How 6 ITEMS CHANGED The META for RANKED! - Predecessor Tier List for V.18

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  • We're a few days away from Ranked coming out, so It felt only right to give you my personal opinion on the current state and meta of the game! Today we rank each and every Hero in Predecessor and explain the ratings, buffs and nerfs in detail!
    Timestamps.:
    0:00 Intro
    0:17 Countess
    0:46 Crunch
    1:15 Dekker
    1:46 Drongo
    2:10 Feng Mao
    2:46 Gadget
    3:21 Gideon
    3:35 Greystone
    3:56 Grux
    4:29 Howitzer
    4:54 Kallari
    5:32 Khaimera
    6:00 Kira
    6:22 Lt.Belica
    6:36 Morigesh
    7:04 Murdock
    7:17 Muriel
    7:53 Narbash
    8:22 Phase
    9:04 Rampage
    9:24 Revenant
    9:42 Riktor
    10:05 Serath
    10:55 Sevarog
    11:16 Shinbi
    11:54 Steel
    12:35 The Fey
    12:52 Twinblast
    13:06 Zarus
    13:17 Sparrow
    13:32 Wraith
    14:15 Iggy & Scorch
    14:53 Kwang
    15:26 Argus
    16:02 Grim.exe
    16:29 Aurora
    17:10 Outro
    Predecessor v0.18 Tier List
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  • @James23585
    @James23585 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nice video man, very helpful thank you. It could be good to have separate tier lists for each specific roles? It would probably be more time consuming but might make it a little bit clearer. Ty

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have that being done separately in my build guide videos! So far only finished the adc one.

  • @nicholasgarcia399
    @nicholasgarcia399 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Feng mao with the brawler crest judgement gives me the most cs quite often

  • @Sicknificant1
    @Sicknificant1 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hell yea! I love iggy midlane. Chunking bottles halway across the lane is op. Love going against morigeshs that are so used to just throwing their Q at you... well Iggy can throw further. By level 4 he can basically resort to just having turrets up, autoing the wave, and throwing every bottle at the opponent. 3 bottles and they have to back or risk being in a gankable healthstate.
    My friends still think he is ass. They also think Shinbi jungle is bad though...
    Tbh my friends have a bit of that "they are good but not near as good as they think they are" thing going on.
    Plat player problems
    But it feels like the ideas for mid/jungle are "you didnt pick gideon? You didnt pick khaimera?? You are throwing"
    I still think it is a very big problem for the game design that only select heros that would normally jungle can solo objectives as early as lvl 3. Thats insane. I come from smite whwre the only person soloing an objective is a near full or full build ADC with sustain like lifesteal.
    I think it is wild that the meta almost dictates that you are harming your team by playing a character that requires your tesm to be there for the objectives... it should just be that way. I feel either everyone that can jungle should be able to solo fangtooth/mini orb, or no one should. At least not prior to level 10/a couple items.

    • @weighcisttv7507
      @weighcisttv7507 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Most jungs can do fang lvl 5 with half an item done tbh, Most just never tried . I do it w serath everyday xd

    • @_chwwey
      @_chwwey 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I still prefer Morg over Iggy never played Iggy yet but Iggy gets annoying so I know his tactics when I'm Morg I'm a beast in Morg 15+ kills each game

    • @_chwwey
      @_chwwey 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I play Morg mid off n support

    • @_chwwey
      @_chwwey 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When someone chooses Morg my next option is gadget she a demon Gideon and khamieara are so easy to play I like to play the one's who are alot harder to play because it makes me understand the character betters with which items they are good at

    • @_chwwey
      @_chwwey 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When Gideon ult his black hole I staste with Morg and gadget

  • @MrBuns-yi2hk
    @MrBuns-yi2hk 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I do think Muriel will be better in ranked where people will actually play around her. I don't know if I would consider her A+, but that might change if I get some good ganes on her.

  • @veghx
    @veghx 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gadget in B is criminal

  • @Zurn187
    @Zurn187 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They drop the balance .18.3 patch before ranked or we play ranked with .18 ?

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ranked will be on 18.3
      Not the best timing for the list but majority of the points still remain. Sucks that this is the time frame I had to put this video out.

  • @son1cpredecessor
    @son1cpredecessor 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    1 day before balance patch? 😄

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I just recently had the time to finalize this video and play enough games to give a good accurate tier-list based off my games. I know it's late - but majority of this will still apply for the next patch as majority of the changes comes from new item interactions, and having 6 item slots.
      This is also going to be the template used going forward, so It will be very helpful for future tier lists, and hopefully the reception to the style I used it well liked.

  • @Pani_Missy
    @Pani_Missy 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sorry can someone explain what "on hit" means please? Thank you.

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Items that do damage/an effect on auto attacks hit hence being called on-hit

  • @Sicknificant1
    @Sicknificant1 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ive been playing predecessor for about a month. I have 200 games. Hit platinum according to omeda city.
    Your videos have been so helpful for learning the game, as well as dealing with the game.
    When i get salty salty teammates it is reassuring and helps me ignore it when i see that someone as good as you still has to deal with it haha. You usually seem to just ignore the chat which is best. Id even recommend new players prob turn it off haha.
    Im not really sure exactly what point im trying to make haha, but thanks for the videos, Empti!

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I love this comment! Hope I can keep providing you informative content and that we all learn together.

  • @regalia9908
    @regalia9908 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don’t play the hero at all, but what caused rampage to fall off so badly?

    • @nicholasgarcia399
      @nicholasgarcia399 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tanking was made worse by adding extra card slot. He's a giant walking hit box. There's like 6 different tainted cards that will nerf his ult. Towers hit harder, too, so diving is difficult. That was his thing.

  • @justinmoonshine3742
    @justinmoonshine3742 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think Morigesh is stronger than iggy, i play both of them a lot and Mori just has way more kill potential and decent enough clear. I would def say iggy has better objective control obviously. But a good Morigesh can poke extremely hard defensively and offensively. And i think Fey is A+ tier. Other than that i 100% agree with this list

  • @x2567x
    @x2567x 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What make zarus broken? I rarely see him get picked

    • @AceMonado
      @AceMonado 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He has built-in Power scaling in his kit. In the current meta, where tank items are not as good, you can scale up your Power as Zarus more reliably. Furthermore, the item changes assist the Bruiser playstyle even more, which is exactly what Zarus wants to be.

    • @Little_Tree_Butt
      @Little_Tree_Butt 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He also has everything a character needs :
      Mobility (dash + it gives him attack speed)
      Ability he can spam and use long range (spear)
      A stun (+ mitigation)
      An ultimate for team fights
      Scaling (ultimate and passive)
      Some regen (passive)
      The only thing he used to lack was his clear was slow, but with the new crest (judgment), his clear is now very good.
      He has no downsides and no bad matchups currently

  • @MrBuns-yi2hk
    @MrBuns-yi2hk 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Shoulda put Rev in D tier. He is so bad right now. The bugged 4th shot doesn't help, but even ignoring that, he is so awful.

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I try to reserve D tier for absolutely unplayable heroes. Didn't want to be TOO mean.

    • @MrBuns-yi2hk
      @MrBuns-yi2hk 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Empti_ Yeah, that makes sense.

  • @hunterwilkie490
    @hunterwilkie490 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have to argue about Murdock he feels so bad to me he feels like 3 items until he does any damage and the rest of his kit really does not make up for it at all

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Murdock will feel a bit bad against a duo-lane that can out-range and out-poke him, therefor needing to scale up until 2-3 Items to when you can all-in a bit better. I definitely understand why you'd think this!

  • @Berserkbushwookiee
    @Berserkbushwookiee 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I only disagree with the Aurora placement she just has way too much CC and it seems the enemy team always has a decent one and I get the worst ones that block my team off during team fights like a dumby 🤣 other than that everything else seems pretty accurate. I’m maining Zarus right now and he’s definitely broken, crunch is my secondary and he’s just all around good.

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I see aurora much alike Fey. Aoe cleanse absolutely counters the majority of her power. I do think she has a high skill ceiling though, and people are bound to only get better at playing her.

    • @jakquinn4207
      @jakquinn4207 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah I cut my mate off a few times last night it’s hilarious but game losing.
      Feels great when you cut that jungle path off and split a 5v5 into a 5v2/3 though.

  • @chrisshaw1854
    @chrisshaw1854 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Aurora is definitely top of A+ tier no way she’s worse than kwang or morigesh??!?

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Morigesh is absolutely insane right now. I can't believe how many people don't realize this.
      Kwang is only slightly better because he's a top 3 offlaner with good matchups all around. The lower CDs allow him to trade much better than 26s and 24s cooldowns that aurora has on her Q and E.

    • @MrBuns-yi2hk
      @MrBuns-yi2hk 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@Empti_ as a Mori player, I can confirm she is quite strong.

  • @shanksLUL
    @shanksLUL 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Shinbi is s tier. Her dances do too much dmg

    • @jomens8929
      @jomens8929 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree. I main her since i started the game and im always going out positive. On yt i see her built wrong and thats why i think shes mainly underrated

    • @MrBuns-yi2hk
      @MrBuns-yi2hk 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jomens8929what do you build on her?

    • @jomens8929
      @jomens8929 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrBuns-yi2hk azure core(only stack rod first), prophecy, magnify, lifebinder, oathkeeper, noxia

    • @FLYNN..
      @FLYNN.. 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Crest?​@@jomens8929

  • @jon7605
    @jon7605 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If Aurora didn’t have that passive she’d be the worst offlaner and jungler.

  • @Entitusschule
    @Entitusschule 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can agree with many points but Argus? I mean are you drunk? 😂
    He still deals a lot of damage if you build and play him right. Of course he isn't that strong anymore, but he will be buffed again and he is nowhere as bad as Rev or Rampage.

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Most people seem to share the same opinion on argus. So either you're cooking some crazy things or you are not being punished for being very weak early.

  • @pixelmania1261
    @pixelmania1261 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dekker got nerfed tho

  • @iceguy2402
    @iceguy2402 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    bad list. revenant ? i destroy with revenan i don't think you know what you saying

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He's horrible. He's bugged and has a horrible build path.

    • @chriselliott403
      @chriselliott403 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You gotta be low elo. He’s the worst ADC in the game rn by far and it isn’t close. Might be worse in the game atm.

  • @mastersev8365
    @mastersev8365 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sev and rev are still the weakest characters in early game, kinda sucks

  • @kazenaki
    @kazenaki 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This game is out of control, unbalanced champion, player go 0/10 and disconnect without conseguence. Items broken. Tank build useless. There are some champions really useless and unplayable and some others pick to win like khaimera, aurora and sparrow. Omedacity needs to wake up

  • @davehalliday8010
    @davehalliday8010 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Muriel s tier Wooooooo !!!

  • @jakquinn4207
    @jakquinn4207 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Putting Riktor anywhere but S is a joke. Best Support in game by a mile if you aren’t brain dead.

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There's a reason he's getting major buffs to his sustain and tankiness.

    • @jakquinn4207
      @jakquinn4207 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because his skill ceiling is so high. Most of the people I see can’t build a tanky frontline support properly.
      I’d say 1 or 2 people I’ve seen that have used his pull properly for Mid lane ults and what not.
      When played properly he counters any dive at all. Period. Pull, Dot, Silence, Dot, Supress, Dot, Silence again.
      I run him in off lane and you can 50-0 a Greystone without him ever getting chance to use his blink or Ult.

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jakquinn4207 His skill ceiling is not that high at all. As someone who enjoys playing riktor, his Support durability is much, much lower whilst his Jungle clear is too slow to keep up with the map if its 'burning.
      I will say, I'm not the best informed on offlane match-ups yet, so I won't dispute your argument there, but I'm definitely not putting this hero down because he's hard to play. Glad you're getting success with it though, sounds like you're doing better than majority of the riktor players I've seen or talked to.

    • @jakquinn4207
      @jakquinn4207 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’m not buying it stats are one thing, and you can build around those it’s the shit in his kit.
      Played Mobas for literally decades at this point and watched pros for the same amount of time.
      The kit of Riktor will be top pick and ban once/if a pro scene develops purely because of the pick potential around objectives.
      Let’s not even get into base defence / siege. It’s such a strong kit honestly.
      Fuck tankiness why is it so important when half the viable supports are squishy back line peelers anyway?

    • @Empti_
      @Empti_  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jakquinn4207 There's already somewhat of a scene, it's just not that established yet like the other MOBAS on the market. As someone who played in majority of Predecessor tourney since very early on, I went from seeing Riktor being priority first pick/ban to now falling as an occasional situational pick in jungle with a phase support to war-crime duo-lane.
      I'm sure upcoming changes might make him more desirable though. And I couldn't agree more with how good the kit is on paper, but if you truly are a MOBA Vet you should know how much more important numbers are when they're on the lower end of the scale.