Yeah... the more I come to realize that against Greeks, you need to counter with a lot of ranged infantry. Those heroes soak up ranged myth units unless you are deliberately controlling them, and they prevent your melee myth units from doing anything worth mentioning before going straight into bin. I am having most success on rounds where I get up enough ranged infantry to whittle down Greek heroes before they approach me... or try to turtle as hard as I can until more advanced units come online after Heroic Age.
You're probably better off ignoring the heroes when starting the fight. They are much more tankier than they do damage, by the time you can pick off an age 1 greek hero you probably could have picked off 4-5 hoplites instead
Honestly, the longer research time isn't that bad. Obviously, you're going to be building more than one ox cart or longhouse. So you can research multiple techs at once
Not sure when this was played, if this was before or after Beasty was coached by IamMagic. I recommend checking out games from Magic as he's one of the AoM's best players and I see Fitz cast a few Magic games as well.
Dominant Zeus play. It was like watching a bully flip a turtle on its shell lol. You can't just sit there and tank strong hoplites/toxotes/heroes as freyr then. But that eco difference was also huge.
Because he didn't scout that his opponent was doing it. You don't get to see how many time centers your opponents have in this game anymore without scouting
@@GoldenSkeeter how is it relevant about building your own second town and knowing enemy built his second town? If you want to boost your buildir pop and improve your eco you have to get more town center anyway
Have you considered trying out a one-sided casting episode just for fun? For example, you would pick one of the players, turn off the stat breakdown (if possible) and only enable that player's vision and comment from that perspective alone. I think it would be exciting to not know what's going to happen and where, to kind of re-live that player's experience.
In hindsight it's easy to talk, but as soon as zeus started expanding freyr needed to raid hard. It was surprising how little early game raiding and harassment there was.
This game just popped up when i started my console.. i have no idea whats going on😂 is it the same on console as pc? Only 50 bucks for the premium edition...also, i didnt know who was who 😅 how come the guy on the right had such a hard time getting his numbers up?
To be fair to Viper he's really focused on AOE2. He tried AOE4 just to see if it feels good to him but decided AOE2 suits more his playstyle. For AOM, both Beasty and Viper are just testing the waters. Both with different approaches, Beasty from what I'm seeing is just focusing on one civ/god while Viper is testing out different civs/gods.
Honestly ngl BEASTY could be in top 5 AOM pros easy if he decides to play the game seriously THEVIPER still needs a lot of practice and micro management regarding his civs + units strengths ( which he used to do in AOE 2 obviously) I am curious if HERA will also switch so we can see HERA against BEASTY
viper just playing for fun , serious competitiveness belongs to aoe2 and always will Hera may come and give it a try for fun to but nothing will take aoe2 place.
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might wanna put the god names in title like Viper (Freyr) vs Beastyqt (Zeus)
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Yeah... the more I come to realize that against Greeks, you need to counter with a lot of ranged infantry. Those heroes soak up ranged myth units unless you are deliberately controlling them, and they prevent your melee myth units from doing anything worth mentioning before going straight into bin. I am having most success on rounds where I get up enough ranged infantry to whittle down Greek heroes before they approach me... or try to turtle as hard as I can until more advanced units come online after Heroic Age.
You're probably better off ignoring the heroes when starting the fight. They are much more tankier than they do damage, by the time you can pick off an age 1 greek hero you probably could have picked off 4-5 hoplites instead
tbf I saw the live and viper was not even trying, he was super chill learning the new stuff
Typical Viper. Beasty on the other hand, trying hard bro.
@@samuell1894ugh tryhards
Honestly, the longer research time isn't that bad. Obviously, you're going to be building more than one ox cart or longhouse. So you can research multiple techs at once
Not sure when this was played, if this was before or after Beasty was coached by IamMagic.
I recommend checking out games from Magic as he's one of the AoM's best players and I see Fitz cast a few Magic games as well.
14:12 Why's there the annubite death sound as the tower goes down?
Tox-oh-teez
Dominant Zeus play. It was like watching a bully flip a turtle on its shell lol. You can't just sit there and tank strong hoplites/toxotes/heroes as freyr then. But that eco difference was also huge.
yeah why didn't viper get second town center??
Because he didn't scout that his opponent was doing it. You don't get to see how many time centers your opponents have in this game anymore without scouting
@@GoldenSkeeter how is it relevant about building your own second town and knowing enemy built his second town? If you want to boost your buildir pop and improve your eco you have to get more town center anyway
@@Semih-Bilki Because if you go for a second TC without scouting and they pressure off 1 TC, you're going to struggle to survive.
@@IrishRepoMan is it possible to kill enemy that early? You can garrison peasents to tc and towers
U casting viper. Boit casting ur game. This is nais
Viper was experimenting and playing around.
You should consider enabling "Friend/Foe Colors" for casting when players choose shitty colors - its hard to follow in the minimap that cursed gray
Good idea!
They should unlock color selection for matchmade games too
Have you considered trying out a one-sided casting episode just for fun? For example, you would pick one of the players, turn off the stat breakdown (if possible) and only enable that player's vision and comment from that perspective alone. I think it would be exciting to not know what's going to happen and where, to kind of re-live that player's experience.
Viper doesn`t know yet how strong 2. TC`s actually are
Why
Well duh
Red or purple are my go too
Fitzbro, can you share your ingame graphic setting?
Hi. How could I find pro replays to watch please ?
Thanks
In hindsight it's easy to talk, but as soon as zeus started expanding freyr needed to raid hard. It was surprising how little early game raiding and harassment there was.
I do t think it was competitive it was trying out of the new god.
Its just for fun lol
SC2 Dark Grey is still my personal favorite color to play as
You maniac!
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Technically norse military units can count as eco ;)
this game looks so beautiful it's such a pleasure to see it after stormgate being forced on our throats.
This game just popped up when i started my console.. i have no idea whats going on😂 is it the same on console as pc? Only 50 bucks for the premium edition...also, i didnt know who was who 😅 how come the guy on the right had such a hard time getting his numbers up?
They are just new. Welcome!!!
I love this match as I am well aware of both of these players but casting a game in these color schemes should be a crime
I've yet to see Viper beat BeastyQTips in any recent game of AoE4 or AoM
Viper plays for fun at the moment.
I'm not sure if Viper played the previous beta
To be fair to Viper he's really focused on AOE2. He tried AOE4 just to see if it feels good to him but decided AOE2 suits more his playstyle.
For AOM, both Beasty and Viper are just testing the waters. Both with different approaches, Beasty from what I'm seeing is just focusing on one civ/god while Viper is testing out different civs/gods.
Aoe 2 is more important lol. Let beasty play aoe 2 and see how that goes.
The buildings are so white
Honestly ngl BEASTY could be in top 5 AOM pros easy if he decides to play the game seriously
THEVIPER still needs a lot of practice and micro management regarding his civs + units strengths ( which he used to do in AOE 2 obviously)
I am curious if HERA will also switch so we can see HERA against BEASTY
viper just playing for fun , serious competitiveness belongs to aoe2 and always will Hera may come and give it a try for fun to but nothing will take aoe2 place.
@@pkdsince05 aoe2 looks like minecraft
Well if you are honest and not lying… lol THEVIPER is just chilling and learning.
@@RevolutionistThinkerwrong
holy shit, I hope Hera will come to AoM as well
I hope not
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My guy, I beg you, just play some Skyrim and you'll learn how to pronounce all these Norse words.