a fraud. No wonder he did not reveal them to the world. "While these words of holy trust ascend to God, the clouds sweep back, and the starry heavens are seen, unspeakably glorious in contrast with the black and angry firmament on either side. The glory of the celestial city streams from the gates ajar. Then there appears against the sky a hand holding two tables of stone folded together. Says the prophet: `The heavens shall declare His righteousness: for God is judge Himself' (Psalm 50:6). That holy law, God's righteousness, that amid thunder and flame was proclaimed from Sinai as the guide of life, is now revealed to men as the rule of judgment. The hand opens the tables, and there are seen the precepts of the Decalogue, traced as with a pen of fire. The words are so plain that all can read them."--GC 639. So Walter and Francois are correct.
Dear Professor Veith, I love your work and watch your videos often. But sometimes you seem to fail to study, spectacularly. This is one of those cases. You base your untoward decision and comments against Ron Wyatt on a false statement, using the excuse of "Typology." Please take note of this reference, very much about the typology, and it's not the only one! "Once a year, on the great day of atonement, the priest entered the most holy place for the cleansing of the sanctuary. The work there performed completed the yearly round of ministration. On the day of atonement, two kids of the goats were brought to the door of the tabernacle, and lots were cast upon them, “one lot for the Lord, and the other lot for the scape-goat.” [Leviticus 16:8, 21, 22.] The goat upon which fell the lot for the Lord was to be slain as a sin-offering for the people. And the priest was to bring his blood within the veil, and sprinkle it upon the mercy-seat, and before the mercy-seat. The blood was also to be sprinkled upon the altar of incense, that was before the veil." {Great Controversy '88 page 419.1} The representative blood was sprinkled both upon the Mercy-Seat, and scattered before the Ark and Mercy-seat! I do believe that Ron Wyatt had studied that passage many times. On the basis of Typology, I'm forced to accept the evidence which Ron discovered and which the Bible seems to support unquestionably. Beyond that, the evidence of the Red Sea crossing has been verified by many others, and so has the location of the true Mt Horeb/Sinai. The evidence as currently known, some as recently as 3 years ago found by recent visitors, powerfully proves the identity of that location. You could say, "there are mountains of evidence." Then there is even the New Testament witness to that same mountain by Paul, who visited that same spot. Galatians 4:24, 25 KJV Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. In addition, further study on the finding of Noah's Ark has shown that beneath the ground, there are contours and large openings that are entirely consistent with the biblical evidence for Noah's Ark, the structure having been washed downhill and impacted upon large rocks where it is currently lodged. There are plans in development to explore physically beneath the surface to see and photograph whatever they find. I'll stick with the obvious "weight of evidence" as well as what the Bible clearly describes on so many details.
I fully believed in Ron whatt, it was not only Ron whatt who agrees on Noah's ark but other people as well . Plus look into the sanctuary on how the priest usually sprinkled the blood before the ark when the sin offering is offered.
But if He was made in all points like as we are, how could He not have both types of chromosomes? He wasn't human if he didn't have both sets. This is new teaching. Not just archeology. During the Passover, blood never was sprinkled on the ark. Nor is it ever suggested as having to happen. Without his "discovery" of the ark and the "blood of Christ" we wouldn't have known the covenant was ratified? Where does it say that is even necessary? Adventists believe we are in the antitypical Day of Atonement - why would a covenant be ratified during the passover in a Day of Atonement style? He's mixing feasts and skewing the sda teaching of the Investigative Judgement which began at the end of the 2300 evenings and mornings of Daniel 8:14. Also the New Covenant symbolism switched from animals, altars and temples to Jesus, Communion, and the heavenly sanctuary. At His death, the curtain was torn! That sanctuary was done! Over. Fulfilled! Even if there was the ark under the cross. Why is there no hint of this being necessary in the Bible or Spirit of Prophecy? With all due respect, but Wyatt is creating some kind of new theology. That's saying He had a human body but also didn't? That's close to the gnostic Docitists who say He didn't have a body but just the appearance of one. I'm also curious as to why Wyatt wasn't nockef down to the ground as with every other prophet in the Bible. After that, I have dozens more questions. I'm not calling him a liar. I'm calling his confused as when I measure it against the Bible it does not add up. God bless you and would love to hear back from you.
I agree. Walter Veith and François du Plessis are doing a fantastic job and I learned a lot thanks to their lectures but what happened here is very sad. Their attitude is not Christian at all. Walter adopts a dogmatic and presumptuous stance regarding the theology. It seems perfectly logical that the blood of Christ was sprinkled on the mercy seat, thus being the antitype, once and for all, of the sprinkling performed on the yearly day of atonement. His statement also implies that Ron lied. But Ron was a God-fearing, honest man. Regarding the biological argument, Walter has it completely wrong because Ron never said that the blood had no Y chromosome. Ron said that it had 23 chromosomes from His mother and 1 Y miraculously received, thus 24 chromosomes in total. François calling Ron “an embarrassment” with a mocking smile was also very disappointing. We all make mistakes and I pray that the Holy Spirit will make Walter and François realise that they did not give a good example of humility.
Do you believe in the immortality of the soul..Ron claimed the blood was dry but not dead..the arknof the covenant he claimed to have found is not the same as the biblical one..he has pomegranates surrounded the mercy seat..but the bible says crowns surrounded the edge of the ark..theres no mention of the angels holding staffs or wearing bonnets that Ron has added..the bible and SOP do not support his claims. It's not an attack against Ron Wyatt but rather truth v error..God warns not to add to his word or take away..Rons trying to explain the mystery of Christ's incarnation.
@@mh1962-u1q If you know anything about South Africans, you will know that they are direct and honest. I agree with them. If RW found the ark of the covenant, where is it now? Also, someone else speaking on this, said he was unwell with a raging fever and quite unwell. Did he hallucinate? Maybe. There is a lot of money going into these digs with not much discovery. Ross Paterson has spent multiple thousands on his digs for twenty years or more, donations from people thinking that they are on the edge of a big discovery allegedly. If there was anything to find it would have been found by now imo.
@@mh1962-u1q mh, Yes, Walter has many good things to say, but he goes directly against EGW's writings when talking weird conspiracy theories, and here he shows he is contemptuous of an amateur archaeologist who just following what God has shown us in the Holy Bible.
@@BBB1980. I remember something about it. Think it was in one of the many videos I watched. However I never confirmed it so my statement is not worth much. I can remember Ellen White was supposed to have written something about the commandments being revealed. I never noted where she was supposed to have written it. Long winter ahead. I may reveal some videos.
@@glennbrooks3449 Ellen White makes it clear that the 10 Commandments will be brought forth around the time of the Sunday Law, and people will see clearly what God wants, and what man wants. The Mark of the Beast isn't going to be done in secret!
@@earlysda It will be brought forth at a time of God's choosing, and the SOP seems to indicate that that time will be a bit after the close of probation. It will confirm our faith, and reveal to those who have turned away from the truth that they made the wrong choice. No one will be converted by the revealing. God has called on us to have faith in His word, and His leading. By doubting biblical evidence, we lose out on heaven. Biblical evidence can be had through a desire for Truth, and seeking for God to guide your study and research.
Ron whyatt did mentioned that the only Y chromosomes present was the one that determined his sex. I totally disagree with Walter on this one. I was so disappointed when they said that Ron Whyatt is an ambarassment to the SDA community. We do have the HOLY SPIRIT that identify the truth to us and not merely human words.
The so called "embarrassment" is on the part of a certain set of persons in the church, who listened to false reports, and chose to echo those false ideas and attempt to discredit Ron Wyatt. Ron's work stands on it's own and the evidence is still there to study. The evidence has greatly expanded and gotten stronger in support since Ron was there!
Ron Wyatt said that the blood he found on the ark had 24 chromosomes and he only got the Y chromosome ( which is the male determining chromosome) from his Heavenly Father . ( sorry Walter but you need to double check your facts here before you present this to other believers) Here is something interesting that I believe is confirmation from scripture that Jesus’s blood fell on the mercy seat : 1 . The ark of the covenant and its meaning was only applicable to the Jews. 2. Mathew’s gospel was written for a Jewish audience . 3. If you study Mathew’s gospel , you will see that it is written to prove that a Jesus is indeed the messiah ( through proving the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies) 4. One of Ron Wyatt’s statements was that when the centurion stabbed Jesus with his spear , that the blood and water dripped down the crack caused by the earthquake and fell on the mercy seat . 5. I found it very interesting that the only account in the gospels of the earth quake at Jesus’s cruxifixction is recorded in Mathew . ( in my opinion , we need to be sensitive to scripture . There is nothing in Gods word that is not deliberate and everything is for our learning )
sadly, I think it was very disrespectful for Francois to say that "this man is an embarrassment." That does not seem like the character of Christ speaking :(
I would say a teacher of false theology is an embarrassment. May we all be embarrassed for teaching weird and false things. Kellogg was also an embarrassment. Its ok to admit when something is weird and deceptive. Embarrassment is a better word than some would use..
Well i do support Walter Veith and the Seventh Day Adventist beliefs but most professed christians in this world say the same things about Seventh Day Adventist beliefs as Walter and François said about Ron Wyatt.
True, Francois could have given more of a solid basis for why he was rejecting it. Veith did a good job of explaining why Wyatt's claims about the blood don't pass a doctrinal test.
@@prophecyfulfilling I've watched all the evidence from Ron Wyatt and its pretty convincing to me. Everyone gets caught up on the Ark of The Covenant because there's no video evidence like the other discoveries. Again I can understand that because no one can look on the ark and live except one whom God chooses and he obviously chose Ron. So, I'm not going to let envy build up in my mind and heart because God chose Ron and not me or others. Also God even had Henry Gruver meet Ron in Jerusalem in a miraculous way. And anyone who's watched Henry Gruver knows he was a prayer walker and a true man of God. And Michael Rood met Ron and also had signs from God to meet Ron. Everything I've researched in the past 12 years has led me to believe Ron Wyatt was telling the truth. Its really sad to me to see Walter and François write Ron off as con man.
As Dr. Veith said, he has a problem with the "y" chromosome. So, I also say, I have a problem with Dr. Veith's argument; I am also a biologist like him. Dr. Veith said, there was no "y" chromosome, but Ron Wyaat said that THERE WAS A "Y" CHROMOSOME but not of any human. Dr. Veith deteriorated Wyaat's explanation.
There is to be in the churches a wonderful manifestation of the power of God, but it will not move upon those who have not humbled themselves before the Lord, and opened the door of their heart by confession and repentance. In the manifestation of that power which lightens the earth with the glory of God, they will see only something which in their blindness they think dangerous, something which will arouse their fears, and they will brace themselves to resist it. Because the Lord does not work according to their expectations and ideal, they will oppose the work. “Why,” they say, “should we not know the Spirit of God, when we have been in the work so many years?” Because they did not respond to the warnings, the entreaties, of the messages of God, but persistently said, “I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing.”Mar 219.2
I believe that Ron Wyatt was used by ABBA FATHER. What I hear is sarcasm and a hint of mocking of him. What does the holy Scriptures say about talking in such speech about people. I have never heard Ron Wyatt speak about others in this manner that apposed him.
The Blood was only applied to the Mercy Seat on the Day of Atonement. 14 Nisan was not the Day of Atonement in 31 AD and can never be. If the Blood dripping on the Mercy Seat in 31 AD was a fulfillment of the Mosaic type, what need of a future application of the Blood in Heavenly places?
These two men remind me of the teachers and scribes of the old times that knew Scriptures but missed Christ completely. That is why Jesus went to common people that would listen to Him. That are not full of themselves. His facts he got wrong. Ron Wyatt said he had 1 Y Chromosome. What Ron Wyatt found will now be revealed in the prophetic Fall season which is exactly right and in line with Yom Kippur. These men are shortsighted and jealous of a humble man like Ron Wyatt. It was prophesied that the Christ would anoint the most holy place in Daniel 9 24. Little humility these days in many church “leaders”
I respect much Dr. Veith and listen all his preaching. But here he pulled himself by lying about Ronald Wyaat's (Ron) statement, that there was not "y" chromosome, when Ron stated, "there was".
I've prayed about it, listened again to Walter and he makes sense when he says that only once a yr the blood was sprinkled on the mercy seat. It wasn't done during the passover feast. That's powerful, unfortunately it doesn't look good for Ron's theory, we cant make the rules as we go, we follow God's rules. What Ron found as in the blood is yet to be figured out, but I have to stick with God's set ordinances unaltered. Ron was sincere, he did find Sodom and Gomorrah, and the red sea crossing, it's possible that after that he may have been duped by the arch deceiver and took him down the garden path... God will be the judge. I do wish Walter would do an expose of this matter because it does have alot of people, including myself wondering. But thank goodness for this short video... would just like to hear more, but as I said we have to credit Ron with these other amazing discoveries though.
I dunno...we judge by their fruits. How is it 100% accurate He discoverd those other things? We can't rule only with our senses! Also it's been made a test question almost. Almost like a relic based religion. He creates His own theology & "new light" on the story with every find he made! Why believe the ark had ancor stones? Why believe that was definitely the red sea crossing? Why would I be benefited by believing his added stories about things he found? It's pseudographical as it doesn't always harmonoze with scripture.
@@BBB1980. I wasn't saying rule worth only our senses. I was stating that we can't make the rules and God follow them, it's quite the opposite when it comes to the mosaic ceremonies . There's lots of stories in the Bible of people who were true prophets, but went off track later in life. Not saying Ron was a prophet, but a man God had used, but this may be the case with Ron Wyatt, that he got fooled by some other stuff and attributed it to God. It doesn't matter how sincere you are, if your wrong your wrong...
The typology was provided during the Atonement as descriptive of Christ's work in heaven now, and the Bible tells that Christ is officiating (with His blood) in the temple not made with hands. There is only one moment in time in which the blood from the Lamb of God would possibly intersect the Mercy-seat on earth and that was at Passover in Christ's day, because Christ is the Passover for us. That possibility is in God's hands, and for His purposes. There is greater strength in Ron's account than any of the nay-sayers, and until God reveals the location and allows it to be seen by everyone, I'll wait and not judge against Ron for his experience. If God was leading him, then any and all of what he says is possible. Even if he misunderstood some details, it doesn't negate that God provided him with a most interesting series of great finds. I'll let God be the judge of such things. Ron was a humble person, and he spoke from his personal experience as well as from his own Bible study.
No man who is guilty of breaking 10 comandments can not stand alive in front of Mercy seat. This make a question why some of adventist that wanted to see it and make report did not succeed. Think about it. And they use to speek bad about Ron after. So it could be the reason. But, also they not beeing Aron descend. Which Ron could be. His mother was Jewish, and she could be (like Maria and Elizabeth) one of Aron's daughters. This is just me guessing. I found it speeks a lot about Ron's character that he never spoke bad about those adventists from famous media and possibility that, they were not perfect keepers of low. Just remember that those 10000$ was given to the Ron (who was in need) by mother of that man, who speaks bad of Ron, not himself.
I believe the ark of the covenant will one day be revealed. In fact, I think it may just happen after probation closes. But it will come out! All these nay sayers will be very surprised.
@@marcomonti4231I agree brother, or it could be shown before the close of probation, during the loud cry/latter rain as an additional argument to bring back souls to Christ.
Not going to agree with this one. I watched hours and hours of different videos and I think Ron told the Truth. Am I fooled ? Don’t think so. Walter and Francisco are far too busy to spent the time I spend on the discoveries of Ron and different people who have backed him up.
@@glennbrooks3449 Once you see error in one of his deceptions why watch anymore. They all come from the Father of Lies. Wyatts so-called discovery on the Ark of the Covenant is so obviously a lie.
Wow, this blows my mind. I saw the videos. I was convinced that was the ark. It really looks like it. I was never sold on the ark of the covenant however. Hearing these two favorite pastors of mine for years, I am truly shocked. I’m not sure what I’m feeling right now. Confused, I suppose. I really thought they would see the results in a positive way. Guess not. Wow….. just wow. 😢
@@prophecyfulfilling so you ignore all the work he has done and condemn it all for a statement made by him because he lacks understanding on what you believe . He is human and not perfect. If he is right about the Ark under the crucifixion site , the blood landing on the mercy seat , it would line up with the crack being recorded , the blood being recorded coming from his side and the words of Jesus saying it is finished in the bible . He now his our high priest and the job of the high priest was once a year to bring blood to the inner room , to the mercy seat. If Jesus’s blood was put there it would be an offering forever. Just my thoughts. Whether they are right or wrong I am not sure. But one thing I am sure of is there is evidence out there supporting Ron. Whether I am fooled , will have to be revealed later if God is willing.
@ that’s the old covenant, done away with Jesus. Jesus was the lamb prophesied about thru the Old Testament prophets. That’s why it said it was finished. God promised a redemption right away from the time Adam and Eve fell. 4000 years later Christ payed the price. No more animals sacrifices needed.
Ron Wyatt said the blood contains 23 chromosomes from his mother Mary and 1 chromosome from His father God,giving His masculinity. So no problem for circumcision. As about the blood on the Mercy Seat, Hebrews 9:12.
That makes Him 1/2 human 1/2 God. Unbiblical heresy. Also why didn't He anoint the Candlestick, altar of incense, table of showered? Also atonemnet in the Day of Atonement isn't complete until the blood is put on the live goat... But of course He is mixing up feats and typology here in doing Yom Kippur things on Passover. Also - what did Wyatt do with thr ten commandments he touched? Also why was he allowed to touch the table of showbread? Lastly, why would he be allowed to set a vhs cassette ONTOP of the Ark? Seems irreverent....because He said angels were guarding it. Almost seems a little Uzzah-ish. But I say that because I think the whole thing is delusional and unbiblical.
That verse if read in NKJV wrong says Most Holy Place....that is a completely wrong reading. The maniscript is hagua (Holy Place) not hagia hagion (Most Holy Place) But also that verse is about Christ's ascension into heaven...not his bloods descenion into the earth.
Yeshua's blood came to be on the right side of the Ark of the Covenant also known as The Mercy Seat because of the earthquake at his death. The ark was 30 ft below the Crucifixion site in a cave, which is where Ron Wyatt found it. I have been there. It's called Jeremiah's Grotto and it's located next to the Garden tomb and Golgotha which is where the Arab bus station is. Right outside Damascus gate. Scripture says he was buried outside of the Gates of the city. The plasma that was produced from the Roman soldiers spear dripped down into the crevice and ended up on The Mercy Seat . There's nothing too great for the god of Israel
After recently reading Matthew, this dialogue reminds me of the "Torah-teachers" who tried to keep evidence of JESUS'S resurrection a secret by spreading the opposite information. Matthew 28/29 I believe. I ain't saying anything I don't know or can't prove, but that's where this lands in my spirit 🙌⬇️
those people in the scriptures who even SAW the ark of the covenant uncovered died...therefore Ron Wyatt did not see any such thing, forget touching such a holy item and surviving
@@urlyadoptr your statement shows lack of knowledge why it was even preserved for such a time as the national Sunday law. How much research did you really do? Not much I believe. You don’t even know how many died trying to get it out. However I can accept your unbelief . That’s fine . That’s your call. But give me some real evidence that he lied .
The Bible says that before Mary and Joseph came together she was already pregnant. If you had listened you wouldn't have heard my brother say that there was one why but it was not from an earthly male.
I fully believe the discoveries of Ron Wyatt to be accurate and true. Walter says that the blood of the sacrifice was never sprinkled on the ark during the Passover. Well that is correct. It was sprinkled on the sacrificial alter. This took place when Jesus was on the cross. His blood flowed down the cross (alter), and then down onto the ark which was below.the cross. This had to take place as the Lord's blood had to be sprinkled on the ark before the Day of Atonement as Jesus was not here to carry this out. Walter, no matter which way you try to discredit Ron Wyatt, your story makes no sense. How about Ron's discovery of the Red Sea Crossing site? Why do you omit to comment on that discovery? Sorry Walter, I rather believe Ron Wyatt than you. You also teach that there are some folk already in heaven. When I gave you Biblical evidence to the contrary, you deleted my post. Rather deceitful of you. And your friend Francois is another piece of work.
th-cam.com/video/fjLdqazs_E4/w-d-xo.html this video link proves otherwise than walter and francois rude behavior they must expect a huge backlash for this and being cancelled
I do not believe in God or Jesus because of archeology. I believe God's Word as it has shown me the truth and convicted my heart. I know that archeology is needed for some to believe so i try not to degeade it for that reason, even though it IS a way satan has utilized GREATLY to deceive us. I don't think God would really enable us to have the Ark of the Covenant OR Noahs ark, either, in this day and age. Of course, that's not scientific. Just a conviction i sense when I've prayed about it. People chasing dna and wood and stone and metal "evidence" when they really need to be opening their hearts daily to let Jesus in and finish the work so he can return! Just getting refined in character to fulfill Mathew 5:38-48 is enough work for me to do. Or to truly and fully forgive those who do evil against us for it is written that if we do not forgive those who trespass aganst us, neither will our father who is in heaven forgive our trespasses againat HIM! Yet people harbor resentments and bury them constantly rather than forgive. I dont need some dna test to prove that Jesus exists or that he is the son of Father God. For me, it's a waste of time to even think about it. 🙏
It is wrong to condemn and man, will him having no opportunity to speak the other side. There is another side about the story of Danny Shelton. Do you remember Nebuchadnezzar asking the three Hebrews Is this true that you did not bow down to my image.
Danny did not succeed to the Mercy seat. Could it be that God has mercy on him? And the money borrowed to the Ron who was in need, was not from Denny but from his mother, am I right? Think about it. 6 Jewish man have died in trying to get to the Arc
Jesus died outside of the santuary. The atonement is made in the sanctuary, in the Most Holy Place, both in type and antitype. The ark was never outside the sanctuary for the day of the atonement in the typical service. How come all of a sudden it was under the cross of Calvary for the sacred blood of our Lord to drip on? This fact alone states that Ron Wyatt was deceived: Leviticus 16:2, 17, 33 (KJV) And the LORD said unto Moses, Speak unto Aaron thy brother, that he come not at all times into the holy place within the vail before the mercy seat, which is upon the ark; that he die not: for I will appear in the cloud upon the mercy seat. And there shall be no man in the tabernacle of the congregation when he goeth in to make an atonement in the holy place, until he come out, and have made an atonement for himself, and for his household, and for all the congregation of Israel. And he shall make an atonement for the holy sanctuary, and he shall make an atonement for the tabernacle of the congregation, and for the altar, and he shall make an atonement for the priests, and for all the people of the congregation.
One more question my friend, have you went to the ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah. I have I have Dug sulfur balls which the dictionary says is brimstone. Come with me and we can climb the real Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia. Are you can go with me to the split Rock that Moses hit. Surely you would be able to say we're on Wyatt did find something. The Turkish government didn't make a visitor center saying that this was Noah's Ark. Maybe you could ask them to show you what was found to prove that it was Noah's Ark.
😂In Jesus' Name, Ron Wyatt did not discover anything or claim too but rediscovered things of old for there is nothing new under the sun it has already been of time of old. What is it to you if Jesus Christ picked Ron Wyatt or have you forgotten it is written Jesus uses the base things of this world to confound the wise. I'll stand with Ron Wyatt if everyone is against him for God so loved the world Amen and Amen. Shame on you Walter Vieth faith is the belief of things unseen.
Leviticus 16:11-17 KJV And Aaron shall bring the bullock of the sin offering, which is for himself, and shall make an atonement for himself, and for his house, and shall kill the bullock of the sin offering which is for himself: [12] And he shall take a censer full of burning coals of fire from off the altar before the LORD, and his hands full of sweet incense beaten small, and bring it within the vail: [13] And he shall put the incense upon the fire before the LORD, that the cloud of the incense may cover the mercy seat that is upon the testimony, that he die not: [14] And he shall take of the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he sprinkle of the blood with his finger seven times. [15] Then shall he kill the goat of the sin offering, that is for the people, and bring his blood within the vail, and do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it upon the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat: [16] And he shall make an atonement for the holy place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions in all their sins: and so shall he do for the tabernacle of the congregation, that remaineth among them in the midst of their uncleanness. [17] And there shall be no man in the tabernacle of the congregation when he goeth in to make an atonement in the holy place, until he come out, and have made an atonement for himself, and for his household, and for all the congregation of Israel.
@@heatherprice588 for some reason my comment was deleted . Seems to be common on this site. Your comment does not make sense to say Ron found a lot of things sudden. Do some research instead and you will see his discoveries took a lot longer then all of a sudden.
The greatest embarrassment this church has is those who preach the Trinity… how can they preach anything else than what God revealed to the pioneers…? See the 1872 statements of beliefs. Changes were prophesied 1SM204…
I believe Ron Wyatt story 100%
Amen brother
@@eugenepelle4790 the only thing involving humans I can believe 100% is what's written in Scripture.
@@prophecyfulfilling Thank you for sharing. 2nd Baruch chapter 6 seems to confirm where Ron found the ark. As for Walters views. I enjoy Walters teachings but have found a few things that he promotes that are different than my understanding. The Great Red Dragon in Revelation 12 is one I know for fact is a celestial body and it is almost upon us. Here are the verses in 2nd Baruch 6:4 And I saw, and behold, there were standing four malakim at the four comers of the city, each of them with a burning torch in his hands.
6:5 And another malak came down from heaven and said to them, "Hold your torches and do not light them before I say it to you.
6:6 Because I was sent first to speak a Word to the earth and then to deposit in it what YAHWEH, the Most High, has commanded me."
6:7 And I saw that he descended in the Kodesh of HaKodesh and that he took from there the veil, the kodesh ephod, the mercy seat, the two tables, the kodesh raiment of the kohenim, the altar of incense, the forty-eight precious stones with which the kohenim were clothed, and all the kodesh vessels of the tabernacle.
6:8 And he said to the earth with a loud voice: Earth, earth, earth, hear the Word of the ALMIGHTY YAHWEH, and receive the things which I commit to you, and guard them until the last times, so that you may restore them when you are ordered, so that strangers may not get possession of them.
As for the Great Red Dragon here is a short excerpt from an 8-hour video revealing the coverup by NASA as well as one of the names in modern times have been given it. From the ancient scrolls it should soon pass over the Sun and cover 1/5 of the sky above. th-cam.com/video/a5TsF7ciXyA/w-d-xo.html
When you study the book of Revelation chapter 12 it is regarding events in heaven. I learned about the Great Red Dragon in 1973-1974 when my 5th grade class was placed in a government pilot program. The instructors seemed to not understand it's connection to prophecy though. As they were teaching us about what is now at the door I would go home and compare what we were being taught to the Revelation. The heralds of its approach are being felt all over the world now.
As for the Ark of the Covenant, it never left Jerusalem. It would also seem Walter has not watched Ron Wyatts discovery in full. 24 chromosomes were found in the blood. 23 from Mary and one Y chromosome from Yah.
Maranatha!
@@prophecyfulfilling Thank you for sharing. 2nd Baruch chapter 6:4 And I saw, and behold, there were standing four malakim at the four comers of the city, each of them with a burning torch in his hands.
6:5 And another malak came down from heaven and said to them, "Hold your torches and do not light them before I say it to you.
6:6 Because I was sent first to speak a Word to the earth and then to deposit in it what YAHWEH, the Most High, has commanded me."
6:7 And I saw that he descended in the Kodesh of HaKodesh and that he took from there the veil, the kodesh ephod, the mercy seat, the two tables, the kodesh raiment of the kohenim, the altar of incense, the forty-eight precious stones with which the kohenim were clothed, and all the kodesh vessels of the tabernacle.
6:8 And he said to the earth with a loud voice: Earth, earth, earth, hear the Word of the ALMIGHTY YAHWEH, and receive the things which I commit to you, and guard them until the last times, so that you may restore them when you are ordered, so that strangers may not get possession of them.
6:9 For the time has arrived when Yerusalem will also be delivered up for a time, until the moment that it will be said that it will be restored forever.
6:10 And the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up.
I like Walter but he should not comment on something he hasn't deeply studied. My understanding is different than Walters. Revelation 12 are events in heaven. The Great Red Dragon aka Dragon aka Doomshape aka Doomdragon aka The Destroyer, is a celestial object which Yah uses to render judgement upon the earth, Soon the earth will be rent asunder as Isaiah had proclaimed. It will wobble like a drunkard and when the stars change their stations the tsunamis follow. Men's hearts will fail them for looking upon the things that are coming upon the earth for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. The heralds that precede the Great Red Dragon's Passover are being felt around the world. Sadly, few truly seem to understand what is about to occur. Here is just one example on how much you have been lied to. th-cam.com/video/a5TsF7ciXyA/w-d-xo.html
@@prophecyfulfilling 2 BARUCH 6
6:1 Now it happened on the following day that, behold, an army of the Chaldeans surrounded the city. And in the evening I, Baruch, left the people, went outside, and set myself by an oak.
6:2 And I was grieving over Zion and sighed because of the captivity which had come upon the people.
6:3 And behold, suddenly a strong ruach lifted me and carried me above the wall of Yerusalem.
6:4 And I saw, and behold, there were standing four malakim at the four comers of the city, each of them with a burning torch in his hands.
6:5 And another malak came down from heaven and said to them, "Hold your torches and do not light them before I say it to you.
6:6 Because I was sent first to speak a Word to the earth and then to deposit in it what YAHWEH, the Most High, has commanded me."
6:7 And I saw that he descended in the Kodesh of HaKodesh and that he took from there the veil, the kodesh ephod, the mercy seat, the two tables, the kodesh raiment of the kohenim, the altar of incense, the forty-eight precious stones with which the kohenim were clothed, and all the kodesh vessels of the tabernacle.
6:8 And he said to the earth with a loud voice: Earth, earth, earth, hear the Word of the ALMIGHTY YAHWEH, and receive the things which I commit to you, and guard them until the last times, so that you may restore them when you are ordered, so that strangers may not get possession of them.
6:9 For the time has arrived when Yerusalem will also be delivered up for a time, until the moment that it will be said that it will be restored forever.
6:10 And the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up.
I’m a big fan of Walters Ministry but he has points wrong here. 1. The blood that was tested DID have 1 male chromosome-which made the Lord a male. So he is surprisingly wrong there. 2. The original Passover was exactly that, a typology for the blood of the lamb Jesus being shed and also the future sealing of God’s people. The difference with the actual event of Jesus’ death is that it is the fulfilment of the typology and the end of the Judaic sacrificial system of Moses. There is no violation of the original typology but the fulfilment. It makes full sense and is logical the that the blood of Jesus would land on the Mercy seat…Jesus then ascended to the Father to validate acceptance of His sacrifice. According to sacrificial protocol, the sacrificial blood must fall onto the mercy seat. Does it not make spiritual and biblical sense that the blood of God’s dear Son would complete the process God gave us??
So I am surprised by Walter’s arrogance about this matter. The SDA church rejected Ron yet he preached the 3 Angel’s messages faithfully. God and time will judge and reveal the truth. 🙏 Sleep well Ron from your labours which shall follow you. 🙏
So where are the results of this blood test? Surely that would make world news. Something that big has to be verified doesn’t it? I’m just asking, it just doesn’t add up from what I’ve heard.
@@billytekahika9843 Amen brother
@@user-ky2xo2ls4mnot everything significant makes the global headlines (...and this is not accidental)
Walter Veith likes to keep his personal conspiracy theories alive, so when Ron Wyatt discovers real historical facts, he gets upset.
Behold the Great Red Dragon aka the Destroyer th-cam.com/video/a5TsF7ciXyA/w-d-xo.html
Normally, I defer to Walter, however, he is EXACTLY incorrect about what Wyatt said about the y Chromosome. Wyatt stated that the Y chromosome was present, but rest of the chromosomes from a human father were not present.
That still makes Him non human! He created a new theology with this whole ordeal. Jesus was FULLY human and FULLY God. Not half human and half God.
@@BBB1980. Please reconsider carefully. I've come to the conclusion that Ron Wyatt was one hundred percent correct.
Jesus was as human as you and I are. The Y chromosome which was supplied from the Father was necessary for Jesus to become a male. All of His human attributes came through Mary's twenty three chromosomes. Now consider this thought: if Jesus had forty six chromosomes, twenty three from Mary, but where would the other twenty three come from? Jesus didn't have an earthly father, so God would've had to give Jesus twenty three instead of just that one sex-determining Y chromosome. Now would you agree with me that God never creates anything less than perfect. God wouldn't have given Jesus the twenty three age-degenerated missing chromosomes. And God obviously didn't give Jesus twenty three perfect chromosomes which would be the only other option. And people don't realize that had God given Jesus these other twenty three perfect chromosomes, them He certainly wouldn't have been exactly the same as us, after all, which of us has a perfect set of chromosomes? Adam would've had them, but Jesus came with our nature, not Adam's. Also, something else to think about. Jesus was born of a virgin. Do you know anyone else born of a virgin? If you do, please get a sample of their blood so we can do a chromosome count.
I know this is a lot to take in, but I hope I explained clearly enough.
Amen brother
@@BBB1980.Jesus had all his mothers human qualities and one Y chromosome that came from God. That's the result of the laboratory tests on the blood of Jesus Christ taken from the mercy seat by Ron Wyatt. The blood was still alive. There is no reason to doubt Ron Wyatt. He found the Red Sea crossing, the real Mt Sinai, Sodom and Gomorrah, Noah's Ark and the Ark of the Covenant. All his work was inspired by God in answer to prayer. Ron asked God to give him the mission of finding proof of the Bible to help people to believe. He spent over a million dollars of his own money doing God's work. He encountered many miracles that enabled him succeed in his work. He had not motive to undertake this work other than the will of God. He informed the Israeli authorities of his discovery of the Ark of the Covenant. It was supernaturally pointed out to him where the location was. His arm just shot out and pointed to where is was and the words just came from his mouth; that where the Ark was hidden. He spent many years hard work and found it under the crucifixion site. There are four angels guarding the Ark and six soldiers were killed when they tried to remove it. Ron had to retrieve their bodies. The Ark will be revealed in God's time. Ron has placed a video which he took in the Ark to prove his story is true. He said it will be revealed when the Sunday Laws are enforced. Ron Wyatt is a man of God. His discoveries are on TH-cam videos for all to see.
@@marcomonti4231I completely agree - I posted my comment above. Moreover I’m surprised by Walter’s and Francois arrogance displayed here. And I am a great admirer of Walters but he has this wrong.
I have a great deal of respect for Walter Veith; his messages years ago were very powerful in solidifying me in the truth I hold so dear today! However I am very perplexed by the position he has taken against Ron Wyatt. When I first heard his answer on this question, it initially detoured me from looking any deeper into this topic. More recently however I have had a strong desire to look into the validity of Ron Wyatt much deeper, and here I am revisiting the comments that once concerned me. I see now that, unfortunately, Ron Wyatt was completely misquoted. When explaining the tested blood Ron Wyatt always made it clear that there was a male Y chromosome making Jesus fully male. As for the second point against Ron, a violation of typology, I do not believe this is fair. Please consider that Jesus was not only our high priest, but our sacrificial lamb, a merging of two types. This is made very clear by Ellen White in the following quotation:
“Christ fulfilled still another feature of the type. “His visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men; so shall he sprinkle many nations.” [Isaiah 52:14, 15.] In the temple service, when the animal brought as a sacrifice was slain, the high priest, clothed in white robes, caught in his hand the blood that gushed forth, and cast it in the direction of the tabernacle or Temple. This was done seven times, as an expression of perfection. So Christ, the great antitype, Himself both High Priest and Victim, clothed with His own spotless robes of righteousness, after giving His life for the world, cast the virtue of His offering, a crimson current, in the direction of the Holy Place, reconciling man to God through the blood of the cross.12LtMs, Ms 101, 1897, par. 34”
Notice that she states that a crimson current (his blood) was cast in the direction of the most holy place. Is it possibly that God inspired her pen to write these words the way she did in 1897, knowing that in the future he would surprise us with additional light? When I look at the complexity of all God has made, and his perfect attention to detail that I can scarcely wrap my mind around; when I note that God even asked Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac on the same spot that he would give Jesus (his only son), I am left in amazement! I must leave room in my heart for the possibility that God actually directed his people to hide the ark under the exact spot that Jesus would die years later. Could it be that not only was Jesus’s death symbolic, but a literal typology as well: both with literal blood atoning for our sins on the mercy seat, and with his sacrifice being offered in the presence of the sanctuary?
I realize that Ron made claims that cannot be substantiated, but we are not told to immediately reject any new light, but rather to test the spirit and if it speak not according to the word of God it has no light in it. After listening to countless hours of Ron’s testimonies, of the witnesses of his friends, family, and traveling companions, I see a man who placed his trust in God. A man that humbly gave God all the credit for any discovery that he was shown. A man that was driven by a desire to show the world that the Bible is not a book of fables, but of real events and places that existed and continue to have lessons we can learn from today! Never have I heard him speak against the Bible or the spirit of prophesy, and continually I have seen him point to Gods law as the standard of righteousness. No man is perfect, but Ron certainly seemed to live the truth he preached to others.
It is important to note that God gives us plenty of evidence in the Bible and in the spirit of prophesy to hang our faith upon, but other things are often difficult to understand or even meant for a later time.
As for Ron’s other discoveries, it is impossible to deny these places exist at this point. Many researchers have gone on to explore these sites in more depth. Dozens of credible videos are circulating on the internet showing the detailed reports and video footage of the places Ron visited. It was simply unfair for Duplesis to say that none of Wyatt’s discoveries were credible. As someone who very much values Walter Veith, I hope that he will revisit this issue with an honest heart and much prayer. There is so much more to say, but I will conclude with a few quotes of interest. Although I do believe that God has a great original in Heaven, please note that Ellen White states that the tablets of stone in the earthly ark will also be revealed in God’s appointed time.
“Before the temple was destroyed, God made known to a few of His faithful servants the fate of the temple, which was the pride of Israel, and which they regarded with idolatry, while they were sinning against God. He also revealed to them the captivity of Israel. These righteous men, just before the destruction of the temple, removed the sacred ark containing the tables of stone, and with mourning and sadness, secreted it in a cave where it was to be hid from the people of Israel, because of their sins, and was to be no more restored to them. That sacred ark is yet hid. It has never been disturbed since it was secreted.”-4SG 114, 115 (1864); The Spirit of Prophecy 1:414 (1870); The Story of Redemption, 195.
“Among the righteous still in Jerusalem, to whom had been made plain the divine purpose, were some who determined to place beyond the reach of ruthless hands the sacred ark containing the tables of stone on which had been traced the precepts of the Decalogue. This they did. With mourning and sadness they secreted the ark in a cave, where it was to be hidden from the people of Israel and Judah because of their sins, and was to be no more restored to them. That sacred ark is yet hidden. It has never been disturbed since it was secreted.”-Prophets and Kings, 453 (published in 1917); emphasis supplied.
“The precious record of the law was placed in the ark of the testament and is still there, safely hidden from the human family. But in God’s appointed time He will bring forth these tables of stone to be a testimony to all the world against the disregard of His commandments and against the idolatrous worship of a counterfeit Sabbath.”-Ms 122, 1901 (The S.D.A. Bible Commentary 1:1109).
I respect Walter Veith a lot. However, it does not mean he gets everything right.
Ron did say that there was a Y chromosome.Pastor V needs to take a listen again to his testimony.
It could be that Ron Wyatt got it right. Only time will tell. I will not join Pastor Veith and condemn Wyatt’s testimony. I will wait and see how it all turns out.
If he were an accomplished archeologist, many ppl will have believed. To many people, it is unbelievable that a novice like Ron could find all those biblical landmarks one after the next, while accomplished archaeologists ( Christians or not) failed to discover them. God many times work with the unqualified. As a result, those individuals have nothing to boast about. E G White didn’t reach far in school yet she has written many inspiring books etc. She did not study theology nor had a long list of titles behind her name but she has won many souls to Jesus via her books. Jesus came and He claimed to be the Messiah but the ‘educated’ Jews did not believe Him. He did not have a long list of accomplishments according to their culture. He didn’t have pomp and riches. For many even today, only time will tell.
The safest route anyone should take is to give it time and see how things unfold.
What settles it for me is the unbiblical claim Wyatt made that the blood of Christ dripping onto the mercy seat completed the atonement. That's not supported in Scripture. Jesus still ministers his blood today before the heavenly ark of the covenant.
That's exactly! Professor Weith is brilliant but by his answer on this topik, he actually showed that he did not have researched much. Biological argument goes down, and in mine opinion tipological also. Why shouldn't blood from real Lamb sprinkle on real arc of the covenant?! On contrary, it is so in line with Bible.
@@sanjaljucovic2179 Passover lamb blood was never taken into the most holy place where the ark was. High Priest only approached ark of covenant once a year. Not during Passover but some 6 months later during Yom Kippur
I agree with you . These people have not spent enough time researching this one.
My first thought was that exactly, Wyatt did specify a Y chromosome, Vieth didn’t look too closely before writing the guy off.
Ron Wyatt is 110% true on his Ark of the Covenant finding and all though I love Dr Veith's work on Islam Vatican connections he is an ostrich head in the sand of oblivion concerning Ron Wyatt and the angels Ron met when he was led to discover the Ark of the Covenant
Matt 11:25
There was no blood on the Mercy Seat on Passover because maybe only Christ’s blood (literally)was supposed to be sprinkled there, once and forever.
That's why in Matthew 27 the veil ripped apart at passover while Jesus died and spilled his blood. The veil ripped means it was the last Atonement.
The place where the Ark is declared to be, is also ok with the information we have from Sop, that states it was hidden by sacred hands the night before Babilonian invasion so it must be not far from the Temple, and a cave with it’s entrance blocked with stones is mentioned. Michel Rood has a pretty interesting theory of how that happened and you can find it on youtube. Ellen White also stated that the Ark is still hidden in the same place, and so will be till Sunday low. I believe everything fits pretty well.
SOP does not say the Ark is hidden until Sunday Law. Michael Rood is also a false teacher as was Wyatt and his disciples. We should be focusing on the heavenly ministry of Christ in front of the heavenly Ark of the Covenant where His blood is being administered for each one of us NOW!
I don’t know Michel Rood (will look him up) but I believe that Ron was telling the truth and I believe every word of the Spirit of Prophecy.
@@mh1962-u1q You cannot believe in Ron and the SOP at the same time. One is in error. Ron said Jesus only 24 Chromosomes. How can He be our example if that is the case?
@@ourfuturetoday1958Jesus was born of a virgin. Who among us was born from a virgin??? Does that nullify Jesus' humanity??? Why do you expect Jesus to have 46 chromosomes yet He had one earthly parent???
@@danielchidaushe1559 daniel, Good point!
We however find that Galatians 4:24-25 clearly states that Mount Sinai is in Arabia, but tourists who are not familiar with these Scriptures are not taken there for the whole area is cordoned off by the Arabs, exactly how Ronn Wyatt presents it.
I believe 100% Ron’s discoveries.
@@danielscholtz4512 Penny and Joe Caldwell also explore the area and wrote about it
@@danielscholtz4512 it's called jabal al lawz. I was planning to go there with a Muslim guide when covid hit
Hey folks, the Arabs have opened their country and this particular region for tourism, some 3 to 4 years ago. It is no longer "cordoned off!" You can travel there, climb Mt Horeb, visit the cave of Elijah, the altar of Moses, the stones which held the golden calf, and not far away, within sight of that mountain, the metal works in which all the parts of the wilderness tabernacle were cast. The totality of visible evidence is concrete. With the place open for tourism, much more has been found, and continues to be found than Ron ever dreamed of finding! This is a certainty, no longer a guessing matter, though many have a bias against Ron, because of false accusations. God will deal with those who work against Him in any detail.
That kind of behavior, with doubt and casting aspersions against God's messengers, has a long history. It should not be sourced from others who appear to be researching and presenting the truth for this time in earth's history. Ron Wyatt's finds are part of God's planned means of strengthening our faith so we can be ready when He comes. Is it a surprise that we must exercise faith here? We must gain our strength from the Word of God, and not be discouraged by naysayers who are blinded to the truth, and who fail to see what is obvious and has been made open for us to see and know.
Strange.....I am usually with Veith....but this one seems a little off. The issue with chromosome was not correct. The other guy provides absolutely no science and completely writes it off.
I heard a family member (I think) of Wyatt's and they said the SDA conference wrote him off as soon as he said he wouldn't go along with them having someone else take credit for his work.... They told him it would be an "embarrassment" to the church to have him as the "archeologist" because he had no credentials.
Something is fishy here...
That man who supposedly should present Ron's findigs to the public without making an embarrassed SDA
Church, beeing educated archeologist (professor at Andrews) was dr Shea. Ron did not accept that manipulation (if he accepted that he could not stayed alive in front of Mercy Seat later?) but dr Shea never reject a possibility for Durupinar beeing a real thing, a Noach 's Ark. He rejected other Ron's findings. Something indeed is very fishy
I believe 100% that Ron was telling the truth. I was also disappointed in Walter and François.
@@mh1962-u1q Well not as disappointed as I am to know that some people do not read the Spirit of Prophecy. I went to see Ron Wyatt when he visited Australia for talk shows and did not like what i heard and saw. Nowhere is it said that the tables of the law will be brought forth by men as a result of finding them hidden in a cave instead it clearly states that God will reveal the Ark of the Covenant and the tables to view and not man ,after probation has closed for all men. The tables will then be exhibited "as the rule of judgment." So Ron could be seen as a fraud. No wonder he did not reveal them to the world.
"While these words of holy trust ascend to God, the clouds sweep back, and the starry heavens are seen, unspeakably glorious in contrast with the black and angry firmament on either side. The glory of the celestial city streams from the gates ajar. Then there appears against the sky a hand holding two tables of stone folded together. Says the prophet: `The heavens shall declare His righteousness: for God is judge Himself' (Psalm 50:6). That holy law, God's righteousness, that amid thunder and flame was proclaimed from Sinai as the guide of life, is now revealed to men as the rule of judgment. The hand opens the tables, and there are seen the precepts of the Decalogue, traced as with a pen of fire. The words are so plain that all can read them."--GC 639.
So Walter and Francois are correct.
Pienso igual, normalmente estoy de acuerdo en casi todo con Walter Veith, pero en esta ocasión no pienso igual que el.
Dear Professor Veith, I love your work and watch your videos often. But sometimes you seem to fail to study, spectacularly. This is one of those cases. You base your untoward decision and comments against Ron Wyatt on a false statement, using the excuse of "Typology." Please take note of this reference, very much about the typology, and it's not the only one!
"Once a year, on the great day of atonement, the priest entered the most holy place for the cleansing of the sanctuary. The work there performed completed the yearly round of ministration. On the day of atonement, two kids of the goats were brought to the door of the tabernacle, and lots were cast upon them, “one lot for the Lord, and the other lot for the scape-goat.” [Leviticus 16:8, 21, 22.] The goat upon which fell the lot for the Lord was to be slain as a sin-offering for the people. And the priest was to bring his blood within the veil, and sprinkle it upon the mercy-seat, and before the mercy-seat. The blood was also to be sprinkled upon the altar of incense, that was before the veil." {Great Controversy '88 page 419.1}
The representative blood was sprinkled both upon the Mercy-Seat, and scattered before the Ark and Mercy-seat! I do believe that Ron Wyatt had studied that passage many times. On the basis of Typology, I'm forced to accept the evidence which Ron discovered and which the Bible seems to support unquestionably.
Beyond that, the evidence of the Red Sea crossing has been verified by many others, and so has the location of the true Mt Horeb/Sinai. The evidence as currently known, some as recently as 3 years ago found by recent visitors, powerfully proves the identity of that location. You could say, "there are mountains of evidence." Then there is even the New Testament witness to that same mountain by Paul, who visited that same spot.
Galatians 4:24, 25 KJV
Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
In addition, further study on the finding of Noah's Ark has shown that beneath the ground, there are contours and large openings that are entirely consistent with the biblical evidence for Noah's Ark, the structure having been washed downhill and impacted upon large rocks where it is currently lodged. There are plans in development to explore physically beneath the surface to see and photograph whatever they find. I'll stick with the obvious "weight of evidence" as well as what the Bible clearly describes on so many details.
I fully believed in Ron whatt, it was not only Ron whatt who agrees on Noah's ark but other people as well . Plus look into the sanctuary on how the priest usually sprinkled the blood before the ark when the sin offering is offered.
Christ may not have had an earthly father but he had a heavenly Father. This presentation seemed a little anti Wyatt.
But if He was made in all points like as we are, how could He not have both types of chromosomes? He wasn't human if he didn't have both sets. This is new teaching. Not just archeology. During the Passover, blood never was sprinkled on the ark. Nor is it ever suggested as having to happen. Without his "discovery" of the ark and the "blood of Christ" we wouldn't have known the covenant was ratified? Where does it say that is even necessary?
Adventists believe we are in the antitypical Day of Atonement - why would a covenant be ratified during the passover in a Day of Atonement style? He's mixing feasts and skewing the sda teaching of the Investigative Judgement which began at the end of the 2300 evenings and mornings of Daniel 8:14.
Also the New Covenant symbolism switched from animals, altars and temples to Jesus, Communion, and the heavenly sanctuary.
At His death, the curtain was torn! That sanctuary was done! Over. Fulfilled! Even if there was the ark under the cross. Why is there no hint of this being necessary in the Bible or Spirit of Prophecy?
With all due respect, but Wyatt is creating some kind of new theology. That's saying He had a human body but also didn't? That's close to the gnostic Docitists who say He didn't have a body but just the appearance of one.
I'm also curious as to why Wyatt wasn't nockef down to the ground as with every other prophet in the Bible. After that, I have dozens more questions.
I'm not calling him a liar. I'm calling his confused as when I measure it against the Bible it does not add up. God bless you and would love to hear back from you.
I agree. Walter Veith and François du Plessis are doing a fantastic job and I learned a lot thanks to their lectures but what happened here is very sad. Their attitude is not Christian at all. Walter adopts a dogmatic and presumptuous stance regarding the theology. It seems perfectly logical that the blood of Christ was sprinkled on the mercy seat, thus being the antitype, once and for all, of the sprinkling performed on the yearly day of atonement.
His statement also implies that Ron lied. But Ron was a God-fearing, honest man.
Regarding the biological argument, Walter has it completely wrong because Ron never said that the blood had no Y chromosome. Ron said that it had 23 chromosomes from His mother and 1 Y miraculously received, thus 24 chromosomes in total.
François calling Ron “an embarrassment” with a mocking smile was also very disappointing.
We all make mistakes and I pray that the Holy Spirit will make Walter and François realise that they did not give a good example of humility.
Do you believe in the immortality of the soul..Ron claimed the blood was dry but not dead..the arknof the covenant he claimed to have found is not the same as the biblical one..he has pomegranates surrounded the mercy seat..but the bible says crowns surrounded the edge of the ark..theres no mention of the angels holding staffs or wearing bonnets that Ron has added..the bible and SOP do not support his claims.
It's not an attack against Ron Wyatt but rather truth v error..God warns not to add to his word or take away..Rons trying to explain the mystery of Christ's incarnation.
@@mh1962-u1q If you know anything about South Africans, you will know that they are direct and honest. I agree with them. If RW found the ark of the covenant, where is it now? Also, someone else speaking on this, said he was unwell with a raging fever and quite unwell. Did he hallucinate? Maybe. There is a lot of money going into these digs with not much discovery. Ross Paterson has spent multiple thousands on his digs for twenty years or more, donations from people thinking that they are on the edge of a big discovery allegedly. If there was anything to find it would have been found by now imo.
@@mh1962-u1q mh, Yes, Walter has many good things to say, but he goes directly against EGW's writings when talking weird conspiracy theories, and here he shows he is contemptuous of an amateur archaeologist who just following what God has shown us in the Holy Bible.
And the claim of 4 angels guarding the Ark of the Covenant is also accurate as we find the same information in the Sop
Where?
@@BBB1980. I remember something about it. Think it was in one of the many videos I watched. However I never confirmed it so my statement is not worth much. I can remember Ellen White was supposed to have written something about the commandments being revealed. I never noted where she was supposed to have written it. Long winter ahead. I may reveal some videos.
@@glennbrooks3449 Ellen White makes it clear that the 10 Commandments will be brought forth around the time of the Sunday Law, and people will see clearly what God wants, and what man wants. The Mark of the Beast isn't going to be done in secret!
@ thought I read that somewhere or I heard Ron say. Be nice to know where it is in her writings.
@@earlysda It will be brought forth at a time of God's choosing, and the SOP seems to indicate that that time will be a bit after the close of probation. It will confirm our faith, and reveal to those who have turned away from the truth that they made the wrong choice. No one will be converted by the revealing. God has called on us to have faith in His word, and His leading. By doubting biblical evidence, we lose out on heaven. Biblical evidence can be had through a desire for Truth, and seeking for God to guide your study and research.
Ron whyatt did mentioned that the only Y chromosomes present was the one that determined his sex. I totally disagree with Walter on this one. I was so disappointed when they said that Ron Whyatt is an ambarassment to the SDA community. We do have the HOLY SPIRIT that identify the truth to us and not merely human words.
The so called "embarrassment" is on the part of a certain set of persons in the church, who listened to false reports, and chose to echo those false ideas and attempt to discredit Ron Wyatt. Ron's work stands on it's own and the evidence is still there to study. The evidence has greatly expanded and gotten stronger in support since Ron was there!
Ron Wyatt said that the blood he found on the ark had 24 chromosomes and he only got the Y chromosome ( which is the male determining chromosome) from his Heavenly Father . ( sorry Walter but you need to double check your facts here before you present this to other believers)
Here is something interesting that I believe is confirmation from scripture that Jesus’s blood fell on the mercy seat :
1 . The ark of the covenant and its meaning was only applicable to the Jews.
2. Mathew’s gospel was written for a Jewish audience .
3. If you study Mathew’s gospel , you will see that it is written to prove that a Jesus is indeed the messiah ( through proving the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies)
4. One of Ron Wyatt’s statements was that when the centurion stabbed Jesus with his spear , that the blood and water dripped down the crack caused by the earthquake and fell on the mercy seat .
5. I found it very interesting that the only account in the gospels of the earth quake at Jesus’s cruxifixction is recorded in Mathew . ( in my opinion , we need to be sensitive to scripture . There is nothing in Gods word that is not deliberate and everything is for our learning )
sadly, I think it was very disrespectful for Francois to say that "this man is an embarrassment." That does not seem like the character of Christ speaking :(
@@lecoeur1231 I agree he should have instead listed facts
adbsolutely
Agreed!
I would say a teacher of false theology is an embarrassment. May we all be embarrassed for teaching weird and false things. Kellogg was also an embarrassment. Its ok to admit when something is weird and deceptive. Embarrassment is a better word than some would use..
@@BBB1980. strong words are needed from time to time
Well i do support Walter Veith and the Seventh Day Adventist beliefs but most professed christians in this world say the same things about Seventh Day Adventist beliefs as Walter and François said about Ron Wyatt.
Ron Wyatt was a seventh day Adventist, but later disassociated himself from the church.
True, Francois could have given more of a solid basis for why he was rejecting it. Veith did a good job of explaining why Wyatt's claims about the blood don't pass a doctrinal test.
@@NormaHepburn oh. I never knew Ron disassociated himself with the SDA church. I'll have to research that myself.
@@NormaHepburnyes he disassociated but the question to be asked is why? I know do you?
@@prophecyfulfilling I've watched all the evidence from Ron Wyatt and its pretty convincing to me. Everyone gets caught up on the Ark of The Covenant because there's no video evidence like the other discoveries. Again I can understand that because no one can look on the ark and live except one whom God chooses and he obviously chose Ron. So, I'm not going to let envy build up in my mind and heart because God chose Ron and not me or others. Also God even had Henry Gruver meet Ron in Jerusalem in a miraculous way. And anyone who's watched Henry Gruver knows he was a prayer walker and a true man of God. And Michael Rood met Ron and also had signs from God to meet Ron. Everything I've researched in the past 12 years has led me to believe Ron Wyatt was telling the truth. Its really sad to me to see Walter and François write Ron off as con man.
As Dr. Veith said, he has a problem with the "y" chromosome. So, I also say, I have a problem with Dr. Veith's argument; I am also a biologist like him. Dr. Veith said, there was no "y" chromosome, but Ron Wyaat said that THERE WAS A "Y" CHROMOSOME but not of any human. Dr. Veith deteriorated Wyaat's explanation.
@@farwestgarohills3831 thanks for clearing that up
do you have a link to the full presentation please
@@gabriellebrowne1388 th-cam.com/video/JIDNtME9qng/w-d-xo.html
About the 14:45 mark
There is to be in the churches a wonderful manifestation of the power of God, but it will not move upon those who have not humbled themselves before the Lord, and opened the door of their heart by confession and repentance. In the manifestation of that power which lightens the earth with the glory of God, they will see only something which in their blindness they think dangerous, something which will arouse their fears, and they will brace themselves to resist it. Because the Lord does not work according to their expectations and ideal, they will oppose the work. “Why,” they say, “should we not know the Spirit of God, when we have been in the work so many years?” Because they did not respond to the warnings, the entreaties, of the messages of God, but persistently said, “I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing.”Mar 219.2
Foolish post desperate attempt to maintain deception.
@@ourfuturetoday1958 You are SDA and you can't see the importance of finding the ark of the covenant?
@@atenorforjesus Misapplying the Spirit of Prophecy to those who don't believe the lies of Wyatt shows the depth of strong delusions some are under.
@atenorforjesus As an SDA I'm focused on the one in heaven not the one the Lord secreted away on earth so people wouldn't worship it.
The importance is placed upon God writing his laws on our hearts, not on finding a physical object
The account says there was one Y chromosome
You are right and I believe that Ron was telling the truth. I’m very sad about the attitude of Walter and François. But we all make mistakes.
I believe that Ron Wyatt was used by ABBA FATHER. What I hear is sarcasm and a hint of mocking of him. What does the holy Scriptures say about talking in such speech about people. I have never heard Ron Wyatt speak about others in this manner that apposed him.
The Blood was only applied to the Mercy Seat on the Day of Atonement. 14 Nisan was not the Day of Atonement in 31 AD and can never be. If the Blood dripping on the Mercy Seat in 31 AD was a fulfillment of the Mosaic type, what need of a future application of the Blood in Heavenly places?
I’m disappointed in these two men. I believe Ron Wyatt and this will be proven.
I tend to believe Ron Whyatt over these 2 men
This came out of nowhere, whats the real agenda here?
Human reasoning is not trustworthy. Only the wise shall understand.
Ron pointed people to Jesus
These two men remind me of the teachers and scribes of the old times that knew Scriptures but missed Christ completely. That is why Jesus went to common people that would listen to Him. That are not full of themselves. His facts he got wrong. Ron Wyatt said he had 1 Y Chromosome. What Ron Wyatt found will now be revealed in the prophetic Fall season which is exactly right and in line with Yom Kippur. These men are shortsighted and jealous of a humble man like Ron Wyatt. It was prophesied that the Christ would anoint the most holy place in Daniel 9 24. Little humility these days in many church “leaders”
There were 2 Rabbis who claimed to have seen the Ark of the Covenant in 1982 - the same year Ron claimed to have found the Ark.
You condemn yourself, Rom 2, you believe His enemies without talking to him.
I respect much Dr. Veith and listen all his preaching. But here he pulled himself by lying about Ronald Wyaat's (Ron) statement, that there was not "y" chromosome, when Ron stated, "there was".
3:20 +1 Why or 2 how would The ark be at that 3 Location At 4that time
I think God just exposed these 2 men. I am very disappointed .
@@mikedinneen7029 we are all naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account. Hebrews 4:13
I've prayed about it, listened again to Walter and he makes sense when he says that only once a yr the blood was sprinkled on the mercy seat. It wasn't done during the passover feast.
That's powerful, unfortunately it doesn't look good for Ron's theory, we cant make the rules as we go, we follow God's rules.
What Ron found as in the blood is yet to be figured out, but I have to stick with God's set ordinances unaltered.
Ron was sincere, he did find Sodom and Gomorrah, and the red sea crossing, it's possible that after that he may have been duped by the arch deceiver and took him down the garden path... God will be the judge.
I do wish Walter would do an expose of this matter because it does have alot of people, including myself wondering. But thank goodness for this short video... would just like to hear more, but as I said we have to credit Ron with these other amazing discoveries though.
I dunno...we judge by their fruits. How is it 100% accurate He discoverd those other things? We can't rule only with our senses!
Also it's been made a test question almost. Almost like a relic based religion. He creates His own theology & "new light" on the story with every find he made! Why believe the ark had ancor stones? Why believe that was definitely the red sea crossing?
Why would I be benefited by believing his added stories about things he found? It's pseudographical as it doesn't always harmonoze with scripture.
@@BBB1980. I wasn't saying rule worth only our senses.
I was stating that we can't make the rules and God follow them, it's quite the opposite when it comes to the mosaic ceremonies .
There's lots of stories in the Bible of people who were true prophets, but went off track later in life.
Not saying Ron was a prophet, but a man God had used, but this may be the case with Ron Wyatt, that he got fooled by some other stuff and attributed it to God.
It doesn't matter how sincere you are, if your wrong your wrong...
I believe 100% that Ron told the truth. I’m very sad about the unusual dogmatic and presumptuous attitude of Walter and François.
The typology was provided during the Atonement as descriptive of Christ's work in heaven now, and the Bible tells that Christ is officiating (with His blood) in the temple not made with hands. There is only one moment in time in which the blood from the Lamb of God would possibly intersect the Mercy-seat on earth and that was at Passover in Christ's day, because Christ is the Passover for us. That possibility is in God's hands, and for His purposes. There is greater strength in Ron's account than any of the nay-sayers, and until God reveals the location and allows it to be seen by everyone, I'll wait and not judge against Ron for his experience. If God was leading him, then any and all of what he says is possible. Even if he misunderstood some details, it doesn't negate that God provided him with a most interesting series of great finds. I'll let God be the judge of such things. Ron was a humble person, and he spoke from his personal experience as well as from his own Bible study.
Why don't they bring the arc of the covenant out under the tunnel
No man who is guilty of breaking 10 comandments can not stand alive in front of Mercy seat. This make a question why some of adventist that wanted to see it and make report did not succeed. Think about it. And they use to speek bad about Ron after. So it could be the reason. But, also they not beeing Aron descend. Which Ron could be. His mother was Jewish, and she could be (like Maria and Elizabeth) one of Aron's daughters.
This is just me guessing.
I found it speeks a lot about Ron's character that he never spoke bad about those adventists from famous media and possibility that, they were not perfect keepers of low. Just remember that those 10000$ was given to the Ron (who was in need) by mother of that man, who speaks bad of Ron, not himself.
I believe the ark of the covenant will one day be revealed. In fact, I think it may just happen after probation closes. But it will come out! All these nay sayers will be very surprised.
@@marcomonti4231I agree brother, or it could be shown before the close of probation, during the loud cry/latter rain as an additional argument to bring back souls to Christ.
Not going to agree with this one. I watched hours and hours of different videos and I think Ron told the Truth. Am I fooled ? Don’t think so. Walter and Francisco are far too busy to spent the time I spend on the discoveries of Ron and different people who have backed him up.
@@glennbrooks3449 the Lord told me many years ago that Ron Wyatt was the genuine article
Walter and Francois saw quickly it is fake. Being deceived by watching oodles of videos doesn't make it true.
@ that’s your opinion. So now you are effectively calling all of his work fake . Based on your opinion.
@@glennbrooks3449 Once you see error in one of his deceptions why watch anymore. They all come from the Father of Lies. Wyatts so-called discovery on the Ark of the Covenant is so obviously a lie.
I have same problem as you Glenn.Are we fooled ? I dont believe so
Wow, this blows my mind. I saw the videos. I was convinced that was the ark. It really looks like it. I was never sold on the ark of the covenant however. Hearing these two favorite pastors of mine for years, I am truly shocked. I’m not sure what I’m feeling right now. Confused, I suppose. I really thought they would see the results in a positive way. Guess not. Wow….. just wow. 😢
But when someone makes unbiblical claims about the atonement you have to wonder...
@@prophecyfulfilling so you ignore all the work he has done and condemn it all for a statement made by him because he lacks understanding on what you believe . He is human and not perfect.
If he is right about the Ark under the crucifixion site , the blood landing on the mercy seat , it would line up with the crack being recorded , the blood being recorded coming from his side and the words of Jesus saying it is finished in the bible .
He now his our high priest and the job of the high priest was once a year to bring blood to the inner room , to the mercy seat. If Jesus’s blood was put there it would be an offering forever. Just my thoughts. Whether they are right or wrong I am not sure. But one thing I am sure of is there is evidence out there supporting Ron. Whether I am fooled , will have to be revealed later if God is willing.
@@glennbrooks3449
Veith then isnt forgiven in order for any one to receive forgiveness the blood HAD TO BE ON THE MERCY SEAT.ONCE A YEAR.
@ that’s the old covenant, done away with Jesus. Jesus was the lamb prophesied about thru the Old Testament prophets. That’s why it said it was finished. God promised a redemption right away from the time Adam and Eve fell. 4000 years later Christ payed the price. No more animals sacrifices needed.
@ right, Jesus wasn't just any animal sacrifice typologically. He died at the exact hour of the Passover lamb.
Ron Wyatt said the blood contains 23 chromosomes from his mother Mary and 1 chromosome from His father God,giving His masculinity. So no problem for circumcision.
As about the blood on the Mercy Seat, Hebrews 9:12.
The ark was in the most holy place.... Not the "holy place".
That makes Him 1/2 human 1/2 God. Unbiblical heresy.
Also why didn't He anoint the Candlestick, altar of incense, table of showered?
Also atonemnet in the Day of Atonement isn't complete until the blood is put on the live goat...
But of course He is mixing up feats and typology here in doing Yom Kippur things on Passover.
Also - what did Wyatt do with thr ten commandments he touched? Also why was he allowed to touch the table of showbread? Lastly, why would he be allowed to set a vhs cassette ONTOP of the Ark? Seems irreverent....because He said angels were guarding it. Almost seems a little Uzzah-ish.
But I say that because I think the whole thing is delusional and unbiblical.
That verse if read in NKJV wrong says Most Holy Place....that is a completely wrong reading. The maniscript is hagua (Holy Place) not hagia hagion (Most Holy Place)
But also that verse is about Christ's ascension into heaven...not his bloods descenion into the earth.
Yeshua's blood came to be on the right side of the Ark of the Covenant also known as The Mercy Seat because of the earthquake at his death. The ark was 30 ft below the Crucifixion site in a cave, which is where Ron Wyatt found it. I have been there. It's called Jeremiah's Grotto and it's located next to the Garden tomb and Golgotha which is where the Arab bus station is. Right outside Damascus gate. Scripture says he was buried outside of the Gates of the city. The plasma that was produced from the Roman soldiers spear dripped down into the crevice and ended up on The Mercy Seat . There's nothing too great for the god of Israel
4:04 not 1 ?? What of ?
Mt Sinai??
After recently reading Matthew, this dialogue reminds me of the "Torah-teachers" who tried to keep evidence of JESUS'S resurrection a secret by spreading the opposite information. Matthew 28/29 I believe. I ain't saying anything I don't know or can't prove, but that's where this lands in my spirit 🙌⬇️
those people in the scriptures who even SAW the ark of the covenant uncovered died...therefore Ron Wyatt did not see any such thing, forget touching such a holy item and surviving
@@urlyadoptr your statement shows lack of knowledge why it was even preserved for such a time as the national Sunday law. How much research did you really do? Not much I believe. You don’t even know how many died trying to get it out. However I can accept your unbelief . That’s fine . That’s your call. But give me some real evidence that he lied .
If he was righteous he could. Is it that only Aron sons could enter and stayed alive (on Jom Kippur)
We know that Ron's mother was Jewish
@@glennbrooks3449 Read the GC page 639. No man will reveal the Ark of the Covenant and the table of stones to the world!
The Bible says that before Mary and Joseph came together she was already pregnant.
If you had listened you wouldn't have heard my brother say that there was one why but it was not from an earthly male.
@@williamwyatt8846 where are the lab reports now?
I fully believe the discoveries of Ron Wyatt to be accurate and true.
Walter says that the blood of the sacrifice was never sprinkled on the ark during the Passover.
Well that is correct. It was sprinkled on the sacrificial alter. This took place when Jesus was on the cross. His blood flowed down the cross (alter), and then down onto the ark which was below.the cross. This had to take place as the Lord's blood had to be sprinkled on the ark before the Day of Atonement as Jesus was not here to carry this out.
Walter, no matter which way you try to discredit Ron Wyatt, your story makes no sense.
How about Ron's discovery of the Red Sea Crossing site?
Why do you omit to comment on that discovery?
Sorry Walter, I rather believe Ron Wyatt than you.
You also teach that there are some folk already in heaven. When I gave you Biblical evidence to the contrary, you deleted my post. Rather deceitful of you.
And your friend Francois is another piece of work.
I agree with you. I have a lot of admiration for Walter and François but here their attitude is deplorable and presumptuous.
this guy is a non believing believer. Some would say he's just religious nut.
On the day of atonement where did the blood of the goat that represented our Lord and Savior go, Was it not on the mercy seat my brother.
@@williamwyatt8846 yes, beginning in the Fall of 1844, spiritually speaking
th-cam.com/video/fjLdqazs_E4/w-d-xo.html
this video link proves otherwise than walter and francois rude behavior
they must expect a huge backlash for this and being cancelled
Thank you for the link and I agree with you about the rude behaviour. Very sad.
Im beginning to dislike Walter's summons and your clueless friend
I do not believe in God or Jesus because of archeology. I believe God's Word as it has shown me the truth and convicted my heart. I know that archeology is needed for some to believe so i try not to degeade it for that reason, even though it IS a way satan has utilized GREATLY to deceive us. I don't think God would really enable us to have the Ark of the Covenant OR Noahs ark, either, in this day and age. Of course, that's not scientific. Just a conviction i sense when I've prayed about it. People chasing dna and wood and stone and metal "evidence" when they really need to be opening their hearts daily to let Jesus in and finish the work so he can return! Just getting refined in character to fulfill Mathew 5:38-48 is enough work for me to do. Or to truly and fully forgive those who do evil against us for it is written that if we do not forgive those who trespass aganst us, neither will our father who is in heaven forgive our trespasses againat HIM! Yet people harbor resentments and bury them constantly rather than forgive. I dont need some dna test to prove that Jesus exists or that he is the son of Father God. For me, it's a waste of time to even think about it. 🙏
Yes, character transformation is a full time process! No time for distractions.
It is wrong to condemn and man, will him having no opportunity to speak the other side. There is another side about the story of Danny Shelton.
Do you remember Nebuchadnezzar asking the three Hebrews Is this true that you did not bow down to my image.
@@williamwyatt8846 yes it's wrong to condemn. With what measure we use the same will be used against us.
Danny did not succeed to the Mercy seat. Could it be that God has mercy on him? And the money borrowed to the Ron who was in need, was not from Denny but from his mother, am I right?
Think about it. 6 Jewish man have died in trying to get to the Arc
That's an interesting way to say it
Jesus died outside of the santuary. The atonement is made in the sanctuary, in the Most Holy Place, both in type and antitype. The ark was never outside the sanctuary for the day of the atonement in the typical service. How come all of a sudden it was under the cross of Calvary for the sacred blood of our Lord to drip on? This fact alone states that Ron Wyatt was deceived:
Leviticus 16:2, 17, 33 (KJV) And the LORD said unto Moses, Speak unto Aaron thy brother, that he come not at all times into the holy place within the vail before the mercy seat, which is upon the ark; that he die not: for I will appear in the cloud upon the mercy seat.
And there shall be no man in the tabernacle of the congregation when he goeth in to make an atonement in the holy place, until he come out, and have made an atonement for himself, and for his household, and for all the congregation of Israel.
And he shall make an atonement for the holy sanctuary, and he shall make an atonement for the tabernacle of the congregation, and for the altar, and he shall make an atonement for the priests, and for all the people of the congregation.
It is a great story😂. I know people would get carried away.
One more question my friend, have you went to the ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah. I have I have Dug sulfur balls which the dictionary says is brimstone. Come with me and we can climb the real Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia. Are you can go with me to the split Rock that Moses hit. Surely you would be able to say we're on Wyatt did find something.
The Turkish government didn't make a visitor center saying that this was Noah's Ark. Maybe you could ask them to show you what was found to prove that it was Noah's Ark.
It's quite possible he got some of those locations right! Eternity will reveal.
Resesrch more and you will believe😂
Questions and Answers on the Discoveries with Ross Patterson : th-cam.com/video/fjLdqazs_E4/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the link!
He hit the ball out of the park on this one.
It's nice to hear from Francois who met with him personally
@@prophecyfulfillingyes it is! Pretty cool
I notice that my comment has been shadow-banned
@@messenger1 I wonder why that would be? I haven't moderated any of the comments
😂In Jesus' Name, Ron Wyatt did not discover anything or claim too but rediscovered things of old for there is nothing new under the sun it has already been of time of old. What is it to you if Jesus Christ picked Ron Wyatt or have you forgotten it is written Jesus uses the base things of this world to confound the wise. I'll stand with Ron Wyatt if everyone is against him for God so loved the world Amen and Amen. Shame on you Walter Vieth faith is the belief of things unseen.
Leviticus 16:11-17 KJV
And Aaron shall bring the bullock of the sin offering, which is for himself, and shall make an atonement for himself, and for his house, and shall kill the bullock of the sin offering which is for himself: [12] And he shall take a censer full of burning coals of fire from off the altar before the LORD, and his hands full of sweet incense beaten small, and bring it within the vail: [13] And he shall put the incense upon the fire before the LORD, that the cloud of the incense may cover the mercy seat that is upon the testimony, that he die not: [14] And he shall take of the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he sprinkle of the blood with his finger seven times. [15] Then shall he kill the goat of the sin offering, that is for the people, and bring his blood within the vail, and do with that blood as he did with the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it upon the mercy seat, and before the mercy seat: [16] And he shall make an atonement for the holy place, because of the uncleanness of the children of Israel, and because of their transgressions in all their sins: and so shall he do for the tabernacle of the congregation, that remaineth among them in the midst of their uncleanness. [17] And there shall be no man in the tabernacle of the congregation when he goeth in to make an atonement in the holy place, until he come out, and have made an atonement for himself, and for his household, and for all the congregation of Israel.
Yes. This was a once a year ceremony.
3:58 man you not it is not nothing..
Coming from the worst false teachers in the SDA
Shame on you both
Wrong! Get your facts straight!
I have never believed Ron Wyatt he found just to many important things all of a sudden for my liking.
@@heatherprice588 requires a lot of belief
@@heatherprice588 found all of a sudden !! Really shows how much you know .
Correct, but it could be
@@heatherprice588 for some reason my comment was deleted . Seems to be common on this site. Your comment does not make sense to say Ron found a lot of things sudden. Do some research instead and you will see his discoveries took a lot longer then all of a sudden.
Maybe she meant he became well known in a short amount of time
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