While Kim's plight is sad beyond words, imagine being a 21 year old kid who accidentally brought death to his opponent in a fair fight. Ray going to Kim's funeral in Korea and facing his mother and fiancee was more brave in my eyes than any time he's stepped in the ring. That is honor and integrity at its finest. As a kid, I always looked up to Boom Boom because we were both Sicilian kids born and raised Youngstown in the same neighborhood and generation. Boom Boom has never forgotten about Youngstown. In fact he's been raising money for the families outside the city who were recently displaced by the train derailment in East Palestine. Thanks for carrying our broken city on your back no matter what, Boom Boom. We will always love you!!
The most moving part of this tragedy is that his fiance still married him, knowing that he has already passed. Thats what i call true love! Bless that lady for honoring his love for her!
th-cam.com/video/X8nMEGOjG5g/w-d-xo.html You should watch the Good Son documentary. There's a part where Ray meets Kim's wife and son for the first time, and introduces them to his family. I cried like a baby.
@@drdre4397 Did this marriage happen in the U.S.? If it did, it would be nullified because it's illegal to marry someone who is deceased. "In the U.S., federal law doesn't recognize posthumous marriage ceremonies, but a few people have tried to conduct one anyway. After Floridian Isaac Woginiak passed away, his surviving fiancée successfully filed for a marriage license in 1988."
Not to cause an argument but what does being a gentleman have anything to do with his death? He died from complications caused by a subdural hematoma. He took too many shots in the head and a blood vessel burst causing the blood to pool in his brain. It's a risk ALL BOXERS TAKE!!
Sas Quatch Tye OP was referring to Ray, not Kim. Also, the doctor who attended to Kim said that the damage was probably caused by one punch, most likely the last one or one of the last ones because nobody could have fought with the size of blood clot on the brain that he had. So he died from one punch, not several.
Truely, I fought in a high school tournament in 1988, he came for championship night( boom boom ko drugs tournament) he talked to anyone who approached him.. true gentleman, true champ
I watched this whole fight in November 1982. As a former boxer in high school, I was a huge fan of Ray Mancini. I simply could not believe the punishment I was watching both fighters dish out and accept. It was truly terrifying. Duk Koo Kim, you died an honorable man and you are remembered.
I binge on Ray content every few months when I look at all his signed trunks and gloves that I own. Literally the guy who got me into the sport that has been my life for decades now. They dont make them like Ray. As good a fighter as ever existed and as good as a man as well. If not for the heartbreak of that Kim fight which just destroyed Boom Boom as an upstanding Catholic man, he would have had a much longer and more award winning career.
It's even more heartbreaking when you learn about the life Duk-koo Kim had before boxing. When he was very young, he survived the same condition that killed his father. His mother, Sun-nyo, married another man. The man's son was violent and abusive, so Kim's mother escaped with Duk-koo and his siblings. They went to Banam, a poor fishing village near the DMZ and North Korean border. Things were so bad that the family had to share an outhouse with a cow. Kim's mother met her next husband, a fisherman, when she was begging in the street for food. As a child, Duk-koo often went swimming for seafood and caught locusts and rabbits to eat. As a child, Duk-koo's stepbrother made him fight with other kids. Duk-koo eventually got to Seoul by selling pencils, waiting tables, etc. That's where he began boxing. He was not a great technical fighter and didn't particularly excel in any one area, but he had no choice but to fight. Boxing was all he had. He was fighting out of necessity for survival. He also had an insane amount of toughness and an unbreakable will. He became even more confident, courageous, and determined when he starting dating Young-mee and she became pregnant with his child. He was finally going to have the healthy family life he had always wanted. It really puts things into perspective and adds an extra layer of tragedy to the whole situation.
I remember watching that live on TV with my uncle and cousin. It was brutal! Back and forth neither man would go down. Thrilling and tragic at the same time. No quit in either, but when Kim went down they went to commercial and when they came back Kim was still down. I'll never forget it! Kim was one tough SOB as was Boom Boom.
Duk-Koo Kim's childhood was a poor and hard knock life. His father died when he was 1 years old (2 years old in Korean age), his mom went through three different marriages and Duk-Koo himself ran away from home at age 17 being tired of constant fights with his half siblings and his stepdad didn't even let him go to school. He moved to Seoul and worked as a shoe shine boy, tour guide, doing manual labors...just about anything to survive. He must have learned the importance of education because he finished high school while working at those jobs. Boxing was the passion he found afer going through everything and his style of boxing reflects his life.
The only solace I get is seeing the Good Son and seeing his wife and son doing ok. Knowing what he went through to get to that fight, only for that result is heartbreaking.
Boom boom Mancini : not only a pro boxer ... but a Pro human being and a man full of true feelings and values. Thank You very much for this very meaning documentary.
Mancini is deserving of much respect and admiration. He has talent but also spirituality, compassion and empathy. Not a braggard and brute. A fine human being. How he mourned, prayed for and embraced Kim's fiancee and son is very heart-felt. May GOD May speed and GOD Bless him where ever he goes and in all he does. A true warrior physically, spritually and mentally. He didn't have to blame himself for the tradgedy. A brute with no character would have shrugged it off...👍👆💪
An eerie moment for me was watching this video and seeing Sean Taylor's name crawl across the bottom of the screen. Sean Taylor, a superior defensive back for the Washington Redskins, would later be murdered in his home during a "hot break-in".
Salt of the earth is an accurate discription of Mancini.I know,I grew up around families of this character.This is the true American Italian man.Handling adversity,moving pass it.Humble men,tough as a lion with a heart of gold and beyond loyal.Class act unlike that douchebag Bramble.I absolutlely know if it was the other way around it would never even entered Mancini's head to call him a murderer.What do you exspect from a fool who into witchcraft.While Mancini is still a positive productive guy with a net worth over 6 million.Bramble is a personal trainer who bums around shows selling autograph's.Now that shit is killing me
As a 16 yr. old I watched it Live on CBS Sat. 11/13/82 which was the day after another great 14 Rounds of action produced by the Pryor vs. Arguello fight in Miami. Never seen such a non-stop slugfest up to that point and it went on like that round after round until the 14th. Just incredible. Not to mention they were fighting out in the desert of Las Vegas. I'll never forget that day and that amazing fight which unfortunately ended in tragedy. I also agree with some of the people making comments on here and that is Mancini wasn't the same fighter after this fight. It absolutely affected him.
I have a bottle of Boom Boom Bourbon signed by him I was contacted to be a sparring partner years ago for Kenny “ Bang Bang “ Bogner when he was to fight Boom Boom that would have been a great fight but it never happened I think Bogner got into some trouble
I think this was rather well done. The producers took some great pains to humanize both Mancini and Kim and they succeeded. The hopes, aspirations, and the tragedies of these fighters are all present here.
Ray has a great heart, is a kind human being, and had good boxing skills.He was outmatched by the outstanding boxers Livingstone Bramble, Alexis Arguello, and Hector Camacho - three great boxers of the modern era.
Raymond God Bless U , I don't have the Words .. I remember this I was Just little kid.. UR A Hero too a lot of Us Italian Catholic people. Much Love 2U & UR Family.. UR A Hero too Lot's of people regardless of Faith & Race.
I lived in Youngstown then while attending Youngstown State University and even was involved in amateur boxing for a time as a referee and corner man. Have nothing but fond memories of those days and some other fighters deserve mention: Eddie Graves, Harry Aroyo, William Whipple, Jeffrey Lambkin, Jeff Tate, Greg and Randy Richardson, Michael Dokes, and of course Earnie Shavers 'the hardest puncher in heavyweight history'
It takes a brave and courageous man like Kim to get up and you are dying at the same time, RIP to Kim and thoughts to his family. Ray is a class act on and out of the ring
What a tragedy, but the fight itself is a classic. I have never seen a more 50/50 fight like this. Ray seems so nice and humble guy. Duk Koo Kim, what a warrior world lost in him. Rest In Peace Champ.
Kim had so much heart it’s amazing . He did not give up at all. They are both phenomenal boxers. I understand Mancini blaming himself because he did technically beat him to death but it was completely unintentional and the fact that Kim didn’t back down, made Mancini think he was ok. Just a tragedy. I hope Ray finds eternal peace. May Kim, his mother and the Ref rest peacefully. This is one of the saddest stories in boxing
Thanks for this interesting show, Islander. Watched this fight live on tv. For some strange reason, before this it had never occurred to me that someone actually could get seriously hurt in a boxing match. Cast my vote for 12 rounds. In boxing, as opposed to other sports, the stakes become too high when these athletes start reaching the limit of their stamina and endurance.
If you have seen all or most of Ray's fights, you can clearly see, he was not the same fighter after this fight, he had less desire and heart, and I believe in the back of his mind, he never forgot that fight, even while in the ring, and it hurt him in every fight thereafter, he did not go 110% as he always did.
It was a fair fight. It was one of those fights on survival of the fittest. Nothing you can do about it. The only mistake was fighting outdoors. Glad they don't do that anymore. Stay inside.
watched the movie "champion" the other night, not knowing it was a true story. i end up looking into it to and end up realizing the story of duk koo kim gets more and more interesting. after seeing this documentary, watching the movie again will more than likely get me a little teary, granted im not very emotional upon watching dramatic films. as pointed out in the documentary, this would be best described as a modern day shakespearean tragedy
Every man who enters the ring, that includes women now, knows they have the chance of losing their life. This is a VERY dangerous sport. You must train to save your life and NO ONE did that more than Ray. That doesn't make it any easier when you have an opponent that dies. Kim was not murdered he died. Anyone taking up the sport needs to know the possible consequences because no matter how well trained you are a flick to the right spot or a host of other things with your heart which could happen walking down the street can kill you. I love the sport and I love 15 rounds but I do not agree with this Octagon MMA fighting which is ridiculous and I believe people watch it in the hopes of seeing someone die. BOXING is such a beautiful sport and I hope it never dies.
I don't think we need to worry, Boxing seems to be on the way out, I use to love it, growing up in the 70s, watching it on the Wide World of sports, but now all the fighters are going MMA, which actually in my opinion is less dangerous as they don't take near as many punches and careers are very short, as only the best can survive and they don't even last long once they begin to lose, but boxing is dying a slow death.
I remember watching this fight at age 25... and screaming from the dinner table... why doesn’t this referee stop the fight. After watching/ listening to the Ali/Frazier fights at 14/15 years old... this showed me boxing is not sport it’s savagery.
In the old days it was nothing to fight 20 or more rounds, with lighter gloves, and they had no more deaths than modern times, but it is a fact the more you fight the more brain damage you can suffer, it's not normal to take blows to the head without damage.
I watch this fight with my father-in-law,I told him after the first round that someone was going to die.HOW i WISH i WAS WRONG.all you can says it was unbeliveable. my hart goes out to both families.
Man I wish I had his mindset just like his brother you pick up the pieces you move on. easier said than done. but apparently it's possible hopefully one day I'll pick up the pieces of whatever's left and move on
I ❤ Boom Boom, but, i think he almost knew one of us will die....that was Kim's mentality. Ray is a fighter. He didn't sign up for this....and it ruined him. Such a good soul.
I just watched the Johnny Owen/Lupe Pintor tragedy last night and it's a heartbreaking reality of the sport. Any fighter on any given night runs the risk of getting killed. It could've very easily gone the other way. That's why I have nothing but the utmost respect for any fighter who steps in the ring. We never want to see anyone lose their life.
This is the saddest story in boxing I ever heard. Mancini accidentally kills Kim in his fight and then Duk Koo Kim mother and the referee commit suicide. It's horrifying when you think about it. I don't know how Mancini managed. I know a cousin of Boom Boom in Chicago, and he told me Mancini took the deaths a lot worse than portrayed in this video. He was never the same. Mancini's brother accidentally shot by his girlfriend. Every time a woman shoots a guy it's an accident.
everybody ray took the news of kim and he was depressed when he found out kim died i watched thhat fight ,that fight should have been stopped what they are not showing is the entire thing ray beg that ref to stop that fight god rest his soul ,everyone i no that watched said the same thing ,stop the fight you could see kim was not right ,,,,,,even as he layed dying in the ring ,i feel for hts mom god rest her soul but boxing did change that day,boom boom keep your chin up
I've watched this match many, many times, and there was absolutely no reason for referee Richard Green to stop the fight. None whatsoever. I hope Green didn't take his own life over because of his management of the match. He made no error. If you know much about professional boxing, you know it's a shame to see former professional boxing referee Richard Steele passing commentary on anything to do with professional boxing. At the end of his career, this man's decisions were so faulty as to lead one to believe he was paid to make them.
Like they said, every time Greene wanted to step in and stop the fight, Kim would come back and go on the offensive again. I am surprised Greene didn't stop it when Ray threw 39 unanswered punches, though.
*the referee of this fight was the guilty of this tragedy,he didn't stop the fight even seeing kim's situation,completely out of condition to keep fighting*
I felt like shit when the tragedy happened, because I had a stupid personal grudge against Mancini and I realized what a young selfish shit I was after this. Mancini and I are the same age. No one here will believe the story, so I won't tell it. It involved a girl. A really, really, really hot semi-famous girl. Suffice it to say that he got the girl and I didn't. Although I was supposed to. Damn. Anyway, Mancini seems like a decent guy, and didn't deserve to be saddled with such tragedy.
Now I know everyone's going to say this sounds crazy. but what if the mindset of Kim you know having a coffin around saying either he's going to die or I'm going to die got him killed. the mine is a very strong thing have you ever noticed when people are together for a long time when one dies even with animals the other one dies like 6 months or a year later. so what if that mindset got him killed because the fight look like any other fight accept fist flying crazy. but it didn't look like he was going to die. He wasn't on the ropes like Rocky 4 and the ref didn't stop you know and he's just getting wailed for like an hour he covered up the whole fight some of those punches Missed Kim I think if it was eight rounds Kim would have won 12 rounds it was damn close. and they said that one punch that killed him was that last hit .so what if it was the mindset. I don't know. The mind is a very powerful thing. But just a thought
Flowey - You don't get it do you? People are always going to die as a result of boxing, amateur or pro, bums or championship quality. Nothing you or I can do will stop it. Dieallday is absolutely correct in a 15rd bout Taylor does not beat Hopkins once let alone twice. ODLH may have never won a real world title if they were contested over 15 rds. The list goes on and on of guys who just coast to the finish line of 12rds that would have NEVER won titles if they had to go 15 that's my arguement.
You got that right! Mancini is a better man than I, b/c if it was me and he called me a murderer I would have looked him straight in the eye and said, "If I'm a murderer then I guess that means you should be real worried when we get in the ring!" As I said earlier in another comment Bramble was a 2nd rate champion who got blown away by the 1st elite boxer he faced Edwin Rosario.
While Kim's plight is sad beyond words, imagine being a 21 year old kid who accidentally brought death to his opponent in a fair fight. Ray going to Kim's funeral in Korea and facing his mother and fiancee was more brave in my eyes than any time he's stepped in the ring. That is honor and integrity at its finest. As a kid, I always looked up to Boom Boom because we were both Sicilian kids born and raised Youngstown in the same neighborhood and generation. Boom Boom has never forgotten about Youngstown. In fact he's been raising money for the families outside the city who were recently displaced by the train derailment in East Palestine. Thanks for carrying our broken city on your back no matter what, Boom Boom. We will always love you!!
The most moving part of this tragedy is that his fiance still married him, knowing that he has already passed. Thats what i call true love! Bless that lady for honoring his love for her!
kevin pham yes that are old good times,today its different
Wait, Mancini married Kims fiancee?!?!
@@jamesmiller6217 No Kim's fiancée posthumously married Kim. She was pregnant with their child the night this happened.
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You should watch the Good Son documentary. There's a part where Ray meets Kim's wife and son for the first time, and introduces them to his family. I cried like a baby.
@@drdre4397 Did this marriage happen in the U.S.? If it did, it would be nullified because it's illegal to marry someone who is deceased. "In the U.S., federal law doesn't recognize posthumous marriage ceremonies, but a few people have tried to conduct one anyway. After Floridian Isaac Woginiak passed away, his surviving fiancée successfully filed for a marriage license in 1988."
Thanks for uploading. One of the ironies is that Ray Mancini is one of the nicest men you will ever find in sports.
A true gentleman
Not to cause an argument but what does being a gentleman have anything to do with his death? He died from complications caused by a subdural hematoma. He took too many shots in the head and a blood vessel burst causing the blood to pool in his brain. It's a risk ALL BOXERS TAKE!!
Sas Quatch Tye OP was referring to Ray, not Kim.
Also, the doctor who attended to Kim said that the damage was probably caused by one punch, most likely the last one or one of the last ones because nobody could have fought with the size of blood clot on the brain that he had. So he died from one punch, not several.
Truely, I fought in a high school tournament in 1988, he came for championship night( boom boom ko drugs tournament) he talked to anyone who approached him.. true gentleman, true champ
I watched this whole fight in November 1982. As a former boxer in high school, I was a huge fan of Ray Mancini. I simply could not believe the punishment I was watching both fighters dish out and accept. It was truly terrifying. Duk Koo Kim, you died an honorable man and you are remembered.
I binge on Ray content every few months when I look at all his signed trunks and gloves that I own. Literally the guy who got me into the sport that has been my life for decades now.
They dont make them like Ray. As good a fighter as ever existed and as good as a man as well. If not for the heartbreak of that Kim fight which just destroyed Boom Boom as an upstanding Catholic man, he would have had a much longer and more award winning career.
I cried watching this documentary. I have so much respect for these great fighters. RIP Duk Koo Kim. *Deeply bows*
As a Korean, I still remember Kim Deuk-goo. A real fighter. He showed what is boxing. RIP Kim & always happy Mr. Mancini.
김득구 형, 항상 평안하소서...
There were no winners, Kim suffered, Kims family suffered, the ref suffered and Ray suffered.
A tragedy all round.
It's even more heartbreaking when you learn about the life Duk-koo Kim had before boxing. When he was very young, he survived the same condition that killed his father. His mother, Sun-nyo, married another man. The man's son was violent and abusive, so Kim's mother escaped with Duk-koo and his siblings. They went to Banam, a poor fishing village near the DMZ and North Korean border. Things were so bad that the family had to share an outhouse with a cow. Kim's mother met her next husband, a fisherman, when she was begging in the street for food. As a child, Duk-koo often went swimming for seafood and caught locusts and rabbits to eat. As a child, Duk-koo's stepbrother made him fight with other kids. Duk-koo eventually got to Seoul by selling pencils, waiting tables, etc. That's where he began boxing. He was not a great technical fighter and didn't particularly excel in any one area, but he had no choice but to fight. Boxing was all he had. He was fighting out of necessity for survival. He also had an insane amount of toughness and an unbreakable will. He became even more confident, courageous, and determined when he starting dating Young-mee and she became pregnant with his child. He was finally going to have the healthy family life he had always wanted.
It really puts things into perspective and adds an extra layer of tragedy to the whole situation.
This man is one of my favorite boxers ever. A true gentleman in and out of the ring. Hall of famer through and through
I remember watching that live on TV with my uncle and cousin. It was brutal! Back and forth neither man would go down. Thrilling and tragic at the same time. No quit in either, but when Kim went down they went to commercial and when they came back Kim was still down. I'll never forget it! Kim was one tough SOB as was Boom Boom.
I also watched it live. It was a great fight. Felt awful afterwards. Kim was an absolute warrior. So was Boom Boom.
Duk-Koo Kim's childhood was a poor and hard knock life. His father died when he was 1 years old (2 years old in Korean age), his mom went through three different marriages and Duk-Koo himself ran away from home at age 17 being tired of constant fights with his half siblings and his stepdad didn't even let him go to school. He moved to Seoul and worked as a shoe shine boy, tour guide, doing manual labors...just about anything to survive. He must have learned the importance of education because he finished high school while working at those jobs. Boxing was the passion he found afer going through everything and his style of boxing reflects his life.
The only solace I get is seeing the Good Son and seeing his wife and son doing ok. Knowing what he went through to get to that fight, only for that result is heartbreaking.
Boom boom Mancini : not only a pro boxer ... but a Pro human being and a man full of true feelings and values.
Thank You very much for this very meaning documentary.
These days younger folks have zero idea who Ray Mancini was or just how good of a fighter he was. Boom Boom Mancini was a great fighter.
Great viewing R.i.P kim ...stay strong mancini both warriors of the ring
ray Mancini .. no doubt, one of boxing's finest!
Give Kim credit warrior...R.I.P.
He was a hell of a fighter. RIP Kim
Anyone who hasn't seen "The Good Son" should stop what they're doing, immediately, and do so. It's genuinely brilliant.
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With McCauley Culkin?
Read the book it is a very good read
mike lomez No. It's a documentary
Mancini is deserving of much respect and admiration. He has talent but also spirituality, compassion and empathy. Not a braggard and brute. A fine human being. How he mourned, prayed for and embraced Kim's fiancee and son is very heart-felt. May GOD May speed and GOD Bless him where ever he goes and in all he does. A true warrior physically, spritually and mentally. He didn't have to blame himself for the tradgedy. A brute with no character would have shrugged it off...👍👆💪
I'm a Youngstown born bread,1966 it was a great place. Ive met boom boom on the streets.
Ray had zero choice.....Kim was an absolute killer...kill or be killed..but, that comes with a price.
just watched the Johnny Owen story, my god the lighterweight boxers seem to produce the bravest fighters, rip kim, his mother and Richard Greene
They sure do, Johnny is disciplined in his boxing, Ray and Kim were controlled brawlers, great fighters all three of them
An eerie moment for me was watching this video and seeing Sean Taylor's name crawl across the bottom of the screen. Sean Taylor, a superior defensive back for the Washington Redskins, would later be murdered in his home during a "hot break-in".
I thought the same thing when I saw his name on the screen.
This fight happened in 1982, sean taylor died in 2007.
@@shawngamble1025 What does the year of the fight have to do with Sean Taylor's name scrolling across the screen when this video was originally aired?
@@shaquanjamison8161 i thought about that afterwards, my bad!
Seeing Kim's mom is pretty heartbreaking
Salt of the earth is an accurate discription of Mancini.I know,I grew up around families of this character.This is the true American Italian man.Handling adversity,moving pass it.Humble men,tough as a lion with a heart of gold and beyond loyal.Class act unlike that douchebag Bramble.I absolutlely know if it was the other way around it would never even entered Mancini's head to call him a murderer.What do you exspect from a fool who into witchcraft.While Mancini is still a positive productive guy with a net worth over 6 million.Bramble is a personal trainer who bums around shows selling autograph's.Now that shit is killing me
As a 16 yr. old I watched it Live on CBS Sat. 11/13/82 which was the day after another great 14 Rounds of action produced by the Pryor vs. Arguello fight in Miami.
Never seen such a non-stop slugfest up to that point and it went on like that round after round until the 14th. Just incredible. Not to mention they were fighting out in the desert of Las Vegas.
I'll never forget that day and that amazing fight which unfortunately ended in tragedy.
I also agree with some of the people making comments on here and that is Mancini wasn't the same fighter after this fight. It absolutely affected him.
He is still a legend around my area where I live, the Youngstown/New Castle area. :)
cleveland boy right here
He’s an Italian American icon .
@@vinny6685 I met him 2 times, very, very nice guy. Not sure if he still has his cigar company in Youngstown.
I have a bottle of Boom Boom Bourbon signed by him I was contacted to be a sparring partner years ago for Kenny “ Bang Bang “ Bogner when he was to fight Boom Boom that would have been a great fight but it never happened I think Bogner got into some trouble
@@vidgameman73 monica lewinsky owns that now.
Great documentary . Thanks for posting this !!!
I think this was rather well done. The producers took some great pains to humanize both Mancini and Kim and they succeeded. The hopes, aspirations, and the tragedies of these fighters are all present here.
Watch "The Good Son", a 2015 documentary about Ray Mancini. It does an even better job imo
@@terminallumbago6465 I'll certainly look that up. Thank you for the suggestion.
I will never forget this fight it still affects me to this day
Ray has a great heart, is a kind human being, and had good boxing skills.He was outmatched by the outstanding boxers Livingstone Bramble, Alexis Arguello, and Hector Camacho - three great boxers of the modern era.
Raymond God Bless U , I don't have the Words .. I remember this I was Just little kid.. UR A Hero too a lot of Us Italian Catholic people. Much Love 2U & UR Family.. UR A Hero too Lot's of people regardless of Faith & Race.
Rip Duk Koo Kim...
I lived in Youngstown then while attending Youngstown State University and even was involved in amateur boxing for a time as a referee and corner man. Have nothing but fond memories of those days and some other fighters deserve mention: Eddie Graves, Harry Aroyo, William Whipple, Jeffrey Lambkin, Jeff Tate, Greg and Randy Richardson, Michael Dokes, and of course Earnie Shavers 'the hardest puncher in heavyweight history'
Awesome documentary.
Thanks for uploading! Great viewing!
Happy holidays Stork..Thanks for the two videos. As I recall you downloaded a few for us during last years holiday. Merry Christmas.
great video. I didnt know much about mancini before this. THANKS
Thanks for the upload islander, i never knew this happened, it was very sad, it was a really great documentary. Merry Christmas man :)
It takes a brave and courageous man like Kim to get up and you are dying at the same time, RIP to Kim and thoughts to his family. Ray is a class act on and out of the ring
Both men deserved to walk out of the ring that day with their heads held up high 😢
Canadian fighter Gaetan Hart, killed two fighters( back to back ).How sad.
Wrong
@@Bruins-vq5ey Yep, My bad! He killed Cleveland Denny,and six weeks before that fight, he put Ralph Racine in a coma!
@@jimbo1959 almost 2
@@Bruins-vq5ey No! NOT ALMOST! Google it!
"They made hypocrite statements after the fact, but the name of the game is be hit and hit back" - Warren Zevon
What a tragedy, but the fight itself is a classic. I have never seen a more 50/50 fight like this. Ray seems so nice and humble guy. Duk Koo Kim, what a warrior world lost in him. Rest In Peace Champ.
1 fight and 3 dead. RIP all those who passed.
Kim had so much heart it’s amazing . He did not give up at all. They are both phenomenal boxers. I understand Mancini blaming himself because he did technically beat him to death but it was completely unintentional and the fact that Kim didn’t back down, made Mancini think he was ok. Just a tragedy. I hope Ray finds eternal peace. May Kim, his mother and the Ref rest peacefully. This is one of the saddest stories in boxing
Thanks for this interesting show, Islander.
Watched this fight live on tv. For some strange reason, before this it had never occurred to me that someone actually could get seriously hurt in a boxing match.
Cast my vote for 12 rounds. In boxing, as opposed to other sports, the stakes become too high when these athletes start reaching the limit of their stamina and endurance.
If you have seen all or most of Ray's fights, you can clearly see, he was not the same fighter after this fight, he had less desire and heart, and I believe in the back of his mind, he never forgot that fight, even while in the ring, and it hurt him in every fight thereafter, he did not go 110% as he always did.
I agree that's a tough thing to live with.its hard to fight again after a tragedy like that.
Yes i agree.
"2.5 months after the tragedy Mancini was in Italy for his next fight" Boy things were different in those days. Sheesh.
“At the end of a Shakespearean tragedy the stage is littered with bodies”. Great analogy.
Thank God they stopped those hot ass Saturday afternoon fights in the Nevada desert. They never should’ve had this fight at that time of day.
In boxing, death like Kim's are fatal accidents..
I know how Kim's mother felt. I almost committed suicide when my son died.
What's your thoughts today?
Is it easier or you just learn to live with it...?
Love Ya Ray not your Fault ...still Champ.Homeboy.
It was a fair fight. It was one of those fights on survival of the fittest. Nothing you can do about it. The only mistake was fighting outdoors. Glad they don't do that anymore. Stay inside.
Doctors who save or try to save us are the real Supermen of our society.
watched the movie "champion" the other night, not knowing it was a true story. i end up looking into it to and end up realizing the story of duk koo kim gets more and more interesting. after seeing this documentary, watching the movie again will more than likely get me a little teary, granted im not very emotional upon watching dramatic films. as pointed out in the documentary, this would be best described as a modern day shakespearean tragedy
I saw it too and liked it a lot and it led me down the ray mancini story and man it’s all so relatable and amazing and sad.
RIP Duk-koo Kim
RIP Sun-nyo Kim
RIP Richard Greene
half of my friends were stabbed or shot by their wives. Listening to this, its like another "Black Widow Story" Mancini family was a good family
What a tragedy. Puts technical fighters like Mayweather to shame
Great documentary about a sad turn of events in boxing I also like the one where Mancini meets Kim’s son
Thank you for this INFO
Kim was a fighter. Paid ultimate price. He was willing. I respect that True fighter!!!!!!
The first time Kim hit the ropes this fight should've been stopped.
Every man who enters the ring, that includes women now, knows they have the chance of losing their life. This is a VERY dangerous sport. You must train to save your life and NO ONE did that more than Ray. That doesn't make it any easier when you have an opponent that dies. Kim was not murdered he died. Anyone taking up the sport needs to know the possible consequences because no matter how well trained you are a flick to the right spot or a host of other things with your heart which could happen walking down the street can kill you. I love the sport and I love 15 rounds but I do not agree with this Octagon MMA fighting which is ridiculous and I believe people watch it in the hopes of seeing someone die. BOXING is such a beautiful sport and I hope it never dies.
Ray is absolutely a victim of that tragedy too.
I don't think we need to worry, Boxing seems to be on the way out, I use to love it, growing up in the 70s, watching it on the Wide World of sports, but now all the fighters are going MMA, which actually in my opinion is less dangerous as they don't take near as many punches and careers are very short, as only the best can survive and they don't even last long once they begin to lose, but boxing is dying a slow death.
I remember watching this fight at age 25... and screaming from the dinner table... why doesn’t this referee stop the fight. After watching/ listening to the Ali/Frazier fights at 14/15 years old... this showed me boxing is not sport it’s savagery.
It seems like there are nowhere near as many huge boxing matches nowadays as there used to be
In the old days it was nothing to fight 20 or more rounds, with lighter gloves, and they had no more deaths than modern times, but it is a fact the more you fight the more brain damage you can suffer, it's not normal to take blows to the head without damage.
good documentary
Just sad for everyone
What a great soul 🏆
I wasn't very old when I seen the fight it was brutal they both went at it hard
@shangrigreige Not to my knowledge, and you're right about Bramble who was a 2nd rate champion who got what was coming to him in September 1986
I watch this fight with my father-in-law,I told him after the first round that someone was going to die.HOW i WISH i WAS WRONG.all you can says it was unbeliveable. my hart goes out to both families.
Boom boom used the same exact grave stone engraving for his brother that I used for my brother when he died in 2006. Just noticed that at the end.
9:40, check the ticker at the bottom ~ Kevin Durrant, 10 pts for THE SONICS
RIP his Achilles
So to Ray and the family, should you read this: all my best to you. I like boxers who show their heart, and Ray did like few others.
Kim: Takes 700 punches to the head
Sugar Ray Leonard: "I just thought he was dehydrated."
Probably a combination of both. That's quite likely.
WOW.... i didnt touch my lunch or drink once into this.. thanks islander.
Wow....
Man I wish I had his mindset just like his brother you pick up the pieces you move on. easier said than done. but apparently it's possible hopefully one day I'll pick up the pieces of whatever's left and move on
I ❤ Boom Boom, but, i think he almost knew one of us will die....that was Kim's mentality. Ray is a fighter. He didn't sign up for this....and it ruined him. Such a good soul.
dude for the right price you would be surprised to see what the fighters would do
Yeah I wouldn't delete the recording
I just watched the Johnny Owen/Lupe Pintor tragedy last night and it's a heartbreaking reality of the sport. Any fighter on any given night runs the risk of getting killed. It could've very easily gone the other way. That's why I have nothing but the utmost respect for any fighter who steps in the ring. We never want to see anyone lose their life.
Mike Tyson called it the unwritten rule in boxing that you know there is a possibility you could die every time you get in the ring.
This is the saddest story in boxing I ever heard. Mancini accidentally kills Kim in his fight and then Duk Koo Kim mother and the referee commit suicide. It's horrifying when you think about it. I don't know how Mancini managed. I know a cousin of Boom Boom in Chicago, and he told me Mancini took the deaths a lot worse than portrayed in this video. He was never the same. Mancini's brother accidentally shot by his girlfriend. Every time a woman shoots a guy it's an accident.
Tony Fressola It wasn’t accidental since that’s his job. You’re just rambling
everybody ray took the news of kim and he was depressed when he found out kim died i watched thhat fight ,that fight should have been stopped what they are not showing is the entire thing ray beg that ref to stop that fight god rest his soul ,everyone i no that watched said the same thing ,stop the fight you could see kim was not right ,,,,,,even as he layed dying in the ring ,i feel for hts mom god rest her soul but boxing did change that day,boom boom keep your chin up
Lies
I've watched this match many, many times, and there was absolutely no reason for referee Richard Green to stop the fight. None whatsoever. I hope Green didn't take his own life over because of his management of the match. He made no error.
If you know much about professional boxing, you know it's a shame to see former professional boxing referee Richard Steele passing commentary on anything to do with professional boxing. At the end of his career, this man's decisions were so faulty as to lead one to believe he was paid to make them.
I thought Richard Greene did nothing wrong. He was a solid referee in that fight. Did the best he could.
Like they said, every time Greene wanted to step in and stop the fight, Kim would come back and go on the offensive again. I am surprised Greene didn't stop it when Ray threw 39 unanswered punches, though.
Everyone should watch Champion, it's a movie done about Duk Koo Kim's life and path. It's actually really good/well done, but rather sad.
Ray Ray is a true hero.
Ray Mancini is a nice guy.
*the referee of this fight was the guilty of this tragedy,he didn't stop the fight even seeing kim's situation,completely out of condition to keep fighting*
Wow!
Deuk-goo Kim’s unborn son became a dentist lately.
I felt like shit when the tragedy happened, because I had a stupid personal grudge against Mancini and I realized what a young selfish shit I was after this. Mancini and I are the same age. No one here will believe the story, so I won't tell it. It involved a girl. A really, really, really hot semi-famous girl. Suffice it to say that he got the girl and I didn't. Although I was supposed to. Damn. Anyway, Mancini seems like a decent guy, and didn't deserve to be saddled with such tragedy.
fairalways thank you sharing amazing story.
It is very appropriate that President Trump advertised during this video. He will be the only one standing when the 2020 election is over!
Wrong, Trump lost!!!!!
Instead of TV commercials we get ads
Now I know everyone's going to say this sounds crazy. but what if the mindset of Kim you know having a coffin around saying either he's going to die or I'm going to die got him killed. the mine is a very strong thing have you ever noticed when people are together for a long time when one dies even with animals the other one dies like 6 months or a year later. so what if that mindset got him killed because the fight look like any other fight accept fist flying crazy. but it didn't look like he was going to die. He wasn't on the ropes like Rocky 4 and the ref didn't stop you know and he's just getting wailed for like an hour he covered up the whole fight some of those punches Missed Kim I think if it was eight rounds Kim would have won 12 rounds it was damn close. and they said that one punch that killed him was that last hit .so what if it was the mindset. I don't know. The mind is a very powerful thing. But just a thought
Rok marines had proven the South Korean valor and drive at least 30 years earlier.
Flowey - You don't get it do you? People are always going to die as a result of boxing, amateur or pro, bums or championship quality. Nothing you or I can do will stop it.
Dieallday is absolutely correct in a 15rd bout Taylor does not beat Hopkins once let alone twice.
ODLH may have never won a real world title if they were contested over 15 rds. The list goes on and on of guys who just coast to the finish line of 12rds that would have NEVER won titles if they had to go 15 that's my arguement.
Nobody said it was, the only thing that was from 1982 is the footage shown from the fight itself.
You got that right! Mancini is a better man than I, b/c if it was me and he called me a murderer I would have looked him straight in the eye and said, "If I'm a murderer then I guess that means you should be real worried when we get in the ring!" As I said earlier in another comment Bramble was a 2nd rate champion who got blown away by the 1st elite boxer he faced Edwin Rosario.
Ray should drilled Bramble between the legs.
Great Sportsman: Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini.