I'm a 3D artist who also happens to live in Montana. I have some reference pictures of river ice I took last fall that I'd be willing to share if you were interested.
I’ve been playing WolfQuest since 2010 - it was my favourite thing to play after school. It has remained one of my favourite games I’ve ever been able to play, and now, as an adult, I’m still very excited to see the game progress and play a whole new game in the new version. Great to see how dedicated and serious the WQ team has been about improving upon the game. Thank you for creating it!
i havent played old wolf quest in a long time but i wanted wolf quest anniversery edtion so bad it was my dream game but its for pc so my dad built me a computer to play it i was so happy
Ok This game is literally looking amazing I’m so excited to play slough creek I can’t believe ho much this game has improved and how far this game has come this is looking so much better than 2.7 and I don’t think any game has improved this much as wolf quest!
ICEEEE the details on that and how the river will change- You guys go beyond amazing. Keep up all the good work because us WQ players out here love it!
I think perhaps wolf quest could come out with some more wolf skins? Also when I clicked on this I thought the title was *Nice Lice* and I was like “parasites in wolf quest?”
I know Wolf Quest since I was a teen and today I'm almost 28 and I still loved the game and when I seen what hard work you guys have put into it. I have returned to play it big time! So much more life into it! Truly love the mechanic and the liveness in the animals and just I always expect more things to do such as maybe digging, or caves, or even dens where the wolfs can sleep in. And with the way you guys work so well I don't doubt some good things are about to come! Thank you so much for that experince! Truly this game made me appreciate wolfs so much and love them.!
Hey wolfquest, I just want to let the group know, You guys are doing amazing with this game! I love how much detail you put trying to make it realistic yet still fun! Good job guys
Dang this looks amazing wq! I honestly can’t wait to play the slough creek episode! And can’t wait for the puppy’s! I love how far you guys have come and can’t not wait to see more!
I love how much detail you and the WolfQuest team put into this game. The teensie, tiny details will overall make the game even more beautiful than it already is.
Gosh I can’t wait until the mobile version is available! My PC is too slow to handle the game, so I had to use mobile, and I remember thinking when I first got it how pretty the game was. But THIS is on a WHOLE NEW LEVEL!!
I love that the seasons are changing in Wolfquest. I love the fact that there are ice floes, so that the season transitions. This is why, my friends, why I live in British Colombia, because of the fact that the seasons change and transition, and I'm glad to see that ingame, too! :)
I'm falling more and more in love with the new Slough Creek map, with all the realistic attention to detail. The ice in the wintertime is the perfect touch, and I love how the wolves can walk on it without slipping. Awesome work, as always! :D
Didn't even think about ice being added to rivers. Just absolutely stunning and how fast you create them is even more surprising. Just shows how well developed this game is. Can't wait XD
I think this is really cool! I never assumed we'd get free time out in early spring without pups. 2.7 was just "Boom you have pups and it's spring now" (this might also be the first time I've seen one of your videos without a dislike in sight 🤣)
Oooooh that Ice looks *fancy.* I don't think my computer will be able to handle that, but I mean it surprisingly can run a hosted multiplayer game on Amythest so I guess I won't know till its out! You guys are doing an absolutely amazing job! I can't wait to see it in person.
You might be able to! It seems like Dave is using Normal maps and not Displacement maps on the ice. Normal maps will not affect the ice's actual mesh shape so your computer won't have to render that. It just creates false shadows that react to light as if it did have special 3d geometry, but in reality it doesn't so weaker devices can handle it! This is how beautiful games such as Red matter can run smoothly on a snapdragon (A snapdragon is the processer for the Oculus quest, and it's a tiny bit stronger than a mobile device.) On the other hand, Displacement maps modify and extrude a mesh's geometry, which is almost, but not as problematic for weaker computers as actual over-subdivided meshes would be. You should be in the clear!
@@ohhi1855 Oh awesome! Thank you, I did not know that! However, I still don't know if my computer will be able to run Slough creek in general. But after what you said I'm slightly more confident it will run it. Then again, my fps doesn't usually go above 14-15fps (sometimes it stays at 17, and rarely on 24fps if I'm standing idle) and I'm on the lowest graphics setting so hopefully Slough creek wont be too much more complex than Amythest is already.
That's amazing!!! Wolves and snow were always the perfect mix to me, and I didn't even think of big ol' ice blocks in the water! This world is so expansive and beautiful, I hope I'll be able to get a good gaming computer eventually so I can experience it to the fullest extent
On the subject of ice, I think that the wolves should be able to do a little animation when where they get up on the ice, they use their dew claws to grip the ice and pull themselves up. I’ve seen this with dogs, so I’d assume wolves’ dew claws would work the same way
I love wolf quest 3!! Its amazing how realistic it looks! Its just amazing how u even kept floppy the moose and the black cat that sat at the police station. I really enjoy the game already even if i can only watch videos of it. Keep up ur amazing work!💖
That’s flippin’ epic. I seriously am more amazed every time at the amount of detail you guys put into this game. It’s so great, I love the community and how you guys are so involved with us. Unfortunately, some of the big companies don’t care at all and treat their customers poorly, and overcharge on everything because it’s all about profit for them. But you guys do everything you can to make the game as great as it can be, listen to the community, and pack as much as you can into a low-cost game, making sure we get our money’s worth. Basically, just thank you for everything that you do.
I completely forgot it was Thursday so you bet I practically screamed when I saw this notification. I’ve read about wolves and their hunting behavior and how ice and water ties into it. For example, prey (elk in this case) running into the water to keep away while the wolves pace on the bank. I wonder how the elk in game will react to this! And welcome to the team Donovin!
I had an idea, of like a mound of snow that can be some sort of den in the winter, because isn't snow warmer on the inside than the outside? Unless somebody's already had the idea, or you're already doing this, or maybe think it'd be too much, that's okay, but still. It would be really cool.
Ayyy!! I love the so far process a lot, parts of the world already looks like a photograph which I’ve learned to appreciate. The ice is really nicely done and references are well used imo. There is one thing I’ve been meaning to suggest for quite a while though, which would be more gameplay related. The wolf in its current animations oftentimes feels rather stiff and its option to jump is rather reduced to the x. I understand that jumping may not be supposed to be too complex or common but a variety in movement can really make an animal feel more alive. Crouching down fully with CTRL and jumping with SPACE makes platforming a lot more fun for me and I feel like it would make controlling the wolf a lot more familiar to people who have past gameplay experience. Small idle animations like yawning, stretching, lifting the head up and down or just scratching themselves could really make the wolf feel more alive when we don’t actively control them. I’ve sadly always felt a certain lack of muscle movement within the body of the animations, which I’ve been meaning to express in a constructive manner, however I understand I am no game developer and am trying to apply fun gameplay logic to a simulator. ;; Regardless of how this criticism is taken, if it is reviewed at all, I wish the project best of luck and look forward to playing the full release version one day, regardless of the direction it will take from here on out! uvu
early in my life i had this HUGE wolf obsession (1st-early 4th) and i used to play this game 24/7. really warms my heart to see that it’s still being worked on and it’s getting better every time i look at it. i got the anniversary edition yesterday and i’ve played it nonstop-excited to see where’s it’s headed!
I actually have a wolf quest idea So like when it's like raining and stuff like that and then there are thunder and then when it hits a tree it lits the tree up on fire,so when it does that I think it should go to different types of trees and if you go to the fire or the tree on fire it damages your health almost half way. I really hope this does happen because it be really cool and a bit realistic I think 😅 but yeah
YES! ICE! THATS SO COOL! Its looking amazing so far! I love the detail and everything you are putting into this!! And I actually was decent on timeish XD cause I just got home from work lol, but hey ik here and I've watched this so yay!!!
Do you think you'd be interested in making the "ice river" an interesting strategic point,as in: if wolves cant slip on ice,maybe preys like elks or others could slip on it,so the player could simply chase after a prey and lead it all the way to the ice to make it easier to catch ?
Halfway through, I was wondering if we could climb the ice floats. Happy to see that we can. Loving that there's gonna be ice in this game! Wonder if we could also walk on that frozen water and potentially fall through.
YAY! Wow you guys I love this and omg I love that youve gone so far! Everyone loves the hard work that you guys are doing to finish and keep creating this beautiful and educational game!💖💖 me an MANY others love it! Keep up the amazing work! I know it may be tricky but you guys and your team have gone far and beyond the stars with this game for real! Love it! Your faithful follower- wolfy 💖
Hey just wanted to say that I saw a glitch in lost river map. When I was looking at a fenced building below Hank’s ditch I saw that a moose had gotten in somehow. But I don’t think the npc’s are suppose to get into the fenced area. Anyways, the moose was let’s say, not walking like a normal moose. Glitching out of form, twisting and turning its body. It was pretty funny.
I hope they make it so some prey animals slip around on the ice a bit while running which could slow them down ? And make turning more risky at hunting prey while on ice. Could also make a splashing aniamtation when the wolves jump into water. And have the wolves look soaked when coming out and a shake animation. Maybe even the ice can crack when it becomes warmer and your wolf will fall in the water?
Like "snow" 🗻 melts in yellowstone when "spring" comes, OUR "HEARtS" ❤ will melt when "puppies" will come ' They're so "cuttteee" ' !!!@!!!! My cuTie PIEs !!😍😍😍😍
It'd be cool if we could chase prey onto the ice. I remember reading somewhere that wolves are way better on ice than hooved animals.
Claws are handy!
Oooo maybe the prey could slip all over the place!!
@@WolfQuestGame Aye, Winter is just a Wolf’s best friend!
@@WolfQuestGame No, claws are clawy. Hands are handy.
:00 great idea!
Ah yes, snow and ice. Nothing is more wholesome and majestic than seeing wolves in snow.
Indeed
Agreed
Y e s
*Y U S*
y e s
When the tile texture for the ice sheets came up
*Everybody liked that*
Whoa this blew up lol
I'm a 3D artist who also happens to live in Montana. I have some reference pictures of river ice I took last fall that I'd be willing to share if you were interested.
You're epic for that offer.
What's it like there????
Patrick Marum I live in Montana too! The answer to your question is simple, we have winter for 6-8 months xD it’s cold, but it’s so pretty!
@@EnidsFang I live in England
ThatFatDog lucky
I’ve been playing WolfQuest since 2010 - it was my favourite thing to play after school. It has remained one of my favourite games I’ve ever been able to play, and now, as an adult, I’m still very excited to see the game progress and play a whole new game in the new version. Great to see how dedicated and serious the WQ team has been about improving upon the game. Thank you for creating it!
I'm so glad I'm not the only one gushing about memories whenever I play! Been playing since roughly 2010 myself.
Same here! I used to play when I was 11 and It’s crazy seeing how far they’ve come now that I’m an adult
i havent played old wolf quest in a long time but i wanted wolf quest anniversery edtion so bad it was my dream game but its for pc so my dad built me a computer to play it i was so happy
Now those are some real nicebergs!
yup
Ok This game is literally looking amazing I’m so excited to play slough creek I can’t believe ho much this game has improved and how far this game has come this is looking so much better than 2.7 and I don’t think any game has improved this much as wolf quest!
ICEEEE the details on that and how the river will change- You guys go beyond amazing. Keep up all the good work because us WQ players out here love it!
Agreed
Will birds land on iceflow and will other animals go on iceflows.
Mates also don't realize that the tower in Lost River is climbable. I wish my mate would go up the tower with me and hang out :/
Yeah it’s annoying when they don’t follow up hills
OMG I can't wait for the pups and slough creek! Aaaaaa!
I think perhaps wolf quest could come out with some more wolf skins?
Also when I clicked on this I thought the title was *Nice Lice* and I was like
“parasites in wolf quest?”
🤣
Wtf 😂
More coats would be neat, or to be able to customize the coats more.
I'm sorry I know it's not realistic for the area but I still want a pure white wolf coat 😭
*Ah, yes. No wolf wolf game would be complete without some....*
*nIcE lIcE*
I know Wolf Quest since I was a teen and today I'm almost 28 and I still loved the game and when I seen what hard work you guys have put into it. I have returned to play it big time! So much more life into it! Truly love the mechanic and the liveness in the animals and just I always expect more things to do such as maybe digging, or caves, or even dens where the wolfs can sleep in.
And with the way you guys work so well I don't doubt some good things are about to come!
Thank you so much for that experince! Truly this game made me appreciate wolfs so much and love them.!
Shake animation when you come out of water maybe? Looking beautiful by the way.
:O will ice be slippery?
Wolves have good claws.
@@WolfQuestGame ooh! Ty!
@Tahmi it's a game, just accept it my friend 😂
@@WolfQuestGame Dang right they do!
the hec i knaw tath
Can't wait for the whole thing to be finished
Ah! I can't wait for the full game X3 The game looks so amazing do far!
As much as I love the game , I really enjoy watching the creative process behind the game.
Hey wolfquest, I just want to let the group know, You guys are doing amazing with this game! I love how much detail you put trying to make it realistic yet still fun! Good job guys
Nice ice sounds like some kind of iced water drink
I honestly can wait for Slough Creek! Keep up the good work!
I’m ECSTATIC about this game, I remember playing WolfQuest 2 and being totally hyped about it, this is literally insane
YAY AN UPDATE I can’t wait! Good job y’all!
what a wonderful game made by wonderful people. I can't wait to play this someday.
This looks incredible so far!!! Thank you all for working so hard on this!
Dang this looks amazing wq! I honestly can’t wait to play the slough creek episode! And can’t wait for the puppy’s! I love how far you guys have come and can’t not wait to see more!
I love how transparent you guys are with your community :)
I love how much detail you and the WolfQuest team put into this game. The teensie, tiny details will overall make the game even more beautiful than it already is.
I can tell already that slough creek will be great.
Me: thinks in early
me: not early༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
random idiot ME TOO!
random idiot same
(;´༎ຶٹ༎ຶ`)
@@reverse_osmosis (༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ)
I love love love all the sleeping possibilities like a natural wolf 😍
Gosh I can’t wait until the mobile version is available! My PC is too slow to handle the game, so I had to use mobile, and I remember thinking when I first got it how pretty the game was. But THIS is on a WHOLE NEW LEVEL!!
It'd be crazy cool if the ice floes could move~
I love the snow textures, I'm so excited to play the game!!!
I love that the seasons are changing in Wolfquest. I love the fact that there are ice floes, so that the season transitions. This is why, my friends, why I live in British Colombia, because of the fact that the seasons change and transition, and I'm glad to see that ingame, too! :)
I'm so pumped for the Slough Creek episode, I just know that it'll be even MORE awesome than Amethyst Mountain, I can't wait to raise some cute pups!🐺
I'm falling more and more in love with the new Slough Creek map, with all the realistic attention to detail. The ice in the wintertime is the perfect touch, and I love how the wolves can walk on it without slipping. Awesome work, as always! :D
Omg you mate is so mood just completely running over the ice
Didn't even think about ice being added to rivers. Just absolutely stunning and how fast you create them is even more surprising. Just shows how well developed this game is. Can't wait XD
I can see a lot of people dive bombing off the ice and into the water (me included).
Looks great! I love how much extra detail you guys have put into this game. It’s truly a labor of love. 🥰
This game is so cool!! I love to unwind and relax and play these games
The detail is.. immaculate.
I think this is really cool! I never assumed we'd get free time out in early spring without pups. 2.7 was just "Boom you have pups and it's spring now" (this might also be the first time I've seen one of your videos without a dislike in sight 🤣)
Oooooh that Ice looks *fancy.* I don't think my computer will be able to handle that, but I mean it surprisingly can run a hosted multiplayer game on Amythest so I guess I won't know till its out! You guys are doing an absolutely amazing job! I can't wait to see it in person.
You might be able to! It seems like Dave is using Normal maps and not Displacement maps on the ice.
Normal maps will not affect the ice's actual mesh shape so your computer won't have to render that. It just creates false shadows that react to light as if it did have special 3d geometry, but in reality it doesn't so weaker devices can handle it! This is how beautiful games such as Red matter can run smoothly on a snapdragon (A snapdragon is the processer for the Oculus quest, and it's a tiny bit stronger than a mobile device.)
On the other hand, Displacement maps modify and extrude a mesh's geometry, which is almost, but not as problematic for weaker computers as actual over-subdivided meshes would be. You should be in the clear!
@@ohhi1855 Oh awesome! Thank you, I did not know that! However, I still don't know if my computer will be able to run Slough creek in general. But after what you said I'm slightly more confident it will run it. Then again, my fps doesn't usually go above 14-15fps (sometimes it stays at 17, and rarely on 24fps if I'm standing idle) and I'm on the lowest graphics setting so hopefully Slough creek wont be too much more complex than Amythest is already.
@@Ubiquitousducky Ah, okay! whether it works or not, I hope it'll still be fun.
@@ohhi1855 ^
That's amazing!!! Wolves and snow were always the perfect mix to me, and I didn't even think of big ol' ice blocks in the water! This world is so expansive and beautiful, I hope I'll be able to get a good gaming computer eventually so I can experience it to the fullest extent
Wow! The seasons look amazing, you captured spring and winter like a boss!
That is really nice ice :)
On the subject of ice, I think that the wolves should be able to do a little animation when where they get up on the ice, they use their dew claws to grip the ice and pull themselves up. I’ve seen this with dogs, so I’d assume wolves’ dew claws would work the same way
Wow! The swimming is so smooth and realistic! Love this game!
It looks great! I like the fact that we can walk onto the ice floats, so detailed too. Keep up the good work!
The WolfQuest development team is doing an amazing job!
I love wolf quest 3!! Its amazing how realistic it looks! Its just amazing how u even kept floppy the moose and the black cat that sat at the police station. I really enjoy the game already even if i can only watch videos of it. Keep up ur amazing work!💖
Oh! That cute wolf jump into the water!!
That’s flippin’ epic. I seriously am more amazed every time at the amount of detail you guys put into this game. It’s so great, I love the community and how you guys are so involved with us. Unfortunately, some of the big companies don’t care at all and treat their customers poorly, and overcharge on everything because it’s all about profit for them. But you guys do everything you can to make the game as great as it can be, listen to the community, and pack as much as you can into a low-cost game, making sure we get our money’s worth. Basically, just thank you for everything that you do.
YAY BLUE AND TIEGR CAN PLAY IN THE SNOW
Imagine the wolves slipping on the icebergs 😅
You guys are literally gods! This game is going to be golden! It’s gonna go down in history! 👍👌😆😊👏👏
Tahmi xD Yeah
i loooovee mountain lakes and scenery around them. this is looking beautiful! keep up the great work
I completely forgot it was Thursday so you bet I practically screamed when I saw this notification. I’ve read about wolves and their hunting behavior and how ice and water ties into it. For example, prey (elk in this case) running into the water to keep away while the wolves pace on the bank. I wonder how the elk in game will react to this! And welcome to the team Donovin!
Just from the pic, I can tell this is gonna be good
It looks awesome and also I'm trying to be patient waiting
I had an idea, of like a mound of snow that can be some sort of den in the winter, because isn't snow warmer on the inside than the outside? Unless somebody's already had the idea, or you're already doing this, or maybe think it'd be too much, that's okay, but still. It would be really cool.
Ayyy!! I love the so far process a lot, parts of the world already looks like a photograph which I’ve learned to appreciate. The ice is really nicely done and references are well used imo. There is one thing I’ve been meaning to suggest for quite a while though, which would be more gameplay related. The wolf in its current animations oftentimes feels rather stiff and its option to jump is rather reduced to the x. I understand that jumping may not be supposed to be too complex or common but a variety in movement can really make an animal feel more alive. Crouching down fully with CTRL and jumping with SPACE makes platforming a lot more fun for me and I feel like it would make controlling the wolf a lot more familiar to people who have past gameplay experience. Small idle animations like yawning, stretching, lifting the head up and down or just scratching themselves could really make the wolf feel more alive when we don’t actively control them. I’ve sadly always felt a certain lack of muscle movement within the body of the animations, which I’ve been meaning to express in a constructive manner, however I understand I am no game developer and am trying to apply fun gameplay logic to a simulator. ;; Regardless of how this criticism is taken, if it is reviewed at all, I wish the project best of luck and look forward to playing the full release version one day, regardless of the direction it will take from here on out! uvu
early in my life i had this HUGE wolf obsession (1st-early 4th) and i used to play this game 24/7. really warms my heart to see that it’s still being worked on and it’s getting better every time i look at it. i got the anniversary edition yesterday and i’ve played it nonstop-excited to see where’s it’s headed!
I actually have a wolf quest idea
So like when it's like raining and stuff like that and then there are thunder and then when it hits a tree it lits the tree up on fire,so when it does that I think it should go to different types of trees and if you go to the fire or the tree on fire it damages your health almost half way. I really hope this does happen because it be really cool and a bit realistic I think 😅 but yeah
I think that would be a really cool and realistic idea to! :-)
Agh, this game gets more and more exciting with each video!
Heh, whoever knew I'd be excited for some ice. Keep up the great work!
YES! ICE! THATS SO COOL! Its looking amazing so far! I love the detail and everything you are putting into this!!
And I actually was decent on timeish XD cause I just got home from work lol, but hey ik here and I've watched this so yay!!!
Ohh I can't wait til Slough Creek is done!
Yes!!! I absolutely can't wait! I look forward to your videos every Friday!
I love how much detail you put into things that most players wont even realize is there. Amazing work as always!
these are gorgeous!! not sure if its possible but adding some translucency to the flat pieces would look amazing.
Do you think you'd be interested in making the "ice river" an interesting strategic point,as in: if wolves cant slip on ice,maybe preys like elks or others could slip on it,so the player could simply chase after a prey and lead it all the way to the ice to make it easier to catch ?
i feel like i’m watching a bob ross video watching him texture the ice lol
Halfway through, I was wondering if we could climb the ice floats.
Happy to see that we can.
Loving that there's gonna be ice in this game! Wonder if we could also walk on that frozen water and potentially fall through.
Right now it is swimming and climbing up.
Looks awesome!!! Love wolfquest
So will moose run into water to get away from you
and will Moose dive into the water and pull up seaweed?
Haha, if it's there it won't be SEAweed, that's for sure~
It would be great to see the moose exhibiting their semi-aquatic behavior, though~!
WE APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH WOLF QUEST
This is such a cool detail! You guys are amazing
Whoever disliked this video probably hates WolfQuest but I LOVE WolfQuest!
thanks i love it too
:3
@@ryleighgolden115 why a thanks tho
6:52 I can just imagine jumping into the water from there
I never thought I'd be as excited about icebergs as I am rn 😂
YAY! Wow you guys I love this and omg I love that youve gone so far! Everyone loves the hard work that you guys are doing to finish and keep creating this beautiful and educational game!💖💖 me an MANY others love it! Keep up the amazing work! I know it may be tricky but you guys and your team have gone far and beyond the stars with this game for real! Love it!
Your faithful follower- wolfy 💖
Hey just wanted to say that I saw a glitch in lost river map. When I was looking at a fenced building below Hank’s ditch I saw that a moose had gotten in somehow. But I don’t think the npc’s are suppose to get into the fenced area. Anyways, the moose was let’s say, not walking like a normal moose. Glitching out of form, twisting and turning its body. It was pretty funny.
Sierra Faith oh well, I can tell you I love Floppy :D just thought it might be a bug or something
I am LOVING the detail!!
Yessss early game looks great! Can’t wait to play with pups❤️❤️!
You know what would be cool? Early morning fog on the lake. That would be nICE and COOL.
Is ice still gonna be around when pups arrive? Or the little bits of snow? If so would pups also be able to play on ice
By the time the pups are out of the den and exploring, the ice will be gone.
I just realized
this video was made on my birthday. What a beautiful update!
Happy birthday!
@@WolfQuestGame TY TwT
I hope they make it so some prey animals slip around on the ice a bit while running which could slow them down ? And make turning more risky at hunting prey while on ice. Could also make a splashing aniamtation when the wolves jump into water. And have the wolves look soaked when coming out and a shake animation. Maybe even the ice can crack when it becomes warmer and your wolf will fall in the water?
So cool ack! Can't wait 🥺
Love wolf quest ❤️
Ahhhhhhhhh I can’t wait for it to come to mobile!!!! I AM SO THANKFUL FOR U GUYS!!!!
this video was uploaded six days after the last video, instead of a week? wow haha! I won't complain, but It just caught me off guard!
Last week's video was a day late so we could announce the release of multiplayer!
I'm so excited mostly for the seasons I love this
Like "snow" 🗻 melts in yellowstone when "spring" comes,
OUR "HEARtS" ❤ will melt when "puppies" will come
' They're so "cuttteee" ' !!!@!!!!
My cuTie PIEs !!😍😍😍😍
I love snow and ice, especcialy in WQ 3!!!
The game is so beautiful! It’s coming along so well!
Cool! I can't wait for slough creek
Ah, yes, my weekly dose of happiness 😌
i feel like the ice should be Slippery Because it would be fun to slide on the ice and Entertaining to watch your wolfs slide on the ice :D