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Truth always triumphs, eventually!

The Blood was only applied to the Mercy Seat on the Day of Atonement. 14 Nisan was not the Day of Atonement in 31 AD and can never be. If the Blood dripping on the Mercy Seat in 31 AD was a fulfillment of the Mosaic type, what need of a future application of the Blood in Heavenly places?

TOL, Ron Wyatts finding have been verified by many. Even there is testimony, see Trey Smith channel regarding additional information regarding the Ark. Ron did express that the lab findings showed on 1 male marker. It is important to note that Ron was questioned by the lab because of what he found, and upon returning to ask additional questions at a later time they would not talk to him. I have possibly 50 hours detailing Ron's work. Each time he tells the same story, however, he does waver when pressed to speak of what the angels told him. There is some inconsistency, but I believe he felt pressured to hold to SDA teachings on Sunday law. The continued work of others is astounding as they have found the mould impressions for Ark along with the furnaces used to forge. And yes, Christ, as the lamb, would fulfill all the aspects of an acceptable sacrifice, which includes blood upon the mercy seat. Listening to a Bible study the other day on Genesis 3:15, I thought about Ron's findings. Woman does not have seed. Thus we know that the seed was Christ. It was the Holy Spirit that provide the male chromosome. Christ could be fully God and getting his human attributes from woman. It is a very good Bible study to do. Thus again Ron Wyatt is to be credited not thrown shade upon.

Ron Wyatt said that the blood he found on the ark had 24 chromosomes and he only got the Y chromosome ( which is the male determining chromosome) from his Heavenly Father . ( sorry Walter but you need to double check your facts here before you present this to other believers) Here is something interesting that I believe is confirmation from scripture that Jesus’s blood fell on the mercy seat : 1 . The ark of the covenant and its meaning was only applicable to the Jews. 2. Mathew’s gospel was written for a Jewish audience . 3. If you study Mathew’s gospel , you will see that it is written to prove that a Jesus is indeed the messiah ( through proving the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecies) 4. One of Ron Wyatt’s statements was that when the centurion stabbed Jesus with his spear , that the blood and water dripped down the crack caused by the earthquake and fell on the mercy seat . 5. I found it very interesting that the only account in the gospels of the earth quake at Jesus’s cruxifixction is recorded in Mathew . ( in my opinion , we need to be sensitive to scripture . There is nothing in Gods word that is not deliberate and everything is for our learning )

Foolishness,the church may choose not to punish, should the conference force the church,NOOO

Inaccurate information.

I'm glad I left the church. Make sure your name is on the Lambs book of life, not the GC. 501C3 tax exception church is in bed with the state. This is SDA church. Always about the upper structure protecting their money. Nothing has changed. Gods church is a living body of many people from other churches as well as some in SDA, not the "remnant" SDA people. Very sad to see the lack of love.

Since when is the truth "contrary to Adventist beliefs"?

All you did was say guilty you never said why ?

I have a great deal of respect for Walter Veith; his messages years ago were very powerful in solidifying me in the truth I hold so dear today! However I am very perplexed by the position he has taken against Ron Wyatt. When I first heard his answer on this question, it initially detoured me from looking any deeper into this topic. More recently however I have had a strong desire to look into the validity of Ron Wyatt much deeper, and here I am revisiting the comments that once concerned me. I see now that, unfortunately, Ron Wyatt was completely misquoted. When explaining the tested blood Ron Wyatt always made it clear that there was a male Y chromosome making Jesus fully male. As for the second point against Ron, a violation of typology, I do not believe this is fair. Please consider that Jesus was not only our high priest, but our sacrificial lamb, a merging of two types. This is made very clear by Ellen White in the following quotation: “Christ fulfilled still another feature of the type. “His visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men; so shall he sprinkle many nations.” [Isaiah 52:14, 15.] In the temple service, when the animal brought as a sacrifice was slain, the high priest, clothed in white robes, caught in his hand the blood that gushed forth, and cast it in the direction of the tabernacle or Temple. This was done seven times, as an expression of perfection. So Christ, the great antitype, Himself both High Priest and Victim, clothed with His own spotless robes of righteousness, after giving His life for the world, cast the virtue of His offering, a crimson current, in the direction of the Holy Place, reconciling man to God through the blood of the cross.12LtMs, Ms 101, 1897, par. 34” Notice that she states that a crimson current (his blood) was cast in the direction of the most holy place. Is it possibly that God inspired her pen to write these words the way she did in 1897, knowing that in the future he would surprise us with additional light? When I look at the complexity of all God has made, and his perfect attention to detail that I can scarcely wrap my mind around; when I note that God even asked Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac on the same spot that he would give Jesus (his only son), I am left in amazement! I must leave room in my heart for the possibility that God actually directed his people to hide the ark under the exact spot that Jesus would die years later. Could it be that not only was Jesus’s death symbolic, but a literal typology as well: both with literal blood atoning for our sins on the mercy seat, and with his sacrifice being offered in the presence of the sanctuary? I realize that Ron made claims that cannot be substantiated, but we are not told to immediately reject any new light, but rather to test the spirit and if it speak not according to the word of God it has no light in it. After listening to countless hours of Ron’s testimonies, of the witnesses of his friends, family, and traveling companions, I see a man who placed his trust in God. A man that humbly gave God all the credit for any discovery that he was shown. A man that was driven by a desire to show the world that the Bible is not a book of fables, but of real events and places that existed and continue to have lessons we can learn from today! Never have I heard him speak against the Bible or the spirit of prophesy, and continually I have seen him point to Gods law as the standard of righteousness. No man is perfect, but Ron certainly seemed to live the truth he preached to others. It is important to note that God gives us plenty of evidence in the Bible and in the spirit of prophesy to hang our faith upon, but other things are often difficult to understand or even meant for a later time. As for Ron’s other discoveries, it is impossible to deny these places exist at this point. Many researchers have gone on to explore these sites in more depth. Dozens of credible videos are circulating on the internet showing the detailed reports and video footage of the places Ron visited. It was simply unfair for Duplesis to say that none of Wyatt’s discoveries were credible. As someone who very much values Walter Veith, I hope that he will revisit this issue with an honest heart and much prayer. There is so much more to say, but I will conclude with a few quotes of interest. Although I do believe that God has a great original in Heaven, please note that Ellen White states that the tablets of stone in the earthly ark will also be revealed in God’s appointed time. “Before the temple was destroyed, God made known to a few of His faithful servants the fate of the temple, which was the pride of Israel, and which they regarded with idolatry, while they were sinning against God. He also revealed to them the captivity of Israel. These righteous men, just before the destruction of the temple, removed the sacred ark containing the tables of stone, and with mourning and sadness, secreted it in a cave where it was to be hid from the people of Israel, because of their sins, and was to be no more restored to them. That sacred ark is yet hid. It has never been disturbed since it was secreted.”-4SG 114, 115 (1864); The Spirit of Prophecy 1:414 (1870); The Story of Redemption, 195. “Among the righteous still in Jerusalem, to whom had been made plain the divine purpose, were some who determined to place beyond the reach of ruthless hands the sacred ark containing the tables of stone on which had been traced the precepts of the Decalogue. This they did. With mourning and sadness they secreted the ark in a cave, where it was to be hidden from the people of Israel and Judah because of their sins, and was to be no more restored to them. That sacred ark is yet hidden. It has never been disturbed since it was secreted.”-Prophets and Kings, 453 (published in 1917); emphasis supplied. “The precious record of the law was placed in the ark of the testament and is still there, safely hidden from the human family. But in God’s appointed time He will bring forth these tables of stone to be a testimony to all the world against the disregard of His commandments and against the idolatrous worship of a counterfeit Sabbath.”-Ms 122, 1901 (The S.D.A. Bible Commentary 1:1109).

False doctrine? No sir. There is not one shred of evidence of false doctrine. Everything Dr. Conrad Vine said is supported by the Bible or SOP. I wasn't sure of that, until I looked it up myself and I stood corrected. The cry of False doctrine is a lie. It's a cover for SDA cancel culture. Conrad Vine is a thinker and not a mere reflector of other men's thoughts.

We will continue praying for you and for your family,

I could never believe the boat theory! There should have been some digging into that formation & there never was. There was all kinds of excuses. Pastors D’s explanation makes sense to me, needing wood for shelter. And after 4000 years of exposure to the elements, not much would be left! It sounds fantastic & does make sense to me to have Jesus blood fall on the alter. But it’s safer to keep an open mind on this one. As far as the Y factor, I don’t see how he could be a complete human without it. Scientists don’t always get absolute correct results when there is a devil that interfere with scientific results more than we want to acknowledge!!

Reasons to Believe Ron Wyatt DID find the Ark of the Covenant by Kevin Fisher 1. We have clearly seen that Ron was used by God to uncover the other discoveries, Noah’s Ark, Sodom & Gomorrah, Red Sea Crossing, and Mt. Sinai. From these discoveries, Ron Wyatt’s credibility was established. We know God was using him because he was faithful to the Lord and was chosen to do this work. We should believe him when he said he found the ark. His credibility says we should. 2. Some have said, “Well, God did use Ron on the other discoveries, but he lied about the ark.” If that were true, then Ron would have been out of the will of God in January 1982, when he said he found it. But that is not true. God was still using Ron, because in 1989, he found the Sodom and Gomorrah sites. Ron was still in the Lord’s will after having claimed to have found the ark. 3. If Ron lied about finding the ark and was a fraud, why did he spend $100,000 +, in digging a second tunnel to the cave chamber? If you are a wicked fraud, all you need is one tunnel to the cave and you can tell your hateful lies. But Ron felt that some of the temple furniture was to come out and thus a more direct and wider tunnel was needed. He worked on this second tunnel with volunteers from 1982 to 1989. A huge sacrifice and hard work. A friend of mine worked on the dig with Ron for 3 weeks and he said Ron spent $7,000.00 advancing the tunnel about six to seven feet during that time. Ron also paid for my friend’s airline ticket to Israel. After finishing the tunnel Ron understood that none of the furniture would be coming out as God arranged the furniture as if it is a permanent set-up. 4. To say that God used this good Christian man, performing miracles along the way to help Ron, and using this one person on the other discoveries, and to then say that Ron LIED about finding the ark is totally inconsistent. We see a faithful Christian used by the Lord, but we say he was a huge liar in saying he found the Ark? That is just not consistent with his character and how God used Ron. Common sense says Ron told the truth all through the discoveries and was God’s servant. 5. The ark has to be found. Daniel 9:24 says the Most Holy was to be anointed and put an end to sin, bring in everlasting righteousness, and atone for iniquity. The western side of the ark was left vacant, awaiting the application of Christ’s blood. When did that blood meet the Mercy Seat? How did this happen? Ron’s testimony makes perfect sense and was arranged by God. Ideally if the Jews had accepted Christ, Jesus would have offered Himself one day, on the Passover, and His blood would be taken into the Most Holy Place to be applied on the western side of the Mercy Seat. But the Jews rebelled and God made an alternate plan where Christ at His crucifixion would anoint the Most Holy... and this He did. If I were to vote on the most likely person to find the ark, I would vote on Ron Wyatt since the Lord revealed all the other discoveries through him. Makes sense. 6. Some say, “Well, we have to have two or three witnesses to believe.” In this case that is not true. We are talking about the Most Holy Place on earth. That cave is the Most Holy Place on earth and is not a tourist attraction for many people to enter. Ron never allowed his family or tunnel workers on the digs to peer into the cave. Ron protected it as a Holy Place. In Moses' day, the Most Holy Place was entered only once a year by the High Priest where he would meet God who was hovering over the ark in the form of a light, the shikinah glory, and would sometimes speak to the priest. Did the High Priest bring in other witnesses so the congregation would believe him? No. Did he take in other eyewitnesses or did the people believe him? They believed him. The High Priest was believed by the people as his credibility was previously established and the people recognized that only one eyewitness was necessary. Can we follow this direction today and understand that Ron Wyatt’s credibility was established and that only one person was to enter that cave, the Most Holy Place. Ron preserved the sanctity of that cave by keeping others out. We should be thankful that he did so. 7. Satan wishes that we would not believe and would not spread the word of Jesus’ unique blood and the Ten Commandments being found. Let’s not fall for his temptations and be deceived. Logic says we can believe Ron Wyatt and God’s plan for the ark.

Human reasoning is not trustworthy. Only the wise shall understand.

Dear Professor Veith, I love your work and watch your videos often. But sometimes you seem to fail to study, spectacularly. This is one of those cases. You base your untoward decision and comments against Ron Wyatt on a false statement, using the excuse of "Typology." Please take note of this reference, very much about the typology, and it's not the only one! "Once a year, on the great day of atonement, the priest entered the most holy place for the cleansing of the sanctuary. The work there performed completed the yearly round of ministration. On the day of atonement, two kids of the goats were brought to the door of the tabernacle, and lots were cast upon them, “one lot for the Lord, and the other lot for the scape-goat.” [Leviticus 16:8, 21, 22.] The goat upon which fell the lot for the Lord was to be slain as a sin-offering for the people. And the priest was to bring his blood within the veil, and sprinkle it upon the mercy-seat, and before the mercy-seat. The blood was also to be sprinkled upon the altar of incense, that was before the veil." {Great Controversy '88 page 419.1} The representative blood was sprinkled both upon the Mercy-Seat, and scattered before the Ark and Mercy-seat! I do believe that Ron Wyatt had studied that passage many times. On the basis of Typology, I'm forced to accept the evidence which Ron discovered and which the Bible seems to support unquestionably. Beyond that, the evidence of the Red Sea crossing has been verified by many others, and so has the location of the true Mt Horeb/Sinai. The evidence as currently known, some as recently as 3 years ago found by recent visitors, powerfully proves the identity of that location. You could say, "there are mountains of evidence." Then there is even the New Testament witness to that same mountain by Paul, who visited that same spot. Galatians 4:24, 25 KJV Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. In addition, further study on the finding of Noah's Ark has shown that beneath the ground, there are contours and large openings that are entirely consistent with the biblical evidence for Noah's Ark, the structure having been washed downhill and impacted upon large rocks where it is currently lodged. There are plans in development to explore physically beneath the surface to see and photograph whatever they find. I'll stick with the obvious "weight of evidence" as well as what the Bible clearly describes on so many details.

Jesus died outside of the santuary. The atonement is made in the sanctuary, in the Most Holy Place, both in type and antitype. The ark was never outside the sanctuary for the day of the atonement in the typical service. How come all of a sudden it was under the cross of Calvary for the sacred blood of our Lord to drip on? This fact alone states that Ron Wyatt was deceived: Leviticus 16:2, 17, 33 (KJV) And the LORD said unto Moses, Speak unto Aaron thy brother, that he come not at all times into the holy place within the vail before the mercy seat, which is upon the ark; that he die not: for I will appear in the cloud upon the mercy seat. And there shall be no man in the tabernacle of the congregation when he goeth in to make an atonement in the holy place, until he come out, and have made an atonement for himself, and for his household, and for all the congregation of Israel. And he shall make an atonement for the holy sanctuary, and he shall make an atonement for the tabernacle of the congregation, and for the altar, and he shall make an atonement for the priests, and for all the people of the congregation.

😂In Jesus' Name, Ron Wyatt did not discover anything or claim too but rediscovered things of old for there is nothing new under the sun it has already been of time of old. What is it to you if Jesus Christ picked Ron Wyatt or have you forgotten it is written Jesus uses the base things of this world to confound the wise. I'll stand with Ron Wyatt if everyone is against him for God so loved the world Amen and Amen. Shame on you Walter Vieth faith is the belief of things unseen.

The greatest embarrassment this church has is those who preach the Trinity… how can they preach anything else than what God revealed to the pioneers…? See the 1872 statements of beliefs. Changes were prophesied 1SM204…

Wrong! Get your facts straight!

Ron Wyatt is 110% true on his Ark of the Covenant finding and all though I love Dr Veith's work on Islam Vatican connections he is an ostrich head in the sand of oblivion concerning Ron Wyatt and the angels Ron met when he was led to discover the Ark of the Covenant

Walter veith, Jesus had one y chromosome 'not from a human male ' And Ron was true, I bet my eternal life on it. He taught what God had showed him and only that only God could have arranged. The Adventist church would do good to do the same to teach the truth today as Ron did. That's why God is revealing it through humble ways. (Judgment discoveries with our Truth's) Passover was when the veil in the temple was split open while Christ died on the Cross. God himself typologied it. If the veil in the temple was split then that sufficed the day of atonement to. The Covenant is in that Ark and all must keep it to not be deceived by Satan imitating Jesus in a temple in Jerusalem. Ron Wyatt would never study and speak against these modern evangelists if they had such a claim as his own as they did to him.

Ron Wyatt was a liar. He was a member of our church and was warned about what he was going to claim. He was kicked out of church because he knows that blood of a human does not last 2 thousand years. That is so absurd. It rots and decays just like our bodies do. It turns to dirt. If you believe his lies then you believe he found the Ark of the Covenant. He knew God said no human will ever find it. God had it buried in a cave where no man would ever find it. When Jesus comes, he will bring it up and show the world the law that they have broken. The one that is buried is a replica of the one in heaven in the heavenly sanctuary. Wyatt built the phoney one he said he found. He never found any of what he claimed he did. There all lies. How many others have claimed they found the Ark of the covenant? They are also false, and man made . Ron Wyatt was not in his right mind. Everything Wyatt said was a lie. He couldn't say anything to anyone that opposed to what he was about to do because he was guilty and he will stand guilty before God. A liar will believe a liar, thus saith the Lord.

There were 2 Rabbis who claimed to have seen the Ark of the Covenant in 1982 - the same year Ron claimed to have found the Ark.

this guy is a non believing believer. Some would say he's just religious nut.

Coming from the worst false teachers in the SDA

I do not believe in God or Jesus because of archeology. I believe God's Word as it has shown me the truth and convicted my heart. I know that archeology is needed for some to believe so i try not to degeade it for that reason, even though it IS a way satan has utilized GREATLY to deceive us. I don't think God would really enable us to have the Ark of the Covenant OR Noahs ark, either, in this day and age. Of course, that's not scientific. Just a conviction i sense when I've prayed about it. People chasing dna and wood and stone and metal "evidence" when they really need to be opening their hearts daily to let Jesus in and finish the work so he can return! Just getting refined in character to fulfill Mathew 5:38-48 is enough work for me to do. Or to truly and fully forgive those who do evil against us for it is written that if we do not forgive those who trespass aganst us, neither will our father who is in heaven forgive our trespasses againat HIM! Yet people harbor resentments and bury them constantly rather than forgive. I dont need some dna test to prove that Jesus exists or that he is the son of Father God. For me, it's a waste of time to even think about it. 🙏

I think God just exposed these 2 men. I am very disappointed .

I believe that Ron Wyatt was used by ABBA FATHER. What I hear is sarcasm and a hint of mocking of him. What does the holy Scriptures say about talking in such speech about people. I have never heard Ron Wyatt speak about others in this manner that apposed him.

Shame on you both

You are wrong professor. Ron Wyatt was right.

Hallelujah hallelujah 🙌

Hallelujah hallelujah 🙌

After recently reading Matthew, this dialogue reminds me of the "Torah-teachers" who tried to keep evidence of JESUS'S resurrection a secret by spreading the opposite information. Matthew 28/29 I believe. I ain't saying anything I don't know or can't prove, but that's where this lands in my spirit 🙌⬇️

You condemn yourself, Rom 2, you believe His enemies without talking to him.

These two men remind me of the teachers and scribes of the old times that knew Scriptures but missed Christ completely. That is why Jesus went to common people that would listen to Him. That are not full of themselves. His facts he got wrong. Ron Wyatt said he had 1 Y Chromosome. What Ron Wyatt found will now be revealed in the prophetic Fall season which is exactly right and in line with Yom Kippur. These men are shortsighted and jealous of a humble man like Ron Wyatt. It was prophesied that the Christ would anoint the most holy place in Daniel 9 24. Little humility these days in many church “leaders”

ron wyatt said he had Y chromosome,but not x chroosome,so walter veith is decived and decieving others.its true biblical what ron said

4:04 not 1 ?? What of ? Mt Sinai??

3:58 man you not it is not nothing..

Im beginning to dislike Walter's summons and your clueless friend

I believe Ron Wyatt 100% ,a virgin was conceived,it wasn't through SEXUAL INTERCOURSE...WALTER you're being JUDGEMENTAL

"I agree with Walter, but..." Ah, people, leave those sensational discoveries of Wyatt to rest. Look for the real Savior in the Word of God. If God had wanted us to have tangible proof of such things, He would have provided it long ago. These things are not important and will not lead anyone to faith, because if it is by sight, then it is no longer by faith. Moreover, the real Ark of the Covenant is the one that matters, and it is in heaven, where Jesus ministers on our behalf. Do not focus on drops of blood on a so-called ark. If Wyatt had truly discovered the Ark of the Covenant-which, by the way, is impossible-it would have been the greatest archaeological discovery of all time. Chromosomes or not, that is irrelevant. Seek Jesus in the Word of God and get to know Him personally. That is what truly matters.

Both Walter and this other gentlemen are lying, Ron Wyatt clearly stated that there were twenty three X chromosomes from the mother and just one Y chromosome from the Father which determined the child's sex to be male. The arrogance that they display here, prove that the devil works through them to refute the evidence that Ron Wyatt found. "Many a star that we have admired for its brilliancy will then go out in darkness. Chaff like a cloud will be borne away on the wind, even from places where we see only floors of rich wheat. All who assume the ornaments of the sanctuary, but are not clothed with Christ's righteousness, will appear in the shame of their own nakedness." 5T 81.1 Matthew 24:4: "And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you."

I’m disappointed in these two men. I believe Ron Wyatt and this will be proven.

I believe Ron Wyatt story 100%

Ron whyatt did mentioned that the only Y chromosomes present was the one that determined his sex. I totally disagree with Walter on this one. I was so disappointed when they said that Ron Whyatt is an ambarassment to the SDA community. We do have the HOLY SPIRIT that identify the truth to us and not merely human words.

I fully believed in Ron whatt, it was not only Ron whatt who agrees on Noah's ark but other people as well . Plus look into the sanctuary on how the priest usually sprinkled the blood before the ark when the sin offering is offered.

I’m a big fan of Walters Ministry but he has points wrong here. 1. The blood that was tested DID have 1 male chromosome-which made the Lord a male. So he is surprisingly wrong there. 2. The original Passover was exactly that, a typology for the blood of the lamb Jesus being shed and also the future sealing of God’s people. The difference with the actual event of Jesus’ death is that it is the fulfilment of the typology and the end of the Judaic sacrificial system of Moses. There is no violation of the original typology but the fulfilment. It makes full sense and is logical the that the blood of Jesus would land on the Mercy seat…Jesus then ascended to the Father to validate acceptance of His sacrifice. According to sacrificial protocol, the sacrificial blood must fall onto the mercy seat. Does it not make spiritual and biblical sense that the blood of God’s dear Son would complete the process God gave us?? So I am surprised by Walter’s arrogance about this matter. The SDA church rejected Ron yet he preached the 3 Angel’s messages faithfully. God and time will judge and reveal the truth. 🙏 Sleep well Ron from your labours which shall follow you. 🙏

I respect much Dr. Veith and listen all his preaching. But here he pulled himself by lying about Ronald Wyaat's (Ron) statement, that there was not "y" chromosome, when Ron stated, "there was".

As Dr. Veith said, he has a problem with the "y" chromosome. So, I also say, I have a problem with Dr. Veith's argument; I am also a biologist like him. Dr. Veith said, there was no "y" chromosome, but Ron Wyaat said that THERE WAS A "Y" CHROMOSOME but not of any human. Dr. Veith deteriorated Wyaat's explanation.