***NOTE: I tried my best to understand the rules/FAQ and play the game many times before filming so that I made less mistakes, but no playthrough is ever perfect. Especially when you are one of the first to make a video for a new game. :) I have figured out how to create Klingon subtitles and put corrections in there. Enable closed captions to see the the corrections while you watch. Thanks for all your help in the comments pointing out my mistakes! You are all awesome.
You did great imo. It took me several plays to feel like I was getting the rules right and there are still edge cases nearly every game. Still brilliant.
Right now, this is THE best solo playthrough video. I made far more mistakes in mine - you did a brilliant job. But yeah, Klingon subtitles are your friend. Between us, we will get this game :)
Best video I have seen on Cloudspire. You nail almost every rule, great work man! Not an easy task in this beast of a game. My personal preference, I put the hero fortification chips on the bottom since it will be the first helf removed anyway. Not that it matters, just makes it easier for me to remember to remove it.
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching! I like your tip about the order of the chips. My wife likes to do it your way, but for me I like to do it the other way. Just a personal preference, but your way is smarter. :)
I do the same, hero fortification upgrades on the bottom. It helped a lot when I realized that the upgrade chips are just markers. They are not supposed to act the same on Heros and Spires.
Just went back to play some Cloudspire again (the current kickstarter for new content inspired me) and started the solo campaign for the first time. I played it and got soundly destroyed the first play, so I went to BGG to find out if I was alone...I wasn't. LOL - In true CTG fashion, this is VERY difficult. I played it again using the Raze ability to my advantage this time and eeked out a victory! I came upon your video after the desire to see how someone else fared against this beast. You did such a great job! I thought there was no way in hell you were going to win after Wave 2 was over. I was like...he has done NOTHING against that Minaret Spire or any Spire and Darb is about to come unleash some aggression on you. I noticed you had the Flying ability in the market. That happened in my game too and I bought it and applied it to Kram, and that was EVERYTHING for me being able to quickly take down Darb, which REALLY helped me stay alive. You touched on it early and I was screaming YES! YES! BUY THAT DAMN THING! IT'S EVERYTHING! I was wrong, lol. Not only did you win but you managed to get ALL THREE RENOWN. That was very impressive. Your plan came together and it was a real joy to watch. Thanks for that and great work :)
This is fantastic. I've been playing this nonstop since it arrived and am absolutely loving it. 1:05:33 you had the heir spire fire at Kram just after identifying the Battleborn as its target.
Great video! Thank you for making it! At around to 40:00 mark you mentioned you builder and not being able to get him to be adjacent to the spire you wanted to upgrade. The making progress rules would actually allow you to move him up on and then down one, so he would be adjacent and could flip it. Great work here though, and love your presentation.
Great job. I've just done one of these myself yesterday live with people helping me with the rules (much needed) :) Nice camera setup. Where is your overhead camera positioned?
23:07 Should the harriers move more? I had this in my playthrough, and someone said they should move as much as they could, even if the other move is a lateral move.
I am not sure to be honest. I am still trying to figure this out. I have read and reread the AI movement rules a few times and I still struggle with it many playthroughs in. I'm glad to hear you also interpreted the rules as I did, but I think your viewer might be right. Also, another thing that I have a question about in this case, with toxic secretion would the AI still move the extra space even though it is clearly worse for them?
I think: AI minions move as far as they can, but the final hex must be nearer to the fortress. So i think , it moves 1 more and gain damage by the landmark. In case an AI minion can move but ends movement not nearer to the mark (but not further!!!) its an optional movement. But maybe , i am wrong. Very good video
Great effort - this game has some real nuances / chrome that are not always obvious ...but your demo play through is pretty spot on compared to some currently on TH-cam ...it took me ages to nail down the twist and turns of TMB ...and I imagine it will be no different with this game especially as solo rules scenarios each have specialised rules ...but don’t you just love CTG products ?? Now to get as many plays in myself before it may/will get trumped for table space by Tainted Grail’s impending arrival lol... Ric
1:44:47 The aegis can move because of flying on the enemy, it just swaps positions. 1:45:30 Same. It's flying so it can just fly to the gate, exchanging positions with the aegis on the way and damage it. Due to the above, your only option may be to upgrade the air defense spire with 1 extra die on attack. This way you can hit their minion before it attacks your fortress gate. I skipped to the 4th wave, but in general, I think it's very worth it to get the forsaken siege die so you can kill that one before it hits your gates. It would have only given you 2 renown though.
You are correct on the first correction, but not for the second. See the FAQ about flying here: support.chiptheorygames.com/support/solutions/articles/33000244135-can-a-unit-with-the-talent-flying-move-through-other-units- Also, thanks for the strategy tips and for watching the video! :)
@@RobsGamingTable Yes, I noticed that error about the second comment about a few days after I wrote the comment when I ran into the exact rule while playing through a solo scenario, but then forgot to go back and correct this comment (I knew I made it somewhere, but forgot where!). Thanks for correcting my correction! I'm trying to remember what I saw and remember and I skipped around a lot (as you can tell from a previous comment I made). My excuse was, I had already won this scenario 4 times (the first 2 I made rules mistakes so I ended up replaying this scenario a lot). I just want to add that your playthrough has one of the fewest errors and you played it very well vs. a lot of other boardgaming youtubers. Do you have a wargaming background? Color me impressed!
On Wave 3 when Darb hits Kram for 4dmg You counted: 1-armor; 2-fortification upgrade; 1 hp. As I understand The Rulebook the fortification upgrade for spires works for 2dmg to be removed but for units it works as extra hit point so it shoud be counted for 1 dmg and one more health chip shoud be removed :). BTW great movie, game is hard to learn and very hard to master!
Sorry for being very, very late to the party :) I just found your channel and started playing Cloudspire. When it's your turn, you also attack with your spires. I thought that wasn't allowed? Your spires only fire on the AIs or your opponents turn, right? When you attack, only units attack and spires don't count as units. Or did I get thiat wrong?
The "Raze" ability works differently, I think, if the siege tower attack is what you're referring to. I'm in the same boat. Just got my copy today and am devouring all play content I can 😄
@@johnathanrhoades7751 Yes, thank you! I had problems understanding the raze ability. On your turn, you get to use the ability on enemy towers. On their turn, you can't attack towers because you can't use that ability. You just use them to attack as normal. At least that's how I understood it :)
Hi, Its an awesome video! But..., I have a question. Maybe you can help me out. In your Playthrough, i have seen you use your spire fire to damage other spires or at the end at wave4 the fortress gate. Is this legal only in solo mode? On page 19 (rulebook) is written (last sentence „spire fire“) -> „... Spires cannot attack .... , spires or fortress gates.“ Thank you!
Hello, Thanks for watching my video! The ability I am using is called Raze. It's an ability that is on the Brawnen Siege Tower spires. Raze states: "At the start of your turn, this spire may attack a spire or fortress gate within its range. Fortress retaliation removes the bottom upgrade of this spire."
Better late... At 25:00, Kram takes 2 upgrades, so it's the 3rd upgrade that should promote him, if I understand that correctly. Great video, as usual.
Promoting your hero is optional when it's not part of an talent. Sometimes you don't want them to lose the upgrades they have or the talents on their regular side. Thanks for watching!
@@BoardnAlone Ah I see. I misunderstood your original comment. I re-watched from 22:00 and I had 2 upgrades on Kram. 1 Attack and 1 Fortification. Kram then killed another Harrier from the group and forgot to take another upgrade/promote him on his turn. I realize on the next Heirs turn and then decide to promote him since that would have been a 3rd upgrade.
It’s a nice video, but I’m not learning how to play. When it is your turn, what are your options? When you have 5 cp, what made you chose those two vs something else? I really can’t engage in your train of thought.
Hi Jeff, thanks for the feedback. I'm really new to playing board games solo. I usually only play with humans. 😀 I got the same feedback from others and I hopefully do a better job explain my decisions more in my next chapters of the campaign. I think I got caught up in trying to reduce the video length over spending the time to explain things. Thanks again for the helpful feedback.
Nice play through! I noticed that you drew a hero in the market. I pulled the heroes from the market since the Brawnen can only use one hero (Kram) anyway. Any thoughts on how this should be played?
Ah true. I think you should leave them in. I think that it is done on purpose and will test each player on their ability to understand their factions different fortress advancements and their ability to manipulate the market in their favor. For example, see Gateport Level 2 - Enforce Demands on the Brawnen reference sheet. :)
I believe if you are taking 2 damage and you have a Fortification, you only need to remove the Fortification chip. Around 49:30 you also removed a Health chip.
Ah I also missed this. Thanks for clarifying I have to say that it's rules like this that make the game more complicated than it needs to be. Also the fact that armor works on attack but not retaliation (which is thematically off too) . Ah well, still live it.
@1:03:28 you spend 2 source to add a third upgrade to your spire. Shouldn't that cost be 3 source? @1:05:15 you go through the AI spire targeting and conclude that it will fire on your Battleborn - yet you take the damage on your hero (Kram) @1:20:48 you could upgrade Kram again here(?)
If they are controlled by the AI in they do that, but in this scenario they are controlled by me, the player, so I can choose the target. From the Brawnen reference sheet: "At the start of your turn, this spire may attack a spire or fortress gate within its range. Fortress retaliation removes the bottom upgrade of this spire." Thanks for watching!
@40:21 Klingon message regarding Architect. I think as it is an upgraded Architect with a movement of three that you cannot move it in such a way that it will still be adjacent to the Dispatch Platform after it's full movement (and not going back on your own track). An unupgraded Architiect would not have that problem with a movement of 2. Am I correct?
***NOTE: I tried my best to understand the rules/FAQ and play the game many times before filming so that I made less mistakes, but no playthrough is ever perfect. Especially when you are one of the first to make a video for a new game. :) I have figured out how to create Klingon subtitles and put corrections in there. Enable closed captions to see the the corrections while you watch. Thanks for all your help in the comments pointing out my mistakes! You are all awesome.
You did great imo. It took me several plays to feel like I was getting the rules right and there are still edge cases nearly every game. Still brilliant.
Right now, this is THE best solo playthrough video. I made far more mistakes in mine - you did a brilliant job. But yeah, Klingon subtitles are your friend. Between us, we will get this game :)
@@GamingRulesVideos Haha thanks! I guess a game this big/complex needs a community to solve it. :)
Subbed after watching this. These are great to get a feeling for a game. You are very well spoken and thorough. Love it!
Best video I have seen on Cloudspire. You nail almost every rule, great work man! Not an easy task in this beast of a game. My personal preference, I put the hero fortification chips on the bottom since it will be the first helf removed anyway. Not that it matters, just makes it easier for me to remember to remove it.
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching! I like your tip about the order of the chips. My wife likes to do it your way, but for me I like to do it the other way. Just a personal preference, but your way is smarter. :)
I do the same, hero fortification upgrades on the bottom. It helped a lot when I realized that the upgrade chips are just markers. They are not supposed to act the same on Heros and Spires.
Just went back to play some Cloudspire again (the current kickstarter for new content inspired me) and started the solo campaign for the first time. I played it and got soundly destroyed the first play, so I went to BGG to find out if I was alone...I wasn't. LOL - In true CTG fashion, this is VERY difficult. I played it again using the Raze ability to my advantage this time and eeked out a victory!
I came upon your video after the desire to see how someone else fared against this beast. You did such a great job! I thought there was no way in hell you were going to win after Wave 2 was over. I was like...he has done NOTHING against that Minaret Spire or any Spire and Darb is about to come unleash some aggression on you. I noticed you had the Flying ability in the market. That happened in my game too and I bought it and applied it to Kram, and that was EVERYTHING for me being able to quickly take down Darb, which REALLY helped me stay alive. You touched on it early and I was screaming YES! YES! BUY THAT DAMN THING! IT'S EVERYTHING! I was wrong, lol. Not only did you win but you managed to get ALL THREE RENOWN. That was very impressive. Your plan came together and it was a real joy to watch.
Thanks for that and great work :)
At 1:01 in the video, the Brawnen Siege Tower attacks the Elfinkaze. The Elfinkaze has Flying and the Siege Tower should not be able to attack it.
This is fantastic. I've been playing this nonstop since it arrived and am absolutely loving it. 1:05:33 you had the heir spire fire at Kram just after identifying the Battleborn as its target.
Complete brain fart. :) I will add it to the Klingon subtitles. Thanks for pointing this out.
Great video! Thank you for making it! At around to 40:00 mark you mentioned you builder and not being able to get him to be adjacent to the spire you wanted to upgrade. The making progress rules would actually allow you to move him up on and then down one, so he would be adjacent and could flip it. Great work here though, and love your presentation.
Great tip! Thanks for watching! Also, thanks for the kind words. :)
Great job. I've just done one of these myself yesterday live with people helping me with the rules (much needed) :) Nice camera setup. Where is your overhead camera positioned?
Hi, I just have my camera mounted on an overhead lighting tripod. Thanks for watching and I will have to check out your playthrough soon. :)
Rob's Gaming Table any chance we can chat offline about your setup? I’m very impressed and would like to know more :)
23:07 Should the harriers move more? I had this in my playthrough, and someone said they should move as much as they could, even if the other move is a lateral move.
I am not sure to be honest. I am still trying to figure this out. I have read and reread the AI movement rules a few times and I still struggle with it many playthroughs in. I'm glad to hear you also interpreted the rules as I did, but I think your viewer might be right. Also, another thing that I have a question about in this case, with toxic secretion would the AI still move the extra space even though it is clearly worse for them?
@@RobsGamingTable I will ask CTG :)
@@GamingRulesVideos Post the ruling here. I'm curious about this also.
@@tychay they said it would move again. A minion must move as much of it's movement as possible. So in this case, it would take another damage
I think: AI minions move as far as they can, but the final hex must be nearer to the fortress. So i think , it moves 1 more and gain damage by the landmark.
In case an AI minion can move but ends movement not nearer to the mark (but not further!!!) its an optional movement.
But maybe , i am wrong.
Very good video
Very helpful run through, learning a lot! 39:05 could you have moved the elfinkhazie first and caused it to damage it's own spire?
Actually I see now they changed the definition of Roost Roam for this scenario so it only triggers when it can damage a hero.
Great effort - this game has some real nuances / chrome that are not always obvious ...but your demo play through is pretty spot on compared to some currently on TH-cam ...it took me ages to nail down the twist and turns of TMB ...and I imagine it will be no different with this game especially as solo rules scenarios each have specialised rules ...but don’t you just love CTG products ??
Now to get as many plays in myself before it may/will get trumped for table space by Tainted Grail’s impending arrival lol...
Ric
Haha Thanks for watching! Yes I do love CTG products. :) I have not heard of Tainted Grail, but I will look into it.
1:44:47 The aegis can move because of flying on the enemy, it just swaps positions.
1:45:30 Same. It's flying so it can just fly to the gate, exchanging positions with the aegis on the way and damage it.
Due to the above, your only option may be to upgrade the air defense spire with 1 extra die on attack. This way you can hit their minion before it attacks your fortress gate. I skipped to the 4th wave, but in general, I think it's very worth it to get the forsaken siege die so you can kill that one before it hits your gates. It would have only given you 2 renown though.
You are correct on the first correction, but not for the second. See the FAQ about flying here: support.chiptheorygames.com/support/solutions/articles/33000244135-can-a-unit-with-the-talent-flying-move-through-other-units-
Also, thanks for the strategy tips and for watching the video! :)
@@RobsGamingTable Yes, I noticed that error about the second comment about a few days after I wrote the comment when I ran into the exact rule while playing through a solo scenario, but then forgot to go back and correct this comment (I knew I made it somewhere, but forgot where!). Thanks for correcting my correction!
I'm trying to remember what I saw and remember and I skipped around a lot (as you can tell from a previous comment I made). My excuse was, I had already won this scenario 4 times (the first 2 I made rules mistakes so I ended up replaying this scenario a lot).
I just want to add that your playthrough has one of the fewest errors and you played it very well vs. a lot of other boardgaming youtubers. Do you have a wargaming background?
Color me impressed!
how did you build the first seige tower? don't you need to upgrade your fortress to do that?
On Wave 3 when Darb hits Kram for 4dmg You counted: 1-armor; 2-fortification upgrade; 1 hp. As I understand The Rulebook the fortification upgrade for spires works for 2dmg to be removed but for units it works as extra hit point so it shoud be counted for 1 dmg and one more health chip shoud be removed :). BTW great movie, game is hard to learn and very hard to master!
1:14:00 Shouldn't Darb retaliate the dispatch, since it's at range 1?
Thx for a great movie.
Yes you are correct. Brain fart! :)
On Wave 4, Heirs spire could be placed on heirs fortress source wells.
At 1:01:42 you use a siege tower to attack am elfin kaze that has flying. What allowed you do do that?
Sorry for being very, very late to the party :) I just found your channel and started playing Cloudspire. When it's your turn, you also attack with your spires. I thought that wasn't allowed? Your spires only fire on the AIs or your opponents turn, right? When you attack, only units attack and spires don't count as units. Or did I get thiat wrong?
The "Raze" ability works differently, I think, if the siege tower attack is what you're referring to. I'm in the same boat. Just got my copy today and am devouring all play content I can 😄
@@johnathanrhoades7751 Yes, thank you! I had problems understanding the raze ability. On your turn, you get to use the ability on enemy towers. On their turn, you can't attack towers because you can't use that ability. You just use them to attack as normal. At least that's how I understood it :)
Elfinkaze if Flying , you can't kill it by Spire Fire 1:33:00 and early
Hi,
Its an awesome video!
But..., I have a question. Maybe you can help me out. In your Playthrough, i have seen you use your spire fire to damage other spires or at the end at wave4 the fortress gate.
Is this legal only in solo mode?
On page 19 (rulebook) is written (last sentence „spire fire“) -> „... Spires cannot attack .... , spires or fortress gates.“
Thank you!
Hello, Thanks for watching my video! The ability I am using is called Raze. It's an ability that is on the Brawnen Siege Tower spires. Raze states: "At the start of your turn, this spire may attack a spire or fortress gate within its range. Fortress retaliation removes the bottom upgrade of this spire."
Better late... At 25:00, Kram takes 2 upgrades, so it's the 3rd upgrade that should promote him, if I understand that correctly.
Great video, as usual.
Promoting your hero is optional when it's not part of an talent. Sometimes you don't want them to lose the upgrades they have or the talents on their regular side. Thanks for watching!
@@RobsGamingTable but he only had a single upgrade when you promoted Kram. He would have needed 2 before promotion. Am I missing something?
@@BoardnAlone Ah I see. I misunderstood your original comment. I re-watched from 22:00 and I had 2 upgrades on Kram. 1 Attack and 1 Fortification. Kram then killed another Harrier from the group and forgot to take another upgrade/promote him on his turn. I realize on the next Heirs turn and then decide to promote him since that would have been a 3rd upgrade.
@@RobsGamingTable I see that 8 missed the earlier attack upgrade. My mistake. Sorry about that.
@@BoardnAlone No worries. I appreciate the feedback and I am glad we cleared that up. :)
I don't believe that a siege tower can target the Elfinkaze, because it doesn't have Air Defense and Elfinkaze have flying.
You are correct thanks for point that out. :)
Yeah in my playthooughs, I almost always nailed the elfinkaze with splash damage before I upgraded the Dispatch Tower to Siege. :D
Terry Chay is that allowed? does splash affect flying?
@@Sam-vk8xd Yes it does. "Flying" is just an attribute that affects targeting. Retaliation and splash still affect it.
It’s a nice video, but I’m not learning how to play. When it is your turn, what are your options? When you have 5 cp, what made you chose those two vs something else? I really can’t engage in your train of thought.
Hi Jeff, thanks for the feedback. I'm really new to playing board games solo. I usually only play with humans. 😀 I got the same feedback from others and I hopefully do a better job explain my decisions more in my next chapters of the campaign. I think I got caught up in trying to reduce the video length over spending the time to explain things. Thanks again for the helpful feedback.
One more, during Wave 3 when Brawnen lost all their Minions Darb shoud go into Campfire mode ? Shouldn't he?
Hi. At 1.44.35 your correction " The Aegis Ca' move because It can displace the flying unit". Can you please explain why? Thanks a lot
That's part of the flying talent. Other units can displace it.
9:16 somehow your digital rulebook is missing the setup die role that can shuffle the spires.
Do you mean the die that I roll at 2:31 in the video? Thanks for watching! :)
Ahh, thanks for the correction. I missed that.
Where did you get the rulebook pdf and the priority page?
Seems like you never refreshed your market. That should be done every wave, no?
Nice play through! I noticed that you drew a hero in the market. I pulled the heroes from the market since the Brawnen can only use one hero (Kram) anyway. Any thoughts on how this should be played?
Ah true. I think you should leave them in. I think that it is done on purpose and will test each player on their ability to understand their factions different fortress advancements and their ability to manipulate the market in their favor. For example, see Gateport Level 2 - Enforce Demands on the Brawnen reference sheet. :)
Great play through at 1:11 shouldn't the enemy hero attack the spire?
You are correct. At 1:11:51 I forgot to attack with Darb. Thanks for the catch!
I believe if you are taking 2 damage and you have a Fortification, you only need to remove the Fortification chip. Around 49:30 you also removed a Health chip.
That's only for Spires. A fortification chip on Heroes doesn't stop damage in the same way, so it was played correctly.
@@georgea5162 You are absolutely right! I've been playing that wrong. Thanks!
Ah I also missed this. Thanks for clarifying
I have to say that it's rules like this that make the game more complicated than it needs to be. Also the fact that armor works on attack but not retaliation (which is thematically off too) . Ah well, still live it.
@1:03:28 you spend 2 source to add a third upgrade to your spire. Shouldn't that cost be 3 source?
@1:05:15 you go through the AI spire targeting and conclude that it will fire on your Battleborn - yet you take the damage on your hero (Kram)
@1:20:48 you could upgrade Kram again here(?)
Josh Stein yes it should cost three source
You are correct on both fronts. The second point was just a brain fart. :) Thanks for watching and pointing these out!
It is interesting how lots of mistakes you did could help you to achieve 3 reknown points.
raze targets spire with least number of upgrades 58:00
If they are controlled by the AI in they do that, but in this scenario they are controlled by me, the player, so I can choose the target. From the Brawnen reference sheet: "At the start of your turn, this spire may attack a spire or fortress gate within its range. Fortress retaliation removes the bottom upgrade of this spire." Thanks for watching!
I read that spires can't attack other spires.. Page 19. Am I reading it wrong?
The “Raze” talent allows it.
@23:12 Shouldn't the Harrier attack the Landmark minion it can kill (prio #5), instead of attacking the hero it can wound (prio #6)?
@40:21 Klingon message regarding Architect. I think as it is an upgraded Architect with a movement of three that you cannot move it in such a way that it will still be adjacent to the Dispatch Platform after it's full movement (and not going back on your own track). An unupgraded Architiect would not have that problem with a movement of 2. Am I correct?