Morrissey - The Solo Years - {Complete Film}
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- {Complete Film}. The solo career of Stephen Patrick Morrissey has, to date, lasted five times as long as that of his former band The Smiths. So while, as with the majority of artists, his most memorable and significant work was created during his first few years in the business, his numerous solo records, issued across three decades, prove that Morrissey was the main creative force in The Smiths, Johnny Marr not having released anything memorable since the split, and the other two not having released anything at all except as session musicians. This film documents Morrissey s solo years and tells the story of this period of his life in vivid detail. Featuring rare footage of Mozzer in performance and in interview, contributions from those who have known him best (including Tom Wilson, Stuart Maconie and numerous others), seldom seen photos, location shoots, news clips and a host of other features. Extras include digital Morrissey discography and Morrissey online quiz.
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I love The Smiths and Morrissey's solo work equally. It really is a shame that so many Smiths fans won't even give Morrissey's solo work a chance even after all these years.
Moz,, marr they were equals and they knew it ....I loved both sides it was a breath of oxygen to me....I suffer from depression and this lot made life bearable for me....Moz was using the words I felt and needed to hear not to punch my own ticket...
I don’t think this is true now. Especially millennial Moz fans despite these facts are usually fans of both.
Not every 90s album was great but after you are the quarry he hasn’t missed much at all
morrisey is one of those artists where his ego is absolutely massive, but when criticised for that fact, he subsequently proves why his ego is so massive
Brilliantly put
Typical… but made him exactly who he is. That we love. Bummer he basically ruined the Smiths. They could have been a great band for MUCH longer. All his fault.
Morrisey about the only star telling the truth these days
He's an idiot, but a brilliant genius at the same time.
Amazing lyricist, and a sad little man in civil.
And Mr Lydon.
Our village country pub used to have a jukebox. It was filled with old tunes from the 50s and 60s like “ The Crystal Chandeliers “ and the most modern music was Status Quo or Mungo Jerry but somehow “ Girlfriend in a Coma “ was added to the machine One night I walked into The Three Bells - full of crusty old retired Farmers with their Jack Russells & Collies - to suddenly hear the sound of Morrissey crooning loudly above them all ! It was one of the most bizarre musical moments of my life 😁
Nice memory x
Someone picked up on the girl group parody "Leader of the Pack" melodrama down to the "Bye, bye baby, bye-bye" that makes it so funny. Doomed romance was a theme in early rock:Tell Laura, Running Bear, etc.
Life is all about these moments.......
as 'weird' as Morrissey may appear, he's NOWHERE on the scale compared to a farmer and his jack russell
@@maureenlansley671 it is filled with them but it's special when our mind has the wherewithal to take note of them.
Viva Hate and Bona Drag* are both masterpieces. Fantastic pop albums with some of the best lyrics Moz has ever written and some of the most risky and adventurous music...
But songs like Sing your Life, Throwing my arms around Paris, You have killed me, Kiss me a lot, The more you ignore me... are enough to build ANY artist's career... Moz' solo career is epic and legendary.
No it isn't. His band career was.
@@LaughingStock_yes. It is.
Morrissey really is a fantastic lyricist and singer. He deserves far more attention that he gets.
He is the 🐐
I'm not sure he really suffers from a deficit of attention ..
He DOES get lots of attention. What ARE you on about?? 🙂
i agree
"Deserved". Like Patti Smith, you can only take so many LPs before it gets tiresome.
Most of It's not even new that's the saddest part, Morrissey has been solo for 25 years, his solo work is amazing. But many Smiths fans are stuck in 1987 and won't give any of his solo work a chance.
NOPE…. No respect for his business decisions. Love his voice. It was really Johnny’s band. Major respect of J-Marr. He was the band.
Johnny Marr is undoubtedly a great guitar player, but as a personal opinion, in music it's the lyrics that runs, and upon that point of view, Morrissey is a gifted. He is really someone out of the ordinary. He's a tremendous song writer. God bless him for what he's already gave us.
As I see it, in music it's all about lyrics. You pass a message whether a personal experience, a caleidoscope view of the (your) world, anyway a message that glues, an 3/4 of the success is there. After that it's just a question of a great music writer.
not really. marr was the genius behind the smiths. almost all there biggest songs are iconic because of the guitar work. this charming man,hand in glove, what difference does it make are all big songs because of the guitar
@@fraser7118Yes all The Smiths song started with the tunes from Johnny Marr. Morrissey would live with the tapes Johnny gave him for a few days and come up with the lyrics
@@fraser7118both were equally important to The Smiths brilliance but Morrissey solo work far outstrips Marr's
2023 here and Morrissey just did concerts in Australia
which show he is still in fine form, strong voiced, and genial as ever.
Morrissey is a genius, and The Smiths are one of the most important bands of all time
Moz solo is top notch. “Speedway” is by far my favorite song of his. Just as good as the best smiths songs.
So true. Speedway is special.
that song blows
He's also one of the greatest lyricists of all time, in my opinion the greatest.
I agree, he is the greatest!
I won't say that, but he knows how to sing his songs! He's one of the best music arrangers around, coz he can take a ridiculous song (Last of the famous international playboys) and work magic. Like Johnny Taylor's 'Rome wasn't built in a day'
Morrissey isn't given enough credit for being an immensely talented GREAT singer like Johnny Taylor or even Marvin Gaye.
Agreed
As a lyricist, he belongs in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame... As a band member, he belongs in with the rest of The Smiths
"Your Arsenal" and "Vauxhall" were the masterpieces. Although I really love "World Peace" more than most other fans do
Years of refusal
Your Arsenal was great. But Viva Hate and Bona Drag were classics as well. Poor, poor Kill Uncle. So unappreciated. And that's the tour I first saw him on, as well!
The smiths were/are the greatest band EVER, Morrissey is the only songwriter who is in the same league as Dylan ❤️my life is better because of this group, we are very privileged indeed to have known and love them now and forever ❤️💔
I like how Morrissey never ever appears in any documentary about him.
Hahaha ikr
He's in one of them. The Quintessence of being Morrissey.
Morrissey HAS had a few amazing solo albums, lest we forget. For me Vauxhall and I ranks highest - the best combo of lyrics, songwriting, and relatively understated production in his catalogue. Your Arsenal comes next followed closely by Viva Hate (despite the somewhat cheesy 80's pop production on some of the numbers).
Delicious singer, heavenly sound, poet and lyricist
Hi I like your accent
Morrissey expresses, critics recoil, fans understand.
The Smiths desperately needed a manager Morrissey could respect.
Does such a thing exist?
Anyway, it's great to hear Tony Wilson's perceptive opinions. He was almost always right.
I have to disagree, The Smiths were pure magic a perfect band, lyrically and musically.
@dani cali it's his personality
@dani cali Just because his band are more friends with moz doesn't mean that they make better music.
@@Pazuzu82 the smiths make no music because they couldn't get along
Disagree all you want. People and their fuckin comments
The Smiths-
ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL
He's so dreamy. I love Morrissey.
Good show. I recommend! An artist comes goes to Morrissey's house to work on the album cover and sits on a couch. The artists comes back to Morrissey's house another day and notices the couch is gone. The artist asks "Where did the couch go, are you moving?" Morrissey replies with "What couch?" LOL
I would say hairdresser on fire is a awesome song and a personal favourite of mine
Had to check- thought you'd made it up😅
Kill Uncle is a fantastic album, and as usual, the critics don't get Morrissey. It kept the spirit of the Smiths but didn't mimic anything, it just kept the style going... to me.
His voice was best in this era
Morrissey's autobiography 1 through 14 is incredibly enjoyable.. The references to the lyrics written in his autobiography are wonderful and I can connect w in the book. Its poetic, witty and elegantly written. I don't love Morrissey anymore, I adore him. He does have a Latin heart.
Kill uncle is an incredible album. So under rated
Years of refusal
ya you are right
"He's a tricky swine you never know with him." I get the feeling he was looking for the attention, but I don't know. At any rate, his music is some of the most authentic expression I've ever heard, when he sings it is as though he is singing directly to me and he has created a world that has remained strong and fascinating throughout his solo career. There is simply no one like him and as an artist he has produced excellent work
Viva hate and Bona Drag were excellent albums that I thought were every bit as good as his stuff with the Smiths, and I saw Morrisey play a few times in his earlier days, up to and including the Kill Uncle tour. I am pleasantly surprised that he kept releasing great albums and his career continued at such a high level for many years after this.
Only men can talk about Morrissey apparently.
White men.
Morrissey Legacy is a huge piece of the British *Musician* Industry 👌 🇬🇧🏴😎.
..p.s... hey we're all human..we all make mistakes ...But , No-One Can Ever Take Away The B- Side Of Morrissey's Music Genius - ism .
Listening In From Liverpool England 🏴
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Morrissey is a lyrical genius and some of his solo songs are just as good as the material from the smiths not as consistent musically as the smiths period but he has got some great songs without a doubt MOZZA is an icon of the music world
Don't at all understand Vin's comment near the end when he says Morrissey sounds bored. If I put on a Smith's song say Cemetery Gates, then an early solo like Suedehead, then one of the new songs like Irish Blood English Heart, I don't hear any less commitment or interest in his voice. What is he going on about? Actually, Morrissey seems to have somehow been able to retain an element of genuineness and honesty that makes him as listenable to now as in 1984.
he often sounded board. and the songs were boring, often.
I love Maladjusted...
I'll always worship my musical god Morrissey!
Street is clearly the honest one here. Vini just basically states that he wrote the music and didn't take credit for it (oh, okay), while Street actually gives some specifics, like citing Kate Bush as the influence for the strings in "Angel, Down We Go Together". I've always thought Morrissey should've stuck with him, and that we missed out on some great music. Those singles after The Smiths - "Interesting Drug", LOTFIP, "Suedehead", etc...- classics.
Totally agree but boy Vini played some beautiful guitar on that album.
Not sure I agree; what else has Stephen Street written? And I can't see where the motivation would be for VIni to lie. I always wonder about those who seem most vehement.
It's likely that they both had input, and were not able to sort out recognition.
There's such a lack of recognition of Vini Reilly on that album's packaging that I was suspicious at the time of it's release. I worked with record labels not long after that time, and can tell you that people were quite dubious about credits, and much of it was over money. Oh, the days of sales of physical product generating real money ...
Great guitarist Vini...King of the reverb and one of Manchester's gems on the music scene.
Whatever Reilly's motivations he really can't be taken very seriously given the things he said here. His claim that he played the string quartet backing track for Angel Angel We Go Down Together on a keyboard was quite simply laughable.
Maybe Morrisey did take the piss, and I've heard enough to agree that Reilly is an extremely talent musician in his own right; he's made some fantastic records, and his guitar playing on Viva Hate is great. It's just his claims in this documentary are suspect, and at least one is verifiably nonsense.
He's an absolutely brilliant guitarist, but we all know he didn't write those songs. He doesn't need to claim them, he's done so much great work and he's certainly appreciated.
Huh?
@@glensky72 John is evidently talking about guitarist Vini Reilly, not Morrissey. In the documentary Reilly claims authorship of songs.
I think it was settled after, Vinnie apologised to Stephen
"But before you go can you look at the truth,you have a lovely singing voice,a lovely singing voice and all those who sing on key they stole the notion from you and me...so sing your life",it's my fave!Now go home to your mother!
while i like plenty of Morrissey songs it seems a bit silly when people talk about Moz having a longer career as a solo artist than The Smiths has a group. well...so what? longevity has nothing to do with uniformity of quality. The Smiths were magic from beginning to end. nobody would assess the quality of Paul McCartney's solo work against the work he did with The Beatles based on how long his solo career has been. it makes no sense.
I really couldn't agree more with this statement...Spot On!
Well put...
other then that the beatles is shit,just like paul
You are talking specifically about that NME guy's comment, right? People love Morrissey's solo stuff. There's at least four solo albums that I'd rate as good as The Smiths. He's has had a long career, complete with rabid fans. Just 'cause you're not that into it, that doesn't invalidate the guy's point. The Smiths were, what, 83 to 87? There were some low periods over the years, but he's still mostly been huge. What are you disagreeing with?
(And incidentally, both Paul and John made some great solo stuff, stuff people care about quite a bit.)
You are arguing a point the guy didn't even make. He's just saying the Smiths were a short-lived band, compared to Morrissey's long career. That's an empirical fact. He didn't compare the music. But again, Viva Hate, Your Arsenal, Vauxhal, and Quarry are as good as any Smiths record, imo. But that isn't the point.
Jason Lefler well yes it does seem silly for you to talk about it. So what? So...several solo albums that eclipse his smiths work, so song writing that has grown and matured continues to blossom 30 years after the smiths, so packed auditoriums worldwide, so........?
Very interesting watching this in 2018 as Morrissey comes round again.
"some men here, have a special interest in your career they want to help you to grow, and then syphon all your dough, why don't you find out for yourself..."
The magic of the group together I really miss. I love Morrissey...
A Morrissey documentary with no Morrissey music in it! Interesting none the less
@dani cali because you're just that dumb
Okay, Vini Reilly. You probably truly do believe you wrote those songs. No more drugs for that man, mmmkay
I have hair as bad as Vinny but I’m hooked on OxyContin 🙄
What I like about these unauthorized documentaries, although they don't feature Morrissey himself, is that it does focus solely on the music. Perfect for a nerd like me : )
i love morrissey and the smiths. my best ever. and i'm not young.
So good to hear great artists talking about their work on the first period (despite troubles, Street, Reily, Langer, Nevine).
⭐️🎙🎶✨️I love all Morrissey Songs Their My favourites all of Them ✨️🎵🎸⭐️
Am I allowed to still love him ?
Yep
yk wot, ppl can love who they wanna lol - there, i said it...
Probably not
Depends. Is your self-esteem predicated on being liked by the wokest-wokesters on Twitter? If so, then, yeah, probably not. If your backbone actually has some calcium in it, you'll be fine. Love away.
By asking that question, my answer would be NO.
I think Kill Uncle is my favorite Moz solo album, but Your Arsenal will always be the most important to me because it was the first one i owned, purchased on a whim when i was 13 or so. Buy one get one free used cd deal at my local record store and i end up with Your Arsenal and Penis Envy by Crass
There is one, Maconie !
For me, I have a special affection for Your Arsenal...not least because Ronno produced. ❤❤❤
Growing up in the Midwest US is the early 90s, _Bona Drag_ was about all I had access to after Mike Nelson's Morrissey impression from MST3K had peaked my interest. I had no idea it was a compilation; I just thought it was an absurdly solid album.
I grew up in Springfield, Ohio, a town of like 40k people, near Dayton, Ohio. I had all the Smiths stuff, had Viva Hate, bought all of the singles from Bona Drag before it came out, then bought Bona Drag, then bought Kill Uncle, and saw him live in 1991 in Cincinnati. It wasn't THAT hard to get stuff back then, haha. I was watching it all unfold on MTV's 120 Minutes as it went along. Hell, I wasn't even IN Springfield, I lived in Enon, a village of like 3,000 people between Springfield and Dayton. I had The Stone Roses first album, The Cure discography, the Sundays first album, New Order/Joy Division stuff, Siouxsie, etc. Even Cocteau Twins stuff, Lush, etc. It was all around if you looked.
I agree with everything he says regarding animals x and his thoughts to do with the Chinese and others and their abuse and total disregard of sentient animals on the planet , long live people like him.his openness is disarming to the bland.
yes - and sentient is the key word.
Bigot lmao
52:40 Kill Uncle is my favorite album... I was in 10th grade and listened to it non-stop for months.. It seemed. I love it.
You might be one of the few, lol.
Your Arsenal is his masterpiece.
This is a great documentary.
His voice is heavenly
most underrated singer/songwriter of all time. Morrissey. (brett anderson also but morrissey is the ultimate).
I believe Stephen Street when he says he wrote the music for the Viva Hate album. I've seen him play guitar onstage for Peter Doherty's solo gig at Camden Roundhouse in 2009, he was good. Graham Coxon played guitar on Pete's solo album but when he couldn't make it to a live show Stephen would fill in for him and he is a good guitarist and it wasn't just songs from Pete's solo album that Stephen played but he played some Babyshambles songs at that gig too.
Morrissey has always been important as a songwriter and his
head strong attitude was always refreshing. I love Vauxhall And
I. Still his best album with some exceptional l tracks. Viva Hate was
important too as Morrissey made his mark as a solo performer after
The Smiths disbanded. Thank You Craig in Stocksbridge. : )
Some of his later stuff is excellent. His last one ‘I am not a Dog on a Chain’ is an absolute belter.
I loved every minute of that.
If only Morrissey had stayed with Stephen Street, he could have had multiple great albums instead of just three (Viva, Bona, and Vauxhall)
Not one note of music in this documentary - Which is bizzarre for a music documentary!
Why do I come here ? When I’ve seen this thing million times? Ohh why do I come?
This man is my hero
This is great thanks for uploading!
Thanks for posting! Love you Moz XO
I wrote Viva Hate and so did my wife!
Marc Skeldon Haha me too, I taught Morrisey everything he knows. I wrote the Smiths songs as well. I mean I played video games but I could have written them if I wanted to I just didn't feel like it. yeh
life of brian reference! you're so english. :)
Marc Skeldon )ll
You still have a more valid claim than Vini Reilly
Hah.
I believe vinny
'He stayed true to himself'. Nuff said.
The background of that rift tarnished Morrissey's career over a long period. I heard this was a big problem to him. The doc did a great job of fleshing out this dispute with the interviews of these two players.
I love the fact that the guys are arguing with each other about who wrote what- It’s really funny for some reason
Great vid despite the Marr and Smiths bashing in the video description.
I agree. I think that's very unfair.
Adam Nicholls Unfair and untrue.
David Adams explain the untrue. Please, as someone whos worked with marr and morrissey i'd LOVE to hear this.
Please?
+tom foolery And I'm the Pope.
Crass, not particularly classy...but untrue? How so? Morrissey kept going, making great music. Johnny was a great guitarist and the first in a long line of successful collaborations Morrissey has had. But what has Marr done since? I know he played with Modest Mouse, not on their most successful album, but after. And he did something with The The. But I couldn't name one post-Smiths track of Marr's. Rourke was a great bass player, but come on, that's what he was, a great bass player, adding his contribution to songs written by other people. And ol' Mike can go shit in his hat. He wasn't even a particularly great drummer. I agree the description didn't need to be said, but it's certainly not lies.
Interestingly placed on the timeline, I do think this film is an expansive examination of the impressions of those who had worked with him. But I do think the most illuminating observations come from Tony Wilson. The Smiths songwriting owes it's uniqueness to the LACK of conventional pop songwriting inherent. They simply had not mastered conventional songwriting, except perhaps on a song like "Light". JM and M both like to think they have advanced as songwriters but ofcourse the evidence is refuted by their earlier work. They had a unique writing style. It ensured the records would mostly not become pop classics, like say a Neil Diamond song or whatever. But their style was part of the esoteric, enclosed world which retains an appeal for so many of us. I comb his solo back catalogue with real interest, however. Wrap Your Arms Around Me verbalises emotional pain uniquely. It has indeed proven difficult to find a consistant anchor, judging by the erratic results, and I wonder if he has really blown in it Britain now (2018). He is a complex man isn't he. I wish I could identify myself actually because one of The Smiths is a big fan of my work, and given a chance I know I could make a good record with M.
Okay fellas.. fellas..! Let's get back to the video above. As I watched this especially the commentaries by Vinny Riley and Steven Street the doc' becomes surreal as it captures the whole meaning behind 'Find out for Yourself'. These are the very players Mo' was talking about in that song. Vinny esp. seems still destroyed by the experience of not hitching up with Morrissey and becoming his new Johnny Marr.
I thought I had something open in another tab. Yeah, no. The music is way too loud with the voice over.
Morrissey was the Smiths
So why is everything post-Viva Hate increasingly dull AOR?
This is just so wrong
More like the Smiths were Van Halen.
Still going strong in Vegas
I'm enjoying this... it has a spinal tap/extras vibe...
Morrissey, I’m a poet..
Did Morrissey and Pete Burns have a thing going back in the day...anybody..???
no they were just friends nothing more
Moz iz god
No one ever mentions "bona drag", compilation or not it sold shed loads at an important time! It just never gets mentioned, even here where "world of Morrissey" is mentioned.
It does get mentioned here.
In The Smiths, the songs and rythm especially Johnny Marr's great guitar were the driving force.
When Morrissey went solo it's his writing that was more you have to listen to.
VIVA MORRISSEY
Morrissey the first of the gang to fly
I realize that the producers of this uniformly bad documentary needed to promote their subject but to claim that Johnny Marr has done nothing since the demise of The Smiths is ludicrous. Marr is universally recognized as one of the truly great guitarists/musicians/artists of the last 50 years. His partnership with Mozz was magic and neither has ever captured the magic they once shared.
Him and Johnny Marr were lovers and the two had a lovers break-up like lovers do. They've kept that aspect of it under wraps for years. Johnny was ready to move on, but Morrissey was in love with Johnny, like Boy George and Jon moss of Culture Club, except Jon Moss and Boy George made peace, but Morrissey wanted Johnny Mar back and wouldn't accept any other way. Seen it so many times is why I know.
Moz came back from a canceled trip & caught Marr cheating with another singer in the studio, Bryan Ferry I believe. Lying & cheating in secret behind his back was the last straw for Angie, Johnnie's wife, who prolly gave Marr an ultimatum HIM or ME!!!!
& So Johnny left.
Morrissey wanted him back only if he really wanted to come back & he didn't. ☹️
@@MrDLOC11 This is why I don't support the lgbt and many others don't either for they lie too much like being gay is so good and natural! gay love is hard and damn near impossible! If you and your first love manage to jump every hurdle tossed your way, God bless you. My first love approached me when we were very young. When his family saw we were falling in love, they pulled out every stop to separate us! Hasn't been the same since with nobody else!
@@MrDLOC11 So I know how Morrissey felt. He was with Johnny before he met this woman and got married. But I can't blame Johnny either, for gay relationships are terribly unstable. He felt his best bet was to stay with the woman.
Bryan Ferry's a gay??? 😮
Fantastic my amigos.....
1. Your arsenal, 2. Bona drag, 3. Viva hate, 4. Vauxhall.
Vin Reilly is an extremely talented guitarist. I have no doubt his contribution was far under-credited.
Steven looks like he's squirming while explaining his version of events.
+Rebel Absurdity Or it could be the exact opposite. Vini being calm and without any need for dramatics because he has nothing to hide, whilst Steven is overly dramatic to compensate for something. I believe Vini.
Vini himself was quoted as saying (right before Viva's release) that he did fuck all and they would have been better off just hiring a session musician. Strange to me that his tune has changed.
A quote from the interview "15 minutes with Vini Reilly" by Julie Hamill:
"
V: I want to talk about Stephen Street about whom I’ve said wrong things in the past; this is not an excuse, this is fact, I have suffered from what they call ‘displaced anger’ and this is where you’re very angry with yourself and you don’t understand, you just shout at people you really care about. Stephen Street, I’ve got to tell you, you will never find a nicer man. He is one of the nicest people I’ve ever met in my life. Endless patience, his skills are astonishing, his ability to hear… all those skills, a fabulous result. I loved the guy."
Vini had nothing to prove, just wanted to play guitar came up with an amazing album musically...everything else is bollocks Steven Street is a producer nothing more nothing less...
Vini Reilly aka Shaggy from Scooby Doo
@James RichardsObviously you know nothing about Vini Reilly. He's a brilliant and original musician in his own right. He performed under the name "The Durutti Column". Brian Eno described his album LC as his favourite piece of music and John Frusciante described him as the greatest guitarist in the world. In 2010 he had a stroke affecting his musical ability. He has worked with dozens of artists and is reverred by many artists. It's easy to mock when you're a talentless, ignorant twat.
@@AnthonyMonaghan well said
@@AnthonyMonaghan well, to be fair, the negativity, I'm fairly certain, was born of his ridiculous claims. He wrote all the songs but didn't want credit? Please. Street, whatever you think of him, can offer specific commentary on what inspired him, what he was aiming for with a particular musical idea. Reilly sat quietly for two decades and then turned 'round and went, "Viva Hate? Oh, I wrote that." It's clearly bullshit.
Edit: or maybe he's telling the truth. Street, in my opinion, seems far more believable. Any audio-geeks out there? Street claims the strings on "Angel, Angel" are an actual string section; Reilly that he played them on a synth. Not that that would automatically prove his other claims, but it would do a bit. Anyone know how it could be determined for sure? They sound like strings to me, I have to say. My opinion is Vin Reilly is a crazy person. But what do I know?
😂😂🤣😅😭
On a more positive note,... who knew Long John Silver's first mate had a second life as the Mozz's biographer.
I never figured out why as a diehard Smiths fan for many many years, I never got into his solo work
I love the Smiths but, just like you, I can't listen to his solo stuff. Mostly, Johnny M's guitar is mostly why I loved the Smiths
Maybe because they are very different but both fantastic. :)
+tom dp It's been a long haul for me as well. After the Smiths broke up, yes I bought Viva Hate, but that would end up being the first and last album I actually purchased. Not that it was bad, but it did not offer me the same experience I got from the Smiths. Regardless, now as I've gotten older, I've started to gradually warm up more to Morrissey's stuff. There are some bloody brilliant gems to be found within the many albums if you have the patience to peruse them and search.
Why does it feel like Street (the producer) is lying about who wrote Viva Hate? Giving all the cues.
He seems a bit too tenacious in trying to convince us of his writing on VH. Vini Reilly was paid £800 for working on that massive album. Wonder how much Moz got for it? Add a few more 0000s!
I feel like the other guy was lying.
I don't know the answer. My gut says that if the music was great, then a great musician wrote/played the music. I.e. Vini is great and imaginative. Street is workmanly. I'm going with Vini.
2ndly: Who is it that had reason to play-down Vini's role? Morrissey did. If he let Vini's name be all over the album credits, people would know it was a Vini album with Morissey just singing over it.
On Street's behalf, Vini does seem a bit odd. So I don't know what kind of memory / ego problems he may have. People in comments saying that Street is suspiciously defensive. Well, if someone makes claims to work that you yourself have done, you'd be pissed off too.
Also, pro-Street: Vini says he told Street in the studio that he doesn't want credit on the album? Pretty much NO ONE ever says that. I don't quite believe it. Unless Vini got a big fee just to be there.
What a weird thing. Morrissey is to blame.
Steven Street pretty much loves himself
No he doesn't. He's a talented, straight-talking guy with an impeccable track-record who deserves a shitload of credit in launching Mozzer's solo career and co-writing his best solo LP.
That's what I was thinking. Look at his body language. Constant chin in the air.
what is the name of the song at the beginning of the video ???
Demon Summer - "Founder"
I believe Vinny Reilly.
I dont, he doesnt either, since then he is not that sure
It's almost like Johnny Marr read this and said "F()ck that, I'm going to put together some quality solo material just to remind people that I kick ass." No disrespect to Morrissey, but he was 20 times better when he collaborated with Marr.
Michael Walsh Indeed, but with no disrespect to Johnny Marr he was a 100 times better when he collaborated with Morrissey.
gary09 lane na............... bona drag was as good as anything............... mind we were told by the nme..........not to like morrisy......... and he was nothing without mar
+mark stokes and Marr is nothing without Morrissey.
It was a marriage of sublime songwriting. The best there has been arguably since Lennon/McCartney. They have taken their talents forward since the split sometimes delivering great stuff. But we all know deep down that the sum of the two was magical and it won't happen again which is tragic.
Michael Walsh But Johnny didn't really write anything in the late 80's since he became a guitar player for hire with the Pretenders, Talking Heads and The The. Okay, Bryan Ferry used "money changes everything," he wrote "Gravitate to Me" on The The's mind bomb album and his collaboration with Electronic.
1:32:59 Maladjusted, and the tour that ensued, was the very thing that broke my fandom of Moz (for a while). Saw him in Boston for this record, and it was one of the most disappointingly brief sets I've ever seen. I lost faith that night for a very long time. I don't even remember that record, but I do remember struggling to like it when it was released.
"as it were"….thank you for sharing
Viva Hate is one of the greatest albums of all time
Vauxhall and I is Morrissey's masterpiece ❤️