Tank you Helmut for this review. This it strengthens my conviction that new technology give us great power but with higher consumption and weight. After that came pollution which take us power back and give more weight and consumption. At the end we have safety devices which protects us from additional power and weight and let us only more weight and even higher consumption. So we go to basics because is allways better! I drive day by day Tucson Plug-In (you tested). A nice car but with all electroncs and assistance and confort I feel that it robs me of the pleasure of driving a car.
You're right, although it must be admitted that the industry generally did a good job in keeping consumption rather low despite the weights going up (in most cases it's for the better, i.e. safety). It wasn't all better in the old days ;)
Thank you very much for your work. Your test proves that actual small petrol cars can be really efficient. If ever you can test the Mitsubishi Space Star manual it could be interesting to compare.
Omg, this is exactly the content on fuel comsuption that I like to see when research a new car, sir, thank you! So much really what a piece of content, the patience and dedication to make all this and for free, thanks! +1 like +1 Sub
Thank you , this is a very useful showcase , the roads you chose to drive on were on point and very compatible with the real life situations , I would like to see you compare this car with mitsubishi space star (1.0/1.2) . thank you very much , very fascinating work.
I have a 2019 model 1.0 manual. Summertime it get 4.8lit per 100km winter 5.4. I have found that going on lower gear in city takes less fuel as u motor brake more often. Mostly city driving
I am in the process of buying a city car due to having a long commute to work. Would you say that in a warm climate with the AC full blast all day, i10 or Aygo X is a better choice for the consumption?
Very interesting numbers, still very close to my 2.gen. Citroen C1 1.0 (alias Aygo), with very identical style of driving. My hill drives must be different compare to Austrian hills, but except this i could do 3,5l/100km once, and 3,6 l/100km many times on open roads. The 110km/h motorway 4,5l here compare to my 95-100km/h motorway consumption with 3,9-4,2 l/100km (depending on tires and weather-same weather we saw here, i usually do 4,2). City of Budapest with its no green-light wave, and crowded roads is again not comparable to small(er) city where Mr Ecodriver drives his cars, so my upper 5, or even 6l/100km is different. The conclusion: my tought about the professional technical talent of Citroen/Toyota is maybe ok, but it seems clearly that Hyundai also can achieve the same level in good hands, what is a (just a little) bit surprise for me. I thought my 3,6l a fantastic one:)
I will get the new Aygo Cross within the next two weeks, we'll see how good it is :) As for big-city driving, I basically can drive (and was driving) the same way in cities like Milan, Munich, London and Vienna. Firstly normally one is not exclusively driving on the big boulevards all the time, there are quieter roads in those cities as well (as they are in Budapest, as far I have seen, although I never drove there), and secondly, what seems like "green-waves" is often the result of my driving, as I approach the traffic-lights in a way that avoids stopping as much as possible ;)
@@ecodriver1746 im excited about that numbers, altough the Aygo Cross has grown a bit, but the engine remained basically the same. Of course, "green-waves" depends on the driving style and foresight, its very true, but sadly not only the actual driver's one, but the mass of drivers habitat too. I could drive really good in green waves like Wien, Rome, Munich, even Paris too, but can't in Budapest. The driving culture is another level : lack of driving culture.. Everybody go with full throttle and full brake style between 2 (red) lamps, even if it is clearly visible, that it will be red light/stop again. If u try to keep the green light wave, adjust your speed, to avoid throttle and brake constantly, they horn, actually dangers your cars back end with their cars front end, or simply overtake you while in rolling, and stop in front of you suddenly.. So without traffic incidents u cant drive in green waves usually here. Very sad. Its all against the effort of the engineers to save gasoline, make enviroments low. Have to tell, the green waves never calculated-regulated right by the sanction body of traffic control either, if u try keep somewhere to the optimal your speed, you highly miss the green or overtake the green. No proper adjusment at all. Sad. One positive anyway: at night its possible to drive in clever form even if you must pass the normal city speed limits:)
@@ecodriver1746 Yes, its a shame. And it is very annoying, keep you out to be pollution-free as much as u could do. Its not just about the consumption reduction, but the use/save of your own cars mechanical. (which is the same important part of enviroment impact)
Hy Zsolt, I ' ve sold my dear Citro - C1 at mid february, but that car is much lighter, now I have the Hy - I - 10, but I bought the N - Line, and it weighs almost 1100 Kg, but with the turbo engine I manage to get quite good consumptions, except for the times when we crawl through the bottle - necks in the City, than it reaches up to 7,3 liters/100 Km !
Hi Gregor, as ADAC has found out in a study, around 75% of the car's BCs will show higher consumption as the real one, only 16 of 75 tested ones show lower one. And as I get the cars only for my test-trip (plus transfer), which is in most cases around 100 kms, plus the cars are never full, so it would require me to spend lots of money (which I never earn through this) on fuel, and that's not gonna happen. If possible I try to get information out of spritmonitor.de, where real users of any car enter their real and sometime BC-based information about their consumption and I mention that in the video. In case of the i10 the difference is around 0,4 l/100 kms plus in reality, so we can assume that real consumption is around 4,4 l/100 kms.
@@ecodriver1746 yes, it would be very expensive to fill up every time. You can do these with your own car :) I didnt know that about ADAC. I thougt all BC are lower numbers?
With my own cars I found the Volvo XC90 pretty accurate (+-0,1), the Mazda CX-5 G194 showed on average 0,15 less than in reality. Here's the study from ADAC (in german) www.adac.de/rund-ums-fahrzeug/tests/autotest/bordcomputer-verbrauchswerte/
Would a slighly bigger 1.2 engine be better as the engine has more power to carry the weight. Also if you have 3 or more adults the weight causes higher fuel cost. The prevoius model suzukijimny 1.3 is too small for the heavy 4x4 car and is not that fuel efficient, the newer 1.5L engine is slightly more fuel efficint than the previous 1.3L ....Lol. Hyundai 1.0 cars can only carty two adults to be fuel efficient.
Sure, the heavier the load the better it is to have a bigger engine. On the other hand, if you regularly have 3 or more adults in a car I am not sure you'd go for the i10 ;)
This engine is so damn thirsty. I tried to hypermile with it while i got it from my mother. The best it could do was 4.8 measured at the petrol station... All done behind the Truck 2 seconds distance and 5th gear
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Tank you Helmut for this review. This it strengthens my conviction that new technology give us great power but with higher consumption and weight. After that came pollution which take us power back and give more weight and consumption. At the end we have safety devices which protects us from additional power and weight and let us only more weight and even higher consumption. So we go to basics because is allways better! I drive day by day Tucson Plug-In (you tested). A nice car but with all electroncs and assistance and confort I feel that it robs me of the pleasure of driving a car.
You're right, although it must be admitted that the industry generally did a good job in keeping consumption rather low despite the weights going up (in most cases it's for the better, i.e. safety). It wasn't all better in the old days ;)
I have the 1.2 one… in a 36 l fuel tank can get up to 800 km mixed drive
Thank you very much for your work. Your test proves that actual small petrol cars can be really efficient. If ever you can test the Mitsubishi Space Star manual it could be interesting to compare.
You're welcome! I'll ask the dealer for that.
Omg, this is exactly the content on fuel comsuption that I like to see when research a new car, sir, thank you! So much really what a piece of content, the patience and dedication to make all this and for free, thanks! +1 like +1 Sub
Thank you , this is a very useful showcase , the roads you chose to drive on were on point and very compatible with the real life situations , I would like to see you compare this car with mitsubishi space star (1.0/1.2) . thank you very much , very fascinating work.
Thanks.
thank you so much for this informative video!
You are very welcome.
I have a 2019 model 1.0 manual. Summertime it get 4.8lit per 100km winter 5.4.
I have found that going on lower gear in city takes less fuel as u motor brake more often. Mostly city driving
Thank you, very nice.
I am in the process of buying a city car due to having a long commute to work. Would you say that in a warm climate with the AC full blast all day, i10 or Aygo X is a better choice for the consumption?
Very interesting numbers, still very close to my 2.gen. Citroen C1 1.0 (alias Aygo), with very identical style of driving. My hill drives must be different compare to Austrian hills, but except this i could do 3,5l/100km once, and 3,6 l/100km many times on open roads. The 110km/h motorway 4,5l here compare to my 95-100km/h motorway consumption with 3,9-4,2 l/100km (depending on tires and weather-same weather we saw here, i usually do 4,2). City of Budapest with its no green-light wave, and crowded roads is again not comparable to small(er) city where Mr Ecodriver drives his cars, so my upper 5, or even 6l/100km is different. The conclusion: my tought about the professional technical talent of Citroen/Toyota is maybe ok, but it seems clearly that Hyundai also can achieve the same level in good hands, what is a (just a little) bit surprise for me. I thought my 3,6l a fantastic one:)
I will get the new Aygo Cross within the next two weeks, we'll see how good it is :)
As for big-city driving, I basically can drive (and was driving) the same way in cities like Milan, Munich, London and Vienna. Firstly normally one is not exclusively driving on the big boulevards all the time, there are quieter roads in those cities as well (as they are in Budapest, as far I have seen, although I never drove there), and secondly, what seems like "green-waves" is often the result of my driving, as I approach the traffic-lights in a way that avoids stopping as much as possible ;)
@@ecodriver1746 im excited about that numbers, altough the Aygo Cross has grown a bit, but the engine remained basically the same. Of course, "green-waves" depends on the driving style and foresight, its very true, but sadly not only the actual driver's one, but the mass of drivers habitat too. I could drive really good in green waves like Wien, Rome, Munich, even Paris too, but can't in Budapest. The driving culture is another level : lack of driving culture.. Everybody go with full throttle and full brake style between 2 (red) lamps, even if it is clearly visible, that it will be red light/stop again. If u try to keep the green light wave, adjust your speed, to avoid throttle and brake constantly, they horn, actually dangers your cars back end with their cars front end, or simply overtake you while in rolling, and stop in front of you suddenly.. So without traffic incidents u cant drive in green waves usually here. Very sad. Its all against the effort of the engineers to save gasoline, make enviroments low.
Have to tell, the green waves never calculated-regulated right by the sanction body of traffic control either, if u try keep somewhere to the optimal your speed, you highly miss the green or overtake the green. No proper adjusment at all. Sad. One positive anyway: at night its possible to drive in clever form even if you must pass the normal city speed limits:)
Such a shame. I didn't notice this when I was there (mainly using buses and trams). Sounds like south-east asian driving behaviour to me :))
@@ecodriver1746 Yes, its a shame. And it is very annoying, keep you out to be pollution-free as much as u could do. Its not just about the consumption reduction, but the use/save of your own cars mechanical. (which is the same important part of enviroment impact)
Hy Zsolt, I ' ve sold my dear Citro - C1 at mid february, but that car is much lighter, now I have the Hy - I - 10, but I bought the N - Line, and it weighs almost 1100 Kg, but with the turbo engine I manage to get quite good consumptions, except for the times when we crawl through the bottle - necks in the City, than it reaches up to 7,3 liters/100 Km !
Helmut, why dont you calculate real consumption instead of board computer consumption. There can be up to 10 or 15% diference.
Hi Gregor, as ADAC has found out in a study, around 75% of the car's BCs will show higher consumption as the real one, only 16 of 75 tested ones show lower one. And as I get the cars only for my test-trip (plus transfer), which is in most cases around 100 kms, plus the cars are never full, so it would require me to spend lots of money (which I never earn through this) on fuel, and that's not gonna happen.
If possible I try to get information out of spritmonitor.de, where real users of any car enter their real and sometime BC-based information about their consumption and I mention that in the video. In case of the i10 the difference is around 0,4 l/100 kms plus in reality, so we can assume that real consumption is around 4,4 l/100 kms.
@@ecodriver1746 yes, it would be very expensive to fill up every time. You can do these with your own car :) I didnt know that about ADAC. I thougt all BC are lower numbers?
With my own cars I found the Volvo XC90 pretty accurate (+-0,1), the Mazda CX-5 G194 showed on average 0,15 less than in reality.
Here's the study from ADAC (in german)
www.adac.de/rund-ums-fahrzeug/tests/autotest/bordcomputer-verbrauchswerte/
Toyota: We have most economical (hybrid) cars
Hyundai: Hold my beer! 🍺
Naaah, not really, Toyota is still way ahead. Wait for Wednesday ;)
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Suzuki swift is better than aygo x? i fuel efficient?
If you go on a highway and try to keep up with traffic these cars are not light on fuel and if you have passengers it's worse.
Would a slighly bigger 1.2 engine be better as the engine has more power to carry the weight. Also if you have 3 or more adults the weight causes higher fuel cost. The prevoius model suzukijimny 1.3 is too small for the heavy 4x4 car and is not that fuel efficient, the newer 1.5L engine is slightly more fuel efficint than the previous 1.3L ....Lol. Hyundai 1.0 cars can only carty two adults to be fuel efficient.
Sure, the heavier the load the better it is to have a bigger engine. On the other hand, if you regularly have 3 or more adults in a car I am not sure you'd go for the i10 ;)
This engine is so damn thirsty. I tried to hypermile with it while i got it from my mother. The best it could do was 4.8 measured at the petrol station... All done behind the Truck 2 seconds distance and 5th gear