@@amazingboi9388Trunks is much less expressive, doesn't act naturally, he was barely crying and that was some poor "crashout scene", he just seemed to do a little tweak and turned super Saiyan, the only way to identify that he's gradually getting a reality shock in DBS is because of the VA, the voice tone raising, etc, this scene sustains purely on it's verbal expression while on DBZ you can see in his face clearly what he's feeling, not the "I'm mad" generic face, the dread, the grieve, almost skeptical look of unbelieve from Gohan's death, followed by the rage and sorrow for a loss of his master, DBZ is far more superior because it express both verbally and visually the soundtrack is less intense, but ok, it's also sad, I guess Also, let's point out Gohan's body, in the DBS he seems to have fainted with closed eyes and may come back On DBZ, he seems completely dead, he's literally thrown in the water with his eyes completely empty, you know he's dead, as he didn't close his eyes or something, he was terminated just there where he lies, he's not in some rest pose, it's literally as if his life was terminated in that instant, thrown like a trash bag as the rest of the people that died
2016 looks kinda awkward when he yells and the animation just freezes. The way trunks face moves in 1995 and the body language makes you feel like he's actually really mad and sad.
@@xz2522 Yes, because they both are the same thing but what you think they are going to but all their time and effort into a flashback? That’s the key difference the 1995 was a movie and other was a flashback 😂
1995 is haunting. Gohan's eyes are open and completely white, lying motionless in a puddle. Super looks like he fell asleep in the rain. In the original, there's so much more movement and chaos in Trunk's transformation too.
Now that I think about it, it’d be even more tragic that if Gohan actually survived the ki barrage but was too weak to move/turn his head out the puddle and drowned
@@wearedestinyyth that honestly makes his death even darker than it already was, dude. Especially knowing how the future androids are such sadists that they’ll toy with, mock, humiliate, etc you before they do kill you
Music, atmosphere, duration, white opened dead eyes, head half drown, face on the ground, Trunks bleeding... EVERYTHING is better in 1995... 2016 really looks chilidsh.. Gohan almost look happy to be dead..
> *"white, opened, dead eyes"* This. Literally this. Gohan was my favorite (Vegeta not withstanding) growing up. So to see those dead eyes. Face down in the water. *Knowing* there wasn't going to be a Shenron to make it better, clawed at my soul. I was right there with Trunks in that moment. Super loses that magic completely. Also, English Dub was better. *That* Trunks Rage spoke to me.
@DominicIsDumb look don't take it so serious all I Was saying is that the 2016 version showed little to no emotion when it comes to details the Gohan being happy that he died was just a joke I hate to have to explain that to someone through a screen
1995 has such much depth. The way Trunks transforms is very reminiscent of when Goku lost Krillin and also went into a SSJ inducing rage, not to mention Gohan laying face down in the puddle, the absolute indignity really setup the scene.
90's version had me crying along with Trunks as a kids. 90's DBZ violence was legit with the fighting you felt the blows. Super on the other hand was neutered... Imagine the tournament of power in the 90's fight scenes would've been ruthless.
Exactly what TOP should of been like. Just straight survival. No killing? Fine. But that doesn't stop breaking arms and legs or even a paralyzing blow. Can't fight effectively(if at all) if you can't move from anything from the waist down.
BaDx ZyNer yea the animation was better too but the term was used incorrectly so I felt the need to correct him. And it’s not like they didn’t care with Super. They just had a terrible schedule at the time and Yamamuro’s plastic character sheets made things even worse. And due to this lack of time everyone suffered (animators in particular) meaning it doesn’t matter how good of an artist you are if you don’t have the time to produce art properly
I personally wouldn't say entirely. I really liked the scene in the Tournament of Power where Master Roshi delivers his most powerful kamehameha wave in order to defeat his opponent shortly followed up by him dying and Goku saving his life. That scene was one of the best in all of Super and I believe that there was a lot of nostalgia and emotion in there, especially for the fans that watched from the very beginning when Goku was a kid since Roshi was essentially like Goku's second father. But hey, that's just my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own :)
In super, they made Gohan look peaceful in death, but Gohan knew he couldn't die, he needed to be there for trunks. So in Z, his body looks in pain. It's a good detail that super totally missed
Look at the lines in his face in 1995. DBZ knew what they wanted. They wanted to show pain. Trauma. Loss. Rage. They made sure it was not pretty. They knew to make it violent. To take their time. Just the flashing red light leaves so much of an impact. Its horrible and beautiful and raw all at once, creating a scene that is burned into your mind forever. The remake is just a passionless remake. They "prettied up" the animation. They made death look soft. They didn't use the colours and the environment at all! Everything is clear and spotless and soft. Its... pathetic. It holds nothing in comparison. ...this is an insult, to recreate this scene and to take away from what it was... it would have been kinder just to show the original.
Why does 2016 version look like 1985 lol they skimped on the budget. And the hair flickering to SS was cheesy and awful. Took away from the whole thing. Worst remake I have ever seen
sageTendo Caulifla:I transformed into super sayian and super sayian 2 because of the tingly feeling in my back Goku:What??!!! Gohan:What??!! But I got super sayian 2 through rage and... Vegeta:BULLSHIT
One small element that is getting under appreciated from the 1995 version is the pulsating red light in the background , that little detail adds such a layer of depth to the scene and I love it!
Milo goten and trunks both transformed without any reason, and don't give me that "they have the blood of super saiyan" shit. Caulifla, Kale and Cabba are fully blooded more developed saiyans so wouldn't they have more of an excuse to acquire super saiyan.
Younes Haffadi awh yeah great point, good argument to why goten and trunks can do it, but that's in Z so I'm gonna take my pants off and let my nostalgia fuck me
Younes Haffadi I was never saying dbs could achieve the same as Z, the saiyans of universe 6 are far more developed as a race, they don't even have tails. Goten and Trunks still did nothing to achieve it's basically cause "I fell like it". I can admit and kinda give trunks a pass because he was in a gravity chamber being forced to train but he still goes super saiyan with a lack of effort it's taken everyone else before him
Younes Haffadi it doesn't even matter cause to be fair super saiyan stopped being special before super, not saying super is better then Z but there's people who look for little nit picks about the series but I can see the complaints of the show like the first 2 arcs but besides that people are making it look worse then it is.
MultiTarded bog was good animation except for THAT episode rof was terrible universe 6 v 7 was great goku black arc also great TOP had amazing animation
@MultiTarded I don't wanna hear Adequate for TOP. As much as I love DBZ and DB. I can't deny Jiren vs MUI Goku was the best Dragon Ball has looked period. Not my favourite fight, but in pure animation it was stunning. Of course the Broly movie looks better but that goes without saying. Hell, even the final fight in Super looks astounding. And that final shot of Goku and Freeza is so awesome. I get DBZ is this treasure in the internet but saying Super is entirely poor looking is just wrong. However the scene in the video is shit lmao.
@MultiTarded I totally agree that Super was less consistent, the angles and death scense were far superior in Z, and pretty much anything else you said. Though if we're talking looks I still think MUI Goku vs Jiren looks fantastic. I will say it's flashy and sometimes annoying but I do think it looked nice. If nothing else, the art and models were on point. Still I see what you mean and totally respect that.
DBZ absolutely destroys DBS in everything from atmosphere, to coloring (Fuck you bright colored blue haired Trunks), to the emotion and shot of the scene.
I like the old animations because they look actually written as to where super looks kind of made by computers if you know what i mean. Everything looks like it was made for kids.
Everything is animated digitally for Super, making it all new, brighter lighting, highlights on the character, etc. The scene in 1992 is animated hand drawn on traditional paper. The color palette is different as well, suiting the mood more. That's basically what you're saying, right?
Buddy, have you considered actually comparing the effort a certain 90s show made compared to a 2010s show? The 2016 scene wasn't good because they didn't really want to give it any proper impact and just wanted it to explain Trunk's backstory. They didn't bother making it just as bleak as the original. The 1995 special was meant to make the audience feel for Trunks and realize just how messed up and bleak his world was, hence a greater emphasis on Trunk's pain and the realization of the audience of just how tragic the death of the last Z fighter is. There are plenty of shows post the 90s that do similar kinds of emotional and grim storytelling. Every era had good stuff and bad stuff overall. What matters is how much effort the producers and writers of said works made in the making of those shows. You can say that storytelling in the Dragon Ball franchise peaked in the 90s but there are plenty of franchises and new shows that have peak writing in this era. Just because some franchises did better in the past that today doesn't mean all franchises did better then than now.
Trunks saying goodbye to Gohan in Xenoverse 2 is even more sad. If you really think about it, Trunks has a pretty sad life. These random androids come out of nowhere and begin killing millions of innocent people, all of his friends, and his best friend/mentor, setting him off. Even when he goes Super Saiyan, he still can't defeat the androids. He goes back into the past to warn everyone, and then creates a *new* enemy as a result, causing another reason for him to hate himself. I feel bad for him.
“If you really think about it, Trunks has a pretty sad life.” Dude if you didn’t put an ounce of thought into it you could figure it out. What were YOU thinking when you wrote that?
Whats lost meaning is that Trunks is supposed to strike the ground AFTER he turns Ssj to symbolize that though he has attained the strength to help Gohan, its too late and that strength is in vain. Now he can only use that strength to strike the ground in despair, knowing he cant bring Gohan back.
2016 lacks: Color of tone to fit the atmosphere. Contrast of darkness Voice acting Anger and heart break Gohan looks unconscious from having too many beers rather than flat face dead like in 1995 ...Not even a comparison.
@@burningsexuality1540 Toriyama changed that. It's not due to poor animation. Went from a gag-manga to shonen battle manga then that translated to the anime.
I hate the new animation style. Everything is so smooth and shiny. It makes them look like fucking dolls and makes expressing emotions way more difficult. You can't honestly tell me then new one portrays even half of the pain Trunks would actually be feeling.
Yeah for dramatic/intense scenes like this, I definitely prefer the old animation style. The rough aspect only amplifies how "rough" the situation is. It gives it more flavor. What's more is the effects with the surroundings when Trunks is pounding that shit. Way more impactful. It's less about just "adding those effects in" and more about how the key animators are convey those effects from imagination to final product
The 2016 one was just a fucking flashback for crying out loud. Good lord, compare a flashback to a fucking TV special. Good job there. Of course the fucking emotions wouldn't be there. Its a flashback....
+Jose Valencia I know but they, I don't know, there was something different besides the animation, the voices weren't as emotional, they needed somewhat more sad music but not too much, they didn't portray the despair trunks felt very well
In Super he looks like hes taking a nap. But in the original his eyes were empty but still you can see that he fought for his life until the bitter end.
Super is mostly fine. The only nostalgia-tards are the ones that insist that DBZ is some sacred cow, as it were. God damn, DBZ had some shit animation that could compare to episode 5 of DBS. So many off model shots, and Goku's first transformation was ruined by completely dorky hair. Seriously, look at how many times they messed up making his hair look any sort of decent when he fought Freeza. The "DBS sucks" circlejerk is just kinda tiring.
1995 hands down, THIS is how you become a Super Saiyan, not some tingly ass feeling on your back lol, heck you can even listen, no, better said you can FEEL it as if it was your own sorrow and sadness, from his full fledged anger to pure RAGE.
0:20 my only question is why the hell did they make his hair blue? I mean, his hair was purple in Z. And Bulma’s hair. was blue, but her actual hair is purple.
its a different future trunks. there are 4 timelines, the original Cell timeline where he goes back to Z, the 1st future trunks timeline where he has purple hair and beats 1st form cell, the second trunks timeline with blue hair and zamasu takes over gokus body, and a 4th unseen timeline.
Dark tones, pouring rain, a half buried face lifeless in a puddle, fists clenched until they bleed, and even the close-ups. Even muted, 1995 is better, because it visually gives you the fury and pain of losing Gohan (I'm literally tearing up just writing this). I love and defend Super in many ways, but they need to let go of the past. People want blood. They hate censorship, no matter the age. Why? Because it takes from the realism of the situation. Case in point.
The new trunks literally looks like he can’t move his eyes at all, like his eyes don’t really change, but the old one was insanely better and more emotional, like just look at his expressions in the old one, he looks so good
I didn’t see anyone else comment on it, but I really appreciate ‘95’s inclusion of the bird feathers in the puddle next to Gohan. Birds are used throughout DBZ as a symbol of the peace Goku and Gohan protect, as well as their good nature. When I first watched this as a kid, the implication of the feathers in the puddle helped deliver the intensity of Trunk’s emotional pain and rage to me. A good man died, a mentor was killed defending people he cared about. That transformation still gives me chills. 10/10 scene. ‘95 forever.
I never realized how the background impacted the scene. Gohan's lifeless corpse facedown in a puddle around a fallen, destroyed city really hits home how badly they have lost to the androids.
I think what your trying to say is 'Character Acting'. Super has little to know character acting and everything just looks so stiff. DBS Broly had a lot of character acting in it which made it look a lot better.
You know what pisses me off about this is the fact that Dragon Ball Z makes millions alone but THIS!!! This is trash i think it is a disgrace it could have been done better Even the fucking Xenoverse looks good and honestly i thought that looked like the show when i had my glasses off only reason i could tell was it was from a game at the last second was because of the skin it looks spot on though i mean look at that fuck me people these links people just insulting i honestly have never cried during a movie and this scene almost made me cry static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/280/2802776/3082512-futuretrunks.jpg images.pushsquare.com/news/2016/06/e3_2016_dragon_ball_xenoverse_2_blasts_into_e3_with_brand_new_gameplay/attachment/0/original.jpg What makes it worse is the fact that Dragon Ball Z games can only get better from here i mean imagine the power if PC took over the graphics alone would murder DBS no wait Pokemon has a better track record of their anime too WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Original Z hands down. Everything in the special is infinitely better in comparison-especially the tinny liberties that Toei staff takes from the original manga and somehow, they manage to make the whole thing surpisingly better than in the source material unlike most of the films that they've produced like Broly's mediocre trilogy and Super Android 13. The entire fittingly bleak mood throughout the scene with the ravaged city, Gohan's tattered corpse in a close-up shot, red traffic light dimly-and in a strangely fitting way-illuminating both characters, Trunks movements, the voice acting, Kikuchi's magnificent score, the climax of the scene, everything.
Nah, this new version in Super is an insult. In the original, you really felt bad for Trunks. He has the most emotional transformation of them all. It brought tears to my eyes. You could almost feel his pain. The Super version is just trash. In the original you could see him slowly transforming, like it's breaking out. Not in Super. Par for the course in Super. Not a single transformation in Super is even cool to see.
And in the original the way gohan body looks makes everything more heart breaking but in supers version they made it look like he died a peaceful death
I mean I'm not saying I don't enjoy the original one (The Funimation dub one, not the Japanese dub), but honestly, the 2016 one was cut short and paid less attention to because it was a short flash back scene. A lot of super is good once you get past the movie arcs that should have never been redone, and some of it they cut corners on for sure.
It's the little things that matter. Super is in a word: clichéd. They just slap stuff together and say "alright this thing is right here let's move on". What you see in Z is believable as well as relatable. Trunks isn't just in distress, he's in misery. His eyes are leaking tears so fast you cant tell when the crying ends and the rain begins. The way he walks towards Gohan as though he were half alive, the way he stammers his name, totally in denial, clutching his lifeless body irrationally, the way he screams, clenching his fists until it bled, overcome with grief, anger, resentment, desperation. All of this with a committedly bleak and hopeless atmosphere and you have yourself a solid emotion. Super doesn't care about the authenticity of what it presents as a medium. This comparison is just a one to one slideshow of what I mean.
Good god man chill out, of course the old one would be better, It was made for a tv special and it was the first time we had seen this story before. The 2016 one was a recap in a 20 minute tv episode, why would they throw all their best animation into something they already made before?
Toriyama didn't write or direct the special at all. In fact, the version of this scene from the manga is even blander than in Super, as we just see a couple of panels of Trunks finding Gohan's body and saying "Gohan-san".
Killer I also wondered why goku didn't train on king kias world to become stronger than the androids and then use the instant transmission back to earth to defeat them too many plot holes. I guess going back in the past was really the best because it changed the past for the good.
About namek, remember that now its New Namek and its now in a completely different place, and kami's ship got rekt in Namek. Also after the androids attacked, resources to make a ship with enough fuel to reach New Namek. About the training with King Kai, if he's dead, he cant do anything (as stated in the fight against Bojack) So, not that many plot holes.
Cairox 150 goku trained after he died against cell for a little while on king kias planet and was eventually able to transform into a super saiyan 3. We also find out later that goku can instant transmission from king kias planet to earth. I guess if he's dead he wouldn't be aloud to since in the buu arc he was only able to visit for some time and then he had to leave.
Jacob Maga it could easily have been you laughing at him and telling him he's dumb not realizing the joke, how was I supposed to tell if you were being sarcastic? Also, that insult was glorious, haha.
The original is far better, but to be fair, the super version is them recapping it, the original is it actually happening, so obviously more was put into the happening one
They used original footage of Trunk's when his hair was purple before. However they greyed out the colours so you couldn't see what his old hair colour was
Man, Super really didn’t have the right emotion on his face. You don’t see the pain and anguish one bit. You wouldn’t even know he was sad if it weren’t for the tears.
1995 Future Gohan: Laying face down dead against the ground as result of a tragic battle. 2016 Future Gohan: Thank God I'm dead and this is my only scene in Super.
To me the part that I would says makes that whole scene land is the bit where he lightly jogs up to Gohan still in disbelief and then stops and just stares at him for a drawn out pause. It adds the emphasis to the rest of the scene that makes it hit so much harder and is incredibly subtle. The 2016 one is still good in its own ways (like the shot of Gohan's sleeve and Trunk's feet, the music is also great) but the original one had the tone down to a T. People don't need to dunk on 2016 to make themselves feel better about something they might have seen as a kid. Both are good and we have both
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2016: Trunks is acting.
1995: Trunks is living this personally.
You goddamn right
bro whats wrong with the new one
@@amazingboi9388almost everything its inferior to the original
@@amazingboi9388the og just hits different, feels more emotional
@@amazingboi9388Trunks is much less expressive, doesn't act naturally, he was barely crying and that was some poor "crashout scene", he just seemed to do a little tweak and turned super Saiyan, the only way to identify that he's gradually getting a reality shock in DBS is because of the VA, the voice tone raising, etc, this scene sustains purely on it's verbal expression while on DBZ you can see in his face clearly what he's feeling, not the "I'm mad" generic face, the dread, the grieve, almost skeptical look of unbelieve from Gohan's death, followed by the rage and sorrow for a loss of his master, DBZ is far more superior because it express both verbally and visually
the soundtrack is less intense, but ok, it's also sad, I guess
Also, let's point out Gohan's body, in the DBS he seems to have fainted with closed eyes and may come back
On DBZ, he seems completely dead, he's literally thrown in the water with his eyes completely empty, you know he's dead, as he didn't close his eyes or something, he was terminated just there where he lies, he's not in some rest pose, it's literally as if his life was terminated in that instant, thrown like a trash bag as the rest of the people that died
The original one, Trunks squeezing his hands so hard in rage that they start to bleed. Got chills from that. Very powerful and sad
I didn't realize that until now
evilTaker90V2-........that was Gohan’s blood
Sjj Lemon that wasn’t..
Noah M. It was....
@@sjj3lemon267 nope
2016 looks kinda awkward when he yells and the animation just freezes. The way trunks face moves in 1995 and the body language makes you feel like he's actually really mad and sad.
2016 trunks 1995 trunks has the same feeling
@@r4zencd120 fuck no.
1995 are amazing
Thank you man
@@xz2522 Yes, because they both are the same thing but what you think they are going to but all their time and effort into a flashback? That’s the key difference the 1995 was a movie and other was a flashback 😂
@@r4zencd120 you're a clown
1995 is haunting. Gohan's eyes are open and completely white, lying motionless in a puddle. Super looks like he fell asleep in the rain. In the original, there's so much more movement and chaos in Trunk's transformation too.
Now that I think about it, it’d be even more tragic that if Gohan actually survived the ki barrage but was too weak to move/turn his head out the puddle and drowned
@@TaeSunWooI think they drowned him in my opinion. Cus when he got blasted he was looking up.
@@wearedestinyyththat's true but like his head could have hit the ground, bounced off and fell down like that
@@wearedestinyyth that honestly makes his death even darker than it already was, dude. Especially knowing how the future androids are such sadists that they’ll toy with, mock, humiliate, etc you before they do kill you
Strange its almost like we all watched the same two clips and came to the same conclusion
Music, atmosphere, duration, white opened dead eyes, head half drown, face on the ground, Trunks bleeding... EVERYTHING is better in 1995... 2016 really looks chilidsh.. Gohan almost look happy to be dead..
HAHAHA Gohan almost looked happy to be dead ... u are killing me xD
One was a movie- the other one was a flashback from a weekly release with a limited budget lol..
> *"white, opened, dead eyes"*
This. Literally this. Gohan was my favorite (Vegeta not withstanding) growing up. So to see those dead eyes. Face down in the water. *Knowing* there wasn't going to be a Shenron to make it better, clawed at my soul. I was right there with Trunks in that moment. Super loses that magic completely. Also, English Dub was better. *That* Trunks Rage spoke to me.
Can’t say a blame him
This is why i love the dbz movies. The brutality they showed was top notch
1995 gohan: actually dead
2016 gohan: is just sleeping, tbh he looked happy that he died
Lmaoo
xDD
The 1995 dub was also better than the sub
hahahahhahahahaha
@DominicIsDumb look don't take it so serious all I Was saying is that the 2016 version showed little to no emotion when it comes to details the Gohan being happy that he died was just a joke I hate to have to explain that to someone through a screen
Super looks like when you were a kid trying to turn super saiyan
😭😭😭😭
That gave me a good laugh ngl
Including lice itch. 🤣🤣🤣
I wish dragon ball existed in real life and we can become sayains
@@r4zencd120 Haha me too
1995: Gohan actually dead
2016: "Trunks shut the f*ck up! Imt rying to nap!"
Lmao
I feel bad for anyone who thinks the 2016 animation is better than this emotional masterpiece
Z fanboy
Shido Itsuka Excuse me for not being blind
Xavier820 1995 is way better right?
Honestly, I never understood why people kept saying dbs was terrible, but, that was terrible
Like most Super fans are lol. I can't believe people are saying Super is better than Z. LUDICROUS.
1995: GOOOOHHHAAAANNNNNNN!!!
2016: Gohan wake up you're Drunk...
Majin Inkling 😂😂😂
Majin Inkling lol
Majin Inkling pretty much
Majin Inkling pretty much 1995 wins
2016 this gonna be Family Friendly
1995 has such much depth.
The way Trunks transforms is very reminiscent of when Goku lost Krillin and also went into a SSJ inducing rage, not to mention Gohan laying face down in the puddle, the absolute indignity really setup the scene.
Gohan in dbs taking a nap fr
Rage moments to unlock ssj in Z....
Unlike this stupid "tingling feeling" in super
Am I trippin or did TH-cam link where you said Krillin
@@tanbad7883its different for u6 sayians
90's version had me crying along with Trunks as a kids. 90's DBZ violence was legit with the fighting you felt the blows. Super on the other hand was neutered... Imagine the tournament of power in the 90's fight scenes would've been ruthless.
Imagine that one scene when everyone thought Frieza killed that yard rat
Exactly what TOP should of been like. Just straight survival. No killing? Fine. But that doesn't stop breaking arms and legs or even a paralyzing blow. Can't fight effectively(if at all) if you can't move from anything from the waist down.
I wish they kept going with this type of animation
Even after all these years it looks so much better than super
*artsyle
@@fryer.studios100 well, the animation too was better at the time, they didn't do any thing half-heartedly.
BaDx ZyNer yea the animation was better too but the term was used incorrectly so I felt the need to correct him. And it’s not like they didn’t care with Super. They just had a terrible schedule at the time and Yamamuro’s plastic character sheets made things even worse. And due to this lack of time everyone suffered (animators in particular) meaning it doesn’t matter how good of an artist you are if you don’t have the time to produce art properly
Jalen F. You’re right about that ;)
The world had more money then
Damn we really lost a lot from the late 90s. Whatever emotion Dragon ball had is gone.
Ikr?
early 90s. dragon bal z ran from 1989-1996
worldwide release start at late 90s and early 2000s.
@@qweasdzxcname yeah and? It still started airing in 1989 whats your point kid
@Hazries45 Well no shit, it was released then, if it was released before it wouldve been popular before
I personally wouldn't say entirely. I really liked the scene in the Tournament of Power where Master Roshi delivers his most powerful kamehameha wave in order to defeat his opponent shortly followed up by him dying and Goku saving his life. That scene was one of the best in all of Super and I believe that there was a lot of nostalgia and emotion in there, especially for the fans that watched from the very beginning when Goku was a kid since Roshi was essentially like Goku's second father. But hey, that's just my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own :)
You can feel the horror and frustration of trunks in the 1995 version
1995 : special and movie
2016 : just a flashback
Super just looks soulless.
This isnt super it is Z jokes on you
@@mystic_memes3059 not funny or clever. What are you even trying to do with that lie?
@@mystic_memes3059 Are you slow? The comment was about super being soulless. Z just has more soul than super.
Accurate AF
I don't know about you guys but I see the same amount of soul in both shows
In super, they made Gohan look peaceful in death, but Gohan knew he couldn't die, he needed to be there for trunks. So in Z, his body looks in pain. It's a good detail that super totally missed
Ikr Gohan's body looked like he did the most trying to hang on against the androids but died knowing he put a heavy burden on his student
I showed this to my sister, she thought the 2016 version was a fan made because of how bad it is.
+Erusenuto84 ha! ur pic has a face to macth ur comment😂!
is your sis animation certified........
ITSAllorNutn It's her job,yes.
+Aowa Deviantart Damn that's cool must be an awesome sis XD
is your profile picture being well how do I say this hmm oh I know getting fucked
2016, didn’t capture any emotion. No rage, no stress, no musical emotion. Just a character screaming and going ssj
Look at the lines in his face in 1995.
DBZ knew what they wanted. They wanted to show pain. Trauma. Loss. Rage. They made sure it was not pretty. They knew to make it violent. To take their time. Just the flashing red light leaves so much of an impact. Its horrible and beautiful and raw all at once, creating a scene that is burned into your mind forever.
The remake is just a passionless remake. They "prettied up" the animation. They made death look soft. They didn't use the colours and the environment at all! Everything is clear and spotless and soft. Its... pathetic. It holds nothing in comparison.
...this is an insult, to recreate this scene and to take away from what it was... it would have been kinder just to show the original.
Spitting Facts
Man speaks the truth
New one legit made me laugh
Why does 2016 version look like 1985 lol they skimped on the budget. And the hair flickering to SS was cheesy and awful. Took away from the whole thing. Worst remake I have ever seen
Tbh history of trunks was released in 1992 or early 1993 when cell saga still around
2017 :
Feeling a tingle in your back makes you a ssj
sageTendo so true -.-
Retarded comment
Only in U6.
sageTendo
Caulifla:I transformed into super sayian and super sayian 2 because of the tingly feeling in my back
Goku:What??!!!
Gohan:What??!! But I got super sayian 2 through rage and...
Vegeta:BULLSHIT
"Retarded Comment"?
Buu: You're missing the point.
1995 version is insanely better.
Vini Gers same seiyuu tho
Vini Gers the voice acting was shit tho in 1995 in my opinion
I Agree
Vini Gers nope
Well their opinion is wrong and stupid. The 1995 version shits on the 2016 version in every single logical way, there's just zero argument.
One small element that is getting under appreciated from the 1995 version is the pulsating red light in the background , that little detail adds such a layer of depth to the scene and I love it!
2016: what?
1995: Who left a bowl of onions?
Squidward and the other fish pushing that bowl
🥲
Meanwhile caulifla.
Just goes ssj because she has a tingle feeling in her back.
k
Oh.
Milo goten and trunks both transformed without any reason, and don't give me that "they have the blood of super saiyan" shit. Caulifla, Kale and Cabba are fully blooded more developed saiyans so wouldn't they have more of an excuse to acquire super saiyan.
Younes Haffadi awh yeah great point, good argument to why goten and trunks can do it, but that's in Z so I'm gonna take my pants off and let my nostalgia fuck me
Younes Haffadi I was never saying dbs could achieve the same as Z, the saiyans of universe 6 are far more developed as a race, they don't even have tails. Goten and Trunks still did nothing to achieve it's basically cause "I fell like it". I can admit and kinda give trunks a pass because he was in a gravity chamber being forced to train but he still goes super saiyan with a lack of effort it's taken everyone else before him
Younes Haffadi it doesn't even matter cause to be fair super saiyan stopped being special before super, not saying super is better then Z but there's people who look for little nit picks about the series but I can see the complaints of the show like the first 2 arcs but besides that people are making it look worse then it is.
We can all agree that 1995 was more passionate right? It really got me in my feels seeing gohan die RIP the GOAT
Agreed
If goku saw his son dead he would go insane and avenge him those who killed his son
@@r4zencd120 ok?
Defintely 1995 version. The tears coming down his face and the pure rage squeezing his hands so tight they started to bleed till finally it erupts.
1995 All the way!
Better atmosphere, better art style, better animation, more emotion! Enough said.
And this thrill... :D
Agreed
Of course
Definitely Right ! 👍
who ever says no is retarted
1995 gave me chills 3 times
2016 gave me no chill at all
Same here
@@shadowninja8960 sameeeee
2016 made me laugh
Gave me cringe 3 times
Ones Inna Movie Ones A Flashback
00:26 Trunks was struck with the most extreme case of lice
EpicForDayz I’m dying XD
MultiTarded bog was good animation except for THAT episode rof was terrible universe 6 v 7 was great goku black arc also great TOP had amazing animation
@MultiTarded I don't wanna hear Adequate for TOP. As much as I love DBZ and DB. I can't deny Jiren vs MUI Goku was the best Dragon Ball has looked period. Not my favourite fight, but in pure animation it was stunning. Of course the Broly movie looks better but that goes without saying. Hell, even the final fight in Super looks astounding. And that final shot of Goku and Freeza is so awesome. I get DBZ is this treasure in the internet but saying Super is entirely poor looking is just wrong. However the scene in the video is shit lmao.
@MultiTarded I totally agree that Super was less consistent, the angles and death scense were far superior in Z, and pretty much anything else you said. Though if we're talking looks I still think MUI Goku vs Jiren looks fantastic. I will say it's flashy and sometimes annoying but I do think it looked nice. If nothing else, the art and models were on point. Still I see what you mean and totally respect that.
underrated
He scratched his head in 2016 like he got lice. 💀 no sir
1995's version was more sad and emotional.
Brandon Wolford I agree
THAT WAS A MOVIE STUPID PUSSY
Brandon Wolford WHATT?? IS REALLY?
Tropctus lel it was a 1993 tv special. Not a movie.
sry that the new speakers cant scream like that xD
DBZ absolutely destroys DBS in everything from atmosphere, to coloring (Fuck you bright colored blue haired Trunks), to the emotion and shot of the scene.
Jason Lu plus.google.com/+Ghostx2xElitedebunkingstationownerthenumber1/posts/7x66RDuFJ3C
it wasn't. bulma's hair was purple and that's what the anime had wrong.
no bulmas hair became blue twards z because anime but trunks had like a light purple hair
+Landin Stewart In the anime it was always blue.
yes iim saying in thee manga he changed it too blue later because of the anime. Trunks hair was always purple tho
Oh my god! 1:50 Dat pain in his scream... No Words.
Lol go to 0:40. Same scream
Soner Sezgin stop talking
Carl Schneider ok
Soner Sezgin cidden mi?
Soner Sezgin Nope, listen closely, the old one is changing voice tones
Watching this in 2024 and the 1995 version looks even better.
If only Gohan would've told him to make the back of his neck really tingly 😂
It was the back, not neck
(Edit ): oh wait now I get it!
@@mykimations3957, you get the idea
@@mykimations3957 woosh
@@mykimations3957 he's referring to when Gohan hit the back of his neck to knock him out before he died
Anti Justin y you should be the one getting wooshed he literally said he got the joke
It is unbelievable how bad 2016 is compaired to the old ones.
Philiboi
This was an almost anecdotal scene for DBS while the 90's version was the climax of the SPECIAL. Duh there is gonna be a difference
It's fine now. Keep up Dankus Memus.
it is good
What is so wrong about it? I think it's good
The animation is stiff and awkward and the art is far worse. That's way the 2016 version is worse AND bad
1995 you could see the rain and it was more epic
mario playz games they're on a budget that's why
mario playz games dbs are raining too
That's not what real rain looks like which is why I think they made it look like that in 2016 I think ..... but I still like the old one better lol
mario playz games agree
Almost 1000 vs 4.
Lol yea, the rain is great.
I like the old animations because they look actually written as to where super looks kind of made by computers if you know what i mean. Everything looks like it was made for kids.
Everything is animated digitally for Super, making it all new, brighter lighting, highlights on the character, etc. The scene in 1992 is animated hand drawn on traditional paper. The color palette is different as well, suiting the mood more. That's basically what you're saying, right?
I agree, but it was actually made for a younger audience, me being an old og DB fan I'm not the target audience anymore.
0:25 That moment when a dead body gives you lice.
Calm that down X_X
LMAO
brus li lmao
brus li that's the true reason trunks went ssj
Lmfaoooooooo 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭
Thats one of my reasons why 90s anime was the best.
It seems like the whole world has gone nuts and soft since the year 2000, in every aspect possible! I miss the 80s and 90s so much!!!
We Done With The 90s
@@sassuki no i think after 2012
@@doctorfreeman5127 that's just a movie 😂
Buddy, have you considered actually comparing the effort a certain 90s show made compared to a 2010s show?
The 2016 scene wasn't good because they didn't really want to give it any proper impact and just wanted it to explain Trunk's backstory. They didn't bother making it just as bleak as the original.
The 1995 special was meant to make the audience feel for Trunks and realize just how messed up and bleak his world was, hence a greater emphasis on Trunk's pain and the realization of the audience of just how tragic the death of the last Z fighter is.
There are plenty of shows post the 90s that do similar kinds of emotional and grim storytelling.
Every era had good stuff and bad stuff overall.
What matters is how much effort the producers and writers of said works made in the making of those shows.
You can say that storytelling in the Dragon Ball franchise peaked in the 90s but there are plenty of franchises and new shows that have peak writing in this era.
Just because some franchises did better in the past that today doesn't mean all franchises did better then than now.
Trunks saying goodbye to Gohan in Xenoverse 2 is even more sad. If you really think about it, Trunks has a pretty sad life. These random androids come out of nowhere and begin killing millions of innocent people, all of his friends, and his best friend/mentor, setting him off. Even when he goes Super Saiyan, he still can't defeat the androids. He goes back into the past to warn everyone, and then creates a *new* enemy as a result, causing another reason for him to hate himself. I feel bad for him.
YourBroKace.......
He's the best character in the series.
“If you really think about it, Trunks has a pretty sad life.” Dude if you didn’t put an ounce of thought into it you could figure it out. What were YOU thinking when you wrote that?
@@ogloc4478 Future Gohan had the most sad life, he has been suffering since 4 years old for things that aren't his fault
Whats lost meaning is that Trunks is supposed to strike the ground AFTER he turns Ssj to symbolize that though he has attained the strength to help Gohan, its too late and that strength is in vain.
Now he can only use that strength to strike the ground in despair, knowing he cant bring Gohan back.
Absolutely no contest. 1995 Version is way superior.
2016 lacks:
Color of tone to fit the atmosphere.
Contrast of darkness
Voice acting
Anger and heart break
Gohan looks unconscious from having too many beers rather than flat face dead like in 1995
...Not even a comparison.
ATARi lol I subbed to u
Emperor Pilaf rip your Castle
1995 Had a Movie Budget.
+Mikey Cunha 1995 was also 21 years ago
JJ Bloo omg I was just watching my hero academia
Super lost the raw essence of dragon ball.
👍👏
It’s too flashy
@@slim2845 So did Z
@@burningsexuality1540 Toriyama changed that. It's not due to poor animation. Went from a gag-manga to shonen battle manga then that translated to the anime.
The raw essence? Do you idiots just throw words together and pretend you sound smart?
1995 makes you tear up while 2016 makes you laugh
Both does neither for me your crazy
@@Khayreee lol ok
I hate the new animation style. Everything is so smooth and shiny. It makes them look like fucking dolls and makes expressing emotions way more difficult. You can't honestly tell me then new one portrays even half of the pain Trunks would actually be feeling.
so your saying u like it hard and rough eh? lol jk
Shido Itsuka Why's that?
TRUST!
Yeah for dramatic/intense scenes like this, I definitely prefer the old animation style. The rough aspect only amplifies how "rough" the situation is. It gives it more flavor. What's more is the effects with the surroundings when Trunks is pounding that shit. Way more impactful. It's less about just "adding those effects in" and more about how the key animators are convey those effects from imagination to final product
The 2016 one was just a fucking flashback for crying out loud. Good lord, compare a flashback to a fucking TV special. Good job there. Of course the fucking emotions wouldn't be there. Its a flashback....
1995 is MUCH better
All the scenes of 1995 is way too better than 2016.
Agreed
You are right the original is always better. If there is no original then there is no new version.
Garfield Chambers opinions
manic the hedgehog
*facts* * XD
In the 2016 he sounds like he's crying for his Christmas present but in the original it gives me way more goosebumps
2016 one: "what's this disney movie dragon ball?"
1995 one: 😢
ugh, the 2016 one made it look a bit too..silly, there's no need for the hair grabbing
That was in the old one too
+Jose Valencia I know but they, I don't know, there was something different besides the animation, the voices weren't as emotional, they needed somewhat more sad music but not too much, they didn't portray the despair trunks felt very well
I agree
+Jose Valencia but he only GRABBED it, he didn't scratch it at high speeds, lol
1:42
Super made this intense emotional death scene into a fucking Sesame street G RATED TV Y7 fuck up. Thanks super thanks!
In Super he looks like hes taking a nap. But in the original his eyes were empty but still you can see that he fought for his life until the bitter end.
yeah, it's targeted towards children for profit. fuck the original fans is what they are saying
Eric Morales yes but yet you are called a nostalgia tard for pointing that out. DB should just stick with movies.
Super is mostly fine. The only nostalgia-tards are the ones that insist that DBZ is some sacred cow, as it were. God damn, DBZ had some shit animation that could compare to episode 5 of DBS. So many off model shots, and Goku's first transformation was ruined by completely dorky hair. Seriously, look at how many times they messed up making his hair look any sort of decent when he fought Freeza.
The "DBS sucks" circlejerk is just kinda tiring.
Dragon Ball super is straight garbage.
1995 hands down, THIS is how you become a Super Saiyan, not some tingly ass feeling on your back lol, heck you can even listen, no, better said you can FEEL it as if it was your own sorrow and sadness, from his full fledged anger to pure RAGE.
Ik this comment is from 3 years ago lol but super treats super saiyan like it's nothing it's ridiculous
0:20 my only question is why the hell did they make his hair blue? I mean, his hair was purple in Z. And Bulma’s hair. was blue, but her actual hair is purple.
That's what I'm saying too, I never got it either and besides, the purple hair looked way better too
Its probably because of bulma, somebody must have thought he'd have blue hair cause of hers and just went with it
The reason is very STUPID but when akira wrote dbs he forgot what trunks hair color was so he decided to make it like bulma hair color
its a different future trunks. there are 4 timelines, the original Cell timeline where he goes back to Z, the 1st future trunks timeline where he has purple hair and beats 1st form cell, the second trunks timeline with blue hair and zamasu takes over gokus body, and a 4th unseen timeline.
I've been questioning this for years
Dark tones, pouring rain, a half buried face lifeless in a puddle, fists clenched until they bleed, and even the close-ups. Even muted, 1995 is better, because it visually gives you the fury and pain of losing Gohan (I'm literally tearing up just writing this). I love and defend Super in many ways, but they need to let go of the past. People want blood. They hate censorship, no matter the age. Why? Because it takes from the realism of the situation. Case in point.
Look this shame in 2016....
1995 version was much much better.
+cic- -ero open your eyes
+cic- -ero open your eyes
I'm pretty sure it was due to the more time they had to animate back in 1995, since it's a movie of course.
The quality was this good in most dbz and dragon ball episodes. Even though the movie had a bit higher quality.
+Bulma ブルマー (ʏօʊʀ sɛռքaɨ) HOT isn't a movie. Just a big episode.
The new trunks literally looks like he can’t move his eyes at all, like his eyes don’t really change, but the old one was insanely better and more emotional, like just look at his expressions in the old one, he looks so good
I didn’t see anyone else comment on it, but I really appreciate ‘95’s inclusion of the bird feathers in the puddle next to Gohan. Birds are used throughout DBZ as a symbol of the peace Goku and Gohan protect, as well as their good nature. When I first watched this as a kid, the implication of the feathers in the puddle helped deliver the intensity of Trunk’s emotional pain and rage to me. A good man died, a mentor was killed defending people he cared about. That transformation still gives me chills.
10/10 scene. ‘95 forever.
Those, uh... those are leaves in the water.
This scene is really a good exemple of what we lost in 20 years. Not only in DBZ. Internet and technology has killed our soul.
The fuck
You only think that maybe because your only point of reference is Dragon ball LMAO get a grip
bro thinks internet and technology didnt exist in 1995
@@internetcatgirl6063even 2006 nobody was that much influenced by and attached to the internet as 2010s and up
the fact alone that the eyes of gohans dead body were still open makes the 1995 version insanely more horrorfying
I never realized how the background impacted the scene. Gohan's lifeless corpse facedown in a puddle around a fallen, destroyed city really hits home how badly they have lost to the androids.
Super's Gohan looks like he's taking a nap
Scratching his head like wtf lmao.
of course, imagine your family that protects you from everything, from danger.. take care of you.. love you like your mom.. and lost ...
lmao when you just see your most loved one dead but need to itch out lice out of your hair
Kinfizo wait, so when someone important to you dies.. you scratch your hair for lice? Hm.
😂😂😂😂
I thought I was the only one who thought that was weird. HA! Glad to see others felt the same.
the thing super is really missing is emotion and movement, im not sure how to explain it but the 1995 has more movement to its animation
It did
2016 looks too clean
@MultiTarded there was no need to recreate this scene
I think what your trying to say is 'Character Acting'. Super has little to know character acting and everything just looks so stiff. DBS Broly had a lot of character acting in it which made it look a lot better.
Ha d made animation (1995) vs ai one
what i love about the 1995 version, it seems like when Trunks was screaming it seemed like his mouth would rip apart DX both are still heartbreaking
Not even joking, the 1995 gave me chills. Voice acting is god tier as well!
you can tell in 1995 they put a lot more effort into it
Hey same thing high one 🖐
One was a movie the other was a rushed episode lol
@@Oh_geezzz It wasn't a movie it was a TV Special, and it's not the same thing
@@madeinsound08 tv specials get more quality either way
@@Oh_geezzz
No excuse lmao. There are still episodes and scenes from DBZ that utterly destroy DBS even after all this time.
1:42
When DBZ fanboys see the Super flashback.
because it was to godly for you to handle.
lol
ahah
When I saw trunks hair in dbs
Salty Snake... Hahaha... Absolutely correct, 😁😁😂
0:34 remove the tears, and it just looks like he's getting ready for a fight -___-
The tears just got removed when he turns ssj
he's going to fight Lord Beerus 🗿
21 years go by since 1995 and we are 21 years behind in terms of production quality apparently.
DBZ went so hard...
'95 animation wayyyyy better than 2016..... how sad
Not really there is a difference between art style and animation. 2016 animation is better but the 90s release had the better art style.
Agree
true cause it really get u in the feels
and u need to watch the movie to understand how sad it is
Not really it just went from and drawn to computers
If super looked more like the DBZ kai intro that would've been beyond badass. 😲
ahhhh Toei !!!! we meet again my old greedy cheapass friend :)
You win
You know what pisses me off about this is the fact that Dragon Ball Z makes millions alone but THIS!!! This is trash i think it is a disgrace it could have been done better
Even the fucking Xenoverse looks good and honestly i thought that looked like the show when i had my glasses off only reason i could tell was it was from a game at the last second was because of the skin it looks spot on though i mean look at that fuck me people these links people just insulting i honestly have never cried during a movie and this scene almost made me cry
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What makes it worse is the fact that Dragon Ball Z games can only get better from here i mean imagine the power if PC took over the graphics alone would murder DBS no wait Pokemon has a better track record of their anime too WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Orange Orange
Can i do any better? Well no cause i dont have a company unlike these twats but if i did yeah i bet i could do alot
they only have a week to produce something like this m8.
Kingbadass123 Yeah, Animation takes such a long time and so much effort. I understand, since I animate myself and know how hard it is :3
Original Z hands down.
Everything in the special is infinitely better in comparison-especially the tinny liberties that Toei staff takes from the original manga and somehow, they manage to make the whole thing surpisingly better than in the source material unlike most of the films that they've produced like Broly's mediocre trilogy and Super Android 13.
The entire fittingly bleak mood throughout the scene with the ravaged city, Gohan's tattered corpse in a close-up shot, red traffic light dimly-and in a strangely fitting way-illuminating both characters, Trunks movements, the voice acting, Kikuchi's magnificent score, the climax of the scene, everything.
Nameless Avenger It's only a Flashback so Z Wins Hands Down,BUT IF TOEI WOULD BE LESS LAZY MAYBE DB SUPER WOULD BE BETTER
95 : Deeply distressed and emotionally shattered.
16 : Angry.
You can't surpass what's already perfect.
Nah, this new version in Super is an insult. In the original, you really felt bad for Trunks. He has the most emotional transformation of them all. It brought tears to my eyes. You could almost feel his pain. The Super version is just trash. In the original you could see him slowly transforming, like it's breaking out. Not in Super.
Par for the course in Super. Not a single transformation in Super is even cool to see.
i cried too
And in the original the way gohan body looks makes everything more heart breaking but in supers version they made it look like he died a peaceful death
The old one is also form a movie. The movies always had better quality than the show, so it's not really fair to judge it based on that.
onelifetodiefor This isnt about the animation its about how this scene was directed. The history of trunks wasnt a movie it was a tv special.
I mean I'm not saying I don't enjoy the original one (The Funimation dub one, not the Japanese dub), but honestly, the 2016 one was cut short and paid less attention to because it was a short flash back scene. A lot of super is good once you get past the movie arcs that should have never been redone, and some of it they cut corners on for sure.
Gohan was powerful enough to fight both Android 17 and 18 from one hand. Respect to Gohana and I like the old animated version.
The 1995 has so much raw emotions, dub and sub. I just can't help feel the pain trunks is in. Massive props to the voice actors
It's the little things that matter. Super is in a word: clichéd. They just slap stuff together and say "alright this thing is right here let's move on". What you see in Z is believable as well as relatable. Trunks isn't just in distress, he's in misery. His eyes are leaking tears so fast you cant tell when the crying ends and the rain begins. The way he walks towards Gohan as though he were half alive, the way he stammers his name, totally in denial, clutching his lifeless body irrationally, the way he screams, clenching his fists until it bled, overcome with grief, anger, resentment, desperation. All of this with a committedly bleak and hopeless atmosphere and you have yourself a solid emotion. Super doesn't care about the authenticity of what it presents as a medium. This comparison is just a one to one slideshow of what I mean.
Good god man chill out, of course the old one would be better, It was made for a tv special and it was the first time we had seen this story before. The 2016 one was a recap in a 20 minute tv episode, why would they throw all their best animation into something they already made before?
***** Dude I don't give a shit.
Joseph Franc Classy
It doesnt matter. You also see flash backs of Trunks time in Z. It wasnt good but not as terrible as this.
Truer words have never been spoken, I couldn't agree more
1995 so better...
agree
The 2016 version was an abridged flashback, its unfair to compare them
It was first released in 1991 (japan), then it was in 1995 it was international.
Thats what i the great omni king keep on saying, see... no one can fuck with me see....
yep
The toriyama's version is always way cooler than the present ones... He presented the anger needed to excite the audience..
Gaurav Mishra Well I have news for you. He had almost no part in this
Toriyama didn't write or direct the special at all. In fact, the version of this scene from the manga is even blander than in Super, as we just see a couple of panels of Trunks finding Gohan's body and saying "Gohan-san".
Gaurav Mishra cooler isn't canon
toriyama actually is terrible at anime, he made good character designs but now he just ruined everything
Incognito he isn't talking about that cooler
The two scenes are not even comparable.
Team '95.
It’s been almost 25 years of this amazing scene, it’s one of the saddest DB scenes ever
Looks like Dbs was just a rough draft and then Dragon ball Z was the finished release film😂😂😂😂😂
Freshypool I showed this to my brother he thought 2016 was trash
The Future Trunks timeline is horrifying but it represents a world without dragon balls.
Killer I always wondered why bulma didn't just send trunks to namek so he could collect the dragon balls there and wish everyone back to life.
Killer I also wondered why goku didn't train on king kias world to become stronger than the androids and then use the instant transmission back to earth to defeat them too many plot holes. I guess going back in the past was really the best because it changed the past for the good.
About namek, remember that now its New Namek and its now in a completely different place, and kami's ship got rekt in Namek.
Also after the androids attacked, resources to make a ship with enough fuel to reach New Namek.
About the training with King Kai, if he's dead, he cant do anything (as stated in the fight against Bojack) So, not that many plot holes.
1995
Cairox 150 goku trained after he died against cell for a little while on king kias planet and was eventually able to transform into a super saiyan 3. We also find out later that goku can instant transmission from king kias planet to earth. I guess if he's dead he wouldn't be aloud to since in the buu arc he was only able to visit for some time and then he had to leave.
1995 is so dark and scary too.
1995 just different, i can really feel trunks rage and losing his only mentor and friend
1:16...gohan actually drowned on that puddle of water XD.
Shahamat Nurain lmao you're dumb..
Jacob Magau it was a joke you goddamn fucking simpleton.
Jacob Maga it could easily have been you laughing at him and telling him he's dumb not realizing the joke, how was I supposed to tell if you were being sarcastic? Also, that insult was glorious, haha.
Toriyama Sensei.. dude.. Its common sense... dont you think i would've seen the movie?.. and thanks.. i got more lol
Jacob Maga LETER RIP MEH BOI!
The original is far better, but to be fair, the super version is them recapping it, the original is it actually happening, so obviously more was put into the happening one
Thank you
So why not just use original footage?
Probably because of Trunk's hair being retconned.
They used original footage of Trunk's when his hair was purple before. However they greyed out the colours so you couldn't see what his old hair colour was
I was going to say the same thing. Original is better, but 2016 just a recap.
Man, Super really didn’t have the right emotion on his face. You don’t see the pain and anguish one bit. You wouldn’t even know he was sad if it weren’t for the tears.
You would think after 21 years they would get better with animations.
you would think after 21 years you wouldn't be watching dbz
Gifted Gamer Ik but I still think that its a good show
Niqht how can you enjoy a cartoon if you think it has bad animations
Gifted Gamer I don't judge a show based on one bad animation.
Niqht but a cartoon is literally all about animation with out that you have shit
1995!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Patrick Henry ikr
2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2016：Gohan＝nap
交通整理のアルバイト中に寝るなんてトランクスも失望ですよ…
It was better in 1995!
YUP
no
Ben Thao aré you nuts?
Kariq Hampton no
El dandy 14 u are
1995 Future Gohan: Laying face down dead against the ground as result of a tragic battle.
2016 Future Gohan: Thank God I'm dead and this is my only scene in Super.
omg the quality of 1995 was so good! and the scene way better!
0:57 trunks... where's your eyes? Lol
On his face?
1995: Am I a joke to you?
To me the part that I would says makes that whole scene land is the bit where he lightly jogs up to Gohan still in disbelief and then stops and just stares at him for a drawn out pause. It adds the emphasis to the rest of the scene that makes it hit so much harder and is incredibly subtle.
The 2016 one is still good in its own ways (like the shot of Gohan's sleeve and Trunk's feet, the music is also great) but the original one had the tone down to a T. People don't need to dunk on 2016 to make themselves feel better about something they might have seen as a kid. Both are good and we have both