"Maverick" is like "Future Perfect"-a clear signal of the beginning of the end. Kakao's money isn't yielding good music anymore. "Its chorus is a jarring clamour of grating chanted lyrics yelled over thundering, metallic bass wobbles. What’s worse is the words themselves - “I’m a, I’m a maverick” and “Back in the game, son” - that veer from plain annoying to cringe-worthy. The band have said preparations for this single album were “rushed” and it’s easy to believe that listening to ‘Maverick." - NME
I agree with Twice 100%. They went from a bunch of teens to grown women, they started participating in the creation process and it shows. It's fine if someone vibes with their early stuff more, but they didn't fall off at all.
Yesssss I do miss their “bubble pop” concept but they’re older now & some of their new songs have the cute feel to it soooo irdk why people hate the new songs sm 😭😭
Chung Ha has not fallen off at all - but sadly her company let her (and BVNDIT) down during the first year of the pandemic. It was folly to proceed with Querencia as a double album with four preview singles (and associated music videos) without any sales revenue or concert revenue for an entire year, gambling that Chung Ha would blow up and become an international superstar (which she COULD, but it was the wrong time to bet the company on that). If "Stay Tonight", "Play", "Dream of You", "Bicycle", "Killing Me", etc. all been the cores of a string of mini-albums that came out every 4 months over the last couple of years, there would be NO talk of her falling off, and MNH wouldn't have been such a mess…
I hate mnh so much, bvndit literally has one of the best 4th gen gg Discographies but people are scared to get into them bc their company has let them down so much
Honestly you just said my thoughts out loud if what I think her career and music should have been and released I think she would be more popular then she already is all the songs she released in her first album (with MV) are title track worthy I think they should have done what u said to bad that the company does not think as smart as we think 😊
@@PlanetMinjae I don't hate MNH - they have mostly done right by BVNDIT in the past. When they removed Chung Ha and debuted her as a soloist, delaying BVNDIT's debut by almost two years, the company cancelled the members' trainee debt, which is something most companies wouldn't even consider. While "Hocus Pocus" wasn't the ideal debut song, BVNDIT had a LOT of content in the year they were active. But MNH had super-big ambitions for Chung Ha - they legit thought (and still think) she could be a superstar beyond the bounds of K-pop, an Asian Ariana Grande - and everything they planned in 2020 was aimed towards that. And they very well could be right, given the right circumstances. But when the pandemic hit they should have followed CUBE's example - cancelling (G)I-DLE's full album and restructuring their plans for mini-albums and streaming concerts that kept money coming in. MNH gambled that the pandemic would end quickly, and lost. The company burned through all their cash (music videos are expensive), had very little revenue (none of Chung Ha's pre-release singles were physical releases, and they did no online concerts for her), and essentially had to lay off BVNDIT (and probably a lot of staff) in hopes of getting new funding or selling the company. Seungeun went on GP999 because she thought MNH and BVNDIT were dead. MNH isn't a terrible company the way that CUBE is, but their top management made a set of REALLY bad decisions in 2020 that set back Chung Ha a long way and nearly crushed BVNDIT. I just hope that things have really turned around and that both artists can get their careers back on track.
Itzy definitely have not fallen off, Crazy in Love was their best selling album ever, I think it sold almost 2x as much as Guess Who. I totally agree about the bsides too! Guess Who was a no skip album for me bc I love Mafia! And CIL had like 2/10 skips. But in their previous albums bsides I feel like they were still finding their sound! If I could only keep 1 year of Itzy’s music, it would totally be the 2021 music!
Itzy did not fall off. I totally agree that Itzy's bsides have improved a lot, but I do think the titles need more public recognition. Dalla Dalla was such a huge hit that jyp couldn't keep up with it, therefore Itzy's future titles were considered 'low quality' by knetz. But I don't think so, they've been doing a great job after debut and Mitm&Loco were bops after bops. Can't wait for Checkmate, I can bet it's going to be a bop already
@@akuhappy3246 Loco is actually what made me a Midzy. It's fun, it's memorable, it's colorful, the chorus is fire and the dance break is one of the coolest I've seen from 4th Gen. Loco doesn't feel like a filler era, it looks and sounds amazing and that's coming from someone who quite disliked Itzy at the start
@@thuydungie i don't know. I still don't like loco. So underwhelming for Itzy standard title track production. Personal taste maybe. Hope next project like mix and max better than loco
I know tomboy might not be your type of song, but it is technically their strongest comeback : Got their 8th win after 2 months of inactivity Got 167 perfect all kills for this song (They never scored a pak before) Reached 100M views in a month Regained their domestic blast in popularity
Tomboy have 500k stream daily on Spotify and TH-cam after 3 months. Their previous songs drop below 500k after a week. Tomboy has big chance to win soty on melon music award
@@lavieenrose7618 They almost scored a PAK with HWAA...#1 on Genie and Bugs and steadily rising to the top of melon but things happened...the scandals made the fans and gp abandon the song altogether
Tomboy is great though. One of their best songs. The only thing I dislike about this comeback is the lack of Soojin, but that's not the girls' fault, that's on Cube...
AGREE SO HARD FOR ITZY! I see so many midzy’s complain but honestly? MITM and Loco and those albums are the reason why I started stanning ITZY again. Their b sides and music have substantially improved. People are just pressed they moved on from the LY concept, but y’all know it would have aged poorly if they did another one. You can’t beat Wannabe… and you also can’t keep doing the same concept and hope people don’t notice (unless you’re a certain group…)
Yes MITM was the first Itzy song I heard and that’s i became a midzy! loco was really fun too I think they were just trying different styles but ppl see it as a flop or downhill
It's actually a good thing for ITZY to try different concepts which can prove their versatility. It would be boring if a certain group makes the same concept all over again. I don't think ITZY still finding their music, coz they actually don't have one. The company wants tryna do for ITZY is that they don't care about the genre or concept as long as they can create bops and hella catchy music. ITZY can slay all types of genres and concepts, it's their vibe that sticks out NOT THE CONCEPT.periodt
@@akuhappy3246 i guess agree to disagree? I really liked it. I can understand why people were a bit confused by it, but I thought it was catchy. And even tho I like MITM, Loco definitely sounds more ITZY then MITM. It blends old styles and new sounds together and I like it. I respect your opinion tho
(G)I-DLE never fell off. They always make really good comebacks since Latata. With each comeback they were growing in popularity too. Since the I Trust EP I also never had more than 1 skip for each album/EP. Tomboy was objectively their best comeback. It is near 3 months old still in Top 5 of most Korean charts. Also they got a win for tomboy 2 and a half months after it´s release. Not to mention it is their first comeback after the scandal, member loss and an over year long hiatus. They are definitely one of the most talented - and I hope influential - groups out there. I love the fact they - mostly Soyeon, write the songs themselves. Their music is unique meaning it breaks out of the standard kpop-concept formula. The thing is that many people in the internet give them hate for some reason. I would really like to know why since it sometimes seems to go beyond not liking their music.
itzy has never fallen off since their music keep getting better by every comeback. Like literally the "guess who" mini album was the best in my opinion. Btw love your videos
I agree with the Itzy one. They have NOT fallen off. MITM isn’t my fav title from them but that albums bsides? Bop after bop. I’ve heard a lot of people saying that Loco was out of character for them and nothing like them, while I for one think that Loco could not be more on brand. The flashy colors, the funky outfits, the fast paced choreo, the aggressive upbeat song, that’s purely Itzy, at least for me. Loco was an a excellent comeback and I personally love it and MITM too.
is Twice's BEST B-SIDES album! It's literally their only album I listen to ENTIRELY on repeat, it is true PERFECTION!!! I'm in love with every single b-sides 🤩 The raps, the vocals, the lyrics, they're real QUEENS in this one!
TheBoyz could never fell off. They literally a bunch of visuals and all rounder and their music are genuinely really good, right now they are the most popular 4th gen boygroup in korea and they are thriving.
You're definitely trueee. They're well experienced,multi-talented,top visuals of 4th gen. Their comeback concepts are hella hawtt and fascinating.BTW the Boyz is my ult group.
I'm surprised to see that Seventeen isn't here considering EVERYONE and their grandma and grandpa and pet hates their newer releases while saying that they have "fallen victim to Hybe's sh*tty production and autotune usage" 💀
FRRR LIKE ?"?_?_? Their newer releases are bangers. And like if kpop groups release experimental music y'all say their old stuff was better but back then y'all were still shitting on it like ?!? Kpop stans will never be satisfied
Naah just ready to love, rock with you and hot was a banger. And their album sales keeps rising with each comeback so they’re rising rather than falling
HELL YES like i don't give a damn what people say about their last couple projects because let's be honest, the level of svt's popularity is rising really fast by each day, 'face the sun' has literally received a massive commercial success and it is their best selling album to date and i am 100% sure that their fanbase will go on to be even LARGER than life when they'll start their 'be the sun' tour, knowing that the boys will finally see carats from other countries for the first time in two years.
I love Twice’s new releases. My mind is blown that people would think their new music isn’t as good. Their b-sides are so good now and I love all the title tracks post-Fancy. The only title tracks I didn’t love on first listen were More & More and Alcohol-Free, but I’m obsessed with Alcohol-Free now and tbh, if I was ranking Twice’s title tracks they would be above the likes of Cheer Up and TT for me… Also, Itzy’s Not Shy is a bop and my favorite title track.
it genuinely shocks me everytime someone claims twice or tbz fell off, i feel like many people have been going around saying groups “fell off” when it’s just them losing interest (which is totally okay!)
I feel like twice's music is getting better and better over the years !! I used not to listen to them at all back in 2018 but now I always check out their comebacks because their music became so good and it fits my taste more :)
Oh my god yes I agree with you on THE BOYZ. Like I always have that feeling that those people who say TBZ has fallen off just doesnt like them as a group because theyre that threatened. Literally the highest 4th gen boy group on brand reputations not leaving for 2 years now. The blueprint for more performance-heavy stages for not just RTK and Kingdom but also for year-end award shows. Theyre having a steady rise. Also I agree with the songs, they sound expensive like its made from the Big 3, but if you see the composers and producers, theyre literally the people behind some of the songs of mostly SM groups.
@@nafitaffi agree Twice Formula of love is the best example the title tracks arent everyones cup of tea but the bsides were soo good but yk most of the people forget about bsides and listen to the title track and proceeds to bash the whole album!!
I find people who think ITZY has fallen off and say loco is terrible and stuff, but then they magically forget that loco spent two weeks on billboard hot 100 and ranked 21 or something. Also, I personally never saw anyone hating on MITM or Not shy, I just see them praising their choreography, rap and vocals. Also I keep on seeing people say things like: “Chaeryeong’s ‘ITZYY’ in Not shy is so iconic” or “ MITM is whole mood, it’s so iconic!” There was also times on tiktok, back in 2021, about three months after MITM was released, I saw TikToks saying “In the Morning saved ITZY.” Itzy honestly is my #1 K-pop group, and no matter what people say, I will keep listening to them and saying they’re iconic. Just because 10 thousand people say that they fell off after Not shy, the other 7 million, I included are still listening to them, and are expecting their next comeback “CHECKMATE”.
you must've been living under a rock during mitm era if ur saying u didnt see anyone hating on it😭everywhere u looked, ppl were bashing on it for ages - until they came to their senses and realised its a bop
They never ranked on Bilboard Hot 100 as far as I remember If I'm not wrong the only female kpop artists that ever charted on Bilboard Hot 100 are: CL Wonder Girls BLACKPINK Rosé Lisa Twice
@@RunnerForImSol I think you are mistaking the charts. Bilboard Hot 100 is a totally different chart than the one where IVE ranked 15. They ranked 15 on Bilboard Global 200 and not Bilboard Hot 100
Also people really expect Itzy to keep the Teen Crush concept when they’re all in their 20s except Yuna… of course their sound and image is going to mature in 3+ years of being a group?
I am personally an early twice bside supremist, but even as someone who adores all their earlier work, I can agree with you that since they started partaking in their music more, the variety and consistent quality has improved heaps! twice aged out of cute concepts beautifully, and are unafraid to keep growing and developing together as a woman-group.
Itzy in my opinion has become even better, even if only slightly (because they were already so good at the beginning, but I think they have gotten from 99/100 to 100/100). I don't even stan them because I prefer a bit older groups in age but honestly their last comeback was my favorite era after Icy and they are one of the quintessential idol groups imho. With catchy songs, performance quality, fair amount of iconic moves/choreographies and title tracks so widely known (and b-sides like Shoot semi-viral). I always know I'll enjoy an Itzy comeback. Twice is THE kpop girl group in my opinion out of the currently active ones. Enough said I think. Performances, discography, the perfect line up, I am glad I got to anticipate and live many of their comebacks. Chungha is maybe my favorite soloist. I love Roller Coaster, Querencia album and her.
I've only started stanning The Boyz very recently and ... I think they might have the best boy group discography out there. (G)I-DLE have yet to put a foot wrong for me.
i think tomboy was okay personally, but overall it was an amazing comeback for gidle- its not my favorite but seeing all their wins even after going on hiatus + losing soojin and seeing them performing makes me so happy,,,, it was the comeback they needed tbh
okay I have THOUGHTS on this, I just recently decided to listen to twice’s (and multiple other groups) full discography and I can fully agree, formula of love is seriously top tier, they only have gotten better I can honestly say I wouldn’t have stanned them if I hadn’t found them prior to fancy, and I only decided to fully stan them after hearing the full progression. twice has no fallen off and honestly I think theyve just gotten started
I’m way older than 24 and Twice woke me up to Kpop this year. Then I discovered Mamamoo. ITZY, Red Velvet, Aespa, Iz-one etc. Amazing artistry and such nice wholesome women.
actually from what i observed they call a group that "fell off" because the number of views are decreasing compared to the first one and its impact to the public is not what they have expected. esp in itzy but i am a midzy and no one can call itzy a "fell off" group if their title track LOCO is still going on top of charts. i agree with the speaker, the quality of the songs are getting better.
couldn't agree more in regards to twice! their new albums (as a whole) are so much stronger than their past music, and I love that they're experimenting more with different concepts and sounds. it's quite sad that people judge them based on face value, rather than exploring further than their title tracks :(
Agree with twice!💗 they didn't fall of especially they just finish their US tours and all sold out plus their songs grown much. I just hope they gonna tour in asia next ^^ 💎
The boyz never fell off lol. what i really like about the boyz is that they try every genre and all of that suits them. All of their songs are bop and i always try to listen first then watch the music video, for me to appreciate it more.
Twice may had given some not so iconic TT like scientist and M&M but they had also given one of the most iconic kpop songs of all time Fancy Feelspecial ICSM alcohol free and the feels.
Blackpink has become more of a brand. They have songs that no other group does. They have their own vibe, that no group can copy. But I would disagree that THE ALBUM is their best worked I always find myself going back to SQUARE UP. Boombaya,whistle, as if it's your last, dduddudu.
A lot of kpopies have been saying that aespa has fallen off since black mamba i strongily disagree like didnt you listen to the Savage mini album that was a whole work of art like Ill make you cry , Yeppi Yeppi , Iconic , Lucid Dream those were and still are the best besides of 2021 and they just dropped a pre realese track Illusion for there new mini album Girls coming in July witch i fear toped half of the Savage album in my books Aespa are continuing to get better and better over time so no they didnt fall off in my opinion
also i don't understand why people are saying that they fell off after their debut when their title tracks went on to become literally thee PHENOMENAL SENSATIONS and classics, their promotion strategy has gotten much better since this year and their 2nd mini-album which is out on july 8 has sold a HUGE amount of copies (1 million) comparing to +400k copies that 'savage' has surpassed. this is THE POWER.
aespa's discography is restoring my faith in kpop music. i go through periods where i get burnt out on kpop and nothing sounds good and i wonder why none of the music i used to love slaps anymore, but aespa's songs never lose their charm. yeppi yeppi was my favorite song last year by a landslide
It's my personal opinion but I think ateez never fell off too, the growth they have had in every aspect since debut is incredibleee tbh!! ✨ I don't expect a grp to always release good music ,ofc there are bad 'eras' too but I think for me the good always outweighs the bad. Also agreed with the itzy one 100%.
i can agree that they didn't fell off but tbh KQ, their company is the one that is in my opinion mid promotion-wise, like although their international fanbase has grown a little bit, ESPECIALLY in the beginning of this year because of the tour and performing in front of bigger crowds the *problem* is that their korean fanbase is SMALLER and their promotions in south korea don't look like what people would expect, i mean they've never appeared on major korean variety shows (ex. knowing bros) that can lead to having a great domestical exposure and they rarely, i mean not that much, get music show wins because of poor digitals (like they haven't won on any of 4 MOST MAJOR music shows [mcd, mubank, mucore, inkigayo] since their first ever win with "wave" on mcd), which is really confusing. like i say, ateez might not fell off but their company needs to do just BETTER.
Any artist from any field, not just in kpop or even music in general, have grown and improved over the years, and deviating from their original concept should not be frowned upon. While I understand that groups' styles may develop into something that some fans may no longer like or appreciate, it does not mean that it is inherently a bad thing, as the term "falling off" suggests. By nature, art evolves, and everyone, artists and normal people alike, should be free to evolve and mature without stigma. All of these groups are talented, and they work very hard, and they all deserve to grow in their expression of their art.
omg wr have the same taste. i think HYLT is their best song and love IC but lovesick girls wasnt really my vibe or more like i wanted more of the signature style of BP that no other group can do. but overall its impossible to say BP have fallen off bcz the album was very diverse regardeless of the small amount of songs and also they are blackpink after all lol.
I love the boyz so much but I do love their older music more because it's just my style and why I even got into them in the first place. But just because their music is different doesn't mean they fell off. If anything they got way more popular lol
Well, I totally agree with The Boyz, their b-sides definitely improve a lot and their title tracks are always superb that I ended up stanning them in the first 10-20 seconds of their song, so yeah I don't think they have "fell off". The Boyz aside, this channel insanely spit facts and I'm here for it. For some, it may become a hard-to-swallow pill, but let's face it, what this channel said is true for every group :))).
In summary: a lot of times, people who say most artists fell off probably don't actually follow the music of said artist. One group that I also occasionally listen people saying "fell off" is Pentagon after Dawn left. For me, this makes zero sense. I would take literally any title track they released after becoming OT9 over their older songs. Also the albums, their b-sides are becoming constantly better, In:vite U is hands down one of my favorite EPs this year. Whoever don't know their discography, please do yourselves a favour and go listen to One Shot, The Game and Bad from their most recent album 🙏
THE BOYZ are my number one since the beginning of Legendary Kingdom! There performances and charisma are iconic, plus they just seem so funny and nice. Disagree about Lovesick Girls, that is my number one Blackpink track.
crazy in love is the 3rd longest charting album on billboard by a kpop girl group, longest by a 4th gen girl group, it sold over 500,000 physical copies, if that’s falling off then i’m ok with it
People say that Itzy, Loona and Twice fell off because they like their older music much better. But, I like their new music a lot, sometimes more than the old music. To me they're getting better.
i genuinely agree with what you said about tbz, their vocals and visuals are always on point. i also think alot of ppl say they're fall off bc they aren't /that/ popular internationally, but they still very popular in SK even though they're from a small company*.
twice: agree with you, in terms of bsides they keep getting better, title tracks tho… g idle: their tts have always been a hit or miss tbh blackpink: i think their tts have been getting worse tbh, their earlier songs are much better chungha: killing me was… a choice definitely! but every artist has to have a mid comeback so it’s ok! querencia is a masterpiece idc!! she’s gonna come back with another banger i trust her itzy: same as g idle
bc a lot of people didnt like scientist doenst mean their title tracks are getting worse, im agree with myspace🌌☁ the feels was a hit. In fact, in the 4th world tour you can hear almost everyone shouting, screaming and singing when twice performs scientist, so once like it but the casual listeners probably not and thats okay EDIT: also not really related but at the same time yes lol, if the MV doesnt have many views doesnt mean it fell off, its bad or something, for example with twice again, scientist doesnt have a lot of views compared to the feels but formula of love its their best selling album and imo one of the best albums by them, also is going to be their most streamed on spotify very soon
ITZY has never fell off and will never be. They have charted months on billboard, doing records that no other GG did and ur still calling them fell off? Sis bye. Their bsides always been sooo good for me but we can see a huge improvement in GUESS WHO& CIL albums. Their bsides are top tier and idc about what anyone says. BTW: GAS ME UP is GOLD i respectfully disagree about what u said😭
Nah twice and itzy have hella fans twice out here selling hella tickets for their world tour and I’m sure itzy will too. People forget bsides exist too. like you can also not like any of their music at all but way too many people still do, just because they “fell off” for you doesn’t mean they actually did lol.
i personally really loved lisa's solo and definitely one of my faves ever, but i didn't like rose 's which is understandable as itis their solo work eah one has a differeent style and lisa seems closest to the BP one that i love. but the whole point is that they're newly debuted soloist and still figuring out their sound so you can't really compare it with the group music as it would make no sense
Itzy has one of the strongest discography in kpop. Like wtf they just kept on getting better and better as time went on. Loco and mitm are definitely my favorite eras and they’re b-sides are criminally underrated. Can’t believe people would say they’re falling off when it’s literally the opposite, they’re definitely one of the biggest fourth gen groups and for sure the biggest female girl group atm. they also appreciate they’re fans so much in every video they’re mentioning midzys and the members have worked so hard producing so much content in between comebacks. Itzy’s effort and dedication needs to be more widely recognized istg!
Chung Ha falling off when she released a whole ass AOTY in 2021. Is Bicycle the best title track? No. But it’s still a bop and the album is phenomenal.
Personally I would add Treasure, I just want them to release more songs especially since there’s SO MUCH TALENT IN THE GROUP ITS CRAZY like even their self composed songs are SO good and I literally listen to them even though they’re incomplete and literally 30 secs long 💀💀
I think the entire YG is trying to find a new fresh sound, which is why Yedam decided to take a hiatus, Teddy trying to find a new sound for Blackpink after getting criticism, G-Dragon same thing and lastly iKON DK and Bobby are probably working hard to create hit songs after B.I left the company.
@@ekuniverse1 with Yedam I think it has to do with his studies because some of the Treasure members are in college and idk what they’re all studying but if Yedam is studying music then maybe it’s exam season or something idk it’s just a prediction.
I personally LOVE old G-Idle releases way better than the latest one but it's just my opinion. I saw the huge hype over tomboy and I'm truly happy for them, just not my taste but no hate ofc.
Not liking a groups new title song does not mean that the group has fallen off. However, if a lot of people do not like a groups title track, and then you see their low group rankings, and their title tracks as of the last few comebacks are not charting well- then yes, the group has fallen off. The only groups here that I can say have not fallen off are BLACKPINK and TWICE because everyone still talks about them constantly and they still chart regardless of not as good title tracks. I could also say that ITZY and Chungha also haven't fallen off either because they are both still loved by fans and everyone always tunes into their comebacks.
@@CJDM310 yes the song has gotten a lot of love in South Korea, but it is not loved by everyone it is split. I don't personally like the song because of the guitar sample and the chorus. So the song is more of a miss than a hit for me.
Imagine saying that BP fell off lmaoo😭😭. Didn't know this was a thing. I always thought that "fell off" meant that x idol lost popularity or that they kinda lost their status as one of the big competitions. What does "fell off" exactly means?🤔
WHO TF THOUGHT THE BOYZ WAS FALLING OFF??!??!?! LMAOO I stan SKZ and even I CAN acknowledge that they're doing amazing haters need to chill smh and get a life
I agree with twice their bsides have gotten soooo better but with itzy i loved their bsides before not shy i don't think downloaded one bside since wannabe era
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"Maverick" is like "Future Perfect"-a clear signal of the beginning of the end. Kakao's money isn't yielding good music anymore.
"Its chorus is a jarring clamour of grating chanted lyrics yelled over thundering, metallic bass wobbles. What’s worse is the words themselves - “I’m a, I’m a maverick” and “Back in the game, son” - that veer from plain annoying to cringe-worthy. The band have said preparations for this single album were “rushed” and it’s easy to believe that listening to ‘Maverick." - NME
I agree with Twice 100%. They went from a bunch of teens to grown women, they started participating in the creation process and it shows. It's fine if someone vibes with their early stuff more, but they didn't fall off at all.
Their evolution was the best
@@lunarialoonatic FR
Yesssss I do miss their “bubble pop” concept but they’re older now & some of their new songs have the cute feel to it soooo irdk why people hate the new songs sm 😭😭
@@lunarialoonatic Yess, I'm not a once, but their evolution is the gold standard tbh
@@cat86581 why gold standard?
Chung Ha has not fallen off at all - but sadly her company let her (and BVNDIT) down during the first year of the pandemic. It was folly to proceed with Querencia as a double album with four preview singles (and associated music videos) without any sales revenue or concert revenue for an entire year, gambling that Chung Ha would blow up and become an international superstar (which she COULD, but it was the wrong time to bet the company on that). If "Stay Tonight", "Play", "Dream of You", "Bicycle", "Killing Me", etc. all been the cores of a string of mini-albums that came out every 4 months over the last couple of years, there would be NO talk of her falling off, and MNH wouldn't have been such a mess…
I hate mnh so much, bvndit literally has one of the best 4th gen gg Discographies but people are scared to get into them bc their company has let them down so much
Honestly you just said my thoughts out loud if what I think her career and music should have been and released I think she would be more popular then she already is all the songs she released in her first album (with MV) are title track worthy I think they should have done what u said to bad that the company does not think as smart as we think 😊
Totally agree
@@PlanetMinjae I don't hate MNH - they have mostly done right by BVNDIT in the past. When they removed Chung Ha and debuted her as a soloist, delaying BVNDIT's debut by almost two years, the company cancelled the members' trainee debt, which is something most companies wouldn't even consider. While "Hocus Pocus" wasn't the ideal debut song, BVNDIT had a LOT of content in the year they were active. But MNH had super-big ambitions for Chung Ha - they legit thought (and still think) she could be a superstar beyond the bounds of K-pop, an Asian Ariana Grande - and everything they planned in 2020 was aimed towards that. And they very well could be right, given the right circumstances. But when the pandemic hit they should have followed CUBE's example - cancelling (G)I-DLE's full album and restructuring their plans for mini-albums and streaming concerts that kept money coming in. MNH gambled that the pandemic would end quickly, and lost. The company burned through all their cash (music videos are expensive), had very little revenue (none of Chung Ha's pre-release singles were physical releases, and they did no online concerts for her), and essentially had to lay off BVNDIT (and probably a lot of staff) in hopes of getting new funding or selling the company. Seungeun went on GP999 because she thought MNH and BVNDIT were dead.
MNH isn't a terrible company the way that CUBE is, but their top management made a set of REALLY bad decisions in 2020 that set back Chung Ha a long way and nearly crushed BVNDIT. I just hope that things have really turned around and that both artists can get their careers back on track.
@@Vektorix28205 wow, someone that understands the music business :)
Itzy definitely have not fallen off, Crazy in Love was their best selling album ever, I think it sold almost 2x as much as Guess Who. I totally agree about the bsides too! Guess Who was a no skip album for me bc I love Mafia! And CIL had like 2/10 skips. But in their previous albums bsides I feel like they were still finding their sound! If I could only keep 1 year of Itzy’s music, it would totally be the 2021 music!
Itzy did not fall off. I totally agree that Itzy's bsides have improved a lot, but I do think the titles need more public recognition. Dalla Dalla was such a huge hit that jyp couldn't keep up with it, therefore Itzy's future titles were considered 'low quality' by knetz. But I don't think so, they've been doing a great job after debut and Mitm&Loco were bops after bops. Can't wait for Checkmate, I can bet it's going to be a bop already
Hmm... Loco was not good for a title track. They can do much better than that. But maybe it just a filler era
@@akuhappy3246 Loco is actually what made me a Midzy. It's fun, it's memorable, it's colorful, the chorus is fire and the dance break is one of the coolest I've seen from 4th Gen. Loco doesn't feel like a filler era, it looks and sounds amazing and that's coming from someone who quite disliked Itzy at the start
@@thuydungie i don't know. I still don't like loco. So underwhelming for Itzy standard title track production. Personal taste maybe. Hope next project like mix and max better than loco
@@akuhappy3246 loco is their best song in my opinion
@@akuhappy3246
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No, Loco is an amazing song.
I know tomboy might not be your type of song, but it is technically their strongest comeback :
Got their 8th win after 2 months of inactivity
Got 167 perfect all kills for this song
(They never scored a pak before)
Reached 100M views in a month
Regained their domestic blast in popularity
Tomboy have 500k stream daily on Spotify and TH-cam after 3 months. Their previous songs drop below 500k after a week.
Tomboy has big chance to win soty on melon music award
Didn't they score a pak with Hwaa?
@@lavieenrose7618 i dont think so but they got 10+ music show wins with it
@@lavieenrose7618 They almost scored a PAK with HWAA...#1 on Genie and Bugs and steadily rising to the top of melon but things happened...the scandals made the fans and gp abandon the song altogether
Tomboy is great though. One of their best songs. The only thing I dislike about this comeback is the lack of Soojin, but that's not the girls' fault, that's on Cube...
AGREE SO HARD FOR ITZY! I see so many midzy’s complain but honestly? MITM and Loco and those albums are the reason why I started stanning ITZY again. Their b sides and music have substantially improved. People are just pressed they moved on from the LY concept, but y’all know it would have aged poorly if they did another one. You can’t beat Wannabe… and you also can’t keep doing the same concept and hope people don’t notice (unless you’re a certain group…)
It just loco is underwhelming as a title track for rising star like itzy. they can do much better than loco.
Loco was top 3 if not 2 best Itzy song there was nothing i could've taken out or added to that song it was just perfect
Yes MITM was the first Itzy song I heard and that’s i became a midzy! loco was really fun too I think they were just trying different styles but ppl see it as a flop or downhill
It's actually a good thing for ITZY to try different concepts which can prove their versatility. It would be boring if a certain group makes the same concept all over again. I don't think ITZY still finding their music, coz they actually don't have one. The company wants tryna do for ITZY is that they don't care about the genre or concept as long as they can create bops and hella catchy music. ITZY can slay all types of genres and concepts, it's their vibe that sticks out NOT THE CONCEPT.periodt
@@akuhappy3246 i guess agree to disagree? I really liked it. I can understand why people were a bit confused by it, but I thought it was catchy. And even tho I like MITM, Loco definitely sounds more ITZY then MITM. It blends old styles and new sounds together and I like it. I respect your opinion tho
(G)I-DLE never fell off. They always make really good comebacks since Latata. With each comeback they were growing in popularity too. Since the I Trust EP I also never had more than 1 skip for each album/EP.
Tomboy was objectively their best comeback. It is near 3 months old still in Top 5 of most Korean charts. Also they got a win for tomboy 2 and a half months after it´s release. Not to mention it is their first comeback after the scandal, member loss and an over year long hiatus.
They are definitely one of the most talented - and I hope influential - groups out there. I love the fact they - mostly Soyeon, write the songs themselves. Their music is unique meaning it breaks out of the standard kpop-concept formula.
The thing is that many people in the internet give them hate for some reason. I would really like to know why since it sometimes seems to go beyond not liking their music.
itzy has never fallen off since their music keep getting better by every comeback. Like literally the "guess who" mini album was the best in my opinion. Btw love your videos
yessss
Factssss
their music has gotten worse but the b sides are decent
@@theestclair for you
@@tfbruh2873 for a lot of people actually
I agree with the Itzy one. They have NOT fallen off. MITM isn’t my fav title from them but that albums bsides? Bop after bop. I’ve heard a lot of people saying that Loco was out of character for them and nothing like them, while I for one think that Loco could not be more on brand. The flashy colors, the funky outfits, the fast paced choreo, the aggressive upbeat song, that’s purely Itzy, at least for me. Loco was an a excellent comeback and I personally love it and MITM too.
Loco is literally their best title track 🤷🏻♀️
the mv literally reminded me of dalla dalla, itzy is thriving and totally not felling off
is Twice's BEST B-SIDES album! It's literally their only album I listen to ENTIRELY on repeat, it is true PERFECTION!!! I'm in love with every single b-sides 🤩 The raps, the vocals, the lyrics, they're real QUEENS in this one!
TheBoyz could never fell off. They literally a bunch of visuals and all rounder and their music are genuinely really good, right now they are the most popular 4th gen boygroup in korea and they are thriving.
You're definitely trueee. They're well experienced,multi-talented,top visuals of 4th gen. Their comeback concepts are hella hawtt and fascinating.BTW the Boyz is my ult group.
I'm surprised to see that Seventeen isn't here considering EVERYONE and their grandma and grandpa and pet hates their newer releases while saying that they have "fallen victim to Hybe's sh*tty production and autotune usage" 💀
FRRR LIKE ?"?_?_? Their newer releases are bangers. And like if kpop groups release experimental music y'all say their old stuff was better but back then y'all were still shitting on it like ?!? Kpop stans will never be satisfied
Naah just ready to love, rock with you and hot was a banger. And their album sales keeps rising with each comeback so they’re rising rather than falling
100% agree with you but I mean to each their own
HELL YES like i don't give a damn what people say about their last couple projects because let's be honest, the level of svt's popularity is rising really fast by each day, 'face the sun' has literally received a massive commercial success and it is their best selling album to date and i am 100% sure that their fanbase will go on to be even LARGER than life when they'll start their 'be the sun' tour, knowing that the boys will finally see carats from other countries for the first time in two years.
The thing about svt is they habe different vibes in mv production and title track after they got new name labels. But they still got it
twice did NOT fall off bestie... the feels is iconic
That's what this video says Groups that's did Never Fall off till date
I love Twice’s new releases. My mind is blown that people would think their new music isn’t as good. Their b-sides are so good now and I love all the title tracks post-Fancy. The only title tracks I didn’t love on first listen were More & More and Alcohol-Free, but I’m obsessed with Alcohol-Free now and tbh, if I was ranking Twice’s title tracks they would be above the likes of Cheer Up and TT for me…
Also, Itzy’s Not Shy is a bop and my favorite title track.
it genuinely shocks me everytime someone claims twice or tbz fell off, i feel like many people have been going around saying groups “fell off” when it’s just them losing interest (which is totally okay!)
I don't even stan the boyz but I have to admit that they have good music and I wait for their comebacks
STAN THEM YOU'LL NEVER REGRET
Not to mention imo they’re really underrated.
@@GenF91 yup 🥺
I feel like twice's music is getting better and better over the years !! I used not to listen to them at all back in 2018 but now I always check out their comebacks because their music became so good and it fits my taste more :)
This Itzy Comeback is going to be my first ever! ✨ (im so excited aahhhhh)
Omg welcome 😭 (im getting kinda emotional with ur comment bcz i used to be really excited for not shy which is my first comeback)
AHHH a new midzy omg 😭 welcome legend 👌🏼
welcome to the midzyland 💗
Oh my god yes I agree with you on THE BOYZ. Like I always have that feeling that those people who say TBZ has fallen off just doesnt like them as a group because theyre that threatened. Literally the highest 4th gen boy group on brand reputations not leaving for 2 years now. The blueprint for more performance-heavy stages for not just RTK and Kingdom but also for year-end award shows. Theyre having a steady rise. Also I agree with the songs, they sound expensive like its made from the Big 3, but if you see the composers and producers, theyre literally the people behind some of the songs of mostly SM groups.
i totally agree with The Boyz ❤️🔥🤟🏻 their concepts are always top tier!!!!
Yupp ❤️🥺
I'm 100% sure that 90% of Kpop fans listen only to title tracks
and 50% only listen to one or two groups
That makes the cry for more blackpink music insanely pointless
@@nafitaffi agree Twice Formula of love is the best example the title tracks arent everyones cup of tea but the bsides were soo good but yk most of the people forget about bsides and listen to the title track and proceeds to bash the whole album!!
This comment.... they’ll listen to just the title tracks and then conclude
I find people who think ITZY has fallen off and say loco is terrible and stuff, but then they magically forget that loco spent two weeks on billboard hot 100 and ranked 21 or something. Also, I personally never saw anyone hating on MITM or Not shy, I just see them praising their choreography, rap and vocals. Also I keep on seeing people say things like:
“Chaeryeong’s ‘ITZYY’ in Not shy is so iconic” or “ MITM is whole mood, it’s so iconic!”
There was also times on tiktok, back in 2021, about three months after MITM was released, I saw TikToks saying “In the Morning saved ITZY.”
Itzy honestly is my #1 K-pop group, and no matter what people say, I will keep listening to them and saying they’re iconic. Just because 10 thousand people say that they fell off after Not shy, the other 7 million, I included are still listening to them, and are expecting their next comeback “CHECKMATE”.
you must've been living under a rock during mitm era if ur saying u didnt see anyone hating on it😭everywhere u looked, ppl were bashing on it for ages - until they came to their senses and realised its a bop
@@niniwatches yuh, I sorta just turned my head when I saw anyone hating on MITM. I couldn't take it when ppl didn't recognize a bop 💀
They never ranked on Bilboard Hot 100 as far as I remember
If I'm not wrong the only female kpop artists that ever charted on Bilboard Hot 100 are:
CL
Wonder Girls
BLACKPINK
Rosé
Lisa
Twice
@@MoonLight-dx6gf and I'VE with LOVE DIVE
They ranked 15th
@@RunnerForImSol I think you are mistaking the charts. Bilboard Hot 100 is a totally different chart than the one where IVE ranked 15.
They ranked 15 on Bilboard Global 200 and not Bilboard Hot 100
Also people really expect Itzy to keep the Teen Crush concept when they’re all in their 20s except Yuna… of course their sound and image is going to mature in 3+ years of being a group?
I am personally an early twice bside supremist, but even as someone who adores all their earlier work, I can agree with you that since they started partaking in their music more, the variety and consistent quality has improved heaps! twice aged out of cute concepts beautifully, and are unafraid to keep growing and developing together as a woman-group.
The boyz never ever fell off!!! The boyz can pull off every comeback!! I love thrill ride! Every comeback is perfect!
Yup
Itzy in my opinion has become even better, even if only slightly (because they were already so good at the beginning, but I think they have gotten from 99/100 to 100/100). I don't even stan them because I prefer a bit older groups in age but honestly their last comeback was my favorite era after Icy and they are one of the quintessential idol groups imho. With catchy songs, performance quality, fair amount of iconic moves/choreographies and title tracks so widely known (and b-sides like Shoot semi-viral). I always know I'll enjoy an Itzy comeback.
Twice is THE kpop girl group in my opinion out of the currently active ones. Enough said I think. Performances, discography, the perfect line up, I am glad I got to anticipate and live many of their comebacks.
Chungha is maybe my favorite soloist. I love Roller Coaster, Querencia album and her.
Whenever people say twice, chungha , bp or Itzy fell off , I automatically just know they don't have good taste in music
I've only started stanning The Boyz very recently and ... I think they might have the best boy group discography out there.
(G)I-DLE have yet to put a foot wrong for me.
i think tomboy was okay personally, but overall it was an amazing comeback for gidle- its not my favorite but seeing all their wins even after going on hiatus + losing soojin and seeing them performing makes me so happy,,,, it was the comeback they needed tbh
i've actually fallen in love more and more with Twice since M&M era (see what i did there? 😎). I adore their bsides now.
okay I have THOUGHTS on this, I just recently decided to listen to twice’s (and multiple other groups) full discography and I can fully agree, formula of love is seriously top tier, they only have gotten better I can honestly say I wouldn’t have stanned them if I hadn’t found them prior to fancy, and I only decided to fully stan them after hearing the full progression. twice has no fallen off and honestly I think theyve just gotten started
just imagine the boyz in big 4 company?? their concept each comeback are the reason why the bozy didnt ever fell off.
Twice most certainly didn’t fall off, they just shifted their target audience from 10-15 to 14-24
I’m way older than 24 and Twice woke me up to Kpop this year.
Then I discovered Mamamoo. ITZY, Red Velvet, Aespa, Iz-one etc.
Amazing artistry and such nice wholesome women.
@@powbobs even though you may not be in the demographic, I’m glad twice is still reaching other age groups, and that’s always a plus!
AGREE 100% WITH THE BOYZ, THEY CAN SLAY ANY CONCEPT THEY WANT.
Chungha is absolutely PERFECT, so many different genres, stories, vibes!! I still listen to it years and months after
Yes!! Thank you for including the boyz ❤️❤️
actually from what i observed they call a group that "fell off" because the number of views are decreasing compared to the first one and its impact to the public is not what they have expected. esp in itzy but i am a midzy and no one can call itzy a "fell off" group if their title track LOCO is still going on top of charts. i agree with the speaker, the quality of the songs are getting better.
couldn't agree more in regards to twice! their new albums (as a whole) are so much stronger than their past music, and I love that they're experimenting more with different concepts and sounds. it's quite sad that people judge them based on face value, rather than exploring further than their title tracks :(
Exactly their last two albums are my favorite and I always replay them
Planet Minjae: Without further ado lets talk about the next group
Next: Chungha
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People say Red Velvet has fallen off, baby you wish
Alcohol free and the feels in my top 3 title tracks of twice and they being after 2019 😯
I agree with b-sides.
Not people thinking blackpink has fallen off💀. If blackpink has a comeback tomorrow the industry will quake
exactly
The only thing they need is Comeback.
Sometimes I also thought CEO of YGE is a blonk
That's the thing though, they won't comeback tomorrow. They've been gone as a group for nearly 2 years
@@rockangel1603 they’re obviously not coming back tmr- it’s called being “sarcastic”
In the 4th gen era, I noticed people saying they've fallen off when it's 3rd or 4th release of that group title track.
Agree with twice!💗 they didn't fall of especially they just finish their US tours and all sold out plus their songs grown much. I just hope they gonna tour in asia next ^^ 💎
Sold out everything in minutes.
I think it was a surprise even to them.
Twice's b-sides are so good.
Scandal is such a good b-side
The boyz never fell off lol. what i really like about the boyz is that they try every genre and all of that suits them. All of their songs are bop and i always try to listen first then watch the music video, for me to appreciate it more.
blackpink can’t fall off without releasing music!
The boyz one Is so accurate omg i cant-
I might decide to stan The Boyz soon...
They are so talented, you should really go for it!
Twice may had given some not so iconic TT like scientist and M&M but they had also given one of the most iconic kpop songs of all time Fancy Feelspecial ICSM alcohol free and the feels.
even tough if scientist or More&More are not that "iconic" or not are in the cup of tea of everyone their albums as a whole are amazing
Blackpink has become more of a brand. They have songs that no other group does. They have their own vibe, that no group can copy. But I would disagree that THE ALBUM is their best worked I always find myself going back to SQUARE UP. Boombaya,whistle, as if it's your last, dduddudu.
Agree
Yeahh...
Agree
Oh you wait till they comeback
A lot of kpopies have been saying that aespa has fallen off since black mamba i strongily disagree like didnt you listen to the Savage mini album that was a whole work of art like Ill make you cry , Yeppi Yeppi , Iconic , Lucid Dream those were and still are the best besides of 2021 and they just dropped a pre realese track Illusion for there new mini album Girls coming in July witch i fear toped half of the Savage album in my books Aespa are continuing to get better and better over time so no they didnt fall off in my opinion
I still listen to the savage mini album to this day every day
also i don't understand why people are saying that they fell off after their debut when their title tracks went on to become literally thee PHENOMENAL SENSATIONS and classics, their promotion strategy has gotten much better since this year and their 2nd mini-album which is out on july 8 has sold a HUGE amount of copies (1 million) comparing to +400k copies that 'savage' has surpassed. this is THE POWER.
aespa's discography is restoring my faith in kpop music. i go through periods where i get burnt out on kpop and nothing sounds good and i wonder why none of the music i used to love slaps anymore, but aespa's songs never lose their charm. yeppi yeppi was my favorite song last year by a landslide
I can see why they weren't in the video, they've only been a group for a year so it's hard to tell
agreeed. they’re doing so well, I think people discredit them “falling off” when really, they just don’t like them :/
YESSS finally some MCND recognition, i got to see them in london in may and i'm so glad they're finally getting the recognition they deserve 🥳
It's my personal opinion but I think ateez never fell off too, the growth they have had in every aspect since debut is incredibleee tbh!! ✨
I don't expect a grp to always release good music ,ofc there are bad 'eras' too but I think for me the good always outweighs the bad.
Also agreed with the itzy one 100%.
i can agree that they didn't fell off but tbh KQ, their company is the one that is in my opinion mid promotion-wise, like although their international fanbase has grown a little bit, ESPECIALLY in the beginning of this year because of the tour and performing in front of bigger crowds the *problem* is that their korean fanbase is SMALLER and their promotions in south korea don't look like what people would expect, i mean they've never appeared on major korean variety shows (ex. knowing bros) that can lead to having a great domestical exposure and they rarely, i mean not that much, get music show wins because of poor digitals (like they haven't won on any of 4 MOST MAJOR music shows [mcd, mubank, mucore, inkigayo] since their first ever win with "wave" on mcd), which is really confusing. like i say, ateez might not fell off but their company needs to do just BETTER.
@@HOSHTASTIC so true ,in terms of promotions KQ rlly rlly needs to do better because these guys have so much potential.
crazy over you literally the best b-side on the album along with love to hate me 😭😭
I definitely agree with your opinion that (G)I-dle, Blackpink and Itzy have not fallen off.
Any artist from any field, not just in kpop or even music in general, have grown and improved over the years, and deviating from their original concept should not be frowned upon. While I understand that groups' styles may develop into something that some fans may no longer like or appreciate, it does not mean that it is inherently a bad thing, as the term "falling off" suggests.
By nature, art evolves, and everyone, artists and normal people alike, should be free to evolve and mature without stigma. All of these groups are talented, and they work very hard, and they all deserve to grow in their expression of their art.
omg wr have the same taste. i think HYLT is their best song and love IC but lovesick girls wasnt really my vibe or more like i wanted more of the signature style of BP that no other group can do. but overall its impossible to say BP have fallen off bcz the album was very diverse regardeless of the small amount of songs and also they are blackpink after all lol.
man, Mafia in the morning is maybe my #3 song by any group, of all time 💀
I love the boyz so much but I do love their older music more because it's just my style and why I even got into them in the first place. But just because their music is different doesn't mean they fell off. If anything they got way more popular lol
I am not a midzy but every single Itzy's title track have been on my playlist and on repeat !
Well, I totally agree with The Boyz, their b-sides definitely improve a lot and their title tracks are always superb that I ended up stanning them in the first 10-20 seconds of their song, so yeah I don't think they have "fell off". The Boyz aside, this channel insanely spit facts and I'm here for it. For some, it may become a hard-to-swallow pill, but let's face it, what this channel said is true for every group :))).
In summary: a lot of times, people who say most artists fell off probably don't actually follow the music of said artist.
One group that I also occasionally listen people saying "fell off" is Pentagon after Dawn left. For me, this makes zero sense. I would take literally any title track they released after becoming OT9 over their older songs. Also the albums, their b-sides are becoming constantly better, In:vite U is hands down one of my favorite EPs this year. Whoever don't know their discography, please do yourselves a favour and go listen to One Shot, The Game and Bad from their most recent album 🙏
I feel like jyp artist could never fell off bcz they're gonna bounce back up after the "fell off" comeback
Yeah I agree sm sometimes you can mess up then go back up again (jyp groups title tracks basically)
What about JYP himself? Do you think that J.Y Park fell off? I mean after hearing him try that «Switch to me» highnote live.
THE BOYZ are my number one since the beginning of Legendary Kingdom! There performances and charisma are iconic, plus they just seem so funny and nice. Disagree about Lovesick Girls, that is my number one Blackpink track.
THANK YOU SOYEON!!!! WE'RE PROUD OF IDLE
Whattt The Boyz just get better and better?
Mafia in the morning is my fav song by itzy🙂
let me just say, everything abt itzy is 🤩🤩. literally. all of their title tracks r sing along worthy, catchy, and refreshing
im so pissed w mnh over chungha 😭 she still is, and probably always will be, my favorite soloist. she’s a gem and her company let her down
crazy in love is the 3rd longest charting album on billboard by a kpop girl group, longest by a 4th gen girl group, it sold over 500,000 physical copies, if that’s falling off then i’m ok with it
People say that Itzy, Loona and Twice fell off because they like their older music much better. But, I like their new music a lot, sometimes more than the old music. To me they're getting better.
i genuinely agree with what you said about tbz, their vocals and visuals are always on point. i also think alot of ppl say they're fall off bc they aren't /that/ popular internationally, but they still very popular in SK even though they're from a small company*.
The Boyz and Itzy have never and will never fall off✨
twice: agree with you, in terms of bsides they keep getting better, title tracks tho…
g idle: their tts have always been a hit or miss tbh
blackpink: i think their tts have been getting worse tbh, their earlier songs are much better
chungha: killing me was… a choice definitely! but every artist has to have a mid comeback so it’s ok! querencia is a masterpiece idc!! she’s gonna come back with another banger i trust her
itzy: same as g idle
I mean title tracks is still a hit for twice yeah scientist but the feels is worldwide hit so it actually just depends
bc a lot of people didnt like scientist doenst mean their title tracks are getting worse, im agree with myspace🌌☁ the feels was a hit. In fact, in the 4th world tour you can hear almost everyone shouting, screaming and singing when twice performs scientist, so once like it but the casual listeners probably not and thats okay EDIT: also not really related but at the same time yes lol, if the MV doesnt have many views doesnt mean it fell off, its bad or something, for example with twice again, scientist doesnt have a lot of views compared to the feels but formula of love its their best selling album and imo one of the best albums by them, also is going to be their most streamed on spotify very soon
Blackpink never gets worse honey-🤷🏽♀️ just saying
very agree with twice! also they still keep breaking new records too!
ITZY has never fell off and will never be. They have charted months on billboard, doing records that no other GG did and ur still calling them fell off? Sis bye. Their bsides always been sooo good for me but we can see a huge improvement in GUESS WHO& CIL albums. Their bsides are top tier and idc about what anyone says.
BTW: GAS ME UP is GOLD i respectfully disagree about what u said😭
Nah twice and itzy have hella fans twice out here selling hella tickets for their world tour and I’m sure itzy will too. People forget bsides exist too. like you can also not like any of their music at all but way too many people still do, just because they “fell off” for you doesn’t mean they actually did lol.
wow facts i love u im subscribing
i personally really loved lisa's solo and definitely one of my faves ever, but i didn't like rose 's which is understandable as itis their solo work eah one has a differeent style and lisa seems closest to the BP one that i love. but the whole point is that they're newly debuted soloist and still figuring out their sound so you can't really compare it with the group music as it would make no sense
Itzy has one of the strongest discography in kpop. Like wtf they just kept on getting better and better as time went on. Loco and mitm are definitely my favorite eras and they’re b-sides are criminally underrated. Can’t believe people would say they’re falling off when it’s literally the opposite, they’re definitely one of the biggest fourth gen groups and for sure the biggest female girl group atm. they also appreciate they’re fans so much in every video they’re mentioning midzys and the members have worked so hard producing so much content in between comebacks. Itzy’s effort and dedication needs to be more widely recognized istg!
Chung Ha falling off when she released a whole ass AOTY in 2021. Is Bicycle the best title track? No. But it’s still a bop and the album is phenomenal.
Agree sm with TWICE
Most of the time when people talk about a group falling off they're talking success. I think that may be where the confusion is coming from.
Personally I would add Treasure, I just want them to release more songs especially since there’s SO MUCH TALENT IN THE GROUP ITS CRAZY like even their self composed songs are SO good and I literally listen to them even though they’re incomplete and literally 30 secs long 💀💀
I think the entire YG is trying to find a new fresh sound, which is why Yedam decided to take a hiatus, Teddy trying to find a new sound for Blackpink after getting criticism, G-Dragon same thing and lastly iKON DK and Bobby are probably working hard to create hit songs after B.I left the company.
@@ekuniverse1 with Yedam I think it has to do with his studies because some of the Treasure members are in college and idk what they’re all studying but if Yedam is studying music then maybe it’s exam season or something idk it’s just a prediction.
@@ekuniverse1 nope he just went to continue his studies
@@lilyd9946 But on multiple articles it says " Bang Yedam will be concentrating on studying music as he wanted to improve his production skills".
I would confidently add Stray Kids as well. I think they’re only getting stronger but I agree with this video for the most part.
I personally LOVE old G-Idle releases way better than the latest one but it's just my opinion. I saw the huge hype over tomboy and I'm truly happy for them, just not my taste but no hate ofc.
Why do i agree with you so much
You just earned a sub
LOCO is a bop and I can’t stop listening to it. Definitely my fav from ITZY.
straykids never fell off so idgaf what u say or not 😍💅
SO TRUE recent twice b-sides are so good🥰😭 finally someone who sees that too
Not liking a groups new title song does not mean that the group has fallen off. However, if a lot of people do not like a groups title track, and then you see their low group rankings, and their title tracks as of the last few comebacks are not charting well- then yes, the group has fallen off. The only groups here that I can say have not fallen off are BLACKPINK and TWICE because everyone still talks about them constantly and they still chart regardless of not as good title tracks. I could also say that ITZY and Chungha also haven't fallen off either because they are both still loved by fans and everyone always tunes into their comebacks.
Gidle's biggest hit by far is their latest comeback so they've done the opposite of falling off.
@@CJDM310 yes the song has gotten a lot of love in South Korea, but it is not loved by everyone it is split. I don't personally like the song because of the guitar sample and the chorus. So the song is more of a miss than a hit for me.
Imagine saying that BP fell off lmaoo😭😭. Didn't know this was a thing.
I always thought that "fell off" meant that x idol lost popularity or that they kinda lost their status as one of the big competitions. What does "fell off" exactly means?🤔
GUESS WHO ALBUM IS 10/10 especially kidding me and shoot
I agree with you about twice. Their overall quality is top notch, FOL was so great (We do NOT talke about Hello)
WHO TF THOUGHT THE BOYZ WAS FALLING OFF??!??!?!
LMAOO
I stan SKZ and even I CAN acknowledge that they're doing amazing
haters need to chill smh and get a life
Stray kids too , like every time it's get better and better
Masquerade by CHUNG HA is one of her most slept-on b-sides
I agree with twice their bsides have gotten soooo better but with itzy i loved their bsides before not shy i don't think downloaded one bside since wannabe era