I shoot for the seven about half the time. Lay the 10 for $500 and play $100 on the inside. Then I shoot for the 7. I’m making $35 every time I miss the 7 and hit an inside number. And make $150 when I hit the 7. I have a couple sets that I can usually hit a 7 within 3 or 4 rolls.
They don't shoot for the 7 because they can't shoot more sevens! PERIOD! If they could they could make a bundle if they knew how to bet the darkside!😉 They also can't stop the sevens when they gonna come either! seen it so many times it's not even funny!🤣😂
To answer....They can't. No one can set anything to give them a specific number. If they could, they would break the casino. I'm not trying to be Johnny Rain cloud but rather just answering the question. You already know this, that's why you asked it. Someone must have pissed you off. LOL..Nice little strat.
Friday night, I played on a $10 table. Was alone on yhe table. I had 3 4 3 on the ATS on all rolls. Started with a minimum bet across on each session. First session I threw about 25 tosses and hit the all. Next couple sessions/hands didn't do much. 4th session I tossed the dice about 30 times and I hit the tall. Colored up and after tipping the dealers left up $1100.00. This is why we avoid the 7. Not sure dark side player would make that kind of money starting at table minimum in 4 sessions/hands.
There are a few schools of thought behind dice control. 1. Avoid the 7 (Probably the hardest to do given the probability of it rolling/dice construction). 2. Avoid a certain number. This could be used as a hybrid style getting a dont bet set and avoiding that number while hitting the others. (Much easier to avoid a ten for example, as there are half the ways to roll). 3. Hit as many box numbers and regress. (Pretty smart if you know you have above avg rolls of 7-8, you could bet larger and regress to play with casino money). 4. Go for the 7? This would be a hard strategy to employ. What would your betting system be for this Waylon? Maybe hop the 7’s on come outs, and lay the point, and continue to hop the 7’s progressing the hop every 3 rolls? I think you said random roll then lay the point. That would be less risky then the above.
Hell lay the back wall on the comeout and try to throw 7s ! Then lay the 4 or 10 after you catch a point and try to roll a 7! If you can shoot like some say that shouldn't be a problem lol
Hey Waylon,,,,, great question on the 7,,,,,,,, I would like to find what set it takes on your roll tide stack-set to roll 7s... then I would practice it.....If you find it before I do,,,, let me know please....thanks for all you do.... Blessings.
The answer to your question is that you cap your upside, it’s 1 and done. Then you gotta wait for the dice to go all the way around. The point of DI is to throw greater than the average so you can press and have higher wins.
The thinking is if you can regularly roll 20+ rolls, play inside and hit half of them, you will do much better than one seven out. But, I guess if you are really good at hitting the seven, you could lay the whole back wall with hundreds of dollars to make that one seven out pay off big time.
Waylon my name is Jamey I have combined two of your strategies the past few times I’ve been in the casino and I’ve not lost on it yet. I’m giving you all the credit. I’ve not seen you play it like this, but they are your strategies you’re laid the point strategy and the 410 ladder on your layer point I don’t come down until I’m satisfied with a win goal and I just play the 4/10 ladder normal give it a try
Hi Waylon, Sharing a story. I once watched a Don't Pass gang of three show up at a table. They played the DP and one or two DCs and aggressively slammed the dice against the wall rooting for the seven. No dice setting, no DI, just Random Randys on steroids. I watched a right side better, who was down to his last $75 cash in on these three successive darkside shooting players. He started with an $18 six and eight, hit and eventually covered all the box numbers, pressed moderately, (ie., for the 6&8: $18, 30, 60, 90, 120, 180, 240, 300 etc., similarly for the 5 and 9 while flipping the 4 and 10 ie; 25, 50, 100, 200, 400) and cash out in excess of 5 grand. Ironically the Don't guys we're shooting a rightsiders dream, hitting sevens on the comeout rolls. The Do-sider didn't care in the least that these three Don't guys were slamming the dice. What a show! I'm sure you've witnessed similar events in your travels. The right side play is the most popular type of play. Players want to invest less to win more. Most gamblers want something for (almost) nothing. You advocate gambling something for something, taking into account, sufficient bankroll and rational laddering methods based on the pyramid of odds and probabilities. A lot of your stratagems take into account the "pyramid fact" so ladder betting is the plan of choice. Big Ben ( a wiley fish) only comes around so often, so you need to cast out a net two or three times to catch him. Each net costing a bit more for a smaller mesh. Eventually you catch him and recoup your investment (with a profit) and your back in business. For the seven shooting DI what betting strategy would you advise? The enticing aspect of playing for the sevens is you only need one hit to pay numerous bets. Laying the back line is a hopping bet. Lay bets bet more to win less. The DP and DC run the comeout gauntlet. Wouldn't there be more pressure for the seven shooter to roll the seven than for a right side shooter to roll his box number? Thank you for letting me ramble on your thought provoking question. I'm more questions than answers. Thank you very much for sharing your passion, hard work, and smart strategies on how to play craps in your shows.
.Hey Steve good afternoon, I've got a best friend here in Naples " Steve Fisher" ...Thats exactly what random rolling is all about, ( hit & miss) it's Best to prepare for that dreaded random 7 practicing the math strategies of Brother Waylon, Hés the Best of the Best hands down, wins over loses at the end of the day...I had to learn the old way, but Waylon teaches & shares the only way...( success is all in the math) Have a good weekend brother...Old Naples Florida🌴🎨
If DI is possible, the no 4 and no 10 offer the most value. Reasoning being they only have 3 ways to be rolled. Thus, if a shooter can reduce one of those combinations from comming up as much... it impacts the accurance of those 2 numbers much more than the same level of influence on other numbers.
Nice strategy. Question why not go through the DC and then place all other numbers for 1 or 2 hits. Then remove place bets and then see what the DC does. Just looking at getting paid even money on the 7 out.
However this strategy is a excellent system as all your others are. I see the money coming in because even if you point 7 out your not losing money. Great strategy as always. Until next God bless and Roll Tide brother
I’m no expert DI but you asked so I’ll offer my opinion. I don’t know of anyone that can snipe a particular number on a regular basis. We call it dice influence instead of dice control for a reason. So, yes, the 7 has 6 ways out of 36 combinations to show up. But that means there are 30 other combinations that can appear. If I can find a dice set through practice that tends to avoid the 7 rather than land on a 12, for example, I’ve got a higher expected value per roll doing that even though the 12 might pay 3:1 in the field. Plus, and this is the main thing for me, if I make a point and then hit the 7 I have to wait for the dice to get back around to me again and that could take a while. I’d rather bet on myself than anyone else at the table.
I agree with you 100%! The 7 is coming for you eventually! In the long run it’ll randomly come every 6 rolls. Now imagine if you could have just enough influence with your set and toss to have the 7 only show up every 8 or 9 rolls. Couple that with an appropriate betting philosophy and you can make money pretty consistently at the tables.
lol, when I'm looking to throw a seven, I go to the hardway set. It's so easy to double pitch one dice when your trying not to! I've practiced all kinds of different sets and logged them in bone tracker and by far my worst SOR is with the hardway set!
I made a comment in one of your videos about when I was using the 5/2 5/2 dice set with 23 come out 7s in a row. After the 3rd I start hopping the 7s 25,50,75 and 100. So depending on my dice set I am using I did that time bet on the 7. Next 3 rolls was a 2 snake eyes and a 8 then a seven. That was plenty of profit in just my rolls so I went to the house.
Waylon, I appreciate your approach to thinking outside of the box. My thoughts on this DI thing is, if you could accurately throw a 7, practicing to do so isn’t as beneficial. You can’t have a long roll only rolling 7s it shortens the time with dice in your hands. Hitting and quitting is great yeah. But you got Randy for that
If you could consistently throw several 7’s in a row on come outs, then you would be golden. Do some sort of pass line parlay. It is a bit unrealistic but the movie Big town. This is the main strategy of the main character.
Im new to craps, and hooked!! Waylon, i love your videoes. Ive watched a bunch of them. They are fun to watch and very easy to understand and follow with you. My question is does Biloxi allow a lay bet with a place bet? Ie can you lay the 5 for $100 and place the 5 for $100. Instead of the duey dont.
I play this way alot at the casino. Its probably one of my best results regarding profits. Its very easy to hit n run for $120 to $260. The only difference i do is use the dont pass vs a manual lay. I always slap a small yo bet on the dont hedge comeout. I prefer the dont play vs the manual just because of the 1 to 1 vs the 49.85% (4) plus if it gets picked off i leave my box #s there and double them and just add odds to my dont. Either way you play this its a solid strategy
I shot for the 7 all the time and set the dice to hit it. It typically takes me 4 to 5 rolls to hit it because you're throw has to be perfectly on axis which is difficult. I play vary simular to you were I'm always playing either a lay or don't or DC somewhere. However my intention is to focus on the box number hits. Being that it's impossible to throw a 7 on 1 single roll every time. The hard way set for me personally is the best possible set as a 54/54 6 left 1 right. It hits 6,8 like crazy However is easy to hit a 7 with a back spin hand twist release. So it works for me as I throw 1k practice rolls every day. I don't use a back spin when attempting to hit the 6,8 instead it's NO back spin it's a straight forward push with the dice tilted to land front do ward . Anyways as always your the best my friend and to me the LEGEND OF YT strategies
PART 1- DI can’t produce specific numbers at random, it’s not like I’m going to roll a six now, it’s more about avoiding the 7 for longer rolls. DI want the dice in their hands, they don’t want the 7 to appear because they would not get the dice back.
Waylon I’ve asked myself that question ever since I started learning this game. We know every hand ends on a seven. If I see the 4 and 10 are a head of the 7, I start hoping the 7’s. I made a little chart so I can remember the betting sequence to be in profit when the 7 does come. Playing the 4/10 ladder, and playing for the 7 is hard to beat. It takes some cash but so does Bass Fishing lol I’m not hoping the 7 as a hedge. It’s two strategy’s at the same time
You have a good point with your question. The beauty of craps is that the payouts on most numbers are better than 1:1. If we could place the 7, we probably would. But 2 of the options for betting the 7, pay even money or worse. Sure, there are the hop bets or any 7. I just can't bring myself to do. To each their own.
Why are you "not" doing a lay bet when setting the first point? Since you are lay betting on successive come out roll(s)? With the odds of rolling 7 when setting a point are the same on each come out are the same.
IF I was a DI I would play crapless and toss horns. or... I would try to toss 7's. IF 7's are coming , lay the back wall is a low risk high reward bet. IMO
Waylon you and I are old guys. I remember craps tables with little or no bounce and "ripple walls" instead of the diamond shape back walls. DI is so iffy today because no one is able to truly practice with the table set up they will face in a casino. I am leaning more and more to you DC and come bet strategies. thanks Brother!
Yeah man tables these days throw any kind of di out the window! Slow motion of the dice on a bouncy table will blow your mind ! They turn and twist a thousand different ways
Hey brother this strategy literally makes the most sense to me. From all my years playing this game I see truck loads of 7's. Lol The funny thing is I've been playing your unbeatable lay ladder with the 1 or 2 hits on the place bets. The only difference I do is if a place bet is hit I pull that number down just like in your unbeatable 160. Didn't even think about leaving that lay bet up on the come out. Love it!!
I personally would make this more complicated, by doing a $10 dont come bet and do odds (on a 3-4-5x table this would always be 6x flat and pays either 3-4-5x flat). While covering each number with $10. When the 7 comes you can just hand the odds stack and ask to lay the last point coving your next dont come. Nice system Waylon! As long as they don’t repeat numbers when you are coming out, or hit a bunch of points, you are golden!
@@waylonswaycraps I rolled it out a little on my app, but went for three hits then started to hit and pull. This is a more risky way to play but a little more fun on the eventual long roll. Love the idea’s, they get the brain working for new ways to attack the game.
Hey Gentlemen I have been involved with the Di groups for many years You don't need to toss forever and a day there is a dice set if tossed correctly will give you no 5 or 9 has 4 sevens on faces I make bank with this 99 percent of the time I play short sessions and get out Dodge good luck everyone
@@waylonswaycraps That would be the 5/2 on two faces with the 6/1 on the other two faces provided you stay on axis. If you single, double or triple pitch any one of the dice on axis (or any combination of pitching of the two dice), no 5 or 9. But with the alligators that's gonna be a hard feat to keep both dice always on axis, just saying.
PART 2- As far as betting is concerned, let’s say you lay the back wall for $560 you win $340 on a 7 (minus vig) of course. Let’s say instead you place $640 across you win $140 on the 5 through 9 and $200 on the 4 & 10. Any good DI can roll at least in the teens. So you make more money on the place bets than you would with a 7 out.
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I shoot for the seven about half the time. Lay the 10 for $500 and play $100 on the inside. Then I shoot for the 7. I’m making $35 every time I miss the 7 and hit an inside number. And make $150 when I hit the 7. I have a couple sets that I can usually hit a 7 within 3 or 4 rolls.
This is exactly what I'm talking about brother! Make money a few rolls then make even more on the 7! Idk why good shooters don't play more this way
They don't shoot for the 7 because they can't shoot more sevens! PERIOD! If they could they could make a bundle if they knew how to bet the darkside!😉
They also can't stop the sevens when they gonna come either! seen it so many times it's not even funny!🤣😂
Facts
Hey Waylon! Why didn't you place the 6/8 for $12 each?
I hate capping the 6&8 ! At the end of the day you never get that money back! Rip off
To answer....They can't. No one can set anything to give them a specific number. If they could, they would break the casino.
I'm not trying to be Johnny Rain cloud but rather just answering the question.
You already know this, that's why you asked it. Someone must have pissed you off. LOL..Nice little strat.
Lol you know me brother! Thanks my friend
Amen! Let the 7 work for you!! That’s why I like the Arnold from the DP.
Yep it's a goodun
If your allowed the doey don’t, do you still take down after two hits and place everything but the point?
@@Chilllstorm I don't play the doey don't unless it's partner play! Waste of time and money otherwise
I like your thinking/strategy’s. I feel , I have the advantage over the casino. Tks! Waylon!! Also keeping me thinking!!!!
Thanks brother!
Friday night, I played on a $10 table. Was alone on yhe table. I had 3 4 3 on the ATS on all rolls. Started with a minimum bet across on each session. First session I threw about 25 tosses and hit the all. Next couple sessions/hands didn't do much. 4th session I tossed the dice about 30 times and I hit the tall. Colored up and after tipping the dealers left up $1100.00. This is why we avoid the 7. Not sure dark side player would make that kind of money starting at table minimum in 4 sessions/hands.
The problem or interesting thing about the game of craps is the fact that even a blind hog gets an ear of corn sometimes.
DI shooters try to avoid 6 combinations out of 36. Not try for 6 out of 36.
Not all ! I know a few that shoot for the 7 with great results! I guess they are better than most
Excellent question!
There are a few schools of thought behind dice control.
1. Avoid the 7 (Probably the hardest to do given the probability of it rolling/dice construction).
2. Avoid a certain number. This could be used as a hybrid style getting a dont bet set and avoiding that number while hitting the others. (Much easier to avoid a ten for example, as there are half the ways to roll).
3. Hit as many box numbers and regress. (Pretty smart if you know you have above avg rolls of 7-8, you could bet larger and regress to play with casino money).
4. Go for the 7? This would be a hard strategy to employ. What would your betting system be for this Waylon?
Maybe hop the 7’s on come outs, and lay the point, and continue to hop the 7’s progressing the hop every 3 rolls?
I think you said random roll then lay the point. That would be less risky then the above.
Hell lay the back wall on the comeout and try to throw 7s ! Then lay the 4 or 10 after you catch a point and try to roll a 7! If you can shoot like some say that shouldn't be a problem lol
I love your bankroll builders
Thanks brother
Hey Waylon,,,,, great question on the 7,,,,,,,, I would like to find what set it takes on your roll tide stack-set to roll 7s... then I would practice it.....If you find it before I do,,,, let me know please....thanks for all you do.... Blessings.
Will do brother!
The answer to your question is that you cap your upside, it’s 1 and done. Then you gotta wait for the dice to go all the way around. The point of DI is to throw greater than the average so you can press and have higher wins.
If I could be one and done that's what I'd be ! Don't get no easier than that
The thinking is if you can regularly roll 20+ rolls, play inside and hit half of them, you will do much better than one seven out. But, I guess if you are really good at hitting the seven, you could lay the whole back wall with hundreds of dollars to make that one seven out pay off big time.
I'm a fan. Skeptical at first when a few numbers rolled back to back, but then 7 next roll validated this strat. Well done.
Ahh the inevitable 7 lol ! Thanks brother
Bet the way you know how to control. Don't just control the 7! Ppl lose with that.
You can't control the 7 ! If you could you'd be a millionaire
Waylon my name is Jamey I have combined two of your strategies the past few times I’ve been in the casino and I’ve not lost on it yet. I’m giving you all the credit. I’ve not seen you play it like this, but they are your strategies you’re laid the point strategy and the 410 ladder on your layer point I don’t come down until I’m satisfied with a win goal and I just play the 4/10 ladder normal give it a try
Hi Jamey ! Yeah lay the point with the 4&10 ladder is a good one! Played it a thousand times any which way you want to play it
One more gem Waylon!
Pray each day you are healthy and finding joy in life.
Ty brother! Godbless
There is a movie from 1987 called “The Big Town” This main character knows how to shoot for the 7. Just think what if he was able to hop the 7’s!!!
He'd be dangerous
Points even throw 10 to 25 on the hard way. Comeout on even lay hop the hard way for 3 to 10. 🤑🤑🤑 simple. Define bubble craps of roll to win strategy!
Wow, what a great question ❓. I would love to see someone systematically figure out how to increase the odds of rolling the 7.
It's rolled enough already lol
Hi Waylon, Sharing a story.
I once watched a Don't Pass gang of three show up at a table. They played the DP and one or two DCs and aggressively slammed the dice against the wall rooting for the seven. No dice setting, no DI, just Random Randys on steroids. I watched a right side better, who was down to his last $75 cash in on these three successive darkside shooting players. He started with an $18 six and eight, hit and eventually covered all the box numbers, pressed moderately, (ie., for the 6&8: $18, 30, 60, 90, 120, 180, 240, 300 etc., similarly for the 5 and 9 while flipping the 4 and 10 ie; 25, 50, 100, 200, 400) and cash out in excess of 5 grand. Ironically the Don't guys we're shooting a rightsiders dream, hitting sevens on the comeout rolls. The Do-sider didn't care in the least that these three Don't guys were slamming the dice. What a show! I'm sure you've witnessed similar events in your travels.
The right side play is the most popular type of play. Players want to invest less to win more. Most gamblers want something for (almost) nothing. You advocate gambling something for something, taking into account, sufficient bankroll and rational laddering methods based on the pyramid of odds and probabilities. A lot of your stratagems take into account the "pyramid fact" so ladder betting is the plan of choice. Big Ben ( a wiley fish) only comes around so often, so you need to cast out a net two or three times to catch him. Each net costing a bit more for a smaller mesh. Eventually you catch him and recoup your investment (with a profit) and your back in business.
For the seven shooting DI what betting strategy would you advise? The enticing aspect
of playing for the sevens is you only need one hit to pay numerous bets. Laying the back line is a hopping bet. Lay bets bet more to win less. The DP and DC run the comeout gauntlet. Wouldn't there be more pressure for the seven shooter to roll the seven than for a right side shooter to roll his box number?
Thank you for letting me ramble on your thought provoking question. I'm more questions than answers.
Thank you very much for sharing your passion, hard work, and smart strategies on how to play craps in your shows.
Yw brother! Thanks for sharing your story and opinions about this great game
lol…every time I want and try to hit a 7 I hit every number except a 7
.Hey Steve good afternoon, I've got a best friend here in Naples " Steve Fisher" ...Thats exactly what random rolling is all about, ( hit & miss) it's Best to prepare for that dreaded random 7 practicing the math strategies of Brother Waylon, Hés the Best of the Best hands down, wins over loses at the end of the day...I had to learn the old way, but Waylon teaches & shares the only way...( success is all in the math) Have a good weekend brother...Old Naples Florida🌴🎨
I'd never bet on one then if I was that good lol
@@waylonswaycraps I hear that…trust me…I’m not that good, just not always lucky when I need to be. Thanks for all your knowledge and all you do!!
@@HenrySousa-n2c oh yeah, I’ve learned a lot because of Waylon
@@stevefisher6531 yw and yeah I know brother! Sometimes the bug sometimes the windshield lol
If DI is possible, the no 4 and no 10 offer the most value. Reasoning being they only have 3 ways to be rolled. Thus, if a shooter can reduce one of those combinations from comming up as much... it impacts the accurance of those 2 numbers much more than the same level of influence on other numbers.
Agreed
Nice strategy. Question why not go through the DC and then place all other numbers for 1 or 2 hits. Then remove place bets and then see what the DC does. Just looking at getting paid even money on the 7 out.
I have that strategy! It works great also
Wonderful. Can’t wait to see it. Thanks for letting us in to the mind of Waylon
I like this one better.. 7 will never beat you.. DC is vulnerable to the 7 for that one roll.
However this strategy is a excellent system as all your others are. I see the money coming in because even if you point 7 out your not losing money. Great strategy as always. Until next God bless and Roll Tide brother
Ty brother Godbless
I’m no expert DI but you asked so I’ll offer my opinion. I don’t know of anyone that can snipe a particular number on a regular basis. We call it dice influence instead of dice control for a reason. So, yes, the 7 has 6 ways out of 36 combinations to show up. But that means there are 30 other combinations that can appear. If I can find a dice set through practice that tends to avoid the 7 rather than land on a 12, for example, I’ve got a higher expected value per roll doing that even though the 12 might pay 3:1 in the field.
Plus, and this is the main thing for me, if I make a point and then hit the 7 I have to wait for the dice to get back around to me again and that could take a while. I’d rather bet on myself than anyone else at the table.
You can't avoid the 7! If you could you'd be a millionaire! And so would I ! I love an empty table myself
I agree with you 100%! The 7 is coming for you eventually! In the long run it’ll randomly come every 6 rolls. Now imagine if you could have just enough influence with your set and toss to have the 7 only show up every 8 or 9 rolls. Couple that with an appropriate betting philosophy and you can make money pretty consistently at the tables.
@@traumamike yeah I'd be rich if I knew I could get 3 rolls in before a 7 much less 8 r 9
lol, when I'm looking to throw a seven, I go to the hardway set. It's so easy to double pitch one dice when your trying not to! I've practiced all kinds of different sets and logged them in bone tracker and by far my worst SOR is with the hardway set!
I made a comment in one of your videos about when I was using the 5/2 5/2 dice set with 23 come out 7s in a row. After the 3rd I start hopping the 7s 25,50,75 and 100. So depending on my dice set I am using I did that time bet on the 7. Next 3 rolls was a 2 snake eyes and a 8 then a seven. That was plenty of profit in just my rolls so I went to the house.
Nice
N u could split the lay into 2bets 2placed 2 laid... saves getting totally whacked ?
I agree with intro..or maybe when it feels like its due too?🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉#BIGRED
Waylon, I appreciate your approach to thinking outside of the box.
My thoughts on this DI thing is, if you could accurately throw a 7, practicing to do so isn’t as beneficial. You can’t have a long roll only rolling 7s it shortens the time with dice in your hands. Hitting and quitting is great yeah. But you got Randy for that
Yeah I'd be rich if I could throw tons of 7s
If you could consistently throw several 7’s in a row on come outs, then you would be golden. Do some sort of pass line parlay. It is a bit unrealistic but the movie Big town. This is the main strategy of the main character.
Im new to craps, and hooked!! Waylon, i love your videoes. Ive watched a bunch of them. They are fun to watch and very easy to understand and follow with you. My question is does Biloxi allow a lay bet with a place bet? Ie can you lay the 5 for $100 and place the 5 for $100. Instead of the duey dont.
Don't do that because a 100$ lay 5 pays 63$ and a place 100$ 5 pays 140$
I play this way alot at the casino. Its probably one of my best results regarding profits. Its very easy to hit n run for $120 to $260. The only difference i do is use the dont pass vs a manual lay. I always slap a small yo bet on the dont hedge comeout. I prefer the dont play vs the manual just because of the 1 to 1 vs the 49.85% (4) plus if it gets picked off i leave my box #s there and double them and just add odds to my dont. Either way you play this its a solid strategy
Don't pass is great after the comeout
I shot for the 7 all the time and set the dice to hit it. It typically takes me 4 to 5 rolls to hit it because you're throw has to be perfectly on axis which is difficult. I play vary simular to you were I'm always playing either a lay or don't or DC somewhere. However my intention is to focus on the box number hits. Being that it's impossible to throw a 7 on 1 single roll every time. The hard way set for me personally is the best possible set as a 54/54 6 left 1 right. It hits 6,8 like crazy However is easy to hit a 7 with a back spin hand twist release. So it works for me as I throw 1k practice rolls every day. I don't use a back spin when attempting to hit the 6,8 instead it's NO back spin it's a straight forward push with the dice tilted to land front do ward . Anyways as always your the best my friend and to me the LEGEND OF YT strategies
Ty brother and I agree on the Hardway set !
When I play this I think I'm gonna call it Puck No! 😋
PART 1- DI can’t produce specific numbers at random, it’s not like I’m going to roll a six now, it’s more about avoiding the 7 for longer rolls.
DI want the dice in their hands, they don’t want the 7 to appear because they would not get the dice back.
Pick an empty table then! Avoid the 7 lol ! You can't avoid the 7 ,it comes more than any other number so you best no how to bet to win at this game
Waylon I’ve asked myself that question ever since I started learning this game.
We know every hand ends on a seven.
If I see the 4 and 10 are a head of the 7, I start hoping the 7’s.
I made a little chart so I can remember the betting sequence to be in profit when the 7 does come.
Playing the 4/10 ladder, and playing for the 7 is hard to beat.
It takes some cash but so does Bass Fishing lol
I’m not hoping the 7 as a hedge.
It’s two strategy’s at the same time
You got it brother
You have a good point with your question. The beauty of craps is that the payouts on most numbers are better than 1:1.
If we could place the 7, we probably would. But 2 of the options for betting the 7, pay even money or worse. Sure, there are the hop bets or any 7. I just can't bring myself to do.
To each their own.
I wish we could place the 7 lol we'd all be rich
Nice Strat Waylon, the way you were rolling, if you'd have played it 3-4 Punch, up $1000?
No doubt! You can play it all the way out and never turn off bets and it does great brother
Why are you "not" doing a lay bet when setting the first point? Since you are lay betting on successive come out roll(s)? With the odds of rolling 7 when setting a point are the same on each come out are the same.
Just not the way I start with this particular strategy but I have no problem with it! Pick one and go for it
IF I was a DI I would play crapless and toss horns. or... I would try to toss 7's. IF 7's are coming , lay the back wall is a low risk high reward bet. IMO
Yes sir ! Money is in crapless tables
Waylon you and I are old guys. I remember craps tables with little or no bounce and "ripple walls" instead of the diamond shape back walls. DI is so iffy today because no one is able to truly practice with the table set up they will face in a casino. I am leaning more and more to you DC and come bet strategies. thanks Brother!
Yeah man tables these days throw any kind of di out the window! Slow motion of the dice on a bouncy table will blow your mind ! They turn and twist a thousand different ways
Hey brother this strategy literally makes the most sense to me. From all my years playing this game I see truck loads of 7's. Lol The funny thing is I've been playing your unbeatable lay ladder with the 1 or 2 hits on the place bets. The only difference I do is if a place bet is hit I pull that number down just like in your unbeatable 160. Didn't even think about leaving that lay bet up on the come out. Love it!!
Nice brother! The 7 is always one roll away
@@waylonswaycraps Yes sirrr!
I'm gonna nickname this'un the Rollin' Lay. I can tell that I'm gonna be studying this one for sure!! Thanks Waylon!
Yw brother
thats a good point waylon. bet the 7 and pays 4:1. if you can dice set, roll 7's all day long.
There yah go brother
I have been playing this and it seems a great way to play and take advantage of the 7's. Thanks Waylon.
Yw brother
I’m really loving this one!
Thnx brother
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Thanks brother
I personally would make this more complicated, by doing a $10 dont come bet and do odds (on a 3-4-5x table this would always be 6x flat and pays either 3-4-5x flat). While covering each number with $10.
When the 7 comes you can just hand the odds stack and ask to lay the last point coving your next dont come.
Nice system Waylon! As long as they don’t repeat numbers when you are coming out, or hit a bunch of points, you are golden!
Yeah awesome for a cold table brother
@@waylonswaycraps I rolled it out a little on my app, but went for three hits then started to hit and pull. This is a more risky way to play but a little more fun on the eventual long roll. Love the idea’s, they get the brain working for new ways to attack the game.
@@Faux.Player levels 100/10,200/20,300/30,400/40 if you want to ladder it up and down and never take down your bets! Works great
@@waylonswaycraps have you ever done an inside regression strategy where you do 4 units, reduce it in half then reduce it again after each hit?
@@Faux.Player yes I have
That's a winner!
Thanks brother! I appreciate yah
Hey Gentlemen I have been involved with the Di groups for many years You don't need to toss forever and a day there is a dice set if tossed correctly will give you no 5 or 9 has 4 sevens on faces I make bank with this 99 percent of the time I play short sessions and get out Dodge good luck everyone
What's the set ? I'll be glad to do a video on it!
@@waylonswaycraps That would be the 5/2 on two faces with the 6/1 on the other two faces provided you stay on axis. If you single, double or triple pitch any one of the dice on axis (or any combination of pitching of the two dice), no 5 or 9. But with the alligators that's gonna be a hard feat to keep both dice always on axis, just saying.
PART 2- As far as betting is concerned, let’s say you lay the back wall for $560 you win $340 on a 7 (minus vig) of course.
Let’s say instead you place $640 across you win $140 on the 5 through 9 and $200 on the 4 & 10. Any good DI can roll at least in the teens. So you make more money on the place bets than you would with a 7 out.
I got quite a few strategies betting across that do pretty good but like you say you gotta be able to shoot the dice
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Yes sir my friend
60% profit ain't bad