Nice to see some real Judo and wrestling get its proper due... too many things grappling based these days seems to be 'named-and-claimed' or relabeled as BJJ. As far as the 'doesn't-work on experienced grapplers brigade' goes, Derrick does a great job of explaining when/how these throws work, setups and combinations. Great job.
I like the verbal descriptions (such as "drunken superman"). I am a fan of having names to describe moves (such as with "10th planet jiu jitsu" and the "pimp arm" or the "dog fight"). Thanks
Glad you like it Darren. We have an video you might like scheduled for Sept. 30 with John Saylor, Derrick and Mike showing a no gi version of Uchi Mata to an Ankle Pick.
+darren roache I hope this is helpful to you in answer to your concerns Darren. Derrick, Mike and I discussed what you wrote to me and tried to address it. The approach we take to forming the figure four Hadaka Jime allows for really good control of the choking/strangling action and has proven successful for our athletes. It may not be a whole lot different than other approaches, but we thought that might be helpful to you as well for others. By the way, thanks for bringing this subject up-it makes me a better coach.
@ToTheBatmobile: I wish to respectfully disagree with this comment. It might be that you are able to imagine a throwing technique in bunkai and you may keep this in mind when you perform kata, but if youre not literally, physically throwing each other and being thrown, then youre not doing judo. it might be that some karate dojo incorporate some judo techniques (i know that some do and i respect that) but if "Troll Allday" (lol) wants to learn how to throw people, s/he is not going to learn to do that effectively by imagining throwing techniques in kata.
yah ignore the other guy, try Judo. even if he was correct in his assertion why would you avoid getting double your training partners and twice as many instructors? if you can afford it try to add Judo in!
@@emperorjimmu9941 Yeah this dude is right. There are documented techniques wrtten by the old masters of Karate which shows some throws (I think there were 7 or 9ish? -> have to look up in givhin funakoshis karate-do shohei) but yeah it's also true that you arenot thrilling them against a REAL resisting oponent but a dummy as trainings partner (nix für ungut) .
Like these guys and Drunken Superman is a great name but bad technique. Why practice something you know only works on clueless people. There’s no control and I’ve seen this end badly with even (advanced BJJ) white belts
Thanks for your comment. Not everyone is an expert and sometimes even experts get fooled. We've used this with good success and seen others use it as well in various grappling sports and at different levels of competition.
welcomematstevescott I hear you and appreciate where you’re coming from. Most people I train with in BJJ cross train in both judo and wrestling . I think you guys do great videos.
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Nice to see some real Judo and wrestling get its proper due... too many things grappling based these days seems to be 'named-and-claimed' or relabeled as BJJ. As far as the 'doesn't-work on experienced grapplers brigade' goes, Derrick does a great job of explaining when/how these throws work, setups and combinations. Great job.
Thank you Ursa! You made my day!
the salty shade at BJJ guys was excellent. I love this video.
salty shade at my BJJ peeps oh no now I gotta watch it with the sound on!
I like the verbal descriptions (such as "drunken superman"). I am a fan of having names to describe moves (such as with "10th planet jiu jitsu" and the "pimp arm" or the "dog fight"). Thanks
steve im re watching this video I love it that drunken superman is very effective thanks bro nice stuff
Glad you like it Darren. We have an video you might like scheduled for Sept. 30 with John Saylor, Derrick and Mike showing a no gi version of Uchi Mata to an Ankle Pick.
I've always wanted to make it to one of your seminars. I love the tradition mixed with modern sense
Thank you. Hopefully, we will be able to start doing them again in 2021.
Bill Hader is teaching us grappling
excellent video steve thank you
+darren roache I hope this is helpful to you in answer to your concerns Darren. Derrick, Mike and I discussed what you wrote to me and tried to address it. The approach we take to forming the figure four Hadaka Jime allows for really good control of the choking/strangling action and has proven successful for our athletes. It may not be a whole lot different than other approaches, but we thought that might be helpful to you as well for others. By the way, thanks for bringing this subject up-it makes me a better coach.
I do all these takedowns and throws and more into leglock submissions and armbars.
drunken superman very good idone it for years ago but didn't know what it already exists.
What a motley crew.
Genius!
I mean it 0w0
Thx for the enlightenment from long experience and deep study.
Thank you!
Another winner!!!
Thank you Jun!
Brush knee-twist step in tai chi. Great stuff! Learned alot from how to hit O-soto-gari when then pop their butt out in a half sprall defense.
Glad you like it-thanks for your comment!
I can't get over how they're on hard floors. Ouch
Actually, not too bad. It's a good wooden basketball floor that has some give to it and the mats they have are excellent.
Ty
I do Karate and i think of trying Judo soon
Troll Allday Judo is a part of Karate! Try to analyze your Kata deeper.
@ToTheBatmobile: I wish to respectfully disagree with this comment. It might be that you are able to imagine a throwing technique in bunkai and you may keep this in mind when you perform kata, but if youre not literally, physically throwing each other and being thrown, then youre not doing judo. it might be that some karate dojo incorporate some judo techniques (i know that some do and i respect that) but if "Troll Allday" (lol) wants to learn how to throw people, s/he is not going to learn to do that effectively by imagining throwing techniques in kata.
yah ignore the other guy, try Judo. even if he was correct in his assertion why would you avoid getting double your training partners and twice as many instructors? if you can afford it try to add Judo in!
@@emperorjimmu9941 Yeah this dude is right. There are documented techniques wrtten by the old masters of Karate which shows some throws (I think there were 7 or 9ish? -> have to look up in givhin funakoshis karate-do shohei) but yeah it's also true that you arenot thrilling them against a REAL resisting oponent but a dummy as trainings partner (nix für ungut) .
is that just a normal gym floor OUCH
It does look like a gym floor, but it's actually a mat.
that drunken superman is begging to be hip thrown
It’s called a knee tap, you see it all the time in wrestling and that never happens. So x to doubt
nope
If you know he's going to do it. Otherwise good luck. Furthermore, he specified that it was for someone starting to pull guard.
I was seeing that, as well as hook tossed.
theres always a counter to everything
No mat
It's a mat. It may not look like it, but it's definitely a mat on a wooden gym floor.
Like these guys and Drunken Superman is a great name but bad technique. Why practice something you know only works on clueless people. There’s no control and I’ve seen this end badly with even (advanced BJJ) white belts
Thanks for your comment. Not everyone is an expert and sometimes even experts get fooled. We've used this with good success and seen others use it as well in various grappling sports and at different levels of competition.
welcomematstevescott I hear you and appreciate where you’re coming from. Most people I train with in BJJ cross train in both judo and wrestling . I think you guys do great videos.
carl Stanford hey sometimes you have to go against a clueless person!
Lmao it's a knee pick. It's used in wrestling. I don't think it's a bad technique just hard to pull off properly.
Even Askrin likes this technique. th-cam.com/video/cG2z6ArQl3c/w-d-xo.html