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Pye i have had my finger on the pulse of TH-cam Photography platforms since 2010 & you have been one of the most consistent/professional. Keep up the hard work it shows!...
Great Video! Are these courses based on USA model only? You mention 6 digits business but in the UK prices are 1/4 of the USA market and would love to learn the UK business model if you have any specific to this local market?
As usual, super important learnings delivered in a super simple manner. Started my own photography business by taking slr lounge courses. Didn't find any one who would simply give out wisdom and knowledge without any fuss. Great work Pye! Huge Fan! Please keep up the great work!
More shiz like this, Pye! Love it! I would LOVE LOVE to have you talking about actual financial numbers with a few established photography brands. No egos allowed, just real talk.
Thank you Pye. In respect to the watermark problem, one of the issues we have is that "New" Wedding Photographers are using our photos on their website and passing them off as their own! It happens to me regularly.
All fantastic points Pye! I think many of these could cross over to other types of photography as well. I can guarantee you, NO ONE is trying to steal my corporate headshots - LOL. Thanks for posting.
Thank you, Pye you just straightened my head out about sponsorship, it is not about money but I did not know they would block you from speaking about other products or companies and not using your camera in the phone you own. I just could not live like that as that is not who I am I have to tell it as it is. It is just like Santa in Miricle On 34th Street (the original) if they didn't have it why not help them find it somewhere else to me that makes you look better than pushing something you can not get behind. Oh by the way all the other points were great as well and great video I just got upset hearing about the contracts from sponsors. Be safe and thanks for the videos your one of the best out there but hey no contract I have to say your one of the best not the best on TH-cam lol.
Appreciate it Matlyn. Yeah, sponsorships is one of the most crappy aspects of our industry in terms of what photographers expect, and what they are in reality.
Good stuff sir. On a side note, I've been referring to you as the "Bob Ross of Photography" when I talk to my wife about your work. Honestly, I think it will land us some training :) I greatly appreciate you putting this content out here man.
I made it to the end. I don’t plan on ever shooting a wedding! But, I’ll gladly refer them out of course. Excellent general photography advice in this video, sir. Thanks.
@@BornUncreative I did. I however had one question on your ETTL video. Exposing to the left. You kinda went through the camera set up a little quick. Well not quick. Lol. Your hands were kinda all over the touch screen. I've set mine up but I want to make sure its right. The presets are awesome. I have modern and crush.
Great info. I do photography as my hobby and to help deal with my sight loss but I have been asked by so many people to shoot their weddings and I have said hell no to all of them as I have so much respect for good wedding togs. I put them in touch with local wedding togs and let them help
watched the whole video and appreciate your information. very helpful and mind opening atleast for people like me newbie. I wanted to know as you said to make good money we need to have certain num of clients or events. but imagine I am in a fully saturated city full of photographers and it's very hard to hit that number. what other type of photography jobs can i do to make more money and stay on similarly same path. (not like doing wedding and racing cars which needs totally diff set of skills and equipments)
Thank you for these advices. I feel it better aligned with small / medium companies, than other web "mentors" speaches, which make me feel we should know how to run with athletes before to know walking. Thanks!
FOMO - A good reminder to keep focused and not get distracted by the multitude of videos pumped out that could easily distract us (photo news, reviews, photographer reacts, etc.)
Thank you ... just brilliant .. can you explain why a flash don’t work and what you think we are doing wrong when we try to set up and fail or .. mistake people make set up flash please
I think the watermark thing is not about someone else stealing the photos but the client taking them and then not paying. Especially if you show all the photos so they can choose which ones they like, before finalising the account In this context i can understand large watermarks.
Okay, regarding myth 3... I've been formally asked by a venue to use my images from a wedding to advertise on their website. I've been told that I will be credited with the images, but no promise of being referred as a preferred vendor or any payment. If they book more weddings from my images but i book no more weddings from them, I've lost out. The couple has already given the okay for their photos to be used with out checking with me first, I feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place here... Want more business, but it seems easy for me to lose out here. Its a well established commercial venue by the way... I doubt they're short on business or cash, even in the current times. Advice appreciated :)
Great question - Having a strong digital footprint is always a good thing when it comes to attracting clients. This is why we still recommend watermarking in the bottom corner as to not take away from the beauty of the image so that there is always a place to source your work. It is tough in your case that the couple, who I assume has unwatermarked photos, gave them the images. It isn't a scenario that we come across as much since we send the vendors watermarked images after the final images are done so they can download them on their own.
For photography, the most annoying thing i see from others, is the obnoxious watermarks. While it will make it harder to steal an image, theft is extremely rare, but one guaranteed outcome is that the image never gets shared (enjoy having no word of mouth advertising). Overall, it only hurts your business. Sure having a non-obnoxious watermark, or better yet, no watermark at all, will mean that the cute picture of an otter that you took will rend up on /aww of reddit, but it will also mean that someone will link back to your portfolio for more images. I have seen many photographers get business that way. Their image gets popular, and people seek out more, and with a link to the source, people see your portfolio, and a handful of those viewers may eventually become customers. To me, a watermark gives the feeling of an upscale shop being tagged by a local gang. It is a distraction that makes the image look worse. it interferes with the subjective aspects of the image, it stops you from getting absorbed into the moment captured. For example, when you see a landscape of a unique and beautiful location, do you automatically think "John Doe photography" or some other generic logo and name that does not add to the image?
For more on the effects of watermarks, consider this truck: i.imgur.com/FY6jMdM.jpg How much did the text and logos added to it improve the value of the truck. Imagine you were in the market for a truck like that and were willing to buy a used one. If there were 2 trucks that were identical in all but 1 aspect. one had perfectly clean paint, and the other had the gang tags on it, which would be worth more money? Would you even consider the tagged one?
I really love your works pleas for a link to your Lightroom and Photoshop skin retouch tutorials. I mean paid links. Lots of admiration for what you do. I'm in Cameroon!
I had a local dress maker repost one of my images via the Bride. I contacted them to ask for credit, and they apologized for not asking. I said no big deal it was just a post and not an ad. The photo got so many likes they licensed the photo for a display, and they give me leads now and lend me dresses for styled shoots in exchange for social giving them images just for passive social media posting.
How much percentage of profit u consider is worth for .lets suppose in a wedding all my expenses for hiring and post processing cover in under 1000$ then how much should i charge which should be feasible........
Thanks Elisha! So the PPA estimates that most photography businesses that are legitimate (insured, studio/meeting space, taxes, etc) take home around 20% on the dollar. From our experience, we've found that a well setup legit photo studio can get to 30-40% if managed well. However, very few of them are. To be safe, I'm going in between at 30%.
I wish you could do my wedding it’s November 8 at the garden room in Garden Grove California I’m sure you charge a lot of money LOL if he even did it anymore cuz I love PIE I mean PYE
$7,500 weddings?! Maybe for extremely well established Wedding Photographers in demanding markets only... but damn, coach me up please! I'm at about $3,500/wedding tops. Take me to the promise land!
@Philip Noah hit or miss. If you think iPhone photos are good enough and 2% is good enough then you aren’t really logical. If the 2% is People standing in front Of iPhone 3-5 feet away then that’s all the Photos You have. What about the Part where the groom kisses the bride. Tell me how Many IPhone Shoots you’ll get
Wedding photographers put watermarks on their wedding photos? Eww No thanks. Wedding photographers dont like when vendors share/use their photos? lol Why?? - Unless its for marketing reasons, makes no sense why
That is wrong man , We put logo “name” on photos becus some people will share our work and not willing to tag, so client can see that name and use it to search and find your page hopefully.
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Pye i have had my finger on the pulse of TH-cam Photography platforms since 2010 & you have been one of the most consistent/professional. Keep up the hard work it shows!...
Great Video! Are these courses based on USA model only? You mention 6 digits business but in the UK prices are 1/4 of the USA market and would love to learn the UK business model if you have any specific to this local market?
I have shot professionally for over 20 years ......and I feel the points Pye makes here are GOLD . Thanks !
As usual, super important learnings delivered in a super simple manner. Started my own photography business by taking slr lounge courses. Didn't find any one who would simply give out wisdom and knowledge without any fuss. Great work Pye! Huge Fan! Please keep up the great work!
Glad you enjoyed Anuj, thanks for the comment! I'll keep doing more of these.
Thank you for your honesty and transparency in this video Pye
Pyle...you remain the Gold standard. Thanks for this kind of video that no one else is doing.
Thanks...you have confirmed everything that I suspected about the photography business. I'll stick to my day job ;-)
More shiz like this, Pye! Love it! I would LOVE LOVE to have you talking about actual financial numbers with a few established photography brands. No egos allowed, just real talk.
Thank you Pye. In respect to the watermark problem, one of the issues we have is that "New" Wedding Photographers are using our photos on their website and passing them off as their own! It happens to me regularly.
That was addressed around the 4-5min mark. I gave some guidance on it.
@@BornUncreative Oh thank you, apologies I must have missed that.
I’m shooting between 30-40 weddings a year, and it took me a lot of trial and error to learn these things. Awesome.
Do you have tips for someone starting out?
Great information. I am looking forward to taking your photography business class next spring. Thanks for the free knowledge in the meantime! 👍🏻
As I'm entering my 3rd year I've found every word you said is 100% true. Thanks for the plain, no BS advice.
This was a great reminder. All points made were on point. Thanks Pye
Solid advice. Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed Andrew!
This is why we fuck with Pye.
40 years a pro' photographer (mostly on newspapers, so very poor..!) and I'm nodding my head through this video. Sound advice.
This is one of ur best video I have seen.
Thank you Pye pure gold as usual
All fantastic points Pye! I think many of these could cross over to other types of photography as well. I can guarantee you, NO ONE is trying to steal my corporate headshots - LOL. Thanks for posting.
Great video, highlights many of the traps I have fallen in to over the years
Thank you, Pye you just straightened my head out about sponsorship, it is not about money but I did not know they would block you from speaking about other products or companies and not using your camera in the phone you own. I just could not live like that as that is not who I am I have to tell it as it is. It is just like Santa in Miricle On 34th Street (the original) if they didn't have it why not help them find it somewhere else to me that makes you look better than pushing something you can not get behind. Oh by the way all the other points were great as well and great video I just got upset hearing about the contracts from sponsors.
Be safe and thanks for the videos your one of the best out there but hey no contract I have to say your one of the best not the best on TH-cam lol.
Appreciate it Matlyn. Yeah, sponsorships is one of the most crappy aspects of our industry in terms of what photographers expect, and what they are in reality.
Made it to the end. Good stuff. I do mostly video work, but very applicable.
Very good points 👌
I'm not ready to shoot weddings yet...but this was good info for sure! Thank you Pye!
Glad you enjoyed Jason!
Fabulous video, with great insight.
Love your video!!!!!
Another awesome Video.
Solid Gold. Thanks Pi
Gold standard advice. Always amazing listening to Pye
Thanks Harsh!
I loved every word. I enjoy photography and i Love people, thats why I'm into the craft. Not trying to get rich, here.
Made it! And thanks for sharing 🤗
I'm considering being a divorce photographer.
Thank your for giving us some free guide
Great advice. 🙏🏻. Great video.
Thank you always for sharing Sir
Good stuff as usual
I'm glad to see that I realized most of those points by myself so I think I'm finally an adult in photography 😅
Great tips! Thanks for sharing.
I made it to the Gold portion of the clip 🤣🙌🏾. Thanks for these
Great bubble-busting advice!
Good stuff sir. On a side note, I've been referring to you as the "Bob Ross of Photography" when I talk to my wife about your work. Honestly, I think it will land us some training :) I greatly appreciate you putting this content out here man.
Haha, I'm honored to be given that title. Bob Ross was amazing.
I made it to the end. I don’t plan on ever shooting a wedding! But, I’ll gladly refer them out of course. Excellent general photography advice in this video, sir. Thanks.
Appreciate it Mark!
love the video pye, do more of these please!
Copy, will do!
This is why I listen and follow you.
Appreciate it, glad you enjoyed!
@@BornUncreative I did. I however had one question on your ETTL video. Exposing to the left. You kinda went through the camera set up a little quick. Well not quick. Lol. Your hands were kinda all over the touch screen. I've set mine up but I want to make sure its right. The presets are awesome. I have modern and crush.
I really love this guys...speak straight to the point. Thanks Pye
Made it to the end. Best video in a long time. Thank you Pye!
Great info. I do photography as my hobby and to help deal with my sight loss but I have been asked by so many people to shoot their weddings and I have said hell no to all of them as I have so much respect for good wedding togs. I put them in touch with local wedding togs and let them help
This was great! Thanks! 🙏🏽
Glad you enjoyed!
Super helpful. Definitely going to use these 7 tips.
Any chance we can get a podcast going with similar topics :-)
The most grounded advice I’ve heard in a long time. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed, thanks for commenting!
Thank you 😇
Great thanks
Welcome!
Thank you for your honesty. Love your work love learning from you.
watched the whole video and appreciate your information. very helpful and mind opening atleast for people like me newbie. I wanted to know as you said to make good money we need to have certain num of clients or events. but imagine I am in a fully saturated city full of photographers and it's very hard to hit that number. what other type of photography jobs can i do to make more money and stay on similarly same path. (not like doing wedding and racing cars which needs totally diff set of skills and equipments)
i lolled so hard when he said he talked about influencers
Amen
Love this video, gold stuff going on here 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼. I'll buy the training in the future, right now still can't afford them. Thanks for sharing! Cheers!
Thank you for these advices. I feel it better aligned with small / medium companies, than other web "mentors" speaches, which make me feel we should know how to run with athletes before to know walking. Thanks!
Sure thing Dat, here to tell it like it is!
Such a good video.
FOMO - A good reminder to keep focused and not get distracted by the multitude of videos pumped out that could easily distract us (photo news, reviews, photographer reacts, etc.)
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you ... just brilliant .. can you explain why a flash don’t work and what you think we are doing wrong when we try to set up and fail or .. mistake people make set up flash please
Huh?
I think the watermark thing is not about someone else stealing the photos but the client taking them and then not paying. Especially if you show all the photos so they can choose which ones they like, before finalising the account In this context i can understand large watermarks.
Okay, regarding myth 3... I've been formally asked by a venue to use my images from a wedding to advertise on their website. I've been told that I will be credited with the images, but no promise of being referred as a preferred vendor or any payment. If they book more weddings from my images but i book no more weddings from them, I've lost out. The couple has already given the okay for their photos to be used with out checking with me first, I feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place here... Want more business, but it seems easy for me to lose out here. Its a well established commercial venue by the way... I doubt they're short on business or cash, even in the current times. Advice appreciated :)
Great question - Having a strong digital footprint is always a good thing when it comes to attracting clients. This is why we still recommend watermarking in the bottom corner as to not take away from the beauty of the image so that there is always a place to source your work. It is tough in your case that the couple, who I assume has unwatermarked photos, gave them the images. It isn't a scenario that we come across as much since we send the vendors watermarked images after the final images are done so they can download them on their own.
@@slrlounge okay, I’ll see if I can make it work. Thanks for taking the time to make such a helpful video and reply to my question. You rock! ❤️💥
Thank you, i needed to hear this
Appreciate the comment!
Wow... Much love.. from Nigeria 🇳🇬
Thanks Simon!
@@BornUncreative please I would love to be your friend 🙏🇳🇬
I love hit minimalist background. Some of these TH-camrs try way too hard
Thanks man!
For photography, the most annoying thing i see from others, is the obnoxious watermarks. While it will make it harder to steal an image, theft is extremely rare, but one guaranteed outcome is that the image never gets shared (enjoy having no word of mouth advertising). Overall, it only hurts your business. Sure having a non-obnoxious watermark, or better yet, no watermark at all, will mean that the cute picture of an otter that you took will rend up on /aww of reddit, but it will also mean that someone will link back to your portfolio for more images. I have seen many photographers get business that way. Their image gets popular, and people seek out more, and with a link to the source, people see your portfolio, and a handful of those viewers may eventually become customers.
To me, a watermark gives the feeling of an upscale shop being tagged by a local gang. It is a distraction that makes the image look worse. it interferes with the subjective aspects of the image, it stops you from getting absorbed into the moment captured. For example, when you see a landscape of a unique and beautiful location, do you automatically think "John Doe photography" or some other generic logo and name that does not add to the image?
For more on the effects of watermarks, consider this truck: i.imgur.com/FY6jMdM.jpg
How much did the text and logos added to it improve the value of the truck.
Imagine you were in the market for a truck like that and were willing to buy a used one. If there were 2 trucks that were identical in all but 1 aspect. one had perfectly clean paint, and the other had the gang tags on it, which would be worth more money? Would you even consider the tagged one?
I really love your works pleas for a link to your Lightroom and Photoshop skin retouch tutorials. I mean paid links. Lots of admiration for what you do. I'm in Cameroon!
you spit gold on me :D and I hate shooting weddings hahaha
Haha, no shame in that! Glad you enjoyed tho
Great advice Pye
Thanks
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Thank you for the support Louis!
@@BornUncreative Thank YOU for the education. It really is great.
Wow speechless
I had a local dress maker repost one of my images via the Bride. I contacted them to ask for credit, and they apologized for not asking. I said no big deal it was just a post and not an ad. The photo got so many likes they licensed the photo for a display, and they give me leads now and lend me dresses for styled shoots in exchange for social giving them images just for passive social media posting.
Yes! Good job, good approach!
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Spit that gold brotha! Looking to invest in The Premium membership!
You won't regret it. Thanks for the comment!
Just truth and nothing else
Are you trying to tell me Canon didn’t pay you to hate the EF 24-70?
Do all Lin & Jirsa associates use Canon?
Nope, we have Nikon and Sony shooters too :)
Hahaha, I think my crew missed the joke ;) Our shooters use whatever they prefer, most are on Canon, a few Nikon, quite a few Sony.
I got to “that part” of the video 😎
How much percentage of profit u consider is worth for .lets suppose in a wedding all my expenses for hiring and post processing cover in under 1000$ then how much should i charge which should be feasible........
I made it to “this part of the video”!
Hey Amazing video super informative! Just 1 question how did u arrive at the 30 cent on the dollar profit?
Thanks Elisha! So the PPA estimates that most photography businesses that are legitimate (insured, studio/meeting space, taxes, etc) take home around 20% on the dollar. From our experience, we've found that a well setup legit photo studio can get to 30-40% if managed well. However, very few of them are. To be safe, I'm going in between at 30%.
@@BornUncreative ah I understand well thank you! Your awesome
I like someone said loud: Being sponsored mostly mean presenter is inauthentic. I remember a SONY guy few years ago he was very pushy.
The guy with the hat?
@@Chris-ey7zy That guy - with the hat :)
@@cdmikelis and Never looks at viewfinder
I wish you could do my wedding it’s November 8 at the garden room in Garden Grove California I’m sure you charge a lot of money LOL if he even did it anymore cuz I love PIE I mean PYE
I’ll do it
Haha, I still shoot, and so does our team. Love for you to reach out contact@linandjirsa.com
Número Sixta! 🤣🤣
$7,500 weddings?! Maybe for extremely well established Wedding Photographers in demanding markets only... but damn, coach me up please! I'm at about $3,500/wedding tops. Take me to the promise land!
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@Philip Noah Give it a try, lol
@Philip Noah hit or miss. If you think iPhone photos are good enough and 2% is good enough then you aren’t really logical. If the 2% is People standing in front Of iPhone 3-5 feet away then that’s all the Photos You have. What about the Part where the groom kisses the bride. Tell me how Many IPhone Shoots you’ll get
Wedding photographers put watermarks on their wedding photos? Eww No thanks.
Wedding photographers dont like when vendors share/use their photos? lol Why?? - Unless its for marketing reasons, makes no sense why
"Profoto appropriately priced." 😂🤣
You priceless !
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30 cents on the dollar 🤣🤣🤣 this is clearly for the B&Gs watching the vid 😉😛🤣🤣🤣
I do have a question about exposing to the left. Is there an avenue that I can ask this in length on your website?
That is wrong man , We put logo “name” on photos becus some people will share our work and not willing to tag, so client can see that name and use it to search and find your page hopefully.
I think he meant that you can put the watermark on the photo, but you should not put it all over the photo, and just make it small
@@hollykbae5231 he clearly sayin you dont have to put ur logo its not likely that your photos are a big deal to other photographers -_-
Yo
$7,500 a wedding boy i never heard of that
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