Ed Leedskalnin Magnet
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- NOTE I forgot to mention that the light bulb was changed to a LED. Ed Leedskalnin was a very interesting and curious man. He believed he had a more fundamental understanding of electricity and magnetism as well as the knowledge of the pyramid builders. He built whats called the coral castle. No one knows how this small latvian man built this great monument which can still be visited in florida. He also put out a few strange books which were kind of study guides for magnetism and electricity the way he saw it. This is one of the experements the book says to play with. Here we are making an electromagnet into some kind of permanant magnet and then turning that back into electricity. Dont ask me how this works, i find it interesting.
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Proud to be Latvian now. Ed was our own little N. Tesla.
It is a very nice demo of electromagnetism, but is standard junior school science, and started in the 1840's with Michael Faraday, all permanent magnets are made by electromagnets, even rare earth types. Some steels retain magnetism, some are temporary, or poor retention like some nickel alloys. The light shows the field collapse, back EMF very clearly. A magnetic field has to be in flux, moving, to generate the electricity.
Place a spinning magnet above the coils, an excellent AC generator.
I have to say, this is a great demonstration! Good craftsmanship and video quality, keep up the good work!
Its a perpetual magnetic flux in the core, so long as you don't break the circuit. The magnetism, like a current, runs in a loop like the water cycle of earth in a way.
I agree with the your explanation for the most part. But the electromags at the scrap yard defiantly do not use this specific application. Correct both are electromagnets, but the major difference is that the junk yards magnet requires a constant electrical current to operate, whereas my device stores the charge when its turned off. The ability to store magnetic current isnt something widely discussed.
the best thing to do in order prove that a magnetic current is really trap in that u shape electromagnet is to approach it with a compass. This perpetual motion holder were used by Ed, to strengthen the magnet in the V magnet that He used. The main thing that He use to construct the Coral Caste is the FLYWHEEL, we should all be focusing on that not the PERPETUAL MOTION HOLDER. Thnx for posting your video.
Hi RLore18,
To answer your question, no free energy from this device in its current form that i can detect. The device does however produce some sort of permanent orbit like he says. I think its intended to be more of a learning device, than an actual useful device. That "permanent orbit" effect is strange and not something that is taught about magnets, i think that is the point, for us to try to understand and apply it.
thanks for your interest,
cody
When you established flux, what would happen if you reversed the current? Would it destabilize the field or just reorient it?
@Simonseke1
Yes this has to do with induction. Electricity is composed of a magnetic fields and dielectric fields. Dielectric fields can be stored in capacitors. What this device shows is that magnetic fields can be stored as well, its like an inductive capacitor.
Very nice video Cody.
@codygillespie yeah it was AC from a plug socket, but does tungsten become magnetised?
@allthatjazz989
Well its pretty simple, the switch opens and closes the circuit to the primary power coil one way , and then the other way it closes the circuit to the LED on the secondary. Ed shows it wired differently if you read his magnetic current book, however no special wiring is required to get the effect. Mainly you need a good iron core that mates up perfectly and a coil with a good number of turns.
Thanks, i will post a schematic if i make another video. Its actually very simple. You dont even need 2 coils, one will work. Put your coil on your u shaped bar, set the other bar on top, touch the coil leads to a battery for a second. Thats it! You have your permanent electromagnet even when you disconnect the battery. Then hook the coil leads up to a bulb(led in this case) and rip the bar off the top.
So while the battery is disconnect is there still current run through one winding or two winding bifilier
This is seriously amazing. thanks for sharing now my idea can come to life.
How long does it stay magnetized? Are we talking days or just seconds? The energy seems to be stored in the coils. It's causing oscillations. Kind of like ringing a bell, but using EM.
@MegaHazzer123
Were you using an AC power source? The magnetic field of the filament will fluctuate polarity with the 60Hz wall power. Subjecting this to a magnet should cause a push/pull effect on the filament with the alternating current. Thats my best guess.
@yttermayn and all........Ed's perp. motion model is not intended to be built bigger or anything or to provide us with free energy, it is a model of TRUE perp. energy.......once u charge the coils with energy, that energy will stay within the model for infinity, or until u release the energy into the bulb.......it doesn't matter how much energy you get from it, or how much more energy it takes to release the stored energy......
You know what I think? We shouldn't call Ed, Ed. We should call him, ET!
how strong do you have to pull ?
@codygillespie
Edit: sorry i forgot in this vid i dont use a secondary coil, so the switch closes the circuit to the coils and the battery one way and disconnects the battery and closes the circuit with the LED the other way.
I'm not educated in electrics, so it's easy for me to guess that the coils were just like capacitors. The bar clung on, kept the circuit closed, like a vacume. Not even sure whether the current needs to "run" to sttically keep the bar in place like that.
Looking forward to the summary of narutoz1996's book!
great work.
yes ed was a genious
Hello, I am very curious to know what kind of coil is this??
The gate has been repaired, but does not work as good as when Ed put it up. They put a cage around it.
Hi, can you use steel wire to make an electromagnet ? - it conducts electricity the same a copper ?
Hello
Please tell me what kind of coil is this??
How should we wind this coil???
As far as I know, bifilar coils are made of two parallel wires but in a single layer
But your coil has a large diameter!
Please tell me because I am very interested to know how this coil should be wound
Ed's FLYWHEEL is a torsion field generator device
@yttermayn
Yes. There is energy stored within the core but in order to get it out we must supply some energy.
How strong is this magnet? About how much weight can it lift?
continued...due to the broken loop, if the electricity is able to find itself an alternative path to the receiving terminal, why wouldn't it choose the shortest distance through surface contact crossing loop to loop in the first place?
@lykenth08
Yes, you can use it. But no. it does not conduct as well as copper. Has higher resistance.
Hmmm nice Idea, I will have to try that....yeah I guess what I meant by "not outwardly" was that the magnetic field seemed to be completely contained within the clips rather than traveling outside of them. I like your thoughts on the subject however...I will have to try that little experiment....thanks!
@4thdensityreality....my thoughts exactly the second I saw Leedskalnin's picture.
@op684
interesting find. Im not positive if that explains it or not. The definition i read sounded like the term residual magnetism. If the two words are describing the same thing than its not it. But if its not the same thing, than maybe it is. Not sure, thanks.
Is it possible to have a magnet where its two spheres, one inside the other with opposite poles? And if so, I need 9 of them.
Nice little set up......Someone at Purdue did a similiar one to yours, people still argue exactly what the implications are of it. Ive done a similiar (much less impressive) version.... By taking two paper clips and a magnet hold the mag to one clip and pick up the other. Now SLOWLY take away the magnet and the clips will stay together...yet if you try to pick up even a tiny scrap of metal at their junction point it will not work.....so the effect is not a magnetic one(well not outwardly anywy)
When you pull the bar off the coils that action induces emf back to the led making it flash it's not free energy nor perpetual motion! ;-)
@4thdensityreality Very well said! They are both so similar.
Wally Wallington didn't need one to build a stonehenge
Inductance and magnetic permeability
Has anyone done any experiments to see how much power is required to start the magnet ? That would interest me.
A small amount of magnetism will remain in the steel after power is removed. This happens all the time in screwdrivers laying around the shop. Then they pick up metal shavings from where ever, a real nuisance.
Try it with a nail. Wrap some wire around it, give it some DC, and viola . . . Magnetized nail.
@MegaHazzer123
Im not positive on the residual magnetic effects of tungsten if thats what your asking, but any conductor with a current applied will have a magnetic field while current is running (while the switch is on). Im pretty sure thats what effect you are seeing, i have seen this behavior before from AC devices, its nothing unusual, but can be fun to play with ; )
Also, I should say perpetual, nothing lasts forever that we know of. Lets just say it is a an efficient extended magnetic flux hold. I think the longest recorded so far is 2 or 3 years but I would have to look into that.
It could be practical in helping stop Lenz effect. Just an thought but there is always a purpose for all things ;)
AWESOME thx
@Tenchcnet Yes he was! Very clever little man he was. I've been to Coral Castle and its breathtaking. Unfortunately the 9 ton gate no longer turns. :(
like static electricity.
we hold the current till we touch, and shock somebody
wow this is great
I think i would love to build a spaceship. I am aware of the effects but honestly im not the person to ask about that. Those are experiments on my to do list : )
Please build a spaceship, I'll help
How long does the charge hold? Is it infinate or does it eventually wear off?
My understanding it’s infinite as long as not disturbed. 13 years later bud
@yttermayn
I havnt measure\d it but it seems like a fair amount, which is why i dont really think its practical for anything but a learning device. Its much more efficient to get the collapsing field by using the proper frequency at a givin inductance to catch the reactive flyback of the coil. It basically acomplishes the same thing without having to pull the bar off. The 4th vid demonstrates this effect.
@logicCplusplus
Has nothing to do with making permanent magnets, its an electromagnet. The iron does retain some residual magnetism, but not much. The magnetic field is stored within the closed flux path similiar to how capacitors store electric fields. Watch the movie some more or make your own and you will see. Defiantly different than scrap yard electromag function.
thats how space ships and the star gate works
Science has come a long way, and many great things have come from our current understanding of nature, but we cant yet explain everything. So yes some things will change or get added to as our understanding increases. But i wouldnt go discrediting the work that has been done just yet.
Question on the coils in general, you have the 500-loop coils there, since the copper material of every coil is in contact with other coils, wouldn't the electricity just direct pass through the whole piece instead of going over every loop? in other words, what's the difference between the 500-loop coil and a one piece donut shaped copper conductor? in reality, why would electricity goes through every loop? what if a loop is broken? would the electricity re-direct through surface contact? thanks
Copper wires are covered in thick lacquer type insulation, like when you dip wire in paint and let it dry, then it’s nonconductive. Solid piece of copper will not do it as the field is generated by electricity going into loops and as more loops you make and more electricity you provide, the magnetic force is stronger.
What does this have to do with Ed Leedskalnin?
Hey thanx for the video, have you looked into bi-toroid transformers? The theory is that using that transformer the two secondaries play off of each other w/o increasing the pull from the primary. Search for it, many people have replicated it successfully (i'm working on doing that as well).
@codygillespie Can't this be considered a flux capacitor ? because basically that's waht it does ? capacitates energy via electromagnetic field collapse
woah! intresting.. care to post a schematic ?
Leedskalnin is a genius.
did you not just make an inductor?
Hi, why does the small led glows when you remove the bar?
Part of the info is when a wire goes through a wire it moves two things, electrons and protons. When they strip the electrons the protons are remained. That's what causes what they call the lenz law effect. The coil has become so full that the protons are blocking the flow (that's DC now). In this case the loop of the metal has become a permanent magnetic and when you break the loop the protons produce a voltage. Try that with a stranded steel wire and see what happen. You won't get that spark because it's not building up in the metal. Do the same thing with a sheet of copper.
A magnet will slide down the copper slow. BUT if you put slots in it they will go down fast. The mass of the metal or copper increase the amount of protons.
It seems bizarre that the metal bar stays attached, even though you've de-energised the electromagnet!
What I was taught at school, is when an electromagnet is de-energised, any metal attached to it will just fall off, because there's no longer any magnetism holding it there.
So....After you have de-energised your electromagnet, where is the magnetism/energy coming from in order to hold the bar on there?
Is this one of those Free-Energy type things?
-BoomBoxDeluxe.
Yes, it's bizzare and it proofs the point of perpetual motion holder (PMH). Some people don't realise it, but this simple experiment proofs that once set in motion (in a closed loop) the magnetic current will circulate indefinitely long (a perpetual motion of... something). You can detach the battery and wait for years and when finaly break the loop, the diode will lit up "burning" the energy of the released magnetic current.
Egyptians had access to copper so that tells me it could be something to yhink about after watching it
I cant detect any magnetic field while its charged up. Lighty did some good tests to prove that. It just looks like a normal piece of iron to the world. Its as if all the flux is concentrated inside the iron, strange but thats how it behaves.
this look like the door lock.
Are you aware of anyone who has built a working model of Ed's flywheel device?
@codygillespie Hi, thanks for that. Iv just done a video useing steel wire (its uploading ATM ) but iv had strange results an behaviour i cant get my head round. could you take a look one time?
@4thdensityreality Interesting.
As far as i can tell, as well as other peoples results, it will defiantly hold for a long time. Im not going to claim that it can hold infinitely, but i know others believe that to be true. I have not detected any sign of it wearing off over time, but i also have not done any extensive testing on it. I would say its possible.
This device seems like a joule thief and is similar to the mac farland cook battery (look pat2pdf (dot) org 119825. Very interesting!!!
Tkx for share
@runnningrage
no, not until the core is broken
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I believe it's called a capacitor.
Yep thats how power works.Magnets over coiled copper with movement.Im not sure what your trying to show hear?
What he said!!!!
Well come on Einstein ! Put it on us !
Look up ancient knowledge full movie... It talks about ed and his work, if u skip right at the end of the doc there is an experiment with copper and magnets.p.s the
@4thdensityreality ive thought about the same thing
Yay! Now to make the oscillating one!!
What's the deal with this? All it is is an electromagnet. What's it got to do with this Leedskalnin guy?
I doubt with your set up, if it will be able to lift 20 lbs weight.
Que pasa si pusiera una roca en medio. Sería capaz de sostener
all you did is by running 9vdc into coils is create a weak magnetic feild in the flat bar north south and when its pulled off sends a pulse into the coils primary and exits the secondary to light the lamp scrap the bar get a bar permament magnet and stick it on n pull it off it will flash without a battery if u put a bolt in center of magnet to a drill and spin it close to u bar it will generate ac out and bulb will keep lit check voltage of output n bulb rateing first 4diodes will out dc
@otnomnoraa
You probably heard that at the local gay bar. It shouldn't be too hard to ask that question later today when you're there again.
@op684
in its current form, i dont think its really practical for anything. I believe this phenomenon can be explained with conventional physics, but i have never seen an explanation for it, i think most people dont know the effect exists.
A capacitor
Sorry no inductance waS INVOLVED!!!
@4thdensityreality
yea i would pretty much agree with your explanation. Weather or not the magnetic "flow" continues going in loops or if its some sort of static magnetic charge, i really havnt seen any proof as to what exactly its doing, i know leedskalnin believed it continued circulating.
Im not sure that it does apply to lifting large stones either. Why did Ed Leedskalnin leave behind these strange anomalies about magnetism, i have no idea. Does it relate to whatever he was up to? Maybe, but dont think anyone has figured that out yet.
This device has no purpose.
always enjoyed this video. It inspired me to make this one...
watch?v=6lspAxYGxWA
@otnomnoraa
Thanks, not interested.
Cody ! Shame on you... You said powered it up!!!! When you flipped the switch you put power in the coils to perform electromagnetic work. Since they're in a close looped circuit, they don't loose power. because of surrounding magnetic field feeding off the aetherial energy, is will go for years and hold the bar across the coils.